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04-25-2011, 02:34 PM
*Draft Eve Update*

Summaries at the end...



1 Panthers – Cameron Newton QB Auburn*

Panthers at #1 overall need a franchise changing player, Newton will certainly be that.

2 Denver Broncos – Von Miller OLB Texas A&M

Dareus imo projects as a solid but unspectacular player. Miller if used correctly is a sure fire superstar. SLB and a pass rush specialist on passing downs.

3 Buffalo Bills – Marcell Dareus DT Alabama*

Consolation is Dareus for the leagues worst run defense. I’d prefer Gabbert but apparently his stock is down.

4 Cincinnati Bengals – AJ Green WR Georgia*

Stubborn ass M.Brown appears dead set on a skill position guy other than QB here. Soooo...

5 Arizona Cardinals – Robert Quinn OLB/DE UNC*

Good potential for a trade here but if they truly go BPA it should be Peterson but Quinn is likely the second best rusher and is a scheme fit. He's arguably worthy of this spot depending on how you figure his senior season would have gone. Peterson looks more like a luxury pick with DRC and Toler in place-especially since Toler might have outplayed DRC last season. Quinn is righting his stock after the impressive pro day and can fill their greatest need after QB.

Browns trade #6 to the Dallas Cowboys for their #9 and #71
6 Dallas Cowboys - Patrick Peterson CB/FS LSU*

Been hearing rumors of this trade and I’m starting to think it’s possible.

7 San Francisco 49ers – Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri*

Gabbert's raw skills and intelligent mindset, approach to the game, are good starting points for a good coach to build from.

8 Tennessee Titans – Nick Fairley DT Auburn*

Will require close monitoring but too talented too pass.

Dallas Cowboys trade #9 to Browns for their #6 and also give up their 3rd round pk #71
9 Cleveland Browns - J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin*

After being pegged as strictly a 5 tech I’ve been hearing now some analysts figuring him just as capable in an even front. Has always been an ideal 43 LE imo who fits in well with the chemistry of the Browns.

10 Washington Redskins – Julio Jones WR Alabama*

Skins would love to trade down but I don’t see anyone willing to come up. I think it would be hard for the Skins to pass Jones for an Aldon Smith-maby a Cam Jordan but if a QB is targeted with their 2nd pick it would leave FA and mid to late options for a much needed WR.

11 Houston Texans - Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska

Prince is a natural leader and captain caliber player who is probably too good for the Texans to pass even after going Jackson in the first last draft.

12 Minnesota Vikings - Cameron Jordan DE/DT California

It would take brass to take Locker or Mallett here. Once the CBA is straightened out the Vikings will probably need a new LE. Jordan could also be viewed as the successor to K.Williams inside or, given his ability as a run defender, start alongside him. His versatility would give him the nod over Liuget. A.Smith imo is just not as sure a prospect as Jordan/Liuget.

13 Detroit Lions – Tyron Smith OT USC*

Lions can’t really pass up a possible future long term starter at LT.

14 St. Louis Rams – Corey Liuget DT Illinois*

Generating quite a bit of buzz and might go higher than this.

15 Miami Dolphins - Jake Locker QB Washington

Dolphins might pull off a surprise with this pick. All the interest in Mallett, in a way, shows how desperate the Fins really are for a QB. Not that Mallett is garbage but his weaknesses are exactly the same as Henne’s, if not worse-mobility and decision making, especially in the red zone. Daboll was one of the most interesting play callers last season and I can imagine some crazy stuff involving Locker.

16 Jacksonville Jaguars - Aldon Smith DE/OLB Missouri*

I’ve read some things that say Gene Smith is preparing the defense for an eventual switch to a 3-4 defense after this year. Smith is the kind athlete/talent that could make a switch and he’s also regarded as having more upside and natural talent than Kerrigan so he might get the nod here.

17 New England Patriots – Ryan Kerrigan DE/OLB Purdue

Hard to project what direction BB will go or what he might think of Kerrigan as a OLB vs Heyward as a DE but Kerrigan fits the profile of previous BB type picks and helps the area of greatest need for the team.

