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ellsy82
06-13-2011, 04:32 AM
Round One:

1.01 - Denver: Andrew Luck*, QB, Stanford
1.02 - Cincinnati: Matt Kalil*, OT, USC
1.03 - Buffalo: Quinton Couples, DE/OLB, North Carolina
1.04 - Minnesota: Alshon Jeffery*, WR, South Carolina
1.05 - Washington: Matt Barkley*, QB, USC
1.06 - Carolina: D.J. Fluker*, OT, Alabama
1.07 - Arizona: Landry Jones*, QB, Oklahoma
1.08 - Cleveland: Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama
1.09 - Tennessee: Jonathon Martin*, OT, Stanford
1.10 - San Francisco: Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma St
1.11 - Miami: Donte Paige-Moss*, OLB, North Carolina
1.12 - Oakland: Manti Te'o*, ILB, Notre Dame
1.13 - Jacksonville: Jayron Hosely*, CB, Virginia Tech
1.14 - Seattle: Jerel Worthy*, DT, Michigan St
1.15 - Kansas City: Vontaze Burflict*, ILB, Arizona St
1.16 - St. Louis: Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama
1.17 - Houston: Rieff Riley*, OT, Iowa
1.18 - New England: Jared Crick, DT/DE, Nebraska
1.19 - Dallas: Stephen Gilmore*, CB, South Carolina
1.20 - NY Jets: Courtney Upshaw, LB, Alabama
1.21 - NY Giants: Mike Brewster, C, Ohio St
1.22 - Cleveland: Marcus Forston*, DT, Miami
1.23 - Baltimore: David DeCastro*, OG, Stanford
1.24 - Tampa Bay: Kelechi Omesele, OG, Iowa St
1.25 - Indianapolis: Nate Porter, OT, Boise St
1.26 - Philadelphia: Brandon Jenkins*, DE, FSU
1.27 - San Diego: Travis Lewis, ILB, Oklahoma
1.28 - Detroit: Alphonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
1.29 - New England: Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
1.30 - Green Bay: Cliff Harris*, CB, Oregon
1.31 - Chicago: Peter Konz*, C, Wisconsin
1.32 - Pittsburgh: Robert Lester*, FS, Alabama

Round Two:

2.33 - Denver: Tydreke Powell, DT, North Carolina
2.34 - Cincinnati: Devin Taylor*, DE, South Carolina
2.35 - Washinton: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St
2.36 - Buffalo: Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
2.37 - Minnesota: Mohamed Sanu*, WR, Rutgers
2.38 - Cleveland: Kheeston Randall, DT, Texas
2.39 - Carolina: Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
2.40 - Arizona: Kwame Geathers*, NT, Georgia
2.41 - San Francisco: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
2.42 - Tennessee: Bobby Massie*, OT, Ole Miss
2.43 - Oakland: John Brantley, QB, Florida
2.44 - Miami: Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson
2.45 - Jacksonville: Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
2.46 - Seattle: Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
2.47 - Kansas City: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma St
2.48 - St. Louis: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
2.49 - Houston: Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
2.50 - New Orleans: Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
2.51 - Dallas: Baker Steinkuhler*, DE, Nebraska
2.52 - NY Jets: Morris Claiborne*, CB, LSU
2.53 - NY Giants: Vaughn Telemaque*, FS, Miami
2.54 - Atlanta: Tanner Hawkinson*, OT, Kansas
2.55 - Baltimore: Brandon Lyndsey, OLB, Pittsburgh
2.56 - Tampa Bay: Kniles Davis*, RB, Arkansas
2.57 - Indianapolis: Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
2.58 - Philadelphia: E.J. Manuel*, QB, FSU
2.59 - San Diego: Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia
2.60 - Detroit: Shayne Skov*, OLB, Stanford
2.61 - New England: Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall
2.62 - Green Bay: T.J. McDonald*, FS, USC
2.63 - Chicago: Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
2.64 - Pittsburgh: Luke Kuechly*, ILB, Boston College

Matthew Jones
06-13-2011, 07:38 AM
The Patriots have Oakland's second round pick.

Poz51
06-13-2011, 07:49 AM
What is the logic behind Buffalo taking 2 OLB's in next years draft with thier first two picks?

