Cargo Shorts

[TimD]

So my best friend (from Jersey, goes to BU) is living in North Carolina this summer for an internship. Hubbercraft's style has always been band tees, jeans, and cargo shorts, with the occasional polo when necessary. The kid rocks a grizzly beard, and is probably the best person to party with I know.

Anyway he wrote this "letter to the editor" concerning cargo short wearers in the South. He said he wrote it sarcastically, and then it got put up on some frat douche website. Hes getting ripped apart in the comment section and has already received some hilarious facebook messages.

My question to you fine gentlemen is are cargo shorts out of style?

http://totalfratmove.com/528569

[TimD]

one of the fb convos hes had.


c.j. aikman: You cargo short wearing geed. I would haze you untill you can't breath anymore.

me: did they ever teach you what sarcasm is on the farm? you either can't take or can't understand a joke. go play with your cattle.

cj: Sorry geed, It's a ranch,It's way nicer than your little Cape Cod liberal ****, but since you're the yankee geed that you are, you wouldn't now what a ranch is. The South would haze you hard, but you're probably in one of those non-hazing fraternities. Plus Boston blows dick. Go Rangers! And The South Will Rise Again.Go die geed.

me: you may be illiterate.

cj: Hahah i may be illiterate but, at least I'm not a cargo short wearring geed.

me: wow. several people have messaged me to give me **** but out of all them you are by far the dumbest. congratulations. i'm sure losing your virginity to a steer was magical. perhaps under the moonlight after mom and dad went to sleep? i bet a nostalgic tear is rolling down your fat cheek just thinking about it

cj: Hah, Pretty funny, so why don't you come down to Texas, so I can show you how a true fraternity man conducts himself, or you can stay in Boston and stay the cargo short wearing gdi that you are.

me: you're right. you've convinced me. i repent. with hard work and a little bit of luck maybe i can be just like you. if i have any questions along the way i'll surely bring them to you

*cj aikman sent you a friend request

the ironic thing is he was born and raised in Houston before he moved to switzerland then jersey haha

[diabsoule]

As a person born and raised in the South (Louisiana), I can only hang my head in shame at the responses this Southerner had. "The South will rise again"? All I could do was shake my head at that comment. That is lackadaisical, redneck propaganda if I've ever heard (and trust me, I've heard plenty).

I would like to know what a "geed" is. Having lived 28 years on Earth and pledged to a fraternity, I have never once come across such terminology. I was hazed relentlessly and never once, nor have I ever, held it as a badge of honor that I was "honored" in such tradition. It's archaic and a way for insecure males to emasculate themselves upon other insecure males. It's one of the lessons I learned while pledging.

I don't understand this immense amount of "Southern" pride that this person speaks of. In Louisiana we have no such thing and I might go so far as to say that the entire South lacks individualism outside of accent, food, and manners. We say "ma'am and sir", talk somewhat funny to those not uses to it, and use different seasonings (depending on the region/state), but in no way, shape, or form are mature, modern, sophisticated Southerners still using the noun/adjective "yankee" in a derogatory sense.

Who cares which region you dwell or were born in. We're all, for the most part, typical in our senses. What I do take offense in is the lack of capitalization when it comes to proper nouns. That's truly irksome. However, the ignorance of the Southerners statements far supersedes his properly grammatical sentences.

As a matter of fact, I wear cargo shorts. Several of my friends wear cargo shorts. Several of my friends also wear jean shorts (not the cut-off variety). It's the style. You have to be comfortable and light-weight down here. Who cares what shorts you wear? Girls wear shorts so short that the pockets are exposes and I don't see anybody calling them out on their fashion faux-pas.

[TACKLE]

there is nothing objectionable about cargo shorts. shame on anyone who says otherwise.


but jean shorts.....well that's another story.

[TimD]

i just learned that a Geed stands for God Damn Independent (gdi) referring to someone not in a fraternity. hm interesting.

[niel89]

If I had a pair of cargo shorts I would wear them. I don't know what is in fashion. I wear what I do.

Also what's so bad about jean shorts?

I think that most frat people just act like douches.

[Caddy]

Jorts are horrible and cargo shorts aren't much better.

