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devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-14-2011, 11:40 AM
Saw some chatter in the MLB Tread about the draft propsects. I think the MLB Draft deserves its own thread, so here we are.

So, I pose the 1st questions...Will Matt Purke rebound to his top pick status of earlier this year? Saw that BA has him just inside the top 32.

Also, is Starling a better prospect on the diamond or the gridiron?

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 11:59 AM
Purke will probably go late 1st. He may even go back to school next year if that's the case.

fischbowl
05-14-2011, 12:40 PM
My gut tells me Purke will be back Horned Frog Purple next year.

Babylon
05-14-2011, 12:42 PM
Seattle with the 2nd pick is in a pretty good position to get either Rendon or the pitcher Cole. They cant possibly screw that up can they?

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 12:50 PM
Rendon's slipping a little. He might go #2 but don't be so sure that's a guarantee either.

T-RICH49
05-14-2011, 02:07 PM
Dylan Bundy or Bubba Starling are the 2 guys I really love and want KC to draft one of them

djp
05-14-2011, 02:24 PM
Hey fisch or anyone really, can you give me a quick top 5 for 2012? Twins are on pace to have the #1 pick so I wanna know what we're shooting for.

Babylon
05-14-2011, 02:45 PM
Rendon's slipping a little. He might go #2 but don't be so sure that's a guarantee either.

I'd just as soon the Mariners get a bigtime catcher or outfielder as Alex Liddi and Dustin Ackley look like infielders of the future.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-14-2011, 04:33 PM
Rendon's slipping a little. He might go #2 but don't be so sure that's a guarantee either.

Injuries really starting to pile up for Rendon.

Is it possible that he could slip to #4 for Baltimore?

Getting Machado and Rendon back to back would be pretty sick.

If I was a Bucos fan I would be very excited about getting Gerrit Cole, to go along with Stetson Allie, Jamison Taillon, and Luis Heredia.

fenikz
05-14-2011, 04:51 PM
I think it's down to Bubba Starling and Danny Hultzen for AZ at #3, not sure where we go with the #7 pick but anything is better than Loux

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 04:54 PM
Rendon has a shoulder injury and his family isn't releasing his medical records yet so seem to think that might be the problem. He hasn't really hit with much power this year so that would explain some things.

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 04:58 PM
I'd just as soon the Mariners get a bigtime catcher or outfielder as Alex Liddi and Dustin Ackley look like infielders of the future.

This is such a big time pitchers draft this year. The weakest part of the draft is college bats. The best C is Andrew Susac and he'll probably go about mid to late 1st it looks like. Best college bats are Springer and Mahtook.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-14-2011, 05:01 PM
I think it's down to Bubba Starling and Danny Hultzen for AZ at #3, not sure where we go with the #7 pick but anything is better than Loux

At least Loux has been able to get his career back on track. He is now pitching for Myrtle Beach in the Carolina league. He is currently 2-3 with a 4.39 era, to go along with 42 K's and just 7 BBs.

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 05:04 PM
Hey fisch or anyone really, can you give me a quick top 5 for 2012? Twins are on pace to have the #1 pick so I wanna know what we're shooting for.

The favorite to go #1 overall in 2012 is SP Lance McCullers(HS). Mark Appel is the top collge pitcher from Stanford. OF Nick Williams, SS Kenny Diekroeger, and 3B/OF Trey Williams(HS) round out the top 5 according to PerfectGame.

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 05:05 PM
I think it's down to Bubba Starling and Danny Hultzen for AZ at #3, not sure where we go with the #7 pick but anything is better than Loux

With one of the picks you're going to have to sign someone cheaper since you wouldn't get another pick in 2012.

fenikz
05-14-2011, 06:12 PM
orly? :p

Who do you think would be options there

BA has Dylan Bundy, RHP, Owasso HS

I've also seen 2 UConn guys

George Springer, OF, Connecticut
Matt Barnes, RHP, Connecticut

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 06:15 PM
I'm a really big fan of high school pitchers so I'd probably go Bundy there. If Springer can fix his swing mechanincs just a little it seems like his upside is pretty good as well but he's probably more of a mid round pick. You really can't go wrong in this draft with 2 Top 10 picks at all.

SickwithIt1010
05-14-2011, 06:41 PM
I likely see the BoSox of the Yankees taking Purke like the Sox did with Ranaudo this last draft. This kid is way better than he has pitched this year and everyone knows that. The Sox and the Yankees dont give a **** about price tags, they will be willing to roll the dice for a talent like his.

I still think Rendon has to be the favorite to go first with how Cole has pitched as of late.

My top 5 would go....

Bucs- Rendon
M's- Cole
D Backs- Hultzen
Orioles- Bauer (May be too high for him, but I think he goes higher than people expect.)
Royals- Starling

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 06:51 PM
That looks fine but I'd flip Cole and Rendon. Everything I read says the Royals take a college pitcher though so I really don't see the Starling thing. I also read they prefer Lindor over Starling.

Borat
05-14-2011, 07:05 PM
Giants fans have taken a liking to Kolten Wong.

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 07:07 PM
Giants fans have taken a liking to Kolten Wong.

Eww not anywhere near the 1st round I hope.

T-RICH49
05-14-2011, 07:20 PM
That looks fine but I'd flip Cole and Rendon. Everything I read says the Royals take a college pitcher though so I really don't see the Starling thing. I also read they prefer Lindor over Starling.

2this.1.) I'm calling a smokescreen on that.no team will publically announce wht they're gonna do still weeks away.and 2.) where'd you hear that KC likes Lindor over Starling?

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 07:29 PM
2this.1.) I'm calling a smokescreen on that.no team will publically announce wht they're gonna do still weeks away.and 2.) where'd you hear that KC likes Lindor over Starling?

Why would you have to smoke screen in the MLB draft? It's not like anyone can trade up ahead of them. Also, the teams already ahead of them wouldnt change their picks. Keith Law said one scout keeps insisting you like Lindor better and he's usually right.

SickwithIt1010
05-14-2011, 07:34 PM
I just dont know why I see Rendon sticking in the number 1 spot, I just cant talk myself into moving him to 2.

Giantsfan1080
05-14-2011, 07:37 PM
It's going to all depend on the medicals I guess.

Borat
05-15-2011, 11:14 AM
Eww not anywhere near the 1st round I hope.

Really? I've seen him in the first round in most mocks. I don't even think he'll be there at 29 for the Giants.

Giantsfan1080
05-15-2011, 11:21 AM
I've seen him rated in the back half of the top 100.

Borat
05-15-2011, 12:39 PM
I've seen him rated in the back half of the top 100.

LOL. Wut? BA's latest mock had him at 31 to Tampa and Callis mocked him to Cincy at 27 three weeks ago. BA ranked him 27th overall in their midseason rankings in mid-April.

Who had him near 100? That's insane.

Giantsfan1080
05-15-2011, 12:45 PM
LOL. Wut? BA's latest mock had him at 31 to Tampa and Callis mocked him to Cincy at 27 three weeks ago. BA ranked him 27th overall in their midseason rankings in mid-April.

Who had him near 100? That's insane.

It was Perfect Game or Law I think.

