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shylo3716
07-17-2011, 09:31 PM
List your Top 5 draftable guys so we can be on the lookout this year.

QB

Andrew Luck Stanford
Matt Barkely USC
Landry Jones Oklahoma
Nick Foles Arizona
E.J. Manuel FSURB

Trent Richardson Alabama
Knile Davis Arkansas
LaMichael James Oregon
Lamar Miller Miami (FL)
Andre Ellington Clemson
FB

Chad Deihl ClemsonWR

Alshon Jeffery South Carolina
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State
Michael Floyd Notre Dame
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma
DeVier Posey Ohio StateTE

Orson Charles Georgia
Coby Fleener Stanford
Michael Egnew Missouri
Dwayne Allen ClemsonOT

Matt Kalil USC
D.J. Fluker Alabama
Jonathan Martin Stanford
Riley Reiff Iowa
Bobby Massie Ole MissOG

David DeCastro Stanford
Brandon Washington Miami (FL)
Cordy Glenn Georgia
Lucas Nix Pittsburgh
Kelechi Osemele Iowa StateC

Ben Jones Georgia
Michael Brewster Ohio StateDE

Quenton Coples UNC
Jared Crick Nebraska
Donte Paige-Moss UNC
Billy Winn Boise State
Vinny Curry MarshallDT

Brandon Thompson Clemson
Jerel Worthy Michigan State
Marcus Fortson Miami (FL)ILB

Manti Te'o Notre Dame
Luke Kuechly Boston College
Dont'a Hightower Alabama
Vontez Burfict Arizona StateOLB

Zach Brown UNC
Bruce Irving WVU
Travis Lewis Oklahoma
Sean Spence Miami (FL)
Kenny Tate MarylandCB

Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama
Jayron Hosley Virginia Tech
Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska
Stephon Gilmore South Carolina
Cliff Harris OregonFS

Robert Lester Alabama
Janzen Jackson Tennessee
Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL)
T.J. McDonald South CaliforniaSS

Mark Barron Alabama
Ray-Ray Armstrong Miami (FL)
Tony Dye UCLA
Nick Moody FSURS

Denard Robinson Michigan
Jeff Demps Florida
Travis Benjamin Miami (FL)
Greg Reid FSUK

Blair Walsh GeorgiaP

Drew Butler Georgia

wordofi
07-18-2011, 01:20 AM
I doubt that D.J. Fluker would come out as a redshirt sophomore.

fenikz
07-18-2011, 02:48 AM
Burfict >>>>

hockey619
07-18-2011, 06:21 AM
RS

Denard Robinson Michigan
Jeff Demps Florida
Travis Benjamin Miami (FL)
Greg Reid FSU

I like denard a lot, but what puts him over demps for returning? Demps is as fast as denard, and hes actually done returning and done it well.

princefielder28
07-18-2011, 07:55 AM
a couple if things that stood out right away...

Luck and Barkley deserve the top two spots for QBs but after that I would start to shake it up and Manuel would definitely not be a part of that (Foles is much lower in my rankings too)

No Cyrus Gray in the RB rankings was a surprise as well

K Train
07-18-2011, 08:41 AM
minnifield>>>>>>>gilmore and harris imo

id take brewster as the #1 center, and the MLBs are gonna look completely different depending on who you ask

Don Vito
07-18-2011, 09:38 AM
5. Bobby Massie Florida


You dirty ************!

phlysac
07-18-2011, 10:06 AM
My quick addition would be Jeff Fuller.

the_dark_knight
07-18-2011, 10:21 AM
I've got a lot of prospects to watch this year! I'm pumped about that, but not a whole lot of these names on defense are inspiring me as hopeful for getting a great defensive player in the 2nd round next year. My team isn't going to be picking in the first round next year (ATL). But if I could hand pick one of these guys it'd be Burfict.

As far as draft eligible corners I'd have to say not having Xavier Rhodes even on the list makes me question it. Greg Reid I could see leaving off, because he's a massive playmaker, and he's a guy you sort of love or hate depending on your defense, but Rhodes is a beast.

shylo3716
07-18-2011, 05:52 PM
I like denard a lot, but what puts him over demps for returning? Demps is as fast as denard, and hes actually done returning and done it well.

According to others besides myself Robinson will be more of a valuable asset then Demps on the next level......you can plug Robinson in the slot as well as the return game.....where are you going to plug Demps at on offense besides 3rd down purposes?

shylo3716
07-18-2011, 06:10 PM
minnifield>>>>>>>gilmore and harris imo

id take brewster as the #1 center, and the MLBs are gonna look completely different depending on who you ask

Feel free to make your own list

You dirty ************!