K Train
06-13-2011, 10:15 AM
luke in the second is amazing, i would like chase minnifield at 32 since they missed out on dennard.

if we went S i think id late ray ray or tate

wicket
06-13-2011, 10:19 AM
hate the saints pick tbqh. Unless Jimmy Graham breaks a leg or something I dont want to spend such an early pick on a TE.

The slamdunk pick without question is luke Kuechly (I really dont get how he would fall this far)

other picks that one could consider:
Greg Childs, Juron Criner, top rated OT.


Also, what the hell are Brantley and EJ Manuel doing in the first. One of em never really started and the other one was a bottom third QB in CFB in the season he did

phlysac
06-13-2011, 12:45 PM
I just don't see any scenario where the 49ers take a WR in both the 1st and 2nd rounds. Also, as usual, the NFC WEST winner can't pick that highly (16).

prock
06-13-2011, 01:14 PM
You gave the Vikings two receivers. Give us a tackle in the first and a receiver in the second.

vikes_28
06-13-2011, 01:25 PM
Two receivers? Is Percy Harvin going to die?

ellsy82
06-13-2011, 02:04 PM
Two receivers? Is Percy Harvin going to die?

I'll have to edit this up quite a bit, obviously. Thanks for the info on the Oakland 2nd round pick. Was looking everywhere for an updated draft order, but couldn't find one. It'll probably change again once free agency hits.

OSUGiants17
06-13-2011, 02:06 PM
No way Kuechly makes it to round two, let alone pick 64. Brewster is an ok pick, but we have no need for a safety round 2 unless KP can't fully recover. Give us Kuechly round 2.

Pat Sims 90
06-13-2011, 05:17 PM
Kaili is terrible in the 1st. DL, DB, RB, C all bigger needs

Taylor is fine in the 2nd.

ArkyRamsFan
06-13-2011, 05:37 PM
Appreciate that you have the Rams winning the NFC West; however, this also means that we would not be picking any higher than 24.

Also, don't know about a running back in the first round. Steven Jackson is getting up there and definitely has some wear on those tires, but he is still only 28 (29 by the '12 draft) and still has a few years left as our feature back.

St. Louis does have a huge need for interior linemen both offensively as well as defensively. Somebody like Jared Crick would be an excellent choice.

ellsy82
06-14-2011, 02:02 AM
Updated from Suggestions/Updated Draft Order

Round One

1.01 - Washington: Andrew Luck*, QB, Stanford
1.02 - Denver: Matt Kalil*, OT, USC
1.03 - Cincinnati: Quinton Couples, DE/OLB, North Carolina
1.04 - Minnesota: D.J. Fluker*, OT, Alabama
1.05 - Buffalo: Matt Barkley*, QB, USC
1.06 - Arizona: Jonathan Martin*, OT, Stanford
1.07 - Carolina: Alshon Jeffery*, WR, South Carolina
1.08 - Cleveland: Manti Te'o*, OLB, North Carolina
1.09 - Tennessee: Jerel Worthy*, DT, Michigan St
1.10 - San Francisco: Vontaze Burflict*, ILB, Arizona St
1.11 - Miami: Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama
1.12 - Oakland: Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma St
1.13 - Jacksonville: Jayron Hosely*, CB, Virginia Tech
1.14 - Seattle: Donte Paige-Moss*, DE, North Carolina
1.15 - Kansas City: Riley Reiff*, OT, Iowa
1.16 - Dallas: Stephen Gilmore*, CB, South Carolina
1.17 - Houston: Brandon Jenkins*, OLB, FSU
1.18 - New England: Jared Crick, DT/DE, Nebraska
1.19 - Chicago: Luke Kuechly*, OLB, Boston College
1.20 - NY Giants: Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
1.21 - Cleveland: Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama
1.22 - NY Jets: Devin Taylor*, OLB, South Carolina
1.23 - Detroit: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
1.24 - Baltimore: Courtney Upshaw, ILB, Alabama
1.25 - St Louis: Marcus Forston*, DT, Miami
1.26 - Indianapolis: Cliff Harris*, CB, Oregon
1.27 - Tampa Bay: David DeCastro*, OG, Stanford
1.28 - San Diego: Bobbie Massie*, OT, Ole Miss
1.29 - Green Bay: Kelichi Osemele, OG, Iowa St
1.30 - New England: Brandon Lindsey, OLB, Pittsburgh
1.31 - Philadelphia: Kheeston Randall, DT, Texas
1.32 - Pittsburgh: Robert Lester*, FS, Alabama

