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03-23-2007, 08:07 PM

since this site only allows 4 pics a post then you have to get me a chance to post the whole thing...bare with me

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“Hello, I am ESPN’s Chris Berman and I would like to Welcome you to Blacks’s 2007 NFL Mock Draft. This Mock is meant for discussion, entertainment, and projection and Black spent a lot of time on it. So the least you can do is critique with intelligence and explanations. Do Not say “this will NEVER happen”. Black does not get his opinions from Mel Kiper or ESPN’s big board, so if you disagree just state it, no problem. But Be Mature about it. Any other use of this broadcast is strictly prohibited. And with that said, the OAK-AND RAY-DURS are on the clock.......”

1. Oakland Raiders-Jamarcus Rusell QB LSU
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“Come on Jamarcus, welcome to Raider Nation”

For the longest I felt Adrian Peterson would be the best possible selection here but after the signing of Rhodes its clear that he will not be the pick. The Raiders struggled on offense all throughout the year, and ended up losing some games that even a mediocre offense could have found a way to win. The QB and OL situation seems to be the biggest question mark, and after the Gallery debacle then the only logical pick seems to be Jamarcus Russell, the strong armed QB that Davis and Kiffen should both love. It’s the only logical pick, unless of course the Raiders trade WR Randy Moss. The on-going rumor that Moss is on the block is an indication that JR to Oakland is not a slam dunk. If they do trade Moss, or Trade for a QB like David Carr, then I do not see Al Davis passing on the best overall talent in the draft. Until one of those scenarios plays out then the Raiders will address the QB situation by adding Russell.

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03-23-2007, 08:10 PM

2. Lions-Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech
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The Lions as of now control the rest of the top 5. I’ve heard smoke screens, rumors, and trade possibilities and one of them will most likely play out. The Lions needs are essentially DE, ILB, OG and DB, but the BPA may be either QB, or the ironic pick that I have here. I have always said that Joe Thomas, economically did not make sense, since the Lions already have top notch money invested in a LT. Jon Scott and Foster will battle out in training camp for the RT spot. Then comes the Brady Quinn rumors. Its been stated publicly by the coaching staff that they are not looking at a QB at the number 2 pick. Martz has actually done most of his damage with lesser names at QB, so I for one tend to believe they will not look at QB. Gaines Adams would be somewhat of a reach, so the only other option is to trade down. I personally believe that the Lions will trade down on draft day, but if they stay put then Calvin Johnson makes the most sense. Yes from a PR standpoint, they would be the joke from every sports outlet (as if they already are not), but it would be Detroit with the last laugh. CJ is the best player in the draft(by far) and paired alongside Roy Williams could give the Lions the most dominant receiving core in the league.

3. Browns-Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame
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At this point the Browns could go in three very intriguing directions. Look to solidify their OL with Thomas, bring in a potential franchise runner with Adrian Peterson, or look for their single caller. From sources I have heard, management is demanding a QB, and they could not go wrong with the hometown kid. Quinn has gotten a lot of negative publicity and has seen his stock rise and fall, but he is still a top notch QB prospect that should start immediately in Cleveland. The RB situation is far from outstanding with Jamal Lewis, but he serves as a nice one-year starter, especially being paired with big time Free Agent signing Eric Stenbeck. There are rumors that the Browns would be willing to trade up for one of the two QB’s and would be absolutely thrilled to have Jamarcus Russell, so in my opinion they will make sure they pick up one of the QB’s come draft day, even if it means being the Lions (or even Raiders) trade partner.

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03-23-2007, 08:10 PM

4. Bucs-Laron Landry S Louisiana State
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With Calvin Johnson gone, the Bucs will definitely look to help out their aging defense. The only question is which direction will they look? Defensive End, DT, and S are all top needs on defense. Although Landry is somewhat of a reach at 4, I think its fairly possible, since S is a huge need and because of the fact that Donte Whiter went much higher then he was expected to go from the S position. Landry was a four year starter at LSU in the SEC, is can play both saftey spots. He solidified himself as a top 10 pick when he ran a 4.3 at the combine. The Bucs do not have a starting caliber S so Landry would be an immediate help and could contend for Rookie of the Year. Gruden is not a “lets trade back” type of guy, he is a known reacher. Davin Joseph, Michael Clayton, and Sebastion Janokowski were all surprising picks because the player was drafted by Gruden well before they were projected. Gaines Adams would be a great pick also, or even Amobi Okoye, who Gruden fell in love with at the combine. My head is telling my Landry, but my gut is saying Okoye, so we will see where they will go.

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5. Cardinals-Joe Thomas LT Wisconsin
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If there is such thing as a “lock” or “slam dunk” in the draft then this certainly would be it. Joe Thomas is worth trading up for in many peoples eyes, so to get him at 5 would me a dream come true to the Cardinal origination. There are a few questions to this pick though, like how effective will he be with a lefty QB, or the knee problems he suffered with during his junior season, but they will all be overridden. They lost Shelton to free agency and need more protection for Leinart and holes to be opened up for Edge. Not much explaining to do here, this will be the pick if he is available.

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03-23-2007, 08:11 PM

6. Redskins-Gaines Adams DE Clemson
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The Skins do not have many draft picks this year, so they better get it right. They had one of the worse pass rushing defenses in the NFL last year, so it would only make sense to add the best available pass rusher. There are a few rumors floating around that Laron Landry is someone they have their eye on to pair with Taylor, but with him off the board I think they address the DE. I don’t think DT is as bad off, since they drafted Golston and Montgomery last season to go along with Griffen. Adams is a tremendous pass rusher yet is strong enough to play pretty good run defense. His combine has solidified himself as the top DE in the draft, so this is around the time I expect to hear his name called.

7. Vikings-Robert Meachem WR Tennessee
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The Vikings will be praying Laron Landry falls to this spot, but if he doesnt then they will have a very interesting choice. This is a spot they would entertain trade offers, such as trading with Buffalo or maybe even the Patriots. I don’t do mock trades so if they stayed put then Anderson, WR, or Adrian Peterson would be the logical picks of interest. Chester Taylor is a potential pro bowl RB, so I don’t think Peterson would be the best possible choice. Anderson is a tremendous talent, but do the Vikings really want to invest another 1st round pick on the DE position? Meachem is highly underrated IMO, and with his combine and stellar junior season he will be a top 15 pick. The question is, are the Vikings willing to gamble on him in the top 10? Do NOT be confused and think Meachem is another workout warrior like Troy Williamson was. He has great size, and was productive in a run-first offense and had a 1,000 yard season. He breaks tackles and is more than physical enough to be a deep threat AND possession receiver. The Vikings are in dire need of some good receivers and Meachem is the best of the rest after CJ.

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03-23-2007, 08:12 PM

8. Falcons-Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma
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The Falcons need Laron Landry, but with him off the board this pick becomes a lot more interesting. I honestly think they could be setting up to grab CJ by trading up, but there has been no indication if that is what the Falcons want to do. Rich Mckay, has proven to be a GM that goes out and gets what he wants, so if they want CJ, he will be theirs. By staying put, I think Atlanta would go after the best player on the board who is indeed Adrian Peterson. He and Norwood would be apart of a tremendous three headed rushing attack(four if Warrick Dunn is still in the mix). Peterson is worthy of number one overall in my opinion, so to get him at 8 would be a steal for the orginization. He easily would be the best running back they have had since Jamaal Anderson was doing the dirty bird. Levi Brown is not out of the question or Okoye or Nelson. This will be Petrino’s first pick, so its hard to tell what exactly he will be looking for.