[CJSchneider]

Sorry I didn't see this earlier. As a former Gamma Delta Iota, I could have helped to clarify.
First, There is nothing wrong with cargo shorts unless they are the excessively long ones. Then you are treading dangerous ground.
Secondly, I didn't detect sarcasm in the article, but perceived more of a rant.

[vidae]

I like cargo shorts. :(

[Don Vito]

Hahahahaha

[SuperMcgee]

I have no idea what I just read for the most part. But I am supremely annoyed.

[TitanHope]

I don't usually wear shorts, but when I do, they have pockets everywhere.

Also, aaaaaaaanybody know what the hell a "geed" is?

[Hawk]

I'm kinda bothered too. Cargo shorts are out of style unless you're in high school. If you're an adult, dress like an adult.

Nobody has gotten a hand job in cargo shorts since 'nam!

[Hawk]

"geed" is a really dumb way to say GDI. And GDI is a way to refer to some one not in a fraternity. It stands for God Damn Independent. People say it at my school but I don't think its really that insulting to people who aren't greek. I have several friends who aren't in a fraternity and they call themselves GDI's

[njx9]

what the hell shorts do you people wear? i thought shorts were divided into cargo shorts, and those ridiculous basketball style shorts that might as well be loose-fitting capris.

[nepg]

Eh...I wear them. Depends on the situation if you're talking style.

[Hawk]

what the hell shorts do you people wear? i thought shorts were divided into cargo shorts, and those ridiculous basketball style shorts that might as well be loose-fitting capris.

Khaki shorts maybe?

[njx9]

http://doc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pDOCK1-9570744v291a.jpg

i think the only people i've ever seen wear these were the trust fund kids in dc. huh. TIL.

[Jamaal-Football]

khaki shorts and boat shoes if you're a trust fund baby. or in a frat. usually both.

[descendency]

I wear jeans and only jeans. Khaki's when I have to be somewhere "formal".

I think I own 1 pair of cargo shorts.

Also, just an aside, **** frat boys. 90% are idiots and the other 10% are constantly drunk because they have to deal with the idiots.

[Hawk]

I wear jeans and only jeans. Khaki's when I have to be somewhere "formal".

I think I own 1 pair of cargo shorts.

Also, just an aside, **** frat boys. 90% are idiots and the other 10% are constantly drunk because they have to deal with the idiots.

That's a pretty stereotypical observation.

[yo123]

Not all stereotypes are false.

[Brodeur]

Jorts should be illegal unless you're John Cena, but Cargo shorts are perfectly acceptable.

[Rosebud]

http://doc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pDOCK1-9570744v291a.jpg

i think the only people i've ever seen wear these were the trust fund kids in dc. huh. TIL.

Sometimes...you say these things njx...*tears start to swell alongside the music*...they just hurt so bad...*music crashes down into silence*...

Khaki shorts are stupidly comfortable. It's part of why I love Nordstrom Rack, get ridiculous comfort pretty ******* cheap for how comfortable and long lasting some of the **** is.

[nepg]

Jorts should be illegal unless you're John Cena, but Cargo shorts are perfectly acceptable.
John Cena should be illegal.

[sbh15]

yea i go to school in NC and lived there the past 5 years or so... cargo shorts are just not allowed for whatever reason. i think they look kind of goofy, but the only thing i find unacceptable is jorts or jargo shorts. but honestly this state is so packed with fraggots who take their frat life way too seriously

[Hurricanes25]

I don't wear them but I don't see anything wrong with them. I pretty much only wear basketball shorts.

[ElectricEye]

So what's wrong with cargo shorts in the South? Am I missing some crucial thing here as to why it's such a problem?

[Hawk]

Not all stereotypes are false.

You're not completely wrong. I know a lot of guys in fraternities that are like that. But they're the minority. I only say this because I was in a fraternity and I know how it is.

And no I'm not a trust fund kid. My parents didn't go to college and they have blue collar jobs.

[CJSchneider]

I think the problem was the length of the shorts, not the style. Those shorts that are too long to be shorts, but too short to be pants deserve every bit of harassment the wearer receives.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Cargo shorts are fine. But basketball shorts are where the magic lies.

