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nofalcons10
03-14-2011, 11:19 PM
what do some of you 3-4 team fans think of this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CObtOq1MRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2D38T-0I24s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6m2CkizFYs&feature=player_embedded

he seems to have the perfect build and base leg strength to be succeed at the pro level.

Thoughts?

Duffman57
03-14-2011, 11:55 PM
Need to have some SERIOUS coaching, but he looks like a team could try to grab him up in the UDFA's. Its pretty funny, i didn't think i read it right at first, but my friend plays at Colorado Mines. I didnt think there was anyone serious even close to there, but its interesting, i'll have to ask him about this guy.

ellsy82
03-14-2011, 11:56 PM
Some team like the Chiefs or Chargers will take a chance on him. Its funny, teams with a long standing history and success using a 3-4 tend to want to find more athletic NTs that have the ability to move all over the line and come in on 3rd and 4th downs. Guys like Casey Hampton and BJ Raji may be finding themselves on less team's radars. Players like Ngata might be more appealing.

I'm not trying to downplay the need for a 2-down NT, simply that with the evolution of the game, perhaps we'll be seeing more Ngata-clones being groomed and drafted...and less 340+ pound tackles being taken in the first round.

GB12
03-15-2011, 12:15 AM
Some team like the Chiefs or Chargers will take a chance on him. Its funny, teams with a long standing history and success using a 3-4 tend to want to find more athletic NTs that have the ability to move all over the line and come in on 3rd and 4th downs. Guys like Casey Hampton and BJ Raji may be finding themselves on less team's radars. Players like Ngata might be more appealing.

I'm not trying to downplay the need for a 2-down NT, simply that with the evolution of the game, perhaps we'll be seeing more Ngata-clones being groomed and drafted...and less 340+ pound tackles being taken in the first round.
1. Of course players like Ngata are more appealing. He's the best 3-4 lineman in football.

2. But there aren't players like Ngata. You're not going to see Ngata-clones being drafted, because there aren't Ngata-clones. He's a special player and players like him simply don't come around often. That's like saying will be seeing more Brady-clones drafted.

3. Ngata is 350lbs

4. BJ Raji played 85% of defensive snaps last year

5. Unless the NFL turns into 7 on 7, guys like Raji and Hampton will be on every teams' radar. 3-4 and 4-3.

PossibleCabbage
03-15-2011, 12:20 AM
Raji is very mobile for a guy his size (1.69 10-yard, 4.69 short shuttle, 7.90 3-cone). That's why he was a top 10 pick, he didn't go so high just because he was big and strong. Big men who are quick and strong will always be in demand. Big guys who are strong, but slow go in the second round or later (e.g. Ron Brace, Terrence Cody).

4. BJ Raji played 85% of defensive snaps last year.

The Packers also played over 75% of their defensive snaps with two or fewer defensive linemen. Raji played a lot in nickel. So trying to cast him as a 2-down run-stuffer is just incorrect.

As for Sumner, I never saw him play (hard to find CSM games on TV, though you have to love their nickname: Go Orediggers!). The things I worry about when scouting NTs are initial explosion (the really big one), instincts, and stamina. A lot of those things you can't pick up from watching highlight film. I know the Packers (as well as the Bills and Broncos) were at the CSM pro-day, but they could be looking at DE/OLB Marc Schiechl as much as Sumner. I'd like to read more about the workout if I could find it.

ellsy82
03-15-2011, 01:33 AM
Sorry guys. I was just spitballing. To be honest, have any of us seen Summers play? He's a helluva UDFA sleeper prospect, but when it comes down to it none of us have seen him actually take a snap except for on those youtube videos (unless you actually go to that school).

Like I said, I didn't want to start a big debate here, but won't teams try to develop more Ngata clones due to the increased demand for them at the pro level? I realize he's a once in a lifetime player, going to pretty much every pro bowl he's had the chance to go to in this league, but I can see more UTs being groomed for a similar role.