9. Dolphins-Levi Brown OT Penn State
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The Dolphins are a hard team to figure out right now as they could go many different ways. Looking at their CB’s on paper, you would swear up and down that it was a top need. But the S position is the focus of their secondary, and they took Jason Allen in the first round in 2006. Speaking of Allen, he controls this pick. If he stays at S, then I think they skip the secondary all together, but if he moves to CB, then I could see Miami going after Reggie Nelson. The Phins could also use a NT, but I don’t necessarily like Branch in that scheme. WR is not out of the question with Wes Welker gone to the Pats, but the place I see them going would be OT. They have a very solid OL in Vernon Carey, and could really help solidify their OL with Brown. Levi capable of playing LT, but he could very well be a RT in Miami. Ronnie Brown and whoever is QB will need some protection, and the massive Brown should help provide that.

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03-23-2007, 08:12 PM

10. Texans-Amobi Okoye DT Louisville
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The Texans lose their second round pick so I think they will try to get the best impact out of this selection. Its easy to see that they are gearing up and trying to follow the Jaguar formula of having a tremendous defensive line. Mario Williams, Travis Johnson, and Okoye could give them that dream. Okoye’s stock has risen consistently over this past year and he is now the best DT prospect in this years draft, and could possibly go as high as fourth overall. The Texans would also look at Brown if he fell, and could look at Ball Hawk Reggie Nelson, but judging from how the Texans have drafted in the past I feel this would be the pick.

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11. 49ers-Adam Carriker DE Nebraska
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The 49ers are in a transitional period on defense and I still don’t know if they will be a steady 34 team or will alternate between 43 and 34. Either way, Carriker would make the most impact of any defender left. Willis would make a lot of sense, since he can play any of the LB spots, but Carriker is the most versatile DL in the draft and should be a fixture on the line for years. He runs well in his almost 300 pound frame and CAN get to the QB. I don’t see San Francisco taking a WR this early, especially since some good one can be gotten in the later rounds.

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03-23-2007, 08:13 PM

12. Bills-Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi[/b]
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Marshawn Lynch, Alan Branch, or Pat Willis? After Branch and Lynch have had so-so off-seasons and Willis just recently ran a 4.3 at his Pro Day then I say Willis. London Fletcher is on his last legs in Buffalo and Willis can make an immediate impact like Vilma did with the Jets. The RB position is a huge question mark, but since ownership was reluctant to pay MaGahee the large contract then I don’t know if they want to pay a different running back first round money. Willis makes the most sense to me, and I fully expect the Bills to make that pick if it comes down to it. I do not count on Lynch or the Bills trading up for Peterson, I just don’t see it happening. CB is not a 1st round need, even with Clements gone. Youhbouty is an emerging player.

13. Rams-Alan Branch DT Michigan
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The Rams had the worse run defense in the NFL last season and this spot only makes sense for two positions, either DT or SLB. Pos would be a bit of a reach, and with Branch on the board at 13 then the Rams would look to anchor their DL. Rams fans have to be frustrated at the lack of results from drafting DT’s in the first round but this is a pick that needs to be made. Branch does not play nearly as strong as his size indicates but he should still develop into one of the better run stoppers in the league with good coaching. Not to be dismissed as ideas would be Ted Ginn, who would be the future replacement for Isiach Bruce. Reggie Nelson could also be taken into consideration as well as Jammal Anderson.

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03-23-2007, 08:14 PM

14. Panthers-Jammal Anderson DE Arkansas
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The panthers would have a big choice to make. Either Nelson or Anderson. Being that Anderson is projected in the top 10, I think they make him the selection as replacement for Rucker. It would almost be unfair to imagine Peppers and a developed Anderson on the line together, which is why Fox would make this pick. S is their most pressing need, and lately TE and ILB have become concerns, but Anderson is the BPA for a team that should be a playoff and possible super bowl contender.

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15. Steelers-Jarvis Moss DE Florida
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Its been reported that the Steelers will be moving to the 4-3 next season, so whoever they draft now has to be compatible for this and next year. Although Moss’s frame looks like strictly a rush linebacker, he has the necessary build and attitude to play DE in the 43 also. As seen in the National Championship, Moss is a great pass rusher and his long arms make it difficult for a QB to escape when he is in reach. Moss plays a lot faster than he times and should be an immediate impact on the Steeler defense that lost is swagger last season. If Levi Brown falls to this point, then I think they go in his direction, or even CB. If they decide to go DE but not Moss, then Spencer would be an outstanding selection. I don’t think they will go LB, but Tomlin met with FSU LB Lawrence Timmons and the team has known ties to Penn State LB Pos, so it will be interesting to see which direction they go.

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03-23-2007, 08:15 PM

16. Packers-Greg Olsen TE Miami(Fl)
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Most have Marshawn Lynch projecting at this spot but not me. Although I believe Lynch is a great prospect I do not believe he will go in the top 20. In any case, I don’t think first round RB is a bigger need for the Packers as DB or TE. I’m 50/50 on this selection, but I think since Farve is coming back they would go TE before Reggie Nelson. In my last Mock I said Ted Ginn, and although they could still make that selection, I think Olsen presents them the value they are looking for. Olsen to me is not a 1st round pick because of his struggles catching the ball last season, but his outstanding combine and workouts has now pushed him to the middle of round one. If they end up completing the deal for WR Randy Moss, then I believe they address the defense with Nelson. The packers use the ZBS, and they don’t have to have a first round RB to get success. In fact the Packers could get the same production out of a, 2nd, 3rd or 4th round RB as they would get if they selected Lynch. Case in point is Morency, who has multiple 100 yard performances has a backup.

17. Jags-Reggie Nelson S Florida
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Nelson is a top 10 talent, so if he fell this far then the Jags should be absolutely thrilled to get him. The Jags struggled in pass defense last season and much of it can be assisted to the team getting beat from the S spot. Darius may not be a Jag for long and who is Gerald Sensabugh? Nelson is a ballhawk who is not overally strong against the run, but is tremendous in pass defense and is always around the ball. High energy player that could potentially go top 10, so an excellent value. Some are saying Ginn to the Jags but I doubt highly that they are going to pick a WR in the 1st round again. Especially since DE and S as just as big of needs.

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03-23-2007, 08:15 PM

18. Bengals-Leon Hall CB Michigan
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The Bengals had success with Jospeh, their first round pick from last year, but the other side is a mess. Hall IMO is not the best CB on the board, but I think he is just what coach Marvin Lewis is looking for. Tough, smart, instinctive, and grades out good when it comes to character. The LB spot is wide open also after they cut Brian Simmons, but you have to wonder will they go after Timmons, Beason, or Pos this high? One thing I do know, the Benagls WILL go defense, whether it be the pick I am projecting or whether it be a different CB or LB.

19. Titans-Ted Ginn Jr. WR/KR Ohio State
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Vince Young blossomed into a playmaker for the Titans last year, and with even more weapons around him, he could develop into a top notch quarterback. Ginn lacks the size or hands, route running, and experience that you look for in a first round receiver, but one that he does not lack is speed and play making ability. His return abilities alone (just as heralded as Mr. Hester’s) will make him a first round pick, and if he can truly develop his receiving skills then he will be a steal for the Titans. I would not be surprised to see the Titans address needs at safety or defensive end but.....know what scratch that, with Ginn on the board, I would definitely be surprised.

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03-23-2007, 08:18 PM

20. Giants-Darelle Revis CB Pittsburgh
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The Giants are banking for one of the top CB’s to be available and Revis IMO is the best of any in this class as he silenced critics who said he lacked pure speed as he ran a 4.3 at his pro day. Revis has a great mix of speed and size and was a lockdown corner at Pitt. Very rarely did anyone throw in his direction. The Giants are in need of help in the secondary and this is almost a slam dunk pick unless somehow Levi Brown fell to this spot. LB is also a need, but there have been rumors that Denver LB Al Wilson could be on his way to New York. Marshawn Lynch made sense earlier in the season, but not now, because RB is not a first round need, especially with Revis and Houston on the board.

