Official Pro Day Thread

[batsandgats]

Durham does have alot of injuries he has never made it though a full season healthy and was redshirted all of last year bc on a inj. He also has only produced one year. I watched him play in high school and im cheering for him, but is a 6th r 7th round draft pick. Lots of people here want the falcons to draft him and take over Brian Finneran's role.
didnt he pretty much play all of last year? I know he missed Idaho St, but Im sure if that were a competitive team he wouldve played. I think he was recovering from a big hit/bruised lung from a UF player, he was still on the light side coming into the year, I think 203 and used too much as a going across the middle guy. His game should be more vertical, I mean hes not afraid to go across the middle, and it shouldn't be a problem now that he is 217 but he is better utilized a different way.

And why would Falcons fans want them, didnt they just draft Kerry Meier or that role? He had a knee injury but is coming back just as strong. I swear some fans look at draft prospects like they are new toys, always wanting to replace someone on the roster if he hasn't contributed or developed right away. Finnernan/Meier are the possession receiver types that just get the tough catches in traffic. Durham can do that, but his skillset is better for like a number 2 role, more stretching the field, which his 4.4 speed shows, not to mention he averaged 20 yards per catch in the SEC.

[Babylon]

didnt he pretty much play all of last year? I know he missed Idaho St, but Im sure if that were a competitive team he wouldve played. I think he was recovering from a big hit/bruised lung from a UF player, he was still on the light side coming into the year, I think 203 and used too much as a going across the middle guy. His game should be more vertical, I mean hes not afraid to go across the middle, and it shouldn't be a problem now that he is 217 but he is better utilized a different way.

And why would Falcons fans want them, didnt they just draft Kerry Meier or that role? He had a knee injury but is coming back just as strong. I swear some fans look at draft prospects like they are new toys, always wanting to replace someone on the roster if he hasn't contributed or developed right away. Finnernan/Meier are the possession receiver types that just get the tough catches in traffic. Durham can do that, but his skillset is better for like a number 2 role, more stretching the field, which his 4.4 speed shows, not to mention he averaged 20 yards per catch in the SEC.

He doesnt look like a 4.4 guy on film and i dont think he's all that quick off the line and in his cuts. Riley Cooper might be a good comparison but dont think Durham is near as good as Coop.

[bigbluedefense]

So far the only thing out is 27 reps on the bench. I'll update this post as I hear more.

Unofficial 4.65 40. Weighed in at 242 with very little body fat.

For those interested:
Jake Vermiglio - 323#, 28.5" vert, 23 bench,
Jarvis Williams - 6'4", 213#, 33" vert, 10' broad, 7 bench

From Derek Medlin:
Nate's 40 time is, of course, unofficial. In his two runs I saw numbers anywhere from 4.62 to 4.74 so I would assume he's somewhere in that 4.65 to 4.7 range. Nate has to be pleased with that. He weighed in at 242, had a 33.5" vertical, 8'11" broad jump and did 27 reps of 225 on the bench press (tied with Mageo for most reps on the team).

Nice. That 40 is what I needed to see. He's a guy I offiicially want.

[ncst8fan83]

Nice. That 40 is what I needed to see. He's a guy I offiicially want.

That was run on grass and in cleats by the way. Thought that should be mentioned. They do NCSU's pro day on the practice fields, which has no track around it.

[Hines]

Nate Irving will hopefully be a Steeler.

[batsandgats]

He doesnt look like a 4.4 guy on film and i dont think he's all that quick off the line and in his cuts. Riley Cooper might be a good comparison but dont think Durham is near as good as Coop.

looks like he has 4.4 speed to me, he gets separation easy against SEC defenders, but pretty much every time he has to slow down or practically stop and adjust. There was only one play on that highlight where he didn't have to slow down and got caught, it was over 50 yards for the play, 4.4 in the 40 means exactly that, 40 yards in 4.4 seconds. Most taller guys don't look quick off the line, they are long striders. He has to work on his route running but he has more potential than Cooper if he can manage to stay healthy. His hands are better imo and I think can adjust to the pro game a lil faster coming from Georgia's pro style system rather than what Urban Meyer was running at UF.

