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Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 01:11 AM
I've been working on this mock draft for a good bit now. I have to admit, I'm pretty happy with it. I'm sure there are many of you that will disagree with some of my pics, but that is okay. I have done my best to list my arguments for each draft selection, but if you have any further questions or arguments just let me know and I'll try to engage into a nice, educated draft talk with you! As always, comments and constructive criticism is appreciated. If you strongly disagree with anything, please try to provide some sort of argument, so you can help fix my reasoning! This will be my final mock draft until the morning of draft day. Thanks everybody!
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1. A.J. Green, Wide Receiver, Georgia
Here is an exciting change-up. I know a lot of you are probably going to tell me that I am crazy for projecting a wide receiver to get selected first overall, but please keep in mind that we are dealing with the Carolina Panthers here. I think that there is a good chance that they may be "smoke-screening" their interests in quarterback Cam Newton in order to trade down with Buffalo or Cincinnati and grab a second round draft pick. Now, whether or not a deal works out, I strongly believe that the wide out from Georgia is at the top of their draft board. I do not believe that they are ready to give up on Jimmy Clausen and they do not seem to be particularly interested in either of the top defensive tackles. I think they are going to have a tough time deciding whether to draft A.J. Green or Patrick Peterson, but ultimately I believe they are going to go with the guy that can give their young quarterback a legitimate receiving target and keep the defenses backed up so that they can get back to doing what they do best... running the football.

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2. Patrick Peterson, Cornerback, L.S.U.
Okay, so by now you are probably thinking that I am pulling some practical joke by projecting the first two draft picks of the 2011 NFL draft to be a wide receiver and a cornerback. Well, call me crazy, but I just do not see Denver passing up on Patrick Peterson. I know they just signed Champ Bailey to a nice four year deal and I know Marcell Dareus is now staring them straight in the eyes, but I still do not see them letting Patrick Peterson out of their grips. As you probably have already heard, they are doing some serious evaluations on prospects right now, more specifically on the top-end quarterbacks in this draft class. Now either they are not sold on Tim Tebow being their future signal caller or they are trying to get a trade worked out, so a team like Buffalo or Cincinnati can move up and draft one of the quarterbacks. I think that they are trying to bait one of those teams, so that they can move back and draft the guy that they really have their eyes set on... Patrick Peterson. Both Buffalo and Cincinnati have much bigger needs than a cornerback and there is a good chance that either of those teams would draft Marcell Dareus if he was available at their pick if they opted not to go after a signal caller. If Denver really wanted to grab Marcell Dareus, I do not believe that they would be so active by trying to trade down a few spots in the draft.

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3. Cam Newton, Quarterback, Auburn
Finally! A pick that makes sense... well, maybe not to all of you. Regardless, I do not think that I have changed this pick at all in any of my mock drafts, but I could be wrong. Regardless, Cam Newton is an absolute slam dunk for both Chan Gailey and the Buffalo Bills organization. Cam Newton would become the face of the franchise and give hope to many fans and he could be the answer that they need to finally be able to compete with the Jets and the Patriots. The only real alternatives are Marcell Dareus and maybe Von Miller; however, if they continue to neglect the quarterback position then they will soon find themselves playing football in Canada.

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4. Blaine Gabbert, Quarterback, Missouri
I do not really consider this to be a very hard pick. Carson Palmer seems to be very adamant about retiring, so obviously quarterback is going to be the most glaring hole on the roster if he chooses to follow through on his threats. With A.J. Green already off the board, the Bengals would easily benefit the most by going after the signal caller from Missouri. Blaine Gabbert is arguably the best quarterback prospect in the draft according to various different scouts, so it is not a situation where the Bengals would be settling for him by any means.

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5. Von Miller, Outside Linebacker, Texas A&M
This is a pretty perfect pick in my opinion. I would be very surprised if they went in another direction with Von Miller still on the board. I can't remember the last time Arizona had a dominant pass-rusher and with the NFC West being so wide-open, there is a fair chance that drafting a legitimate pass-rusher could give them an advantage over the other NFC West teams and their unseasoned quarterbacks.

