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Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2011, 12:35 AM
Reported by PFT

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/28/saints-dolphins-agree-to-terms-on-reggie-bush-trade/

http://twitter.com/#!/Jay_Glazer/status/96450397996199936

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 12:36 AM
"There’s also a chance that Bush will stay put in New Orleans, if he agrees to accept a reduced rate of pay."


So I mean, is he traded or not?

BaLLiN
07-28-2011, 12:37 AM
"There’s also a chance that Bush will stay put in New Orleans, if he agrees to accept a reduced rate of pay."


So I mean, is he traded or not?

yeah im confused too, is this a trade or just something in the works?

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 12:38 AM
Sounds like the Dolphins and Saints have it set up if they can't work out a deal for the Saints/Reggie.

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2011, 12:40 AM
See Jay Glazer's Tweet as he is the one reporting it:

"I'm reporting the Saints and Fins have worked out terms of a trade for RB Reggie Bush, contingent on Bush agreeing to a new contract w Fins"

Flyboy
07-28-2011, 01:02 AM
There's a couple of things holding up the trade right now:

A) NO & MIA coming to terms with a new contract for Bush if he is traded.
B) The fact that Bush could just decide to come back to NOLA at a reduced rate...

In the end, I think it'll be A but Jeff Ireland is also said to be "sleeping on the deal". There should be for sure confirmation by tomorrow morning, I'd assume. If he gets traded, I'll definitely miss him as a player regardless of his lackluster production per his draft position - he played a KEY role in Sean Payton's offense and the way defenses accounted for him can't be understated.

And, if he is traded... Mickey Loomis is a pure genius. Taking a player that we probably going to be cut anyhow and able to trade him and trade him out of the NFC. Regardless of the compensation if it happens, kudos to Mickey Loomis doin' WORK.

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 01:11 AM
It'll probably be low compensation, just so the Phins don't have to compete with other teams, and so the Saints can get something.

I mean, who else would trade for a guy that is certainly going to hit the market in some fashion?

AntoinCD
07-28-2011, 01:17 AM
I suppose Bush could force the issue by not agreeing to a contract and forcing the Saints to cut him tomorrow. Then he could go to the highest bidder but I think that is unlikely

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 01:21 AM
Hopefully if they do something, it's performance based. I'd like to ease the sting if he happens to blow up.

bigbuc
07-28-2011, 01:35 AM
Bush is a big name that doesn't have big game.... By week three he'll be out for 2 to 3 games and week to week for the rest of the season

V.I.P
07-28-2011, 01:46 AM
I suppose Bush could force the issue by not agreeing to a contract and forcing the Saints to cut him tomorrow. Then he could go to the highest bidder but I think that is unlikely

Hopefully this happens.

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 02:14 AM
Sounds like it's basically up to Reggie at this point.

Shane P. Hallam
07-28-2011, 02:27 AM
Jeff Darlington indicates Bush is happy with the arrangement and will restructure for Miami:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/28/2334372/dolphins-make-midnight-move-for.html

Grizzlegom
07-28-2011, 05:48 AM
I'm being told its only for a 6th round pick.

hockey619
07-28-2011, 08:08 AM
i still really want to see reggie bust out and play up to his billing, but i dont think its happening.

Marshall faulk was good in indy, then became a superstar with the rams with that offense. Itd be cool if reggie could do the same thing as many compared him to faulk coming out.

But i dont see it. hes too indecisive as a runner, he looks like hes gotten a little too top heavy with his lifting and doesnt quite have the same shiftiness he used to. when he runs, he far too often tries to get the guy to commit to a side so he can slip him, but fails to and ends up just running straight into him. Hes a good recieving theat, but he does drop a few that he really shouldnt. maybe a new start will get him back into it.

like someone else said: big name, lots of hype, but not big game.

SolidGold
07-28-2011, 08:18 AM
Bush is a glorified 3dRB but I do think he is a very good reciever out of the backfield. He will never be a number 1 RB and never lived up to his draft status but if Miami resigns Ricky and or Ronnie I think Bush could find a niche and be quasi productive - mostly as a receiver. Also, it might help Henne if he is still the starter to have Bush as a security blanket.

Matthew Jones
07-28-2011, 08:40 AM
I like the fit as a complimentary guy in Miami - he will serve as a quality receiver and help create mismatches. Daniel Thomas shouldn't have to play every down.

SolidGold
07-28-2011, 08:45 AM
Yipes i forgot they drafted Daniel Thomas.

Flyboy
07-28-2011, 09:31 AM
The main sticking point of why Bush went to Miami is the amount of touches he'll receive and the opportunity to really be "the guy". That wasn't happening with Thomas, Ivory and Ingram in the mix.

Nalej
07-28-2011, 09:34 AM
I'm not too excited about watching Bush return punts on the Patriots.
We do have Lord Zoltan though so I doubt he ever gets a good return opportunity. Still though.

Splat
07-28-2011, 09:35 AM
I hope they have a good back up.

Jimmy
07-28-2011, 09:36 AM
Edit: wrong thread

There's no way daniel thomas isn't starting week 1. Although, I do see bush being used a lot in passing situations. poor man's panther duo

gpngc
07-28-2011, 10:47 AM
It's a little weird because part of Daniel Thomas' value is his talent as a receiver. Still, I love paying less for Bush than other teams did for ******* kickers by Miami. Any team could use a weapon like that.

If they get Orton, they'll be my #1 surprise team because of their unknown VERY GOOD D. These moves on O (and specials) are icing on the cake.

V.I.P
07-28-2011, 10:52 AM
Yipes i forgot they drafted Daniel Thomas.

