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4U2NV
03-12-2011, 08:24 PM
Been working on a 2 round draft for a while but it still needs tinkering. The 2nd round is somewhat of a cluster-you-know-what so go easy on me but I wanted to post it and get some feedback so I know where I need to tweak things.

1. Carolina Panthers – Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Denver Broncos – Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
3. Buffalo Bills – Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
4. Cincinnati Bengals – Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
5. Arizona Cardinals – Von Miller, DE/OLB Texas A&M
6. Cleveland Browns – Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
7. San Francisco 49ers – Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
8. Tennessee Titans – Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
9. Dallas Cowboys – Prince Amakumara, CB, Nebraska
10. Washington Redskins – A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
11. Houston Texans – Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri
12. Minnesota Vikings – Jake Locker, QB, Washington
13. Detroit Lions – Tyron Smith, OT, USC
14. St. Louis Rams – Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
15. Miami Dolphins – Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
16. Jacksonville Jaguars – Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
17. New England Patriots – Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
18. San Diego Chargers – J.J. Watt, DE/DT, Wisconsin
19. New York Giants – Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Justin Houston, DE/OLB, Georgia
21. Kansas City Chiefs – Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
22. Indianapolis Colts – Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
23. Philadelphia Eagles – Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
24. New Orleans Saints – Cameron Jordan, DE, California
25. Seattle Seahawks – Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
26. Baltimore Ravens – Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
27. Atlanta Falcons – Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State
28. New England Patriots – Muhammad Wilkerson, DE/DT Temple
29. Chicago Bears – Mike Pouncey, OG, Florida
30. New York Jets – Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona
31. Pittsburgh Steelers – Martez Wilson, ILB, Illinois
32. Green Bay Packers – Aaron Williams, CB, Texas

33. New England Patriots - Stephen Wisniewski, C/OG, Penn State
34. Buffalo Bills - Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
35. Cincinnati Bengals - Mikel Leshoure, RB, Illinois
36. Denver Broncos - Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA
37. Cleveland Browns - Jon Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh
38. Arizona Cardinals - Benjamin Ijalana, OT/G, Villanova
39. Tennessee Titans - Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
40. Dallas Cowboys - Christian Ballard, DE, Iowa
41. Washington Redkinns - Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
42. Houston Texas - Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
43. Minnesota Vikings - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
44. Detroit Lions - Akeem Ayers, DE/OLB, UCLA
45. San Francisco 49ers - Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas
46. Denver Broncos - Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech
47. St. Louis Rams - Allen Bailey, DE, Miami
48. Oakland Raiders - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
49. Jacksonville Jaguars - Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
50. San Diego Chargers - Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina
51. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
52. New York Giants - Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame
53. Indianapolis Colts - Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
54. Philadelphia Eagles - Orlando Franklin, OG, Miami
55. Kansas City Chiefs - Rodney Hudson, C/OG, Florida State
56. New Orleans Saints - Mason Foster, OLB, Washington
57. Seattle Seahawks - Jabaal Sheard, DE, Pittsburgh
58. Baltimore Ravens - Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
59. Atlanta Falcons - Titus Young, WR, Boise State
60. New England Patriots - Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky
61. San Diego Chargers - Tandon Doss, WR, Indiana
62. Chicago Bears - Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon State
63. Pittsburgh Steelers - Marcus Cannon, OG, TCU
64. Green Bay Packers - Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas State

NGSeiler
03-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Thumbs up for the Rams' first round pick, but I'm not a big fan of Allen Bailey in the second round. The Rams could use a DE, but I'm not crazy about Bailey's value as a mid-second rounder. With Liuget, Carter, Clayborn, Hudson, Foster, Paea, and Cannon still on the board, it seems like there could have been a better choice.

Xiomera
03-12-2011, 08:45 PM
The Lions taking an OT in Round 1 is a development I hate in seemingly every mock that's being made these days.

txparkes49x
03-12-2011, 08:47 PM
Dowling in the second would be great. But idk if i love this mock or not. Apart of me thinks thats incredible but then it doesnt fill needs

ChicagoBearsVet23
03-12-2011, 10:21 PM
Perfect Bears picks!!!!!!!!!!

bored of education
03-12-2011, 10:22 PM
I would love the draft for KC esp if they have Hudson at C.

thebow305
03-12-2011, 10:27 PM
I'd be good with Ingram.

Chucky
03-12-2011, 10:33 PM
Great Bucs mock. Would love to see the Bucs double up at DE if Clayborn is there in the second

SimonRath
03-13-2011, 12:11 AM
with Justin Houston not a option then Heyward is the next best DE option.
Titus Young in the 2nd is a steal.

