Texans cut Domanick Willams (Davis), and David Carr

[Shiver]

Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Texans have cut Carr and Davis (who is now known as Domanick Williams).

Domanick Williams was such a promising player, whose career was derailed by injuries.

As for Carr, I guess no one wanted to trade a day-2 pick for him.

[draftguru151]

Thank goodness we aren't trading for Carr.

[bigbluedefense]

hard to stay healthy when youre getting tackled before the hand off can even take place.

The year they get a decent oline, he goes on IR. That sucks.

[bsaza2358]

Sad for Williams. He was incredibly productive behind a suspect OLine and 8 men in the box to stop him. That knee injury just completely killed him. It's too bad.

[Ronnie Brown]

I would certainly welcome him to the Dolphins, I'm kind of worried though that maybe the Texans released him because a Trent Green deal is done and they couldn't work anything out with the Dolphins.

[diabsoule]

I expect Carr to sign with someone soon. I think either the Dolphins, Browns, Raiders, or Vikings might take a flyer on him.

And I really liked Davis. He showed a lot of potential but just couldn't stay healthy.

[San Diego Chicken]

Domanick Williams was such a promising player, whose career was derailed by injuries.

As for Carr, I guess no one wanted to trade a day-2 pick for him.


I'm sure Carr is worth a day two pick, it was his contract that probably lead to his release. Of course no team is going to swallow a 6 million or so cap figure for a guy that probably won't be a starter.

[icantackleclaret]

2 guys that no more than 2 years ago, everyone thought would be solid pros now.

[constant cough]

Too bad about Domanick he was from outside my hometown and one of my favorite former LSU Tigers. I'm glad he was able to get paid before he got hurt.

[lod01]

It's called cleaning house. Bravo!

[toonsterwu]

I think both guys will be picked up. With Williams, it'll depend on how things look health wise, so it may not be until much later.

I still think Carr and the Vikings are a good fit. Of course, the Raiders may step in now that they don't have to offer anything up. That being said, I don't believe that signing Carr will significantly impact their drafting plans.

[Vince Lombardi]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2809870

Interesting, both could could be solid pickups. Anybody know what shape Williams is in now with his knee?

[Moses]

Wow, those are two huge cuts. The Texans are in complete rebuild mode.

[Grid]

The reason Texans released Carr and DW is that both of these players meant great deal to the Texans Organization and to Mr. Bob McNair personally. Rather then trading them for the picks, Texans simply cut him so both of these players can sign with a team of their choice.

Read the Houston Chronicle and see what Mr. McNair had to say about Carr. This shows class on the part of the Texans and it gives both of these players to sign with the team of their choices.

From business perspective, it doesn't show very well acumen but Texans decided to take the financially hit and move on. This is about as close as they will ever come to admitting they made a mistake in giving extension to Carr last year and they should have selected VY last year.

This decision was not Rick Smith to make as this decision was made by the owner of the Texans Mr. McNair himself. Carr had asked to be released, if Texans didn't have plans for him and his wish was granted by McNair.

Class all the way ............. Now we will see Carr with some team in the back up role.

[SchizophrenicBatman]

Panthers should pick up Domanick, that way between him and DeShaun they'll have 1 RB for a whole season to split carries with DeAngelo

Now if the Texans would just cut their MLB...

[Vince Lombardi]

Wow, those are two huge cuts. The Texans are in complete rebuild mode.

Were they ever built in the first place? :confused:

[Moses]

Were they ever built in the first place? :confused:

Carr and Davis were the planned "cornerstones" of that franchise. It obviously didn't work out.

[draftguru151]

Were they ever built in the first place? :confused:

That's what I was thinking. You have to build before you rebuild.

[GB12]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2809870

Interesting, both could could be solid pickups. Anybody know what shape Williams is in now with his knee?

I would have 0 interest in Davis, but Carr on the other hand...

[Vince Lombardi]

I would have 0 interest in Davis, but Carr on the other hand...