Abaddon
03-15-2011, 02:20 AM
You had me at "Vanilla Gorilla."

DBNYDP
03-15-2011, 03:06 AM
I want him for his nickname.

DBNYDP
03-15-2011, 03:14 AM
1.71 10 Yard split..
Holy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yc66P9aWE4&feature=related

ChiFan24
03-15-2011, 05:28 AM
I guess I can't really tell from a Youtube video, especially one that I skipped plays at a time, but he didn't seem to have much explosion off the line. Strong and active, but not very explosive. Also....I guess I don't really pay attention to long snapping - but is it actually impressive to drill a guy while he's in mid air? Is that even allowed? I seriously have no idea.

Also, I'd like to hear Packers fans talk about their players some more. It's always so interesting. Hasn't Howard Green played nose tackle? Ryan Pickett? Tell everyone how great they are!

Don Vito
03-15-2011, 07:10 AM
There is now way that guy is not juicing, he looks like the most obvious steroid user.

Roddoliver
03-15-2011, 07:15 AM
LOL @ "drug free"

descendency
03-15-2011, 07:17 AM
Tackling the jumper is most definitely holding.

There is now way that guy is not juicing, he looks like the most obvious steroid user.

He's passing tests, which is all that really matters.

no bare feet
03-15-2011, 07:24 AM
If I am a team with multiple picks in the 6th or 7th I take a this guy. He is my favorite player ever. Wow. Vanilla Gorilla

no bare feet
03-15-2011, 07:25 AM
He looks beastly v. the Nevada School of Mimes

regoob2
03-15-2011, 08:40 AM
Anyone else see the crazy white guy from The Program?

killxswitch
03-15-2011, 10:18 AM
FYI - DO NOT google image search for Blaine Sumner!!

ElectricEye
03-15-2011, 10:38 AM
FYI - DO NOT google image search for Blaine Sumner!!

Apparently google has a massive problem with their safesearch haha. Yeah, don't do that.

Shane P. Hallam
03-15-2011, 10:43 AM
FYI - DO NOT google image search for Blaine Sumner!!

I wish I had read this whole thread before searching...

nofalcons10
03-15-2011, 10:43 AM
he just repped 52 on the bench press at airforce's pro day

Mines nose tackle Blaine Sumner wowed the weight room crowd by bench-pressing 225 pounds a whopping 52 times. The 6-foot-2, 330-pound Sumner’s total eclipsed the NFL combine record of 49 set by former Oregon State defensive tackle Stephen Paea, according to NFL.com. http://www.gazette.com/articles/amon...#ixzz1GgQ4F59f

Roddoliver
03-15-2011, 10:46 AM
Steroid monster

eaglesalltheway
03-15-2011, 10:52 AM
I guess I can't really tell from a Youtube video, especially one that I skipped plays at a time, but he didn't seem to have much explosion off the line. Strong and active, but not very explosive. Also....I guess I don't really pay attention to long snapping - but is it actually impressive to drill a guy while he's in mid air? Is that even allowed? I seriously have no idea.

Also, I'd like to hear Packers fans talk about their players some more. It's always so interesting. Hasn't Howard Green played nose tackle? Ryan Pickett? Tell everyone how great they are!

First thing I noticed in the first three plays of the youtube clip, and it showed in his broad jump. Lots of measurables to work with, I'm sure someone will take a chance on him either in the 6th-7th or as a priority FA.

cajuncorey
03-15-2011, 11:25 AM
that is the most lean 335 pounder ive ever seen. that kid is a freak. and he runs 5.15. if he passes the drug tests ill take him in the 5th

SimonRath
03-15-2011, 11:27 AM
FYI - DO NOT google image search for Blaine Sumner!!

**** my curiosity...

brat316
03-15-2011, 11:33 AM
He is more of a bodybuilder than football player. Looks stiff.

eaglesalltheway
03-15-2011, 12:13 PM
He is more of a bodybuilder than football player. Looks stiff.