What's the problem sir? Feel free to make your own list as I stated before!

I've got a lot of prospects to watch this year! I'm pumped about that, but not a whole lot of these names on defense are inspiring me as hopeful for getting a great defensive player in the 2nd round next year. My team isn't going to be picking in the first round next year (ATL). But if I could hand pick one of these guys it'd be Burfict.

As far as draft eligible corners I'd have to say not having Xavier Rhodes even on the list makes me question it. Greg Reid I could see leaving off, because he's a massive playmaker, and he's a guy you sort of love or hate depending on your defense, but Rhodes is a beast.

I like Rhodes but who do I leave off that was already established last year? Feel free to make your list also!

JRTPlaya21
07-18-2011, 06:15 PM
Massie goes to Ole Miss...

shylo3716
07-18-2011, 09:36 PM
Massie goes to Ole Miss...

Made the correction!

ellsy82
07-18-2011, 10:55 PM
Fullback:
1. Chad Diehl, Clemson
2. Anthony Sherman, Connecticut
3. Cody Johnson, Texas
4. Devon Ramsay, North Carolina
5. Joe Halahuni, Oregon St

Free Safety:
Robert Lester Alabama
Janzen Jackson Tennessee
Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL)
T.J. McDonald South California
Rashard Hall, Clemson

Strong Safety:
Kenny Tate, Maryland
Mark Barron Alabama
Ray-Ray Armstrong Miami (FL)
Tony Dye UCLA
Markelle Martin, Ohio St

Return Specialists:
Jeff Demps Florida
Travis Benjamin Miami (FL)
Greg Reid FSU
Marquis Maze, Alabama
T.Y. Hilton, Florida International

BuddyCHRIST
07-18-2011, 11:56 PM
I think Nigel Bradham could make a case for the 5th ILB. He plays WLB for FSU and has the size/speed combo to play any of the positions. But in FSU's scheme the WLB plays more like a middle and he's been the leading tackler the past two years.

mario
07-19-2011, 09:42 AM
2. Anthony Sherman, Connecticut
He is great, but i doubt the Cardinals will let him declare for the draft again.

ellsy82
07-19-2011, 01:28 PM
He is great, but i doubt the Cardinals will let him declare for the draft again.

My bad, remove that guy, move everyone else up and put this guy as #5:

Drake Dunsmore - Northwestern.

ChiFan24
07-19-2011, 02:20 PM
My bad, remove that guy, move everyone else up and put this guy as #5:

Drake Dunsmore - Northwestern.

I think I'd categorize him as more of a tight end than a fullback.

ellsy82
07-19-2011, 03:14 PM
Yeah...HB/TE/FB. But then again, what other category would you put him in.

shylo3716
07-19-2011, 04:22 PM
Strong Safety:
Kenny Tate, Maryland

As of right now I am confused.....what will his NFL position be? Remember a guy like Thomas Davis got converted but not in college so this really puzzles me

ellsy82
07-19-2011, 04:35 PM
As of right now I am confused.....what will his NFL position be? Remember a guy like Thomas Davis got converted but not in college so ths really puzzles me

That's the trick isn't it? His ability to tackle would suggest he'd be a great OLB, but I still think his natural position is going to be strong safety in the pros.

shylo3716
07-19-2011, 06:29 PM
That's the trick isn't it? His ability to tackle would suggest he'd be a great OLB, but I still think his natural position is going to be strong safety in the pros.

You really think he should play SS in the league? I think if he excels this year on the collegiate level at OLB I think that could be an ideal fit.

ellsy82
07-19-2011, 07:14 PM
You really think he should play SS in the league? I think if he excels this year on the collegiate level at OLB I think that could be an ideal fit.

I think he could. But ultimately I think his role will differ depending on what team (and what type of defense) drafts him.

etk
07-19-2011, 07:21 PM
I like Rhodes but who do I leave off that was already established last year? Feel free to make your list also!

Kirkpatrick hasn't been established period, and Harris doesn't project as well to the pros. Rhodes is slow but other than that he's a prototypical NFL corner that actually played well last year.

I'd tweak some other things but the vast majority of your rankings are accurate imo.

shylo3716
07-19-2011, 07:33 PM
Kirkpatrick hasn't been established period, and Harris doesn't project as well to the pros. Rhodes is slow but other than that he's a prototypical NFL corner that actually played well last year.

I'd tweak some other things but the vast majority of your rankings are accurate imo.

Why thank you! Please give me your input on my rankings, I take heed to all.

Bald_81
07-20-2011, 12:21 AM
No Cyrus Gray in the RB rankings was a surprise as well

That's what stood out the most to me as well.

ellsy82
07-20-2011, 12:25 AM
That's what stood out the most to me as well.