Hines
05-15-2011, 02:54 PM
Man, I'd be happy with Rendon or Cole. I think I'd rather have Rendon though.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-15-2011, 09:56 PM
Jason Churchill of ESPN said Rendon could fall to the Cubs at #9. There is no ******* way thats going to happen right? I should find him and punch him in the face for getting my hopes up.

fischbowl
05-15-2011, 10:28 PM
The favorite to go #1 overall in 2012 is SP Lance McCullers(HS). Mark Appel is the top collge pitcher from Stanford. OF Nick Williams, SS Kenny Diekroeger, and 3B/OF Trey Williams(HS) round out the top 5 according to PerfectGame.

Some other names to watch would be:

Kevin Gausman, RHP, LSU
Deven Marrero, SS, Arizona State
Steve Nyisztor, 2B, Rutgers
Jeremy Baltz, OF, St. John's

McCullers is consensus #1 right now followed by Diekroger.

fischbowl
05-15-2011, 10:31 PM
Kolten Wong is a guaranteed mid to late first rounder. Can you seriously deny his production this year?

.369, 6 HR, 41 RBI, 33/17 K/BB ratio, 21 SB. Can probably project to play the outfield as well.

I love Wong, but Borat, would you say he's maybe a little too much in the mold of Gary Brown for the Giants to take him?

SickwithIt1010
05-15-2011, 11:27 PM
there is not a chance in hell that Rendon falls to 9.


I like Wong in the late first, his bat is too good to pass up.

Hines
05-16-2011, 01:16 AM
A couple of players who I hope the Pirates take or look at if they're there in the second round are:

Anthony Meo RHP Coastal Carolina
Andrew Chafin LHP Kent State
Jason Esposito 3B Vanderbilt (I could see him fall a bit due to his bat, but his defense is top notch)
Aaron Westlake 1B Vanderbilt
Julius Gaines SS Hibriten HS (Ga)
Dillon Maples RHP Pinecrest HS (NC)

Out of the 6, I could see Meo and Chafin going in the supplemental round.

SickwithIt1010
05-16-2011, 01:33 AM
So baseball america's mock has us taking Archie Bradley....we just paid top flight money for Zach Lee to lure him away from his 2 sport commitment at LSU, and now they think we are gonna do it with this kid? Cmon

Hines
05-16-2011, 01:36 AM
Dylan Bundy's name has come up with the Pirates. It won't happen, though.

Giantsfan1080
05-16-2011, 08:00 AM
The thing is it's so cheap to buy these kids out compared to all the other expenses in baseball. It's stil a big market innefficiency in baseball. People just have a problem with in because you don't see a return on that investment right away.

T-RICH49
05-16-2011, 09:17 AM
Mayo's first mock will be out wednesday accordfing to his twitter page

Giantsfan1080
05-17-2011, 07:48 AM
Umm wow. From Jim Callis Twitter.


jimcallisBA Jim Callis
Sticker shock: Teams being told asking price on Dylan Bundy is 6 yrs, $30 million. For Archie Bradley, 5 yrs and $20 million.

Hines
05-17-2011, 11:32 AM
They won't get that. No chance IMO.

Giantsfan1080
05-17-2011, 11:38 AM
They won't but I still don't remember ever reading about a demand that high except for Strasburg.

SickwithIt1010
05-17-2011, 11:49 AM
My boy on my college team right now is expected to go in the top 7 rounds somewhere. Zach Arneson, throws 95-97.....guy is nasty.

Hines
05-17-2011, 12:23 PM
My boy on my college team right now is expected to go in the top 7 rounds somewhere. Zach Arneson, throws 95-97.....guy is nasty.

Pirates love their hard throwing guys. I'd think he could get drafted by them.

Giantsfan1080
05-17-2011, 05:26 PM
In Keith Law's first full mock he has the Pirates taking Hultzen. He has Rendon 2 and Cole falling to the Royals at 5. If you want your pick and descripition feel free to PM me.

T-RICH49
05-17-2011, 11:34 PM
In Keith Law's first full mock he has the Pirates taking Hultzen. He has Rendon 2 and Cole falling to the Royals at 5. If you want your pick and descripition feel free to PM me.

why would Law get my hopes up like that?I know it's not happening

SickwithIt1010
05-18-2011, 12:30 AM
Pirates love their hard throwing guys. I'd think he could get drafted by them.

Yeah, they really do! haha....so do the dodgers, Hes getting his dick sucked by just about everyone right now though haha.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-18-2011, 08:12 AM
why would Law get my hopes up like that?I know it's not happening

Even if he did fall out of the top 3 I can't see Baltimore passing on him. I think they pass on a HS pitcher, Dylan Bundy as Law says, after the Matt Hobgood experiment and nab Cole at #4.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-18-2011, 08:13 AM
Is Lindor anywhere near the product that Machado was last year?

fischbowl
05-18-2011, 08:54 PM
Is Lindor anywhere near the product that Machado was last year?

Not quite Machado caliber, but definitely a Top 10 talent.

T-RICH49
05-20-2011, 02:08 PM
every mock draft I've run across today has us taking Lindor

proshoota25
05-20-2011, 02:13 PM
I know a lot of catchers have been mocked to us in the first round, but the BoSox are just like the Patriots when it comes to OLBs, the need is there and they are often mocked, but they just never end up picking one.

I am hoping for a 5 tool player in the first (dream scenario being starling falls due to contract demands, but i just dont see that anymore) Bell would also be a great selection

SickwithIt1010
05-20-2011, 07:10 PM
I know a lot of catchers have been mocked to us in the first round, but the BoSox are just like the Patriots when it comes to OLBs, the need is there and they are often mocked, but they just never end up picking one.

I am hoping for a 5 tool player in the first (dream scenario being starling falls due to contract demands, but i just dont see that anymore) Bell would also be a great selection

If Susac is there, I dont see them passing on him.

Hines
05-20-2011, 07:19 PM
Danny Hultzen is straight DEALING right now. 9 Ks in 4 innings.

fenikz
05-20-2011, 07:32 PM
He will be awesome in Arizona :)

Hultzen Parker Skaggs Hudson Kennedy :D

marshallb
05-21-2011, 09:57 PM
Can someone give me some more info on Cory Spangenberg? Mayo had the Twins taking him in his first mock.

Borat
05-22-2011, 01:07 AM
Can someone give me some more info on Cory Spangenberg? Mayo had the Twins taking him in his first mock.

You can call him C-Span. That is all you need to know.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-25-2011, 09:35 PM
I am guessing the Cubs going after Austin Hedges at #9 would be too big of a reach. Could he fall, due to signability concerns, to the Cubs 2nd rounder at #68?

Giantsfan1080
05-26-2011, 10:28 AM
From Law today:


It sounds like the Pirates have narrowed their list for the No. 1 overall pick to Hultzen, Starling, and Cole, with Rendon still a possibility. If they take Hultzen, Seattle probably takes Rendon (although there's still an outside chance they go rogue and take Lindor) and Arizona takes Bauer. If the Pirates take Starling or Cole, Seattle goes Rendon and Arizona takes Hultzen, which could push Bauer all the way to Washington at No. 6.

