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Shane P. Hallam
04-13-2011, 08:23 AM
Next one will be all 7 the week of. Remember, don't complain about a pick if you think your team won't do it, not a position of need, etc. Not every team addresses every need. If it is a poor system fit, provide a good analysis to help change my mind! Feedback definitely welcome.

Round 1

1. Carolina (2-14) – Cam Newton QB/Auburn

Looks to be the pick. Big, flashy, upside pick that likely will set this franchise back a long time if it doesn’t work out.

2. Denver (4-12) – Von Miller LB/Texas A&M

Dareus isn’t a slamdunk here. Hearing lots of talk they like Von to be a pass rushing LB who could put his hand down every once in awhile.

3. Buffalo (4-12) – Marcell Dareus DE/Alabama

Don’t buy Gabbert here, and Dareus is great value as a versatile DE/DT for the Buffalo defense.

4. Cincinnati (4-12) – Blaine Gabbert QB/Missouri

I get the feeling Mike Brown will wait to address QB, but passing on Gabbert may be tough

5. Arizona (5-11) – Patrick Peterson CB/LSU

No Miller means they go with Peterson, possibly the best player in this draft. Him and DRC make for a nasty tandem to lock down the secondary for years.

6. Cleveland (5-11) – Robert Quinn DE/North Carolina

May be a bit early, but if they buy Quinn’s medical (high school brain injury), then he could very easily go this high on draft day. Quinn has an incredible first step and is one of the best pass rushers with his hand in the ground.

7. San Francisco (6-10) – Aldon Smith LB/Missouri
Went a different direction here. Get a feeling San Fran will value a pass rusher over a corner and Aldon Smith provides a decent fit.

8. Tennessee (6-10) – Nick Fairley DT/Auburn

A usual pick, but it works. Fairley’s tape is good enough for the Top Ten, and a team like Tennessee would be willing to pull the trigger.

9. Dallas (6-10) – Prince Amukamara CB/Nebraska

If Amukamara falls here, it would be tough to pass on him for Dallas. Adds a pure #1 corner to a team that desperately needs one.

10. Washington (6-10) – AJ Green WR/Georgia

Positional value pushes down Green and Washington gets the spoils out of it. Maybe someone trades up for Green, but he is more likely to fall.

11. Houston (6-10) – JJ Watt DE/Wisconsin

Houston needs pass rush and a 5-tech. Watt has some great athleticism and is a perfect fit for the new system. He has high production and solid motor.

12. Minnesota (6-10) – Da’Quan Bowers DE/Clemson

Medical check-outs are a big concern, he could fall to the late first or second round, but Minnesota has shown the ability to take a chance on medical prospects before. This could be a great steal or a bust in the long run, but worth a chance.

13. Detroit (6-10) – Jimmy Smith CB/Colorado

May not be ideal at 13, maybe the Lions look to move down. Don’t buy them addressing O-line early, and Smith has some huge upside as a #1 corner.

14. St. Louis (7-9) – Julio Jones WR/Alabama

It just appears WRs wll fall on draft day and if Julio falls to 14, the Rams will jump on it. If not, look for a pick like Illinois DT Corey Liuget.

15. Miami (7-9) – Mike Pouncey OG/Florida

Miami will try very hard to trade down from this spot. If not, Pouncey fits the system they want to run and though it is too early at 15 for him, he won’t last much longer.

16. Jacksonville (8-8) – Ryan Kerrigan DE/Purdue

Gene Smith type of player to add a pass rush as well as a solid player against the run. Scouts love Kerrigan and he may go even higher.

17. New England - from Oakland (8-8) – Anthony Castonzo OT/Boston College

With Pouncey gone, Patriots may go for a versatile threat who can play multiple positions around the O-line and is one of the BPAs.

18. San Diego (9-7) – Tyron Smith OT/USC

Tyron should go higher than this, but the board just fell a different way. He provides an instant RT starter for San Diego. Could opt for a DE, but value isn’t great there.

19. New York Giants (10-6) – Corey Liuget DT/Illinois
Could go for O-line, but Corey Liuget is a Top 20 pick and adding DT depth is necessary for the Giants at this point. Another player who could end up Top 15.

20. Tampa Bay (10-6) – Cameron Jordan DE/Cal

If Jordan falls this far, Tampa will get an absolute steal. Offers versatility inside and outside of the defensive line and may very well be gone to a 3-4 team earlier than this.

21. Kansas City* (10-6) – Justin Houston LB/Georgia

Tough selection here. Houston likely better in a 4-3 as a DE, but he did play in a 3-4 last year. Phil Taylor not worth the pick, WR value not great, unsure if KC actually goes offensive line. That leaves a pass rusher across from Hali.

22. Indianapolis* (10-6) – Gabe Carimi OT/Wisconsin

Polian knows he needs offensive lineman and Carimi provides solid value, playing in a similar system at Wisconsin. Nate Solder is likely a better fit for Indy, but they may go with the better tape in Carimi.

23. Philadelphia* (10-6) – Brandon Harris CB/Miami

The Eagles should add some CB depth next to Asante Samuel and Harris is perfect. Not overly big or fast, Harris has great hips and is extremely fluid, providing a great #2 option.

24. New Orleans* (11-5) – Adrian Clayborn DE/Iowa

The Saints did sign Shaun Rogers, which may allow them to go after a base defensive end with this pick. Clayborn had a down senior year, but possess above average athleticism and is a good all around player.

25. Seattle* (7-9) – Jake Locker QB/Washington

Locker should end up in the first round, perhaps higher than this, but if he falls to 25, it is tough to see the Seahawks passing on him. With the accuracy issues, teams will be worried, but will love the intangibles.