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6. Nick Fairley, Defensive Tackle, Auburn
With the Browns switching to an even front this season, they are going to need some substantial help along the defensive line. I realize that Nick Fairley's stock has plummeted quite a bit and the Browns front office looks like they may be trying to take the classy route these days, but at some point risks have to be made. Fairley was arguably the most dominant defensive player in all of college football last season and up until recent weeks he was a strong consideration as the number one overall draft pick; however, things have changed slightly, but he is still the same dominant prospect that he was at the end of the season. Most people are a bit higher on Marcell Dareus simply because he had a great combine and he appears to be the safer pick of the two, but he has never been near as dominant as Nick Fairley was last season. If Fairley can make the transition to the NFL, he could have an impact similar to that of Ndamukong Suh and Kevin Williams. He is simply too promising to let the negatives over-ride the positives.

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7. Marcell Dareus, Defensive End, Alabama
The 49ers top-three biggest needs and my opinion are quarterback, cornerback, and a dominant pass-rusher; however, at this point in the draft there are no quarterbacks worth spending a top-ten pick on. The 49ers could choose to grab Prince Amukamara or Robert Quinn with this pick, but with Marcell Dareus still on the board it makes the decision very hard for them. Ultimately, I think they will look to grab the best player available and bolster their defensive line, which is arguably just as weak as any other unit on their defense. Dareus is heralded as a top-three pick and many consider him a strong option as the first overall draft pick, while both Amukamara and Quinn are a bit more questionable and many are wondering if they are actually the top-ten lock that they were initially considered to be.

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8. Robert Quinn, Defensive End, North Carolina
The Titans have watched both of the top quarterbacks and defensive tackles get selected, so they find themselves in quite a predicament. While they did just draft Derrick Morgan last season in the first round and Jason Babin did step up to make his debut appearance in the Pro Bowl, there is still much uncertainty among their defensive ends. Babin has been a major disappointment thus far in his career and it is hard to imagine that he has found a streak of consistency after one good season. The Titans need to get back to playing dominant defense before they can consider themselves contenders once again. Grabbing the best right defensive end to pair up with the Derrick Morgan could do wonders for this defensive line in the long-run.

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9. Tyron Smith, Offensive Tackle, U.S.C.
With Terence Newman getting older and due to make entirely too much money, Mike Jenkins having a down year following his Pro Bowl season, and Orland Scandrick in a contract year one would think the logical decision would be to grab Prince Amukamara from Nebraska. While that is a very likely, and viable decision for Jerry Jones to make, there is still a huge hole along the Cowboys's offensive line. Taking into consideration that Tony Romo has suffered from a few injuries thus far, the Cowboys may find themselves looking to grab some more protection from him. While Jerry Jones typically likes to find talent along the offensive line in later rounds, last season proved that he needs to reconsider his priorities. Tyron Smith has managed to distance himself from all of the other offensive tackles in this years draft class and his youth and athleticism should be more than enough to attract someone like Jerry Jones. Not to mention, he played right tackle at U.S.C., which should help alleviate his transition into the NFL.

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10. Julio Jones, Wide Receiver, Alabama
Around this time last year, many people felt that Mike Shanahan was strongly considering drafting Jake Locker until of course Jake Locker decided to stay at the University of Washington for his senior season. After trading for Donovan McNabb and then benching him in the same season for Rex Grossman, some people are speculating that Jake Locker may still be an option for Washington even after his sup-par senior season. However, there is a good chance that Washington may feel comfortable enough enduring with Rex Grossman as their starter next season and with holes all over their team, it might be more beneficial to look at bolstering another position in need in the first round. The Redskins could grab some help along the defensive front or they could try adding some more firepower to their lackluster offense by adding Julio Jones.