Round Two:

2.33 - Washington: Kwame Geathers*, NT, Georgia
2.34 - Denver: Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
2.35 - Cincinnati: Knile Davis*, RB, Arkansas
2.36 - Buffalo: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St
2.37 - Minnesota: Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
2.38 - Cleveland: Nate Potter, OT, Boise St
2.39 - Arizona: Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
2.40 - Carolina: Vaughn Telemaque*, FS, Miami
2.41 - San Francisco: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma St
2.42 - Tennessee: Mike Brewster, C, Ohio St
2.43 - New England: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
2.44 - Miami: Landry Jones*, QB, Oklahoma
2.45 - Dallas: Baker Steinkuhler*, DE, Nebraska
2.46 - Jacksonville: Travis Lewis, OLB, Okahoma
2.47 - Seattle: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
2.48 - Kansas City: Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia
2.49 - NY Giants: Tydreke Powell, DT, North Carolina
2.50 - New Orleans: Ray Ray Armstrong*, SS, Miami
2.51 - Chicago: Chris Polk*, RB, Washington
2.52 - Houston: Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington
2.53 - Atlanta: Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
2.54 - NY Jets: Shayne Skovinson*, OLB, Stanford
2.55 - Detroit: Andrew Datko, OT/OG, Florida St
2.56 - Baltimore: T.J. McDonaldvis*, FS, USC
2.57 - St. Louis: Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
2.58 - Indianapolis: Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson
2.59 - Tampa Bay: Desmond Trufant*, CB, Washington
2.60 - San Diego: Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall
2.61 - Green Bay: Mark Barron, SS, Alabama
2.62 - New England: DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio St
2.63 - Philadelphia: Matt Reynods, OT, BYU
2.64 - Pittsburgh: Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas

Pat Sims 90
06-14-2011, 02:21 AM
Couples is a terrible pick also he not worth a top 5 pick. Bengals don't run a 3-4 and will not as long as Zimmer is there.

roscoesdad27
06-14-2011, 05:47 AM
ravens,

We dont need help at lb unless Ray literally says hes gonna retire, in which case we would need a "mike" and Upshaw is a "ted"/olb tweener. Give us bpa R. Lester to backup and eventually replace Ed Reed.

That would be a great second round pick if we go 5 tech or center round 1 but if we take Lester then B. Winn would an ideal 5 tech for us there.

K Train
06-14-2011, 09:36 AM
id like brewster there....brewster and pouncey would be magical on the interior, or minnifield, but not really that high on lester in the late first.

1. Brewster
2. Kenny Tate

1. Minnifield
2. Cordy Glenn

would both be ideal for the steelers

cmarq83
06-14-2011, 09:59 AM
1.18 - New England: Jared Crick, DT/DE, Nebraska
1.30 - New England: Brandon Lindsey, OLB, Pittsburgh

2.43 - New England: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
2.62 - New England: DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio St


Absolutely love the first round and I think that Jared Crick is a perfect need/value pick for the Patriots.

However, that second round seems a bit redundant. If the Patriots are in a position to pick 2 receivers that high it would imply that both Welker and Branch are gone in free agency, and in that case they would need somebody who could fill their roles in the offense, and while I'm a fan of both Floyd and Posey the Patriots don't have typically run too many sets with larger Split End type receivers. I certainly think they need at least one, but if they're picking 2 I think it's far more likely they'll pick a Ryan Broyles type with that second 2nd round pick.

thenewfeature06
06-14-2011, 10:00 AM
I liked both selections.. Teo' could most likely play OLB and teaming him with McClain would form such a nice core.

However, Justin Blackmon could do wonders for us.

thebow305
06-14-2011, 01:14 PM
DPM is a good pick, but if we take a te in the second and its not egnew I'll be pissed.

ellsy82
06-14-2011, 02:15 PM
id like brewster there....brewster and pouncey would be magical on the interior, or minnifield, but not really that high on lester in the late first.