18 San Diego Chargers - Cameron Heyward DE Ohio State

Remember that report early in the post season that the Chargers would draft Heyward? ..oops.

19 New York Giants - Mike Pouncey OC/G Florida

If Minn, Miami and NE pass, certainly the Giants won’t.

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA*

With Morris wanting to use more 3-4 looks to go along with the base 43 I can’t see a prospect that fits as well in that scheme as Ayers. As for Bowers, if he’s still on the board, I’m not sure the reward outweighs the risk. Can the Bucs afford to invest in another first round defensive lineman who may not light it up as expected? Or pay big money to another guy with (potentially) chronic knee problems?

21 Kansas City Chiefs - Phil Taylor NT Colorado

The timing of the foot issue story looks questionable. NYJ fo guy came out and said he doesn’t think it’s an issue…who knows? But the character concerns are overblown and he looks like a solid fit in KC.

22 Indianapolis Colts – Nate Solder OT Colorado

Raw and not ready to step in but on the Colts might not have to. Develops for a year and starts in 2012.

23 Philadelphia Eagles – Anthony Costanzo OT/G Boston College

Stock seems to be taking a dip of late but the Eagles are probably interested in shoring up the right side of the line after benching Justice late.

24 New Orleans Saints - Da’Quan Bowers DE Clemson*

Unless Bowers knee is finished the Saints can’t really get any better than this pick. DC Williams prefers the traditional 43 base ends to the smaller quicker types and he fits. The risk/reward on him finally sways up about here to the Saints.

25 Seattle Seahawks – Jimmy Smith CB Colorado

Carroll is the kind of coach that could buy into a guy like Smith. Rather than reaching for an offensive lineman or QB the Seahawks try for a steal here with Smith. If you ask me, though, he’ll bust. Reminds me of another Jimmy. Williams of Virgina Tech who flamed out for the Falcons.

26 Baltimore Ravens – Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin

Despite analysts criticizing his athletic ability, Carimi had the best senior season of the OTs and might even be able to play on the left side at the pro level.

27 Atlanta Falcons - Len Hankerson WR Miami

A slight reach and I almost projected them to trade down-in any case I see them targeting this guy. Leonard has generated a lot of buzz this post season and imo is the kind of hard working, productive guy the Falcons would covet. A sneaky productive type like Amani Toomer or Reggie Wayne.

Patriots trade #28 to the Tennessee Titans for their #39 and a conditional 2012 pk.
28 Tennessee Titans - Christian Ponder QB Florida State

I think you could find Was, Tenn, Minn, SF, and Sea all vying to get their QB. I don't really see the Dalton interest. Ponder offers the Titans a high character, potential rookie starter who can create with his feet.

29 Chicago Bears – Derek Sherrod OT/G Mississippi State

Bears more likely to grab a blue chip O lineman early, then look to the defensive line in round 2.

Jets trade #30 to the Redskins for their #41 and receive a conditional 2012 (3rd)
30 Washington Redskins – Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada

By quite a few accounts and my untrained eye, he was the best QB at Mobile despite making the transition from his college pistol offense. Much further along than I thought as a passer. “Has a knack for coming through with a big play when the team needs it most”-SN. General consensus is a 2nd-3rd round guy, who I can see a team coveting and reaching to draft, here or earlier.

31 Pittsburgh Steelers – Dan Watkins OG Baylor

If you consider Pouncey a OC, which a lot of teams do, then Watkins is the top OG in the draft. The buzz is about A.Williams here but would you rather take the 4th best CB who might be more a FS, or the top interior offensive lineman and look at a CB in round 2?

32 Green Bay Packers - Brooks Reed OLB Arizona

A must be reading too much Bunting and SN and PFW and Mayock, who all don’t consider Reed anything better than a 3-5th round pick. I must say he gets off very quickly and doesn’t look near as linear as his critics say he is. At this point it’s looking like a stretch he’s still available at #32 but I’m still not buying completely in. It would start looking like Asgard in Green Bay if they land him.