26. Baltimore* (12-4) – Muhammad Wilkerson DE/Temple

Baltimore is looking at a few defensive linemen and may want a long term solution next to Ngata and Cody. Wilkerson is a high upside pick who struggled against some better linemen but is a solid fit in Baltimore.

27. Atlanta* (13-3) – Allen Bailey DE/Miami
Getting the feeling Atlanta will trade down to the early 2nd with Minnesota (see below,) and take Allen Bailey there. They seem to like Bailey’s upside and pure athletic ability. His tape is very good as well, tough to see him falling out of Top 50.

28. New England* (14-2) – Cameron Heyward DE/Ohio State

Typical pick, but it is a Patriots type of selection. Heyward provides a 5-technique player who played this position on 3rd downs for Ohio State. Could contribute immediately.

29. Chicago* (11-5) – Christian Ballard DT/Iowa

Jerry Angelo esque pick. Ballard could go higher than people think because he can move around the line and be dominant. Tommie Harris replacement.

30. New York Jets* (11-5) – Stephen Paea DE/Oregon State

Ryan could find a way to use Paea as DE or even at NT in a pinch. His strength and upside exists, but he isn’t always dominant in tough situations.

31. Pittsburgh* (12-4) – Aaron Williams S/Texas

Could use Williams as a Safety or Corner as a replacement for Ryan Clark or a #2 next to Ike Taylor. He is better than most of the members of the secondary on their roster.

32. Green Bay* (10-6) – Nate Solder OT/Colorado

Ted Thompson, best player available, high upside and can be an eventual LT for the team to create bookends of Solder and Bulaga. A great fit for the scheme as well.

Round 2

1. New England - from Carolina (2-14) – Mark Ingram RB/Alabama

Pure value pick, and the Patriots are interested in Ingram. If he falls to the 2nd round, may not fall past 33.

2. Buffalo (4-12) – Martez Wilson LB/Illinois

Bills would have to decide on which pass rusher they prefer, but Wilson’s versatility to be inside or outside could win them over. Pretty raw, but he has Lawrence Timmons type of upside.

3. Cincinnati (4-12) – Ryan Williams RB/Virginia Tech

Williams is a great fit for the Bengals and could even play over Cedric Benson some this year. Huge upside, his freshman tape is too good to overlook.

4. Denver (4-12) – Kyle Rudolph TE/Notre Dame

Denver may want to add more weapons, and doing this with both a blocker and receiver in Kyle Rudolph knocks out two birds with one stone.

5. Cleveland (5-11) – Jonathan Baldwin WR/Pittsburgh

Baldwin could easily go in the first round. Seems like a pick Holmgren could make to find a number 1 wideout for the Browns. Vertical threat for sure.

6. Arizona (5-11) – Brooks Reed LB/Arizona

Possible first rounder gets picked to adjust to Arizona’s system. Isn’t the usual fit for the Cardinals, but his violent tendencies and motor is very attractive.

7. Tennessee (6-10) – Christian Ponder QB/Florida State

Ponder is moving up and up. Only having Rusty Smith as a QB is not good enough, so getting a solid player like Ponder could fit the system. A nice fit for both parties involved.

8. Dallas (6-10) – Derek Sherrod OT/Mississippi State

Another fringe first round pick, Sherrod can play guard or even RT for the Cowboys. Value just too good to pass up for an O-line needy team who couldn’t address it in FA yet.

9. Washington (6-10) – Akeem Ayers LB/UCLA

Fringe first rounder who gives pass rush opposite of Brian Orakpo. Can start as a rotation player who is developed into a more complete guy. If he can learn to shed blocks, he can be very productive.

10. Houston (6-10) – Davon House CB/New Mexico State

House is underrated by some due to his situation, but he can be a legit #1 CB in the NFL. Big upside. Gives a nice tandem with Kareem Jackson to help an ailing secondary.

11. Minnesota (6-10) – Ryan Mallett QB/Arkansas

Get the feeling Minny may trade up from this spot (see Atlanta above,) to grab Mallett in the late first or early 2nd. Spielman type of player with his big arm and upside. They will overlook drug rumors.

12. Detroit (6-10) – Mikel Leshoure RB/Illinois

Detroit could add a compliment RB sooner rather than later with Best’s injury issue and release of Smith. Leshoure fits the bill as a big runner who can also catch the ball a bit.

13. San Francisco (6-10) – Andy Dalton QB/TCU

Dalton shouldn’t be sniffed at this pick, but Harbaugh will want a QB he can develop. Dalton does fit the west coast system and it may be the one place he can succeed. More John Beck than Drew Brees.

14. Denver - from Miami (7-9) – Marvin Austin DT/North Carolina

Denver shouldn’t shy away from Marvin Austin due to motor concerns after the incredible offseason he has had. A great penetrating force needed for the new 4-3.

15. St. Louis (7-9) – Mason Foster LB/Washington

Solid all around player who should be a perfect compliment to Laurinaitis. He glides around the field and gives another great tackling threat for the LBs of the Rams.

16. Oakland (8-8) – Chykie Brown CB/Texas

High upside player that Oakland can buy into. Very athletic but gets beat a lot on film due to poor technique. If he fixes those issues, could be a #1 corner. If not, will bust.

17. Jacksonville (8-8) – Rahim Moore S/UCLA

Good value here and a depth need for the Jaguars. Moore can play center field for the Jaguars and add a new starter to the secondary.

18. San Diego (9-7) – Jabaal Sheard LB/Pittsburgh

Sheard will need some molding to move to a 3-4, but he can likely stand up and utilize his speed rushing skills as a rotation player for the Chargers.

