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roscoesdad27
07-24-2011, 07:34 AM
3 predictions,..Kolb to Arizona for 2012 and 2013 second round picks, Pryor to Buffalo for a 4th in the supplemental draft and Aso to Philly.

Fluker, Murry and Rhodes stay in school.

Round 1

1) Washington.... A. Luck, q.b. Stanford
2) Minnesota... M. Khalil, l.t. USC
3) Seattle... M. Barkley, q.b. USC
4) Cleveland... M. Te'O, mlb N.D.
5) Tennessee... A. Jeffery, w.r. South Carolina
6) Miami... L. Jones, q.b. Oklahoma
7) Buffalo... J. Martin, l.t. Stanford
8) Carolina...D. Kirkpatrick, c.b. Alabama
9) Jax... Q. Coples, d.e. UNC
10) Denver... J. Worthy, d.t. Michigan State
11) Cinci... R. Lester, s Alabama
12) Detroit... V. Burfict, mlb Arizona State
13) T.B. ... L. Kuechley, mlb B.C.
14) S.L. ... M. Forston, d.t Miami
15) Giants... T. Richardson, r.b. Alabama
16) Dallas... C. Minnifield, c.b. Virginia
17) K.C. ... R. Reif, o.t. Iowa
18) Oakland... R.G. 3, q.b. Baylor
19) S.F. ... A. Dennard, c.b. Nebraska
20) Houston... J. Blackmon, w.r. Okie State
21) Chicago... S. Gilmore, c.b. South Carolina
22) Pitt... C. Hayward, c.b. Vandy
23) Arizona... DPM, 3-4 olb UNC
24) S.D. ... B. Jenkins, 3-4 olb FSU
25) N.E. (N.O.)... M. Brewster, c Ohio State
26) N.E. ... J. Crick, 3-4 d.e. Nebraska
27) Philly... B. Massie, o.t. Ole Miss
28) Indy... J. Fuller, w.r. Texas A+M
29) Jets... K. Tate, s.s./pass rusher Maryland
30) Cleveland (Atlanta)... N. Perry, d.e USC
31) G.B. ... D. Taylor, 3-4 olb South Carolina
32) Baltimore... P. Konz, c Wisconsin

Round 2

33) Minnesota... T.J. McDonald, s USC
34) Washington... D. Decastro, o.g Stanford
35) Cleveland... N. Bradham, olb FSU
36) Tennessee... K. Osemele, o.g./r.t. Iowa State
37) Seattle... C. Owusu, w.r. Stanford
38) Buffalo... M. Floyd, w.r. N.D.
39) Carolina... B. Washington, o.g. Miami
40) Jax... T. Lewis, olb Oklahoma
41) Denver... C. Judie, c.b. Texas A+M
42) Cinci... L. Miller, r.b. Miami
43) Miami...L. James, r.b. Oregon
44) T.B. ... C. Glenn, o.g./r.t Georgia
45) Detroit... A. Datko, l.t. FSU
46) S.L. ... B. Irvin, 4-3 olb/r.e. WVU
47) Dallas... B. Jones, o.g. Alabama
48) Giants... J. Franklin, mlb Arkansas
49) N.E. (Oakland)... V. Curry, 3-4 olb Marshall
50) S.F. ... B. Steinkuhler, 3-4 d.e. Nebraska
51) K.C. ... C. Upshaw, 3-4 ted ilb/olb Alabama
52) Houston... V. Telemaque, f.s. Miami
53) Chicago... D. Jones, w.r. UNC
54) Pitt... N. Potter, l.t. Boise State
55) Philly (Arizona)... E.J. Manuel, q.b. FSU
56) S.D. ... R. Broyles, w.r. Oklahoma
57) N.O. ... Z. Brown, wlb UNC
58) N.E. ... S. Good, o.g. Oklahoma
59) Philly... K. Robinson, mlb Texas
60) Indy... R.R. Armstrong, s.s. Miami
61) Jets... L. Adcock, r.t. Oklahoma State
62) Atlanta... K. Tandy, c.b. WVU
63) G.B. ... K. Rhandall, 3-4 d.e. Texas
64) Baltimore... B. Winn, 3-4 d.e. Boise State

