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steelcrew43
06-19-2011, 01:39 AM
this prospect has decent speed, incredible hands and great intangibles.

has no care for his body and lays out for balls...stevelargent in the making

Duffman57
06-19-2011, 02:02 AM
Jeff Mahel>>>>>Dane Sanzenbacher

Mahel is the same sort of receiver, but taller and bigger. He's the bigger question why he didn't get drafted. Not to mention he put up much better #'s in college.

Woody56
06-19-2011, 02:15 AM
Small and White.

ellsy82
06-19-2011, 09:11 AM
Small and White.

LMAO...he's the next Wes Welker. haha.

Shane P. Hallam
06-19-2011, 09:52 AM
Jeff Mahel>>>>>Dane Sanzenbacher

Mahel is the same sort of receiver, but taller and bigger. He's the bigger question why he didn't get drafted. Not to mention he put up much better #'s in college.

But not as explosive or fast.

ellsy82
06-19-2011, 09:57 AM
But not as explosive or fast.

Much to be decided once free agency resumes.

Big Bird
06-19-2011, 10:47 AM
But not as explosive or fast.
Except for the fact they ran the same forty, and Maehl had a faster 20-Yard Shuttle and 3-Cone Drill?

OhioState
06-19-2011, 08:14 PM
Jeff Mahel>>>>>Dane Sanzenbacher

Mahel is the same sort of receiver, but taller and bigger. He's the bigger question why he didn't get drafted. Not to mention he put up much better #'s in college.

Mahel: 6'1" 184lb
77 rec 1076 yards (avg 14 ypc) 12 td's 2010 season

Sanzenbacher: 5'11" 182
55 rec 948 yards (avg 17.2 ypc) 11 td's 2010 season

So not that much bigger, or taller. And I wouldn't say MUCH better #'s in college, but surely a little better.

Shane P. Hallam
06-19-2011, 08:19 PM
Except for the fact they ran the same forty, and Maehl had a faster 20-Yard Shuttle and 3-Cone Drill?

Watch the tape.

Halsey
06-19-2011, 08:31 PM
More famous than good? I'm no authority on Sanzenbacher, but being a well known player at a big university doesn't automatically make someone a great NFL prospect.

Sloopy
06-20-2011, 08:06 AM
I won't argue who is better, but let me put it to you this way: The kid made Terrell Pryor look good at times.

I'd venture to guess we'll see him rear his head in the NFL sometime in the next few years. Kinda reminds me a bit of Danny Amendola

bitonti
06-20-2011, 09:43 AM
the real question you should be asking is "why draft this player?"

every year there are about 1000 prospects who have some shot at the 250 or so draft picks. To get into the actual draft there has to be some reason and that reason is usually physical upside.

this is not to say Dane S. suks, in fact he might be great. he might be the next Wayne Chrebet. But Wayne wasn't drafted either.

EricCartmann
06-20-2011, 09:43 AM
I have ADD and can't think about these guys right now... I am still waiting for Nick Miller to be the next Wes Welker. Raiders need to get him in the games!

Texas Homer
07-04-2011, 02:45 PM
Not sure.

I'd take him on the Texans.

Shane P. Hallam
07-04-2011, 03:14 PM
the real question you should be asking is "why draft this player?"

every year there are about 1000 prospects who have some shot at the 250 or so draft picks. To get into the actual draft there has to be some reason and that reason is usually physical upside.

this is not to say Dane S. suks, in fact he might be great. he might be the next Wayne Chrebet. But Wayne wasn't drafted either.

That was the big issue with THIS draft with UDFA taking more time. Teams were getting their sleepers in the 7th round instead of UDFA because teams would have time to find them.

I think it is worth it at times to secure a solid contributor. Is Sanzenbacher more than a 4th WR? No, but I think you know what you are getting. Take Blair White, undrafted. He contributed. 5 touchdowns, 36 catches for 355 yards. Compare to a big upside guy like Carlton Mitchell who didn't have a catch as a rookie.

shylo3716
07-04-2011, 09:16 PM
Hilarious this thread mysteriously arouse.......He got Pryor out of a lot of jams.

bucfan12
07-05-2011, 07:53 AM
its funny because during Pryors QB camp with Gruden, Gruden was basically in love with how Sanzenbacher played and pointed out to Pryor how he bailed him out in situations.

He actually went as far as labeling his performance to MVP like, and asked Pryor how he got the award when he bailed him out with those TDs.

FTRWRTR
07-06-2011, 03:21 PM
this prospect has decent speed, Running a 4.6/40 at 183 pounds is not "decent speed", it's not decent anything. If someone wanted to take a flyer on him in the 7th, I'd have no problem with that but IMO an UDFA is what I expected him to be.