19. Tampa Bay (10-6) – Lance Kendricks TE/Wisconsin

Similar to New Orleans last year, Tampa drafts their TE of the future and gives Winslow one more year to produce. Kendricks takes over as a starter in 2012.

20. New York Giants (10-6) – Orlando Franklin OT/Miami

Good value for a fringe first round talent. Franklin can play many positions along the line, but is suited to take over at RT immediately.

21. Indianapolis* (10-6) – Leonard Hankerson WR/Miami

Gonzalez can’t make it, Collie has major problems, Garcon slowed down. The Colts also need a replacement for Wayne, so they nab another wideout from The U.

22. Philadelphia* (10-6) – Danny Watkins OG/Bayor

Watkins falls a bit, but other than being 27, he has a nasty demeanor and could be an impact player.

23. Kansas City* (10-6) – Phil Taylor DT/Baylor

Some have Taylor going in the first, but he isn’t that highly thought of. KC does need a nose tackle and the Baylor product fits their system well despite and hot and cold motor.

24. New Orleans* (11-5) – Bruce Carter LB/North Carolina

Carter’s injury may scared away a few teams, but a team like New Orleans may be willing to take the risk to get a future starter at the LB position. Carter can rush as well as provide solid pass coverage, both needed for the Saints.

25. Seattle* (7-9) – Ras-I Dowling CB/Virginia

Dowling is a safety/corner tweener who could likely play either for the Seahawks. This is a franchise who may take a risk on the oft injured college player to possibly get an instant starter out of a late 2nd round pick.

26. Baltimore* (12-4) – Torrey Smith WR/Maryland

Smith’s attributes match up with the Ravens preference. Big and very fast. He also is the best player available for a team that leans that way. Smith needs some major coaching, but if he gets it, he is a future franchise wideout.

27. Atlanta* (13-3) – Jerrel Jernigan WR/Troy

The Falcons love Jernigan, and it is pretty legit. They want a jack of all trades weapon for Matt Ryan who can create the big play, something severely lacking in their offense at this point.


28. New England* (14-2) – Jaiquawn Jarrett S/Temple

Patriots type of selection. Jarrett offers some needed safety depth and a player who could definitely replace Meriweather if need be in a pinch. He could also swing some dime corner if asked. They could just opt for Ahmad Black later though.

29. San Diego - from New York Jets* (11-5) – Jarvis Jenkins DE/Clemson

A bit early, but Jenkins is a perfect 5-technique who is very good at the point of attack. Jenkins has a strong frame that can fit in very well with San Diego who should improve their D-line.

30. Chicago* (11-5) – Stefen Wisniewski OG/Penn State

If the Bears want to add to the offensive line, they could actually start inside with a versatile technician in Wisniewski. A fringe 2nd round pick, Wisniewski gives the Bears a tough and smart player who can start immediately.

31. Pittsburgh* (12-4) – James Carpenter OT/Alabama

The Steelers are high on Carpenter who can play RG or RT for them. He is a bit out of shape, but plays better than he looks with a good punch and a nasty demeanor. Big reason for the Crimson Tide’s offensive success.

32. Green Bay* (10-6) – Randall Cobb WR/Kentucky

A solid pass catching threat who can be the eventual replacement for Donald Drive next to Greg Jennings. Cobb will be sticking around the NFL for a long time with his great 3rd down and red zone catching ability.




Round 3

1. Carolina (2-14) – Drake Nevis DT/LSU

Nevis will be on the bubble of the 2nd round and is a great penetrating 3-technique, a huge need for the Panthers.

2. Cincinnati (4-12) – Titus Young WR/Boise State

Young should go in the 2nd, but teams may be scared away by his stature. Has an Ocho Cinco type personality, but also a big playmaker Cincy needs.

3. Denver (4-12) – Kendall Hunter RB/Oklahoma State

John Fox likes having many RBs at his disposal, and Kendall Hunter could be a great complimentary back who could become Ray Rice-esque.

4. Buffalo (4-12) – Colin Kaepernick QB/Nevada

The first round talk to Kaepernick is ridiculous, maybe late 2nd or early 3rd. He is a great fit for the Bills offensive system and can learn a bit behind Fitzpatrick.

5. Arizona (5-11) – Rodney Hudson OG/Florida State

Hudson should go in the 2nd based on his tape and accolades, but he is a bit small for a guard. He is very athletic and though not the typical Cardinals O-lineman, it is a need and could add something new to their line.

6. Cleveland (5-11) – Terrell McClain DT/USF
McClain is moving up boards, can be in a 3-4 or 4-3, but gives Cleveland a 3-technique who may be able to start immediately next to Rubin.

7. Dallas (6-10) – Quinton Carter S/Oklahoma

Dallas continues to address the secondary with a tough playmaker who could rotate in very early in his career. Carter has some issues with instincts, but he has starter upside for an early 3rd round pick

8. New Orleans - from Washington (6-10) – Jurrell Casey DT/USC

Casey is fairly athletic, but he has gotten beat by better offensive linemen. He would add a 3-technique rotation and revamp that devensive line.

9. Houston (6-10) – Will Rackley OG/Lehigh

Rackley is a legit 3rd round pick out of Lehigh who has a nice punch and solid pass protection skills. Gives Houston some offensive line depth.

10. New England - from Minnesota (6-10) – Brandon Burton CB/Utah

The Patriots could add some corner depth in this draft and Burton gives them a high upside threat who could develop into a #2.

11. Detroit (6-10) – Quan Sturdivant LB/North Carolina

Sturdivant is a great fit for the Lions defense with good ability to get after the quarterback but also not a liability in coverage.