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21. Broncos-Charles Johnson DE Georgia
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The Broncos are going to look at two spots here, S and DE. Michael Griffen would make plenty of sense, especially with the depth at DE later in the draft, but Johnson is a player that steps in right away for Denver. He can be a great pass rusher, but he also is stout against the run and is in my opinion highly underrated. The Broncos just released DE Courtney Brown and Gerald Warren is the only player on the DL who is consistent enough to play at a high level. Johnson immediately changes that.

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03-23-2007, 08:19 PM

22. Cowboys-Joe Staley LT Central Michigan
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As Much as I think the Boys would love to get Nelson, they should be thrilled to get a potential Franchise LT. Dallas needs help in the secondary, and a CB like Chris Houston would make sense since there are rumors that Henry will be switched over to FS. But after the workouts of Staley then I think the organization will go OL. Staley is not well known, but had one of the best workouts/pro days for an offensive lineman in recent memory and was a dominant pass blocker at Central Michigan. He could have jumped from an early 2nd round pick to a top 15 pick, maybe even to the Dolphins or Panthers. If Ginn drops, then I could see him being the pick as well as the hometown kid Aaron Ross.

23. Chiefs-Ben Grubbs
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Coach Herm Edwards has made it known that he wants to improve the OL and will draft a good guard early. Well how about the best guard in the draft? They are uncertain about the future of Shields and even with him, OL is still a major concern. Green was on his back last season and they also need to keep Larry Johnson producing. There is a notion that guards should not go in the first round but I think that notion is starting to die down. The Bucs took Davin Joseph in the first last year and Grubbs is a better prospect. He is very aggressive and hey, you cant go wrong with those Auburn offensive lineman. Finally getting a go-to WR like Jarrett or Bowe is a very strong possibility, but Im listening to Herm on this one. They play to win the game and football games are won in the trenches.

24. Patriots-Paul Poslunszny LB Penn State
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The Patriots do not have a high priority of needs, and with two first round picks I could see them packaging both to move up and try to select Reggie Nelson or if he falls, maybe even Laron Landry. If not, then a nice constellation prize will be one of the most productive LB’s in college football history. Pos is versatile and can succeed at any LB position he is lined up in and his workouts showed that he is athletic enough to not just be seen as a system LB. He actually fits the Patriots system to the T, and this looks like one of those picks that you see and wonder how did the match made in heaven happen? Michael Griffen is the other possibility, but I think they would rather go after Pos with the first pick.

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03-23-2007, 08:19 PM

25. Jets-Justin Blaylock OG/RT Texas
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The Jets are in a good position to trade down if need be because there are not many picks that are too hard to pass on at this point. Chris Houston is a major possibility, but I think Mangini would rather complete his offensive line makeover that he started last season. Blaylock is extremely valued because he has the ability to play RG or RT, which are both 1st day needs for the Jets. Blaylock is not the best guard in the draft, or the best right tackle, but he may be the best of both worlds. His mauling type style will fit in well with what the Jets are trying to do, and should help create lanes for the newly acquired Thomas Jones and second year runner Leon Washington. Do not count out a rush end like Anthony Spencer or Victor Abiamiri.

26. Saints-Chris Houston CB Arkansas
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If he is on the board, I believe this pick would be made in a matter of a few minutes. The Saints secondary is easily the weakest link on their team, and many believe Houston is the best overall corner in the entire draft, perfect fit fight? Houston dazzled at the combine, proving to be both the strongest and fastest corner, and his hype is much deserved because of the way he dominated competition, which includes USC WR Dwayne Jarrett. He is not a very big corner, but he makes up for it by being physical. The Saints could look at the local product in Bowe, or even Ginn or Jarrett if they fell, but they would not take neither over a CB like Houston.

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03-23-2007, 08:20 PM

27. Eagles-Michael Griffen SS Texas
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The Eagles lost Lewis in the off-season and Griffen is a player that could be gone by pick 20 once the draft starts. He has good coverage skills and excellent speed for a strong safety. At this point in the draft the Eagles would have to consider Marshawn Lynch, who would be droping further then expected, and if Griffen and the top DE’s are gone, then they could make him the selection. WR is out of the question with the signing of Kevin Curtis, so look for either SLB, DE, or S to be the picks here.

28. Patriots-Aaron Ross CB Texas
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The Patriots defense gets richer as they nab the Thorp award winner (as well as the 05 Butkus award winner). Ross is not the fastest, the strongest, or the most heralded CB in the draft, but last year he certainly was one of the most productive. The Pats franchise Samuel, but that does not mean he will be back beyond 2007. Ross adds excellent depth and value as well as a kick return presence.

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03-23-2007, 08:21 PM

29. Ravens-Dwayne Jarrett WR Southern California
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The fall of JR would most likely stop here if this scenario played out. Jarrett is one of the most productive WR’s in USC and Pac 10 History, but discrimination from past USC WR’s and lackluster workouts means that DJ is likely to fall. He has great size but he is not as physical and you’d think by looking at him. Rumor has it he chose not to run at the combine because he could run no better than a high 4.7 in the 40. Since he also chose not to run at the first USC Pro day, then its hard to dismiss those rumors. The Ravens are at a point where they can go BPA, and adding the Jarrett with the smaller Mark Clayton could give them an outstanding core of receivers. If Jarrett overplays his shortcomings then they could also have the steal of the entire first round.

30. Chargers-Eric Weddle FS Utah
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The Chargers are basically set at every position on defense, except safety where they lack a playmaker. Weddle instantly changes that as he was one of the best pure playmakers in the entire country. He has good speed and could play CB if need be, but projects better at FS, where he should start from day one. WR is another possibility, but I think they would want more of a speedy type receiver and not a possession guy like Bowe or Jarrett.

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03-23-2007, 08:21 PM

31. Bears-Dwayne Bowe WR Louisiana State
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The Bears would love to go OL here and add some youth to the position, but I find it hard to believe that they would pass on the talents of Bowe, who is a solid first round prospect. The WR position needs some youth and Bowe could end up being the best out of every one drafted behind CJ. Grossman needs more weapons to work with, and Bradley, Berrian, and Muhammad arent exactly lighting anyone up in the passing game.

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32. Colts-Lawrence Timmons WLB Florida State
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The Colts won the super bowl despite having one of the worse run defenses in recent memory. They lose their Pro Bowl LB, so its only logical that they go out and get his replacement. Timmons is still learning the position but he is a natural playmaker and plays much bigger than his size. Not just because of his school ties, but he can compare favorably to Derrick Brooks, and should be a good fit in the Cover 2. With Haprer signing with the Titans then they could look for help in the secondary. I just don’t see them doing that in the first round, especially with Beason and Timmons left on the board.

Round 2

33. Oakland-Tony Ugoh OT Arkansas-extremely versatile and fantastic against the run. Should be the LT if Gallery does indeed go back to the right side.

34. Detroit -Dave Harris ILB Michigan-Could have the same type of impact DeMaco Ryans had for the Texans after being a second round pick

35. Tampa Bay -Ryan Kalil C USC-completes the offensive line overhaul the Bucs have made the past two off-seasons.

-black

03-23-2007, 08:22 PM

36. Cleveland-Marshawn Lynch RB Cal-biggest surprise thus far and obvious steal. Projects to go in the top 10, so if he somehow fell to 36 the Browns organization would be ecstatic.

**Kiper**s Take

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“The Browns pick up one of the best playmakers in the draft and adds some excellent value. I am surprised he slips this far, but this happens in every draft and its why Mock Drafts aren’t worth anything”

37. Chicago (from Washington thru NY Jets)-Tank Tyler-There is now question at DT with Tank’s position with the team being in question and injury concerns with Harris. So add another Tank who is maybe the strongest DL in the draft.