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11. Justin Houston, Outside Linebacker, Georgia
I imagine that this pick will create a lot of buzz from you guys. Again, I promise that I have not gone completely crazy and I have sound reasoning, or at least I feel that I have sound reasoning for this pick. The Houston Texans are looking to install a odd front this season and outside of Connor Barwin, there appears to be no pass-rushers on the roster. Justin Houston has been a very questionable prospect throughout this entire off-season, but he opened everybody's eyes when he compiled a phenomenal performance at the NFL Combine. Wade Phillips had a lot of success drafting DeMarcus Ware a few years ago, and Justin Houston is remarkably very similar to him in many ways. Not to mention Todd Grantham who was Justin Houston's defensive coordinator also served as Wade Phillips defensive line coach before taking that job at Georgia and he was apart of the inaugural coaching staff for the Houston Texans under Dom Capers. It's not so crazy to believe that Wade Phillips has talked to Todd Grantham quite a bit about Justin Houston already, and given his size, athleticism, and familiarity with a similar defensive scheme, Justin Houston might just find himself in a similar position that Tyson Alualu found himself in last season.

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12. Jake Locker, Quarterback, Washington
Leslie Frazier has made it no secret that he wants a rookie to run his offense this up-coming season. Given Jake Locker's potential and the Vikings switching to a pro-style offense, this pick is seemingly becoming much easier to predict. Jake Locker could find himself in the best position out of all of the quarterbacks drafted in the first round this season with the Vikings looking to become more aggressive in the ground game.

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13. Prince Amukamara, Cornerback, Nebraska
Some people said that the Lions played themselves out of a decent draft pick this season by winning those last few games, but I strongly disagree. This is a game about winning and purposefully losing a couple of "meaningless" games to grab a top prospect who may or may not pan out is never a smart move. Regardless, the Lions luck out this season, because they still manage to grab a top-ten prospect who should be able to come in an make an impact right away in their secondary.

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14. Aldon Smith, Defensive End, Missouri
At this point in the draft process many people are debating whether or not the Rams should take a defensive tackle like Corey Liuget or a defensive end like Aldon Smith or Da'Quan Bowers. The Rams probably did not initially account for Da'Quan Bowers to fall to them in the draft, but after missing practically the entire off-season, many teams have become very skeptical over Bowers's knee. Luckily for the Rams they already have a pretty dominant left defensive end in Chris Long, so they do not have to settle with taking a guy with so many injury concerns like Bowers. Getting a defensive tackle could be very beneficial also, but there are not many defensive tackles in this draft that project to be potential top-flight guys. Aldon Smith, however, does have great potential to become a top-flight guy and fortunately for him, the right defensive end position is a much more premier position than the defensive tackle position. Not to forget, Steve Spagnuolo loves the idea of having two dominant defensive ends.

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15. Ryan Mallett, Quarterback, Arkansas
A lot of people are projecting the Dolphins to grab Mark Ingram in the draft and it has been dubbed by many as one of the only "sure things" in this draft. I, however, have to disagree. Ronnie Brown was once regarded as a feature back in this league, unfortunately, injuries have taken a toll on him. Although Mark Ingram appears to be completely healthy, his little knee injury last year, could be just enough to scare the Dolphins away from grabbing him in the first round. They have spent a lot of time recently with Ryan Mallett and they are still kicking themselves for not drafting Matt Ryan three years ago. Chad Henne has been a disappointment thus far and the Dolphins appear to be heading down a road without any direction on the offensive side of the ball. Ryan Mallett has the talent to be a top quarterback in this draft, but there are so many off the field concerns that it has caused him to slip quite a bit. Luckily for him, the Dolphins are desperate enough to take a gamble on him in the first round.

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16. Ryan Kerrigan, Defensive End, Purdue
Gene Smith prides himself on finding high character, high motor guys. While Da'Quan Bowers is still on the board and would fit perfectly in the Jaguars's scheme, they may be a bit reluctant due to his injury concerns and having only one solid season under his belt. On the other hand, Ryan Kerrigan is a perfect Gene Smith type of player and he could fit in perfectly with their youthful defensive line. Aaron Kampmann is coming off of an injury and he is not getting any younger. It would be beneficial for them to go ahead and grab an understudy who could eventually become a solid left defensive end in this league. The Jaguars also have many other holes all the way from their signal caller to their secondary, but unfortunately for them there are no other players worthy of the sixteenth overall draft pick.