33. New England Patriots - Mark Ingram RB Alabama*

34. Buffalo Bills – Ben Ijalana OT Villanova

35. Cincinnati Bengals – Andy Dalton QB TCU

36. Denver Broncos – Aaron Williams FS/CB Texas*

37. Cleveland Browns – Greg Little WR North Carolina

One of my favorite guys who is finally getting some pub per Charlie Casserly.

38. Arizona Cardinals – Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame*

Titans trade #39 and 2012 conditional to Patriots for their #28
39. New England Patriots (F/ Tennessee Titans) – James Carpenter OT

Saban connection and pretty solid all around LT who’s stock is up.

40. Dallas Cowboys – Marcus Gilbert OT Florida

If they don’t go OT in the first, they have to get the best on the board in the second.

Redskins trade #41 and future pick to the Jets for their #30
41. NewYork Jets (F/Washington)– Dontay Moch OLB Nevada

42. Houston Texans – Jabaal Sheard OLB/DE Pittsburgh

43. Minnesota Vikings – Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas

44. Detroit Lions – Ras I Dowling CB Virginia

45. San Francisco 49ers – Justin Houston DE/OLB Georgia*

46. Denver Broncos (F/MIA) – Marvin Austin DT UNC

47. St. Louis Rams – Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa

Probably too good to pass up here but I do think Clayborn will see a freefall out the first.

48. Oakland Raiders – James Brewer OT Indiana

Some scouts are really high on Brewer. Best fit is a zone scheme which I think the Raiders still use.

49. Jacksonville Jaguars – Rahim Moore FS UCLA

50. San Diego Chargers – Jon Baldwin WR Pittsburgh*

Larryesque and could get coveted earlier because of his mentoring by some of the leagues most respected.

51. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Muhammad Wilkerson DT Temple*

Not down on him but didn't see a good fit until here until Tampa. First round talent but not especially explosive. I guessing McCoy will see some time at DE this season and the T2 puts a premium on the inside rush.

52. New York Giants – Bruce Carter OLB North Carolina

53. Indianapolis Colts – Stephen Paea DT Oregon

54. Philadelphia Eagles – Brandon Harris CB Miami*

55. Kansas City Chiefs – Titus Young WR Boise State

56. New Orleans Saints - Mikel Leshoure RB Illinois*

Pierre has been like a mentor to this guy and a lot of analysts have a first round grade on him. If he’s on the board I have a hard time seeing the Saints pass him.

57. Seattle Seahawks – Will Rackley OG/T Lehigh

58. Baltimore Ravens – Chris Carter OLB Fresno State

Big time sleeper who I think will go in the 2nd. The Ravens can’t count on Sergio coming back 100% and making an impact.

59. Atlanta Falcons – Christian Ballard DE Iowa

60. New England Patriots –Torrey Smith WR Maryland*

Stock falling imo because he’s potentially one dimensional. But that’s exactly what NE needs after letting Randy go.

61. San Diego Chargers (F/NYJ) – Kelvin Sheppard ILB LSU

62. Chicago Bears – Terrell McClain DT USF

Taking a look back at his combine performance where he showed the feet and movement skills of a LB it’s not surprising he’s such a rising prospect but he’s got some of the same concerns as Fairley.

63. Pittsburgh Steelers – Curtis Brown CB Texas

64. Green Bay Packers – Rodney Hudson OG Florida State


65. Carolina Panthers – Jarvis Jenkins DT Clemson

Under the radar guy who reportedly is drawing some buzz and will not get out of the second round per Mayock. Just barely.

66. Cincinnati Bengals – Marcus Gilchrist FS Clemson

67. Denver Broncos – Quan Sturdivant ILB North Carolina

68. Buffalo Bills – Sam Acho DE/OLB Texas

69. Arizona Cardinals – Clint Boiling OG Georgia

70. Cleveland Browns – Jah Reid OT UCF

I thought I had him too high here in the third and was shocked to see Parcells have a 2nd round grade on him :)

71. Cleveland Browns – Kenrick Ellis DT Hampton

72. New Orleans Saints (F/WAS) – Mason Foster LB Washington

73. Houston Texans – Johnny Patrick CB Louisville

74. New England Patriots (F/MINN) – Allen Bailey DE Miami

75. Detroit Lions – Martez Wilson LB Illinois*

Stiffness on tape and at the combine, poor pro day and med concerns likely to drop him.

