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Victory X
07-21-2011, 03:33 PM
Biggest game of college football to start off the year. Two top ten teams with national championship aspirations going at it. Gotta love these games.

Who you think's gonna win?

YAYareaRB
07-21-2011, 03:48 PM
im taking Oregon.

i like LSU but i dont like jordan jefferson.

could go either way tho. both teams lost a considerable amount of talent on defense so we'll see how well they reload

proshoota25
07-21-2011, 03:48 PM
its going to be one fun game to watch. oregon's high powered offense vs. lsu's stingy defense is one to watch. i think the key to the game is how well jordan jefferson and the lsu offense plays.... inconsistent the last few years, will they stay the same?

i am going to take LSU, by the slimmest of margins

shylo3716
07-21-2011, 06:34 PM
Hope Russell Shepard gets off.

JoeJoeBrown
07-21-2011, 08:42 PM
I think Oregon is a complete joke, so I'm taking LSU by 1 million.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
07-21-2011, 09:28 PM
Sec Speeeeeeedz

etk
07-21-2011, 09:57 PM
This is the year that LSU gets decent QB play. How hard can it be to get the ball to Rueben Randle, DeAngelo Peterson, Russell Shepard, Kadron Boone, etc.?

hawkeye123
07-21-2011, 10:32 PM
I think Oregon is a complete joke, so I'm taking LSU by 1 million.

How so? I think they were over hyped last year but by no means are they a joke.

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 12:13 AM
How so? I think they were over hyped last year but by no means are they a joke.

I mean they are a smurf football team that plays inferior competition most of the year.

Yes, they are quick and have some great small fast guys at the skill positions. But their lines are a joke. Both offensive and defensive. And their overall defense has been pretty weak. Until that changes, I will mock them.

They are like Leach era TTU, TCU, etc... Gimmicky to obscure their weaknesses. Not that obscuring their weaknesses is a fault, but I just think that they are grossly overrated due to the Nike affiliation.

CJSchneider
07-22-2011, 12:25 AM
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hawkeye123
07-22-2011, 12:59 AM
I mean they are a smurf football team that plays inferior competition most of the year.

Yes, they are quick and have some great small fast guys at the skill positions. But their lines are a joke. Both offensive and defensive. And their overall defense has been pretty weak. Until that changes, I will mock them.

They are like Leach era TTU, TCU, etc... Gimmicky to obscure their weaknesses. Not that obscuring their weaknesses is a fault, but I just think that they are grossly overrated due to the Nike affiliation.

You must not have not have watched Oregon at all in the past few years. Their line isn't their strength but not much of a weakness either; yes they got abused by Fairley in the NC game but what O-Line didn't get abused by him last year?

Their defense was extremely underrated last year, they were the only defense Andrew Luck didn't tear up. They lost a lot of key starters from last year though. Losing Cliff Harris for this game doesn't help either.

YAYareaRB
07-22-2011, 01:49 AM
You must not have not have watched Oregon at all in the past few years. Their line isn't their strength but not much of a weakness either; yes they got abused by Fairley in the NC game but what O-Line didn't get abused by him last year?

Their defense was extremely underrated last year, they were the only defense Andrew Luck didn't tear up. They lost a lot of key starters from last year though. Losing Cliff Harris for this game doesn't help either.

dudezzz you didnt know.. thee ohio state university plays the best football in the worldzzz

LonghornsLegend
07-22-2011, 02:24 AM
I mean they are a smurf football team that plays inferior competition most of the year.

Yes, they are quick and have some great small fast guys at the skill positions. But their lines are a joke. Both offensive and defensive. And their overall defense has been pretty weak. Until that changes, I will mock them.

They are like Leach era TTU, TCU, etc... Gimmicky to obscure their weaknesses. Not that obscuring their weaknesses is a fault, but I just think that they are grossly overrated due to the Nike affiliation.


I really don't understand any of this. And then you include TCU in this? So unless your from a big conference your not good is what I'm basically getting. Oregon, Boise St, and TCU have been 3 of the top teams in the entire nation the past few years. Hands down, no matter who they played.


You mentioned a bunch of schools that don't have anything to do with eachother. Tech and TCU couldn't be further apart in nearly everything other then the state the games are played. TCU and Oregon are completely different. What about TCU's offense is a gimmick? This I'm curious about.

YAYareaRB
07-22-2011, 02:43 AM
dude.. if it isn't buckeye football its all the same weak ****

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 08:26 AM
dude.. if it isn't buckeye football its all the same weak ****

WTF is your problem stalky McStalkerson?

