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RaiderNation
03-03-2011, 08:24 PM
Heres my post combine positional rankings, overall rankings and 2 round mock draft. Took me 2 days to complete all this. Comments and questions are welcomed...

QB
1 Cam Newton QB Auburn*
2 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri*
3 Jake Locker QB Washington
4 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas*
5 Christian Ponder QB Florida State
6 Colin Kapernick QB Nevada
7 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa
8 Andy Dalton QB TCU
9 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech
10 Pat Devlin QB Delaware

RB
1 Mark Ingram RB Alabama*
2 Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois*
3 DeMarco Murray RB Oklahoma
4 Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech*
5 Kendall Hunter Oklahoma State
6 Jordan Toddman RB UCONN*
7 Taiwan Jones EWU*
8 Shane Vereen RB CAL*
9 Daniel Thomas RB Kansas State
10 Derrick Lock RB Kentucky

FB
1 Owen Marecic FB Stanford
2 Stanly Havili FB USC
3 Anthony Sherman FB UCONN
4 Henry Henoski FB Pittsburgh
5 Shaun Chapas FB Georgia

WR
1 AJ Green WR Georgia*
2 Julio Jones WR Alabama*
3 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
4 Titus Young WR Boise State
5 Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh*
6 Jerrell Jernigan WR Troy
7 Torrey Smith WR Maryland*
8 Randall Cobb WR Kentucky*
9 Edmond Gates WR Abilene Christian
10 Vincent Brown WR San Diego State

TE
1 Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame*
2 Landry Kendrick TE Wisconsin
3 DJ Williams TE Arkansas
4 Luke Stocker TE Tennessee
5 Julius Thomas TE Portland State
6 Virgil Green TE Nevada
7 Lee Smith TE Marshall
8 Rob Housler TE Florida Atlantic
9 Jordan Cameron TE USC
10 Weslye Saunders TE South Carolina

OT
1 Tyron Smith OT USC*
2 Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
3 Nate Solder OT Colorado
4 Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College
5 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
6 Orlando Franklin OT Miami
7 Ben Ijalana OT Villanova
8 Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
9 DeMarcus Love OT Oklahoma
10 James Brewer OT Indiana

OG
1 Marcus Cannon OG TCU
2 Mike Pouncey OG Florida
3 Danny Watkins OG Baylor
4 John Moffit OG Wisconsin
5 Rodney Hudson OG Florida State
6 Clint Boling OG Georgia
7 Andrew Jackson OG Frenso State
8 Jason Pinkston OG Pittsburgh
9 Will Rackley OG Lehigh
10 James Carpenter OG Alabama

C
1 Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State
2 Kris O’Dowd C USC
3 Brandon Fusco C Slippery Rock
4 Alex Linnenkohl C Oregon State
5 Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU
6 Ryan Bartholomew C Syracuse
7 Zane Taylor C Utah
8 Tim Barnes Missouri
9 Zack Williams C Washington State

4-3 DE
1 Da’Quan Bowers DE Clemson*
2 Robert Quinn DE UNC*
3 Cameron Jordan DE CAL
4 JJ Watt DE Wisconsin*
5 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
6 Aldon Smith DE Missouri*
7 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
8 Brooks Reed DE Arizona
9 Jabaal Sheerd DE Pittsburgh
10 Allen Bailey DE Miami

3-4 DE
1 Marcell Dareus DL Alabama*
2 Cameron Jordan DL CAL
3 JJ Watt Wisconsin DL*
4 Cameron Heyward DL Ohio State
5 Muhammad Wilkerson DL Temple*
6 Allen Bailey DL Miami
7 Marvin Austin DL North Carolina
8 Christian Ballard DL Iowa
9 Adrian Clayborn DL Iowa
10 Pernell McPhee DL Mississippi State

DT
1 Marcell Dareus DT Alabama*
2 Nick Fairley DT Auburn*
3 Corey Liuget DT Illinois*
4 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
5 Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple*
6 Drake Nevis DT LSU
7 Cameron Heyward DT Ohio State
8 Christian Ballard DT Iowa
9 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
10 Jerrell Casey DT USC*

