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shylo3716
06-25-2011, 04:11 PM
Which pre-season prospects will be in the race for the Heisman this year.....Luck is a given!

Post your nominee candidate!

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TACKLE
06-25-2011, 06:39 PM
you know what time it is

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YAYareaRB
06-25-2011, 08:12 PM
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PossibleCabbage
06-25-2011, 08:21 PM
I just want someone who's not a running back or quarterback to win it. Since 1950 only three people who didn't play those positions won the Heisman (Brown, Howard, Woodson). As long as the award is "the most outstanding QB or RB in college football" the award is a joke.

shylo3716
06-25-2011, 08:58 PM
I just want someone who's not a running back or quarterback to win it. Since 1950 only three people who didn't play those positions won the Heisman (Brown, Howard, Woodson). As long as the award is "the most outstanding QB or RB in college football" the award is a joke.

Cheer up! You can always nominate Justin Blackmon

FUNBUNCHER
06-26-2011, 12:13 AM
Luck is the frontrunner, but race is wide open IMO. Three RBs from the SEC could easily win it, (Trent Richardson -just read he has a 475-500# BP!!, Marcus Lattimore, Knile Davis). Three RBs from the ACC, (Montell Harris, David Wilson, Lamar Miller). Pac 12's LaMichael James and Chris Polk are dark horse candidates.

I still think it's Luck's to lose, but whichever teams show up in the NC will likely produce the Heisman winner, and my early bet for that matchup is Alabama and FSU/Oklahoma, (Richardson/Landry Jones/EJ Manuel).


BTW the RB position is DEEP for the 2012 NFL draft.

AntoinCD
06-26-2011, 12:48 AM
Im gonna go with Landry Jones. OU should have a very good year and could compete for the NC. He is surrounded by offensive firepower and should put up huge numbers in that system. So,

Big QB prospect+big time school+lots of talent around him+lots of stats+possible NC title=great Heisman chance

Cigaro
06-26-2011, 12:56 AM
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niel89
06-26-2011, 01:35 AM
My goober is better than your football player.

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Duffman57
06-26-2011, 02:27 AM
How is LaMichael James a darkhorse???????? He was the 3rd place finisher last year. Hes got a much better chance, now that there will be in the spotlight. It's still Luck's spot to lose. The Darkhorse for me is Darron Thomas. If he can master the spread option and be a bit better throwing the ball, and making the decisions (big problem with him in the spread, needs to reed the DE a bit better) then he could end up being really good. Potentially Heisman good.

FUNBUNCHER
06-26-2011, 09:29 AM
I said LaMichael James is a Heisman darkhorse because I think he would have to be more statistically dominant than any of the RBs in the ACC and SEC, outperform Luck and Stanford, and Oregon would have to nearly duplicate their season from last year.

It's a huge uphill climb for him IMO.

OSUGiants17
06-26-2011, 10:13 AM
Final 5 candidates:
Andrew Luck
Matt Barkley
LaMichael James
Marcus Lattimore
Kellen Moore

YAYareaRB
06-26-2011, 12:00 PM
a few darkhorses

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kwilk103
06-26-2011, 08:04 PM
geno smith, qb wvu

gpngc
06-26-2011, 09:04 PM
Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech

49erNation85
06-26-2011, 10:14 PM
Kellen Moore for the win boys!

CashmoneyDrew
06-26-2011, 11:09 PM
http://sports.ap.org/college-football/content/preview/2010/20101030/20/1467cc484d97c412da0e6a706700f8bd.jpg

All 7'2" and 98 lbs. of him.

Luck who?

etk
06-28-2011, 10:36 PM
hohoho Jacory Harris is gonna win it!

Did, did you guys get it? I'm a homer xD.

Geno Smith and Logan Thomas? gtfoh

dannyz
06-29-2011, 03:58 AM
I think it will be Andrew Luck. A Dark Horse could be Trent Richardson, if Alabama goes Undefeated and he has a Big year he could win it because the Heisman voters like to give it to the best player on the National Championship Team.

K Train
06-29-2011, 08:08 AM
im not sure andrew luck will be in the conversation...much like heading into 2010 locker wasnt. Both are/were great pro prospects but not really heisman guys, luck is better and has a better chance than locker being hes on a better team but i think it will be richardson

niel89
06-29-2011, 11:52 AM
im not sure andrew luck will be in the conversation...much like heading into 2010 locker wasnt. Both are/were great pro prospects but not really heisman guys, luck is better and has a better chance than locker being hes on a better team but i think it will be richardson

Luck came in second in the heisman voting last year though. He is in the top 2-3 guys mentioned when people talk preseason heisman candidates this year.