Round 3

65) Washington... K. Davis, r.b. Arkansas
66) Minnesota... K. Zeitler, o.g. Wisconsin
67) Tennessee... H. Smith, s.s. N.D.
68) Seattle... D. Trufant, c.b. Washington
69) Cleveland... M. Adams, r.t. Ohio State
70) Carolina... N. Toon, w.r. Wisconsin
71) Jax... G. Reid, c.b. FSU
72) Denver... T. Powell, d.t. UNC
73) Cinci... J. Massaquoi, r.e. Troy
74) Miami... J. Jenkins, c.b. N. Alabama
75) Buffalo... C. Jones, 3-4 olb Syracuse
76) Detroit... D. Fletcher, c.b. B.C.
77) T.B. ... C. Gray, r.b. Texas A+M
78) S.L. ... B. Boykins, c.b. Georgia
79) Giants... B. Jones, c/o.g. Georgia
80) Dallas... M. Claiborne, c.b. LSU
81) S.F. ... C. Fleener, t.e. Stanford
82) K.C. ... A. Tamamu, n.t. Washington
83) Oakland... K. Watkins, o.g./r.t South Carolina
84) Houston... K. Geathers, n.t. Georgia
85) Chicago...T. Carder, slb/mlb TCU
86) Pitt... S. Skov, 3-4 ted ilb/olb Stanford
87) Arizona... T. Hawkinson, l.t. Kansas
88) S.D. ... J. Foreman, o.g. Michigan State
89) N.O. ... B. Thompson, d.t. Clemson
90) N.E. ... G. Childs, w.r. Arkansas
91) Philly ... J. Hosely, c.b. V.T.
92) Indy... D. Still, d.t. PSU
93) Jets... B. Lindsey, 3-4 olb Pitt
94) Atlanta... J. Smith, d.e. Mizzou
95) G.B. ... P. Blake, c/o.g. Baylor
96) Baltimore ... D. Hightower, 3-4 ted ilb Alabama

Pat Sims 90
07-24-2011, 08:49 AM
Kirkpatrick will only be the pick if Joseph is not brought back and it will be hard for the Bengals not to bring back Joseph with all the Money they have to spend to reach CAP. S, DL, QB, RB, or OL would be addressed in the 1st if Joseph is brought back.

James is awesome in the 2nd Round.

Matthew Jones
07-24-2011, 09:29 AM
Love the Patriots draft. I actually don't know enough about Stephen Good to comment on that pick, but the other ones would substantially upgrade the team, and we could use a guard as well. Nice job.

roscoesdad27
07-24-2011, 09:45 AM
Kirkpatrick will only be the pick if Joseph is not brought back and it will be hard for the Bengals not to bring back Joseph with all the Money they have to spend to reach CAP. S, DL, QB, RB, or OL would be addressed in the 1st if Joseph is brought back.

James is awesome in the 2nd Round.

yeah, the new cap floor def throws some new wrinkles. I actually like your d.t. rotation but a true r.e. will be needed accross from Dunlap and the only d.e. worth the pick is more of a l.e. . Dont think Richardson is quite worth the pick either. I havent gave up on Andre Smith either but its hard to predict whether he will settle at r.t. or o.g. . All in all I think Lester would be best esp. if I improve your record by 1 game due to joseph coming back. Will do some reshuffling, thanx for the input.

Matthew Jones
07-24-2011, 09:56 AM
yeah, the new cap floor def throws some new wrinkles. I actually like your d.t. rotation but a true r.e. will be needed accross from Dunlap and the only d.e. worth the pick is more of a l.e. . Dont think Richardson is quite worth the pick either. I havent gave up on Andre Smith either but its hard to predict whether he will settle at r.t. or o.g. . All in all I think Lester would be best esp. if I improve your record by 1 game due to joseph coming back. Will do some reshuffling, thanx for the input.