76. San Francisco 49ers – Devon House CB New Mexico State

77. Tennessee Titans – Randall Cobb WR Kentucky*

78. St. Louis Rams – Greg Salas WR Hawaii

79. Miami Dolphins – Ryan Williams RB Virginia Tech*

80. Jacksonville Jaguars – Curtis Marsh CB Utah State

81. Oakland Raiders – Shareece Wright CB USC

82. San Diego – Rock Carmichael CB Virginia Tech

83. New York Giants – Daniel Thomas RB Kansas St*

84. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State

Despite running slow in the post season-strictly off his tape-Mcphee was considered a probable 2nd round pick.

85. Philadelphia Eagles – Jaiquawn Jarrett SS Temple

86. Kansas City Chiefs - Orlando Franklin OG Miami

87. Indianapolis Colts – Taiwan Jones RB Eastern Washington

88. New Orleans Saints – Jurrell Cassey DT USC*

89. San Diego Chargers (F/SEA) – K.J.Wright LB Mississippi State

90. Baltimore Ravens – Ed Gates WR Abilene Christian

91. Atlanta Falcons – Kendall Hunter RB Oklahoma State

92. New England Patriots – John Moffitt OC Wisconsin

93. Chicago Bears – Stefan Wisniewski OC Penn State

94. New York Jets – Cedric Thornton DE Southern Arkansas

95. Pittsburgh Steelers – Lance Kendricks TE Wisconsin

96. Green Bay Packers – Cecil Shorts WR Mount Union

97. Carolina Panthers – Tandon Doss WR Indiana*


98. Carolina Panthers – Drake Nevis DT LSU

99. Seattle Seahawks (F/DEN) – Brandon Burton CB Utah*

100. Buffalo Bills – Nate Irving LB NC State

101. Cincinnati Bengals – Greg Romeus DE Pittsburgh

102. Cleveland Browns – Shane Vereen RB California*

103. Arizona Cardinals – Marcus Cannon OT TCU

104. Philadelphia Eagles (F/WAS) – Demarco Murray RB Oklahoma

105. Houston Texans – Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy

106. Minnesota Vikings – Jalil Brown CB Colorado

107. Detroit Lions – Zach Hurd OG UConn

108. San Francisco 49ers – Austin Pettis WR Boise State

109. Tennessee Titans – Colin McCarthy OLB Miami

110. Dallas Cowboys – Ian Williams NT Notre Dame

111. Miami Dolphins – D.J.Williams TE Arkansas

112. St. Louis Rams – Jordan Todman RB UConn*

113. Oakland Raiders – Ross Homan OLB Ohio State

114. Jacksonville Jaguars – Greg Jones LB Michigan State

115. San Francisco 49ers (F/SD) – Sione Fua NT Stanford

116. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Josh Thomas CB Buffalo

117. New York Giants – Luke Stocker TE Tennessee

118. Kansas City Chiefs – Ron Johnson WR USC

119. Indianapolis Colts – Martin Parker DT Richmond

120. Philadelphia Eagles – Lawrence Wilson OLB UConn

121. Jacksonville Jaguars (F/NO) – Jeron Johnson SS Boise State

122. Buffalo Bills (F/SEA) – Virgil Green TE Nevada

123. Baltimore Ravens – Stephen Burton WR West Texas A&M

124. Atlanta Falcons – Robert Sands OLB/SS Virginia*

125. New England Patriots – Chris Culliver FS/CB South Carolina

126. New York Jets – Jason Pinkston OT/G Pittsburgh

127. Chicago Bears – Jermale Hines S Ohio State

128. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi

129. Green Bay Packers – Derek Locke RB Kentucky

A steal.