YAYareaRB
06-29-2011, 12:13 PM
http://www.hogdb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/tyler-wilson.jpg

Watch and see

K Train
06-29-2011, 12:26 PM
Luck came in second in the heisman voting last year though. He is in the top 2-3 guys mentioned when people talk preseason heisman candidates this year.

guess its gonna depend on how stanford does without harbaugh

jrdrylie
06-29-2011, 12:34 PM
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UCF has some semi-tough matchups early in the season (Boston College and at BYU). If they win those, they have an excellent shot at an undefeated season. Southern Miss and Tulsa provide a bit of a challenge, by the Knights are a better team.

Add in solid numbers like 2800 passing yards, 700 rushing yards, and around 30 total touchdowns, jeff Godfrey has a shot. I am in no way predicting he'll win. But he's no darkhorse to at least steal some votes.

OSUGiants17
06-29-2011, 12:56 PM
Darkhorses:
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Nick Foles

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/writers/george_schroeder/11/12/oklahoma-state-weeden/brandon-weeden-p1.jpg
Brandon Weeden

dannyz
06-29-2011, 02:36 PM
I think Whats going to help Andrew Luck is that he is going to be the Face of College Football like Newton and Tebow before him. Stanford will be on TV alot and that will help because the Pac 12 is not normally on TV so more people will see him and if he puts up close to the Numbers he did in 2010 he should Win it.

jrdrylie
06-29-2011, 03:23 PM
I think Whats going to help Andrew Luck is that he is going to be the Face of College Football like Newton and Tebow before him. Stanford will be on TV alot and that will help because the Pac 12 is not normally on TV so more people will see him and if he puts up close to the Numbers he did in 2010 he should Win it.

Tebow did not win the Heisman when he was "The Face of College Football." Cam Newton didn't become "The Face of College Football" until halfway through the season. If you remember correctly, at the mid-point of the season, people were asking whether or not Denard Robinson had locked up the Heisman.

More likely, because Luck will be "The Face of College Football" he will be put under the microscope like other top prospects. Just look back at the last 5-6 years.

2005: Matt Leinart was the favorite but Bush won.
2006: Troy Smith won, but I would say Brady Quinn entered the season as the favorite.
2007: Tim Tebow was hardly on the Heisman radar this season.
2008: Sam Bradford was more on the radar than Tebow was the previous year, but Tebow was easily considered the "Face of College Football."
2009: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, and Colt McCoy were all veteran QBs, two of whom had won a Heisman previously. At the end of the day, it was a running back who won the Heisman.
2010: Locker and Ingram were the favorites this year. Injuries, poor performances, and great performances by others led to them not even being close to winning.

History shows that the favorite entering the season rarely wins. They face too much scrutiny throughout the season. I'm not saying Luck won't win, but the pressure and scrutiny that comes from being the hands-down favorite, combined with losing his head coach greatly reduces the likelihood.

EricCartmann
06-29-2011, 04:55 PM
Tebow did not win the Heisman when he was "The Face of College Football." Cam Newton didn't become "The Face of College Football" until halfway through the season. If you remember correctly, at the mid-point of the season, people were asking whether or not Denard Robinson had locked up the Heisman.

More likely, because Luck will be "The Face of College Football" he will be put under the microscope like other top prospects. Just look back at the last 5-6 years.

2005: Matt Leinart was the favorite but Bush won.
2006: Troy Smith won, but I would say Brady Quinn entered the season as the favorite.
2007: Tim Tebow was hardly on the Heisman radar this season.
2008: Sam Bradford was more on the radar than Tebow was the previous year, but Tebow was easily considered the "Face of College Football."
2009: Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, and Colt McCoy were all veteran QBs, two of whom had won a Heisman previously. At the end of the day, it was a running back who won the Heisman.
2010: Locker and Ingram were the favorites this year. Injuries, poor performances, and great performances by others led to them not even being close to winning.

History shows that the favorite entering the season rarely wins. They face too much scrutiny throughout the season. I'm not saying Luck won't win, but the pressure and scrutiny that comes from being the hands-down favorite, combined with losing his head coach greatly reduces the likelihood.

Nice post, but I would have to say Luck is different from all those because Luck is a CLEAR-CUT FAVORITE. Those guys you mentioned were just front runners barely holding on to the lead and could be over taken at any moment.. and they were.

jrdrylie
06-29-2011, 07:18 PM
Nice post, but I would have to say Luck is different from all those because Luck is a CLEAR-CUT FAVORITE. Those guys you mentioned were just front runners barely holding on to the lead and could be over taken at any moment.. and they were.

I wouldn't say Tim Tebow was barely holding on to the lead. He had just had one of the best quarterbacking seasons ever and was leading a team that was ranked in the top-10.

YAYareaRB
06-29-2011, 07:47 PM
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nrk
06-30-2011, 04:09 PM
Nice post, but I would have to say Luck is different from all those because Luck is a CLEAR-CUT FAVORITE. Those guys you mentioned were just front runners barely holding on to the lead and could be over taken at any moment.. and they were.