I think Andre Smith can safely be considered a massive bust so far...dude has not performed nearly as well as expected. I wouldn't be surprised if this was his last season in town.

shylo3716
07-24-2011, 10:15 AM
Round 1

27) Philly... B. Massie, o.t. Ole Miss

Round 2

55) Philly (Arizona)... E.J. Manuel, q.b. FSU

Round 3

91) Philly ... C. Harris, c.b. Oregon


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shylo3716
07-24-2011, 10:18 AM
Round 3

79) Dallas... J. Hosely, c.b. V.T.


Way too low!

shylo3716
07-24-2011, 10:28 AM
Miller stay in school.

Lamar Miller is made for the NFL, not collegiate academics. He has prototypical size and speed for the next level. He's not an eloquent speaker to say the least and I don't see why he'd stay in school when that's not his calling. His gifts lie in football and he's physically ready.

Is this valid enough to put Miller in your updated version.....It's almost a crime not to have him in a Mock.

BTW What about Denard Robinson.....Too dynamic not to be a 3rd rounder at least.

roscoesdad27
07-24-2011, 11:30 AM
Way too low!

don't like how he physically translates to the NFL, will be a steal as a third round nickel prospect.

roscoesdad27
07-24-2011, 11:31 AM
Is this valid enough to put Miller in your updated version.....It's almost a crime not to have him in a Mock.

BTW What about Denard Robinson.....Too dynamic not to be a 3rd rounder at least.

Just included Miller....Robinson isn't coming out

shylo3716
07-24-2011, 11:48 AM
Where Cliff Harris go LOL I did not mean for you to scare him off.

fenikz
07-24-2011, 12:15 PM
sextastic cardinals mock

proshoota25
07-24-2011, 12:27 PM
i doubt buffalo uses a 4th to get pryor....

and sexy pats draft thatd be awesome

wicket
07-24-2011, 12:28 PM
fine saints mock but not spectacular

K Train
07-24-2011, 02:06 PM
dennard, potter are spectacular picks....give me hosley or hightower in the 3rd and im a seriously seriously happy steelers fan

roscoesdad27
07-24-2011, 03:58 PM
dennard, potter are spectacular picks....give me hosley or hightower in the 3rd and im a seriously seriously happy steelers fan

I like skov over hightower esp. in your scheme where he can be a downhill ted ilb with the potential to play olb when harrison moves on.

shylo3716
07-24-2011, 04:12 PM
Where Cliff Harris go & what makes you think Denard Robinson will not come out......Denard has plenty buzz to at least be a 3rd Rounder

vidae
07-24-2011, 05:40 PM
Solid KC mock. I'd take it.

rawdawg
07-24-2011, 09:27 PM
OK Bears mock. Love Gilmore in the 1st. Hopefully, the Bears really take care of WR and OG in free agency and can go after a CB early for the first time in my life. Gilmore's a really good fit in Chicago. Not a fan of Jones in the 2nd. I worry about Carder in the middle of a 4-3 defense. I don't know if he can consistently make plays in all the wreckage at the line of scrimmage. He's not that big at 237 on a 6'3" frame. But if Urlacher has a few more years left, Tank could be a beast at SLB where he is able to just fly to the ball and make plays.

Pat Sims 90
07-24-2011, 10:00 PM
I think Andre Smith can safely be considered a massive bust so far...dude has not performed nearly as well as expected. I wouldn't be surprised if this was his last season in town.

He has not performed is because he has missed more games then he has appeared in. But u are right he is a massive Bust and i said that when they drafted him and i was right.

ellsy82
07-24-2011, 10:43 PM
Haha. Baltimore wins the superbowl. That's funny.