[SolidGold]

Kellen Moore's backup Mike Coughlin supposedly opened alot of eyes at Boise St.'s proday and generated alot of buzz - Perhaps he will be the next Matt Cassel. He has real good size at 6'4 220lbs:

http://www.broncosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9900&ATCLID=520502

[Babylon]

looks like he has 4.4 speed to me, he gets separation easy against SEC defenders, but pretty much every time he has to slow down or practically stop and adjust. There was only one play on that highlight where he didn't have to slow down and got caught, it was over 50 yards for the play, 4.4 in the 40 means exactly that, 40 yards in 4.4 seconds. Most taller guys don't look quick off the line, they are long striders. He has to work on his route running but he has more potential than Cooper if he can manage to stay healthy. His hands are better imo and I think can adjust to the pro game a lil faster coming from Georgia's pro style system rather than what Urban Meyer was running at UF.

To me he looks a little slow out of his cuts and at the NFL level that will not get him open much. I'm all for the guy doing well as i like the Bulldogs but let's just say i'm a little skeptical. I dont see him in the same class as Cooper as far as going after the football.

[Fico]

Texas Pro Day:

WR John Chiles with a 39.5 vert and 40 times of 4.46 and 4.42

CB Chykie Brown with 4.47 and 4.45 40s

CB Aaron Williams ran a 4.36 40

TE Greg Smith with a 4.7 40 and 39.5-inch vert.

[GoRavens]

Holy piss Aaron Williams is fast. #3 CB for sure.
I also like John Chiles, he's got dope elusiveness

[Fico]

Texas Pro Day:

WR John Chiles with a 39.5 vert and 40 times of 4.46 and 4.42

CB Chykie Brown with 4.47 and 4.45 40s

CB Aaron Williams ran a 4.36 40

TE Greg Smith with a 4.7 40 and 39.5-inch vert.

These are twitter updates by the way.

Acho (6-1 ¾, 259 pounds) stood on everything at the combine.

[bigbluedefense]

I'm not buying it Aaron Williams. You looked stiff and slow on your tape and at the combine.

The eye in the sky doesn't lie. I like him, but he's not my #3 CB. Brandon Harris is.

[Fico]

CB Curtis Brown with a 4.40 40

Timing quick today.

[Fico]

AW from Gil Brandt at Texas Pro Day:

Williams (6-0 1/8, 201) ran 4.44 in the 40. I'd say that is more accurate.

More from Brant:

Acho (6-1 ¾, 259 pounds) stood on everything at the combine.

Chykie Brown (5-11 5/8, 191) ran 4.40 and 4.37 seconds in the 40, had a 39-inch vertical, and stood on everything else from the combine.

Curtis Brown (5-11 5/8, 183) ran 4.40 in the 40.

G Mike Huey (6-4, 304) ran 5.16 and 5.18 40s, to go with a 33 ½-inch vertical and 9-5 broad.

TE Greg Smith (6-4 1/8, 245) ran 4.78 and 4.83 40s and had a 39-inch vertical.

link: http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/03/29/steelers-look-to-austin-for-defensive-help/?module=HP_spotlight

[FuzzyGopher]

University of Washington's pro day will be on espn3.com starting at 2pm et for anyone interested in watching.

[Iamcanadian]

According to Lombardi on NFL Network, pro scouts and GM's rate Texas's track as unbelievably fast and never use their pro day times as reliable.
Texas players will have to stand on their Combine times.

[Babylon]

University of Washington's pro day will be on espn3.com starting at 2pm et for anyone interested in watching.

Thank God they have an indoor facility the weather sucks around here.

About an hour in before the first referance to Locker as a safety in the NFL. At least it wasnt as an H-back. Pardon me while i go hurl.

Locker wont run the 40. Really no need to. Mason Foster's 40 if under 4.7 i think could make him some money.

Radio guys speculate how Locker could be a huge threat in the Wildcat while he learns the system in his first year for an NFL team.


5.0 for Mason Foster in the 40, not buying that time since he was a 4.75 at the combine, hopefully he'll better that.

4.67 for Foster's second 40, whew. That is more realistic for the way he plays.