Hines
05-26-2011, 11:44 AM
Hmmmm, that's interesting. I'd take the college pitchers over the HS bat in that scenario.

djp
05-26-2011, 01:51 PM
Sounds like Law is trying to cover all the bases (no pun intended)

Hey fisch (or anyone), you heard anything about who the Twins are looking at?

fenikz
05-26-2011, 03:18 PM
i hoping for

3. Hultzen
7. Bundy

but i will also accept

3. Hultzen
7. Bauer

:)

SickwithIt1010
05-26-2011, 03:40 PM
i hoping for

3. Hultzen
7. Bundy

but i will also accept

3. Hultzen
7. Bauer

:)

I think Bauer is going to be a lot better than people expect. If I were the DBacks I would go with the Hultzen/Bauer combo.

fenikz
05-26-2011, 03:45 PM
i honestly dont think either will be there at 7 just a pipe dream

SickwithIt1010
05-26-2011, 03:46 PM
i honestly dont think either will be there at 7 just a pipe dream

Yeah I posted in here....I think on the last page saying that I thought Bauer would go higher than people expected, possibly top 5.

T-RICH49
05-26-2011, 07:41 PM
Dayton Moore was out watching Bauer a few days ago.wonder if he's becoming more in play if there at 5

nepg
05-26-2011, 07:50 PM
they'd be silly to pass on starling

fenikz
05-26-2011, 07:52 PM
did Starling change his mind or something, last I heard he was 100% going to Nebraska to play QB

Hines
05-26-2011, 07:53 PM
did Starling change his mind or something, last I heard he was 100% going to Nebraska to play QB

A **** ton of cash could change any teen's mind.

nepg
05-26-2011, 07:58 PM
did Starling change his mind or something, last I heard he was 100% going to Nebraska to play QB
He'll play baseball for $6 million. No one hires Boras if they're "100% going to play football".

T-RICH49
05-26-2011, 09:05 PM
they'd be silly to pass on starling

agreed if there Starling has to be the guy

fischbowl
05-26-2011, 09:34 PM
I have nothing about the Twins, djp. Recent draft history tells me given their draft position in the late 1st, the pick will come as a surprise. Both Ben Revere and Carlos Gutierrez were taken ahead of their projected rounds and Kyle Gibson was drafted coming off a season ending fractured arm in 2009 that seriously decimated his stock.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-26-2011, 09:48 PM
I am guessing the Cubs going after Austin Hedges at #9 would be too big of a reach. Could he fall, due to signability concerns, to the Cubs 2nd rounder at #68?

Yes, I am quoting myself...but, does anyone have an answer or guess to this one?

CrankthatCrabtree
05-26-2011, 09:48 PM
I have nothing about the Twins, djp. Recent draft history tells me given their draft position in the late 1st, the pick will come as a surprise. Both Ben Revere and Carlos Gutierrez were taken ahead of their projected rounds and Kyle Gibson was drafted coming off a season ending fractured arm in 2009 that seriously decimated his stock.

What do you expect the Jays and Rays to do with their millions of picks?

fischbowl
05-26-2011, 10:01 PM
Yes, I am quoting myself...but, does anyone have an answer or guess to this one?

I project Hedges in to go in the supplemental round.

What do you expect the Jays and Rays to do with their millions of picks?

I would expect both drafts to be very prep heavy. Tampa usually prefers high school prospects. Toronto had 11 picks in the first 5 rounds last year and 9 of them were high schoolers.

T-RICH49
05-26-2011, 10:32 PM
fisch are you on the Bubba to KC bandwagon?if not what do you expect KC to do at 5?

SickwithIt1010
05-26-2011, 11:47 PM
fisch are you on the Bubba to KC bandwagon?if not what do you expect KC to do at 5?

How is their system as far as pitching? Would a guy like Bauer or Gray be an option there for them? Basically asking is the top pitcher available a good choice?

Giantsfan1080
05-27-2011, 06:28 AM
In baseball you always go top player available. Need should never be an issue.

T-RICH49
05-27-2011, 10:29 AM
How is their system as far as pitching? Would a guy like Bauer or Gray be an option there for them? Basically asking is the top pitcher available a good choice?

our pitching in the minors is in good shape.Montgomery, Lamb(although sounds like he'll need TJ surgery), Dwyer, Odorizzi, Arguelles are just a few of out top prospects

fenikz
05-28-2011, 05:26 AM
*Buster Olney reported on his blog today that the Pirates are still considering Gerrit Cole for the No. 1 overall pick. I don’t get the sense the Diamondbacks would take Cole at No. 3, so him coming off the board in the top two picks is the best thing that can happen for them. That increases the likelihood that the player they most want (probably Danny Hultzen) would be there for them.

*Keith Law thinks that if Hultzen’s gone, the Diamondbacks will take Trevor Bauer. He doesn’t seem to think the Diamondbacks could end up with both Hultzen and Bauer, believing that Bauer goes sixth to the Nationals if he’s there.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/NickPiecoro/129648

Hines
05-28-2011, 05:56 AM
Man, I just want next Monday to come so I know who the hell the Pirates are going to draft. Law says that the Pirates are not going to select Rendon, Callis has them taking Rendon, and a Pittsburgh reporter says that noone is the clear number 1 guy.

T-RICH49
05-28-2011, 10:41 AM
BA's latest mock had Cole falling to KC.doubtful that happens but man would that be sweet

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
05-28-2011, 12:03 PM
Anyone tell me anything on these guys...

Tyler Beede, RHP, Lawrence Academy (MA)
Jeff Diehl, C, Cranston West HS (RI)
Elvin Soto, C, Xaverian HS (NY)
Glenn Gronkowski, OF, Williamsville North HS (NY)
Garret Wittels, SS, Florida International
Tyler Marlette, C, Hagerty HS (FL)
Trevor Story, SS, Irving HS (TX)
Brandon Loy, SS, Texas

Hines
05-28-2011, 04:59 PM
Josh Bell says he doesn't want to sign:


http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2011/05/bell-tells-mlsb-he-doesnt-want-to-sign/

Hines
05-28-2011, 05:04 PM
Anyone tell me anything on these guys...

Tyler Beede, RHP, Lawrence Academy (MA)
Jeff Diehl, C, Cranston West HS (RI)
Elvin Soto, C, Xaverian HS (NY)
Glenn Gronkowski, OF, Williamsville North HS (NY)
Garret Wittels, SS, Florida International
Tyler Marlette, C, Hagerty HS (FL)
Trevor Story, SS, Irving HS (TX)
Brandon Loy, SS, Texas

I guess Beede is a sandwhich guy and throws pretty hard. Wittels had a long hitting streak that continued in between this year. He also got accused of rape in January I believe.

nobodyinparticular
05-28-2011, 05:35 PM
Josh Bell says he doesn't want to sign:


http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2011/05/bell-tells-mlsb-he-doesnt-want-to-sign/

If this is posturing, fine. But if he really is going to go to Texas, that's just ridiculous. Sure, academics are nice, but when you plan on having a career in the major leagues, you really shouldn't worry about it. That's like an English teacher passing up a job offer after getting his credentials so that he can take another 3 years of advanced mathematics "because education is important."