I'd be all for bringing in Carr and then trading Rodgers for Moss. :D

[GB12]

I'd be all for bringing in Carr and then trading Rodgers for Moss. :D

Exactly what I was indicating. I'm not big on trading Rodgers, but if we were able to pick up Carr I'd be fine. I still think Carr could be good, but he needed to get out of Houston. Then we would get Moss and still have a QB to take over when God leaves.

[BigDawg819]

Wow this time last year the Texans were formulating the excuses that they didn't need Reggie Bush nor Vince Young because of these guys and now they release them.....

[gbpackers0065]

Packers must sign williams!!

[The Legend]

i would not mind taking williams if he is healty

thou im hearing its not good on his health not sure if that true

[D-Unit]

Another dumb move. Suprise! Suprise!

[keylime_5]

Everyone saw the Williams thing months ago. That is not news even though the actual release is news I guess. He won't play this year probably and likely won't get signed until next offseason.

Carr I HOPE goes to Oakland which I hope leads to a Moss trade and the raiders taking Calvin Johnson so Cleveland actually gets a franchise QB in the house instead of Charlie Frye or David Carr running the show

[Shiver]

Williams' career is done. Carr has a future as a Joey Harrington-like back-up.

[Ward]

Another dumb move. Suprise! Suprise!

Yeah this is frustrating. I want Houston to do well. Texas needs two dominant teams. I want to have that rivalry. I want Texas to dominate the AFC and the NFC. It pisses me off that they are running that franchise so badly.

[Shiver]

So cutting some of Casserly, Capers', damaged goods, is running a franchise "badly." I don't see how that is. Williams cannot play anymore, they signed Green to be the starting RB. Carr was replaced by Schaub, and I believe is a big upgrade.

[Ward]

So cutting some of Casserly, Capers', damaged goods, is running a franchise "badly." I don't see how that is. Williams cannot play anymore, they signed Green to replace him. Carr was replaced by Schaub.

Fixing your mistakes is fine, don't get me wrong. However, I still have issue with the fact they they didn't "need" Bush or Young, then they go out and cut the guys they touted as the future at those positions and get a couple of wild cards in Schaub and Green. Yay Mario Williams?

[GermanSaint]

my prediction :

domanick to the pack and carr to the lions or phins ( when the raiders dont trade down )

[bearsfan_51]

Yeah this is frustrating. I want Houston to do well. Texas needs two dominant teams. I want to have that rivalry. I want Texas to dominate the AFC and the NFC. It pisses me off that they are running that franchise so badly.

That's funny cause I want Texas to fall into the Gulf of Mexico and/or get re-annexed by Mexico.

[PACKmanN]

my prediction :

domanick to the pack and carr to the lions or phins ( when the raiders dont trade down )

i wouldnt mind that.

[Shiver]

Fixing your mistakes is fine, don't get me wrong. However, I still have issue with the fact they they didn't "need" Bush or Young, then they go out and cut the guys they touted as the future at those positions and get a couple of wild cards in Schaub and Green. Yay Mario Williams?


I think they should have taken Vince Young. He would have been a perfect addition. That said; I think Schaub will be an above average NFL starter. I think he will definitely out-perform him as a passer. Kubiak gave Carr a shot, he failed, at least they didn't compound their mistake by sticking with Carr any further.

However, with my familiarity with Z.B.S, living in the AFC West country, watching Denver, then watching three years of it with Atlanta, I will never be convinced that Reggie Bush fits that scheme. All indications from Bush's camp are they were never interested in him, anyway. I think, because he didn't fit in with what they wanted. A downhill, one cut, runner.

[keylime_5]

my prediction :

domanick to the pack and carr to the lions or phins ( when the raiders dont trade down )

Mine is Dominack to the free agent shelf for a year or two or infinity, and Carr to Minnesota

[GB12]

Yeah this is frustrating. I want Houston to do well. Texas needs two dominant teams. I want to have that rivalry. I want Texas to dominate the AFC and the NFC. It pisses me off that they are running that franchise so badly.

It's kind of hard to make it a rivalry when they only play each other once every 4 years.

[RaiderNation]

hope the raiders sign carr

[cunningham06]

Panthers should pick up Domanick, that way between him and DeShaun they'll have 1 RB for a whole season to split carries with DeAngelo

Now if the Texans would just cut their MLB...