12. San Francisco (6-10) – Johnny Patrick CB/Louisville

Patrick is a perfect fit for the San Francisco scheme and could eventually become a starter with his ability to jam at the line.

13. Tennessee (6-10) – Marcus Cannon OG/TCU

Big, athletic lineman to be a swing reserve for Tennessee.

14. St. Louis (7-9) – Taiwan Jones RB/Eastern Washington

Jones is the most explosive runner in the draft and has great vision, but his injury history and size knock him down a peg. Great compliment to SJax.

15. Miami (7-9) – DeMarco Murray RB/Oklahoma

Some view Murray as an every down back, some as a 3rd down back. Miami needs to find a Ronnie/Ricky replacement, and a healthy Murray could be very effective.

16. Jacksonville (8-8) – Edmond Gates WR/Abilene Christian

Jaguars do love the small school prospects and Edmond Gates is a fast but raw wideout who could develop into a #1. He has good size and underrated hands as well, nice pick-up in the 3rd.

17. Oakland (8-8) – Kris O’Dowd C/USC

A bit of a reach due to O’Dowd’s injury history, but he has some great talent. Oakland has a desperate need for the center position.

18. San Diego (9-7) – Denarius Moore WR/Tennessee

Moore is moving up draft boards and he is the big, deep threat that the Chargers covet. Could even go a round higher.

19. New York Giants (10-6) – Daniel Thomas RB/Kansas State

Will Jacobs and Bradshaw be back? If not, a big, physical runner like Thomas would make sense in New York. If his injury history doesn’t scare away a team, should make his way into the 3rd.

20. Tampa Bay (10-6) – Curtis Brown CB/Texas

Real steal here, Curtis Brown will go in the 2nd round but fell a bit due to need/system. Extremely talented player, likely a mid-2nd round pick.

21. Philadelphia* (10-6) – Jordan Todman RB/UConn

Philly is looking hard at runners to compliment LeSean McCoy. Though Todman is similar to him, Todman fits the Andy Reid offense and can be used in the passing game when spelling McCoy. Great vision and hands make Todman a weapon.

22. Kansas City* (10-6) – Jason Pinkston OG/Pittsburgh

Pinkston is a lineman to can play RG or RT and showed he could hold his own against top competition in the Senior Bowl. Will make mistakes, but not be a major liability.

23. Indianapolis* (10-6) – Mark Herzlich LB/Boston College

Herzlich is a risk with his history of Ewing’s Sarcoma, but a potential first round pick two years ago, the Colts get a leader with Herzlich.

24. New Orleans* (11-5) – Marcus Gilbert OT/Florida

Gilbert profiles as a back-up at RT, but he could move inside to guard in a pinch. With no center worth taking, Saints opt for O-line depth.

25. San Diego - from Seattle* (7-9) – Tyler Sash S/Iowa

Bob Sanders isn’t exactly the model of health and Eric Weddle may not be around much longer. Sash is an instinctive player who still needs to develop his skills a bit after leaving early.

26. Baltimore* (12-4) – John Moffitt OG/Wisconsin

Great value, BPA style. Moffitt can play center as well and be effective.

27. Atlanta* (13-3) – Luke Stocker TE/Tennessee

Stocker is the more complete tight end to learn from Gonzalez and eventually replace him. Atlanta does need to add weapons to their offense and Stocker is pretty sure handed in the red zone.

28. New England* (14-2) – Sam Acho LB/Texas

The Patriots would do well to add an intelligent linebacker conversion like Acho. He has shown the tendency to make the move to LB, specifically in a 3-4, and is a perfect fit for what the Pats are looking for.

29. Chicago* (11-5) – James Brewer OT/Indiana

Brewer is a great right tackle prospect who doesn’t have much football experience but huge upside. More upgrades to this offensive line is not a bad thing.

30. New York Jets* (11-5) – Casey Matthews LB/Oregon
Matthews will go earlier than he should and seems like the type of player Rex Ryan can mold into what he wants. Maybe move him to the outside or use him inside, could be intriguing fit.

31. Pittsburgh* (12-4) – Kelvin Sheppard LB/LSU

Big bodied inside linebacker to eventually replace James Farrior. Sheppard is the type of leader on the defense the Steelers want to bring in and make the face of a defense.

32. Green Bay* (10-6) – DeAndre McDaniel S/Clemson

The Packers definitely need some depth at safety and an eventual replacement for Atari Bigby. McDaniel had a down year, but possesses some natural ability.

33. Carolina (compensatory) – DJ Williams TE/Arkansas

Carolina will try to add more weapons for their new quarterback and an H-Back could be intriguing. DJ Williams can find the holes in zones and be lined up in the slot until the Panthers can find more impact wideouts.

IwannatalktoSampson
04-13-2011, 08:29 AM
thats a good lions draft..id be happy with that

Hines
04-13-2011, 08:43 AM
I'd enjoy the Steelers' mock.

DiG
04-13-2011, 09:21 AM
would love to see the Skins come away with those picks. hard to believe they wouldnt try to trade down in either or both spots with some of the talent available for teams wanting to move up but without mocking any trades these picks would be great. phil taylor at the top of rd 2 would be just as good.

SRogers92
04-13-2011, 09:31 AM
Enjoy the Lions' draft. I'd rather have Kerrigan over Smith and I really dislike J. Smith as a prospect altogether, but -- outside of him ... love our 2nd and 3rd round picks and if Smith can pan out, which I doubt he will, than it's an amazing draft.

With that said, don't think the Lions will take him. They seem to be very big on character and Smith has his fair share of concerns.