Troy Smith had 80%+ of the votes when he won. Reggie wasn't as high but still almost had double the amount of total votes than the guy next to him, Leinart. They sure as hell wasn't going to give it to him twice. Smith and Bush were total clear cut favorites. They weren't "barely holding on to the lead".

FUNBUNCHER
06-30-2011, 04:24 PM
I think he means clear cut favorite PRIOR to the season.

Troy Smith wasn't the Heisman favorite in September, I don't think Reggie Bush was either before he won it, mainly because he was on a team with last year's winner.

Luck goes into 2011 as the Heisman favorite by a wide margin.

nrk
06-30-2011, 04:37 PM
I think he means clear cut favorite PRIOR to the season.

Troy Smith wasn't the Heisman favorite in September, I don't think Reggie Bush was either before he won it, mainly because he was on a team with last year's winner.

Luck goes into 2011 as the Heisman favorite by a wide margin.

The fact remains that they didn't barely hold the lead. No one was going to touch them in the votes, especially Troy Smith.

Favorites going into the season for heisman doesn't mean jack as Jrdrylie showed. It means less than preseason rankings.

EricCartmann
06-30-2011, 06:31 PM
I think he means clear cut favorite PRIOR to the season.

Troy Smith wasn't the Heisman favorite in September, I don't think Reggie Bush was either before he won it, mainly because he was on a team with last year's winner.

Luck goes into 2011 as the Heisman favorite by a wide margin.

This for the win!

EricCartmann
06-30-2011, 06:35 PM
The fact remains that they didn't barely hold the lead. No one was going to touch them in the votes, especially Troy Smith.

Favorites going into the season for heisman doesn't mean jack as Jrdrylie showed. It means less than preseason rankings.


I apologize for speaking 8th grade English when I should be speaking 2nd grade English.

Those favorites going into the season were not clear cut leaders like Luck is.

Those guys that Jrdrylie mentioned were only slight favorites and could be over taken at any time, and they were. Bush over took Leinart and Troy Smith overtook Brady Quinn.

Luck is different in that he is clearly above the field... does not mean he can't lose, but I would not compare Luck to any of those guys (going into the season) because as I said, unlike those guys, Luck is clearly above the field.

nrk
06-30-2011, 06:47 PM
I apologize for speaking 8th grade English when I should be speaking 2nd grade English.

Those favorites going into the season were not clear cut leaders like Luck is.

Those guys that Jrdrylie mentioned were only slight favorites and could be over taken at any time, and they were. Bush over took Leinart and Troy Smith overtook Brady Quinn.

Luck is different in that he is clearly above the field... does not mean he can't lose, but I would not compare Luck to any of those guys (going into the season) because as I said, unlike those guys, Luck is clearly above the field.

That's cool and all but as Jdrylie mentioned, heisman favorites don't matter. A favorite is a favorite going into the season, it doesn't matter by how much.

I always thought the end result is what mattered though, and the favorites mentioned lost, you showed me good though.

FUNBUNCHER
06-30-2011, 07:11 PM
I'll concede that NO ONE was a bigger Heisman favorite two years in a row than Peyton Manning was at Tennessee, 1996-1997, and he couldn't pull it off.

EricCartmann
06-30-2011, 07:27 PM
I'll concede that NO ONE was a bigger Heisman favorite two years in a row than Peyton Manning was at Tennessee, 1996-1997, and he couldn't pull it off.

Actually, I too will concede now that I think about it some more. Both Leinart and Quinn were pretty big favorites too and they did not pull it off either.

EricCartmann
06-30-2011, 07:29 PM
That's cool and all but as Jdrylie mentioned, heisman favorites don't matter. A favorite is a favorite going into the season, it doesn't matter by how much.

I always thought the end result is what mattered though, and the favorites mentioned lost, you showed me good though.

+1 too that. Winning is the only thing that matters. I feel so confident that Luck will when I am goingvto place a wager of $50 at 2.5-1 odds on Luck.

nrk
06-30-2011, 07:35 PM
Actually, I too will concede now that I think about it some more. Both Leinart and Quinn were pretty big favorites too and they did not pull it off either.

Winning two heisman is almost impossible. Leinart may have been a big favorite, but in reality he had a slim chance.

CashmoneyDrew
06-30-2011, 09:33 PM
I'll concede that NO ONE was a bigger Heisman favorite two years in a row than Peyton Manning was at Tennessee, 1996-1997, and he couldn't pull it off.

Please don't get me started on this.

jrdrylie
07-02-2011, 04:06 PM
+1 too that. Winning is the only thing that matters. I feel so confident that Luck will when I am goingvto place a wager of $50 at 2.5-1 odds on Luck.

I don't really place bets, but if I did, I would place some on Landry Jones (7-1). Greg Reid of FSU is 75-1 to win it. I really doubt he does, but it might be worth a $10 bet.