[Nalej]

I wear cargo shorts and bball shorts. Never worn jorts, I never thought they looked good on me.
And I think khaki shorts look stupid as hell so I avoid those as well.
Regardless of what kind of shorts I'm wearing though, my only requirement for them is that they cover up my knees.
I feel completely uncomfortable if they're any higher than my knees for whatever reason.

[Cigaro]

I find it ironic that despite all the money frats have, they generally insist on drinking cheap piss.

[Nalej]

I find it ironic that despite all the money frats have, they generally insist on drinking cheap piss.

I prob would have joined a frat if I had gone to college right after high school
I'm in college now after 8 yrs in the military... I'm too old for that **** now

[CJSchneider]

I feel completely uncomfortable if they're any higher than my knees for whatever reason.

I'm constantly concerned that I will sit down and a "trouser trout" will peak his head out along the side of my leg.

[prock]

I wear cargo shorts. And I have gotten laid in cargo shorts. And I'm in a fraternity (not the typical fraternity). I have never met a single person in my life who are actually that douchey and into their frat. There are some frat douches around, but I have never knew people were actually as ******** as the people who commented on that article. All of those comments were filled with poor punctuation, grammar, and sentence structure. Those people ought not be allowed to reproduce.

[ElectricEye]

So does anyone actually know about the cargo shorts dynamic of this? I mean...why are they making such a huge deal out of it? Forgive my ignorance, but why?

[prock]

I don't get it either. And I don't get what they say about girls hating cargo shorts.

[yo123]

I don't know, with all the stupid affliction type ******** out there I think cargo shorts are the least of our worries.

[ElectricEye]

I suppose we better watch out though, or these guys are totally going to "haze us" over the internet for epic wins for the lulz XD!!

[Caddy]

I don't know, with all the stupid affliction type ******** out there I think cargo shorts are the least of our worries.


Valid point. Those garbage affliction/tapout shirts have finally made their way to Australia. THANKS A LOT AMERICA YOU JERKS!

[CashmoneyDrew]

The fratsters don't like cargo shorts because they think everyone should wear the short-short polo khaki shorts with only two pockets. They should be worn with long-sleeve, neon colored polo shirts and big cheap looking plastic sunglasses. Everyone should also have the bowl/swoop haircut and drive plain white SUVs and trucks and listen to nothing but country music. Then you should always roofie girls at the mixers. They dig that.

Edit: Also, don't forget your slip on loafers.

[SuperMcgee]

This thread sounds like a bunch of geeds with no clue how to present themselves. Luckily you have a fratstar like me to show you the way.

[prock]

Ah, got it. I am so glad that private college Minnesotans don't act like this.

[ElectricEye]

The fratsters don't like cargo shorts because they think everyone should wear the short-short polo khaki shorts with only two pockets. They should be worn with long-sleeve, neon colored polo shirts and big cheap looking plastic sunglasses. Everyone should also have the bowl/swoop haircut and drive plain white SUVs and trucks and listen to nothing but country music. Then you should always roofie girls at the mixers. They dig that.

Edit: Also, don't forget your slip on loafers.

Gotcha. So basically they're like the popular girls in middle school, setting a dress code for what's acceptable in order to be cool.

Still doesn't make any sense. You would think they would appreciate the extra pockets for roofie concealment purposes.

[YAYareaRB]

Cargos are so convenient. Thats why I wear them.

[YAYareaRB]

We (the football team) bump heads with fraternities all the time. I hate most of them

[SuperMcgee]

I've worn them, not as much anymore. They're really only convenient if I'm being extra careful with my phone or something on the water or at a concert. They're not a preference, but literally any amount of outrage over them is laughable.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

This thread sounds like a bunch of geeds with no clue how to present themselves. Luckily you have a fratstar like me to show you the way.

I've worn them, not as much anymore. They're really only convenient if I'm being extra careful with my phone or something on the water or at a concert. They're not a preference, but literally any amount of outrage over them is laughable.


Looks like they got to you man. ******* geed.

[SuperMcgee]

I'm so ashamed. Might as well embrace my newfound celibacy.