Jake's dad Scott is a cool guy. Works as a drywaller so you arent getting some kid who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Lunch pail types i love.

[Fico]

According to Lombardi on NFL Network, pro scouts and GM's rate Texas's track as unbelievably fast and never use their pro day times as reliable.
Texas players will have to stand on their Combine times.

Lombardi is a tool. As is Casserly.

The track my be faster than Indy, but it is not considered a "fast" track. Texas does not have a history of guys blowing their combine times out of the water.

Sure they ran a bit faster but that is to be expected at any Pro Day. It is a familiar, friendly environment that is conducive to helping performance numbers. If teams wanted to discredit their pro day times they wouldn't have been there timing them in first place.

This is all supplemental information anyway. The real due diligence is done on the game tape the players put up over their careers.

[SolidGold]

Locker had a good pro day workout - went 40-42

Also heard Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller talking him up saying his major issue was his footwork which is a correctable flaw. Both seemed to think his performance really helped and were talking him up to the Redskins at 10.

[TailbackU]

Here were the official results provided by the USC Sports Information office:

40 times (first time listed is best electronic time, second number is best hand-held time.

David Ausberry - 4.46/4.50
Allen Bradford - 4.65/4.54
Jurrell Casey - 5.04/5.04
Omari Crittendon- 4.74/4.69
CJ Gable - 4.61/4.59
Zack Heberer - 5.09/5.10
Ronald Johnson. - 4.49/4.49
Butch Lewis - 5.12/5.09
Michael Morgan - 4.47/4.49
Mitch Mustain - 4.90.4.93
Derek Simmons -5.17/5.19
Malcolm Smith - 4.51/4.45
Tyron Smith - 5.00/4.93

Bench press, 225 lbs, # of reps

Ausberry - 23
Heberer - 38
Lewis - 31
T. Smith -31
Johnson -20
M. Smith - 28
Morgan - 28
Simmons - 29
Mustain - 18
Gable - 22

Unofficial 20-yard shuttle times

Morgan. -4.45
M. Smith - 4.62
Wright - 4.32
Gable - 4.67
Johnson -4.29

Unofficial 60-yard shuttle times

Gable - 12.27
Johnson -11.30
Wright - 11.60
M. Smith - 11.93
Bradford - 11.70
Morgan. - 12.40 (with a slip)
http://wearesc.com/news/story.php?article=4220 and also http://usctrojans.cstv.com/blog/2011/03/usc-pro-day-40-times.html and http://usctrojans.cstv.com/blog/2011/03/usc-pro-day-bench-press.html

Casey and Ronald Johnson ran about the same times as at the combine and Bradford's electronic time was a little slower. Ausberry, Smith and Morgan's times were really good (and appear to be accurate since the 3 combine participants' times were about the same or slower than at the combine). With that said Ausberry and Morgan are not very good football players and are therefore a real long shot to get drafted. Malcolm Smith on the other hand may have boosted his stock a bit. He actually made some plays when he was healthy.

[Babylon]

Locker had a good pro day workout - went 40-42

Also heard Pat Kirwan and Jim Miller talking him up saying his major issue was his footwork which is a correctable flaw. Both seemed to think his performance really helped and were talking him up to the Redskins at 10.

Sarkisian sort of leaked it out that there are two teams that are very interested and from what i can piece together it's Tennessee and Jacksonville. That may be nothing more than an opinion so take it for what it's worth.

I thought the throwing session went well. A couple of the medium range throws the receviers had to extend to make the catch but overall i think Locker answered any question there may be about footwork and accuracy. Ironically the two balls that receivers didnt catch were nice balls in the 60 yd range that they just couldnt get to.

[asdf1223]

Shareece Wright may be badly injured on his pro day
Shareece Wright/CB/USC was injured @pro-day. His foot was caught during one of the drills and Wright said he heard something go "pop"
Awful. I hope the kid recovers.

[Babylon]

^
hope Wright is ok he's a heck of a competitior.