NT
1 Phil Taylor NT Baylor
2 Stephen Paea NT Oregon State
3 Jerrell Powe NT Ole Miss
4 Kendrick Ellis NT Hampton
5 Sione Fua NT Stanford

4-3 OLB
1 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
2 Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA*
3 Mason Foster OLB Washington
4 Bruce Carter OLB UNC
5 Mark Herzlich OLB Boston College
6 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada
7 Chris Carter OLB Fresno State
8 Colin McCarthey OLB Miami
9 KJ Wright OLB Mississippi State
10 Ross Homan OLB Ohio State

3-4 OLB
1 Robert Quinn DE/OLB UNC*
2 Von Miller DE/OLB Texas A&M
3 Aldon Smith DE/OLB Missouri*
4 Ryan Kerrigan DE/OLB Purdue
5 Justin Houston DE/OLB Georgia*
6 Brooks Reed DE/OLB Arizona
7 Akeem Ayers DE/OLB UCLA*
8 Sam Acho DE/OLB Texas
9 Dontay Moch DE/OLB Nevada
10 Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh

ILB
1 Martez Wilson ILB Illinois*
2 Greg Jones ILB Michigan State
3 Kelvin Sheppard ILB LSU
4 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC
5 Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State
6 Casey Matthews ILB Oregon
7 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn
8 Chris Wright ILB Mississippi State
9 Mike Mohamed ILB CAL
10 Scott Lutrus ILB UCONN

CB
1 Patrick Peterson CB LSU*
2 Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
3 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado
4 Brandon Harris CB Miami*
5 Aaron Williams CB Texas*
6 Brandon Burton CB Utah*
7 Davon House CB New Mexico State
8 Jalil Brown CB Colorado
9 Curtis Brown CB Texas
10 Johnny Patrick CB Louisville

DB
1 Rahim Moore DB UCLA
2 Deunta Williams DB UNC
3 Jeron Johnson DB Boise State
4 Quinton Carter DB Oklahoma
5 Robert Sands DB West Virginia
6 DeAndre McDaniel DB Clemson
7 Ahmad Black DB Florida
8 Jerrard Tarrant DB Georgia Tech
9 Will Hill DB Florida*
10 Joe Lefeged DB Rutgers

Top 50 Overall
1 Patrick Peterson DB LSU*
2 Marcell Dareus DL Alabama*
3 Da’Quan Bowers DE Clemson*
4 Nick Fairley DT Auburn*
5 AJ Green WR Georgia*
6 Robert Quinn DE/OLB UNC*
7 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
8 Prince Amuakamara CB Nebraska
9 Cam Newton QB Auburn*
10 Julio Jones WR Alabama*
11 Cameron Jordan DE CAL
12 JJ Watt DE Wisconsin*
13 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri*
14 Mark Ingram RB Alabama*
15 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
16 Tyron Smith OT USC*
17 Jake Locker QB Washington
18 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado
19 Aldon Smith DE Missouri*
20 Cameron Heyward DL Ohio State*
21 Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
22 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
23 Brandon Harris CB Miami*
24 Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas*
25 Nate Solder OT Colorado
26 Anthony Castinzo OT Boston College
27 Martez Wilson ILB Illinois*
28 Justin Houston DE/OLB Georgia*
29 Corey Liuget DT Illinois
30 Marcus Cannon OL TCU
31 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
32 Aaron Williams CB Texas*
33 Stefen Wisniewski C Penn State
34 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State
35 Rahim Moore DB UCLA
36 Mike Pouncey OL Florida
37 Muhammad Wilkerson DL Temple
38 Brooks Reed DE/OLB Arizona
39 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
40 Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA*
41 Phil Taylor NT Baylor
42 Allen Bailey DE Miami
43 Titus Young WR Boise State
44 Drake Nevis DT LSU
45 Ben Ijalana OL Villanova
46 Danny Watkins OL Baylor
47 Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame*
48 Christian Ballard DL Iowa
49 Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh*
50 Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois*