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 08:30 AM
You must not have not have watched Oregon at all in the past few years. Their line isn't their strength but not much of a weakness either; yes they got abused by Fairley in the NC game but what O-Line didn't get abused by him last year?

Their defense was extremely underrated last year, they were the only defense Andrew Luck didn't tear up. They lost a lot of key starters from last year though. Losing Cliff Harris for this game doesn't help either.

They have one thing going for them. One. And that is quick execution of their plays on offense. That advantage is becoming less of one.

I did watch quite a few of their games the past few years. What I like about them is that they don't let up on the gas when they are up. They also can demoralize a team with their ability for quick strikes.

Their defense really hasn't been good at all these past few years. They are a nice team but not a great one. Just IMO.

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 08:36 AM
I really don't understand any of this. And then you include TCU in this? So unless your from a big conference your not good is what I'm basically getting. Oregon, Boise St, and TCU have been 3 of the top teams in the entire nation the past few years. Hands down, no matter who they played.


You mentioned a bunch of schools that don't have anything to do with eachother. Tech and TCU couldn't be further apart in nearly everything other then the state the games are played. TCU and Oregon are completely different. What about TCU's offense is a gimmick? This I'm curious about.

I don't buy that BSU, TCU have been 3 of the top teams the past few years. Not going down that pointless argument again. They are nice teams that would get broken down against a real schedule because they have no depth. It's not their fault that they play in rinky dink conferences. So there is no point in arguing this, as we are on opposite sides of the argument and nothing is really going to move either of us.

WRT comparing Oregon to TTU, TTU won with a gimmick. Oregon wins with a gimmick. Much like Utah won with a gimmick under Meyer.

Comparing Oregon to TCU was specifically with the smaller lines. Yeah, I know people raved about TCU's 270 pounders, but I still have no clue why Wisconsin abandoned the run against those smaller guys.

A weaker comparison, I will give you that. So weak, I will rescind it.

Oh, and again, YAY, GFY, not sure what your problem is.

YAYareaRB
07-22-2011, 12:27 PM
i just get tired of non-west coast guys hating on the west coast schools because they know absolutely nothing about them or theyre too much of a homer to realize the same level of football is played outside of their favorite school. it just so happens that its a fan THE OHIO STATEZZZZ because we all know they play the bestzzz footballzzz in the worldzzz

if i hurt your feelings by being sarcastic.. i dont really care. grow some. neg rep doesn't mean much buddy.

also cut it out with the labeling gimmick offense ****. i swear anybody that doesn't operate out of the I is labeled a gimmick offense. like everyone is supposed to stick to the same gameplan and run the same **** over and over. oh you wanna be different? gimmick!

JHL6719
07-22-2011, 02:20 PM
LSU is going to physically dominate Oregon at the line of scrimmage.

Except the Bayou Bengals can also match up speed wise with the Ducks.


Seeing as how this game is being played in Death Valley, I'll take LSU and give 10 points...

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 03:40 PM
i just get tired of non-west coast guys hating on the west coast schools because they know absolutely nothing about them or theyre too much of a homer to realize the same level of football is played outside of their favorite school. it just so happens that its a fan THE OHIO STATEZZZZ because we all know they play the bestzzz footballzzz in the worldzzz

if i hurt your feelings by being sarcastic.. i dont really care. grow some. neg rep doesn't mean much buddy.

also cut it out with the labeling gimmick offense ****. i swear anybody that doesn't operate out of the I is labeled a gimmick offense. like everyone is supposed to stick to the same gameplan and run the same **** over and over. oh you wanna be different? gimmick!

You are the only one bringing up OSU. This is a discussion about LSU vs Oregon. I have no idea where this spazztic behavior is coming from. I should know better than to respond to your mindless trolling of mentioning a team that has nothing to do with the conversation.

I guess you are still mad at a West coast gimmick team getting smoked two seasons in a row in a BCS game?

Chip Kelly is no big game coach. Nothing but a trash talking choker. That pays for players. See, I can troll too.

Gimmick = hurry up offense with the coach calling plays with giant cards on the sideline. If a team has an athletic defense that is capable of keeping their assignments, Oregon is stifled. This has happened when they play above average defenses.

Gimmicks are what people do to break trends. Sometimes the gimmicks themselves turn into mainstream trends. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, but once gimmicks are cracked, they do not give you the advantage that you have previously seen. And Oregon's gimmick has been cracked.

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 03:40 PM
LSU is going to physically dominate Oregon at the line of scrimmage.

Except the Bayou Bengals can also match up speed wise with the Ducks.