TheMatriculator
04-13-2011, 09:37 AM
Well, if you (and Scott) are right and Phil Taylor can slide to 55 this would be a great draft for the Chiefs. Personally, I have my doubts. Half the teams in the NFL are playing the 3-4 now and a true NT is key to playing the 3-4 effectively. If Pioli thinks Taylor can be the guy, I don't think he'll wait and if he doesn't, it won't matter.

Houston and Taylor and then we pick up Pinkston in the 3rd round. Sweet!!! OG isn't as big a need but Pinkston is too good to pass up. Nice job.

GoRavens
04-13-2011, 09:53 AM
ehhhhh
1st round: Stephen Paea is a better prospect than Wilkerson.
2nd: Torrey Smith is a stud
3rd: Delone??? he's 5th round material, not 3rd. What a ridiculous pick. Sam Acho should've been the pick.

Paea, Smith, Acho >>>>> Wilkerson, Smith, Carter.
- I expected more from you sir

IwannatalktoSampson
04-13-2011, 10:17 AM
Enjoy the Lions' draft. I'd rather have Kerrigan over Smith and I really dislike J. Smith as a prospect altogether, but -- outside of him ... love our 2nd and 3rd round picks and if Smith can pan out, which I doubt he will, than it's an amazing draft.

With that said, don't think the Lions will take him. They seem to be very big on character and Smith has his fair share of concerns.

Yeah after seeing Camron Jordan was still available, Id rather have the Lions take him. CB isnt the BIGGEST need on the team and i think Jordan would be a monster with Suh, Williams, and KVB. And if you have that kind of pass rush (along with Avril) our CBs are fine. Maybe we even draft I-Dowling in the 2nd.

T-RICH49
04-13-2011, 10:21 AM
uhhh where's a WR for KC?WR is desperate need along with OLB and NT

Nalej
04-13-2011, 10:29 AM
1-17: You're higher on Castonzo than I am. Still a good player that fits a need
1-28: C.Heyward is my fav 5-tech for the Pats. I sure hope he's a Pat come draft day
2-1: M.Ingram is a steal at this point. I like it.
2-28: Not a fan of this pick. You stated why too. I really think the Pats like A.Black in the later rounds. I'd love S.Wisnieski here. Not flashy but a solid starter. Reminds me of the now retired S.Neal. He could replace him from Day 1
3-10: I very well could see a CB in this draft. Butler is on a short leash, Bodden' returning from injury, Arrington over-achieved and Wilhite underperformed.
3-28: Love S.Acho this late. Definitely a steal IMO.

Overall, a very good solid pats mock

49erNation85
04-13-2011, 10:34 AM
Only pick I would be happy is Dalton in the secon.The Aldon Smith pick seems a way bit high IMO.We could go with a more solid pick in Green or even Amukamara.Then maybe a good WR in round 3.

Shane P. Hallam
04-13-2011, 11:58 AM
I figured 9ers fans wouldn't love it, but Aldon Smith COULD go that high.

FlyingElvis
04-13-2011, 12:01 PM
1-17: You're higher on Castonzo than I am. Still a good player that fits a need
1-28: C.Heyward is my fav 5-tech for the Pats. I sure hope he's a Pat come draft day
2-1: M.Ingram is a steal at this point. I like it.
2-28: Not a fan of this pick. You stated why too. I really think the Pats like A.Black in the later rounds. I'd love S.Wisnieski here. Not flashy but a solid starter. Reminds me of the now retired S.Neal. He could replace him from Day 1
3-10: I very well could see a CB in this draft. Butler is on a short leash, Bodden' returning from injury, Arrington over-achieved and Wilhite underperformed.
3-28: Love S.Acho this late. Definitely a steal IMO.

Overall, a very good solid pats mock

I concur. Costonzo and Jarrett are uninspiring. I see the fit w/Costonzo - SR., team capt., work ethic, intelligence and 4 years starting experience - so I really can't knock the pick and wouldn't be upset by it. It's just not sexy. lol

coordinator0
04-13-2011, 12:16 PM
ehhhhh
1st round: Stephen Paea is a better prospect than Wilkerson.
2nd: Torrey Smith is a stud
3rd: Delone??? he's 5th round material, not 3rd. What a ridiculous pick. Sam Acho should've been the pick.

Paea, Smith, Acho >>>>> Wilkerson, Smith, Carter.
- I expected more from you sir

How exactly does Paea fit into our defense? What we need at DE is somebody that can rush the passer, not a player who's main responsibility is to take on blockers/stuff the run. Our pass rush has really suffered since Pryce was let go/deteriorated and we need a guy that has a similar skill-set. I've read that Wilkerson could be this kind of player, although I'm a bit skeptical of that. He's still a FAR better fit than Paea for the Ravens.

Smith is a good second round pick.

Carter... a reach for a player that I doubt we will need. If McGahee is gone I really don't think we will let McClain go and he will be used more as a RB (which is what he wants). McClain is a perfect compliment to Rice, and we don't have to spend a third round pick on him.

yodabear
04-13-2011, 12:33 PM
Julio falling to #14, will make me run around my dorm naked.........

marshallb
04-13-2011, 12:40 PM
That Vikings mock is so god damn sexy. Bowers is quite possibly the most talented player in this draft and it was only a matter of a few weeks ago that he was a likely option at #1 for Carolina. Bowers would be a great upgrade to our defense and would go a long ways towards rebuilding this defense to be among the league's elite again. Sounds like a Spielman type of pick too as he has not been afraid to look past injury issues in cases like Peterson and Harvin among others. I would love Mallett as well as he's my #1 QB and as long as he doesn't have to play right away I would love the fit, also like you said, sounds like a Spielman type of pick. The only reason I wouldn't want him to play right away is that our OL would get him killed, McKinnie protecting his blindside ... OUCH! Otherwise we would be a nice fit, especially if we can retain Rice. Mallett - AP - Rice - Harvin - Shiancoe would be a sick offensive group, it would just be upgrading the OL in either FA or next year's draft to protect him. Even if we would give up a 3rd next year to move up into the late first with someone like Atlanta like you suggested, I would still love it.