38. Arizona -Jon Beason WLB Miami(Fl)-Immediate starter that brings speed and a whole lot of potential

39. Atlanta (from Houston)-Brandon Merriweather S Miami(Fl)-Ballhawker and first round talent that should be the answer to the Falcons secondary.

40. Miami-Steve Smith WR USC- Underrated prospect with great hands, speed, route running, and production. This is how Marvin Harrisons are made.

41. Minnesota -Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame -Gives them another much needed pass rushing presence

42. San Francisco-Sidney Rice WR South Carolina-Potential steal that will help out Smith in the passing game

43. Buffalo-Antonio Pittman RB Ohio State-another one of those Ohio State players that the Bills seem to like.

44. Atlanta-Arron Sears OL Tennessee-The Falcons need a good pulling OT, and Sears has the potential to play that, as well as any other position on the line

45. Carolina-Buster Davis ILB Florida State- Outstanding college producer that lacks the measurables but plays with a ton of heart.

46. Pittsburgh-Eric Wright CB UNLV -Incredible talent that could be a big time steal and will give the Steelers, along with McFadden, a talented pair of corners

47. Green Bay-Aaron Rouse SS Virginia Tech -Big hitter and tremendous upside for a team in need of help in the secondary

48. Jacksonville-Anthony Spencer DE Purdue-First round talent that could go 25 to the Jets. Would be a major steal almost 25 picks later.

49. Cincinnati-Rufus Alexander WLB Oklahoma-Had an off-offseason but was the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year. The Bengals could use a talented LB

50. Tennessee-Tim Crowder DE Texas-another one of those second round prospects that you scratch your head at. Good workouts, great production yet still falls. Titans have found some success with players from Texas

51. New York Giants-Lorenzo Booker RB Florida State -Is the all-purpose back that the Giants could use to play with Jacobs. Can be a major steal along the lines of Brian Westbrook.

52. St. Louis-Stewert Bradley SLB Nebraska-Rams need a SLB and Bradley is one who can start immediately.

53. Dallas-Josh Wilson CB Maryland-extremely fast CB that should be a great nickle back until he develops into a starter

54. Kansas City-Jason Hill WR Washington State-Fast and productive. The Chiefs have been looking for a go to receiver for a few years now

55. Seattle-Justin Harrell DT Tennessee-Missed the 2006 season but is a first round talent

56. Denver-Josh Gattis S Wake Forest-underrated prospect that is a ballhawk

57. Philadelphia-Brian Leonard FB/RB/H-Back Rutgers-gives the Eagles a versatile and valued playmaker that could play many positions and will be used in many different ways.

58. New Orleans-Craig Davis WR LSU- He and Colston should make a fantastic duo.

59. New York Jets-Marcus McCauley CB Fresno State-tremendous upside if he can gain his confidence back

60. Miami (from New England-Zack Miller TE Arizona State-The Phins as of now do not have a starting caliber TE

61. Baltimore-John Wade CB Ten-fast rising prospect that should benefit from playing nickle for a year or so

62. San Diego-Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio State-gives the Chargers a fast receiver and return threat

63. New York Jets (from Chicago)-Quentin Moses DE Georgia-Has the talent to become a very good pass rusher

64. Tampa Bay (from Indianapolis)-Lamar Woodley DE Michigan-may be a bit undersized but is extremely productive

**round two wrap up Kipers Take**

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“The second round had some major steals like Lynch to the Browns and Spencer to the Jags. But A Move I especially like is the Eagles selection of Brian Leonard. The Falcons also addressed some major needs with their picks and got excellent value.”

Third Round

65. Oakland-Ben Patrick TE Delaware

66. Detroit-Marshal Yanda OL Iowa

67. Cleveland -Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech

68. Tampa Bay-Marcus Thomas DT Florida

69. Arizona -Ray McDonald DE Florida

70. Denver (from Washington)-Brandon Mebane DT California

71. Miami-Doug Datish C Ohio State

72. Minnesota -Johnnie Lee Higgans WR UTEP

73. Houston-John Wendling S Wyoming

74. Buffalo-Quinn Pitcock DT Ohio State

75. Atlanta-Akim-Alama Francis DE Hawaii

76. San Francisco-Zac Deossie ILB Brown

77. Pittsburgh-H.B. Blades ILB Pitt

78. Green Bay-Kenny Irons RB Auburn

79. Jacksonville-Brandon Siler ILB Florida

80. Cincinnati (No pick)

81. Tennessee-Michael Johnson S Arizona

82. New York Giants-Prescott Burgess SLB Michigan

83. St. Louis-Daymeion Hughes CB Cal

84. Carolina-Drew Stanton QB Michigan State

85. Kansas City-Doug Free OT Northern Illinois

86. Seattle-Scott Chandler TE Iowa

87. Denver-Aundra Allison WR ECU

88. Dallas-Josh Beekman OG Boston College

89. New Orleans-Kareem Brown DT Miami(Fl)

90. New York Jets-Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota

91. Philadelphia-Tim Shaw LB Penn State

92. New England-Tony Hunt RB Penn State

93. Buffalo (from Baltimore)-Fred Bennet CB South Carolina

94. San Diego-Brian Robinson DE/OLB Texas

95. Chicago-Earl Everett WLB Florida

96. Indianapolis-David Irons CB Auburn

-black

03-23-2007, 08:22 PM

Fourth Round

97. Oakland-Jay Moore DE Nebraska

98. Detroit-Tanard Jackson CB Syracuse

99. Tampa Bay-Baratka Atkins DE Miami(Fl)

100. Cleveland-Paul Soliai DT Utah

101. San Francisco (from Washington)-Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame

102. Arizona-Mansfield Wrotto OG Georgia Tech

103. Minnesota-Andy Alleman OG Akron

104. Houston -Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska

105. Miami-Troy Smith QB Ohio State

106. Atlanta -Dallas Baker WR Florida

107. San Francisco-DeAndre Jackson CB Iowa State

108. Buffalo-Justin Durant OLB Hampton

109. Green Bay-Travorous Bain CB Hampton

110. Jacksonville-John Beck QB BYU

111. Cincinnati-Ryan McBean DT Oklahoma State

112. Tennessee-Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech

113. New York Giants-James Marten OT Boston College

114. St. Louis-Dan Bauzin DE Western Michigan

115. Carolina -Brandon Frye OT Virginia Tech

116. Pittsburgh -Michael Bush RB Louisville

117. Seattle -Tim Duckworth OG Auburn

118. Atlanta (from Denver)-Nate Harris ILB Louisville

119. Dallas -Rhema McNight WR Notre Dame

120. New Orleans (from Kansas City)-Rory Johnson OLB Ole Miss

121. San Francisco (from NY Jets)-Antonio Johnson DT Mississippi State

122. New Orleans (from Philadelphia)-Tarell Brown CB Texas

123. New Orleans -Trent Edwards QB Stanford

124. New England -Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma State

125. Tennessee (from Baltimore)-Darius Walker RB Notre Dame

126. San Diego-Mike Jones OG Iowa

127. Chicago-Chris Denman OT Fresno State

**Headlines**

The Dolphins nag Heisman QB Troy Smith
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Michael Bush is a Steeler

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-black

03-23-2007, 08:23 PM

thanks for putting up with me :)

The Unseen

03-23-2007, 08:31 PM

I love love love the draft for the Jaguars, but a quibble: the Jaguars didn't "struggle" in pass defense. They were 10th in the league, and rated 3rd by Football Outsiders.