Except it's even worse because Bell can just have a clause in his signing bonus that requires the team to pay for his future education.

fischbowl
05-28-2011, 05:37 PM
I've played against Gronkowski, who is of the great, athletic clan of Gronkowski that produced one minor league baseball player and two NFL players who we know all too much about. Glenn is headed to Kansas State for football, so I doubt he gets drafted.

marshallb
05-30-2011, 03:37 PM
So, Keith Law posted his latest mock draft today. The first five picks are available for anyone to see, but to see any more you have to have insider. Link (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&page=LawMockDraft2.0&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb %2fdraft%2f2011%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolu mnist%3dlaw_keith%26page%3dLawMockDraft2.0)

Here's the top 5:
1. Pirates - Gerrit Cole RHP UCLA
2. Mariners - Anthony Rendon 3B Rice
3. Diamondbacks - Danny Hultzen LHP Virginia
4. Orioles - Dylan Bundy RHP Owassa HS
5. Royals - Matt Barnes RHP UCONN

If someone who has insider could PM me the Twins pick, that would be greatly appreciated.

proshoota25
05-30-2011, 06:41 PM
So, Keith Law posted his latest mock draft today. The first five picks are available for anyone to see, but to see any more you have to have insider. Link (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&page=LawMockDraft2.0&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb %2fdraft%2f2011%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolu mnist%3dlaw_keith%26page%3dLawMockDraft2.0)

Here's the top 5:
1. Pirates - Gerrit Cole RHP UCLA
2. Mariners - Anthony Rendon 3B Rice
3. Diamondbacks - Danny Hultzen LHP Virginia
4. Orioles - Dylan Bundy RHP Owassa HS
5. Royals - Matt Barnes RHP UCONN

If someone who has insider could PM me the Twins pick, that would be greatly appreciated.

Twins pick is Tyler Beede, RHP, HS..... continuing their taking their HS pitchers that they love, but Beede will come with a heavy price with a strong commitment to Vandy.

Law's mock has the Red Sox taking Alex Meyer and Josh Bell..... I REALLY REALLY want Josh Bell, and I think we could be a team that would match his asking price.... for us I would take Jed Bradley (who Law has falling this far) at 19 and Bell at 26.... and thats awesome

T-RICH49
05-30-2011, 06:45 PM
So, Keith Law posted his latest mock draft today. The first five picks are available for anyone to see, but to see any more you have to have insider. Link (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft/2011/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&page=LawMockDraft2.0&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb %2fdraft%2f2011%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolu mnist%3dlaw_keith%26page%3dLawMockDraft2.0)

Here's the top 5:
1. Pirates - Gerrit Cole RHP UCLA
2. Mariners - Anthony Rendon 3B Rice
3. Diamondbacks - Danny Hultzen LHP Virginia
4. Orioles - Dylan Bundy RHP Owassa HS
5. Royals - Matt Barnes RHP UCONN

If someone who has insider could PM me the Twins pick, that would be greatly appreciated.

Barnes over Bauer or Bubba would make me lose it.terrible pick

marshallb
05-30-2011, 06:50 PM
Twins pick is Tyler Beede, RHP, HS..... continuing their taking their HS pitchers that they love, but Beede will come with a heavy price with a strong commitment to Vandy.

Law's mock has the Red Sox taking Alex Meyer and Josh Bell..... I REALLY REALLY want Josh Bell, and I think we could be a team that would match his asking price.... for us I would take Jed Bradley (who Law has falling this far) at 19 and Bell at 26.... and thats awesome

See, that's the thing, they haven't been taking high school pitchers early, it's been college pitchers.

proshoota25
05-30-2011, 06:55 PM
See, that's the thing, they haven't been taking high school pitchers early, it's been college pitchers.

your right. what i meant to say is they love to develop high school pitchers with tons of upside.

Giantsfan1080
05-31-2011, 09:14 AM
If we seriously take Levi Micheal in a draft this loaded I'll flip.

T-RICH49
05-31-2011, 10:17 AM
June 6th can't get here soon enough

proshoota25
05-31-2011, 12:29 PM
June 6th can't get here soon enough

its def gunna be fun. cant wait

Borat
05-31-2011, 11:43 PM
How sick is it that the Royals are about to add a top 5 pick to that incredible farm system. Just insane talent in KC.

nobodyinparticular
06-01-2011, 12:24 AM
I think Oakland could still grab Josh Bell if he's on the board. In 2009 they went after a guy who fell largely due to signing bonus demands and ended up giving him top 5-ish money to sign. I think they can do this again by going much further overslot for Bell.

Okay, okay, a lot of this is wishful thinking because I want them to do this, but I think they very well may go after Bell even with his high demands.

T-RICH49
06-01-2011, 01:12 AM
How sick is it that the Royals are about to add a top 5 pick to that incredible farm system. Just insane talent in KC.

yep.It'd be insane if we get Starling.Hosmer/Moose/Myers/Starling would be so sick

Borat
06-01-2011, 01:35 AM
yep.It'd be insane if we get Starling.Hosmer/Moose/Myers/Starling would be so sick

I want to see this.

I think they should take Bauer though.

fenikz
06-01-2011, 01:49 AM
i will be happy with any combination of these players

Danny Hultzen
Dylan Bundy
Bubba Starling
Trevor Bauer
Gerrit Cole
Anthony Rendon
Francisco Lindor

obv I would be happy with quite a few others as well but these are the ones being tied to AZ(with the exception of Cole, but we would have to take him at 7 I think)

fischbowl
06-01-2011, 07:14 AM
Grant Green, NIP...

Bell won't be drafted in the top 10 Rounds. Same thing happened with Jordan Danks, the lure of Augie Garrido baseball and a Longhorn education is too strong.

Hines
06-01-2011, 08:41 AM
Looks like it's down to Cole, Rendon, and Hultzen. Everyone has a different pick. I cannot wait untill Monday to see who it is. I still REALLY want Rendon, but Cole would be nice.

T-RICH49
06-01-2011, 10:40 AM
I've seeen Matt Barnes linked to KC as of late.don't know much about him can someone give me a scouting report?

villagewarrior
06-01-2011, 11:24 AM
I'm hoping Cole will indeed fall to 5 for the Royals. The Royals rotation is dreadful and odds are only one or two of their pitching prospects will even be average Major League-ers, they'd hit the jackpot if they get one of them to be a stud. Add an arm like Cole, who has big time stuff and should move quickly. If he's gone, I want Bundy or Starling in that order.

Giantsfan1080
06-01-2011, 01:15 PM
I think someone will take a gamble Bell early.

Hines
06-02-2011, 08:48 AM
If Bell is there at 60 for the Pirates, they better take him and try to lure him with 2-3 million dollars. If he doesn't budge, then at least they tried and get a comp pick for next year. If he signs, then we get a top prospect who could be a nice future bat for the Pirates.

Giantsfan1080
06-02-2011, 01:55 PM
I think you only get a comp pick for an unsigned 1st rounder.

T-RICH49
06-02-2011, 02:38 PM
Mayo's latest mock draft is out.nothig real shocking about top 5

marshallb
06-02-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that if Tyler Anderson is there that the Twins will take him. He just screams Twins type of pitcher.

SickwithIt1010
06-02-2011, 06:29 PM
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that if Tyler Anderson is there that the Twins will take him. He just screams Twins type of pitcher.

Oregon kid right?

marshallb
06-02-2011, 06:38 PM
Oregon kid right?

Yea, left hander.

proshoota25
06-02-2011, 06:46 PM
that mayo mock isnt too bad until he projects two Cs to the BoSox.... every year people project Cs to the sox and it never happens..... smh. I would be fine with Swihart or Hedges..... but only one of them

SickwithIt1010
06-02-2011, 06:50 PM
Yea, left hander.