JoeJoeBrown
07-06-2011, 04:14 PM
Running a 4.6/40 at 183 pounds is not "decent speed", it's not decent anything. If someone wanted to take a flyer on him in the 7th, I'd have no problem with that but IMO an UDFA is what I expected him to be.

He is quick as hell. He ran some of the fastest shuttle and cone times of not only this year but of the past several drafts. Much more important than being a straightline burner. He's small and I think that has burned him. Which is idiotic because the guy is a baller. He's a legit #3 receiver.

FTRWRTR
07-07-2011, 12:15 PM
He is quick as hell. He ran some of the fastest shuttle and cone times of not only this year but of the past several drafts. Much more important than being a straightline burner. He's small and I think that has burned him. Which is idiotic because the guy is a baller. He's a legit #3 receiver.Which is why some team will pick him up as a UDFA, however the original question was why wasn't he drafted which I answered. Whether you agree with it or not, no one is drafting a 183 lb wr who runs a 4.6/40.

ArkyRamsFan
07-07-2011, 04:30 PM
Well along these same lines what do ya'll think of the Rams taking Austin Pettis in the THIRD round? Although he is bigger than Sanzenbacher he also ran a 4.6/40 at the combine.

Does anybody think the Rams may have reached or what?

J255979-11nine
07-07-2011, 11:37 PM
Which is why some team will pick him up as a UDFA, however the original question was why wasn't he drafted which I answered. Whether you agree with it or not, no one is drafting a 183 lb wr who runs a 4.6/40.

Dexter McCluster?

Matthew Jones
07-08-2011, 08:59 AM
I don't know if Sanzenbacher can get separation in the NFL, but he should be a great special teams player for someone if they have a spare roster spot. I think any fan would be happy to see their team sign him.

MI_Buckeye
07-08-2011, 02:45 PM
I don't know if Sanzenbacher can get separation in the NFL, but he should be a great special teams player for someone if they have a spare roster spot. I think any fan would be happy to see their team sign him.

Really? Special Teams? I'm not sure if the guy played a down of special teams at OSU and for a coach that plays a ton of starters on his special teams units. He is small with average speed, and I could not possibly see him projecting as a high-quality special teams prospect. IMO, that probably greatly diminished his chances of getting drafted.

YAYareaRB
07-08-2011, 03:33 PM
As Jon Gruden described him, Sanzenbacher is “reliable” in every sense of the word, and he epitomizes what it means to be an NFL football player. He has the heart to make an impact, and whatever team winds up signing him is getting some kind of gem.

http://nflmocks.com/2011/07/06/dont-forget-about-me-ohio-state-wr-dane-sanzenbacher-should-find-a-home-quickly/

Nice article on him

REDSKINSWARRIOR82
07-09-2011, 01:20 AM
1.He is Small

2.Slow speed.

3. cant jump

4.he didnt have gody numbers.

FTRWRTR
07-09-2011, 01:08 PM
Well along these same lines what do ya'll think of the Rams taking Austin Pettis in the THIRD round? Although he is bigger than Sanzenbacher he also ran a 4.6/40 at the combine.

Does anybody think the Rams may have reached or what?

You seriously can't see the difference in taking a 5'11 183lb wr who runs a 4.6/40 and taking a 6'2 209lb wr who runs a 4.6/40?

Sure the rams took pettis too early but unlike Sanzenbacher he has good size for a wr and is also a redzone target.

batsandgats
07-09-2011, 03:37 PM
Austin Pettis had the same exact vertical, a few inches isn't going to help tremendously in the endzone.

About his stats, he didn't exactly play in a wide receiver friendly offense. There was one game where Pryor threw for 76 yards. I don't know about Kellen Moore as a pro prospect, but he is very accurate and they have a great passing game and Pettis wasn't even the leading receiver, less than 1,000 yards, similar numbers to Sanzenbacher, but Dane averaged 17 yards per catch, Pettis 13.4.

I don't think Hartline put up great stats but was taken in the 4th and has been decent

ArkyRamsFan
07-10-2011, 12:53 AM
Sure the rams took pettis too early but unlike Sanzenbacher he has good size for a wr and is also a redzone target.

Well, if you agree that the Rams took Pettis too early my question remains, how early? Do you think he would have been available in the 4th or even 5th round?

the_dark_knight
07-18-2011, 10:37 AM
Even though the Falcons don't have room for him on our roster, I'd still like to see him get a shot with us. I know we have Roddy and Julio and Weems and Douglas, and I assume Jenkins will hang around, but I really like Dane and the way he plays the game. He's got the potential to be a fantastic player in the pros as one of those super annoying guys who doesn't put up amazing stats but keeps the chains moving and always seems to make a play type of guys.