Hayward in the first seems a bit high. We have plenty of needs and I'd take a guy like Ta'ama in the first. Other than that, I have no problem with Potter in the 2nd and definately not with Skov in the 3rd. Bargain central. But Hayward...I'm a fan, but kind of a Carmichael fan from this last draft. Not before the 3rd.

roscoesdad27
07-25-2011, 05:40 AM
Where Cliff Harris go & what makes you think Denard Robinson will not come out......Denard has plenty buzz to at least be a 3rd Rounder

harris doesn't translate well either.....if robinson was slated to play r.b., slot or atleast return punts i would include him....as of now hes the starting q.b.

roscoesdad27
07-25-2011, 05:48 AM
OK Bears mock. Love Gilmore in the 1st. Hopefully, the Bears really take care of WR and OG in free agency and can go after a CB early for the first time in my life. Gilmore's a really good fit in Chicago. Not a fan of Jones in the 2nd. I worry about Carder in the middle of a 4-3 defense. I don't know if he can consistently make plays in all the wreckage at the line of scrimmage. He's not that big at 237 on a 6'3" frame. But if Urlacher has a few more years left, Tank could be a beast at SLB where he is able to just fly to the ball and make plays.

1) Yes, Gilmore would be a PERFECT fit in your cover 2.
2) Jones is almost a steal there and compliments your current w.r. corps very well.
3) Tank would ideally play slb till Urlacher retires or gets hurt, then potentially take over at the Ray spot.

K Train
07-25-2011, 08:48 AM
1) We shoulda won it last year, had the best draft class, have very few f.a. needs or issues and the top 2 defensive players in the league. Weve been better than you guys for a few years now, your uncanny luck is gonna run out.

2) All Hayward does is shut down the opposing teams best w.r. with nobody in front of him...and he has prototypical size for your cover 2, what dont you like?

best draft class? lol

and maybe they would have won it if flacco wasnt just terrible when all he needs to be is moderately effective.

hayward isnt a good fit...i dont know what kind of defense you think the steelers run but not sure i would call it a pure cover 2 at all. Dennard and Minnifield are perfect fits.

K Train
07-25-2011, 12:47 PM
1) we needed a big c.b., a fast w.r. to stretch defenses and double as a return guy and we needed a r.t. to allow yanda to move back to guard.....we NAILED it.

2) you guys just get flukey lucky, sometimes the better team dont win.....t.j. housh dropped a gorgeous pass that ended the game.

3) dennard and minnfield are slightly better prospects imho but they all fit the same.

the ravens havent been better than the steelers in a decade, maybe a season here or there but overall theres no way in hell. take off the purple glasses for a hot second. Flukey lucky and choking cause your in over your head is a fine line i guess.

Dennard is the perfect steeler CB, minnifield a scond and id say hosley 3rd...just not a fan of hayward at this point

etk
07-25-2011, 01:29 PM
Bucs at pick 13 makes no sense unless Freeman gets injured.

A+++ draft though. Hit it out of the park with all 3 picks. Cyrus Gray in the 3rd....I'd shed tears of joy. Then again that's about as likely to happen as us getting DaQuan Bowers in the...oh wait.

Your order of the prospects in the 1st is excellent too. Great mock.

ellsy82
07-25-2011, 01:37 PM
1) We shoulda won it last year, had the best draft class, have very few f.a. needs or issues and the top 2 defensive players in the league. Weve been better than you guys for a few years now, your uncanny luck is gonna run out.

2) All Hayward does is shut down the opposing teams best w.r. with nobody in front of him...and he has prototypical size for your cover 2, what dont you like?

*rolls on the floor laughing, foot kicking air*

ellsy82
07-25-2011, 02:41 PM
Hosely is 170 pounds, no way would he fit your press cover 2 scheme.

See u clowns week 1.

*still rolling*

shylo3716
07-25-2011, 04:12 PM
I still would like to know why no Denard Robinson???? Please gimme a 1 page essay to why he won't declare for the 2012 class because for every reason you say no I have a reason to say yes.

prock
07-25-2011, 04:28 PM
That is an unbelievable draft for the Vikes. But I am confused as to why everything thinks the Vikings will be picking top 5 (or tied for the worst record in this case). We have too much talent to be that bad.

ellsy82
07-25-2011, 04:44 PM
That is an unbelievable draft for the Vikes. But I am confused as to why everything thinks the Vikings will be picking top 5 (or tied for the worst record in this case). We have too much talent to be that bad.

The Pats and Steelers could be the top pick in 2012. He's just throwing darts, like all of us are at this point.