I watched him throw a couple weeks ago against Wazzu, he got beat but he looked pretty damn good.

nepg
06-02-2011, 08:08 PM
that mayo mock isnt too bad until he projects two Cs to the BoSox.... every year people project Cs to the sox and it never happens..... smh. I would be fine with Swihart or Hedges..... but only one of them
I think they have to finally realize that they need to pull the trigger and try to develop a high pick C. They've failed with the lower picks and there are only a couple guys worth drafting this year. With their offense, their catcher can bat .100 as long as he is good defensively and managing the game.

proshoota25
06-02-2011, 09:26 PM
I think they have to finally realize that they need to pull the trigger and try to develop a high pick C. They've failed with the lower picks and there are only a couple guys worth drafting this year. With their offense, their catcher can bat .100 as long as he is good defensively and managing the game.

i agree... a great defensive catcher in our system would be awesome.... and that would be hedges. he is great defensively but scouts worry about his bat...... of course there hasnt been much talk about the BoSox being connected with him. Most scouts say that the Sox have been connected with the offensive minded catcher, Swihart, and he has some questions as to whether he can stick at catcher. Who knows.... I would love a young catcher to groom, but the success rate for developing a stud at the position is very, very, very low.

I am hoping for a pitcher and outfielder in the first. I would love Bell/Beede but thats too much risk for signing players in the first, and both come with enormous price tags..... so my second favorite scenario is Jed Bradley and Bell in the first.

Hines
06-02-2011, 10:06 PM
I read that the Tigers are poised to take Bell with their first pick and offer him close to 6 million dollars to see if he will sign.

proshoota25
06-03-2011, 12:11 AM
I read that the Tigers are poised to take Bell with their first pick and offer him close to 6 million dollars to see if he will sign.

i read this too.... but they dont have a pick for an ETERNITY... while the sox have atleast four picks before the tigers pick.... the Sox will have plenty of chances to take Bell if he keeps dropping. Most names most associated with the Sox right now, in order, are: 1.Swihart 2. Nimmo 3. Bell 4. Beede

Giantsfan1080
06-03-2011, 11:28 AM
Mets are keying in on Jungmann and Nimmo if he's there in the supplemental it looks like. I'd be very happy with those 2 but I don't think Nimmo falls that far.

proshoota25
06-03-2011, 01:35 PM
Mets are keying in on Jungmann and Nimmo if he's there in the supplemental it looks like. I'd be very happy with those 2 but I don't think Nimmo falls that far.

I think Nimmo might just get picked at 26 by the Sox

proshoota25
06-03-2011, 03:06 PM
latest keith law mock up.....

Just as i said a few days ago in a post...he has the BoSox taking Jed Bradley and Josh Bell. I would be very happy with this.

fenikz
06-03-2011, 03:37 PM
anyone care to pm me Arizona's 2nd pick with the write up and who ever went #6

top 5 are

1. Pittsburgh - Gerrit Cole
2. Seattle - Anthony Rendon
3. Arizona - Trevor Bauer
4. Baltimore - Danny Hultzen
5. Kansas City - Dylan Bundy

proshoota25
06-03-2011, 03:55 PM
law has washington taking starling at 6...... geeze strasburg, harper, and starling.... talk about the fanfare/talent this organization has been getting

Giantsfan1080
06-03-2011, 04:22 PM
Bauer and Bradley to the D'backs per Law.

Giantsfan1080
06-03-2011, 04:23 PM
I think Nimmo might just get picked at 26 by the Sox

Yeah there's no shot we get him at 44.

SickwithIt1010
06-03-2011, 09:42 PM
Has Sonny Gray started to fall or something? For a while it seemed like I was seeimg him in the top 6 or 7 picks and now its more middle first?

asdf1223
06-03-2011, 10:58 PM
Yup. According to Klaw,It seems more people think he's more of a reliever than Starter which is causing him to drop. They think he'll sign quickly so he still might go in one of those unprotected picks.

S4L
06-04-2011, 02:01 AM
Longtime Pirates beat writer (now in a columnist/feature role) Dejan Kovacevic reporting that the Bucs will take Gerrit Cole number one.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/home/dk-on-pittsburgh-sports/110137-wakeup-call-cole-is-no-1

marshallb
06-04-2011, 03:16 AM
Could someone PM me KLaw's Twins pick and description. + rep will be given, and thanks in advance.

Hines
06-04-2011, 05:48 AM
Longtime Pirates beat writer (now in a columnist/feature role) Dejan Kovacevic reporting that the Bucs will take Gerrit Cole number one.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/home/dk-on-pittsburgh-sports/110137-wakeup-call-cole-is-no-1

Yeah it's been leaning towards that for a bit IMO. I like it. I would perfer Rendon, but Cole is still sweet.

Then the Pirates can load up on bats and high projectable arms for the next few rounds.

I like St John's SS in the second round.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
06-04-2011, 09:37 AM
How fair are comparisons between Bubba Starling and Joe Mauer in terms of athletic ability? Wouldn't it be in the best interest for the Royals to take the hometown kid just as the Twins did back in 2001?

SickwithIt1010
06-04-2011, 02:07 PM
How fair are comparisons between Bubba Starling and Joe Mauer in terms of athletic ability? Wouldn't it be in the best interest for the Royals to take the hometown kid just as the Twins did back in 2001?

They are similar in the sense that they were both going to play QB in college, but they play completely different positions on the diamond. I would say Starling is a little more athletic in that sense, but is he as good of hitter as Mauer?

proshoota25
06-04-2011, 02:12 PM
99% chance Starling will be a Royal,National, or Cub on Monday. I'm thinking National more than anything.

T-RICH49
06-04-2011, 10:52 PM
lot of smoke pointing towards Bauer a Royal if there at 5.I think it'll come down to Bundy Bubba or Bauer for KC

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
06-04-2011, 11:17 PM
lot of smoke pointing towards Bauer a Royal if there at 5.I think it'll come down to Bundy Bubba or Bauer for KC

Do the KC fans want Starling? Myers and Starling in the OF in KC would be ******* sweet!

T-RICH49
06-04-2011, 11:24 PM
Do the KC fans want Starling? Myers and Starling in the OF in KC would be ******* sweet!

I would say yes but it's not vast majority.If Bubba, Bundy and Bauer are all there at 5 and KC goes with one of the P's then that is a scenario that from Royals fans I've talked to that is ok to pass on Bubba for.now if Bundy and Bauer are gone then Bubba has to be the slam dunk pick

fenikz
06-04-2011, 11:36 PM
Alot of rumors saying that the D'Backs are willing to spend on a guy with pick #7 could very well be Starling if he is isnt going to Nebraska

proshoota25
06-04-2011, 11:44 PM
Alot of rumors saying that the D'Backs are willing to spend on a guy with pick #7 could very well be Starling if he is isnt going to Nebraska

at this point i dont think starling gets to 7, unfortunately for you guys

fenikz
06-05-2011, 12:23 AM
ya thats the thing, if he has a price then he will probably go #2

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 01:00 AM
ya thats the thing, if he has a price then he will probably go #2

ultimately i think he goes 6 to washington.... could be very, very wrong tho

fenikz
06-05-2011, 01:07 AM
i should rephrase that, he would go #2 if Rendon goes #1, if not i think Rendon is a lock at #2

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 01:11 AM
i should rephrase that, he would go #2 if Rendon goes #1, if not i think Rendon is a lock at #2

yeah i def agree with you there.... but reports everywhere all night have been reporting cole will be the choice at #1

fenikz
06-05-2011, 02:10 AM
Top 15 Mock(cus anything more would just make me seem stupid after the draft)