You can see it especially in his combine/pro day drills. He has a weird, choppy gait when he runs, and isn't fluid. But the guy is jacked so hard you would expect there to be limited flexiblity/fluidity in his movement.

ElectricEye
03-15-2011, 12:17 PM
I'm always weary of guys like this. Very few guys with body builder bodies actually succeed at the NFL level. The measurable ability alone warrants a look in a camp though.

dannyz
03-15-2011, 05:03 PM
Apparently google has a massive problem with their safesearch haha. Yeah, don't do that.

FYI - DO NOT google image search for Blaine Sumner!!

Why make it sound so interesting? I searched and looked one second later I clicked back. No Thank You.

DBNYDP
03-15-2011, 05:31 PM
**** my curiosity.

killxswitch
03-15-2011, 05:31 PM
Interesting? I specifically warned everyone not to do it. If you did it anyway it's your own fault. I guess I could've said "DON'T GOOGLE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SEE WANGS" but I thought what I said was enough.

Rabscuttle
03-15-2011, 05:57 PM
The Niners has a bunch of 5-7 round picks, why not send up a guard that says "the freaking juice monkey." Worst case scenario - pisses hot multiple times in training camp and never plays a down. Best case scenario - consistantly eats two blockers.

*finished watching the clip. it gets hilarious at the end. world's most aggressive long snapper/fullback. someone needs to draft him to keep him from becoming a bouncer and hurting drunk kids.

jnew76
03-15-2011, 06:52 PM
His arms look really short and he is so raw... I never saw him use his hands effectively. His pass rush is devoid of anything I would call technique... He will no doubt get a look, but I would be surprised if he were drafted before round 7. Huge project, but no doubt has upside.

wordofi
03-15-2011, 08:32 PM
He obviously uses steroids. He would have to have out-of-this-world genetics to get a body like that naturally.

Saints-Tigers
03-15-2011, 08:59 PM
He is more of a bodybuilder than football player. Looks stiff.

You must have google searched as well. FML

FUNBUNCHER
03-15-2011, 09:30 PM
Most unintentionally funny thread eva!!

BTW, I doubt those power numbers are 'clean.'

Nearly anyone who boasts a 600+# bench and a half-ton squat is shady.
You don't get that jacked sucking down your mother's milk.

Brent
03-15-2011, 09:30 PM
I sure as **** did search Blaine Sumner. Hilarious.

FuzzyGopher
03-15-2011, 09:59 PM
He has to be on gear. No one puts on that much much mass naturally in that short period of time. I mean, just look at the pics of him sitting by the pool and him in the video. It's just not possible.

TACKLE
03-15-2011, 10:02 PM
I sure as **** did search Blaine Sumner. Hilarious.

I INSTANTLY REGRET THAT DECISION!!!

cajuncorey
03-15-2011, 10:10 PM
He is more of a bodybuilder than football player. Looks stiff.

You must have google searched as well. FML

HAHAHAHAHAH THATS JUST HILARIOUS

killxswitch
03-15-2011, 11:01 PM
I'm so happy people didn't take my warning seriously. Bwa ha ha ha

dannyz
03-15-2011, 11:20 PM
I'm so happy people didn't take my warning seriously. Bwa ha ha ha

It's not funny. I was faked into it. I kinda knew it would be something gross but I also kinda thought it would be something funny. I guess not unless your into that stuff. I am not.

killxswitch
03-15-2011, 11:27 PM
The warning was sincere but I also know the type of person that posts here.

bored of education
03-15-2011, 11:37 PM
hope you werent implying anything towards me mr. i used to have a bulge exposed in my avy!

killxswitch
03-15-2011, 11:41 PM
hope you werent implying anything towards me mr. i used to have a bulge exposed in my avy!

I meant that if someone posts "Don't do x" at least half and more likely 80% of the posters will go do x immediately.