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17. J.J. Watt, Defensive End, Wisconsin
New England has quite a few holes between both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball this off-season. Luckily for them, they have quite a few high draft picks this to fill those needs. Having such a luxury, means that they can simply grab the best player available to fill any of their needs. J.J. Watt is considered by some to be a top-fifteen prospect and he projects to be one of the better 3-4 defensive ends in this draft. He also has tremendous size, which is an important trait that Bill Belichick looks for in his players.

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18. Cameron Jordan, Defensive End, California
The Chargers are quite fond of grabbing local stars and plugging them into their system. Cameron Jordan projects to be a great choice for them as they had issues along their defensive front last season. Jordan also comes from a great NFL pedigree, which is very intriguing considering recent success from other players with similar backgrounds.

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19. Corey Liuget, Defensive Tackle, Illinois
New York is in a weird position where their biggest need in a linebacker would be too much of a reach at this point of the first round. Their two biggest needs outside of a linebacker are amongst both the offensive and defensive lines. Anthony Castonzo makes a lot of sense, given that his connections to the Giants; however, the Giants are a team that is constantly building their defensive line and with both Barry Cofield and Mathias Kiwanuka set to leave, grabbing some more talent along the defensive line appears to be much more appealing.

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20. Da'Quan Bowers, Defensive End, Clemson
Perhaps the biggest faller on draft day will be Da'Quan Bowers. Had he been healthy and put up a few decent performances this off-season, there is a good chance that he could have been the first player selected in the entire draft. Tampa Bay's desperation for a defensive end leads them to be the first team that just cannot say no to the idea of picking up this talent. Although they may be a bit skeptical at first after drafting Gaines Adams from Clemson just a few years back, they absolutely cannot pass up on getting a great value in a player of this caliber.

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21. Phil Taylor, Defensive Tackle, Baylor
There are a couple of different routes that the Chiefs could take. They could grab an offensive tackle or an outside linebacker, but they are also still in the process of completing their defensive line with the glaring hole left at defensive tackle. Phil Taylor rose up draft boards this off-season and with the depth at offensive tackles and pass-rushers in the later rounds, the Chiefs may be better suited to grab a defensive tackle to help out their high investments in Tyson Jackson and Glenn Dorsey.

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22. Anthony Castonzo, Offensive Tackle, Boston College
Peyton Manning is getting older and there is a possibility that his body is not going to be able to sustain the hits that the has been taking throughout his career. Grabbing an offensive tackle should help alleviate the woes along the offensive line and help protect Bill Polian's golden boy. The Colts could also look to grab a defensive tackle, because their interior line is simply atrocious or they could go the route of grabbing a nice wide receiver. However, they are lucky enough to have one of the best signal callers in the league running their team and fortunately for them, they will be able to win games solely on his arm and decision making ability.

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23. Jimmy Smith, Cornerback, Colorado
With Ellis Hobb's tragic injury last season, the Eagles took a hit in their secondary and it's no secret that they are contemplating on spending a high round pick on a cornerback. Jimmy Smith has tremendous upside, but he will fall due to questionable character issues; however, the Eagles have shown time and time again that they are a very forgiving team and they will often overlook character concerns and try to get the most out of their players regardless. The Eagles could try to grab an offensive tackle like Gabe Carimi or perhaps a linebacker, but at this point in the draft, Jimmy Smith's upside is too great to ignore.