Are we basing all these rankings on where they'll end up in the NFL?

princefielder28
07-20-2011, 02:38 PM
Are we basing all these rankings on where they'll end up in the NFL?

that's usually what you base rankings on, who is going to be best in the NFL

shylo3716
07-20-2011, 05:58 PM
Are we basing all these rankings on where they'll end up in the NFL?

that's usually what you base rankings on, who is going to be best in the NFL

I based them off of how I view them heading into the season.

princefielder28
07-20-2011, 06:01 PM
I based them off of how I view them heading into the season.

but view them in terms of pro prospects, correct?

shylo3716
07-20-2011, 06:15 PM
but view them in terms of pro prospects, correct?

Correct! This was not based on where they will end up...It;s just a preseason ranking to help make those aware of guys that "we" rank that others may have not ranked......I said in my opening statement to feel free to make a top 5 positional list.

JRTPlaya21
07-20-2011, 06:25 PM
Janoris Jenkins will prob be a top 5 corner if he doesn't end up in the supplemental draft.

ellsy82
07-20-2011, 06:43 PM
Janoris Jenkins will prob be a top 5 corner if he doesn't end up in the supplemental draft.

Isn't Jenkins joining the North Alabama Lions for the season?

http://www.roarlions.com/Lion_Sports/Football/Current_Season/2011_JenkinsSigns.htm

shylo3716
07-20-2011, 08:21 PM
Isn't Jenkins joining the North Alabama Lions for the season?

http://www.roarlions.com/Lion_Sports/Football/Current_Season/2011_JenkinsSigns.htm

You are correct!

katnip
07-25-2011, 06:35 PM
i'm a big canes fan, but.. how does ray ray compare to that big safety just drafted from WVU (who was a mid rounder i think )?

ellsy82
07-25-2011, 08:15 PM
i'm a big canes fan, but.. how does ray ray compare to that big safety just drafted from WVU (who was a mid rounder i think )?

Robert Sands is just a freak athlete. Running a sub 4.5 40 at that size? I think Armstrong is a better athlete and is better in coverage. Armstrong is just a ferocious hitter and would be an ideal 'in-the-box' guy at the pro level. The comparison to Sands is pretty close. Sands is faster, Armstrong is quicker.

etk
07-25-2011, 08:54 PM
i'm a big canes fan, but.. how does ray ray compare to that big safety just drafted from WVU (who was a mid rounder i think )?

Much bigger and better against the run. Ray Ray is basically an extra LB the way he sifts through blockers and breaks down to make tackles. As long as he's not 1on1 in the open field where he takes horrible angles (see Clemson game). I'm starting to see the appeal with Ray Ray whereas before I was just focused on the negatives.

gator3guy
07-27-2011, 01:49 AM
Edsall said part of the reason moving Tate to OLB was because that's where he see's his NFL future.

tjsunstein
08-03-2011, 08:29 PM
List is lacking Geno Smith. QB class could have a whole different landscape from now until April.

TheFinisher
08-07-2011, 08:53 AM
WR for me would look something like this:

1. Alshon Jeffery
2. Jeff Fuller
3. Justin Blackmon
4. Michael Floyd
5. Ryan Broyles

HM:
Juron Criner
Greg Childs
Chris Owusu
Kendall Wright

I might be a bit higher on Fuller than most right now.

thenewfeature06
08-07-2011, 09:40 AM
Some1 mentioned Jeff Fuller.. correct.

He is in the top 5 wr before Posey would be.

princefielder28
08-07-2011, 10:52 AM
Some1 mentioned Jeff Fuller.. correct.

He is in the top 5 wr before Posey would be.

Posey isn't a top 10 consideration for me, overrated prospect

here's my top 10

1. Alshon Jeffery : SOUTH CAROLINA*
2. Justin Blackmon : OKLAHOMA STATE*
3. Jeff Fuller : TEXAS A&M
4. Ryan Broyles : OKLAHOMA
5. Michael Floyd : NOTRE DAME
6. Ty Hilton : FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
7. Nick Toon : WISCONSIN
8. Dwight Jones : NORTH CAROLINA
9. Greg Childs : ARKANSAS
10. Jermaine Kearse : WASHINGTON

out of that list i think dwight jones has the most potential to move up

Matthew Jones
08-07-2011, 11:02 AM
Prince, are you factoring in character into these evaluations? If not, where would Floyd rank on that list?

YAYareaRB
08-07-2011, 11:18 AM
Im excited to Greg Childs back in action this season. hes got some crazy measurables.

princefielder28
08-07-2011, 11:20 AM
Prince, are you factoring in character into these evaluations? If not, where would Floyd rank on that list?