If we could then work on the secondary - S in particular - and the OL and adding depth (WR, OLB, DT, TE) the rest of the way, this would be an absolutely perfect draft.

yodabear
04-13-2011, 12:42 PM
Julio falling to #14, will make me run around my dorm naked.........

Ahhhh lets face it I already do this all the time. Julio falling will make me down a bottle of Viagara and then run around the dorm naked. Thats it.

Diehard
04-13-2011, 01:01 PM
2. Denver (4-12) – Von Miller LB/Texas A&M
4. Denver (4-12) – Kyle Rudolph TE/Notre Dame
14. Denver - from Miami (7-9) – Marvin Austin DT/North Carolina
3. Denver (4-12) – Kendall Hunter RB/Oklahoma State


I can see the rationale for both defensive picks, and absolutely agree that Fox will want to add another solid RB to the mix. I'm not sure taking a TE at the top of the second really fits Fox's MO. I'd think we look later in the draft for a blocker who has steady hands.

I am pretty certain we will take a LB somewhere in the first 4 picks. WLB is the only position we are solid at - the bodies we have on the roster to fill the MLB and SLB spots don't fit Fox's typical profile (fast, good zone coverage).

vidae
04-13-2011, 01:13 PM
I love Houston and Taylor, but would prefer the best C on the board in the third. G isn't a need unless Asamoah moves to C, and RT isn't as big of a need as others think.

Great KC mock though.

akvikefan89
04-13-2011, 01:17 PM
Boom or Bust Vikings draft.

wicket
04-13-2011, 02:27 PM
I really like the Casey pick and im okay with the Carter and Clayborne picks but the Gilbert pick rubs me the wrong way, If you go OLine go interior, not tackles, but basically just give the saints sam acho there to be a SLB/Situational passrusher

Del1sle
04-13-2011, 02:27 PM
Great mock for the 'Boys. I'd advise Lawrence Guy for them in the 4th for your next mock. DE is probably the next biggest need.

niel89
04-13-2011, 02:40 PM
How exactly does Paea fit into our defense? What we need at DE is somebody that can rush the passer, not a player who's main responsibility is to take on blockers/stuff the run. Our pass rush has really suffered since Pryce was let go/deteriorated and we need a guy that has a similar skill-set. I've read that Wilkerson could be this kind of player, although I'm a bit skeptical of that. He's still a FAR better fit than Paea for the Ravens.

Smith is a good second round pick.

Carter... a reach for a player that I doubt we will need. If McGahee is gone I really don't think we will let McClain go and he will be used more as a RB (which is what he wants). McClain is a perfect compliment to Rice, and we don't have to spend a third round pick on him.


I agree with you. Wilkerson is a better fit with our system and personnel.

Smith is good.

I don't feel RB is that big of a need, nor is it going to be a great value. From guys that are around that pick I think that Acho (with Kindles health still unknown) or especially Brewer (I think that Gaither is as good as gone) are better value selections there.

I just think that good backs can be found later in the draft, and/or the Ravens use McClain more at RB and pick up another FB later in the draft.

superman8456
04-13-2011, 03:05 PM
Give me Shane Vereen over Todman, but I absolutely love the first two picks.

Draftologist
04-13-2011, 03:57 PM
Bad value in both of the Raiders picks, IMO.

rawdawg
04-13-2011, 04:15 PM
I like the outside the box thinking. Ballard is an interesting fit. Brewer, I don't think is a fit, as Tice likes his OL to be more athletic, but he does have the size Tice likes. Wisnewski is also interesting. If the Bears plan to play him at C from Day 1, it's a decent pick. If Kreutz is coming back (all indications are that he is) then I don't think he's a fit at OG. Again, Tice is a size/athleticism combo guy. Wis is a little small for what Tice wants, IMO.

Pat Sims 90
04-13-2011, 04:33 PM
Decent Bengals Mock. I do agree that Mike Brown won't pass up a QB in the 1st if Newton or Gabbert is on the board.

TACKLE
04-13-2011, 05:04 PM
Like our 1st, really like our 2nd, love our 3rd.

Halsey
04-13-2011, 05:25 PM
"likely will set this franchise back a long time if it doesn’t work out"

People always say this about QBs who go #1. That's true of any player taken #1. It certainly didn't help the Browns that Courtney Brown was a bust.

Abaddon
04-13-2011, 06:54 PM
"likely will set this franchise back a long time if it doesn’t work out"

People always say this about QBs who go #1. That's true of any player taken #1. It certainly didn't help the Browns that Courtney Brown was a bust.

Tim Couch was a far greater setback than Brown was.

BallerT1215
04-13-2011, 07:42 PM
Would love this on draft day for Buffalo

Menardo75
04-13-2011, 09:14 PM
I figured 9ers fans wouldn't love it, but Aldon Smith COULD go that high.

Shane I actually do love this mock for the Niners. I have a feeling San Fran will also value a pass rusher over a CB, and Aldon Smith could end up being one of the best players in the draft. I wouldn't be upset with either him or Quinn in the first.