Most everyone was impressed with Locker's pro day, scripted as it was. Almost everyone except Charley Casserly and Mike Lombardi who are steadfast that Locker is nothing more than a 3rd or 4th round pick. I'm having a hard time understanding their claims that Gabbert is a top 5 pick and Locker somehow a bum, maybe it's me but put these guys out to pasture, the sooner the better.

[D-Unit]

Casey and Ronald Johnson ran about the same times as at the combine and Bradford's electronic time was a little slower. Ausberry, Smith and Morgan's times were really good (and appear to be accurate since the 3 combine participants' times were about the same or slower than at the combine). With that said Ausberry and Morgan are not very good football players and are therefore a real long shot to get drafted. Malcolm Smith on the other hand may have boosted his stock a bit. He actually made some plays when he was healthy.
Thanks for sharing that!

Tyron Smith to the Cowboys. Lock and load.

[TailbackU]

From USC Athletic department twitter:

After initial medical evaluation, no apparent ligament damage to Shareece Wright's left knee. Appears to be pulled hamstring.

Hopefully that's all it is.

[Iamcanadian]

^
hope Wright is ok he's a heck of a competitior.

Most everyone was impressed with Locker's pro day, scripted as it was. Almost everyone except Charley Casserly and Mike Lombardi who are steadfast that Locker is nothing more than a 3rd or 4th round pick. I'm having a hard time understanding their claims that Gabbert is a top 5 pick and Locker somehow a bum, maybe it's me but put these guys out to pasture, the sooner the better.

Your right, they did scouting and decision making on the draft for pro teams, for years, for real, so their opinion isn't worth much, oh yeah, they check out their claims with their friends around the league who are GM's and pro scouts, but what does that matter.
If you want to say they aren't perfect, well then, I agree with you, but to say their opinions don't count seems foolish to me.

It is clear to me that Locker is dropping, he isn't accurate, pure and simple, and that is an extremely hard area to improve at after you are drafted. They questioned his leadership abilities, and why, say against Nebraska, a 1st round QB prospect would only complete his 1st pass in the 3rd quarter.
Of course as with Tebow last year, it just takes one decision maker to prove everybody wrong.

[TailbackU]

Here's some photos from USC's Pro Day: http://wearesc.com/extras/gallery.php?id=63

Tyron Smith looks so much bigger than when he was at SC.

[Babylon]

Your right, they did scouting and decision making on the draft for pro teams, for years, for real, so their opinion isn't worth much, oh yeah, they check out their claims with their friends around the league who are GM's and pro scouts, but what does that matter.
If you want to say they aren't perfect, well then, I agree with you, but to say their opinions don't count seems foolish to me.

It is clear to me that Locker is dropping, he isn't accurate, pure and simple, and that is an extremely hard area to improve at after you are drafted. They questioned his leadership abilities, and why, say against Nebraska, a 1st round QB prospect would only complete his 1st pass in the 3rd quarter.
Of course as with Tebow last year, it just takes one decision maker to prove everybody wrong.

Well Casserly doesnt have Locker or Newton going in the first round so yeah i'm saying he doesnt know what he's talking about.

As for Locker's accuracy problems he has improved in that dept. from the Senior Bowl to the combine to his pro day. I guess if you think someone can never improve in that area then i guess there is no sense even bothering with the whole process.

[jnew76]

Well Casserly doesnt have Locker or Newton going in the first round so yeah i'm saying he doesnt know what he's talking about.

As for Locker's accuracy problems he has improved in that dept. from the Senior Bowl to the combine to his pro day. I guess if you think someone can never improve in that area then i guess there is no sense even bothering with the whole process.

I agree with you, I have seen improvement in his accuracy this offseason... It does concern me that only one head coach, Carroll, was at the workout. With someone with so many questions to answer, I would have thought more would have attended.

[Master Exploder]

I have to admit, I am one of those guys that never thought Jake Locker should be a 1st round pick... but I was thoroughly impressed with his pro-day. He threw very well and looked great doing it. I wish he would've thrown about 10 more passes though.

[FUNBUNCHER]

I agree with you, I have seen improvement in his accuracy this offseason... It does concern me that only one head coach, Carroll, was at the workout. With someone with so many questions to answer, I would have thought more would have attended.