And bulge != nutsack so I don't think it was THAT homoerotic.

bored of education
03-15-2011, 11:48 PM
it was a freshly shaven sack

BigBanger
03-16-2011, 12:02 AM
DON'T GOOGLE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SEE WANGS
**** my curiosity.

Raiderz4Life
03-16-2011, 12:14 AM
O fml....you guys suck....T___T

killxswitch
03-16-2011, 12:20 AM
it was a freshly shaven sack

Then why was it orange?

niel89
03-16-2011, 12:40 AM
What is it? I want to know but I refuse to look it up.

whatadai
03-16-2011, 12:42 AM
Interesting? I specifically warned everyone not to do it. If you did it anyway it's your own fault. I guess I could've said "DON'T GOOGLE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SEE WANGS" but I thought what I said was enough.

I wasn't going to until you told us not to. UGH!

PossibleCabbage
03-16-2011, 01:52 AM
What is it? I want to know but I refuse to look it up.

Just some naked male porn star (apparently also named Blaine Sumner) with an erection. Hardly the most scandalous thing on the internet. It's not grotesque or anything, it's just a naked dude.

evenar
03-16-2011, 03:53 AM
Has any of these freak, small school nose tackles who always come up some time in March actually done anything besides being signed as a UDFA and then cut the next day?

descendency
03-16-2011, 06:33 AM
I was actually kind of shocked it wasn't worse (the images via Google search).

M.O.T.H.
03-16-2011, 07:10 AM
I remember Walter Thomas.

killxswitch
03-16-2011, 08:18 AM
I remember Walter Thomas.

He can do a backflip!

Black Bolt
03-16-2011, 08:53 AM
Whatever you do, do NOT google images under the name "Blaine Sumner."

what do some of you 3-4 team fans think of this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CObtOq1MRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2D38T-0I24s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6m2CkizFYs&feature=player_embedded

he seems to have the perfect build and base leg strength to be succeed at the pro level.

Thoughts?

A Perfect Score
03-16-2011, 09:03 AM
After reading this thread, it's become clear to me that I'm the only one who actually listened to the warning.

batsandgats
03-16-2011, 10:08 AM
Has any of these freak, small school nose tackles who always come up some time in March actually done anything besides being signed as a UDFA and then cut the next day?

I don't know if he counts under this, but Trey Lewis was a d2 defensive tackle that was drafted in the 6th, worked his way up to starter for the Falcons before tearing his knee later in the season, he was 6'3 323 pounds. Then he fell down some stairs and hurt his knee again. I think he finally started playing again, not sure. He wasn't as strong as this guy but other measurables are similar. 5.14 in the 40-yard dash, Bench-pressing 225 pounds 21 times, having a 582-pound squat, a 417-pound hang clean, a 30 1/2-inch vertical jump, and a 9-foot broad jump.

Sammie Hill is another DT from d2 that made it, but he was drafted in the 4th. He was found in a similar way though, they were scouting another guy Brian Witherspoon and found him. 6'4 329 pounds. Hes managed to stick with the Lions, Witherspoon has bounced around.

I think this guy was found when teams were looking at Schiechl, a pass rusher who had a pretty good pro day as well. I know the Packers were looking at him, then Sumner put up crazy numbers and was also invited to do another pro day at Air Force.

I think the lack of small school defensive tackles is the fact that those guys tend to be on the smaller side, its rare to find bigger guys.

This guy is very raw but has potential, hes hasn't even come close to reaching his full potential. I could see a team taking him in the 7th, some people have said 6th but that is stretch. You never know, teams are desperate for big guys for the middle now that so many teams are using the 3-4. I know a few teams are interested in him and some people are saying he is the reason why Schiechl was so successful as a pass rusher, who holds the d2 career sack record with 45. Sumners' main weakness is technique and not always using his strength, which he has mentioned himself, that can probably be fixed with coaching. I don't think Colorado School of Mines has the best coaching staff, I wasn't even aware they had a football team and I have a cousin who goes there. All he will need to do is push the pocket and clog run lanes, he won't have to be that fluid.

energizerbunny
03-16-2011, 10:13 AM
His lifts aren't as impressive as you would think, he is wearing a squat suit and bench shirt... which add extreme amounts of weight to those lifts.