Round 1

1 Carolina Panthers- Da’Quan Bowers DE Clemson*
Even after the combine there is still no #1 obvious choice for Carolina here at #1. Charles Johnson was a force last year and adding a stud like Bowers to go opposite of him will give the Panthers one of the best DE duo’s in the NFL. Bowers was dominant his last year college and has the size of former Panthers DE Julius Peppers.
Other Options: QB Cam Newton, DT Marcell Dareus, DT Nick Fairley

2 Denver Broncos- Marcell Dareus DT Alabama*
With the re-signing of Champ Bailey and the recent cuts, DT has now become Denver’s #1 need. Many will think Fairley here, but I think the Broncos wont take that risk and select Dareus. Dareus was very impressive at the combine, showing his rare blend of size and athleticism that I think will be perfect in the 4-3.
Other Options: DB Patrick Peterson, DE Da’Quan Bowers, DT Nick Fairley

3 Buffalo Bills- Nick Fairley DT Auburn*
The Bills have historically taken risky prospects that are either boom or bust type guy, and this pick will only add to the collection. Fairley does have some maturity concerns but his play on the field will make up for it. Fairley posted Ndamukong Suh type numbers last season for the National Champion Auburn Tigers.
Other Options: QB Cam Newton, DL Marcell Dareus, OLB Von Miller

4 Cincinnati Bengals- Patrick Peterson DB LSU*
It’s official, Patrick Peterson is a BEAST, and with Jonathan Joseph now a UFA a CB could be needed. Peterson is my #1 prospect in this entire draft with his ability to make a impact as a CB, potentially as a FS and return specialist. At 6’0 220lbs and 4.34 40 speed, expect Peterson to very early in this draft.
Other Options: WR AJ Green, QB Cam Newton, DE Da’Quan Bowers

5 Arizona Cardinals- Von Miller OLB Texas A&M
Other than Cam Newton, Von Miller might be the most talked about prospect during the off season events, leading his stock to shoot up the boards. A QB here would make since, but I believe a veteran will be brought in. Miller is a standout pass rusher that would likely replace Joey Porter.
Other Options: DB Patrick Peterson, QB Cam Newton, QB Blaine Gabbert

6 Cleveland Browns- AJ Green WR Georgia*
I was surprised last year how talented this team looked at times, and how Colt McCoy was able to have some success this early in his career. But the offence and Colt could really take a step forward with the addition of AJ Green. Green didn’t run as well, which is why he falls a few spots, but on film he looks to be a #1 WR in the NFL.
Other Options: DE Da’Quan Bowers, DE Robert Quinn, DT Nick Fairley

7 San Francisco 49ers- Robert Quinn DE/OLB UNC*
I’m not buying the Gabbert hype, Newton isn’t a good fit at all and I believe Harbaugh will bring in a stop gap QB this year. So where do they go here? I think a pass rusher like Robert Quinn makes the most sense. He would replace the overrated Manny Lawson, and give this 3-4 defense the stud pass rusher from the outside they desperately need.
Other Options: QB Blaine Gabbert, CB Prince Amuakamara, OLB Von Miller

8 Tennessee Titans- Cam Newton QB Auburn*
Vince Young will be gone soon, and I think the main reason to why Jeff Fisher is out as the head coach is the GM wants to restart and draft a QB. I am one of the believers in Cam Newton being able to be a QB in the NFL, and I expect him to be gone by this pick. Newton is without a doubt a special athlete and with the correct coaching he could be what many thought VY would turn into.
Other Options: DT Nick Fairley, QB Blaine Gabbert, CB Prince Amuakamara

9 Dallas Cowboys- JJ Watt DE Wisconsin*
I’m not buying the Cowboys sticking here at 9(I can see Jerry making a move for PP), but if they do I think the best value will be at DL. Both Watt and Jordan make sense as a 3-4 DE, but I give the edge to Watt based on the hype surrounding him. Watt was impressive at the combine showing up at 6’5 290lbs and looking good in drills.
Other Options: DB Patrick Peterson, OT Tyron Smith, OLB Robert Quinn