Shanahan was there 'in spirit'.

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Todd McShay about Locker's pro day "it was against air, it was scripted." He is a retodd

[M.O.T.H.]

USC offensive tackle Tyron Smith strengthened his draft status, reinforcing that he's the top offensive tackle prospect by running a 4.96 in the 40-yard dash during his pro pay workout Wednesday and bench pressing 225 pounds 31 times, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.

Smith also excelled in positional drills.


Garrett was in attendance and Smith will meet with Dallas on Monday. Get Em'.

edit...already posted, but worth repeating.

[D-Unit]

Garrett was in attendance and Smith will meet with Dallas on Monday. Get Em'.

edit...already posted, but worth repeating.
Heard Ciskowski was there too. This is money in the bank. Can't wait.

[Babylon]

Todd McShay about Locker's pro day "it was against air, it was scripted." He is a retodd

Might as well just get rid of pro days. When guys that people like do well then it's "that should solidify them going early" then when it's guys that people dont care for it's "scripted and throwing against air". To be fair i think that McShay had Jake as his #2 QB but who knows if he's flip flopped on that.

It was what it was, a workout indoors with a lot of simple throws involved. Where it's relevant in Locker's case is some of those throws he was struggling with at the Senior Bowl, the fact that he's gotten better from then to the combine to the pro day i think is a factor.

[D-Unit]

Might as well just get rid of pro days. When guys that people like do well then it's "that should solidify them going early" then when it's guys that people dont care for it's "scripted and throwing against air". To be fair i think that McShay had Jake as his #2 QB but who knows if he's flip flopped on that.

It was what it was, a workout indoors with a lot of simple throws involved. Where it's relevant in Locker's case is some of those throws he was struggling with at the Senior Bowl, the fact that he's gotten better from then to the combine to the pro day i think is a factor.
How is Locker's accuracy on the deep ball?

[Babylon]

How is Locker's accuracy on the deep ball?

That and throwing on the run was never an issue. He overthrew a couple yesterday but they were nice 60 yarders just out of the reach of his receivers. If i were making excuses i'd say pro guys would have caught up to those balls but i wont make excuses.

[D-Unit]

That and throwing on the run was never an issue. He overthrew a couple yesterday but they were nice 60 yarders just out of the reach of his receivers. If i were making excuses i'd say pro guys would have caught up to those balls but i wont make excuses.
Honest question. Do you think Locker has improved dramatically since the season ended?

[Babylon]

Honest question. Do you think Locker has improved dramatically since the season ended?

Taking off my homer glasses i'd have to say yes and temper that by saying the combine and pro day arent game conditions. The knock at the senior bowl was he couldnt throw strikes consistantly. At the combine i thought he was much better and yesterday even though it was friendly conditions he was near perfect.

To me it looks like the earliest he might go is 8th to the Titans and the lowest 16th to the Jags.

[D-Unit]

Taking off my homer glasses i'd have to say yes and temper that by saying the combine and pro day arent game conditions. The knock at the senior bowl was he couldnt throw strikes consistantly. At the combine i thought he was much better and yesterday even though it was friendly conditions he was near perfect.

To me it looks like the earliest he might go is 8th to the Titans and the lowest 16th to the Jags.
I would agree that he's made progress... which makes me think Sarkisian really isn't as good a QB coach as hyped up to be. Because really, almost every supporter of him returning to school made that a main focal point for him making the right decision... that "another year under Sarkisian would do wonders for him"... when in actuality, that really wasn't the case as his disappointing season is undebatable. This is really more a knock on Sark than it is Locker.

[Iamcanadian]

There was a lot of talk on NFL Network that he wasn't as accurate as his completion % indicated. They seriously questioned his placement of the ball, there is more to passing than just having a uncovered WR catch a ball. At the next level, a QB has to be able to put the ball in specific places to get a real completion, and as I said, this is where they are questioning Locker's accuracy.
They also questioned why Locker threw mostly short and intermediate balls and shied away from the deep throws???
Almost to a man including Mora and another former NFL HC, said that if you are inaccurate in college, your chances of improving that skill significantly at the next level is extremely difficult.

