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FUNBUNCHER
05-16-2011, 07:09 PM
When he came out of Michigan State in 2007, I was soooo high on this guy.

I know he's had injury problems, but you can't tell me that guys like Beck/Kolb are better options as starters than a healthy Stanton, IMO.

Okay I haven't seen him take many snaps, but could he be that different a football player than he was as a Spartan???


If beats the injury bug, does this guy have the stuff to be an NFL starter??

Yes? No? No opinion??

Shane P. Hallam
05-16-2011, 07:52 PM
Errr...I think this is a joke? No?

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu117/czerw/Ha-ha-ha-What-a-story-Mark.jpg

Woody56
05-16-2011, 07:56 PM
Doubt it..

Scotty D
05-16-2011, 08:03 PM
Stanton played decent last year. He led them to a OT road win against Tampa late in the season when they were fighting for a playoff spot. He's a good QB to have on the roster but I wouldn't give him a starting job.

Cudders
05-16-2011, 09:33 PM
He might be a serviceable stopgap that can be had on the cheap, but I don't think a team would ever pass up on an upgrade because Drew Stanton is on their roster.

He can, however, teach the youngins how to dougie.

Mr.Regular
05-16-2011, 09:37 PM
I liked him in college too, and he's played decently in Detroit when given a chance. But...Doesn't look like anything close to a franchise guy IMO. Nice backup to have, nothing more IMO.

phlysac
05-16-2011, 09:39 PM
He can, however, teach the youngins how to dougie.

Ouch. Bad timing...

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Brown Leader
05-16-2011, 09:51 PM
Absolutely. The kind of guy who could surprise if given the opportunity. He's got a lot of what you want in a starter-mobility-arm strength-tenacity-size. To this point, his biggest issue has been injuries. Honestly, before last season I had no idea what happened to this guy, but I also liked him coming out, and he showed some ability last year. The guys got just as much potential as say, the Jesus, Flynn, Leinart, or Young. Fringe starter with upside.

FUNBUNCHER
05-17-2011, 01:39 AM
This time of year is when I like to check out other team's depth charts, and try to see which guys could be first teamers with a different franchise.

In a convo IRL, I told someone I liked Stanton more than Gabbert/Locker coming out this year.

Injuries IMO have really held Stanton back, but in retrospect I think the Lions QB situation may have the most depth of any in the NFL.

At 27, he's still a young guy for the QB position, but I doubt he's on many team's radar. If the Lions make a serious playoff push this year, maybe his profile elevates.

Ness
05-17-2011, 04:54 AM
Unless he magically makes a radical change like Drew Brees did and a light comes on, I highly doubt it.

killxswitch
05-17-2011, 01:45 PM
Is he even the best backup QB on his team? I thought Shaun Hill did a solid job with Stafford out last year.

Prowler
05-17-2011, 02:03 PM
He hasn't impressed me at all. I like him and still want him on our team as 3rd string, but he isn't starter material. He just looks timid. Its like he lost his balls when he was drafted. He just doesn't cut it loose. He's made strides and might be a Tommy Maddox type, but he's definitely not an elite guy. If I were a team without a franchise QB like San Francisco, then I might take a shot at him and let him sit for 2 more years.

That's also part of the problem. He was with the Lions for a couple of years, then we had a rash of injuries (not only last year) in either 2008 or 2009 and the coaching staff still didn't want to play him. They were 'afraid of embarrassing him.' After sitting on the bench for more than a season?

Brown Leader
05-17-2011, 03:25 PM
This time of year is when I like to check out other team's depth charts, and try to see which guys could be first teamers with a different franchise.

In a convo IRL, I told someone I liked Stanton more than Gabbert/Locker coming out this year.

Injuries IMO have really held Stanton back, but in retrospect I think the Lions QB situation may have the most depth of any in the NFL.

At 27, he's still a young guy for the QB position, but I doubt he's on many team's radar. If the Lions make a serious playoff push this year, maybe his profile elevates.

I thought he was a UFA this year?


Is he even the best backup QB on his team? I thought Shaun Hill did a solid job with Stafford out last year.

Shaun Hill is a tad underrated-he could start for quite a few teams based on how he played last year.

Maybe This Year Mayhew
05-17-2011, 04:22 PM
Stanton hasn't had injury problems other than his first year. Martz tried to change everything Stanton did mechanics wise in 2007 but he got hurt, could have come back but Martz really didn't want anything to do with him.

2008 he was way too young and inexperienced and was beat out by Dan Orlovsky after Kitna went down and they signed Culpepper off the street once Dan O and Kitna got hurt. Not a good sign but that coaching staff were idiots and he basically lost a year to learn anything of value under Colletto and Marinelli plus 2007 he was on IR so he had limited learning.