You can tell the impact this has by his average broad jump, anyone that strong would have an extremely impressive broad... which he has not.

cajuncorey
03-16-2011, 10:22 AM
The warning was sincere but I also know the type of person that posts here.

you cleary dont... everyone definatly checked. even myself lol

batsandgats
03-16-2011, 11:14 AM
His lifts aren't as impressive as you would think, he is wearing a squat suit and bench shirt... which add extreme amounts of weight to those lifts.

You can tell the impact this has by his average broad jump, anyone that strong would have an extremely impressive broad... which he has not.It depends, suits differ in how much they help and you can't just put on a squat suit and bench shirt and add 200 pounds to what you can lift. It takes technique and training, so its hard to tell how much he would lift without, the suit probably added 100 pounds at the most to his squat. The division 2 guy i listed squatted under 600. I know guys that cant even add 50 pounds to their lifts after forking out a ton on gear.


His other numbers are almost identical to Raji

Sumner
Vertical: 33.5”
Broad: 8’6”
40 yard: 5.15
20 yard split: 2.94
10 yard split: 1.71
Short Shuttle: 4.50
L Drill (3 cone drill): 7.49

Raji
5.12
1.69 10-yard dash
2.93 20-yard dash
Vertical Jump: 32
Broad Jump: 08'07"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.69
3-Cone Drill: 7.90

Raji had 33 reps in the bench

I don't think anyone would say Raji has average strength
here are Wilfork's numbers, another big strong but athletic guy.


40 yard dash 5.08 (pro day)
Vertical Jump: 26 1/2
Broad Jump: 8'5"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.50
3-Cone Drill: 7.62
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 36

killxswitch
03-16-2011, 12:10 PM
Disagree about the suit. I know guys that add serious weight using suits. As in well over 100 lbs. just on bench. It depends on if it is single or multi-ply, how well it fits, how practiced he is with it, etc.

What definitely is true is that you can't squat 1000 lbs, suit or no, without being incredibly strong.

batsandgats
03-16-2011, 12:42 PM
well this is what i found out from him at the raw nationals, no suits allowed

USAPL Raw Nationals Overall Best Lifter- Jr Blaine Sumner
Submitted by J.Hernandez on July 24, 2010 - 12:30am.

Blaine Sumner (23yr old Jr 335lb bw) won the USAPL Raw Nationals Men’s SHW Open title last weekend. His lifts were 805 squat (3rd ranked), 430 bench, 705 dead (9th ranked), 1940 total (ranked 5th) which won him Best Male Lifter overall.
Blaine has rewritten the Jr. record book, as he has replaced all the records but the benchpress. They were formally 661 squat, 622 deadlift and 1736 total.

So yeah I was wrong, he added about 200 to his lifts. Still impressive.

aheineken
03-16-2011, 12:44 PM
That kind of size and strength is rare. He's exactly the kind of guy teams will take a chance on in the 5th-7th rounds. If he doesn't get drafted or signed as UDFA, there's always the World's Strongest Man competition.

killxswitch
03-16-2011, 02:03 PM
well this is what i found out from him at the raw nationals, no suits allowed

USAPL Raw Nationals Overall Best Lifter- Jr Blaine Sumner
Submitted by J.Hernandez on July 24, 2010 - 12:30am.

Blaine Sumner (23yr old Jr 335lb bw) won the USAPL Raw Nationals Menís SHW Open title last weekend. His lifts were 805 squat (3rd ranked), 430 bench, 705 dead (9th ranked), 1940 total (ranked 5th) which won him Best Male Lifter overall.
Blaine has rewritten the Jr. record book, as he has replaced all the records but the benchpress. They were formally 661 squat, 622 deadlift and 1736 total.