-black

03-23-2007, 08:34 PM

I love love love the draft for the Jaguars, but a quibble: the Jaguars didn't "struggle" in pass defense. They were 10th in the league, and rated 3rd by Football Outsiders.

thanks, and it was a big of a typo. Where as I said pass defense I was really thinking pass rush. Exactly what is football outsiders tho lol?

49erfaithful

03-23-2007, 08:36 PM

awsome SF mock

draftguru151

03-23-2007, 08:40 PM

Apparently the Dolphins don't like Brown, and I don't blame them. Don't like Datish in the 3rd either, we don't need a OC. Like the set up, not a big fan of the draft on a whole though. Lynch won't drop that far. Too many teams need a RB.

Caddy

03-23-2007, 08:45 PM

To tell you the truth, I don't really like your buccaneers draft.

The only pick that I actually like is the Kalil pick.

-black

03-23-2007, 08:49 PM

To tell you the truth, I don't really like your buccaneers draft.

The only pick that I actually like is the Kalil pick.

do explain fellow Bucs fan

Need of S-met with best in the draft...future Pro Bowler

Need of C-met with best in the draft...potential future pro bowler

Need of DE-met with two, since Spries and Rice may not be back next season

Need of UT-met with many the most talented DT in the draft...character risk, but talented

Lynch won't drop that far

just like Corey Dillion would not drop that far?

the Bills and Packers to me seem to be the only teams in dire need of attention at RB. If Green Bay passes on him then who exactly(baring a trade) would take him?

princefielder28

03-23-2007, 09:07 PM

Olsen looks good in Green & Gold

RaiderNation

03-23-2007, 09:24 PM

good job with the draft with all the pics and stuff. good raider picks bt i think kalil would be our guy in the 2nd

ninerfan

03-23-2007, 09:27 PM

Clearly work or school suffered this week - well done

-black

03-23-2007, 09:29 PM

Clearly work or school suffered this week - well done

try both:eek:

lol i been working on this the past week though....mostly at work......i feel like Kiper. I got indirectly paid to make a mock draft :)

ninerfan

03-23-2007, 09:30 PM

try both:eek:

lol i been working on this the past week though....mostly at work......i feel like Kiper. I got indirectly paid to make a mock draft :)

Even better I just hope you dont look like him

Caddy

03-23-2007, 09:32 PM

do explain fellow Bucs fan

Need of S-met with best in the draft...future Pro Bowler

Need of C-met with best in the draft...potential future pro bowler

Need of DE-met with two, since Spries and Rice may not be back next season

Need of UT-met with many the most talented DT in the draft...character risk, but talented

just like Corey Dillion would not drop that far?

the Bills and Packers to me seem to be the only teams in dire need of attention at RB. If Green Bay passes on him then who exactly(baring a trade) would take him?

Just a differing of opinions I guess.

We are obviously not going to agree on which players we should pick where so there is little point arguing with you.

But Landry is a huge reach. Many people will tell you that in order for a safety to go that high, he has to be a stellar prospect. Sean Taylor didn't even go that high coming out of college.

We agree on the Kalil pick.

Lamar Woodley is an interesting pick but I am skeptical about how well he will perform in a cover 2 defense. I think he may find more luck as a LB in a 3-4.

Baraka Atkins is not a pure pass rusher so I can only assume you want him to take over for Spires. Whilst I am not completely in agreement with this pick, I just don't like Atkins as a prospect.

And as far as Thomas goes, I don't like his off field problems. People claim that they are being overreacted about, but the buccaneers organisation would do better without him. We want guys with their heads in the game so to speak. Thomas may not be one of those guys.

mgoblue

03-23-2007, 09:35 PM

1.2 Calvin Johnson- Great pick
2.2 David Harris- Good Pick
3.2 Marshall Yanda- Bad pick(lions wont take a guard in the draft after signing Muitalo and Piller)
4.2 Tanard Jackson- Good Pick

overall- A-

-black

03-23-2007, 09:40 PM

Just a differing of opinions I guess.

We are obviously not going to agree on which players we should pick where so there is little point arguing with you.

But Landry is a huge reach. Many people will tell you that in order for a safety to go that high, he has to be a stellar prospect. Sean Taylor didn't even go that high coming out of college.

We agree on the Kalil pick.

Lamar Woodley is an interesting pick but I am skeptical about how well he will perform in a cover 2 defense. I think he may find more luck as a LB in a 3-4.

Baraka Atkins is not a pure pass rusher so I can only assume you want him to take over for Spires. Whilst I am not completely in agreement with this pick, I just don't like Atkins as a prospect.

And as far as Thomas goes, I don't like his off field problems. People claim that they are being overreacted about, but the buccaneers organisation would do better without him. We want guys with their heads in the game so to speak. Thomas may not be one of those guys.

I see where you are coming from, I just do not agree. Its basically a 3 spot difference for Landry. He is projected to go 7th, so although i'd love to swap picks with Arizona, id still be happy with a Pro Bowl type player at 4. I believe in getting the players you want. Honestly, i'd be happy with Okoye, Landry, or Adams.....but I just think getting the best defensive back in the draft(and top 5 overall player) is worth it...despite the 3 pick reach

Forenci

03-23-2007, 09:42 PM

I must say, you did an extremely great job on this. Not only the presentation, but the mock draft in general too. I must say, you really have some stones for having the Lions taking Calvin Johnson. I know it's strange, but I happen to agree with you on the fact they might do that.

I must say, I adore the Giants first round pick and Revis looks beautiful in a Giants jersey.

The only thing I'm not a huge fan of is the Giants taking Prescott Burgess and Lorenzo Booker.

Burgess because he ran slower than a handful of offensive linemen (need to see his pro day 40), and because it's too high for him.

Booker because while it could be argued that it's not too high for him to go in the second, I can see us grabbing a half back in the second round. More likely we'd pick up an outside linebacker like Everett or Bradley in the second/third.

Otherwise, I love the Revis and Marten pick. I must say though, it was a good overall mock. A+ presentation also.

haccess

03-23-2007, 10:03 PM

Wow, a lot of work went into this one. Nice explanations and I dig the custom jerseys and player photos. Good Panthers draft. Well done, -black. 5 stars.

Bengals1690

03-23-2007, 10:19 PM

i would be ecstatic if the bengals draft went like that

T-RICH49

03-23-2007, 10:22 PM

I love KC's draft

Xiomera

03-23-2007, 10:26 PM

Detroit's 2nd and 3rd rounders could use some work. Detroit needs a DE and DB more than a O-Lineman, and Harris is not a great fit for our defense, though we do need a MLB.

-black

03-23-2007, 10:30 PM

Detroit's 2nd and 3rd rounders could use some work. Detroit needs a DE and DB more than a O-Lineman, and Harris is not a great fit for our defense, though we do need a MLB.

well from my perspective G is a huge need since you could not run the ball(even though you threw it like 65% of the time) and the G position looks really weak. You signed D.White and still have Edwards. Exactly why would Harris not be a good fit for the Cover 2? you dont think he has the hips or is good enough in coverage?

johbur

03-23-2007, 10:31 PM

Great work on the pictures and the mock overall.

Most picks seemed reasonable and your analysis was valid considering it is for all teams.

Packers mock is just fine with me. Olsen and Irons, toss in some DB help. Sweet.

One pick that caught my eye in a negative way was AZ taking a WR in R2. He might be "immediate starting material" on another team, but he's not starting past Fitz and 'Quan, plus CJ is the #3. Spending a #2 on a fourth receiver doesn't seem to be a good maneuver considering how many other needs the Cards have.