2009 Linehan saved him a little bit but he's nothing more than a 3rd string QB and they still chose Daunte over him once Stafford got hurt and couldn't play. Poor mechanics still not a great arm. He is mobile but he's not very sharp. Played decent but didn't actually do much against Zona then played awful at San Fran and got benched for Daunte in the finale.

2010
Hill is clearly the backup and played fairly well. In fact they rushed Hill back against Buffalo in terrilbe weather with a broken forearm due to lack of confidence in Stanton. Stanton has no chance to be the backup in Detroit. He has some value though and was given a 3rd round tender if he's restricted this year and depending the CBA may be a free agent or restricted free agent. Stanton played suprisingly decent last year though against Chicago, at Tampa, at Giants in the second half coming in cold and did just enough against Green Bay although one td drive is far from impressive. But once Hill was ready, he came back against the Dolphins and Vikings. Stanton did cost us the Jets game though after Stafford got hurt throwing a terrible incompete pass on 3rd down that if he took a sack and run more time off the Lions could have won the game. Solid 3rd string, possibly a second string in the right scheme. Drafted way too high and we passed on David Harris. Damn you Millen.

Saints-Tigers
05-17-2011, 11:22 PM
LMao, Stanton is terrible. Anyone saying that he could start ever actually watch him?

A lot of guys can start, it doesn't mean they'll be good at it.

Brothgar
05-18-2011, 10:57 AM
Well the OP does have some points like.

1. Beck vs Stanton? I'll take Stanton any day.
2. Pay a 1st round pick for Kolb or a 3rd/4th for Stanton? I'll take Stanton.

That said Vince Young is a much more attractive option IMO considering you will be able to get him for a 5th round selection

Maybe This Year Mayhew
05-18-2011, 12:23 PM
Well the OP does have some points like.

1. Beck vs Stanton? I'll take Stanton any day.
2. Pay a 1st round pick for Kolb or a 3rd/4th for Stanton? I'll take Stanton.

That said Vince Young is a much more attractive option IMO considering you will be able to get him for a 5th round selection

A 3rd or 4th for Stanton would be highway robbery by Mayhew. A trade like that probably would never happen but then I saw the Charlie Whitehurst trade.

I'd need to see more of Beck to say Beck over Stanton. I know what I have in Stanton and if he's my starter, you got problems.

1st for Kolb is risky business but some teams may be desperate enough.

boknows34
05-18-2011, 12:42 PM
Rotoworld reporting today Stanton wants to re-sign with the Lions and that he could be groomed as Stafford's long-term backup as Shaun Hill is coming off back surgery and has only one year left on his contract.

TACKLE
05-18-2011, 01:19 PM
unequivocally yes.

CrankthatCrabtree
05-18-2011, 01:24 PM
Rotoworld reporting today Stanton wants to re-sign with the Lions and that he could be groomed as Stafford's long-term backup as Shaun Hill is coming off back surgery and has only one year left on his contract.

Makes sense. If I am a backup I would want to be in Detroit as well. With the starter having major injury concerns it provides a great opportunity for playing time

Iamcanadian
05-18-2011, 03:33 PM
Zero chance he will ever be a NFL starting QB, 3rd stringer on most teams.

Brown Leader
03-21-2013, 11:27 AM
It's time to dust this thread off.:banana:


According to the Associated Press, there's "no doubt" the Cardinals are leaning toward Drew Stanton as their 2013 starting quarterback.
On Wednesday, coach Bruce Arians insisted his team doesn't need to hunt for a quarterback. "We already found one," he said. Arians' faith in Stanton appears real and not a smokescreen. Stanton knows the system after spending last year as Andrew Luck's backup, and has good arm strength and athleticism. "I have all the confidence in the world with him being our starter," Arians said. Stanton remains unlikely to be viewed as Arizona's long-term quarterback solution. We do expect him to open the 2013 season as the starter.

Punisher
03-21-2013, 11:33 AM
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TitanHope
03-21-2013, 11:40 AM
Rotoworld reporting today Stanton wants to re-sign with the Lions and that he could be groomed as Stafford's long-term backup as Shaun Hill is coming off back surgery and has only one year left on his contract.

Not just anybody can replace Shaun Hill.

jrdrylie
03-21-2013, 11:40 AM
Well, since he is competing against John Skelton and Ryan Lindley, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up benig an NFL Starter

Brothgar
03-21-2013, 11:54 AM
Well the OP does have some points like.