130. Tennessee Titans - Casey Matthews ILB Oregon

131. Green Bay Packers – Willie Smith OT East Carolina


132. Carolina Panthers - Maurice Hurt OG Florida

133. Buffalo Bills – Lawrence Guy DE Arizona State*

134. Cincinnati Bengals – Quinton Carter S Oklahoma

135. Kansas City Chiefs (F/DEN) – Bruce Miller OLB UCF

136. Arizona Cardinals – Akeem Dent ILB Georgia

137. Cleveland Browns – Ryan Hill CB Miami

138. Houston Texans – Dexter Larimore NT OSU

139. Minnesota Vikings – Mark Legree FS Appalachian St

140. Kansas City Chiefs (F/DET) – Chris Hairston OT Clemson

141. San Francisco 49ers – Joe Lefeged S Rutgers

142. Tennessee Titans – Jordan Cameron TE USC

143. Dallas Cowboys – Dejon Gomes S Nebraska

144. Washington Redskins – Jaquizz Rodgers RB Oregon State*

145. St. Louis Rams – Deandre McDaniel S Clemson

146. Miami Dolphins – Lee Zeimba OG Auburn

147. Jacksonville Jaguars – Terrence Tolliver WR LSU

Will end up a mid round steal.

148. Oakland Raiders – Julius Thomas TE Portland State

149. Philadelphia Eagles (F/SD) – Brandon Hogan CB West Virginia

150. Minnesota Vikings (F/NYG) – Brandon Fusco OC Slippery Rock

151. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Kendrick Burney CB UNC

152. Indianapolis Colts – Ray Dominguez OG Arkansas

153. Philadelphia Eagles – Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech

154. Detroit Lions (F/KC) – Denarius Moore WR Tennessee

155. Washington Redskins (F/NO) – Andrew Jackson OG Fresno State

156. Seattle Seahawks – Jabara Williams OLB Stephen F. Austin

157. Seattle Seahawks (F/BAL) – T.J. Yates QB UNC

158. Atlanta Falcons – Jeremy Kerley WR TCU

159. New England Patriots – Adrian Moten OLB Maryland

160. Chicago Bears – Vincent Brown WR San Diego State

161. New York Jets – Alex Henery K Nebraska

162. Pittsburgh Steelers – Byron Maxwell FS/CB Clemson

163. Green Bay Packers – Scott Lutrus ILB Uconn

164. Baltimore Ravens – Anthony Sherman FB UConn

165. Baltimore Ravens – Cortez Allen CB Citadel



1. Cam Newton QB
3. Jarvis Jenkins DT
3. Tandon Doss WR
4. Drake Nevis DT
5. Maurice Hurt OG


1. Von Miller OLB/DE
2. Aaron Williams FS/CB
2. Marvin Austin DT
3. Quan Sturdivant ILB


1. Marcel Dareus DE/NT
2. Ben Ijalana OT
3. Sam Acho OLB/DE
4. Nate Irving ILB
4. Virgil Green TE
5. Lawrence Guy DE


1. A.J. Green WR
2. Andy Dalton QB
3. Marcus Gilchrist FS
4. Greg Romeus DE
5. Quinton Carter SS


1. Robert Quinn OLB/DE
2. Kyle Rudolph TE
3. Clint Boiling OG
4. Marcus Cannon OT
5. Akeem Dent ILB


1. J.J. Watt DE
2. Greg Little WR
3. Jah Reid OT
3. Kenrick Ellis DT
4. Shane Vereen RB
5. Ryan Hill CB

San Francisco

1. Blaine Gabbert QB
2. Justin Houston DE/OLB
3. Davon House CB
4. Austin Pettis WR
4. Sione Fua NT
5. Joe Lefeged S


1. Nick Fairely DT
1. Christian Ponder QB
3. Randal Cobb WR
4. Colin McCarthy OLB
4. Casey Matthews ILB
5. Jordan Cameron TE