1. Brewster
2. Kenny Tate

1. Minnifield
2. Cordy Glenn

would both be ideal for the steelers

Haha...can't please everyone. I certainly wouldn't mind a first round corner for the Steelers, I just think we address a position that we haven't touched with an early round pick in awhile. Brewster would be a helluva LG...which could also move fat arse over to RG. I kind of see Brewster as a Ijalana/Cannon/Wisneiwski type, who's probably gonna fall to the middle of the second round. You gotta take the rose-colored glasses off and realize not all centers coming out are as talented, or as worthy of a first round pick, as Pouncey. I would love to get him, however.

I tried to find a way to get Kevin Zeitler from Wisconsin in the second round, but I just can't envision him ever getting past the 2.50 to 2.61 range.

So, Simms...you don't like OT, or DE for the first Bengals pick. WHO would you rather have? DT? C? OG? DB? If the Bengals do finish in the top five, the only guy within suitable range is Dre Kirkpatrick...and that's if he declares? Otherwise your looking at Jerel Worthy, which I think would be a bit of a reach inside the 5, or DeCastro? I don't think you want to go there. And I doubt you'd take another WR with Green drafted in the first this year.

That is, unless you want Luck or Barkley.

ellsy82
06-14-2011, 02:24 PM
ravens,

We dont need help at lb unless Ray literally says hes gonna retire, in which case we would need a "mike" and Upshaw is a "ted"/olb tweener. Give us bpa R. Lester to backup and eventually replace Ed Reed.

That would be a great second round pick if we go 5 tech or center round 1 but if we take Lester then B. Winn would an ideal 5 tech for us there.

I was thinking about giving you guys Forston, but I realize that's more of a 43 front NT and Newsome likes guys that are consistent in their play. Who knows, if he steps up his motor, he could be in the top 10. The free safety position is so very much up in the air right now. So many underclassmen with so many question marks and inconsistent play. I actually can't believe that Mark Barron is currently rated so low. I understand he's coming off a pec injury, but still. And the two underclassmen from Miami, such inconsistent play that you want to really watch them close this coming year. And Lester...one hit wonder...so far.

OSUGiants17
06-14-2011, 02:32 PM
DT with a ton of money invested in Canty as well as spending a 2nd on DT 2 years in a row with two potential studs in Joseph and Austin? Why? Give us RB, OT, C, or DE if RB and neither O-Line position is available. Give us
1. Potter
2. Skov

or

1. Brown
2. Polk

ellsy82
06-14-2011, 02:45 PM
DT with a ton of money invested in Canty as well as spending a 2nd on DT 2 years in a row with two potential studs in Joseph and Austin? Why? Give us RB, OT, C, or DE if RB and neither O-Line position is available. Give us
1. Potter
2. Skov

or

1. Brown
2. Polk

Out of curiousity, do you think the Giants would consider Trent Richardson in the first if he declared?