Brothgar
07-18-2011, 01:03 PM
Well Jordan Shipley seems to be doing fine in the NFL before the injuries

Jordan Shipley
Height: 5'11.25"
Weight: 193
40 Yrd Dash: 4.60
20 Yrd Dash: 2.60
10 Yrd Dash: 1.55
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 16
Vertical Jump: 36 1/2
Broad Jump: 09'08"

Dane Sanzenbacher
Height: 5'11 3/8"
Weight: 182
40 Yrd Dash: 4.56
20 Yrd Dash: 2.56
10 Yrd Dash: 1.56
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 09'10"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.97

The numbers seem pretty close to me.

the_dark_knight
07-18-2011, 01:29 PM
Well Jordan Shipley seems to be doing fine in the NFL before the injuries

Jordan Shipley
Height: 5'11.25"
Weight: 193
40 Yrd Dash: 4.60
20 Yrd Dash: 2.60
10 Yrd Dash: 1.55
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 16
Vertical Jump: 36 1/2
Broad Jump: 09'08"

Dane Sanzenbacher
Height: 5'11 3/8"
Weight: 182
40 Yrd Dash: 4.56
20 Yrd Dash: 2.56
10 Yrd Dash: 1.56
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 09'10"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.97

The numbers seem pretty close to me.

This is one of the most frustrating, and amazing parts about football all at the same time. People keep trying to make football a numbers game like baseball is. Well, Football doesn't work like that, there are these intangible qualities that cannot show up on any metric other than on the Gridiron, man to man, and who ever wins wins. I'm not going to use the Jerry Rice / Anquan Boldin thing here.

If there were an exact science to football, first and foremost the owners, parents, and every coach along the way would literally breed these guys. If you could somehow make 1000 Jerry Rices, you can't tell me someone wouldn't. But beyond that then there wouldn't be first round busts, and their wouldn't be undrafted players who even make a team much less become stars. This is the beauty of it all!

JaxJag_1
07-18-2011, 01:36 PM
If you watch Shipley and Sanzenbacher play football you can see a huge difference between them as athletes.

TheRoo
07-19-2011, 01:52 AM
Sanzenbacher will make it in the league. I've watched every game of his and I think I do a decent job of being objective about OSU players.

It's cliched, but Sanzenbacher has all the intangibles. He gives everything he's got every play, he blocks well, he's always in the right spot, runs great routes and catches everything.


He'll make someone's team.

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
07-26-2011, 01:21 PM
He'll be an asset to Jay in Chicago. Ricky Proehl much?

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
08-02-2011, 03:38 AM
Update: Dane, reportedly, was lightin' it up today with the 1s!

(Roy Williams and Sam Hurd can't practice yet and Johnny Knox was taking a breather but yeah... Cool, huh?!)

JoeJoeBrown
08-02-2011, 07:55 AM
Sanzenbacher Catches a Lot of Attention (http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110801/sports/708019779/)

It was difficult to not notice undrafted rookie wide receiver Dane Sanzenbacher during the Bears’ muggy Monday night practice, their first with pads.
The 5-foot-11, 180-pounder from Ohio State is one of the smaller players in camp, but he made several big plays on a still, humid night under the lights. A couple of deep sideline routes and another couple in the middle of the field, flashing sure hands and enough quickness to create separation.

“That’s what you expect from a Buckeye,” said coach Lovie Smith, who coached linebackers at Ohio State in 1995. “He had a lot of different opportunities coming in, and he chose us.
“He’s a good football player. We want to get the players in game-type situations, and he’s making the most of it.
“We all noticed him tonight.”
Sanzenbacher was a team captain and the Buckeyes’ MVP last season, when he caught 55 passes for 948 yards and 11 touchdowns.
Especially this year, when new players haven’t had the luxury of learning the playbook in the off-season, Sanzenbacher will have a narrow window to earn a job.
“I haven’t had a choice but to raise my game,” he said. “Having everything shrunk down with the lockout, it’s an even more limited amount of time for rookies to get reps, and you have to make the best of your opportunities out here.”

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
08-02-2011, 08:30 AM
Sanzenbacher Catches a Lot of Attention (http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110801/sports/708019779/)

That's what you expect from a Buckeye? Can we expect the same from Gholston and Pryor?

JoeJoeBrown
08-02-2011, 08:57 AM
That's what you expect from a Buckeye? Can we expect the same from Gholston and Pryor?

Ron Powlus and Brady Quinn appreciate your humor.

Now go back to cheering for a MAC level team that kills it's cameramen in the pursuit of mediocrity.

YAYareaRB
08-02-2011, 09:21 AM
aaaaand BOOM goes the dynamite

SolidGold
08-02-2011, 10:32 AM
Dane was very good at OSU. Although a small target he uses his whole body and is able to make some amazing catches. Pryor threw him some poopy balls and he was able to make some acrobatic catches. I would not be surprised if he becomes the bears slot guy by the end of this season.

steelcrew43
08-02-2011, 07:27 PM
tried to tell ya guys