[Complex]

Do people in the south like or hate plaid shorts?

[Cigaro]

Do people in the south like or hate plaid shorts?

They're semi-popular.

[YAYareaRB]

These are pretty popular in the south

http://marcustroy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/polo-ralph-lauren-holden-boots-both.jpg

[7-11]

So weird that i haven't worn cargo shorts since i was about 8 and would never even consider it. I wear shorts nearly all the time (except for about 3 or 4 months through winter) basically because i'm either in the water or very close to it

I wear boardshorts such as these

http://www.surfstitch.com/product_images/NSB09-02WHI-CRITICALSLIDESOCIETY-1600.JPG

Jean shorts such as these

http://www.surfstitch.com/product_images/9102718TGRY-BILLABONG-1.JPG

And for people my age they definitely do not have the same negative connotations that they seem to have in the US.

And i dunno, walk shorts? such as these

http://www.surfstitch.com/product_images/KA31127BLU-KREW-1.JPG

I wouldn't even consider wearing half the things you guys are talking about, and i'm sure half of you wouldn't consider this stuff.

[CJSchneider]

In that case, remind me to never take fashion tips from an Aussie or Kiwi ever again. ;)

[njx9]

These are pretty popular in the south

http://marcustroy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/polo-ralph-lauren-holden-boots-both.jpg

i can imagine why... all of that hiking, and general outdoors stuff that goes on.

[Cigaro]

These are pretty popular in the south

http://marcustroy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/polo-ralph-lauren-holden-boots-both.jpg

Not in the area I live. I have seen them before, but I only know like four or five people total who own them.

[prock]

You're right 7-11, I would never ever consider wearing any of those shorts lol. Gimme cargo shorts all day.

[Hawk]

This thread. NF

[YAYareaRB]

i can imagine why... all of that hiking, and general outdoors stuff that goes on.

These are, in fact, worn to school and to parties. In shorts, jeans, sweats,etc. Their fashionably accepted. I personally hate them

[bantx]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm8knyl1qI1qgvdqe.gif

I own 2 pairs and luvem

[slightlyaraiderfan]

Nothing is wrong with cargo shorts, but wearing board shorts or basketball shorts out everywhere looks lazy (just like girls who wear pajamas or sweat pants, looks gross) and silly.

Basketball shorts are for basketball or other physical activities.

Board shorts are for swimming.

[Hawk]

Nothing is wrong with cargo shorts, but wearing board shorts or basketball shorts out everywhere looks lazy (just like girls who wear pajamas or sweat pants, looks gross) and silly.

Basketball shorts are for basketball or other physical activities.

Board shorts are for swimming.

And what are cargo shorts for? Who needs that many pockets? Its completely unnecessary.

Its like carpenter jeans, that have the loop to hold a hammer. Who is going to carry around a hammer on their jeans? The Trinity Killer?

[Revis Island]

I support cargo shorts.

[ElectricEye]

And what are cargo shorts for? Who needs that many pockets? Its completely unnecessary.

Its like carpenter jeans, that have the loop to hold a hammer. Who is going to carry around a hammer on their jeans? The Trinity Killer?

Official things I do with my Cargo Shorts Power Rankings(week one edition);

1. Make people from frats buttmad without realizing it.

2. Have an extra pocket for my $350 phone that I don't want getting scratched.
3. Pocket for car keys, which often get jabbed into leg when combined with wallet pocket.
4. Walk around in comfort.
5. Generally not give a ****. They're shorts. I probably looked at them for 20 second before buying them.










9001: Keep a notepad to write down words of wisdom from frat stars.


Comfort was a big mover this week.

[StickSkills]

i just learned that a Geed stands for God Damn Independent (gdi) referring to someone not in a fraternity. hm interesting.

My roommate would call me that every now and then, I always laughed at him.

Also, he was in decent shape when he first got to PSU, now at the end of his freshman year, he looks like a chicken nugget.

[prock]

I'm in a fraternity currently, but most of my best friends aren't. I can't even rationalize why anyone would think that not being in a fraternity sucks, or why calling someone a geed or calling yourself a fratstar is acceptable. I would probably immediately kick someone in the balls if they called themselves a fratstar.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Another reason I love cargo shorts...