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24. Akeem Ayers, Outside Linebacker, U.C.L.A.
The Saints could look to fill needs along their defensive line or perhaps consider a runningback like Mark Ingram with their first pick in the draft. Mark Ingram would be a great fit, but the Saints are hoping to keep Reggie Bush, and they still have Pierre Thomas and rookie standout Chris Ivory and for a team that passes so much, it is hard to imagine where Ingram would fit into that backfield. They also managed to sign Shaun Rogers, so their defensive tackle woes have decreased significantly. The only remaining areas for them to attack would be the defensive end position where a player like Adrian Clayborn would fit into perfectly or the strong-side outside linebacker position where a player like Akeem Ayers would project nicely in their scheme. I believe Adrian Clayborn's question marks will ultimately be the deciding factor for them along with their desperate need of a strong-side linebacker. Akeem Ayers should benefit greatly in Gregg Williams's scheme which would allow him to fully utilize all of his pass-rushing abilities.

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25. Adrian Clayborn, Defensive End, Iowa
If you look at the types of defensive ends that Pete Carroll used in his U.S.C. defenses, you will quickly realize that Adrian Clayborn would have been a perfect fit for his schemes. With all of the top quarterbacks gone, there is a possibility that Seattle could reach for a guy like Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, or Colin Kaepernick, but it appears that they may still have a shot in the second round to grab atleast one of those guys, so they would be better benefited by not reaching and adding some new meat to their defensive line with thei first round pick.

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26. Martez Wilson, Inside Linebacker, Illinois
With Ray Lewis hinting at retirement after next season, the Ravens would be benefited by going ahead and grabbing his heir apparent and letting him learn a few tricks from the legendary linebacker. Martez Wilson has everything that you would look for in a linebacker physically; however, his play is a bit questionable, but many argue that he was not used properly. Throwing him into the Ravens defense should allow him the ability to showcase his talents and having him lining up next to Ray Lewis should allow him to make some plays for their defense. The Ravens could also look to grab a wide receiver or a defensive lineman, but getting the top inside linebacker in the draft should prove to be a great move if Ray Lewis does indeed plan to follow through on his retirement talks.

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27. Gabe Carimi, Offensive Tackle, Wisconsin
The Falcons find themselves in a tricky position, because their biggest need is by far a defensive end; however, at this point there are not many defensive ends left worthy of first round consideration. The Falcons could look to improve their receiving corps. or perhaps take a runningback like Mark Ingram to spell Michael Turner and eventually take over. They could also look take a look at cornerbacks like Aaron Williams or Brandon Harris. Ultimately, the Falcons may be better benefited by attacking the offensive line in the first round. With Tyson Clabo, Harvey Dahl, and Justin Blalock all up for new contracts, it is highly unlikely that the Falcons will be able to walk away retaining all three of them after this off-season. With Tyson Clabo coming off of a Pro Bowl year, he is the most likely offensive lineman not to be under contract by the Falcons next season. Gabe Carimi projects as a great right tackle and he has the ability to move into the inside if absolutely needed similarly to Tyson Clabo.

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28. Mike Pouncey, Offensive Guard, Florida
The Patriots again find themselves picking the best player available. Mike Pouncey looks to be the best offensive guard in the entire draft and with the success of his brother from last season, he should have plenty of teams calling him up at this point of the draft. The Patriots have a few holes on their offensive line, particularly on the interior and Pouncey could prove to be a great choice with his versatility to play center if absolutely needed. Mark Ingram is probably hard for them to pass up at this point, but with the first pick of the second round and the lack of a need for a runningback between the next four picks, the Patriots would be much wiser to take Pouncey who would probably be swiped up in the next few picks.

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29. Derek Sherrod, Offensive Tackle, Mississippi State
Chicago needs to grab some help along the offensive line if they plan on keeping Jay Cutler alive next season. A tackle or a guard should both be strong considerations at this point with more emphasis on a guard; however, New England just swiped up Mike Pouncey, so the Bears should look to grab a more versatile player in Derek Sherrod who could be plugged into just about any position along the offensive line.

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30. Cameron Heyward, Defensive End, Ohio State
The Jets could look to grab a wide receiver with both Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards set to become free agents. They could also look to grab an outside linebacker to help terrorize opposing quarterbacks, but Cameron Heyward appears to be a slightly more valuable option as there are pass-rushers that will be available in later rounds and their defensive line definitely could use a youthful make-over.

