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Bills2083
04-28-2011, 11:26 PM
What say you?
Who are the top prospects remaining, heading into round 2?

BlindSite
04-28-2011, 11:30 PM
Ayers and Bowers are sitting pretty at the top of the round as far as pass rushers go. Sure Bowers knee is obviously a huge concern but if he's been given clearance he could be a steal.

Ayers is a great fit for the 34 teams remaining, Patriots, Houston, a few others could use help in this area. Harris is the best CB remaining by a good margin.

Mallet and Dalton should figure to go pretty high to the QB needy teams at the top, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kaepernick come off fairly early too.

GaMeTiMe
04-28-2011, 11:50 PM
Whoever drafts Marvin Austin is going to get one of the best values in the draft. Too bad Cleveland picked Taylor because they're in prime position to pick Austin or Paea, but will probably end up with Bowers who I'm convinced at this point is completely shot.

I think the top 5 picks of the 2nd could look something like this:

33) Oakland Raiders (f/CAR thru NE) - Colin Kaepernick QB Nevada
34) Buffalo Bills - Akeem Ayers LB UCLA
35) Cincinnati Bengals - Andy Dalton QB TCU
36) Denver Broncos - Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
37) Cleveland Browns - DaQuan Bowers DE Clemson

jsagan77
04-28-2011, 11:54 PM
I don't understand how a guy can go from a dominant force in College and a top 5 pick to "completely shot" in less than 4 months.

Leon Sandcastle
04-29-2011, 12:04 AM
Kyle Rudolph, Brooks Reed, Justin Houston better be the pick at #34 for the Bills.

GaMeTiMe
04-29-2011, 12:05 AM
I don't understand how a guy can go from a dominant force in College and a top 5 pick to "completely shot" in less than 4 months.

By losing a leg

keylime_5
04-29-2011, 12:06 AM
33-New England-Akeem Ayers
34-Buffalo-Colin Kaepernick
35-Cincinnati-Andy Dalton
36-Denver-Marvin Austin-DT
37-Cleveland-Da'Quan Bowers-DE
38-Arizona-Brooks Reed-OLB

It makes too much sense. I agree that someone will trade up into #33 and try to get Kaepernick or Dalton, and that Buffalo would take Ayers or Reed if that happened.

Based on who they had visit for pre-draft visits, the Browns would take either Brooks Reed or Da'Quan Bowers at 37 if they go DE instead of Justin Houston or Jabaal Sheard....and if they go WR in round two the names Greg Little, Jerrell Jernigan, and Edmund Gates are ones to watch. The talk before the draft was that the Browns' doctors cleared Bowers' knee and that he passed the physical there unlike some teams. Would be an interesting front line consisting of Bowers/Rubin/Taylor/???

Iamcanadian
04-29-2011, 12:09 AM
I don't understand how a guy can go from a dominant force in College and a top 5 pick to "completely shot" in less than 4 months.

Its called a knee injury which the doctors are obviously saying may never return to 100%. Maybe not even 75%.

djp
04-29-2011, 12:12 AM
Bowers may last until round 3 or 4 at this point.

Bills2083
04-29-2011, 12:13 AM
Reed vs. Houston vs. Ayers

Who is the best OLB of this group?
I have seen differing opinions on all 3 prospects and I'd like something to sell me on one.

HawkEye30
04-29-2011, 12:15 AM
What kind of defense is clevland running? I though it was still the 3-4, but they were saying they might run the 4-3.

RaiderNation
04-29-2011, 12:16 AM
Bowers is well worth the risk in the 2nd round, would not mind Oakland trading up for him

Bills2083
04-29-2011, 12:16 AM
What kind of defense is clevland running? I though it was still the 3-4, but they were saying they might run the 4-3.

They brought Dick Jauron in as their DC, so I'm 99.9% sure they're running a 4-3 for the '11-12 season.

GaMeTiMe
04-29-2011, 12:17 AM
I'm most excited tomorrow about the receivers. I hope to see at least 8 guys come off the board in rounds 2-3. Also after ignoring the corner position in the 1st I can't wait to see which scrub the Eagles randomly scoop up tomorrow and expect to be their #2 corner from day one (or sign Nnamdi, in which case all would be forgiven).

jsagan77
04-29-2011, 12:17 AM
I guess I'm not up on Bowers. Did he lose a leg or tear all the ligaments in his knee or something?

MI_Buckeye
04-29-2011, 12:26 AM
I guess I'm not up on Bowers. Did he lose a leg or tear all the ligaments in his knee or something?

No he is just slow and overweight with 2/3 of his college career as an enormously underproductive bust and one season with extremely misleading production. Thats all.

jsagan77
04-29-2011, 12:29 AM
I don't trust any Clemson DE after the Adams and Merling debacles, but he does intrigue me. Would it be worth it for Detroit to grab him up in the 2nd?

phlysac
04-29-2011, 08:27 AM
I guess I'm not up on Bowers. Did he lose a leg or tear all the ligaments in his knee or something?

He had surgery in the knee this offseason to reporedly repair a torn meniscus. The medical report supposedly shows that it is very weak and that arthritis is likely and the long-term prognosis for the knee is not good.

phlysac
04-29-2011, 08:28 AM
Reed vs. Houston vs. Ayers

Who is the best OLB of this group?
I have seen differing opinions on all 3 prospects and I'd like something to sell me on one.

Jabaal Sheard is likely in that group as well.

arenafanatic
04-29-2011, 10:21 AM
These are players i like going in to the 2nd and 3rd round.

1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson, DE
2. Justin Houston, Georgia, DE
3. Akeem Ayers, UCLA, LB
4. Marvin Austin, UNC, DT
5. Randall Cobb, UK, WR
6. Andy Dalton, TCU, QB
7. Ryan Mallet, ARK, QB
8. Titus Young, Boise, WR
9. Bruce Carter, UNC, LB
10. Austin Pettis, Boise, WR

onejayhawk
04-29-2011, 10:08 PM
Of Scott's list, the Chiefs managed 3.

#8 Allen Bailey
#15 Justin Houston
#22 Rodney Hudson

They were drafted in reverse that order. Go figure. In any event, that is a heckuva day 2.

J