1. Patrick Peterson CB/FS
2. Marcus Gilbert OT
4. Ian Williams NT
5. Dejon Gomes S


1. Julio Jones WR
2. Colin Kaepernick QB
5. Jaquizz Rodgers RB
5. Andrew Jackson OG


1. Prince Amukamara CB
2. Jabaal Sheard OLB/DE
3. Johnny Patrick CB
4. Jernel Jernigan WR
5. Dexter Larimore NT


1. Cameron Jordan DE/DT
1. Ryan Mallett QB
4. Jalil Brown CB
5. Mark Legree FS
5. Brandon Fusco OC


1. Tyron Smith OT
2. Ras I Dowling CB
3. Martez Wilson OLB
4. Zach Hurd OG
5. Denarious Moore WR


1. Corey Liuget DT
2. Adrian Clayborn DE
3. Greg Salas WR
4. Jordan Todman RB
5. Deandre McDaniel S


1. Jake Locker QB
3. Ryan Williams RB
4. D.J. Williams TE
5. Lee Zeimba OG


1. Aldon Smith DE/OLB
2. Rahim Moore FS
3. Curtis Marsh CB
4. Greg Jones ILB
4. Jeron Johnson SS
5. Terrence Tolliver WR

New England

1. Ryan Kerrigan DE/OLB
2. Mark Ingram RB
2. James Carpenter OT
2. Torrey Smith WR
3. Allen Bailey DE
3. John Moffitt OC
4. Chris Culliver FS/CB
5. Adrian Moten OLB

San Diego

1. Cameron Heyward DE
2. Jon Baldwin WR
2. Kelvin Sheppard ILB
3. Rock Carmichael CB
3. K.J. Wright LB

NY Giants

1. Mike Pouncey OC
2. Bruce Carter OLB
3. Daniel Thomas RB
4. Luke Stocker TE

Tampa Bay

1. Akeem Ayers OLB
2. Muhammad Wilkerson DT
3. Pernell Mcphee DE
4. Josh Thomas CB
5. Kendrick Burney CB

Kansas City

1. Phil Taylor NT
2. Titus Young WR
3. Orlando Franklin OG
4. Ron Johnson WR
5. Bruce Miller OLB
5. Chris Hairston OT


1. Nate Solder OT
2. Stephen Paea DT
3. Taiwan Jones RB
4. Martin Parker DT
5. Ray Dominguez OG


1. Anthony Costanzo OT/G
2. Brandon Harris CB
3. Jaiquan Jarrett SS
4. Demarco Murray RB
4. Lawrence Wilson OLB
5. Brandon Hogan CB
5. Tyrod Taylor QB

New Orleans

1. Da'quan Bowers DE
2. Mikel Leshoure RB
3. Mason Foster LB
3. Jurrell Casey DT


1. Jimmy Smith CB
2. Will Rackley OG
4. Brandon Burton CB
5. Jabara Williams OLB
5. T.J. Yates QB


1. Greg Carimi OT
2. Chris Carter OLB
3. Ed Gates WR
4. Stephen Burton WR
5. Anthony Sherman FB
5. Cortez Allen CB


1. Len Hankerson WR
2. Christian Ballard DE
3. Kendall Hunter RB
4. Robert Sands OLB/SS
5. Jeremy Kerley WR


1. Derek Sherrod OT
2. Terrell McClain DT
3. Steve Wisniewski OC
4. Jermale Hines S
5. Vincent Brown WR

NY Jets

2. Dontay Moch
3. Cedric Thornton DE
4. Jason Pinkston OT/G
5. Alex Henery K


1. Dan Watkins OG
2. Curtis Brown CB
3. Lance Kendricks TE
4. Jerrell Powe NT
5. Byron Maxwell FS/CB

Green Bay

1. Brooks Reed OLB
2. Rodney Hudson OG
3. Cecil Shorts WR
4. Derek Locke RB
4. Willie Smith OT
5. Scott Lutrus ILB


2. James Brewer OT
3. Shareece Wright CB
4. Ross Homan OLB
5. Julius Thomas TE

04-25-2011, 02:40 PM
Very up and down saints picks, bowers and foster are awesome picks, i dislike the cannon pick and hate the leshoure pick

04-25-2011, 02:43 PM
OK Bears mock. I won't fault you, because everyone is picking OT and OC to the Bears. But OG is a bigger need than both. The Bears started 4 different players at OG last year. Three of them were miserable. Garza, was also bad and is 32 years old. Meanwhile at OT, the Bears have 22 yo Webb, Williams is moving back there, and Frank Omiyale was OK as a run blocker (5.0 ypc to the left T last year).