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31. Brandon Harris, Cornerback, Miami
Pittsburgh's secondary got exposed in the playoffs and they can no longer allow for it to be a liability. Brandon Harris projects to be a great fit for their defense and he should be able to come in and start right away. Harris is one of the better tacklers amongst cornerbacks this season, so that should be an added bonus for a defense that prides themselves on physicality. The Steelers could also afford to grab some help along the offensive line, but unfortunately for them, they really need help along the interior offensive line and after Mike Pouncey, there aren't really any guards left for consideration in the first round.

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32. Brooks Reed, Outside Linebacker, Arizona
The Packers's biggest need is an outside linebacker opposite of Clay Matthews. Brooks Reed is looking to be the next best option and he meets the hair length requirement that Packers's have for their linebackers. Their front office seems to really be sold on this guy, I don't really see them going in another direction unless a specific player fell to them or if Brooks Reed got drafted higher than 32. One thing is for certain though, if they do draft Brooks Reed, someone will have to come up with a creative nickname for that defense.

Heisman
04-16-2011, 01:15 AM
Love that draft for the Vikings. But you said we're switching to a pro-style offense?

What, did you think we ran the spread last year? :p

Brothgar
04-16-2011, 01:19 AM
Prince Amukamara :drool:

On another note I just don't see Justin Houston going over Amukamara for the Texans.

akvikefan89
04-16-2011, 01:29 AM
I think Locker is a very realistic pick for the Vikings, but it's hard to see Amukamara pass by #12...

49erNation85
04-16-2011, 01:49 AM
A very interesting pick for Sf and I love it!Watching Dareus play against my Gators have been hurt.He is always around the QB and is freaking huge,he should be as good as Suh if not better.So him landing in SF would be sick!We also need a big help there at DE though I'm not sure his strength there but if hes willing to its all good.Nice pick again I must say!

Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 01:56 AM
Love that draft for the Vikings. But you said we're switching to a pro-style offense?

What, did you think we ran the spread last year? :p

The Viking are moving away from the West Coast offense from what I've heard and using a run-heavy, play-action style of offense.

Heisman
04-16-2011, 02:38 AM
The Viking are moving away from the West Coast offense from what I've heard and using a run-heavy, play-action style of offense.

You heard correctly, but they're both pro-style offenses... because they're playing in the pros...

wicket
04-16-2011, 02:55 AM
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24. Akeem Ayers, Outside Linebacker, U.C.L.A.
The Saints could look to fill needs along their defensive line or perhaps consider a runningback like Mark Ingram with their first pick in the draft. Mark Ingram would be a great fit, but the Saints are hoping to keep Reggie Bush, and they still have Pierre Thomas and rookie standout Chris Ivory and for a team that passes so much, it is hard to imagine where Ingram would fit into that backfield. They also managed to sign Shaun Rogers, so their defensive tackle woes have decreased significantly. The only remaining areas for them to attack would be the defensive end position where a player like Adrian Clayborn would fit into perfectly or the strong-side outside linebacker position where a player like Akeem Ayers would project nicely in their scheme. I believe Adrian Clayborn's question marks will ultimately be the deciding factor for them along with their desperate need of a strong-side linebacker. Akeem Ayers should benefit greatly in Gregg Williams's scheme which would allow him to fully utilize all of his pass-rushing abilities.


I really dislike Ayers as a prospect and think he is mroe of a midround prospect so I dont like the pick but the position makes a lot of sense. The thing Im struggling with more is you citing in the explanation that Ingram would be a great fit whilst the Saints would literally be the worst fit in the entire NFL schemewise for Ingram.

Id want Heyward given what you have left on the board, good layout though.

Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 10:43 AM
You heard correctly, but they're both pro-style offenses... because they're playing in the pros...

Yeah, my bad. I used the wrong terminology.

I really dislike Ayers as a prospect and think he is mroe of a midround prospect so I dont like the pick but the position makes a lot of sense. The thing Im struggling with more is you citing in the explanation that Ingram would be a great fit whilst the Saints would literally be the worst fit in the entire NFL schemewise for Ingram.