10 Washington Redskins- Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri*
I think there is no question that the Redskins will be looking for a franchise QB here. With Newton gone, Gabbert becomes the next logical QB off the board. Gabbert fits what Mike Shanahan looks for in a QB(big arm, mobility) and could be in his eyes the next Jay Cutler. I’m not as high on Gabbert as most, but he should go in the top 10 in this QB driven league.
Other Options: QB Cam Newton, WR AJ Green, WR Julio Jones

11 Houston Texans- Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska
With Wade Phillips becoming the new DC, I expect the Texans defense to improve dramatically. They have some solid pieces up front, but I don’t see a NT worth this high of a pick, so adding to this horrible secondary is the next need. Amukamara ran a 4.43 40 which is impressive and he would add some real talent to the last ranked pass defense.
Other Options: OLB Robert Quinn, OLB Von Miller, DE Cameron Jordan

12 Minnesota Vikings- Cameron Jordan DE CAL
New Head Coach Leslie Frazier has said he would like to improve the run defense from last year and that starts on the DL. Ray Edwards is set to be a F/A and likely will be overpaid so DE will become a need. Cameron Jordan is one of my favorite prospects this year, being a standout during the Senior Bowl and combine and has some versatility in a 4-3 defense.
Other Options: QB Blaine Gabbert, OT Tyron Smith, QB Jake Locker

13 Detroit Lions- Tyron Smith OT USC*
Even though I am a believer in CB Jimmy Smith, this is still a bit high for him so the Lions will need to address another need. Matt Stafford has been hurt 2 years in a row and I think its clearly the time to help protect the future of your franchise. Tyron Smith is a project in the NFL, but he has prototypical size at 6’5, 307lbs and is a freak athlete on and off the field.
Other Options: CB Jimmy Smith, DE Ryan Kerrigan, OT Gabe Carimi

14 St. Louis Rams- Julio Jones WR Alabama*
Sam Bradford had a impressive rookie campaign even with the lack of talent on offence. Julio Jones has solidified himself as a top 15, maybe even top 10 pick with his standout performance at the combine despite a broken foot. Jones would be a instant starter for the Rams and with his 6’2 220lbs and 4.39 speed I predict he will be a Pro Bowl type WR.
Other Options: DE Ryan Kerrigan, DT Cameron Heyward, DE Aldon Smith

15 Miami Dolphins- Mark Ingram RB Alabama*
Chad Henne is already being named the starter at QB so I am ruling Locker and Mallett out here for now. With Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams starting to show some age, RB has become a huge. Mark Ingram has the look for Hall of Fame RB Emmitt Smith and was able to succeed against SEC defenses for 3 straight years.
Other Options: QB Jake Locker, QB Ryan Mallett, OLB Ryan Kerrigan

16 Jacksonville Jaguars- Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue
With the injury to Kampman last year and the lack of production from all the other DE’s I expect the Jaguars to once again take a DE in the 1st round. Ryan Kerrigan is a guy I think will succeed in both a 4-3 and 3-4 defense because of his work ethic and athleticism. Kerrigan was one of the most productive DE’s in college throught his career, with a total of 37.5 sacks.
Other Options: QB Jake Locker, QB Ryan Mallett, DE Aldon Smith

17 New England Patriots(f/OAK)- Cameron Heyward DL Ohio State
18 San Diego Chargers- Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin
19 New York Giants- Martez Wilson ILB Illinois*
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Aldon Smith DE Missouri*
21 Kansas City Chiefs- Anthony Castinzo OT Boston College
22 Indianapolis Colts- Nate Solder OT Colorado
23 Philadelphia Eagles- Derek Sherrod OL Mississippi State
24 New Orleans Saints- Stephen Paea DT Oregon State
25 Seattle Seahawks- Jake Locker QB Washington
26 Baltimore Ravens- Jimmy Smith CB Colorado
27 Atlanta Falcons- Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa
28 New England Patriots- Brooks Reed DE/OLB Arizona
29 Chicago Bears- Corey Liuget DT Illinois*
30 New York Jets- Justin Houston DE/OLB Georgia*
31 Pittsburgh Steelers- Brandon Harris CB Miami*
32 Green Bay Packers- Marcus Cannon OL TCU