Seeing as how this game is being played in Death Valley, I'll take LSU and give 10 points...

Exactly. And I'd agree with your spread.

hawkeye123
07-22-2011, 03:42 PM
LSU is going to physically dominate Oregon at the line of scrimmage.

Except the Bayou Bengals can also match up speed wise with the Ducks.


Seeing as how this game is being played in Death Valley, I'll take LSU and give 10 points...

The game is played at a neutral site in Dallas.

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 03:52 PM
The game is played at a neutral site in Dallas.

Still LSU by 10. The swamp people will outnumber the Oregon fans 2 to 1.

YAYareaRB
07-22-2011, 04:37 PM
You are the only one bringing up OSU. This is a discussion about LSU vs Oregon. I have no idea where this spazztic behavior is coming from. I should know better than to respond to your mindless trolling of mentioning a team that has nothing to do with the conversation.

I guess you are still mad at a West coast gimmick team getting smoked two seasons in a row in a BCS game?

Chip Kelly is no big game coach. Nothing but a trash talking choker. That pays for players. See, I can troll too.

Gimmick = hurry up offense with the coach calling plays with giant cards on the sideline. If a team has an athletic defense that is capable of keeping their assignments, Oregon is stifled. This has happened when they play above average defenses.

Gimmicks are what people do to break trends. Sometimes the gimmicks themselves turn into mainstream trends. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, but once gimmicks are cracked, they do not give you the advantage that you have previously seen. And Oregon's gimmick has been cracked.

im trying to show you that you're downgrading a team for the same points and weaknesses your very own team has. if you like michigan i would bring up michigan. if you like kentucky wesleyan i would bring up kentucky wesleyan. im not particularly hating on ohio state, but their fans are some of the most annoying i have ever come across.

the only thing i get mad at is when homers, like yourself, make outrageous comments because you dont watch teams on the west coast. you probably dont even watch southern football or else you'd know that jordan jefferson is probably the most inconsistent qb in the nation and hes not even THAT good when hes on his game

smoked? a 9 pt rose bowl loss and 3 pt national championship=smoked? ahhh ok i get it. gtfo

ill admit tho, chip definitely faltered in this 2 big bowls.. in two years of being a head coach.

let me get this straight 1 loss=gimmick cracked? again please, gtfo

soybean
07-22-2011, 05:29 PM
God i hate les miles.

YAYareaRB
07-22-2011, 05:39 PM
God i hate les miles.

more is les

SickwithIt1010
07-22-2011, 07:17 PM
I mean they are a smurf football team that plays inferior competition most of the year.

Yes, they are quick and have some great small fast guys at the skill positions. But their lines are a joke. Both offensive and defensive. And their overall defense has been pretty weak. Until that changes, I will mock them.

They are like Leach era TTU, TCU, etc... Gimmicky to obscure their weaknesses. Not that obscuring their weaknesses is a fault, but I just think that they are grossly overrated due to the Nike affiliation.

Well I guess over hyped/overrated teams are good enough to play for the NC and come within 3 points of winning. There offensive line is far from a weakness IMO. Defensive line, I agree with.

Inferior competition? They have been playing in the Pac 10 (12?), I wouldnt call that inferior competition, its one of the best conferences in the country. Cmon, you talk like they are playing in the big 10 or somethin lol.

They aren't overrated because of Nike, they are becoming an elite program because of Nike. They are getting hyped more and more because they are becoming a very good football team.

This is coming from a USC fan...

JoeJoeBrown
07-22-2011, 08:32 PM
Well I guess over hyped/overrated teams are good enough to play for the NC and come within 3 points of winning. There offensive line is far from a weakness IMO. Defensive line, I agree with.

Inferior competition? They have been playing in the Pac 10 (12?), I wouldnt call that inferior competition, its one of the best conferences in the country. Cmon, you talk like they are playing in the big 10 or somethin lol.

They aren't overrated because of Nike, they are becoming an elite program because of Nike. They are getting hyped more and more because they are becoming a very good football team.

This is coming from a USC fan...

They are going to fade away. They aren't remotely the same caliber as USC during their heyday a few years ago.

You build programs with linemen and defense which they lack.

I think the Pac 10 has been poor the past few years. The major programs are still down. USC and Cal are subpar as compared to their recent performance level. UCLA is way down historically.

Stanford and Oregon are up. The Zona schools are confusing, if not bipolar.

The Pac10 is a fine conference wasn't ripping on it, just think they are down due to the dominant powers being down. At the same level last year as Big12 and Big11. They were all relatively the same.

SEC........lots of space........... Big11 Big12 Pac10 all close if not tied.....ACC...................................... ...............Big Least.