Nalej
03-13-2011, 12:23 AM
I love the first three Pats picks.
Not a fan of Cobb though.
The Pats have a enough short WRs.
They need a 6 foot plus WR that can stretch the field (T.Doss, G.Littel, etc)

T-RICH49
03-13-2011, 01:41 AM
I would love the draft for KC esp if they have Hudson at C.

listen to boe.boe kows Chiefs drafts

49erNation85
03-13-2011, 10:42 AM
Agreed Dowling much better value in the second.Or a QB there too either in Ponder or Dalton.

phlysac
03-13-2011, 10:47 AM
7. San Francisco 49ers – Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
45. San Francisco 49ers - Sam Acho, DE/OLB, Texas


Do you see Bowers as a 3-4 OLB? His skills as a rush threat would be eliminated at a 5-Tech. He's a reach as an OLB in my opinion.

If you have Bowers at OLB why select Acho for the same position? You must have Bowers at DE and he's terrible value in the 3-4.

wicket
03-13-2011, 11:59 AM
I think my saints would be inclined to take paea over foster but still this draft would be pretty jizztastic

4U2NV
03-13-2011, 12:11 PM
Do you see Bowers as a 3-4 OLB? His skills as a rush threat would be eliminated at a 5-Tech. He's a reach as an OLB in my opinion.

If you have Bowers at OLB why select Acho for the same position? You must have Bowers at DE and he's terrible value in the 3-4.

I don't know a lot about the 9ers situation so I merely tried to go BPA with both picks. I'm still getting a feel for the prospects.

phlysac
03-13-2011, 12:42 PM
I don't know a lot about the 9ers situation so I merely tried to go BPA with both picks. I'm still getting a feel for the prospects.

Works for me.

The 49ers will employ a 3-4 scheme similar to what Dom Capers runs in Green Bay. Vic Fangio is a protege of Capers and utilized this scheme last season with the Stanford Cardinal.

4U2NV
03-13-2011, 01:04 PM
Works for me.

The 49ers will employ a 3-4 scheme similar to what Dom Capers runs in Green Bay. Vic Fangio is a protege of Capers and utilized this scheme last season with the Stanford Cardinal.

Thanks for the info. In your opinion, who do you think would fit what the 9ers are trying to do on D?

Thank you everybody else for your comments, I appreciate it!

prock
03-13-2011, 01:31 PM
I think Solder is a bust, but this is a solid Vikings mock.

fenikz
03-13-2011, 03:53 PM
Good Cardinals picks, Harris would also be a solid pick in the 2nd but I doubt he falls that far

vidae
03-13-2011, 03:57 PM
Fantastic Chiefs draft.

Seasonticketholder
03-13-2011, 05:59 PM
I think my saints would be inclined to take paea over foster but still this draft would be pretty jizztastic

I would agree. I am not a fan of taking Paea at all in the first round because I think we are solid in the middle with Ellis and Rogers plus Paea plays the same position as Ellis. But in the second round, he would represent value and I could justify drafting him for depth purposes. He would help out in the rotation.

Rabscuttle
03-13-2011, 06:37 PM
I would prefer Quinn to Bowers. Then go with Paea and just say we lose Franklin to free agency.

Amukamara and Acho would be a combo to consider. Two needs that match up closely with value on your board.

Matthew Jones
03-13-2011, 07:39 PM
I don't know if Randall Cobb is the kind of receiver we would be interested in adding - they might want someone bigger and more physical, like a Leonard Hankerson. Stefen Wisniewski is nice at #33 but Solder would be a much better pick.

proshoota25
03-14-2011, 01:10 AM
I don't know if Randall Cobb is the kind of receiver we would be interested in adding - they might want someone bigger and more physical, like a Leonard Hankerson. Stefen Wisniewski is nice at #33 but Solder would be a much better pick.

totally agree here

Diehard
03-14-2011, 01:52 AM
I'm a Hokies fan, but I have to say Ryan Williams to Denver looks like a bad pick when you consider the talent that gets taken at picks 47-59.

holt_bruce81
03-14-2011, 02:58 AM
Love the Rams picks.

Corey Liuget is a top 20 pick.