Round 2

33 New England Patriots(f/CAR)- Mike Pouncey OL Florida
34 Buffalo Bills- Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA*
35 Cincinnati Bengals- Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas*
36 Denver Broncos- Aaron Williams CB Texas*
37 Cleveland Browns- Leonard Hankerson WR Miami
38 Arizona Cardinals- Christian Ponder QB Florida State
39 Tennessee Titans- Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple*
40 Dallas Cowboys- Rahim Moore DB UCLA*
41 Washington Redskins- Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh*
42 Houston Texans- Phil Taylor NT Baylor
43 Minnesota Vikings- Ben Ijalana OL Villanova
44 Detroit Lions- Brandon Burton CB Utah*
45 San Francisco 49ers- Davon House CB New Mexico
46 Denver Broncos(f/MIA)- Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame*
47 St. Louis Rams- Drake Nevis DT LSU
48 Oakland Raiders- Stefen Wisniewski C/OG Penn State
49 Jacksonville Jaguars- Deunta Williams DB UNC
50 San Diego Chargers- Sam Acho DE/OLB Texas
51 Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Greg Jones LB Michigan State
52 New York Giants- Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois*
53 Indianapolis Colts- Danny Watkins OG Baylor
54 Philadelphia Eagles- Jalil Brown CB Colorado
55 Kansas City Chiefs- Titus Young WR Boise State
56 New Orleans Saints- Mason Foster LB Washington
57 Seattle Seahawks- Curtis Brown CB Texas
58 Baltimore Ravens- Christian Ballard DL Iowa
59 Atlanta Falcons- Orlando Franklin OT Miami
60 New England Patriots- Marcus Gilbert OT Florida
61 San Diego Chargers(f/NYJ)- Kelvin Sheppard ILB LSU
62 Chicago Bears- DeMarcus Love OL Oklahoma
63 Pittsburgh Steelers- John Moffit OG Wisconsin
64 Green Bay Packers- Jerrell Jernigan WR Troy

Caulibflower
03-03-2011, 08:50 PM
Only things that I'd really disagree on are maybe having Aldon Smith higher in the 4-3 end category and having Akeem Ayers lower. And I like Brandon Harris Better than Jimmy Smith.

Also, do you really think the Titans would take Cam Newton right after getting rid of Vince Young? I like Newton, too, but he's the same type of player as Vince Young. I'd think they'd try something new.

49erNation85
03-03-2011, 08:54 PM
Where is SF QB in round two?UGH I don't wanna have to wait until round 3.I still like Stanzi / Ponder in round two.And really Cam and Gabbert over Locker still?I thought Locker really improved at the combine as far as accuracy goes.Heck even in round two Mallet would be a steal.

RaiderNation
03-03-2011, 09:00 PM
Only things that I'd really disagree on are maybe having Aldon Smith higher in the 4-3 end category and having Akeem Ayers lower. And I like Brandon Harris Better than Jimmy Smith.

Also, do you really think the Titans would take Cam Newton right after getting rid of Vince Young? I like Newton, too, but he's the same type of player as Vince Young. I'd think they'd try something new.

IDK who you would have lowered below Smith, I think all 5 of them are better and Aldon is going to struggle against the run at first in the pro's.

Harris and Smith are close but I give Smith the edge, especially after the combine since Harris is only 5'9 and Smith showed up at 6'2

Bud Adams did love VY, and really didnt want to get rid of him but he had to because the relationship between VY and the fans/orginization is all but done. I do understand though they could opt for Gabbert since they could be looking for a new direction at QB

Docta
03-03-2011, 09:06 PM
WR 4-7 should be arranged differently. Stocker should be over Williams.

RaiderNation
03-03-2011, 09:24 PM
Where is SF QB in round two?UGH I don't wanna have to wait until round 3.I still like Stanzi / Ponder in round two.And really Cam and Gabbert over Locker still?I thought Locker really improved at the combine as far as accuracy goes.Heck even in round two Mallet would be a steal.

Its hard because I really think Harbaugh is going to focus on the defense this year and then get his franchise QB next year(Luck?).