[Babylon]

There was a lot of talk on NFL Network that he wasn't as accurate as his completion % indicated. They seriously questioned his placement of the ball, there is more to passing than just having a uncovered WR catch a ball. At the next level, a QB has to be able to put the ball in specific places to get a real completion, and as I said, this is where they are questioning Locker's accuracy.
They also questioned why Locker threw mostly short and intermediate balls and shied away from the deep throws???
Almost to a man including Mora and another former NFL HC, said that if you are inaccurate in college, your chances of improving that skill significantly at the next level is extremely difficult.

Sounds like you didnt watch the workout because i thought his ball placement was excellant. There were probably two balls that the receiver had to lay out for and ironically the two that hit the ground i thought were well thrown 60 yard passes that pro wrs would have caught. In total he was very accurate albeit with a lot of safe passes.

The thing with accuracy is first off you have to ask yourself why someone is inaccurate. If someone has time to throw and flat misses open receivers that is differant than someone with not a lot of time trying to throw to mediocre WRs. As i've pointed out before, Matt Stafford was a 55% passer before AJ Green showed up and Josh Freeman's completion % dropped quite a bit after Jordy Nelson left.

If you want to believe someone can never become more accurate with hard work then how did someone like Brett Favre ever make it from a 55% college passer to a 1st ballot HOFer.

As for NFLN they for the most part dont care for Locker or just parrot what Casserly and Lombardi say. I noticed Mayock (who has Locker as his #2 QB) wasnt at the pro day yesterday for Locker, he probably couldnt stand the thought of sitting next to him on the long plane ride to Seattle.

[GoRavens]

I'd take Locker over Mallett and Dalton.
probably something like;
1) Cam Newton-1st-Bengals
2) Blaine Gabbert-1st-Titans
3) Jake Locker-2nd-Cardinals
4) Colin Kaepernick-2nd-Redskins
5) Ryan Mallett-2nd-Vikings
6) Christian Ponder-2nd-49ers
7) Andy Dalton-3rd-Panthers
8) Ricky Stanzi-4th-Dolphins
9) Greg McElroy-6th-Ravens
10) Pat Devlin-6th-Bills

[Babylon]

Heard Quinn was in the high 4.5s at his pro day. Wow. Him and Bowers are like two ships passing in the night going in opposite directions.

[gambler]

The guy breaks a lot of tackles. You can see the acceleration, too. I'm a bit intrigued.

AEUT16_0wiM

Skip the first 1:15 and mute it.



Gambler , at 07:15 on 04/04/11, says:

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Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=703969#ixzz1IyfD5otm

[wicket]

When is Notre Dame's Pro Day so I can know how well Darrin Walls does?

Armando Allen
Vertical: 31.5”
Broad Jump: 10’
Bench Press: N/A
40-Yard dash: 4.58/4.59
Pro Agility: 4.12/4.15
3-Cone Drill: 7.10
60-Yard Shuttle:11.45/11.57

Robert Hughes
Vertical: 32”
Broad Jump: 9’4”
Bench Press: 26
40-Yard Dash: 4.89/4.89
Pro Agility: 4.66/4.69
3-Cone Drill: 7.26
60-Yard Shuttle: 12.14/12.13

Duval Kamara
Vertical: 32.5”
Broad Jump: 10’1”
Bench Press: 11
40-Yard Dash: 4.84/4.75
Pro Agility: 4.49/4.48
3-Cone Drill: 7.41
60-Yard Shuttle: 11.78/11.70

Kerry Neal
Vertical: 27.5”
Broad Jump: 9’3”
Bench Press: 24
40-Yard Dash: 5.17/5.15
Pro Agility: 4.60/4.54
3-Cone Drill: 7.43
60-Yard Shuttle: 12.41/-

Kyle Rudolph
Vertical: 34.5”
Broad Jump: 9’5”
Bench Press: 19
40-Yard Dash: 4.78/4.80
Pro Agility: 4.37/4.37
3-Cone Drill: 7.24
60-Yard Shuttle: 12.30/12.23

