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jnew76
03-09-2011, 06:52 PM
As mentioned in the story, this should have a big impact on potential trades.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27823237

Posted by Andy Benoit

Well, at least some progress is being made in the labor negotiations. There is still the division of $9 billion to figure out. But in the meantime, the NFL and NFLPA has agreed that a much smaller chunk of that $9 billion than in past years will go to rookies.

Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports writes, “According to two sources familiar with the negotiations, the league and the union have reached a basic compromise on a rookie wage scale that will replace the current rookie salary cap. The owners backed off the idea of requiring first-round picks to sign five-year deals, instead limiting the contracts to four years before a player could become a free agent. The agreement is also expected to include a stipulation limiting the amount of guaranteed money and signing bonus offered to draft picks.”

The agreement also says that players drafted after the first round can become free agents after three years, though teams can be restricted tags (i.e. RFA tender) after three years. That’s essentially the same arrangement as before.

But the focus is on the first-rounders. Previously, players picked 1-16 could sign six-year deals; players picked 17-32 could sign for five years. But a shorter four-year deal allows good players to reach free agency faster. That’s key when you’re talking about limiting those players’ salaries.

It is not yet known just how limited those salaries will be. Cole reports that the owners’ initial offer was for the top overall pick to receive a five-year deal worth $19 million, with $6 million guaranteed. That would be about a $44 million drop from what Sam Bradford received last year.

A rookie wage scale has significant impact on the value of draft picks. No longer will holding a top five pick be a curse. Don’t be surprised if teams that normally horde late-round picks (say, the Patriots, for example) suddenly discover a newfound interest for trading up in the draft.

As for what this means for the ongoing labor negotiations....it's progress, obviously. But it's expected progress. The concept of a rookie wage scale is one area where the NFL and NFLPA have been on the same general page all along.

descendency
03-09-2011, 07:31 PM
The patriots are mis-understood.

The Jets and Patriots are on just about dire opposites (right now). One values lots of players = lots of depth, but no real elite talent. The other one values a few elite players at key positions = but lacks depth. One trades down a lot and the other trades up.

That said, I think it is more likely that the value of a first rounder goes up even more and Belichick may seize the opportunity to trade back and get even more value for his picks now. This draft may tell us something (or it may just be an anomaly).

BaLLiN
03-09-2011, 07:36 PM
wow, this is huge. I like it, but I also don't like it because this means Jerry Reese will never make a trade

Brothgar
03-09-2011, 08:00 PM
To be honest I think that we will go back to trade chart value now. When Jimmy Johnson formulated the trade value chart for draft pick it was the 1990s where this kind of problem wasn't really a problem yet. With a rookie pay scale the picks value goes back to that old trade value chart value where in recent years the value of top picks has diminished and 2nd round picks higher valued.

PossibleCabbage
03-09-2011, 08:48 PM
Well, let's keep in mind that this is only going to take effect if we actually get a new CBA. If the NFLPA decertifies and files an antitrust lawsuit, the league may not want to take the risk of imposing a rookie wage scale even though a strong argument can be made for a rookie wage scale being pro-competitive rather than anti-competitive.

Though, to be honest... this isn't really news as far as the draft is concerned (though it's good news as far as the labor unrest is concerned). Everybody pretty much knew that all of the high picks in this draft were going to end up getting paid much less than the high picks last year.

bitonti
03-10-2011, 09:20 AM
it strengthens the case for Cam Newton or Blaine Gabbert at 1. There's not gonna be another 50 million dollar bonus baby like Bradford where the high salary dictates you have to play em day 1. It encourages drafting on upside not just on who is the safest/cheapest. It also thwarts agents who want to "make a deal" to get up to 1.

Iamcanadian
03-10-2011, 09:39 AM
I wouldn't jump to too many conclusions just yet. The Union will be pleased with the 4 year contracts for 1st round picks but how much money did they actually surrender in the pay scale to get it, no word on that yet. I'm still expecting a rookie pay scale that is a watered down version of what most people are expecting. just have to wait and see.

killxswitch
03-10-2011, 09:48 AM
I want to know how increases will be governed. Obviously the cap, by nature, has to increase incrementally every year. So will the rookie cap be based on a percentage of the total salary cap each team has to abide by? How will this vary by position?

descendency
03-10-2011, 10:08 AM
current increases are between 10 and 20 % per year. If you go from a DT to a Q B (or something like that), you tend to get 20% increase.

If you go from QB to QB it varies, but you likely won't see more than 15%.

It would be a pretty big deal if whoever signed #1 this year to get 20% increase over last year because that would guarantee them 60 million. (yea, 60, not 50)

My guess is that the league and union are going to agree between 12-15%.