Stanzi didnt really impress at both the Senior Bowl and Combine so I think he is a 3rd now unless a team falls in love with him.

Locker looked good throwing against air, but still didnt look like a top 15 pick at the Senior Bowl and during his senior year.

I have Mallett going in the 2nd, but I truely believe a team will trade up/down into the 20's and draft him

Black Bolt
03-03-2011, 09:29 PM
Its hard because I really think Harbaugh is going to focus on the defense this year and then get his franchise QB next year(Luck?).

Stanzi didnt really impress at both the Senior Bowl and Combine so I think he is a 3rd now unless a team falls in love with him.

Locker looked good throwing against air, but still didnt look like a top 15 pick at the Senior Bowl and during his senior year.

I have Mallett going in the 2nd, but I truely believe a team will trade up/down into the 20's and draft him

Jake Kirkpatrick is not in your top ten C??? Bartholomew is better???

Also, I don't think that Franklin is an OT.

Caulibflower
03-03-2011, 09:35 PM
IDK who you would have lowered below Smith, I think all 5 of them are better and Aldon is going to struggle against the run at first in the pro's.

I like him better than Watt and Kerrigan, but I'll admit that's primarily based on my take on their pass-rushing ability. The aforementioned probably are going to be better run-stoppers, so it depends what you're looking for.

I think Brandon Harris is a more tenacious football player than Jimmy Smith, and I like the way he always seems to be able to get a hand on the ball at the last second. Jimmy Smith isn't as good in run-stopping and I don't think he's got the same ability to get to the ball. Having 5" of height is a major advantage, though, so again it just depends what you want and I'm kinda nitpicking.

shylo3716
03-03-2011, 09:40 PM
Brandon Harris sewed up the #3 CB spot you think?

49erNation85
03-03-2011, 09:41 PM
I'm tired of that exccus for JH for not taking a QB this year!Such Luck fan boys!9ers need a QB NOW! not next year.Stanzi in round 3 really?I would not mind that ,excellent value IMO.I can't wait another for a darn QB in SF and I am not a lone here.

SRogers92
03-03-2011, 09:42 PM
I think Aldon Smith will be a monster, so I'd rank him higher. He doesn't have the size as the others, but -- he actually played the run fairly well ... held up at the POA, used his hands to disengage from blockers and get to the RB, and would crash the LOS downwards to help stop the run very well ...

Harris over Jimmy Smith. I don't care about size ... Harris plays more physical than Jimmy and has better ball skills by a large margin. I'd move Harris to the #2 CB, but that's just my opinion.

proshoota25
03-03-2011, 11:28 PM
lmao dude it looks exactly like my mock in my sig. :) haha id say nice job

brasho
03-04-2011, 05:17 AM
Brandon Harris sewed up the #3 CB spot you think?

How, by being slower and smaller than expected? I think Jimmy Smith sewed it up.

king2am
03-04-2011, 05:21 AM
Where is SF QB in round two?UGH I don't wanna have to wait until round 3.I still like Stanzi / Ponder in round two.And really Cam and Gabbert over Locker still?I thought Locker really improved at the combine as far as accuracy goes.Heck even in round two Mallet would be a steal.

The combine does not erase bad tape.

JaxJag_1
03-04-2011, 07:02 AM
Dalton is the number 1 QB

no bare feet
03-04-2011, 07:09 AM
Dalton is the number 1 QB

shocking post!

Nice list but Andy Dalton is the best player in the draft.

DiG
03-04-2011, 07:35 AM
i dont like the gabbert or baldwin pick. shanahan will take locker over gabbert if he goes qb at 10. and baldwin is too inconsistent, unreliable, and soft. would much rather see phil taylor, wisniewski, torrey smith, or ijalana in the 2nd. if you dont want to put locker at 10 than cam jordan, prince, or julio would be better picks.

JaxJag_1
03-04-2011, 08:54 AM
shocking post!

Nice list but Andy Dalton is the best player in the draft.

I'm serious. Dalton will be the best QB in this class. No question.