Id want Heyward given what you have left on the board, good layout though.

You know, I don't really agree with you on the Ingram issue. First of all, I don't think the Saints are going to take him, but runningbacks are one of the least scheme-dependent positions in the entire league. I'm curious as to why you think he would not fit their scheme if they did decide to go that direction.

coordinator0
04-16-2011, 10:55 AM
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26. Martez Wilson, Inside Linebacker, Illinois
With Ray Lewis hinting at retirement after next season, the Ravens would be benefited by going ahead and grabbing his heir apparent and letting him learn a few tricks from the legendary linebacker. Martez Wilson has everything that you would look for in a linebacker physically; however, his play is a bit questionable, but many argue that he was not used properly. Throwing him into the Ravens defense should allow him the ability to showcase his talents and having him lining up next to Ray Lewis should allow him to make some plays for their defense. The Ravens could also look to grab a wide receiver or a defensive lineman, but getting the top inside linebacker in the draft should prove to be a great move if Ray Lewis does indeed plan to follow through on his retirement talks.

Ehh I don't think this is a very good pick. Wilson isn't the type of guy that's going to be able to replace Lewis. I realize that nobody will but I don't see Wilson ever leading a defense, he's more of a complimentary piece. I've read he might be better off as a 3-4 OLB, and his fit with us is questionable since he would be relied on in coverage which might be his worst asset. Wilson is probably a reach in the first as well, one of the three offensive lineman going after our pick would be a bit more realistic.

Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 11:16 AM
Ehh I don't think this is a very good pick. Wilson isn't the type of guy that's going to be able to replace Lewis. I realize that nobody will but I don't see Wilson ever leading a defense, he's more of a complimentary piece. I've read he might be better off as a 3-4 OLB, and his fit with us is questionable since he would be relied on in coverage which might be his worst asset. Wilson is probably a reach in the first as well, one of the three offensive lineman going after our pick would be a bit more realistic.

Yeah, I feel ya'. You make a lot of good points, but I've heard some rumors that the Ravens really like Martez Wilson. Given how the draft worked out up until this point, I just felt he was the best suited pick from what I had available in my mock.

They could go tackle, but from what I've heard Marschal Yanda is moving to tackle if they don't re-sign Jared Gaither.

coordinator0
04-16-2011, 12:03 PM
Yeah, I feel ya'. You make a lot of good points, but I've heard some rumors that the Ravens really like Martez Wilson. Given how the draft worked out up until this point, I just felt he was the best suited pick from what I had available in my mock.

They could go tackle, but from what I've heard Marschal Yanda is moving to tackle if they don't re-sign Jared Gaither.

Yeah it's definitely a possibility since your mock didn't fall that well for the Ravens, and he should be versatile enough for us to take a hard look at.

Yanda played RT last season for us with Gaither out, and he was very solid there (he's great at RG). If we wish to keep Oher at LT then I don't think OT is a viable first round pick, but I want to move him back to RT so he and Yanda can dominate the right side again. Pouncey would make even more sense in that scenario though, he could play RG for us and then we can move him to C next season (if we feel like he can play there). The OL needs to be addressed in some way this off-season, last year it might have been the worst unit on the team.

Seasonticketholder
04-16-2011, 02:48 PM
I really do not think this is difficult. The Saints will not take Akeem Ayers over Mark Ingram. They would not take Ayers over Cameron Heyward. I would not even be surprised if they didn't take him over Brooks Reed.

Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 02:49 PM
Yeah it's definitely a possibility since your mock didn't fall that well for the Ravens, and he should be versatile enough for us to take a hard look at.

Yanda played RT last season for us with Gaither out, and he was very solid there (he's great at RG). If we wish to keep Oher at LT then I don't think OT is a viable first round pick, but I want to move him back to RT so he and Yanda can dominate the right side again. Pouncey would make even more sense in that scenario though, he could play RG for us and then we can move him to C next season (if we feel like he can play there). The OL needs to be addressed in some way this off-season, last year it might have been the worst unit on the team.