Brian Smith
Vertical: 30.5”
Broad Jump: 9’5”
Bench Press: 15
40-Yard Dash: 4.72/4.82
Pro Agility: 4.31/4.30
3-Cone Drill: 7.18
60-Yard Shuttle: 11.89/11.84

Chris Stewart
Vertical: 28”
Broad Jump: 7’8”
Bench Press: 24
40-Yard Dash: 5.57/5.58
Pro Agility: 4.92/4.90
3-Cone Drill 7.69
60-Yard Shuttle: -/-

Darrin Walls
Vertical: 28.5”
Broad Jump: 10’2”
Bench Press: 15
40-Yard Dash: 4.39/4.42
Pro Agility: 4.18/4.15
3-Cone Drill: 6.88
60-Yard Shuttle: 10.85/10.82

Ian Williams
Vertical: N/A
Broad Jump: N/A
Bench Press: N/A
40-Yard Dash: 5.10/5.20
Pro Agility: N/A
3-Cone Drill: 7.75
60-Yard Shuttle: N/A
...

good 40s for walls but a shocking vertical. Rudolph is clearly not fully back, he is way quicker than that

[asdf1223]

Does Armando Allen have any shot of being drafted?

[JhawkFitness]

Oh Ballard can run for sure. He can really move and has great feet. He just isn't all that great at the point of attack.

Get someone to coach him up and let him loose. He was moved around a lot along the line at Iowa. Get him a set position and his numbers will jump. His strongest asset isnt his speed but his feet. He is very very fast for his size but his best attribute is that he is very nimble.

When I get back ill throw some pics up of the Iowa proday.

SI pro daytracker is saying both Clayborn and Ballard probably solidifed 1st round picks today. Both supposedly looked phenomenal.

The Jets are all over that.

Very good point about his quick feet, you can see his foot-speed in this video. Skip to 1:52 for the specific drill.

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[Iamcanadian]

Sounds like you didnt watch the workout because i thought his ball placement was excellant. There were probably two balls that the receiver had to lay out for and ironically the two that hit the ground i thought were well thrown 60 yard passes that pro wrs would have caught. In total he was very accurate albeit with a lot of safe passes.

The thing with accuracy is first off you have to ask yourself why someone is inaccurate. If someone has time to throw and flat misses open receivers that is differant than someone with not a lot of time trying to throw to mediocre WRs. As i've pointed out before, Matt Stafford was a 55% passer before AJ Green showed up and Josh Freeman's completion % dropped quite a bit after Jordy Nelson left.

If you want to believe someone can never become more accurate with hard work then how did someone like Brett Favre ever make it from a 55% college passer to a 1st ballot HOFer.

As for NFLN they for the most part dont care for Locker or just parrot what Casserly and Lombardi say. I noticed Mayock (who has Locker as his #2 QB) wasnt at the pro day yesterday for Locker, he probably couldnt stand the thought of sitting next to him on the long plane ride to Seattle.

Well, even Mayock has dropped Locker considerably on his latest rankings suggesting that he wasn't all that impressive at his pro day.
You can disagree about what the people on NFLN are saying about Locker all you want but in the end, their opinions are run past scouts and GM's all the time. Locker isn't improving his stock, he's dropping and is now a late 1st rounder at best.

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Does Armando Allen have any shot of being drafted?

a very small one but like I keep pushing with regards to demarco murray, an oft injured backup back is not something that has a good ring to it.

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Well, even Mayock has dropped Locker considerably on his latest rankings suggesting that he wasn't all that impressive at his pro day.
You can disagree about what the people on NFLN are saying about Locker all you want but in the end, their opinions are run past scouts and GM's all the time. Locker isn't improving his stock, he's dropping and is now a late 1st rounder at best.

If his pro day was scripted a certain way then why blame the player for making all the throws, i dont get that. Add to that he was much improved at the combine from what he showed in Senior Bowl practices. How is he not improving. His only real issue has been accuracy, which i can go into detail about if anyone cares. He's improved the accuracy from everything i've seen and heard so not sure why the stock doesnt rise along with it.

As for NFLN and their opinion of him that is their opinions and i respect that but the guy has improved since the end of his season, let's not try to dispute the obvious.