The Bears have said they're looking for big bodies on the interior OL. They will pick an OG early (unless Carimi falls to them at 29) and pick up another OT with upside late.

I don't think Austin is going to happen. I don't think Wisnewski is going to happen (Kreutz will be back and the Bears like Edwin Williams at C). I like all the players though, but I think they will go in other directions in the 1st 3 rounds. 4th and 5th round picks are solid.

04-25-2011, 02:57 PM
I could Live with that Eagles draft. Would prefer Smith in the first, but that is still a position of need.

04-25-2011, 03:02 PM
While I am fine with all the players selected by the patriots, with the exception of Torry Smith because I believe the Patriots current WR corps is fine, I dislike the compensation that they earned from the two trades. 2012 2nd and 2012 3rd respectively would have been more than fair.

Other than that it a very intriguing draft that made me rethink a lot of things.

04-25-2011, 03:12 PM
Very up and down saints picks, bowers and foster are awesome picks, i dislike the cannon pick and hate the leshoure pick

Apparently people dont know the Saints have 4 starting caliber OTs and 3 RBs they are trying to find touches for, on top of keeping Drew Brees the ball.

04-25-2011, 03:13 PM
I'd be content with the Pats mock.
I like Kerrigan, Jenkins, Williams and T.Smith.
Especially at their positions in the draft. Great value picks.
The only thing I would change is Wisnieski over Moffit
Other than that... a pretty good pats haul

04-25-2011, 03:14 PM

1. Von Miller OLB
3. Marcus Gilbert OT
3. Ricky Stanzi QB
4. Drake Nevis DT
5. Maurice Hurt OG

I would rather see a CB with that 5th round pick. I would rather see a WR or TE with that 3rd pick. I like the Nevis pick if he falls that far. I guess I like Gilbert if he is really worth taking with that first pick in the 3rd round. As far as Von Miller goes, while I would certainly welcome the idea of having Von Miller and Jon Beason playing side by side, I would rather see Green or Peterson taken with the 1st pick. The Panthers are good at developing linebackers (Dan Connor, James Anderson, etc). We need a playmaker at the WR position and we need an eventual replacement for Richard Marshall when we lose him in FA.

Pat Sims 90
04-25-2011, 03:33 PM
I don't think Mike Brown will take a QB in the 1st.

All the other picks are fine.

04-25-2011, 04:42 PM
I would be relatively content if the Jets' draft went that way. My criticisms would be:

Tannenbaum seems to enjoy making a splash, so while I'd be happy with a trade down I'm not sure they'll do that and wait a day to make their first selection.

Calvin Pace isn't a great pass rusher, and while maybe not worth the money he's sufficient starting at one of the OLB spots. Miller's not an awful pick, but I think a NT like Powe would be tough to pass up on at that point to help improve the DL a bit.

04-25-2011, 04:54 PM
NO WAY Tom Heckert gives up Patrick Peterson and AJ Green for JJ Watt and a 3rd round pick. Sorry bro, maybe Mangini would do that but he's gone.

It'd be Dallas #2 and we would not take Watt there--Jones or Fairley

I do like Greg Little, great fit for WCO.

04-25-2011, 05:30 PM
very nice KC draft

04-25-2011, 06:58 PM
Very Solid Bills Draft.