1. Beck vs Stanton? I'll take Stanton any day.
2. Pay a 1st round pick for Kolb or a 3rd/4th for Stanton? I'll take Stanton.

That said Vince Young is a much more attractive option IMO considering you will be able to get him for a 5th round selection

I don't know how I am to feel about my post. On one hand I was correct about Stanton being a starter in the league. On the other I advocated for a team to give Vince Young a shot eww.

FUNBUNCHER
03-21-2013, 12:11 PM
QB is one of those positions in the NFL where you really only get one chance to show your goods. There are very few do overs for QBs unless you were a high draft pick.

I can't believe guys like Rich Gannon and Stan Humphries are those rare anomalies in the NFL. IMO the problem is, if you aren't a first round pick, you aren't given years and years to either develop into a quality starter, or prove how mediocre you are as a QB.
In today's NFL there are no 'late bloomers' playing QB drafted outside of the first round. Either you look legit the moment you're allowed to finally start, or that's it.

Guys like Jason Campbell and Alex Smith were given YEARS by their original franchises to show something and came up lacking.

I don't know if Stanton will actually be the opening day starter for the Cards, and if he is, be able to keep the starting gig, but it's cool to see a guy who was stuck in depth chart hell finally get a shot.

Grizzlegom
03-21-2013, 01:27 PM
I always liked Stanton, hope he can do well for the Cards. Whether they draft a QB in the first or second will probably determine whether he gets a legitimate chance to start or not.

mightytitan9
03-21-2013, 01:31 PM
He could start. But that doesn't mean he's good

cmarq83
03-21-2013, 01:43 PM
I'm rooting for Stanton to start and do well simply because it'll make the Tebow situation in NY even more hilarious.

LonghornsLegend
03-22-2013, 10:09 AM
Well, Fitzgerald decided to be loyal and we see what he's been given to work with. Hope this is a lesson for future FA's. Boldin left, played with a better QB and got a ring. Just annoys me when teams ruin HOFers in their prime.

Saints-Tigers
03-22-2013, 01:01 PM
Stanton has some of the happiest feet I've ever seen.

BallerT1215
03-22-2013, 01:07 PM
Well, Fitzgerald decided to be loyal and we see what he's been given to work with. Hope this is a lesson for future FA's. Boldin left, played with a better QB and got a ring. Just annoys me when teams ruin HOFers in their prime.

It's sad when every NFL fan realizes how great Fitzgerald is, but there is nothing he can do about it.

hockey619
03-23-2013, 08:44 AM
It's sad when every NFL fan realizes how great Fitzgerald is, but there is nothing he can do about it.

hes the barry sanders of this era. an all time great hampered by something or another outside of his control his whole career. such a shame, a total class act and great player. the cardinals should reward him with a trade to a contender at some point ala ray bourque

fenikz
03-23-2013, 04:03 PM
he is now :D

Wodwo
03-23-2013, 05:08 PM
Stanton has some of the happiest feet I've ever seen.

What do you expect? They escaped from Rex Ryan.

stlouisfan37
03-23-2013, 07:03 PM
Arians has shown that he can get the most out of QB's. Stanton ad to have something to begin with or we wouldn't even be having this discussion. My money is on him to do well. I don't see a Pro Bowler, but I don't see a bellyflop either.

fenikz
03-23-2013, 07:14 PM
IDK if I know Arian's personality very well yet but he seems to be generally in love with Stanton and the progression he has made over the past season and this offseason

Mufasa
03-23-2013, 08:36 PM
Arians has shown that he can get the most out of QB's. Stanton ad to have something to begin with or we wouldn't even be having this discussion. My money is on him to do well. I don't see a Pro Bowler, but I don't see a bellyflop either.
Who? Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Andrew Luck, yeah that must have been a real challenge.

FUNBUNCHER
03-23-2013, 08:46 PM
Who? Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Andrew Luck, yeah that must have been a real challenge.
LOL. Agreed.
Just because you get to coach elite QB talent doesn't mean you know how to IDENTIFY that talent when it's your job to choose them.

After coaching Steve Young and Elway on his resume, Mike SHanahan went into the 2010 season believing John Beck and Rex Grossman were both capable of leading the SKins to the playoffs.

Bruce Arians has never had the responsibility before of choosing his starting QB.
However in this case I hope he's on the mark.

ChiFan24
03-24-2013, 12:44 AM
I hate Drew Stanton more than anyone in the league and I hope Darnell Dockett ***** his girlfriend.

stlouisfan37
03-24-2013, 02:18 AM
Who? Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Andrew Luck, yeah that must have been a real challenge.