They're great for sneaking in food and drink to the movie theater.

[TitanHope]

They actually are great for hiking. My buddies usually wear basketball shorts or something, but because of that they have to carry small backpacks. I've got pockets for my phone, camera, 20oz bottle, snack, and wallet and/or car keys if I forgot to leave them in the car/drove.

[andyjo672]

Why not just wear flat front shorts. They come in every style, fabric, color, length, and you don't look like a homeless person in them. Trust me, a girl would rather date a guy that gets his clothes from J Crew than some guy that either still wears cargo shorts (and is not 15) or some guy who wears some trendy **** with a dragon on it.

[yo123]

Something just really bugs me about other guys telling me how to dress. **** off.

[njx9]

Why not just wear flat front shorts. They come in every style, fabric, color, length, and you don't look like a homeless person in them. Trust me, a girl would rather date a guy that gets his clothes from J Crew than some guy that either still wears cargo shorts (and is not 15) or some guy who wears some trendy **** with a dragon on it.

i don't trust you and homeless people in this part of the world don't wear cargo shorts, generally. i don't know where that leaves us.

[ElectricEye]

Something just really bugs me about other guys telling me how to dress. **** off.

I think this is the overall thing we can learn from that. Leave that **** to women.

[CashmoneyDrew]

What the **** are flat front shorts and why do they sound like a good way to show some male camel toe?

[Cigaro]

What the **** are flat front shorts and why do they sound like a good way to show some male camel toe?

http://www.styleceo.com/images/stores/46/n/nautica-twill-flat-front-shorts-2119595

[CashmoneyDrew]

http://www.styleceo.com/images/stores/46/n/nautica-twill-flat-front-shorts-2119595

Hmmm... I'd rather not look like a country club attending twat.

[fenikz]

Another reason I love cargo shorts...

They're great for sneaking in food and drink to the movie theater.

wha? in arizona you can just bring **** in, no one cares unless its open

[CashmoneyDrew]

Big no no here. They'll ask you to throw your stuff away here if they see it. Concessions is where they make all their money.

[niel89]

You cant just bring any food you want into a movie theater! You gotta smuggle food in like a good drug mule. Theaters make too much money on food to let us bring in things.

[prock]

Why not just wear flat front shorts. They come in every style, fabric, color, length, and you don't look like a homeless person in them. Trust me, a girl would rather date a guy that gets his clothes from J Crew than some guy that either still wears cargo shorts (and is not 15) or some guy who wears some trendy **** with a dragon on it.

Personally, if a girl doesn't want to date me because I wear cargo shorts, she is a shallow breezy, but if that's the kind of girls you like, power to you.

[Jamaal-Football]

They actually are great for hiking. My buddies usually wear basketball shorts or something, but because of that they have to carry small backpacks. I've got pockets for my phone, camera, 20oz bottle, snack, and wallet and/or car keys if I forgot to leave them in the car/drove.

Doesn't that **** get bulky? I hate having stuff in my pockets, i couldn't possibly imagine carrying around ******* food and beverages in my shorts.

[TitanHope]

Doesn't that **** get bulky? I hate having stuff in my pockets, i couldn't possibly imagine carrying around ******* food and beverages in my shorts.

It can, but I use my arms a lot when climbing. I'd rather have a little bulk in my pants (yeeeeeaaahhhhh) than something on my back that probably moves around and gets annoying as I climb.

[CJSchneider]

You cant just bring any food you want into a movie theater! You gotta smuggle food in like a good drug mule. Theaters make too much money on food to let us bring in things.

So are you saying you smuggle food in by wrapping it in a condom then concealing it in your ass?

[CJSchneider]

It can, but I use my arms a lot when climbing. I'd rather have a little bulk in my pants (yeeeeeaaahhhhh) than something on my back that probably moves around and gets annoying as I climb.

I wish you had a little more bulk in your pants too.

[Rosebud]

Doesn't that **** get bulky? I hate having stuff in my pockets, i couldn't possibly imagine carrying around ******* food and beverages in my shorts.