I think you have to take everything into consideration when evaluating/ranking a prospect and although Michael Floyd got caught underage drinking and drving under the influence, I don't hold that against his character because then I'd be a hypocrite since it's not like I haven't done the same and that doesn't determine the type of person I am (I wasn't caught at all though haha)...Floyd falls a spot, he might be fourth, if he didn't have the injury history; that's the concerning part for me.

JoeJoeBrown
08-07-2011, 01:42 PM
Posey isn't a top 10 consideration for me, overrated prospect


Totally agree. Unless the guy works some magic in eight games no way is he a top three round prospect.

etk
08-07-2011, 03:32 PM
Posey isn't a top 10 consideration for me, overrated prospect

here's my top 10

1. Alshon Jeffery : SOUTH CAROLINA*
2. Justin Blackmon : OKLAHOMA STATE*
3. Jeff Fuller : TEXAS A&M
4. Ryan Broyles : OKLAHOMA
5. Michael Floyd : NOTRE DAME
6. Ty Hilton : FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
7. Nick Toon : WISCONSIN
8. Dwight Jones : NORTH CAROLINA
9. Greg Childs : ARKANSAS
10. Jermaine Kearse : WASHINGTON

out of that list i think dwight jones has the most potential to move up

I asked you in the previous thread...where's Juron Criner? 6'4 220+, good speed, agility, ball skills, monstrous production. The only weakness I see in him is that he isn't physical when he runs with the ball (he doesn't break tackles).

princefielder28
08-07-2011, 03:44 PM
I asked you in the previous thread...where's Juron Criner? 6'4 220+, good speed, agility, ball skills, monstrous production. The only weakness I see in him is that he isn't physical when he runs with the ball (he doesn't break tackles).

Criner is a nice prospect, who projects as a red zone option, #3 type WR in the NFL, but doesn't stick out as a guy with a high ceiling...he appears to be soft and that's certainly a bit of a concern. The only receiver I'd potentially put him ahead of at this point is Kearse but the 'medical concerns' with him, and the unknown long term problems that might arise, raise a red flag

Ozzy
08-08-2011, 03:45 PM
Here is the top 5 at each position for the 2012 NFL draft according to have I have before the season stars.


QB
Andrew Luck Stanford RS JR
Matt Barkley USC JR
Nick Foles Arizona
Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M
Kellen Moore Boise State RS

RB
Trent Richardson Alabama JR
Knile Davis Arkansas JR
LaMichael James Oregon JR
Cyrus Gray Texas A&M
Latavius Murray UCF JR

FB
Devon Ramsey UNC
Eric Smith Auburn
Derrick Coleman UCLA
Dan Paul Boise State
Jake Johnson Virginia Tech

WR
Michael Floyd Notre Dame
Alshon Jeffery South Carolina JR
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State RS JR
Jeff Fuller Texas A&M
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma RS

TE
Dwayne Allen Clemson RS JR
Orson Charles Georgia JR
James Hanna Oklahoma
Michael Williams Alabama JR
Michael Egnew Missouri

OT
Matt Kalil USC RS JR
Riley Reiff Iowa RS JR
Jonathan Martin Stanford
Matt Reynolds BYU
Mike Adams Ohio State

OG
David DeCastro Stanford JR
Cordy Glenn Georgia
Travis Bond UNC JR
Patrick Omameh Michigan JR
Joel Foreman Michigan State


C
Peter Konz Wisconsin JR
Michael Brewster Ohio State
David Molk Michigan
William Vlachos Alabama
Thomas Byrd Boise State
T-Bob Hebert LSU



DE
Jared Crick Nebraska
Quenton Coples UNC
Brandon Jenkins Florida State JR
Devin Taylor South Carolina JR
Nick Perry USC RS JR

DT
Jerel Worthy Michigan State JR
Mike Martin Michigan
Kheeston Randall Texas
Jacobbi McDaniel Florida State JR
Alameda Ta'amu Washington

ILB
Vontaze Burfict Arizona State JR
Manti Te'o Notre Dame JR
Lavonte David Nebraska
Tank Carder TCU
Garrick Williams Texas A&M

OLB
Luke Kuechly Boston College JR
Dont'a Hightower Alabama
Bruce Irvin West Virginia
Michael Mauti Penn State JR
Travis Lewis Oklahoma

OLB
Dont'a Hightower Alabama
Bruce Irvin West Virginia
Courtney Upshaw Alabama
Nathan Williams Ohio State
Kyle Wilber Wake Forest

CB
Stephon Gilmore South Carolina JR
Greg Reid Florida State JR
Cliff Harris Oregon JR
Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska
Donnie Fletcher Boston College

SS
Nick Moody Florida State JR
George Iloka Boise State
Mark Barron Alabama
Lance Mitchell Oregon State
Ray Ray Armstrong Miami FL JR

FS
Robert Lester Alabama JR
Tramain Thomas Arkansas
TJ McDonald USC JR
Ter'Ran Benton Iowa State
Nick Sukay Penn State

Ozzy
08-08-2011, 03:55 PM
shylo3716....