shylo3716
06-14-2011, 02:51 PM
Updated from Suggestions/Updated Draft Order

Round One

1.01 - Washington: Andrew Luck*, QB, Stanford
1.02 - Denver: Matt Kalil*, OT, USC
1.03 - Cincinnati: Quinton Couples, DE/OLB, North Carolina
1.04 - Minnesota: D.J. Fluker*, OT, Alabama
1.05 - Buffalo: Matt Barkley*, QB, USC
1.06 - Arizona: Jonathan Martin*, OT, Stanford
1.07 - Carolina: Alshon Jeffery*, WR, South Carolina
1.08 - Cleveland: Manti Te'o*, OLB, North Carolina
1.09 - Tennessee: Jerel Worthy*, DT, Michigan St
1.10 - San Francisco: Vontaze Burflict*, ILB, Arizona St
1.11 - Miami: Dre Kirkpatrick*, CB, Alabama
1.12 - Oakland: Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma St
1.13 - Jacksonville: Jayron Hosely*, CB, Virginia Tech
1.14 - Seattle: Donte Paige-Moss*, DE, North Carolina
1.15 - Kansas City: Riley Reiff*, OT, Iowa
1.16 - Dallas: Stephen Gilmore*, CB, South Carolina
1.17 - Houston: Brandon Jenkins*, OLB, FSU
1.18 - New England: Jared Crick, DT/DE, Nebraska
1.19 - Chicago: Luke Kuechly*, OLB, Boston College
1.20 - NY Giants: Zach Brown, OLB, North Carolina
1.21 - Cleveland: Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama
1.22 - NY Jets: Devin Taylor*, OLB, South Carolina
1.23 - Detroit: Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
1.24 - Baltimore: Courtney Upshaw, ILB, Alabama
1.25 - St Louis: Marcus Forston*, DT, Miami
1.26 - Indianapolis: Cliff Harris*, CB, Oregon
1.27 - Tampa Bay: David DeCastro*, OG, Stanford
1.28 - San Diego: Bobbie Massie*, OT, Ole Miss
1.29 - Green Bay: Kelichi Osemele, OG, Iowa St
1.30 - New England: Brandon Lindsey, OLB, Pittsburgh
1.31 - Philadelphia: Kheeston Randall, DT, Texas
1.32 - Pittsburgh: Robert Lester*, FS, Alabama

Round Two:

2.33 - Washington: Kwame Geathers*, NT, Georgia
2.34 - Denver: Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
2.35 - Cincinnati: Knile Davis*, RB, Arkansas
2.36 - Buffalo: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St
2.37 - Minnesota: Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
2.38 - Cleveland: Nate Potter, OT, Boise St
2.39 - Arizona: Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
2.40 - Carolina: Vaughn Telemaque*, FS, Miami
2.41 - San Francisco: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma St
2.42 - Tennessee: Mike Brewster, C, Ohio St
2.43 - New England: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
2.44 - Miami: Landry Jones*, QB, Oklahoma
2.45 - Dallas: Baker Steinkuhler*, DE, Nebraska
2.46 - Jacksonville: Travis Lewis, OLB, Okahoma
2.47 - Seattle: Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
2.48 - Kansas City: Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia
2.49 - NY Giants: Tydreke Powell, DT, North Carolina
2.50 - New Orleans: Ray Ray Armstrong*, SS, Miami
2.51 - Chicago: Chris Polk*, RB, Washington
2.52 - Houston: Alameda Ta'amu, DT, Washington
2.53 - Atlanta: Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
2.54 - NY Jets: Shayne Skovinson*, OLB, Stanford
2.55 - Detroit: Andrew Datko, OT/OG, Florida St
2.56 - Baltimore: T.J. McDonaldvis*, FS, USC
2.57 - St. Louis: Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
2.58 - Indianapolis: Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson
2.59 - Tampa Bay: Desmond Trufant*, CB, Washington
2.60 - San Diego: Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall
2.61 - Green Bay: Mark Barron, SS, Alabama
2.62 - New England: DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio St
2.63 - Philadelphia: Matt Reynods, OT, BYU
2.64 - Pittsburgh: Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas


No E.J. Manuel!!!!!!!!!!! :/ Mock = Fail LOL

LOVE the effort all jokes aside

As for Philly we are goin CB IF we don't snatch up Nnamdi

OSUGiants17
06-14-2011, 04:10 PM
Out of curiousity, do you think the Giants would consider Trent Richardson in the first if he declared?

Not unless the value was insane

BaLLiN
06-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Out of curiousity, do you think the Giants would consider Trent Richardson in the first if he declared?

I think definitely. Bradshaw is constantly injured, Jacobs takes such a long time to build up momentum and is extremely inconsistent, Danny ware has show next to nothing, and Da'rell scott was a 7th round pick who was constantly injured in college.

Trent Richardson also has something we haven't had in a long time, big play speed from the runningback position.