When hiking I love to load up the lower pockets, leave just like my cigarettes and lighter in my upper pockets. The lower pockets don't really impede my mobility much at all and because I sweet like a teenage drug mule in a TSA check point, I hate wearing backpacks. I don't carry food around but cigs, keys, water bottle, with a pocket for my socks or shirt if they get wet. Another pocket for other smokeables and you're set for a really nice half day hike.

[njx9]

gotta get a better backpack. i sweat like crazy, but ever since i got my expedition pack, it's not an issue. then again, who carries *anything* for a half day hike (aside from like, wallet, smokes, whatever)?

[Matthew Jones]

Cargo shorts are a pretty grave fashion sin to be honest, but I don't understand why other people would care so much.

[niel89]

So are you saying you smuggle food in by wrapping it in a condom then concealing it in your ass?

When popcorn is $8, I'm getting my burritos in there somehow. The tinfoil should keep it clean.

[CJSchneider]

Making that popcorn with extra butter should help things.

[Hawk]

Why not just wear flat front shorts. They come in every style, fabric, color, length, and you don't look like a homeless person in them. Trust me, a girl would rather date a guy that gets his clothes from J Crew than some guy that either still wears cargo shorts (and is not 15) or some guy who wears some trendy **** with a dragon on it.

Couldn't have said it any better.

[Rosebud]

gotta get a better backpack. i sweat like crazy, but ever since i got my expedition pack, it's not an issue. then again, who carries *anything* for a half day hike (aside from like, wallet, smokes, whatever)?

Stoners who don't have room in their pockets...

If we're going on a longer hike I'm taking my back pack, although it is nice to walk around once you've set up camp with your **** on you.

[prock]

Stoners who don't have room in their pockets...



I was going to say this exact thing.

[prock]

So while having a million pockets may or may not be practical, cargo shorts look fine as well. I still refuse to see what is so ugly about them. If you are a lower or middle class guy, I dunno if you would feel comfortable wearing flat fronts. I personally don't like those because I am not a Country Club member. Flat fronts are definitely an upper class pair of shorts, and most people who wear them are spoon-fed rich white kids.

[Cigaro]

So while having a million pockets may or may not be practical, cargo shorts look fine as well. I still refuse to see what is so ugly about them. If you are a lower or middle class guy, I dunno if you would feel comfortable wearing flat fronts. I personally don't like those because I am not a Country Club member. Flat fronts are definitely an upper class pair of shorts, and most people who wear them are spoon-fed rich white kids.

Not really. They're just shorts with the appropriate amount of pockets for everyday life.

[Malaka]

Lol this is ridiculous. Who really cares about cargo shorts? You either wear them or you don't. Who the **** is anyone to call them a fashion nightmare.

This is a ******* fashion police failure.

I have cargo shorts... I have khakis... I have straight-front shorts. I wear whichever whenever I feel like. I won't wear jorts though I think those things are hideous (but you see just an opinion, I could not give a damn if my friend wears them).

I really want to know what girl will not go out with you because you wear cargo shorts. They do not exist lol. If a guy is good-looking he can wear ripped sweat and look like a bum, but women would still be attracted to him though probably at a lesser extent than if he was well-kept.

Source: This is coming from a guy who has evolved from a guido, and instead has joined the ranks of the casual Ralp Lauren style of dress.

[TitanHope]

gotta get a better backpack. i sweat like crazy, but ever since i got my expedition pack, it's not an issue. then again, who carries *anything* for a half day hike (aside from like, wallet, smokes, whatever)?

What kind of expedition backpack do you have? I'm gonna have to invest in one soon and I've been looking around.

[njx9]

What kind of expedition backpack do you have? I'm gonna have to invest in one soon and I've been looking around.

just an rei brand pinnacle (http://www.rei.com/product/778437/rei-pinnacle-40-pack). the amount of **** i had to lug up kilimanjaro meant that i couldn't really use one of the vented day pack style packs, but this fit my back well enough to keep some solid airflow once we were out of the rainforest.

i liked ones similar to this (http://www.rei.com/product/778463/rei-lookout-40-pack) for a standard camping trip (hike in/out), since i could easily fit a summer bag into it, with whatever else i needed, but the bigger style (like this (http://www.rei.com/product/795513/rei-mars-80-pack)) is what i need for winter/cold weather, since the 0-degree bag is *really* bulky (comparatively).

really though, you need to go and get fitted at a store. there's so much variation. i had to try on like, 15 before i found one that fit right on my hips and wouldn't have annihilated my shoulders by the second day.