LizardState
03-04-2011, 09:52 AM
QB
1 Cam Newton QB Auburn*
2 Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri*

Newton had erratic throws seriously lacking accuracy in his passing drill, had questionable at best interviews too. Gabbert didn't throw but showed excellent athletic skills in other drills. Based on what we know now, I would rate them:

1) Locker
2) Mallett
3) Gabbert
4a) Newton
4b) Kaepernick

I realize Mallett has questions ???? too hanging over him, but look at that big arm & excellent textbook delivery, not going to have many passes batted back in his face as a rookie & that's rare. Having the biggest arm in the draft didn't hurt Joe Flacco in coupe of yrs ago did it? Most of the problems he will have to overcome will be in his head, he has to learn to handle the pressure & rush, so the right system & QB coach is crucial. Kaepernick rose considerably after the Combine IMO too.

Sniper
03-04-2011, 10:09 AM
The combine does not erase bad tape.

Sure it does. Throwing against air in T-shirts and shorts is much more important than game situations.

Tyler Sash is better than all of the players you listed at DB.

STsACE
03-04-2011, 10:11 AM
Don't like 2 WR's to the Browns. I can see 1, Green at 6, but 2nd round needs to be best 4-3 lineman available or RT available.

Robo came on strong at the end of the year, looks like he'll be a very good 2 or 3 for us and Cribbs was hurt most of the year, which he fits the 2 or 3 spot that Robo holds opposite. MoMass is nothing more than a #4 WR. With Green, it would look really well for our WRs moving forward as he instantly becomes our #1. We also have a second year guy with speed to burn in Mitchell, who showed nice progress for a late round WR.

Keep in mind we have 1 D-Lineman worth anything on our roster.......1. We can't afford 2 WRs with our first 2 picks. RT with our 2nd would be okay being we really need an upgrade at that spot and would be willing to sacrifice that spot to fill it. If no RT is available who could start day one is there in 2nd, I'd bet my receeding hairline we go D-Line.

Matthew Jones
03-04-2011, 12:31 PM
Oonce oonce oonce oonce.

RaiderNation
03-04-2011, 02:16 PM
49er fans, I know a QB is a huge need and probably the biggest, but as I stated earlier you cant fix a team all at once, and I truely believe Harbaugh is trying to add talent to the defense this year then get his guy at QB(Luck) next year.

I am a Jimmy Smith fan and after the combine I think he is a legit top 20 pick now. Harris is only 5'9 and that will be a turn off to some teams.

My bad on the Browns pick in the 2nd with the 2 WR's, a DL like Wilkerson or Nevis make sense for that pick.

Even with Newtons performance at the combine, there will be a team that bites on his potential in the top 10. He arguably has the highest potential in this draft IMO, and has the star QB look to me. He will never be a perfect QB, but he will still win.

Tom Servo
03-04-2011, 02:29 PM
Impressive effort, but there's no way the Browns don't address the DL in the first 2 rounds

billybeejr
03-04-2011, 02:40 PM
49er fans, I know a QB is a huge need and probably the biggest, but as I stated earlier you cant fix a team all at once, and I truely believe Harbaugh is trying to add talent to the defense this year then get his guy at QB(Luck) next year.

I am a Jimmy Smith fan and after the combine I think he is a legit top 20 pick now. Harris is only 5'9 and that will be a turn off to some teams.

My bad on the Browns pick in the 2nd with the 2 WR's, a DL like Wilkerson or Nevis make sense for that pick.

Even with Newtons performance at the combine, there will be a team that bites on his potential in the top 10. He arguably has the highest potential in this draft IMO, and has the star QB look to me. He will never be a perfect QB, but he will still win.


No NFL coach, GM, etc. would EVER compromise on field success in the hope of drafting a player that's still in college.

TimmG6376
03-04-2011, 03:29 PM
Neither Cannon nor Jernigan fit TT's profile.

Will Whitticker (338lbs) was the last guy they drafted that was even close to Cannon's size. Most of the o-linemen they draft are between 300 and 320. Now some Packer fans might argue that they should get some meat on that line but TT has shown time and time again he doesn't care who the fans think he should draft.