Scotty D
04-13-2011, 09:16 PM
I wouldn't mind that Lions draft. I'm a fan of Jimmy Smith at #13. I don't really like the Leshoure pick but its realistic.

thebow305
04-14-2011, 01:45 PM
Shame on you Shane, you're better than this.

The Phins aren't going with another OL that high and we certainly don't need another injury-prone RB. Not to mention we have shown little to no interest in Murray thus far to my knowledge.

Jake Locker or Mallett would make more sense for us in the 1st as would D.J. Williams in the 3rd, who we've shown a TON of interest in so far.

Shane P. Hallam
04-16-2011, 07:30 AM
Shame on you Shane, you're better than this.

The Phins aren't going with another OL that high and we certainly don't need another injury-prone RB. Not to mention we have shown little to no interest in Murray thus far to my knowledge.

Jake Locker or Mallett would make more sense for us in the 1st as would D.J. Williams in the 3rd, who we've shown a TON of interest in so far.

The fact that the Dolphins have seemed to show interest in EVERY RB except DeMarco Murray is very interesting to me...

Grizzlegom
04-16-2011, 08:05 AM
The fact that the Dolphins have seemed to show interest in EVERY RB except DeMarco Murray is very interesting to me...

Yea, Murray and Todman are the only two RBs that we've shown little to no interest in for some reason. Both seem to fit what Ireland is looking for (big-play ability) and yet we haven't seen either apart from their pro days and even that, we just sent some scouts, no GM/coaches. They seem to be very inconsistent. They say that durability is a MAJOR factor in taking a RB and then they turn around and show tons of interest in Ryan Williams and Mark Ingram. Granted neither have a history of multiple injuries, but the way they talk, you'd think that they wouldn't draft players with any injury history (Nolan Carroll is the only player they've drafted in their three years that ever missed any significant time with injury in college). At the end of the day though, Murray's injury history consists of multiple different ones so I think its safe to say the lack of interest in him is legitimately a lack of interest as opposed to being sneaky.

CashmoneyDrew
04-16-2011, 11:58 AM
I could kiss you for this Titans draft.

stephenson86
04-16-2011, 12:03 PM
My ***** would slam that mock if it could.

Seasonticketholder
04-16-2011, 02:53 PM
New Orleans Saints

1. Mark Ingram, RB
2. Bruce Carter, LB
3a. Kenrick Ellis, NT
3b. Greg Romeus, DE or Kelvin Sheppard, LB

Iamcanadian
04-16-2011, 03:57 PM
Round 1

1. Carolina (2-14) – Cam Newton QB/Auburn

Don't have a problem with the pick but Gabbert still in the running.
2. Denver (4-12) – Von Miller LB/Texas A&M

Dareus for sure, NFL is a copycat league and Suh's success will guarantee Dareus goes no worse than #2 if Denver passes on a QB.

3. Buffalo (4-12) – Marcell Dareus DE/Alabama

Miller by substraction after Dareus goes #2.

4. Cincinnati (4-12) – Blaine Gabbert QB/Missouri

Brown has always used the draft to fill his QB needs, should be no different this time around.

5. Arizona (5-11) – Patrick Peterson CB/LSU

I agree.

6. Cleveland (5-11) – Robert Quinn DE/North Carolina

Cannot argue with the pick except to say a WR is also a strong possibility.

7. San Francisco (6-10) – Aldon Smith LB/Missouri
Love Smith and you could be right but the Prince is a strong possibility.

8. Tennessee (6-10) – Nick Fairley DT/Auburn

I agree.

9. Dallas (6-10) – Prince Amukamara CB/Nebraska

I don't think he makes it this far so I think a trade down becomes a possibility since there are concerns with Tyron Smith's knees.

10. Washington (6-10) – AJ Green WR/Georgia

If he gets past Cleveland it is certainly possible.

11. Houston (6-10) – JJ Watt DE/Wisconsin

I agree.

12. Minnesota (6-10) – Da’Quan Bowers DE/Clemson

I think he is a early 2nd rounder as of now.

13. Detroit (6-10) – Jimmy Smith CB/Colorado

Too early for my likening, they could trade back and use the extra pick to move back up into round 1 for Smith later in round 1 but not here.

14. St. Louis (7-9) – Julio Jones WR/Alabama

All depends on what Cleveland does.

15. Miami (7-9) – Mike Pouncey OG/Florida

I like the pick.

16. Jacksonville (8-8) – Ryan Kerrigan DE/Purdue

I like the pick.

17. New England - from Oakland (8-8) – Anthony Castonzo OT/Boston College

I'm hearing rumours that there are medical issues which could cause him to drop.

18. San Diego (9-7) – Tyron Smith OT/USC

I like the pick.

19. New York Giants (10-6) – Corey Liuget DT/Illinois

I agree.

20. Tampa Bay (10-6) – Cameron Jordan DE/Cal

I ditto your comment.

21. Kansas City* (10-6) – Justin Houston LB/Georgia

I think he is strictly a 4-3 DE so I'm not crazy about this pick.

22. Indianapolis* (10-6) – Gabe Carimi OT/Wisconsin

Pretty desperate for a LT so it will be Solder vs Carimi, tough call.

23. Philadelphia* (10-6) – Brandon Harris CB/Miami

Hate this pick, he's a nickel back for me.

24. New Orleans* (11-5) – Adrian Clayborn DE/Iowa

Cannot really say much against the pick if he is still a 1st rounder.

25. Seattle* (7-9) – Jake Locker QB/Washington

I agree.

26. Baltimore* (12-4) – Muhammad Wilkerson DE/Temple

Reasonable pick.