Crickett

03-23-2007, 10:32 PM

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“BOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

The Jets are in a good position to trade down if need be because there are not many picks that are too hard to pass on at this point. Chris Houston is a major possibility, but I think Mangini would rather complete his offensive line makeover that he started last season. Blaylock is extremely valued because he has the ability to play RG or RT, which are both 1st day needs for the Jets. Blaylock is not the best guard in the draft, or the best right tackle, but he may be the best of both worlds. His mauling type style will fit in well with what the Jets are trying to do, and should help create lanes for the newly acquired Thomas Jones and second year runner Leon Washington. Do not count out a rush end like Anthony Spencer or Victor Abiamiri.

Dammit, I should be in that picture!!!! I'm pretty sure I was in the background as I recognize several people in that picture, especially the one on the right who was leading the chants (to the right of the guy wearing #87). :mad:

Anyway, the Jets fans cheered D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold and I have no reason to think Blalock would not be cheered too. The Jets need some more help on the offensive line, especially in regards to run blocking.

-black

03-23-2007, 10:33 PM

The Dynasty

03-23-2007, 10:35 PM

Great Set-up one of the best ive seen.

Good Vikings Mock.

johbur

03-23-2007, 10:36 PM

I have the Cards taking Beason in round 2.....where do you see a WR? lol

I don't know what the heck I was looking at. Beason makes the Cards mock pretty special.

Xiomera

03-23-2007, 10:36 PM

well from my perspective G is a huge need since you could not run the ball(even though you threw it like 65% of the time) and the G position looks really weak. You signed D.White and still have Edwards. Exactly why would Harris not be a good fit for the Cover 2? you dont think he has the hips or is good enough in coverage?

Lions signed Edwin Mulitalo today. We don't need a guard on day one. Or any o-lineman for that matter on the first day.

Kalimba Edwards has never been and will never be a starter in the NFL. He is a situational pass rusher only. We need a DE.

And as for Harris, he is not great in coverage and probably not worth the 34th pick in the draft.

We need a DB on day one.

-black

03-23-2007, 10:39 PM

kalbears13

03-23-2007, 11:40 PM

I have three words for you.

I Love You.

Greatest Browns mock ever created. If this happened I would go crazy. A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Crickett

03-24-2007, 12:05 AM

Lions signed Edwin Mulitalo today. We don't need a guard on day one. Or any o-lineman for that matter on the first day.

Edwin Mulitalo is 33. He is at best a short term solution.

Acreboy

03-24-2007, 12:10 AM

Won't complain if the Saints do that.

thebow305

03-24-2007, 12:43 AM

I absolutely love the whole idea and all the effort you put into this thing... nice job! The first two rounds are pretty decent for the phins, but after that it is not great. Some unlikely picks in round one, and although Lynch could fall out of the first round with the injury rumors, I could see it, but it is very unlikely he makes it past both the Bills and Packers. Very entertaining and orgininal though!

thebow305

03-24-2007, 12:47 AM

I have three words for you.

I Love You.

Greatest Browns mock ever created. If this happened I would go crazy. A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Dude, your Browns perfect draft is completely unreasonable and impossible. I know someone who will be disappointed on draft day. You have very high expectations for the Browns draft huh, even the Patriots don't get that lucky, DAMN! (Even though they did get Chad Jackson in the second round..... I wouldn've taken him at 16! DAMN IT! Those lucky bastards! I nearly slit my throat!)

Carriker won't make it out of round 1.

Ramirez won't make it out of round 4.

Pittman wont make it out of round 3, maybe even 2.

Good luck with it though!

titansfan

03-24-2007, 02:33 AM

1st off, I haven't even looked at it but I applaud you with your work, you did an amazing job and I can't imagine how long it took you to do that so your mock is already great to me without even looking at it, excellent- not only did you give the picks, you gave images, explainations, and four complete rounds...

5 star thread here, maybe best thread of the year- great job...

Bills2083

03-24-2007, 07:57 AM

Amazing Bills draft. Great explanation on the Willis pick, and you filled most of our needs on the 1st day. The only thing that could make this better would be Dallas Baker in the 6th (If he's still there), Cory Anderson in the 7th, and Chinedum Nduwuke in the 7th.

Schenkel23

03-24-2007, 09:17 AM

Laron Landry at #4 overall? I agree that he's the best safety in this draft and i think he'll be an all-pro some day, but i doubt his stock is that high right now.

TacticaLion

03-24-2007, 10:03 AM

Lions signed Edwin Mulitalo today. We don't need a guard on day one. Or any o-lineman for that matter on the first day.

Kalimba Edwards has never been and will never be a starter in the NFL. He is a situational pass rusher only. We need a DE.

And as for Harris, he is not great in coverage and probably not worth the 34th pick in the draft.

We need a DB on day one.^^ The truth about the Lions.

The Lions' management wasn't concerned with the OLine BEFORE the signing of Mulitalo/Piller... the line experienced a ton of injuries in 2006, and they feel that, if healthy, the line will have a solid year.

Instead of Harris in round 2, I'd prefer Beason, Meriweather or Abiamiri... and, in round 3, Hughes would be a good pick. A draft like this would work for Lions fans:

Rd1: CJesus
Rd2: Meriweather
Rd3: Hughes
Rd4: Bazuin

I'd take that... give us Anthony Waters with one of our 5th round picks and I'm set.

Not to sound overly critical, though... the mock is beautiful and well done. Very good job!

Homicide

03-24-2007, 10:08 AM

you put two "r"s on Levi Brown's jersey.

Good mock, if Timmons isnt there for us, I belive we would have taken Marshawn Lynch. There has been talk about possibly drafting a RB round 1 for us, ut definaetly not if Timmons falls to us. I like the David Irons pick to us also

eaglesalltheway

03-24-2007, 10:20 AM

Wow, this looks like a lot of work, and it seems like a pretty solid draft. I think someone would trade up if Lynch fell, but I understand not including trades, all they do is make these things even more difficult. Great Eagles picks in the first and second, I could really see those as a possibility.The third round pick is the only one I have a problem with. I don't think Shaw made himself a first day LB, but I do like him nonetheless. We may look into Anthony Waters, MLB with our third round pick, along with CB, DE, DT, or TE. It seems like a realsitic mcok draft to me for the most part, and it is obvious you put a lot of work into it. I like your Kiper comments as well, they seemed like stuff he would actually say, and some of it was funny to me, but I don't know why. You are getting rep points for your hard work.

-black

03-24-2007, 10:23 AM

you put two "r"s on Levi Brown's jersey.
Good mock, if Timmons isnt there for us, I belive we would have taken Marshawn Lynch. There has been talk about possibly drafting a RB round 1 for us, ut definaetly not if Timmons falls to us. I like the David Irons pick to us also

yeah the site would not allow me to put "Brown" in the Phins uni

Homicide

03-24-2007, 10:25 AM

oh......would it let u put L.Brown?

liquidswords

03-24-2007, 10:26 AM

There's no way GB passes on Lynch. Olsen is a great player, but they are more in need of a RB than a TE. They can take Zach Miller or Ben Patrick in later rounds.

-black

03-24-2007, 10:32 AM

-black

03-24-2007, 10:34 AM

There's no way GB passes on Lynch. Olsen is a great player, but they are more in need of a RB than a TE. They can take Zach Miller or Ben Patrick in later rounds.

or they could take Irons or Pittman in later rounds and get the same results....RB depth is deeper than TE dpeth and in GB's system they do not need a 1st round RB to get big time results

IMO of course

neko4

03-24-2007, 10:40 AM

lovin the GB draft, dont agree w/ Johnson and Quinn picks though, good draft

-black

03-24-2007, 10:48 AM

oh......would it let u put L.Brown?

nah they dont allow dots....so i just went ahead and spelled it wrong and hoped no1 would notice lol

Go_Eagles77

03-24-2007, 10:54 AM

Good eagles draft but I don't see Griffen getting #26 from Lito Sheppard lol.

elway777

03-24-2007, 01:10 PM

Finally something new! Thanks for the whole write up Black, I enjoyed reading through it.

kalbears13

03-24-2007, 02:52 PM

Dude, your Browns perfect draft is completely unreasonable and impossible. I know someone who will be disappointed on draft day. You have very high expectations for the Browns draft huh, even the Patriots don't get that lucky, DAMN! (Even though they did get Chad Jackson in the second round..... I wouldn've taken him at 16! DAMN IT! Those lucky bastards! I nearly slit my throat!)