I say:

1. Trent Richardson RB
2. Peter Konz C

TheFinisher
06-15-2011, 09:28 AM
Gilmore to Dallas would be money

King Carls 5 Year Plan
06-15-2011, 10:07 AM
you know, eventually, everyone that mocks an OT in the 1st for the Chiefs will be right. or will they? Pioli's evil plan of ruining mocks has a streak of 2+ years. maybe he keeps it going and NEVER drafts an OT in round 1.

mocks are going to be hard this early. not only will you not please everyone, but there is so much yet to be determined. selection order, team needs, the value of a particular player w/o having played the 2011 season just to name a few.

currently i would say ILB, CB, RB, G could all be positions the Chiefs look at early in 2012 draft.

ellsy82
06-16-2011, 12:49 AM
Hey King, I agree. Too many variable. Injuries, order, the uncertainty of free agency. I, for one, just love watching these college kids on my dvr. Unfortunately, it doesn't allow me to watch every player on every play, but it does allow me to see the playmakers. The downside to such is that I can't hone in on a certain player and watch them all game long. But, the highlight reels on the internet usually fill in the blanks for me.

KC needs an ILB? I see either Burfict or Luechly with yer name on it.

PossumBoy9
07-03-2011, 10:13 AM
Appreciate that you have the Rams winning the NFC West; however, this also means that we would not be picking any higher than 24.

It means they wouldn't be picking any higher than #21.

Also, don't know about a running back in the first round. Steven Jackson is getting up there and definitely has some wear on those tires, but he is still only 28 (29 by the '12 draft) and still has a few years left as our feature back.

St. Louis does have a huge need for interior linemen both offensively as well as defensively. Somebody like Jared Crick would be an excellent choice.

Richardson would be a dream choice for the Rams, IMO. You certainly take him over Crick, since he's a better prospect.

I don't disagree that the Rams have needs in those areas, but don't draft for pure need....that's how we got stuck with Jason Smith.

phlysac
07-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Your intial mock was this...

1.10 - San Francisco: Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma St
2.41 - San Francisco: Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

of which, I responded...

I just don't see any scenario where the 49ers take a WR in both the 1st and 2nd rounds. Also, as usual, the NFC WEST winner can't pick that highly (16).

Your updated mock was...

1.10 - San Francisco: Vontaze Burflict*, ILB, Arizona St
2.41 - San Francisco: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma St

I think you need to combine your thoughts.

I don't see Burfict being the selection because the 49ers are excited about both NaVorro Bowman and Scott McKillop who've they've drafted to play TED the past 2 seasons.

As for Adcock, Joe Staley is under contract until 2017 and is an unquestioned team leader. They just drafted Anthony Davis with their 1st pick last season. This also doesn't include Alex Boone who has been looking very much like a contributing NFL OT the past two offseasons.

If the boards were to fall as you suggest, my opinion is the selections would be a simple combination of CB/WR.

1. Dre Kirkpatrick/Justin Blackmon
2. Michael Floyd/Chase Minnifield.

ArkyRamsFan
07-03-2011, 08:43 PM
It means they wouldn't be picking any higher than #21.



Richardson would be a dream choice for the Rams, IMO. You certainly take him over Crick, since he's a better prospect.

I don't disagree that the Rams have needs in those areas, but don't draft for pure need....that's how we got stuck with Jason Smith.

We are not "stuck" with Jason Smith. I remain confident that he will continue to develop and become the player that Rams fans envisioned when he was selected.

Don't forget that he started his college career as a TE and has only been playing the tackle position for a few years now. He is going to get much better as he continues to improve his technique.

I think many Rams fans have a tendency to compare him to Rodger Saffold who had an amazing rookie campaign. Smith, like fine wine, is going to take a little more time.

Be patient...

P.S. If we win the NFC West how could we possibly be slotted at #21? Since there are only 8 Division winners who would pick after us?

PossumBoy9
07-04-2011, 07:11 PM
We are not "stuck" with Jason Smith. I remain confident that he will continue to develop and become the player that Rams fans envisioned when he was selected.

Don't forget that he started his college career as a TE and has only been playing the tackle position for a few years now. He is going to get much better as he continues to improve his technique.

I think many Rams fans have a tendency to compare him to Rodger Saffold who had an amazing rookie campaign. Smith, like fine wine, is going to take a little more time.

Be patient...

Patient? For a #2 overall right tackle? Smith is never going to live up to his pick.

P.S. If we win the NFC West how could we possibly be slotted at #21? Since there are only 8 Division winners who would pick after us?

The Rams could be have the worst record of the 12 playoff teams....and not advance past the wildcard round.