I agree. I don't think the Ravens particularly have any pressing needs that absolutely have to be attacked in the first round this year. I think they can find themselves in a comfortable position to draft a WR, OL, DL, LB, or DB at pick 26.

Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 02:50 PM
I really do not think this is difficult. The Saints will not take Akeem Ayers over Mark Ingram. They would not take Ayers over Cameron Heyward. I would not even be surprised if they didn't take him over Brooks Reed.

Thank you for your logical input and reasoning!

Seasonticketholder
04-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Thank you for your logical input and reasoning!

Well, after 100 different mocks, you get a little exhausted with giving long explanations. And I know that's not fair to you, so I offer my apologies. But the Saints are very high on Mark Ingram. I know they also like Adrian Clayborn and Cameron Heyward as well as some other guys who are already off the board. I do not share wicket's opinion that Ayers is a bad player. But I have not gotten any sense that he's high on the Saints board. And here's the thing. I am not the biggest fan of Clayborn, and if you see any of my posts from last month, that becomes clear. But I know the Saints do like him so I am trying to come around to the idea. I also know they like Brooks Reed and feel he can be the pass rushing specialist they are seeking though it is unclear whether or not he would be a situational DE or a SLB.

Master Exploder
04-16-2011, 06:31 PM
I respect your kindness and your opinion.

I initially had a very hard time with this pick. I like Cameron Heyward a lot, especially to the Saints, but I feel that Clayborn is a much better fit. Ingram is also somebody that I liked a lot here, but as I said in my explanation, they already have 3 decent runningbacks and for a team that doesn't run a whole lot, I think it would be hard for them to spread the carries. Not to mention, Chris Ivory looks like he could be a very nice hidden gem and Pierre Thomas is a very reliable back-up, and if I remember correctly they locked him up with a new contract recently. I found myself caught between Clayborn and Ayers the most. Now, I have heard that the Saints are considering Ayers, but I do admit that the main reason I chose him here was because I feel like he is a near identical representation in what Gregg Williams looks for in his SLB's.

I may be wrong, but I just felt given his youthfulness and his frame that he's going to go a lot sooner than most think, despite his mediocre pre-draft performances.

Pat Sims 90
04-16-2011, 09:08 PM
Gabbert is a solid pick.

Master Exploder
04-17-2011, 05:05 PM
Gabbert is a solid pick.

I agree. Although, I had a tough time with this pick, because something tells me that the Bengals aren't going to go QB. Regardless of the situation.

thebow305
04-17-2011, 05:36 PM
Dude, that is just silly to have Dareus fall that far. If somehow Denver decided to pass, Buffalo or Cleveland would definitely scoop him up.

roscoesdad27
04-17-2011, 06:04 PM
Horrible ravens pick....Wilson is a Ted/Thumper ilb and Lewis is a Mike/feature ilb....Wilson simply doesn't have the instincts to play feature and besides were actually set at ilb with mcclain playing ted, Lewis playing feature and gooden the likely feature of the future.

Cameron Heyward please

Master Exploder
04-17-2011, 09:19 PM
fwiw, if denver moves down, i believe they're likely targeting miller, not peterson. as much as that hurts to type.

That is certainly possible, but I think that it is a bit unlikely. 4-3 SLB in the top 5? I guess Seattle did it...

Dude, that is just silly to have Dareus fall that far. If somehow Denver decided to pass, Buffalo or Cleveland would definitely scoop him up.

Doubt it. I could see Cleveland being a strong argument, but if Cam Newton is available, I think Buffalo will go in that direction.

Horrible ravens pick....Wilson is a Ted/Thumper ilb and Lewis is a Mike/feature ilb....Wilson simply doesn't have the instincts to play feature and besides were actually set at ilb with mcclain playing ted, Lewis playing feature and gooden the likely feature of the future.

Cameron Heyward please

Well, I completely disagree with that. Martez Wilson definitely has the ability to play mike linebacker. Just because he came from a defensive end background doesn't mean he should automatically be considered a thumper... the kid has the talent and the physical ability to play a premier position in this league.