You will never get Demeco, he's one of our few bright spots.

[eaglesalltheway]

Carr is uderrated if you ask me. If he would have been behind a solid line for the Texans he could be one good QB. We all know he is a good thrower, but he has scrambling cpabilities as well. He will end up on a team as a backup who may be able to start in a few years. It may sound dumb, but if the Ravens don't think Boller can get it done, they might pick up Carr. As for Williams on the other hand, he may have seen the end of his career. I hope not, but it just may be what is in store for him.

[eaglesalltheway]

You will never get Demeco, he's one of our few bright spots.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[princefielder28]

Very suprised; I think once Williams gets healthy again he can still do damage in this league.

[Bearsfan123]

id like Carr to come to Chicago. Carr could be solid competition for Rex

Williams wouldnt be able to make it up the dc here.

[lod01]

Carr is uderrated if you ask me. If he would have been behind a solid line for the Texans he could be one good QB. We all know he is a good thrower, but he has scrambling cpabilities as well. He will end up on a team as a backup who may be able to start in a few years. It may sound dumb, but if the Ravens don't think Boller can get it done, they might pick up Carr. As for Williams on the other hand, he may have seen the end of his career. I hope not, but it just may be what is in store for him.

Just 'wow' on that one.

[#1chiefs_fan]

how about carr to the panthers

[lod01]

how about carr to the panthers


What would he do there? Steve Smith would kill him after running wide open waiting for a deep pass only to see the RB catching a dink pass...play after play.

[Shiver]

lod, we get it, you dislike Carr. A lot of people agree with you. You don't need to post the same thing, over, and over, again.

[Severe Punishment]

Here's some quotes from Childress on Carr:

Some have thought David Carr might be on the Vikings radar. But coach Brad Childress was candid in his assessment of Carr, the top overall pick in the 2002 draft. "I always struggled with where his release came from," Childress said. (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/1073943.html) "It's kind of a drop-down, three-quarter, not overhand, over the top release. Just in the tape I've watched [since] he's been in the league, he can make some of the throws, he can't make all the throws. He gets some balls batted [down] at the line of scrimmage just because of where that ball comes from. ... "He's a smart guy, he's a decent athlete but when you're buying a quarterback at this level and you kick the tires, there shouldn't be a lot of things that you're trying to straighten out."

http://www.benmaller.com/archives/2007/march/23#137606

So Carr most likely ends up somewhere NOT called Minnesota.

[Stash]

IMO Carr still has potential and definitely deserves a second chance. As a Raider fan I wouldn't mind picking him up even though I don't know if he wants to play for another team with a bad o-line.

[Bengals1690]

i wonder what impact this will have on the draft. Funny how 1 trade leads to all this.

[princefielder28]

i wonder what impact this will have on the draft. Funny how 1 trade leads to all this.

The Texans still have Green and Dayne and they'll get the majority of the carries. I think they'll draft a back on Day 2

[Bengals1690]

The Texans still have Green and Dayne and they'll get the majority of the carries. I think they'll draft a back on Day 2

i mean for other teams too. If someone like the Lions picks up Carr, then they prolly wont pick quinn at number4 two. If the bills pick up Williams, AP could slip to number 16! Lynch could go in the twenties! this is just crazy. I can understand the cut of david carr, he never really showed up, but they cut Williams, who is great when he is healthy, for a back who gets hurt just as much.

[smittyjs]

Domanick Williams when healthy would ALWAY run all over the Titans, i wouln't mind bringing him in to back up White and be the one-two punch we need.

[Scotty D]

i mean for other teams too. If someone like the Lions picks up Carr, then they prolly wont pick quinn at number4 two. If the bills pick up Williams, AP could slip to number 16! Lynch could go in the twenties! this is just crazy. I can understand the cut of david carr, he never really showed up, but they cut Williams, who is great when he is healthy, for a back who gets hurt just as much.

Another batch of top QB prospects shouldn't be passed over for the potential of David Carr.

[MP123]

Scott, what was your scouting report for David Carr back in 2002?

[B-Dawk]

i remember when davis, carr, and johnson were being touted as the next big three, kind of sad how this has turned out.