Carriker won't make it out of round 1.

Ramirez won't make it out of round 4.

Pittman wont make it out of round 3, maybe even 2.

Good luck with it though!

I know it's really unlikely that will happen. BTW I made that perfect draft back in January when it was possible for that to happen. After Carriker at the Senior Bowl and Ramirez in the combine it's very unlikely now. I saw some mocks with pittman dropping down to the 4th. I should probably delete it but I want to see how the players turn out.

hugegmenfan

03-24-2007, 03:30 PM

mcdlaxbonz13

03-24-2007, 06:45 PM

amazing browns mock, pure brilliance

-black

03-24-2007, 06:55 PM

eh mediocre giants draft
1st round- great
2nd round- terrible..booker is not a 2nd round pick. HB is a 3rd-4th round pick for us with the addition of droughns- give us darius walker in the 4th
give us stewart bradley 2nd round
doug free 3rd round

OMG, i feel horrible lol, i totally FORGOT about Droughns when I was making the picks....I started this 2 weeks ago, but I dont know how i forgot. But on the contrary, I do think Booker will go late 2nd or very early 3rd

Green Bay Scat

03-24-2007, 08:13 PM

im sorry but as a packer fan im just not feelin it, although i like olsen, he is more of a last resort and lynch is there.

-black

03-24-2007, 09:04 PM

so you would not like having Irons in the 3rd round?

757Dawg

03-24-2007, 09:21 PM

Quinn, Lynch, and Ramirez......

Where do I sign up?

jackalope

03-25-2007, 12:19 AM

pretty good Packer's mock, but i'd like Lynch in the first and i don't see how he drops that far.

Caddy

03-25-2007, 12:40 AM

Yeh Lynch won't drop that far, and if he does, we will see if Ghettosermon is true to his word.

If Lynch get's pass the Ravens I will retire from NFLDC.

a-dub83

03-25-2007, 01:01 AM

Freddie Keiaho is likely to step in at WLB for us, so you can rule out LB with the first pick, we need a DT, maybe Justin Harrell

-black

03-25-2007, 01:05 AM

I dont think Lynch drops to the 2nd...but if trades did not exist(like in my mock) then IMO he would based on team needs and his value

Caddy

03-25-2007, 01:36 AM

I dont think Lynch drops to the 2nd...but if trades did not exist(like in my mock) then IMO he would based on team needs and his value

His value is the thing that would lead to him being drafted, not sliding even further

-black

03-25-2007, 01:40 AM

His value is the thing that would lead to him being drafted, not sliding even further

If he gets pass Green Bay....why dont you tell me who takes him

Titans? Eagles? Broncos? Jets?no team after that really makes any sense....especially for a RB who ran a 4.5 at the combine and is not an elite cant miss back....he is a 1st round talent, but not better than Stephen Jackson when he came out...yet Stephen went late 1st...so I dont think at all that it is far fetched (baring trades) for him to last to the 30's...so many are so use to seeing him to the Bills or Packers that they have never stoped to think where he would go if Green Bay passed on him. Deuce McCalister was rated as a top 10 pick...Corey Dillon was suppose to be a top 20 pick....someone in every draft slides, and I think if the Pack passes on him then it could be Lynch this year

who do you think would take him?

Caddy

03-25-2007, 01:43 AM

The thing is, there is little to no chance that he actually gets past Green Bay.

-black

03-25-2007, 01:47 AM

The thing is, there is little to no chance that he actually gets past Green Bay.

and why is that? the Packers can get the same results from a 2nd or 3rd round RB....I personally think the Packers would take either Olsen or Nelson over Lymch. S is actually their biggest need. Morrency has proven to be a decent back(had over 100 yards in a few games)....even guys like Davenport and the other no name guy were 100 yard rushers for Green Bay. They do not "need" Lynch and could just get a productive back like Irons or Pittman in later rounds...especially if they can get a Pro Bowl caliber S like Nelson or a pass catcher like Olsen or Ginn...

Mocks have lead many to believe Lynch to Green bay is a slam dunk....it is not

Caddy

03-25-2007, 03:22 AM

and why is that? the Packers can get the same results from a 2nd or 3rd round RB....I personally think the Packers would take either Olsen or Nelson over Lymch. S is actually their biggest need. Morrency has proven to be a decent back(had over 100 yards in a few games)....even guys like Davenport and the other no name guy were 100 yard rushers for Green Bay. They do not "need" Lynch and could just get a productive back like Irons or Pittman in later rounds...especially if they can get a Pro Bowl caliber S like Nelson or a pass catcher like Olsen or Ginn...

Mocks have lead many to believe Lynch to Green bay is a slam dunk....it is not

There is a reason Lynch is rated as a 1st round prospect. It is because he is better than anyone they could get in the 2nd or 3rd.

Obviously you have convinced yourself he is not going there and nothing I could say will make you change your mind.

That is fine, but unless your job title includes the words "General Manager of the Green Bay Packers" I think they will take Lynch, if he is not already taken.

D-Unit

03-25-2007, 03:24 AM

Wow. Just wow. *Heavy Applause!*

Hey -black,
I want to commend you on a really great mock. Reminds me of myself back in the day when I cared to put that much effort into it. Ignore the guys talking about how their teams will do this and that. Your mock is perfect. There are a lot of unforseen things that go on on draft day that experts can't predict, so don't let the guys here sway your opinion. I can tell that you do your own homework and aren't influenced by the general public. I swear after this mock, you are like one of my favorite posters. Great picks, great reasoning and great effort!

I'm not really lovin' the Dallas picks, but I can see where you're coming from. They make sense. I get the same feeling from reading your mock as I do on draft day. Some happiness and some wonderment. :D

Good job!

Jabba The Hut

03-25-2007, 03:32 AM

Decent Mock Draft

-black

03-26-2007, 12:03 PM

thanks for all the comments guys........wait a min, who dropped my ranking ????? lol

Acreboy

03-26-2007, 12:14 PM

tarell brown just got arrested again so I don't think the Saints draft him...

-black

03-26-2007, 12:37 PM

^^ I agree....i didnt know about it till after I made this

indyfan1985

03-26-2007, 01:00 PM

Nice work on this draft. I LOVE the 1st round pick for the Colts. Im not high on the 3rd rounder though. We dont really need to draft DB this year since we have so many young talented players there. I wouldnt mind possibly Michael Bush in the late 3rd or 4th round for the Colts if he were there. Also DT would still need to be addressed as well as WR.

indyfan1985

03-26-2007, 01:03 PM

Freddie Keiaho is likely to step in at WLB for us, so you can rule out LB with the first pick, we need a DT, maybe Justin Harrell

Freddy K. IS NOT suited to play WLB!!! He is best suited in our system at MLB which he will soon play once Brackett is gone. You know how Bill Polian likes to go BPA in the draft right? Well Lawrence Timmons is just that. He is an extremely talented athlete who can cover well and deliver some vicious tackles. Justin Harrell is not a 1st rounder. Timmons is a MUCH better value pick. Timmons could be our Derrick Brooks in our system since Cato June was hardly that since he couldnt tackle.