You know those guys didn't just achieve greatness on their own. Especially Roethlisberger. I guarantee Ben tells everyone that Arians was a huge part of his growth.

It's kind of like suggesting that Bill Walsh wasn't that great of a coach because he had Montana, Rice and Craig. But they weren't Montana, Rice and Craig when they got there. They were just rookies who hadn't done anything.

Mufasa
03-24-2013, 07:13 AM
You know those guys didn't just achieve greatness on their own. Especially Roethlisberger. I guarantee Ben tells everyone that Arians was a huge part of his growth.

It's kind of like suggesting that Bill Walsh wasn't that great of a coach because he had Montana, Rice and Craig. But they weren't Montana, Rice and Craig when they got there. They were just rookies who hadn't done anything.

Manning and Luck were #1 overall picks and two of the best QB prospects of all time. They could have had a monkey coaching them and still be great. Roethlisberger was headed into his 4th year and was already a Super Bowl Champion by the time Arians took over as Offensive Coordinator from WR coach in Pittsburgh.

I think Arians is a pretty good offensive mind, but I'm not going to give him much credit for those QBs.

Grizzlegom
03-24-2013, 07:31 AM
Arians helped Tim Couch look like a competent QB in 2002. Just sayin.

Mufasa
03-24-2013, 07:58 AM
Can't say I recall actually watching much of 2002 Tim Couch, but his numbers were hardly different than the rest of his career.

stlouisfan37
03-25-2013, 11:49 AM
Manning and Luck were #1 overall picks and two of the best QB prospects of all time. They could have had a monkey coaching them and still be great. Roethlisberger was headed into his 4th year and was already a Super Bowl Champion by the time Arians took over as Offensive Coordinator from WR coach in Pittsburgh.

I think Arians is a pretty good offensive mind, but I'm not going to give him much credit for those QBs.

Fair enough...I thought he was there much earlier in Ben's career so I stand corrected.

So I guess this is the biggest challenge of his career:-)

Grizzlegom
03-25-2013, 11:59 AM
Can't say I recall actually watching much of 2002 Tim Couch, but his numbers were hardly different than the rest of his career.

He flashed the skills that made him get taken 1st overall and he led the Browns to the playoffs, with a number of 4th quarter comeback wins. His numbers might not have been great, but he was definitely more than adequate as a starter that season. He broke his leg in the last game of the season though, and never really recaptured the magic after that.

VernonLawson89
03-25-2013, 02:13 PM
LOL Drew Stanton

Brown Leader
03-25-2013, 02:27 PM
He flashed the skills that made him get taken 1st overall and he led the Browns to the playoffs, with a number of 4th quarter comeback wins. His numbers might not have been great, but he was definitely more than adequate as a starter that season. He broke his leg in the last game of the season though, and never really recaptured the magic after that.

Stop. Couch never flashed #1 overall skills. And he was only more than adequate as a starter for a couple games his whole career.

ImBrotherCain
03-25-2013, 02:27 PM
LOL Drew Stanton

Good addition to the conversation.

:gtfo:

Monomach
03-25-2013, 02:48 PM
Who? Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, and Andrew Luck, yeah that must have been a real challenge.

Why not? Everyone is still crediting Marc Trestman for Steve Young and Rich Gannon when they were already good before their teams hired him. Isn't that how it works?

:njx:

VernonLawson89
03-25-2013, 02:59 PM
Good addition to the conversation.

:gtfo:

Sorry if i hurt your feelings...

ImBrotherCain
03-25-2013, 03:06 PM
Sorry if i hurt your feelings...

To be honest I could give a **** about you or the thread... you're just a troll.

VernonLawson89
03-25-2013, 03:14 PM
To be honest I could give a **** about you or the thread... you're just a troll.

Calm down bro, why so serious? I can't laugh at a division rival player?

Are you related to Drew Stanton or something?

ImBrotherCain
03-25-2013, 03:17 PM
Calm down bro, why so serious? I can't laugh at a division rival player?

Are you related to Drew Stanton or something?

Maybe I am him.

Not really... To be honest I was going to change that as it was far to hostile but alas twas to late.

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Ness
03-25-2013, 03:17 PM
To be honest I could give a **** about you or the thread... you're just a troll.

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ImBrotherCain
03-25-2013, 03:21 PM
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FlyingElvis
03-25-2013, 03:41 PM
My man Brian Hoyer will finally get a reasonable shot to win out a camp battle. Do it!

Iamcanadian
03-25-2013, 04:55 PM
Second string QB's are always a huge risk to be successful in the NFL, few have ever accomplished the task but there are always exceptions and only time will be able to answer that question.