1. Pit - Gerrit Cole, RHP, UCLA

2. Sea - Anthony Rendon, 3B,

3. AZ - Danny Hultzen, LHP, Virginia

4. Bal - Dylan Bundy, RHP, Owasso (Okla.) HS.

5. KC - Trevor Bauer, RHP, UCLA

6. Was - Bubba Starling, OF, Gardner-Edgerton HS

7. AZ - Francisco Lindor, SS, Monteverde (Fla.) Academy

8. Cle - Jed Bradley, LHP, Georgia Tech

9. CHC - Archie Bradley, RHP, Broken Arrow HS

10. SD - Matt Barnes, RHP, Connecticut

11. Hou - Taylor Jungmann, RHP, Texas

12. Mil - Javier Baez, SS, Arlington Country Day School

13. NYM - Sonny Gray, RHP, Vanderbilt

14. Fla - Mikie Mahtook, OF, LSU

15. Mil - Taylor Guerrieri, RHP, Spring Valley HS

T-RICH49
06-05-2011, 10:20 AM
Bauer would make me happy T-Rich

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 11:55 AM
looks pretty good. klaw has said that cleveland is locked in on sonny gray.... idk if its fact or speculation.

Giantsfan1080
06-05-2011, 11:58 AM
I hope they are I wouldn't want Gray.

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 12:03 PM
I hope they are I wouldn't want Gray.

me either. if im them i go get lindor/ archie bradley but they arent the type of team that will spend an extreme amount of money

Giantsfan1080
06-05-2011, 12:07 PM
Well the Mets always spend on their first round picks so I'm not worried about that. All the draft gurus are also hearing the Mets will spend throughout the draft this year. Gray just doesn't have enough upside to take especially in a year like this when there are players all over the place that project to be above average.

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 01:45 PM
Yeah the Mets are an interesting team. I have heard so many names connected with them. They could take one of the remaining college pitchers... Barnes/Jungmann/Gray/Jed Bradley or take a college outfield Mahtook/Springer. If I am a Mets fan, the guy i really want is Guerrieri..... guy is gunna be a beast.

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 01:46 PM
Also heard the Mets connected with Levi Michael earlier on in the process, so he could be in play as well

proshoota25
06-05-2011, 01:57 PM
Also heard the Mets connected with Levi Michael earlier on in the process, so he could be in play as well

Giantsfan1080
06-05-2011, 02:09 PM
Right now I'll be very happy with Jungmann, Springer, either Bradley, or Guerrieri with our 13th pick. There are other players I like as well but they probably won't drop.

T-RICH49
06-06-2011, 08:50 AM
Cole to Pittsburgh sounds like a done deal

Hines
06-06-2011, 08:55 AM
Yup, looks that way. I have no problem with it.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 09:54 AM
Archie Bradley to the O's at 4 gaining a lot of steam. Also, looks like Spanenberg to the Padres at 10.

T-RICH49
06-06-2011, 10:59 AM
Archie Bradley to the O's at 4 gaining a lot of steam. Also, looks like Spanenberg to the Padres at 10.

as well as Bauer to AZ @ 3.

1. Cole
2. Rendon
3. Bauer
4. Bradley
5. Bundy


this is my dream scenario

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 11:48 AM
Yeah you're going to be lucky getting Bundy. The D'Backs are going to do very well if they take Hultzen and Bauer as well. Looking back it was a very smart move to take Loux last year.

princefielder28
06-06-2011, 11:53 AM
any rumors on who the Brewers are interested in at 12??? i'm fairly certain they'll go with a college kid who they sign with relative ease at 15 since the pick is unportected thanks to Dylan Covey from last year

proshoota25
06-06-2011, 12:02 PM
oh man keith law's final mock was very uninspiring if your a BoSox fan.... i would not be happy if we took meyer and reed.... with all of that high school talent on the board... law said "sox are looking at the lesser known high school talent and their interest on josh bell is overblown" sad, sad....

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 01:20 PM
any rumors on who the Brewers are interested in at 12??? i'm fairly certain they'll go with a college kid who they sign with relative ease at 15 since the pick is unportected thanks to Dylan Covey from last year

Law says Taylor Jungmann Jed Bradley Mikie Mahtook. BA says Baez. Mayo says Sonny Gray. Starting pitching from college looks like a theme. It looks teams arent looking for signability that much with their unprotected picks this year because of the threat of Hard Slotting.

princefielder28
06-06-2011, 02:05 PM
Law says Taylor Jungmann Jed Bradley Mikie Mahtook. BA says Baez. Mayo says Sonny Gray. Starting pitching from college looks like a theme. It looks teams arent looking for signability that much with their unprotected picks this year because of the threat of Hard Slotting.

I hope to God they don't take Jungmann...he's obviously very talented but he's got arm issues down the road written all over him

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 03:05 PM
For the Brew Crew fans:


Frankie Piliere: Buzz: Ok, take this with a grain of salt, just a possibility but from strong sources. Brewers might be going with prep OF, Larry Greene. Hard to say which pick, but I would assume the unprotected one. Pre-draft deals are illegal so not saying that hearing they have have that one lined up.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 03:26 PM
Heavy rumors that the Cubs will be taking some Cuban pitcher with their first pick. Seems pretty awful to me.

proshoota25
06-06-2011, 03:38 PM
Heavy rumors that the Cubs will be taking some Cuban pitcher with their first pick. Seems pretty awful to me.

yeah its a guy WAY off the board.... a guy people have NEVER heard of..... thats really bad, especially coming with the #9 overall pick. If you know that absolutely no one knows who this Speck guy is, just wait til the second round or so? so dumb..... and hes 23, quite old. wow, just wow. oh well, another good player slips to #19 now cuz of this.

Brodeur
06-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Heavy rumors that the Cubs will be taking some Cuban pitcher with their first pick. Seems pretty awful to me.

It'll look great next to the Hayden Simpson pick from last year.

MaxV
06-06-2011, 04:35 PM
Right now I'll be very happy with Jungmann, Springer, either Bradley, or Guerrieri with our 13th pick. There are other players I like as well but they probably won't drop.

Yeah, either one of those guys I would be happy with.

nepg
06-06-2011, 04:37 PM
Royals are probably in the best situation possible for this draft. The teams ahead of them will make the decision for them.

Borat
06-06-2011, 04:48 PM
Bundy may end up being the best player to come out of this draft. Would be amazing if he ends up in KC. Good for the Royals.

2 Live Crew
06-06-2011, 04:50 PM
http://www.diamondscapescouting.com/scoutingreports_2011_index.html

Here are some nice in depth scouting reports and scouting videos from a friend of mine. He is a scout for a ML org...some good information here if you are not familiar with some of the 1st round talent.

Hines
06-06-2011, 05:05 PM
yeah its a guy WAY off the board.... a guy people have NEVER heard of..... thats really bad, especially coming with the #9 overall pick. If you know that absolutely no one knows who this Speck guy is, just wait til the second round or so? so dumb..... and hes 23, quite old. wow, just wow. oh well, another good player slips to #19 now cuz of this.

Seems like the Cubs love to do this.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:13 PM
I like Bauer better than Cole.. think that was the wrong pick. Cole has unreal stuff but Bauer just intrigues me more with his array of pitches.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:14 PM
Mariners with the surprise!!!