So yeah I was wrong, he added about 200 to his lifts. Still impressive.

Totally agree. Using gear like that doesn't mean it isn't impressive. You can't just strap on a squat suit and triple your 1 RM. You still have to be damn strong.

It's like with steroids. They don't make terrible players into all pros. They make good players into great players, sure, but there has to be talent there to begin with.

stephenson86
03-16-2011, 02:32 PM
Don't forget the hard work you have to put in.

fenikz
03-16-2011, 02:37 PM
thats terrible squat form, didnt even go all the way down, did 905 right though

CheeseKnuckles
03-16-2011, 05:25 PM
He has a future in strong man competition....

PossibleCabbage
03-16-2011, 06:09 PM
thats terrible squat form, didnt even go all the way down, did 905 right though

I would ask you to show me the person who has great form when doing max-squats, however.

nepg
03-16-2011, 07:19 PM
Has any of these freak, small school nose tackles who always come up some time in March actually done anything besides being signed as a UDFA and then cut the next day?

Todd Herremans, Kevin Boss, Jared Veldheer, Danny Woodhead, Brian Westbrook...

cajuncorey
03-16-2011, 10:07 PM
Todd Herremans, Kevin Boss, Jared Veldheer, Danny Woodhead, Brian Westbrook...

i never knew that they played nosetackles. this is news to me.

killxswitch
03-16-2011, 10:09 PM
i never knew that they played nosetackles. this is news to me.

Westbrook was the shiftiest WCO nosetackle of his generation.

PossibleCabbage
03-16-2011, 10:36 PM
i never knew that they played nosetackles. this is news to me.

But let's be honest. The profile of the nose tackle has increase dramatically in the last several years, since the vogue defense is the 3-4 defense which prioritizes the nose tackle. Former vogue defenses, such as the Tampa 2 and whatever you want to call the Jimmy Johnson/Jim Bates defense didn't really have nose tackles to speak of.

So there might have been a great untapped vein of D2 nose tackles. If nobody was looking for them... we wouldn't have found them.

ElectricEye
03-16-2011, 10:44 PM
I actually agree with that to a certain extent. I think something people don't realize is the nature of the 3-4 is shifting dramatically. The demand for guys who can man the nose and play true five technique has never been higher and we're already seeing some interesting consequences of that; both good and bad.

DBNYDP
03-17-2011, 01:03 AM
People were/are pretty high on Ellis.
The difference between the two isn't as big as people suggest.

eaglesalltheway
03-17-2011, 10:21 AM
After reading this thread, it's become clear to me that I'm the only one who actually listened to the warning.

Not ttrue, I figured it'd be naked dudes or something so I didn't. Well done sir.

*High Five!*

descendency
03-17-2011, 10:25 AM
I actually agree with that to a certain extent. I think something people don't realize is the nature of the 3-4 is shifting dramatically. The demand for guys who can man the nose and play true five technique has never been higher and we're already seeing some interesting consequences of that; both good and bad.

Still, even guys who we call "only 43 UTs" could still play 0 tech better than a lot of guys like Blaine Sumner. I can't guarantee that Blaine won't be better than average, but the guys he played against that were basically NTs won't be playing on Sundays likely.

edit; In other words, talent is talent. This guy just seems to lack it.

ElectricEye
03-17-2011, 11:35 AM
Still, even guys who we call "only 43 UTs" could still play 0 tech better than a lot of guys like Blaine Sumner. I can't guarantee that Blaine won't be better than average, but the guys he played against that were basically NTs won't be playing on Sundays likely.

edit; In other words, talent is talent. This guy just seems to lack it.