[SativaDominant]

What kind of expedition backpack do you have? I'm gonna have to invest in one soon and I've been looking around.

The Hipster backpack.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7624/hipster6.jpg

[ElectricEye]

Not really. They're just shorts with the appropriate amount of pockets for everyday life.

Pockets are offensive?

[Matthew Jones]

So while having a million pockets may or may not be practical, cargo shorts look fine as well. I still refuse to see what is so ugly about them. If you are a lower or middle class guy, I dunno if you would feel comfortable wearing flat fronts. I personally don't like those because I am not a Country Club member. Flat fronts are definitely an upper class pair of shorts, and most people who wear them are spoon-fed rich white kids.

I think you just answered your own question - they're ugly because they make you look like you belong to the lower class. Think about it - if you're a woman, are you going to be attracted to someone who looks wealthy and successful, or someone who wears the same clothes they did when they were 16?

[CJSchneider]

I think you just answered your own question - they're ugly because they make you look like you belong to the lower class. Think about it - if you're a woman, are you going to be attracted to someone who looks wealthy and successful, or someone who wears the same clothes they did when they were 16?

I think the entire conversation assumes that we are talking about wearing shorts when shorts are socially acceptable.

[Cigaro]

Pockets are offensive?

No, I never said or implied that. I have cargo shorts. I was simply saying that flat front shorts are shorts with the as many pockets as the majority of people in everyday life actually use, which is why that's what I generally wear. I don't need the extra pockets, so I don't buy shorts with them. Although yes the upper class wears them, I don't see why they should be considered 'upper class'.

[RaiderNation]

A lot of people still wear cargo shorts here in California. We basically have to because of the hot weather but I don't think they are *** at all.

[njx9]

The Hipster backpack.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7624/hipster6.jpg

**** that. i'm so ironic, i use a duct-taped denim messenger bag. and i show up to major client sites with it (i think i actually offended the san jose city council when i didn't stop pulling red bulls out of it for the duration of an 8 hour meeting. also because my hair was like, 12 inches long. they were probably thinking i should gtfb to half moon).

[Rosebud]

I think the entire conversation assumes that we are talking about wearing shorts when shorts are socially acceptable.

Seriously. I know it gets hot but if you've gotta be someplace slightly dressed up then you shouldn't be wearing shorts and you should break out some nice summer pants. Personally I love wearing pants in the summer because I've got a few really good pairs of light and breezy summer slacks.

[Rosebud]

No, I never said or implied that. I have cargo shorts. I was simply saying that flat front shorts are shorts with the as many pockets as the majority of people in everyday life actually use, which is why that's what I generally wear. I don't need the extra pockets, so I don't buy shorts with them. Although yes the upper class wears them, I don't see why they should be considered 'upper class'.

Really? How much stuff do you keep in your pockets? I've usually got my phone, cigs, lighter, key, wallet and a thing of nasal spray, I have sinus issues at the very least. Sometimes you do some other things, then there's odds n ends like hair ties, a water bottle, screw driver, etc. The basic 4 pockets are kinda not ideal for me as I have stuff in all but one rear pocket, I hate putting anything in those pockets other than my wallet. I do where a lot of slacks and don't wear cargo pants anymore unless I'm going to be working outside, but it's not because they have the ideal set of pockets.

[TitanHope]

just an rei brand pinnacle (http://www.rei.com/product/778437/rei-pinnacle-40-pack). the amount of **** i had to lug up kilimanjaro meant that i couldn't really use one of the vented day pack style packs, but this fit my back well enough to keep some solid airflow once we were out of the rainforest.

i liked ones similar to this (http://www.rei.com/product/778463/rei-lookout-40-pack) for a standard camping trip (hike in/out), since i could easily fit a summer bag into it, with whatever else i needed, but the bigger style (like this (http://www.rei.com/product/795513/rei-mars-80-pack)) is what i need for winter/cold weather, since the 0-degree bag is *really* bulky (comparatively).

really though, you need to go and get fitted at a store. there's so much variation. i had to try on like, 15 before i found one that fit right on my hips and wouldn't have annihilated my shoulders by the second day.