This doesn't change my opinion that I think LSU is going to roll Oregon.

YAYareaRB
07-22-2011, 11:23 PM
i would definitely take the pac-12 in front of the big 10 although nebraska bolsters their strength. might even take it over the big 12. but thats a big might

JoeJoeBrown
07-23-2011, 12:29 AM
i would definitely take the pac-12 in front of the big 10 although nebraska bolsters their strength. might even take it over the big 12. but thats a big might

Of course you would. That's why regional sports are fun, as when things are even slightly close, we pull for our favorites.

Last year, there is no way the Pac10 was better than the Big10 or Big12.
Only four freaking teams made it to a bowl game. It's not hard to make a bowl game. USC would have made it five.

But who cares? That's like picking your favorite turd. The SEC is solid top to lower middle tier. It's sick.

YAYareaRB
07-23-2011, 02:00 PM
true about the SEC. they are the top dog. i like the Pac-12 because its a different dog each year. with the big 10 its ohio state.. and then whoever has a good enough team that year to upset them, maybe.

i also just feel you're not giving oregon enough credit saying they would get rolled by LSU. I mean what game in the last 3-4 seasons makes you think LSU would roll anyone?

JoeJoeBrown
07-23-2011, 08:15 PM
true about the SEC. they are the top dog. i like the Pac-12 because its a different dog each year. with the big 10 its ohio state.. and then whoever has a good enough team that year to upset them, maybe.

i also just feel you're not giving oregon enough credit saying they would get rolled by LSU. I mean what game in the last 3-4 seasons makes you think LSU would roll anyone?

I'm the guy that was dead certain that wisconsin was going to destroy tcu.

That's why I don't bet on sports. I'd rather have you guys dog me than lose real money :)

YAYareaRB
07-24-2011, 12:27 AM
I'm the guy that was dead certain that wisconsin was going to destroy tcu.

That's why I don't bet on sports. I'd rather have you guys dog me than lose real money :)

i dont bet either. i tend to favor the underdog a little too much

mellojello
07-31-2011, 02:26 PM
i dont bet either. i tend to favor the underdog a little too much

The NFL is great if u like betting the dogs.

As for the game, if I was putting money on it, I would take Oregon.

YAYareaRB
08-01-2011, 12:57 AM
The NFL is great if u like betting the dogs.


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hawkeye123
09-02-2011, 04:34 PM
Kickoff is tomorrow.

LSU won't have Jordan Jefferson playing. Big blow?

diabsoule
09-02-2011, 09:03 PM
Kickoff is tomorrow.

LSU won't have Jordan Jefferson playing. Big blow?

Slightly alters the game plan but not a huge blow. JJ was up and down last year with an equal number of bad games to good games and a lot of mediocre ones. LSU will lose the athleticism at QB and replace it with a more prototypical pocket passer. Lee has arguably a stronger arm and, despite his 2008 year, has proven to be slightly more accurate.

Babylon
09-02-2011, 09:14 PM
Two class programs going at each other.

tjsunstein
09-02-2011, 11:25 PM
Rooting for LSU so they're ranked higher when they go into Morgantown.

Brent
09-03-2011, 09:33 PM
Two class programs going at each other.
did you mean classless?

JoeJoeBrown
09-03-2011, 10:30 PM
did you mean classless?

He was being very sarcastic.

BTW, those of us that picked LSU by a bunch were right. The Oregon lines were dominated. They just aren't good enough in the trenches to beat the best teams.

keylime_5
09-03-2011, 10:35 PM
You must not have not have watched Oregon at all in the past few years. Their line isn't their strength but not much of a weakness either; yes they got abused by Fairley in the NC game but what O-Line didn't get abused by him last year?

Their defense was extremely underrated last year, they were the only defense Andrew Luck didn't tear up. They lost a lot of key starters from last year though. Losing Cliff Harris for this game doesn't help either.

ohio state's line dominated Oregon in the '10 Rose Bowl, Auburn owned Oregon up front in the NC, and now LSU owned Oregon up front tonight. They don't have the big bodies up front to win the big one with that gimmick offense, but they will win a lot of games and are getting there. Once they can start recruiting/developing good line talent they'll be winning championships with the talent they've been collecting at the skill positions.

JBCX
09-04-2011, 07:57 AM
The Oregon offense is nothing but smoke and mirrors. Teams with competent defensive lines such as Ohio State, Auburn, and now LSU have all shown that to be true over the past three years.

Messi333
09-04-2011, 05:57 PM
I like LSU and I best wish for LSU.