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ellsy82
06-02-2011, 01:45 PM
Was wondering what kind of draft class we're looking at for nose guards in 2012. I don't care if their 43 or 34 front guys...who do we potentially have aside from the following:

Alameda Ta'amu
Kawann Short*
Josh Chapman
Kerry Murphy*
D'Angelo McCray

?

ToldLikeItIs
06-03-2011, 01:07 AM
Mike Daniels DT Iowa
He could be a 3rd round guy

Duffman57
06-03-2011, 01:22 AM
Mike Martin, the guy from Michigan is a small NT but he's a Kelly Greg type player.

Duffman57
06-03-2011, 01:32 AM
Mike Daniels DT Iowa
He could be a 3rd round guy

You do know he's 6'1" 275 right. How on gods green earth is he a NT?

ellsy82
06-04-2011, 02:01 AM
You do know he's 6'1" 275 right. How on gods green earth is he a NT?

Interesting you'd say that. You know your boy is only 290, right?

phlysac
06-04-2011, 09:49 AM
Interesting you'd say that. You know your boy is only 290, right?

By 290 do you mean 299? If not, please link for the enjoyment of this argument over meaningless weights a year prior to next draft.

PossibleCabbage
06-04-2011, 02:38 PM
You do know he's 6'1" 275 right. How on gods green earth is he a NT?

How they play is more important than how much they weigh. Anybody can put on weight, not everybody can play the position at any weight.

Plus 6'1" or so is a good height for a nose tackle. Helps them combat the natural leverage of centers.

wicket
06-04-2011, 05:11 PM
How they play is more important than how much they weigh. Anybody can put on weight, not everybody can play the position at any weight.

Plus 6'1" or so is a good height for a nose tackle. Helps them combat the natural leverage of centers.

this is true to an extend as in guys weighing 320 can get away with playing a 340 position but not a whole lot of guys can put on 60ish pounds well

ellsy82
06-16-2011, 04:04 PM
A couple of fatties to watch this year are John Jenkins (Jr) and Kwame Geathers (RsSo). Both are draftable. Both are around 6-4 350 lbs. They'll be the run stoppers in Georgia's DL.

OSUGiants17
06-16-2011, 04:16 PM
Arizona State has two BIG DT's

http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000aK4sjt5CYRU/s/600/Saia-Falahola-Vs-Washington-File-Art-pic-3.jpg
Saia Falahola

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/013/183/ws_original_display_image.jpg?1308000284
Will Sutton

BUSTKUNTLAWL
06-16-2011, 04:30 PM
Was wondering what kind of draft class we're looking at for nose guards in 2012. I don't care if their 43 or 34 front guys...who do we potentially have aside from the following:

Alameda Ta'amu
Kawann Short*
Josh Chapman
Kerry Murphy*
D'Angelo McCray

?

I thought McCray had moved to OG.

I find it hard to believe he is an NFL prospect.

ellsy82
06-16-2011, 04:59 PM
Arizona State has two BIG DT's

Saia Falahola

Will Sutton

Didn't Falahola graduate this year?

TACKLE
06-16-2011, 05:00 PM
I thought McCray had moved to OG.

You are correct.

Though his teammate Dontari Poe has the size and athleticism that could allow him to rise up the boards.

OSUGiants17
06-16-2011, 05:20 PM
Didn't Falahola graduate this year?
Lololol great call, I feel like an idiot right now

ellsy82
06-16-2011, 06:55 PM
Lololol great call, I feel like an idiot right now

No big deal. Thought the name sounded awefully familiar. Other guy, Sutton, I'd like to learn more about.

no bare feet
06-22-2011, 07:15 AM
What about a guy like Montori Hughes?

SolidGold
06-22-2011, 07:21 AM
Derek Wolfe Cincinatti - He is listed at 6'5 300 so he might be a better fit at 5 technique but he plays DT in college

TACKLE
06-22-2011, 09:56 AM
What about a guy like Montori Hughes?

Hughes was released by the UT football team....academic reasons.

http://www.volunteertv.com/news/headlines/123539034.html


At this point, my horse in this race is Dontari Poe from Memphis. I mentioned him a couple posts, but he's a guy I'm really intrigued by. Admittedly, I've only seen a very limited amount of him, but from what I have seen he is an excellent athlete for a 6'5 350 man. He has rare athleticism for a guy his size and is built the way you want your NT's built. Obviously he's a big anchor in the middle but he actually surprised me with his ability to get up field and pass rush. He's a raw player at this point and he's only a junior so we may get to see him continue to develop for two more college seasons. But as long as it's still legal to run the ball and as long as teams still run the 3-4 defense, players will Poe's combination of size and athleticism will always get pushed up boards.

ellsy82
06-22-2011, 10:58 AM
Hughes was released by the UT football team....academic reasons.

http://www.volunteertv.com/news/headlines/123539034.html


At this point, my horse in this race is Dontari Poe from Memphis. I mentioned him a couple posts, but he's a guy I'm really intrigued by. Admittedly, I've only seen a very limited amount of him, but from what I have seen he is an excellent athlete for a 6'5 350 man. He has rare athleticism for a guy his size and is built the way you want your NT's built. Obviously he's a big anchor in the middle but he actually surprised me with his ability to get up field and pass rush. He's a raw player at this point and he's only a junior so we may get to see him continue to develop for two more college seasons. But as long as it's still legal to run the ball and as long as teams still run the 3-4 defense, players will Poe's combination of size and athleticism will always get pushed up boards.

Yeah...thanks for bringing him up. Underclassman, but the guy is strong as an ox. Scratch that, he's like a mix between some type of ox/gorilla mutant.

ellsy82
06-22-2011, 11:44 PM
You are correct.

Though his teammate Dontari Poe has the size and athleticism that could allow him to rise up the boards.

Tackle, this guy is built like a brick shhhithouse. Holy cow.

At 6-5 and 350 pounds, the junior lineman is capable of a 700-pound squat, a 500-pound bench and a 400-pound power clean according to Ryan Cidzik, who is currently the interim director of the football strength and conditioning program. Cidzik has trained numerous NFL players while working with programs such as the New York Jets and the Cleveland Browns, and he says, "I've been around some very strong defensive linemen when I was coaching in the NFL, and Poe's up there with all of them. If I have another year with him, he will probably be the strongest player I've ever been around."

Poe was one of two defensive linemen last season who started all 12 games. He was second on the defensive line in tackles with 41, and tied for second on the team in sacks with two. He was credited with three QB hurries and a pass breakup as a sophomore in 2010, and posted a seven-tackle effort against UTEP. His sacks were against UTEP and Marshall, and his sack versus the Thundering Herd was for an 11-yard loss. Poe was a 2009 C-USA All-Freshman honoree and was an honorable mention all C-USA selection in 2010. In the 2011 Blue-Gray Game, Poe was named the Defensive Most Valuable Player.