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:14 PM
Wow, Seattle going with a surprise. No one was saying they'd go with a pitcher, it was always about one of the bats.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:15 PM
I like Bauer better than Cole.. think that was the wrong pick. Cole has unreal stuff but Bauer just intrigues me more with his array of pitches.

I actually agree with you, but Bauer has more question marks than Cole, plus that power stuff of Cole interests people a lot.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:15 PM
Felix, Pineda, Hultzen.. Man, gonna be tough to score in that ballpark in a few years.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:16 PM
I actually agree with you, but Bauer definitely has more question marks than Cole, plus that power stuff of Cole interests people a lot.

Bauer is f'ing crazy. I love it, haha.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 06:17 PM
That was quite the shocker.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:18 PM
I wonder if the DBacks take Rendon here? I know it's probably Bauer, but it'd be crazy if they chose Rendon.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:20 PM
I like how Bud Selig says "Angeles" like the narrator from The Big Lebowski

djp
06-06-2011, 06:21 PM
Bauer puts a ton of stress on his planting knee, wow. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Bauer puts a ton of stress on his planting knee, wow. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.

He might also wear down quickly. I think he averaged close to 120 pitches a start. Sometimes he pitched 160 IIRC.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 06:24 PM
Rendon not a top 3 pick?

Safe bet that he falls to Detroit at 76, right?

[/sarcasm]

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:25 PM
I'm wondering if the injury issues have anything to do with Rendon dropping.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:26 PM
I love Taylor Jungmann by the way, just so when we bump this thread in a few years, I will look really smart.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:28 PM
I love Taylor Jungmann by the way, just so when we bump this thread in a few years, I will look really smart.

I like him too. He doesn't overpower you, but he knows how to pitch.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 06:29 PM
I'm hoping the Mets go Jungmann so calm down everyone.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:29 PM
I love Taylor Jungmann by the way, just so when we bump this thread in a few years, I will look really smart.

We think alike man. The guy's got great stuff. I'm just a little bit concerned about the elbow issues that he's had.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:29 PM
I hope KC takes Starling.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:30 PM
We think alike man. The guy's got great stuff. I'm just a little bit concerned about the elbow issues that he's had.

Everyone's got elbow issues. It's the shoulder that would bother me. I just think Jungmann is so safe and polished.

KC gets Bubba Starling... wow. Please play football.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:31 PM
I hope KC takes Starling.

You got that one right. More great talent in KC.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:32 PM
Rendon to the Nats? That'd be some sick offensive power there once he and Harper get up to the bigs.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:33 PM
Rendon to the Nats? That'd be some sick offensive power there once he and Harper get up to the bigs.

I really think they need another starter.

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 06:34 PM
As an M's fan am terribly disappointed. Hultzen is a great fit for Safeco and could help as early as next June but if this didnt want to pick again at 2 it needed to pick a superstar. We have so few players to build around.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:34 PM
I really think they need another starter.

I agree, that'd be nice, but at this point Rendon is that much better than any pitcher available.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:35 PM
If the Nats take Rendon, they'll be unbelieveable if Rendon checks out medically.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:36 PM
Wow, Washington with arguably the top player in the draft.

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 06:37 PM
Time for more Crappy trade rumors on Ryan Zimmermann.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 06:38 PM
Nats get best player in draft 3 years in a row through sheer luck.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:39 PM
Callis says Archie Bradley to Arizona @ 7

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:42 PM
Good pick, but they better hope they can sign him.

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 06:44 PM
Big gamble by Zona at 7. But terrific pick if he pans out.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:46 PM
Does Hultzen remind anyone of Brian Matusz?

marshallb
06-06-2011, 06:48 PM
If Bradley does sign, that D'Backs rotation is looking sick: Hudson, Kennedy, Parker, Bauer, and Bradley.

Hines
06-06-2011, 06:55 PM
If Bradley does sign, that D'Backs rotation is looking sick: Hudson, Kennedy, Parker, Bauer, and Bradley.

Cole, Taillon, Heredia, and Allie(if he remains a starter) is better!!! :)

T-RICH49
06-06-2011, 06:56 PM
my cpu froze earlier so let me just say...BUBBA...BUBBA STARLING Y'ALL

RealityCheck
06-06-2011, 06:57 PM
Loving this draft so far.

djp
06-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Dylan Bundy has the emotions of Data from Star Trek

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Matsuz had average velo for a righty but really good secondary stuff. Hultzen has good velo for a lefty, a good changeup but his slider and curve are not there.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 06:58 PM
The MLB draft is complete and total chickenshit. Only baseball would have a draft that's so screwed up that teams don't pick players in order of their quality.

Rendon falls to 6? Nonsense.

djp
06-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Matsuz had average velo for a righty but really good secondary stuff. Hultzen has good velo for a lefty, a good changeup but his slider and curve are not there.

If Matusz has average velocity for a righthander, that's one talented individual considering he pitches lefthanded.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 07:03 PM
The MLB draft is complete and total chickenshit. Only baseball would have a draft that's so screwed up that teams don't pick players in order of their quality.

Rendon falls to 6? Nonsense.

You're kidding right? Since when does the NFL take players in order of quality.

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 07:03 PM
:D I'm sorry total brain fart there. Got confused between him and Tillman the guy we gave up for Bedard.

djp
06-06-2011, 07:04 PM
:D I'm sorry total brain fart there. I was thinking Chris Tillman former M's prospect.

No worries. I've made the same mistake before, especially when teams have multiple pitchers around the same development cycle.

nepg
06-06-2011, 07:06 PM
You're kidding right? Since when does the NFL take players in order of quality.
Or pass on them because of injury concerns...oh wait...

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 07:06 PM
I dont even get why i got confused between the 2. Tillman was a power righty. Just the disappointment and surprise of the M's pick I guess. Why should all Seattle area teams have weird drafts this year?

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 07:13 PM
You're kidding right? Since when does the NFL take players in order of quality.

I'm actually not kidding. Maybe I stopped short of fully explaining its absurdity. Players fall based on signability, which is stupid. You don't really have that problem in other sports.

We bemoan the NFL's exorbitant payouts to rookies on their first contracts, but at least teams don't shy away from them over money squabbling.

The rich just get richer in MLB's draft.

djp
06-06-2011, 07:17 PM
I'm actually not kidding. Maybe I stopped short of fully explaining its absurdity. Players fall based on signability, which is stupid. You don't really have that problem in other sports.

We bemoan the NFL's exorbitant payouts to rookies on their first contracts, but at least teams don't shy away from them over money squabbling.

The rich just get richer in MLB's draft.

Teams are now spending way more on the draft realizing that pre-FA talent is the way to go to be successful. It's not that big of an issue anymore, to be honest. Plus, you guys got Porcello due to signability, so you can't be too upset.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 07:22 PM
Teams are now spending way more on the draft realizing that pre-FA talent is the way to go to be successful. It's not that big of an issue anymore, to be honest. Plus, you guys got Porcello due to signability, so you can't be too upset.

The Tigers always spend where other teams neglect to. I like having that advantage.

But it still just seems so dumb to me. I'm also kinda thrown by the various levels of development teams have to pick from (college or high school).