27. Atlanta* (13-3) – Allen Bailey DE/Miami

I could see a trade, Rudolph is also a possibility.

28. New England* (14-2) – Cameron Heyward DE/Ohio State

I think they trade out of this pick to a team looking for a QB or maybe to Detroit.

29. Chicago* (11-5) – Christian Ballard DT/Iowa

I can see it happening.

30. New York Jets* (11-5) – Stephen Paea DE/Oregon State

Oh those injuries and health concerns???

31. Pittsburgh* (12-4) – Aaron Williams S/Texas

Don't dislike the pick but if Solder is still on the board, he will definitely be an option.

32. Green Bay* (10-6) – Nate Solder OT/Colorado

OK if Pittsburgh passes on him.

I see Austin going round 1 for sure along with Mallett QB.

Tom Servo
04-16-2011, 04:13 PM
I like that Browns draft but its also scary. Quinn and Baldwin are both boom or bust guys and in Cleveland its usually the latter

jCut
04-17-2011, 12:15 AM
it takes effort to imagine a draft less likely to ever have any chance of making denver better. a project DT? a TE we won't use? a rb in the 3rd? von miller's an atrocious pick, but i can at least see where and why we'd take him. i don't think there's any chance the broncos take rudolph, and to date, the only rationale i've heard is 'zomg valuez'.

sorry bond, i think this is weak for denver.


I completely agree. Taking a SLB at #2 overall is just a bad idea. Especially since he's not the best fit for a 4-3. Rudolph is redundant and unrealistic. Austin may be the best pick, but he has his share of issues. Taking a DT with question marks isn't the best way to address a horrendous defensive front that is making a difficult transition. And while I like Hunter, there are still several OL and DL prospects on the board that could step in and start for Denver. Marcus Cannon, for example, would be a great fit at RT for the Broncos. Why would they pass up on a starter for a change-of-pace back? The value for RBs has severely dropped; they would be better served waiting until the late rounds or FA to address that issue.

Iamcanadian
04-17-2011, 12:27 AM
Don't worry, Denver will never get that kind of draft with 3 first rounders as their 3 picks. Not a chance. Austin is going round 1 and Rudolph could also.

J-Mike88
04-17-2011, 01:16 PM
32. Green Bay* (10-6) – Nate Solder OT/Colorado
32. Green Bay* (10-6) – Randall Cobb WR/Kentucky
32. Green Bay* (10-6) – DeAndre McDaniel S/Clemson

The Packers definitely need some depth at safety and an eventual replacement for Atari Bigby. McDaniel had a down year, but possesses some natural ability.
Solder certainly has that "look" that the Packers like on their O-Line. (See Clifton, Tauscher, Bulaga, Wells, Sitton, Colledge, Spitz).

Cobb is a great addition.

About safety, you forgot about last year's high pick Morgan Burnett, who was an opening-day starter in the win at the Eagles. Of course you forgot about him because he got lost on the Packers packed IR list.
He and Collins are a nice combo, but safety Charlie Peprah really developed into a solid guy back there, starting in the Super Bowl and playing well thruout the playoffs.

They're deep enough with those 3 young guys that Atari Bigby has no future left with this team, I suspect.

roscoesdad27
04-17-2011, 05:49 PM
RAVENS

1) Wilkerson isn't a good fit for what the ravens need at the 5 tech. We already have the bigger run stuffer types, we badly need a 5 tech that can apply pressure and also play 4-3 l.e. when we audible within our hybrid scheme. Cameron Heyward would be ideal.

2) Tremendous pick, doubt he drops that far thou.

3) Moffit is solid but I think we got to look o.t. so we can improve 2 positions by moving last years starter, yanda, back inside to r.g. where he does much better and is more natural....I would much rather have an o.t. like brewer or barksdale there to solidify the line.....maybe look for a pure center in round 4 or 5 to sit a year behind birk...a big, physical corner like jail brown would also be a Target in the 4th.

thebow305
04-17-2011, 11:28 PM
Yea, Murray and Todman are the only two RBs that we've shown little to no interest in for some reason. Both seem to fit what Ireland is looking for (big-play ability) and yet we haven't seen either apart from their pro days and even that, we just sent some scouts, no GM/coaches. They seem to be very inconsistent. They say that durability is a MAJOR factor in taking a RB and then they turn around and show tons of interest in Ryan Williams and Mark Ingram. Granted neither have a history of multiple injuries, but the way they talk, you'd think that they wouldn't draft players with any injury history (Nolan Carroll is the only player they've drafted in their three years that ever missed any significant time with injury in college). At the end of the day though, Murray's injury history consists of multiple different ones so I think its safe to say the lack of interest in him is legitimately a lack of interest as opposed to being sneaky.

Agreed. And I know some coaches like Shanahan don't show interest in certain players as a tactic and end up drafting them interest. We aren't that type of FO. I think there have only been two players on record that since this regime took over that we have drafted without scouting or working out first. If we don't work them out, I truly believe we just aren't interested.

Dam8610
04-19-2011, 09:58 AM
I like that you picked Carimi for the Colts, but I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment that Solder is the "better fit" for the Colts, Carimi is much more in the Tarik Glenn mold. Hankerson is a STEAL at 53, he won't be there, but great value, even if not a position of major need. Herzlich is a HUGE risk at a position of non-need, the Colts have 5 capable LBs and do not need to take on a cancer survivor who ran a 4.9 40. OL, OL, and more OL should be the concentration of this draft for the Colts.

leroyisgod
04-19-2011, 10:09 AM
Great Cowboys 3 round mock. I'll take Sherrod in the 2nd over Tyron Smith at #9 all day long.