[yourfavestoner]

Williams' career is done. Carr has a future as a Joey Harrington-like back-up.

THANK YOU Shiver. I've asked in two different threads today for somebody to please explain what the hell the difference is between Carr and Harrington, and why people give Carr a free pass but slam Harrington.

[ElectricEye]

I think the best place for Carr to end up would be the Lions. I think Martz could really make something out of him, and while the Lions offensive line is by no means a top tier unit, they're quite a bit better than the Texans. That was really his problem. I still really like Carr. I wish him the best. Miami would not be a good place for him to go. Too many uncertainties there. There would the the Culpepper/Carr drama, which would end up hurting them both. Still, I wish both of them the best. I thought the Texans really had something in 2004. Andre Johnson has his first 1000 yard year, Domanick had 1600 yards from scrimmage behind a crummy line, and threw for 3500 yards and completed 61 percent of his passes. Behind a good line, that really could have been something. They definitely tried....but the old football adage proved to be true once again; games are won and loss in the trenches. And the Texans just never addressed the line.
Oh, and @yourfavestoner and Shiver...
I really don't think you can compare Carr and Harrington. In Harringtons best year, he threw for 3047 yards, 19 touchdowns, 12 picks, and completed 56% of his passes. His career completion percentage is 55.2%, with a quarterback rating of 68.2
Carr on the other hand, has completed 60% of his passes in 3 out 5 years in the league, and last year had a career high 68.3 completion percentage. The Texans also invested considerably less in their offense over the years. In the past 3 years, the Texans have drafted a defensive player number one over someone who could help on the offensive side of the ball, in fact, in 2004, they spent 5 picks on defense, and didn't draft a single linemen, all the while Carr was getting the crap knocked out of him. They drafted one linemen in 2005, 5th round center Drew Hodgdon, who has started 8 games in two years. Until last year, they 4 linemen in just as many years, despite having massive offensive line issues.....and all the ones they did get have not made much of an impact. So it's not really fair to compare them. Carr isn't the type of person who can take a franchise on his back...but only 3 or 4 quarterbacks in the league are like that. Still, maybe I'm crazy, but I think in the right situation he could be a damned good player.

[wogitalia]

Vikings should be in contact with both. Davis at 75% of what he was is at least as good as Taylor and thus worth a punt.

Carr is flat out better and has more potential than anyone, what he did given his protection is actually really good.

[LonghornsLegend]

i wish people would stop slamming the texans for taking mario williams...if you have a DE who is compared to peppers, and actually times better, and puts up better numbers at the combines, its not stupid or crazy to take that as your #1 pick....


as many said, davis injury was freak, and he was certainly a great back, and carr was still young, showing potential...they had cornerstones on offense, they needed the defense to come around to win some games, and if mario ended up/ends up ala kearse or peppers, it was most definately the smartest decision for them...he's a difference maker on the D line, they had production on offense outside of the line, they were headed in the right direction.....


somehow they ended up backwards in just one years time, and even further back with the schaub trade...sucks for johnson, but lundy is going to be a solid back, they still need one more back, and another WR, but their only a few years away from the playoffs if schaub pans out

[wogitalia]

Mario Williams is going to end up being a lot like Hakeem was in the NBA. It wont matter how great he is if he cant end up better than Vince, Leinart, Cutler and Reggie because he isnt a big name guy like them.

I have no problem with the pick, Davis' injury was just unlucky or they had their franchise back. Carr has the talent, what they need is an OLine. I think the only guy they truly "passed" on to take Williams was D'Brickashaw. He was the only guy who fitted a need with the talent for the #1 pick, Mario being the other guy and even more talented with a ******** of potential makes him a good pick in my book.

[OhioState]

i think carr is still promising and wouldn't mind having him battle sexy rexy for the starting job in chi town this year.

[Homicide]

I would like to see the Colts pursue Domanick.

[eacantdraft]

Dominick Davis Williams (whatever he is called at the moment) is finished. He is not a starter anymore. He is a backup at best. Most likely he played his last NFL snap in 2006. Get over it.

Carr will go to a place where he thinks he can start. It won't be Green Bay or Chicago.