$75? Hot damn.

Yeah, I've tried on about a half dozen. One fit incredibly well, but cost upwards of $200+, so that was out of the question. We're planning a hiking/camping/fishing trip to one of the lake areas of SW Virginia. Definitely not Kilimanjaro, but the more we can carry, the better. You really went up Mt. Kilimanjaro?

[njx9]

$75? Hot damn.

Yeah, I've tried on about a half dozen. One fit incredibly well, but cost upwards of $200+, so that was out of the question. We're planning a hiking/camping/fishing trip to one of the lake areas of SW Virginia. Definitely not Kilimanjaro, but the more we can carry, the better. You really went up Mt. Kilimanjaro?

yeah, a few years ago on a whim. i looked at the expensive ones, but ultimately, for what i use it for, i didn't need all of the 'expensive' features. bag's been really durable so far. the 40 cl's or whatever it can hold should be plenty for one person's worth of stuff for a trip like that, though you may have to strap the tent and sleeping bag to the outside, depending on how much 'junk' (e.g. other food, bulky cooking gear, etc) you want to carry in.

[Cigaro]

Really? How much stuff do you keep in your pockets? I've usually got my phone, cigs, lighter, key, wallet and a thing of nasal spray, I have sinus issues at the very least. Sometimes you do some other things, then there's odds n ends like hair ties, a water bottle, screw driver, etc. The basic 4 pockets are kinda not ideal for me as I have stuff in all but one rear pocket, I hate putting anything in those pockets other than my wallet. I do where a lot of slacks and don't wear cargo pants anymore unless I'm going to be working outside, but it's not because they have the ideal set of pockets.

Phone, keys, chapstick & wallet. So it has all the pockets I need.

[TitanHope]

Fun fact: I bought njx's backpack and some board shorts this past week.

Fun fact ALSO: I'm wearing them both right now...and nothing else, ladiessss.

[CJSchneider]

Fun Fact: I just ate and probably didn't need that mental image right now.

[TitanHope]

I'll be honest. I'm not even sure they're board shorts. They could just be very ugly regular shorts.

[njx9]

Are they even shorts?

[Forenci]

So, I'm moving south in a month, am I allowed to wear cargo shorts?

If it were up to me I'd just wear basketball shorts/gym shorts all day because of absurdly comfortable they are, but I suppose people frown upon that sort of thing. Someone compared it to women wearing sweatpants but I whole heatedly disagree. They are far more awesome looking.

Damn it, I was going to purchase some new shorts for the move south but now I'm afraid to be murdered for wearing cargo shorts. I don't see how people can dislike them. Sure they have a lot of pockets, but they look classy. Flat shorts look ridiculously odd and usually come up above the knees which also feels wrong.

[SuperMcgee]

I don't take issue with either, but flat shorts do look better to me. Especially if the cargo shorts are the kind where the pockets really stick out.

[fenikz]

every frat boy on the west coast wheres plaid cargo shorts
http://www.styleceo.com/images/stores/27/s/southpole-men-plaid-cargo--shorts-6055371

[slightlyaraiderfan]

that is like so 2 years ago.

[M.O.T.H.]

I see tons of those down here in Florida. But I've also seen a **** ton of basketball shorts and cargo shorts. It's hot as balls...who cares what you're wearing? I cant wear jeans here, though. I'm not big on jeans to begin with, but if it's 95, I'm wearing ******* shorts all the time.

[TitanHope]

Are they even shorts?

Oddly enough, I was shopping for trunks when I found them, and was like, "**** it, these'll do!"

So they're shorts that I'm using as trunks that I originally thought were board shorts!

[Forenci]

You guys are breaking my heart!

[Hawk]

You guys are breaking my heart!

Don't wear cargo shorts.

[Revis Island]

Don't wear cargo shorts.

Haters gonna hate.