Poz51
03-14-2011, 08:42 AM
3. Buffalo Bills – Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
34. Buffalo Bills - Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
38. Arizona Cardinals - Benjamin Ijalana, OT/G, Villanova
40. Dallas Cowboys - Christian Ballard, DE, Iowa
43. Minnesota Vikings - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
44. Detroit Lions - Akeem Ayers, DE/OLB, UCLA
48. Oakland Raiders - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
51. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
52. New York Giants - Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame

Good first round pick for Buffalo, I think with Newton and Dareus off the board that is the direction the Bills would go in.
Kaepernick in the second is a round too early for my tastes, especially with the players listed still on board, personally I would grab Sherrod or Rudolph, I could also see them taking Ballard, Solder, Clayborn, or even Ayers or Ijalana before Kaepernick. Not to say that Kaepernick does not fit their drafting philosophy or system, because he does, its more of a value issue.

DiG
03-14-2011, 09:03 AM
love aj green in the first for the skins but curious to hear how you see austin fitting into our defense. i think as a prospect he has a ton of upside but he is not really disciplined to play 3-4 de unless your trying to play him similar to a cullen jenkins type role. im just not sure that the skins will take a chance on another big dl with attitude/work ethic concerns after the big al fiasco.

4U2NV
03-14-2011, 01:56 PM
love aj green in the first for the skins but curious to hear how you see austin fitting into our defense. i think as a prospect he has a ton of upside but he is not really disciplined to play 3-4 de unless your trying to play him similar to a cullen jenkins type role. im just not sure that the skins will take a chance on another big dl with attitude/work ethic concerns after the big al fiasco.
I admit that I'm not as well versed with some of the prospects as others on this board are so I'm trying to gather as much info as possible. Who do you think would be a better fit for Washington?

StrikeAnywhere
03-14-2011, 01:57 PM
46. Denver Broncos - Ryan Williams, RB, Virginia Tech

Can we PLEASE stop sending running backs to Denver?

DiG
03-14-2011, 02:27 PM
I admit that I'm not as well versed with some of the prospects as others on this board are so I'm trying to gather as much info as possible. Who do you think would be a better fit for Washington?

im not sure austin isnt a good fit. i think hes good value in terms of talent and only the coaches really know whether that talent fits the scheme or not. you just dont hear alot about austin as a 3-4 prospect. its an intriguing question and probably depends on the specific defense and what that defense needs. the attitude concerns are the real question for me. he could probably even rotate between DE and NT if he's taught to be more disciplined. Other options could be interior OLine or maybe a pass rusher to compliment Orakpo at OLB.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-14-2011, 02:45 PM
I admit that I'm not as well versed with some of the prospects as others on this board are so I'm trying to gather as much info as possible. Who do you think would be a better fit for Washington?

Tons of better picks. Just the next 2 guys you have there. Brandon Harris would be a spectacular pick as Carlos Rogers is likely gone so a starter opposite of Deangelo Hall is needed. Solder would be a good pick there, bookends for the next 10 years with him and Trent Williams. Akeem Ayers would be a nice pick to line up opposite of Orakpo. Adrian Clayborne while I do like him more in a 43 would be a better 5 tech fit than Austin IMO and much safer of a pick, same goes for Liuget. Paea, Marcus Cannon, Mason Foster, also better picks. Austin has talent although not nearly as talented as his post college career accolades would lead you to believe. If he were the bpa I wouldn't go crazy about him going that early, but since I can name over a dozen players off the top of my head available who would be better picks I wouldn't like it. Nice work overall on your pick though.

coordinator0
03-14-2011, 04:01 PM
I have mixed feelings on Torrey Smith for the Ravens. I don't think his value is in the first round, but his skill-set is definitely what we're lacking.

Dowling is a bad pick. He's not a man-coverage corner which is what we need.

TACKLE
03-14-2011, 04:18 PM
Dowling is a bad pick. He's not a man-coverage corner which is what we need.

He's a versatile DB who can play FS or SS which we do need.

coordinator0
03-14-2011, 05:10 PM
He's a versatile DB who can play FS or SS which we do need.

We will need a replacement for Reed, but this isn't the draft to get one in IMO. Moore might be the best bet if we want somebody to play the role that Reed does now, but I wouldn't take him in the first and I'm not sure he'll be available in the second (nor would I take him over similarly rated players at WR, OLB, ILB, DE).

I doubt we will look at a SS in the higher rounds this draft, Zbikowski is going to get his shot at that position and he should fare much better there than he did replacing Reed as the FS (where he wasn't bad in the first place). Hopefully Landry is gone but that's not even a sure thing yet.

If Dowling could stick with receivers at the NFL level I would have no problem taking him to help us out with bigger receivers, but from what I've seen and read he's not going to be able to do that. Since Pagano has stated that he wants to be more aggressive I doubt we will use more zone coverage as well, and it's not liked we used it too often in the past.