List your Top 5 draftable guys so we can be on the lookout this year.

QB
Andrew Luck Stanford
Matt Barkely USC
Landry Jones Oklahoma
Nick Foles Arizona
E.J. Manuel FSU Really doubt he comes out as a junior, but who knows if he has a great year...

RB
Trent Richardson Alabama
Knile Davis Arkansas
LaMichael James Oregon
Lamar Miller Miami (FL) Not as big of a fan of him, will have to wait and see what he does, good for him Golden always has fine offensive line play and good tight end play, which will help Miller get chances to run the ball, especially since Miami has some very talented young offensive lineman.
Andre Ellington Clemson I do not see that, a good player but not sure he is elite just yet

FB
Chad Deihl Clemson

WR
Alshon Jeffery South Carolina
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State
Michael Floyd Notre Dame I have him higher but sure with his DUI issues he might drop, skill wise he might be the most complete
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma
DeVier Posey Ohio State

TE
Orson Charles Georgia
Coby Fleener Stanford I really like him as well, very good player, not sure he is above Dwayne Allen though
Michael Egnew Missouri
Dwayne Allen Clemson

OT
Matt Kalil USC
D.J. Fluker Alabama I thought he was a RS Sophomore
Jonathan Martin Stanford
Riley Reiff Iowa
Bobby Massie Ole Miss Not a huge fan of his, he has underachieved a lot

OG
David DeCastro Stanford
Brandon Washington Miami (FL) Good but weight is an issue for him, I think there might be better guards out there
Cordy Glenn Georgia
Lucas Nix Pittsburgh
Kelechi Osemele Iowa State

C
Ben Jones Georgia I need to see more of this guy, especially with all the hype he is getting.
Michael Brewster Ohio State

DE
Quenton Coples UNC
Jared Crick Nebraska
Donte Paige-Moss UNC
Billy Winn Boise State
Vinny Curry Marshall

DT
Brandon Thompson Clemson
Jerel Worthy Michigan State
Marcus Fortson Miami (FL) I do not believe he is that good of a player

ILB
Manti Te'o Notre Dame
Luke Kuechly Boston College I think he plays outside in the NFL
Dont'a Hightower Alabama Should be an OLB in the NFL in a 3/4
Vontez Burfict Arizona State Way too low I feel at this position

OLB
Zach Brown UNC I will have to see what he does without the talent around him
Bruce Irving WVU
Travis Lewis Oklahoma
Sean Spence Miami (FL) Great talent not sure he has the size though
Kenny Tate Maryland Hope he moves back to safety to be honest

CB
Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama I do not feel he is at the top just yet
Jayron Hosley Virginia Tech
Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska
Stephon Gilmore South Carolina
Cliff Harris Oregon

FS
Robert Lester Alabama Lester is the common pick, will see if he can keep up his consistency
Janzen Jackson Tennessee
Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL)
T.J. McDonald South California Love his talent but wow he is going to have to improve his tackling

SS
Mark Barron Alabama
Ray-Ray Armstrong Miami (FL)
Tony Dye UCLA
Nick Moody FSU I think his strength and athletic ability moves him way up this list, I would take him over Armstrong I feel

RS
Denard Robinson Michigan
Jeff Demps Florida
Travis Benjamin Miami (FL)
Greg Reid FSU
K
Blair Walsh Georgia
P
Drew Butler Georgia

tjsunstein
08-08-2011, 03:57 PM
Ozzy, why do you have Bruce Irvin as a 4-3 OLB? His specialty is getting to the QB. Everything screams 3-4 OLB to me.


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Ozzy
08-08-2011, 04:57 PM
Ozzy, why do you have Bruce Irvin as a 4-3 OLB? His specialty is getting to the QB. Everything screams 3-4 OLB to me.I totally agree, I have him listed as the 2nd top 3/4 OLB prospect in the upcoming draft. He could do both if he really wanted too I feel, but yes getting to the QB is what he does best. Now he just has to keep it up when everyone is ready for him this season, if he can keep up that production he should be a 1st round pick possibly.

tjsunstein
08-08-2011, 05:46 PM
Compared to Von Miller.