-black

03-28-2007, 10:41 AM

Freddy K. IS NOT suited to play WLB!!! He is best suited in our system at MLB which he will soon play once Brackett is gone. You know how Bill Polian likes to go BPA in the draft right? Well Lawrence Timmons is just that. He is an extremely talented athlete who can cover well and deliver some vicious tackles. Justin Harrell is not a 1st rounder. Timmons is a MUCH better value pick. Timmons could be our Derrick Brooks in our system since Cato June was hardly that since he couldnt tackle.

I agree....

Acreboy

03-28-2007, 11:05 AM

^^ I agree....i didnt know about it till after I made this
Your a smart guy, I figured as much, lol.

Justin Harrell is not a 1st rounder. Well Kiper thinks that if Harrell would have stayed healthy he's a top 10 pick. I agree with him. The talent is there. Just need to keep him on the field.

Philly Boy Roy

03-28-2007, 12:32 PM

I love the Eagles' draft! Leonard AND Griffin, and Shaw... Very nice. I don't see Leonard dropping that far, i'd love it though!

MrQL

03-28-2007, 03:03 PM

Absolutely no way the Packers pass on Lynch. You WAY wrong is you think the Packers biggest need is safety and not RB. Morencey is an OKAY back, nothing more. Who's the #2 back? Arliss Beach and Noah Herron? Excuse me, I have to go throw up now. If Lynch isn't there, look for TT to trade down with SD for Michael Turner and the 30th pick where Olsen would probably be available anyways. Just a horrible pick at 16.

-black

04-19-2007, 09:42 AM

uppin for discussion

Ronniec513

04-19-2007, 12:52 PM

Props again for a cool mock. For the Bengals:

1st Round-Leon Hall: If he's there he's in stripes no question. I think they view him as a top 10 talent and would be ecstatic to have him.
2nd Round-Rufus Alexander: Good idea but I'm not thrilled with the pick. Could just be a smokescreen, but Justin Durant's name has popped up a few times in bengaldom. Maybe switch him in there and I love this draft.
4th Round-Ryan McBean: Solid. Personally I like Kareem Brown out of Miami here but this works as well.

Great job.

Mr. Myogi

04-19-2007, 01:30 PM

Best Mock I've Ever Seen.... Great Falcon picks too.

M.O.T.H.

04-19-2007, 01:35 PM

-black

04-19-2007, 03:55 PM

Dont know if anyone said it yet but, if by some miracle Lynch fell that far... there is no way the cowboys would pass on him. The value would be too good to pass up and he was believe to have had a very nice workout/inteview with the Boys.

so do you feel they would shop Julius Jones on draft day if that were to happen? how much do you think Jones would be valued?

M.O.T.H.

04-19-2007, 04:14 PM

so do you feel they would shop Julius Jones on draft day if that were to happen? how much do you think Jones would be valued?

There have been rumors, here and there but, nothing major as of yet.

This is tough... if this scenario were to really happen (Lynch falling), I could see the boys drafting him and giving the Packers a call for Jones. Last season, the Packers reportedly had attempted to trade for Julius so, i'm sure their may still be interest there. Once again it is a difficult scenario... there is not a doubt in my mind that the boys would take him... given the opportunity... but, things would get rather "involved" afteward.

Draft King

04-19-2007, 04:23 PM

Nice work, must have taken awhile, love the Falcons draft and could tell there was a ton of effort put into this.

Dcboys94

04-19-2007, 05:14 PM

though i love your whole draft the look most of the picks, the cowboys go dwayne jarrett...where do you generate those jersey pics?

-black

04-19-2007, 06:06 PM

There have been rumors, here and there but, nothing major as of yet.

This is tough... if this scenario were to really happen (Lynch falling), I could see the boys drafting him and giving the Packers a call for Jones. Last season, the Packers reportedly had attempted to trade for Julius so, i'm sure their may still be interest there. Once again it is a difficult scenario... there is not a doubt in my mind that the boys would take him... given the opportunity... but, things would get rather "involved" afteward.

what do you think Jones would be worth? just hypathetically. I think Green Bay would only be willing to accquire him for a 3rd round pick or maybe a 4th and a guy like Gbaja-Biamilla

where do you generate those jersey pics?

nfl.com

go to nflshop

custamizable jersey's

tadah....

M.O.T.H.

04-19-2007, 06:13 PM

3rd or 4th sounds about right. As for KGB...nah. Considering, Mcgahee was traded for two 3rds and a 7th... A 3rd for Julius... doesnt seem too farfetched at all.

RoyHall#1

04-19-2007, 06:24 PM

I love the Browns draft after the 1st round, but there could be worse things than getting Brady Quinn. Like getting Jamarcus Russel.

trademaster

04-19-2007, 06:24 PM

Hate the Cowboys draft, now way we draft 2 O-line man in the 1st day, give us WR,CB,DE/OLB,NT, any of these combinations.

G-Men88

04-19-2007, 06:43 PM

Giants don't need a RB. Jason Hill instead

LitoSheppard

04-19-2007, 06:48 PM

First and second Eagles rounds, GREAT!
Third..ehhhh
Kind of a shaky mock overall but a few good picks for the Eagles

Primetime21

04-19-2007, 07:31 PM

No way Atlanta picks Nate Harris. Rich Mckay believes in something called the Falcon Filter and no way with the NFL strict policy on player conduct they draft him.(Dont think Petrino has that much say)

All other picks are all very thought out and love draft besides that.

ripdw27

04-19-2007, 08:05 PM

hmm i really thikn denver would take marshawn lynch there in the first but good pick any way i agree that johnson is underated but well see in a few years lol anyway great job on the mock i really like the jets picture lol

-black

04-20-2007, 11:51 AM

Giants don't need a RB. Jason Hill instead

do you think the G-Men dont need a RB period, or dont need one on day one?

JCutlery

04-20-2007, 01:17 PM

I'm not a fan of the Broncos pick with both Griffin and Staley still on the board. Charles Johnson is a good prospect, don't get me wrong, he's just not worth the #21 pick, plain and simple.

Phrost

04-20-2007, 01:33 PM

Nice mock bud, apparently a lot of time and effort.

Gridiron

04-20-2007, 02:01 PM

Good Jets draft, but the fans wouldn't boo Blalock at all.

-black

04-20-2007, 02:05 PM

I'm not a fan of the Broncos pick with both Griffin and Staley still on the board. Charles Johnson is a good prospect, don't get me wrong, he's just not worth the #21 pick, plain and simple.

this is where I strongly disagree. I think this site slightly underates him, and I believe he could go as high as 15. Dominant at times and not only can rush the pasher, he run stops also. I could def see Griffen though, but I think C. Johnson is underated on this site and will go much higher than some expect

NotoRussell

04-20-2007, 04:58 PM

just like Corey Dillion would not drop that far?

the Bills and Packers to me seem to be the only teams in dire need of attention at RB. If Green Bay passes on him then who exactly(baring a trade) would take him?

how about Giants, i like Jacobs, but he is not the answer or Titans,White is too heavy and needs competition

iloxygenil

04-20-2007, 05:39 PM

I must say I think the Falcons draft was okay, but you missed one of our 4th round picks I think...we have 3. But getting All Day and being able to add to our offensive line. The problem is I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE the Dallas Baker pick, because he's awful, and if we get a WR, it needs to be someone who could actually make the roster.

-black

04-20-2007, 07:11 PM

^^ what about the "character" risk of Merriweather?

and I didnt think I missed a pick, since I copy and pasted the draft order and then printed it...oh well, my fault if I did

jonbrodo17

04-20-2007, 07:56 PM

hey doofus
1. the eagles pick 26
2. lito is number 26 so griffen cant be that
3. they would take Aaron Ross

-black

04-20-2007, 08:10 PM

hey doofus
1. the eagles pick 26
2. lito is number 26 so griffen cant be that
3. they would take Aaron Ross

thanks :).........