Since 2005 the Packers have not drafted a WR shorter than 5'11" (Greg Jennings). I think Jerrel has a place in this league and will be productive for some team, but I would be surprised if it is the Packers. If he were even 5'10"-ish, I'd have more hope but he checked in at under 5'9".

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BTW appreciate the amount of work this must have taken.

prock
03-04-2011, 03:33 PM
A stellar Vikes mock and good work.

RaiderNation
03-04-2011, 03:33 PM
Neither Cannon nor Jernigan fit TT's profile.

Will Whitticker (338lbs) was the last guy they drafted that was even close to Cannon's size. Most of the o-linemen they draft are between 300 and 320. Now some Packer fans might argue that they should get some meat on that line but TT has shown time and time again he doesn't care who the fans think he should draft.

Since 2005 the Packers have not drafted a WR shorter than 5'11" (Greg Jennings). I think Jerrel has a place in this league and will be productive for some team, but I would be surprised if it is the Packers. If he were even 5'10"-ish, I'd have more hope but he checked in at under 5'9".

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BTW appreciate the amount of work this must have taken.

Thanks for the info, this is the type of stuff I love getting back from other posters since the Packers arent "my" team.

I think Jernigan would be so deadly in your guys offence because he gives you a whole different type of weapon to use. Not only at a slot guy, but as a 3rd down RB. Having his speed on the field with Jennings and crew would make defenses cry at night.

I thought Cannon would give you guys an instant upgrade somewhere along the oline, but I will change the pick since as you mentioned he doesnt fit the profile.

Pil
03-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Great rankings.

One question, and I'm saying this to everyone, when was the last draft a QB wasn't taken in the top 3 picks?

2000.

TimmG6376
03-04-2011, 03:51 PM
I think Jernigan would be so deadly in your guys offence because he gives you a whole different type of weapon to use. Not only at a slot guy, but as a 3rd down RB. Having his speed on the field with Jennings and crew would make defenses cry at night.

I agree having a slot guy like Jernigan could give opposing defenses the sweats. I wouldn't necessarily be against it I just don't think it will happen. TT also likes the WRs to be able to be interchangeable (X, Y, or Z) and based on what I've read Jernigan is being caste into that slot receiver role and might struggle at X or Z.

RaiderNation
03-04-2011, 04:12 PM
Without a doubt Jernigan is strictly a slot weapon as a WR.

I do think a team will trade up for one of the QB's into the top 5, most likely Tennessee who might think Buffalo/Arizona will take the guy they want. For some reason I think there will be alot of trading in this draft since it is a weaker offensive class and teams will be looking to upgrade positions especially since there wont be much signings/trades before the draft with the CBA situation

49erNation85
03-04-2011, 09:21 PM
Ok I'm sorry but this Luck and SF combo is nice thought but is getting old already.Most of our fans can't wait another 3 years to start winning again!WE all want a QB this year!Plenty of good second rounds IMO we can draft and sit under a vet then bring them in half or next season.The connection between JH and Luck is alright but do you think he really wants to draft Luck?I think he wants a new fresh QB and make a fresh new start in SF.Not saying Luck couldn't do that but if end up making the play offs we won't even have a clear shot at him any ways so why bother.I really think if we can grab a good vet and draft a second round QB we can starting making the play off run.To me that is how good our team is right now just missing that one element A QB!

J-Mike88
03-05-2011, 07:04 AM
I agree having a slot guy like Jernigan could give opposing defenses the sweats. I wouldn't necessarily be against it I just don't think it will happen.
I don't think it will happen either, but nobody expected Ted Thompson to aggressively trade-up into the 1st round in the 2009 draft to select Clay Matthews.
So you never know.

I think McCarthy said last week that the failures on punt and kick return were his fault, so perhaps they actually draft a guy who will specifically boost the return unit right away, and perhaps helps on offense 2, 3 years down the road.

SF Dolphin Fan
03-05-2011, 12:52 PM
Nice work. Really comprehensive and well done list.

Texas Homer
03-05-2011, 12:52 PM
"11 Houston Texans- Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska"

I like.