I really wasn't referencing Summer, I don't know a thing about the guy and won't pretend that I do outside of assessing what's here. Just saying in general.

cajuncorey
03-17-2011, 12:04 PM
Just some naked male porn star (apparently also named Blaine Sumner) with an erection. Hardly the most scandalous thing on the internet. It's not grotesque or anything, it's just a naked dude.

well i wouldnt call him a star...

batsandgats
03-17-2011, 02:53 PM
Still, even guys who we call "only 43 UTs" could still play 0 tech better than a lot of guys like Blaine Sumner. I can't guarantee that Blaine won't be better than average, but the guys he played against that were basically NTs won't be playing on Sundays likely.

edit; In other words, talent is talent. This guy just seems to lack it.

no small school guy is going against talent that plays on sundays (although there is a clip of him stuffing Woodhead for a loss, but thats not a lineman). The guy has talent, he is just a very raw prospect and lacks technique. I wouldn't expect much from a DT coming from Colorado School of Mines. Coaching is not good at some of the smaller schools, especially at certain positions. He is getting by on talent alone and many say he was the reason why the DE/OLB prospect Marc Scheil was able to get 45 sacks, the d2 record. There were 2 recent d2 defensive tackles that had some success in the league with similar measurables but less strength. Hes a 7th rounder that is a huge project. Some 3-4 team will take a chance on him. If he works out you will have a servicable DT, if not, you wasted a 7th rounder.

PossibleCabbage
03-17-2011, 04:54 PM
well i wouldnt call him a star...

I think if someone pays you for naked pictures, you're a star.

Say When
03-18-2011, 05:05 PM
boner jams '09

Monomach
03-19-2011, 05:44 PM
There is now way that guy is not juicing, he looks like the most obvious steroid user.
FYI - DO NOT google image search for Blaine Sumner!!

Yeah, I was going to say that the drug he was obviously taking was teh ViagrazZz. That image search had more sausage than Oktoberfest.

Anyway...Colorado School of Mines has a football team? That's nice. Do they play against some of the smaller high schools or what?

PossibleCabbage
03-19-2011, 06:52 PM
Anyway...Colorado School of Mines has a football team? That's nice. Do they play against some of the smaller high schools or what?

They're Division II. There's a whole division of football below the Colorado School of Mines.

nepg
03-19-2011, 07:48 PM
I'd take a 7th round flier on this guy to get him on the PS. He has a low ceiling because he's completely maxed out his frame, but if he can learn good technique, he might also have a high floor - making him an interesting contributor.

dannyz
03-19-2011, 07:54 PM
They are discussing him on another site and I warned them but like this one people did not listen and they were played like I was on here.

PossibleCabbage
03-19-2011, 10:14 PM
I'd take a 7th round flier on this guy to get him on the PS. He has a low ceiling because he's completely maxed out his frame, but if he can learn good technique, he might also have a high floor - making him an interesting contributor.

I will never ask anybody who can squat half a ton to do more to fill out his frame. There probably aren't many NFL players as strong as this guy. His problem is just that he needs to learn to play football.

thebow305
03-19-2011, 10:27 PM
Maybe a Chris Hoke type of player. Could find a niche somewhere.

Jakey
03-20-2011, 11:25 AM
That dude has some serious girth.


EDIT: FML pun not intended

Caulibflower
03-20-2011, 03:30 PM
**** my curiosity...

**** mine too.

****. I shouldn't have done it. My eyeeeeeeeessssss....

should've read more of the thread.

Caulibflower
03-20-2011, 03:40 PM
what do some of you 3-4 team fans think of this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_CObtOq1MRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2D38T-0I24s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6m2C...layer_embedded

he seems to have the perfect build and base leg strength to be succeed at the pro level.

Thoughts?

I'd actually like to see him play in a 4-3 and allow him to simply bullrush and collapse the pocket all day. I don't know about him as a nose tackle, but he looks like he could wreak some havok if some coach just turned him loose. Or maybe as a rotational player. He's obviously playing against inferior competition, but he looks totally unblockable on that film you posted. And nobody looks too keen on lining him up when he's coming out of the backfield.

cajuncorey
03-20-2011, 07:37 PM
That dude has some serious girth.


EDIT: FML pun not intended

LMAO LOL HAHAHAHA. TOO GOOD