Matthew Jones
04-25-2011, 07:06 PM
I don't think Kerrigan is a realistic pick at 17...Belichick probably isn't going to want to take the risk of projecting a college DE to a pro OLB spot with other guys on the board. I think he'd choose from Heyward, Pouncey, Castonzo, Ingram, and Wilkerson there. Your trade downs are awful too...with Wilkerson/Ingram left on the board later on, I don't see any chance of them trading down. Your guy is there, you take him. Carpenter and Jenkins are both big reaches. Torrey Smith is a good pick. I'd be happy with Ryan Williams but I'm not sure whether or not the team would draft him - leaning towards no. Moffitt is good. Culliver is a huge reach and not someone I've heard even whispers about. Friday is very undersized and there's almost no chance the Pats draft him. Pretty terrible job with New England. Very unrealistic.

04-25-2011, 07:40 PM
Solid Packer draft.

04-25-2011, 07:54 PM
crap-tastic ravens draft..poop equivalent

04-25-2011, 09:22 PM
1. Prince Amukamara CB
2. Justin Houston DE/OLB
3. Andy Dalton QB
4. Tandon Doss WR
4. Sione Fua NT
5. Adrian Moten OLB

Sorry but that is a horrible SF mock.I only like Prince,Fua and Maybe Dalton out of that draft.I would we get some with a little more arm power too.It's rough to pick out trades.But I think we slide into the first round to do for a QB.But nice try.

04-25-2011, 10:55 PM
Awesome Phins draft!

04-25-2011, 11:31 PM
i don't really like aaron williams that much, but that's personal feeling. otherwise, i'd be ecstatic with this denver draft.

Feel pretty much the same way!

Brown Leader
04-26-2011, 11:22 AM
NO WAY Tom Heckert gives up Patrick Peterson and AJ Green for JJ Watt and a 3rd round pick. Sorry bro, maybe Mangini would do that but he's gone.

It'd be Dallas #2 and we would not take Watt there--Jones or Fairley

I do like Greg Little, great fit for WCO.

no,no,no..let's be clear. He'd be giving up Peterson OR Green for JJ Watt AND Kendrick Ellis. :)

04-26-2011, 12:12 PM
3 Buffalo Bills - Cameron Newton QB Auburn*

34. Buffalo Bills – Muhammad Wilkerson DE Temple*
38. Arizona Cardinals – Kyle Rudolph TE Notre Dame*

68. Buffalo Bills – Orlando Franklin OT Miami
88. New Orleans Saints – Marcus Cannon OT TCU

100. Buffalo Bills – Nate Irving LB NC State
110. Dallas Cowboys – Ian Williams NT Notre Dame
115. San Francisco 49ers (F/SD) – Sione Fua NT Stanford
117. New York Giants – Luke Stocker TE Tennessee

122. Buffalo Bills (F/SEA) – Virgil Green TE Nevada
126. New York Jets – Bruce Miller OLB UCF

133. Buffalo Bills – Lawrence Guy DE Arizona State*


1. Cameron Newton QB
2. Muhammad Wilkerson DE
3. Orlando Franklin OT
4. Nate Irving ILB
4. Virgil Green TE
5. Lawrence Guy DE

My thoughts on Buffalo; Wilkerson is solid in the second, although I have heard nothing about them liking him (which means nothing). Rudolph gives Newton a weapon in the passing game and fits Gaileys description of an ideal TE. Either way its a good pick.
Despite Cannons lymphoma (treatable and curable, if that is what it is now), I still have him rated higher than Franklin, and think he is the pick over Franklin, in particulary as he is more consistant. I am liking Franklin more the more I see him though. Constancy...
Irving does not really fit what they have said they are looking for in an ILB, but if Poz were to leave they would need someone to replace him. Right now they need more of a "thumper". Williams and Fua would help the run game and the 3, and could play nose if need be IMO, Stocker is also the type of TE who fits Gaileys ideal TE. I like Virgil Green, but his blocking is not at the level I would think they are looking for. Bruce Miller I think would be a great pick at that pioint. Love Guy in the 5th.
Over all I thought it was a good effort for Buffalo, hit many needs :)

Brown Leader
04-28-2011, 05:21 PM
Draft eve update!....BEFORE I watched Mayock's mock. :)

Main difference was Arizona taking Peterson. I'm still not down with the Browns taking a WR.