Texas Homer
07-08-2011, 12:59 AM
Thanks for the Mock.

Its so early that I'm not sure who/what direction or player I hope that the Texans draft in.

ellsy82
07-08-2011, 10:30 PM
Thanks for the Mock.

Its so early that I'm not sure who/what direction or player I hope that the Texans draft in.

Doesn't Houston still need a nose tackle pretty badly?

ellsy82
07-08-2011, 10:48 PM
why is denver taking an OT?

Ryan Harris always seems to be injured. Granted, you drafted Orlando Bloom, but I believe depth is still there. I would've gone after a defensive tackle...

Edit: Where is Denver taking an OT?

ellsy82
07-08-2011, 10:58 PM
Ryan Harris always seems to be injured. Granted, you drafted Orlando Bloom, but I believe depth is still there. I would've gone after a defensive tackle...

Edit(1): Where is Denver taking an OT?

Edit(2): Awww...the revision. My bad. Hey...I did give you guys a DLineman. In the second. :)

K Train
07-09-2011, 10:12 AM
Ryan Harris always seems to be injured. Granted, you drafted Orlando Bloom, but I believe depth is still there. I would've gone after a defensive tackle...

Edit: Where is Denver taking an OT?

ryan clady? and orlando franklin?

orlando bloom is an elf and a pirate

ellsy82
07-09-2011, 10:26 AM
ryan clady? and orlando franklin?

orlando bloom is an elf and a pirate

Cocaine...its a helluva drug. Heh.

Ryan Harris is the RT.

rawdawg
07-09-2011, 11:03 AM
First draft, was perfect for the Bears (not to mention a Superbowl appearance). The 2nd Bears draft is pretty craptastic.

ellsy82
07-09-2011, 11:11 AM
First draft, was perfect for the Bears (not to mention a Superbowl appearance). The 2nd Bears draft is pretty craptastic.

I'm fairly confident the Bears will be back in the playoffs. Sorry about the revision...Can't please everyone right?

jCut
07-09-2011, 03:13 PM
Interesting Denver draft. Me likey Andrew Luck.

rawdawg
07-09-2011, 08:26 PM
I'm fairly confident the Bears will be back in the playoffs. Sorry about the revision...Can't please everyone right?

Hey, there's been plenty of real drafts the Bears have had that I didn't like. I'm not going to get too bent out of shape about a mock.

And FWIW, you don't have the Bears in the playoffs in the 2nd mock.

DeepThreat
07-10-2011, 01:07 PM
First one for the Browns was terrible. They just drafted Phil Taylor in the first and have Ahtyba Rubin, so two DT's are incredibly unnecessary.

Second one was awesome, especially Trent Richardson outside of the top 15.

ellsy82
07-10-2011, 05:04 PM
First one for the Browns was terrible. They just drafted Phil Taylor in the first and have Ahtyba Rubin, so two DT's are incredibly unnecessary.

Second one was awesome, especially Trent Richardson outside of the top 15.

From a Steeler fan, I think you guys are doing alright. Building from the inside out. Not looking forward to playing you in five years.

TheFinisher
07-13-2011, 06:43 PM
Recommenting on this because I saw you had Dallas passing on Ray Ray in the 2nd... don't do that!

1. Stephon Gilmore
2. Ray Ray Armstrong

Me= Backflips

ellsy82
07-13-2011, 07:46 PM
Recommenting on this because I saw you had Dallas passing on Ray Ray in the 2nd... don't do that!

1. Stephon Gilmore
2. Ray Ray Armstrong

Me= Backflips


Meh...Ray Ray. Nothing spectacular about the guy, imo. I'd rather take Mark Barron. And Steinkuhler, if you've ever seen him play, is a total workhorse. A perfect 5tech lineman. No way I'd take Armstrong over Steinhuhler if my needs were safety, corner, and defensive end. Granted, you guys have nothing at safety right now...but the middle rounds should be teeming with solid prospects at the position. 34 front ends are more difficult to find the deeper the draft goes.

JPF
07-15-2011, 12:21 AM
The second attempt for the Panthers is pretty good, especially the first round. Not sure FS is a big need at this point but given how you have things falling it's not a bad pick.