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ellsy82
02-16-2011, 10:41 AM
Anyone have a complete list of all the RBs, WRs, CBs, and Ss that have return capabilities?

rawdawg
02-16-2011, 11:08 AM
Here's a list. I don't know how good.

http://www.optimumscouting.com/scout-s-notes/articles/2011-nfl-draft-rankings-top-kick-returners.html

cajuncorey
02-16-2011, 11:10 AM
Patrick peterson

signed,
Les Miles

ellsy82
02-16-2011, 11:33 AM
Good stuff. Here's what I've got so far. Feel free to add comments about why these guys should or shouldn't be on this list.

1. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
2. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
3. Quinton Carter, FS, Oklahoma
4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma St
5. Jerrell Jernigan, WR, Troy
6. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
7. Quizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon St
8. Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
9. Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
10. Jeremy Kerley, WR, TCU
11. Dwayne Harris, WR, East Carolina
12. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC
13. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky
14. Joe Lefeged, SS, Rutgers
15. Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
16. Marcus Gilchrist, CB, Clemson
17. Shiloh Keo, SS, Idaho
18. Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
19. Justin Rogers, CB, Richmond
20. Vance Cuff, CB, Georgia
21. Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
22. Jock Sanders, WR, Western Virginia
23. Shakey Smithson, WR, Utah
24. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, WR, Iowa
25. Phillip Livas, WR, Louisiana Tech

All rated off projected draft position, not returning prowess.

J-Mike88
02-24-2011, 01:21 PM
Good stuff. Here's what I've got so far. Feel free to add comments about why these guys should or shouldn't be on this list.

1. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
2. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
3. Quinton Carter, FS, Oklahoma
4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma St
5. Jerrell Jernigan, WR, Troy
6. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
7. Quizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon St
8. Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
9. Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
10. Jeremy Kerley, WR, TCU
11. Dwayne Harris, WR, East Carolina
12. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC
13. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky
14. Joe Lefeged, SS, Rutgers
15. Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
16. Marcus Gilchrist, CB, Clemson
17. Shiloh Keo, SS, Idaho
18. Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
19. Justin Rogers, CB, Richmond
20. Vance Cuff, CB, Georgia
21. Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
22. Jock Sanders, WR, Western Virginia
23. Shakey Smithson, WR, Utah
24. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, WR, Iowa
25. Phillip Livas, WR, Louisiana Tech

All rated off projected draft position, not returning prowess.
Solid thread... I was going to post the same thread because this is weakness #1 for the Packers, and I don't know a lot of these players.
I know guys like Josh Cribbs can come from anywhere.

My Packers need a guy they can get who can either be a #5 WR for now and an instant stud at KR/PR, or a 3rd RB who can double as stud return guy. Ideally, a WR. I guess a CB to replace the piece of schit Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood, but we don't draft CBs very well.

J-Mike88
02-24-2011, 01:34 PM
Well let me help out here, starting at the bottom of your list with Philip Livas.
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J-Mike88
02-24-2011, 01:48 PM
Shaky Smithson.
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Jock Sanders... too small?
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Aldrick Robinson, that's the best video SMU athletics could give us?
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Edmond Gates, can't see KR-specific clips.
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Dwayne Harris
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J-Mike88
02-24-2011, 02:14 PM
How good can Randall Cobb be for 3 years focusing on being a return specialist?

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REDSKINSWARRIOR82
02-24-2011, 07:58 PM
Torrey Smith is pretty good at returning kicks. Broke Devin Hester's acc records.5100 yards and 3 TD career yards.

DiG
04-20-2011, 08:45 AM
Torrey Smith is pretty good at returning kicks. Broke Devin Hester's acc records.5100 yards and 3 TD career yards.

and md didnt even let him return much his junior year because they wanted him to be full time wr. most of those yards came freshman and sophomore year.

Nebula
04-20-2011, 01:57 PM
I'm stunned nobody's mentioned Taiwan Jones. I think he has immense potential at excelling on returns

PossibleCabbage
04-20-2011, 02:04 PM
Good stuff. Here's what I've got so far. Feel free to add comments about why these guys should or shouldn't be on this list.

1. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
2. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
3. Quinton Carter, FS, Oklahoma
4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma St
5. Jerrell Jernigan, WR, Troy
6. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
7. Quizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon St
8. Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
9. Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
10. Jeremy Kerley, WR, TCU
11. Dwayne Harris, WR, East Carolina
12. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC
13. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky
14. Joe Lefeged, SS, Rutgers
15. Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
16. Marcus Gilchrist, CB, Clemson
17. Shiloh Keo, SS, Idaho
18. Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
19. Justin Rogers, CB, Richmond
20. Vance Cuff, CB, Georgia
21. Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
22. Jock Sanders, WR, Western Virginia
23. Shakey Smithson, WR, Utah
24. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, WR, Iowa
25. Phillip Livas, WR, Louisiana Tech

All rated off projected draft position, not returning prowess.

Why is Quizz on your list? I'm an Oregon State fan and I don't think I've ever seen him return a punt or a kick, he was too busy carrying the ball 250 times a year to play special teams. Whether he can do it or not, I have no idea... but we have nothing to go on to conclude that he does. Just because a guy has the physical tools to be a good returner doesn't mean he can actually do it. In TC last year Green Bay had designs on Sam Shields being the returner, since he's crazy fast... but he couldn't actually catch the ball underhanded. Good thing he could cover instead.

J-Mike88
04-21-2011, 07:00 AM
I'm stunned nobody's mentioned Taiwan Jones. I think he has immense potential at excelling on returns
Has he done it though?

ellsy82
04-21-2011, 11:26 AM
Why is Quizz on your list? I'm an Oregon State fan and I don't think I've ever seen him return a punt or a kick, he was too busy carrying the ball 250 times a year to play special teams. Whether he can do it or not, I have no idea... but we have nothing to go on to conclude that he does. Just because a guy has the physical tools to be a good returner doesn't mean he can actually do it. In TC last year Green Bay had designs on Sam Shields being the returner, since he's crazy fast... but he couldn't actually catch the ball underhanded. Good thing he could cover instead.

I guess its the speed and size combo. Without the ability to return kicks, who exactly is going to draft him before day 3? Maybe I'm off base here.

Wrathman
04-21-2011, 12:46 PM
Has he done it though?

Yes he has.

jayceheathman
04-23-2011, 03:35 AM
Good stuff. Here's what I've got so far. Feel free to add comments about why these guys should or shouldn't be on this list.

1. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
2. Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
3. Quinton Carter, FS, Oklahoma
4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma St
5. Jerrell Jernigan, WR, Troy
6. Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
7. Quizz Rodgers, RB, Oregon St
8. Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
9. Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
10. Jeremy Kerley, WR, TCU
11. Dwayne Harris, WR, East Carolina
12. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC
13. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky
14. Joe Lefeged, SS, Rutgers
15. Noel Devine, RB, West Virginia
16. Marcus Gilchrist, CB, Clemson
17. Shiloh Keo, SS, Idaho
18. Edmund Gates, WR, Abilene Christian
19. Justin Rogers, CB, Richmond
20. Vance Cuff, CB, Georgia
21. Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
22. Jock Sanders, WR, Western Virginia
23. Shakey Smithson, WR, Utah
24. Derrell Johnson-Koulianos, WR, Iowa
25. Phillip Livas, WR, Louisiana Tech

All rated off projected draft position, not returning prowess.

I would add DeMarcus Van Dyke to that list. The guy ran a 4.28 at the combine this year.

ellsy82
04-23-2011, 09:39 AM
I would add DeMarcus Van Dyke to that list. The guy ran a 4.28 at the combine this year.

Straight line speed doesn't mean everything. Its vision and change of direction that stands out to me. Think Joe Burnett that the Steelers drafted in a 5th a couple years ago. prime example of a great college return guy, horrible pro return guy.

You gotta have that ability to adapt...Joe didn't. Hense, he failed. Quizz Rogers? We'll see, I've got an eye on him.