I report on high school baseball in the Metro Detroit area, and I just don't see the thrill of drafting high schoolers who are so far off in terms of reaching the big leagues.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 07:24 PM
Well everyone had us Nimmo but I'm suprised we still went with him this early. I wanted one of the college SP's but I'm strangely happy with the pick.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 07:24 PM
Rendon fell because of medicals not signability anyway. In fact the hard guys to sign all went around where they were supposed to.

MaxV
06-06-2011, 07:25 PM
I don't know, Zak.

I liked other players at this point.

I was very high on Guerrieri.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 07:26 PM
I don't know, Zak.

I liked other players at this point.

I was very high on Guerrieri.

I liked Guerrieri as well but he had huge makeup concerns. Like I said I really did want Meyer, Gray, or Barnes there but I don't know I feel like this is going to work out well.

asdf1223
06-06-2011, 07:27 PM
Agree with DJP, teams are spending much more on prospects these days. The Pirates one of the most notoriously cheap orgs payed a ton of cash to Taillon and gave Allie $2.5million dollars.

The second point which I agree with you is that predicting how high school kids would develop is impossible. You cant pay a high school kid millions of dollars just because he has good bat speed or throws 100miles an hour. Best talent doesnt always mean that they will reach that ceiling though.

princefielder28
06-06-2011, 07:32 PM
The Brewers two picks were both big in stature, college kids who seem like prospects that can work their way through the system quickly...thoughts on the combination of Taylor Jungmann and Jed Bradley???

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 07:37 PM
I like Jungmann much much better than Bradley but good job overall. If Bradley can add one more pitch to the Fb/Cu he can be a good #2/3.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 07:38 PM
The Brewers two picks were both big in stature, college kids who seem like prospects that can work their way through the system quickly...thoughts on the combination of Taylor Jungmann and Jed Bradley???

Several of us were discussing that we liked Jungmann early on in the draft, and Bradley had a bit of a down year, but is a typical pitchability lefty, seems like a #3 type to me. Both should be able to advance quickly through the minors. I liked the picks, really helping to reload their pitching prospects after they gave up a bunch to get Greinke and Marcum.

MaxV
06-06-2011, 07:41 PM
I liked Guerrieri as well but he had huge makeup concerns. Like I said I really did want Meyer, Gray, or Barnes there but I don't know I feel like this is going to work out well.

I hope so.

What's Nimmo's upside?

Philliez01
06-06-2011, 07:48 PM
I'm willing to bet the Phillies go after Jackie Bradley, Jr. if he's there. A few of the more "toolsy" OF'ers haven't done too hot in the Minors with little signs of development (D'Arby Myers and Anthony Hewitt instantly comes to mind).

marshallb
06-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Surprised that Matt Barnes is still available. Heard stuff about him as high as 6th, and in BA's final mock, they had him going 7th.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 07:50 PM
Surprised that Matt Barnes is still available. Heard stuff about him as high as 6th, and in BA's final mock, they had him going 7th.

Haha, right after I post this, Boston jumps on him.

nepg
06-06-2011, 07:51 PM
The most shocking thing I learned today is that Wyoming doesn't have high school baseball... Ban them from the union!

marshallb
06-06-2011, 07:55 PM
Dammit. I was hoping that Anderson would fall to the Twins pick. Oh well...

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 07:57 PM
I hope so.

What's Nimmo's upside?

A lot of people think he is similar to Mike Trout.

bofadabizzles
06-06-2011, 07:57 PM
Not sure if there's any Marlins fans but if there are you just got the guy I wanted to fall to the Rays, Jose Fernandez from Alonso HS in Tampa. Good pick, dude is the truth and as long as he stays healthy he'll be the next in a long line of good ball players from the Tampa Bay area.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 07:58 PM
Serious question: How can you guys know so much about all these players that you've never seen play first hand? I can see how people are into the NFL draft (because we've all seen them play on TV), but not MLB. You just rely on scouts' opinions?

nepg
06-06-2011, 08:00 PM
They don't know anything. It's the same with hockey and recruiting (football & basketball). Just tons of time on their hands to read Baseball America.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 08:00 PM
Serious question: How can you guys know so much about all these players that you've never seen play first hand? I can see how people are into the NFL draft (because we've all seen them play on TV), but not MLB. You just rely on scouts' opinions?

For me it's basically the draft expert scouting reports I read plus MLB does a good job of putting some video up of the bigger name guys. There is a lot of info out there on these players though and it's getting better every year.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 08:03 PM
For me it's basically the draft expert scouting reports I read plus MLB does a good job of putting some video up of the bigger name guys. There is a lot of info out there on these players though and it's getting better every year.

Yea, that's a lot of it, but you can look up videos on youtube, and there are some college games on TV, especially with the playoffs starting.

Philliez01
06-06-2011, 08:03 PM
Serious question: How can you guys know so much about all these players that you've never seen play first hand? I can see how people are into the NFL draft (because we've all seen them play on TV), but not MLB. You just rely on scouts' opinions?

Reading scouting reports, watching prospect videos that are put up, looking at programs they came out of, and possibly limited TV time. Then you draw your own conclusions.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 08:05 PM
Now I gotta hope that Kolten Wong makes it to the Twins.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 08:06 PM
Now I gotta hope that Kolten Wong makes it to the Twins.

I knew that by posting this he would go right here.

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Jinxed yourself Marshall. It'll be Michael for you.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 08:08 PM
Now I gotta hope that Kolten Wong makes it to the Twins.

REEEEACH! ESPN has him #75 overall.

marshallb
06-06-2011, 08:11 PM
REEEEACH! ESPN has him #75 overall.

KLaw said in his chat today that he didn't like him, but a lot of the other analysts are high on him: Mayo had him at 25, BA had him at 27. He doesn't have much upside, but he can hit and will advance quickly.

fenikz
06-06-2011, 08:11 PM
If Bradley does sign, that D'Backs rotation is looking sick: Hudson, Kennedy, Parker, Bauer, and Bradley.

you left off Skaggs

and 100% positive he will sign

and no Hines youres isnt close

Borat
06-06-2011, 08:11 PM
REEEEACH! ESPN has him #75 overall.

That's because Keith Law doesn't like his size. Pretty much everybody else thinks he will be a solid MLBer.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 08:12 PM
KLaw said in his chat today that he didn't like him, but a lot of the other analysts are high on him: Mayo had him at 25, BA had him at 27. He doesn't have much upside, but he can hit and will advance quickly.

Yeah, I was just kidding. As a fan of a team without a second baseman, I actually wanted him for Detroit.

Nalej
06-06-2011, 08:13 PM
I knew that by posting this he would go right here.

Don't know much about these prospects but that's usually a good thing.

/Boston fan

Giantsfan1080
06-06-2011, 08:15 PM
Law is the best:

keithlaw:
Means he lacks tools. RT @jryager (http://twitter.com/%40jryager): @keithlaw (http://twitter.com/%40keithlaw) MLB guys kept saying Kolton Wong is a "winner". what the hell does that mean?

marshallb
06-06-2011, 08:15 PM
you left off Skaggs

and 100% positive he will sign

and no Hines youres isnt close

You're right. I forgot about him. That rotation will be sick if 3 of those 4 work out.

Xiomera
06-06-2011, 08:16 PM
Law is the best:

keithlaw:
Means he lacks tools. RT @jryager (http://twitter.com/%40jryager): @keithlaw (http://twitter.com/%40keithlaw) MLB guys kept saying Kolton Wong is a "winner". what the hell does that mean?

It's true. It's the same as describing a player as "Gritty."