I doubt they resign Ronnie or Ricky now.

gpngc
07-28-2011, 10:55 AM
I doubt they resign Ronnie or Ricky now.

If you looked up the word "ineffective" in the dictionary, you'd see a picture of Ronnie Brown last season. He was never an option for them and I'm not surprised with the lack of interest league-wide.

Malaka
07-28-2011, 11:07 AM
Ricky may be back if he doesn't retire, he lives in Miami with his family, and I think he'd take a smaller salary to just play for a couple more years in the place he calls home.

And if you remember Ricky Williams is not a type a guy that's all for the money. I remember Gillette offering him millions in endorsements to shave his dreads with their razor. He said no, and did later anyway for free.

SolidGold
07-28-2011, 11:38 AM
Ronnie Brown has been a pretty underwhelming player considering he was the 4th overall pick. Ricky Williams would be a better fit to come back IMO.

descendency
07-28-2011, 11:55 AM
I kind of wanted to see him in NE.

Imagine what he could do with Kevin Faulk's coaching.

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 12:01 PM
Ronnie Brown has been a pretty underwhelming player considering he was the 4th overall pick. Ricky Williams would be a better fit to come back IMO.

2nd overall. And he was an amazing player for a short time while he was 100% healthy. Injuries have riddled him though and he's lost his speed.

CJSchneider
07-28-2011, 12:11 PM
I'm eager to see what we got in return.

GoRavens
07-28-2011, 12:23 PM
Miami fans are praying that the coaching staff knows what to do with a player like Reggie Bush.

ATLDirtyBirds
07-28-2011, 12:27 PM
I'm eager to see what we got in return.

I believe I read Glazer said it was hardly anything.

diabsoule
07-28-2011, 12:28 PM
It's probably a 6th or 7th and S Jonathan Amaya. Whatever it was, it was more than we would have got if we cut him, which we were planning on doing. And yes, I used the word "we" a lot because I'm a member of the Saints organization.

gpngc
07-28-2011, 12:31 PM
^I heard a 6th somewhere. Which is pretty hilarious.

Give up 2nd overall pick.
Get Reggie Bush.
Win Super Bowl with help of Reggie Bush.
Gain 6th round pick.

Age-old quagmire - was Reggie Bush a bust? A successful pick? WHAT WAS HE!?!?!

diabsoule
07-28-2011, 12:38 PM
http://www.wwl.com/What-will-the-Saints-get-for-Reggie-Bush-/10476820

Saints will get a 4th round pick as well.

PoopSandwich
07-28-2011, 12:40 PM
Reggie still has potential he just needs to stay on the field. Phins need to learn how to use him in the slot with Marshall and they could be pretty deadly.

I'm not sure about their TE situation but if they could land Zach Miller that would be a pretty good offseason.

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 12:42 PM
4th and Amaya? What happened to 6th rounder :(

diabsoule
07-28-2011, 12:47 PM
Loomis wiggled his nose and pulled a 4th rounder and a special teams standout from the Dolphins for Bush when the Saints were just going to cut him. Mikey Loomis, you magnificent bastard.

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 12:52 PM
Why is no where else reporting that? It says according to ESPN. All I see on ESPN is Amaya. Quite skeptical.

Mr. Goosemahn
07-28-2011, 01:13 PM
Why is no where else reporting that?

Wha...

Is it just me, or is this a terribly construed sentence?

In any case, I no know why no person different ESPN reports that.

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 01:24 PM
Wha...

Is it just me, or is this a terribly construed sentence?

In any case, I no know why no person different ESPN reports that.

Terribly construed? It should be "no one else", sorry. Or "why isn't anyone else". I don't think that makes it terribly "construed", it gets the point across.

SaintsMan
07-28-2011, 01:25 PM
Loomis wiggled his nose and pulled a 4th rounder and a special teams standout from the Dolphins for Bush when the Saints were just going to cut him. Mikey Loomis, you magnificent bastard.

I luv Loomis :)

Mr. Goosemahn
07-28-2011, 01:32 PM
Terribly construed? It should be "no one else", sorry. Or "why isn't anyone else". I don't think that makes it terribly "construed", it gets the point across.

I was joking dude, not to be taken seriously.

It gets boring being a Steelers fan during free agency. :S

GaMeTiMe
07-28-2011, 01:39 PM
Bush will probably be less of a factor in Miami than he was in New Orleans (where I would agree with the statement that he was a very good specialist and nothing more). I still think Miami brings in Marion Barber and uses a three-back committee, and they should also end up upgrading the QB position with either Orton or Vince Young (imagine VY and Bush ending up together after all their college/draft history..), keeping their passing attack at least better than inept.

Not sure how he fits into the whole Wildcat thing or if they'll even use that anymore (talk about flash in the pan) but there's no reason to think he'll end up better over the length of his deal than Darren Sproles, who I figured the Dolphins would end up zeroing in on instead.

Raiderz4Life
07-28-2011, 01:42 PM
Reggie still has potential he just needs to stay on the field. Phins need to learn how to use him in the slot with Marshall and they could be pretty deadly.

I'm not sure about their TE situation but if they could land Zach Miller that would be a pretty good offseason.

Miller is going nowheres yo!!

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 01:50 PM
Will always wonder how our offense would have been had he lived up to his high billing. What was already arguably the most explosive offense over his tenure here, could have been legendary.

I guess we definitely did well, considering we got a 4th when we were cutting him loose, but it still stings, and I think he'll way outproduce that, if he's healthy, which isn't a given.

I think the Saints are a talented enough team that you kinda keep wildcards like Bush. We never had to rely on him 100%, but if he got hot, we could ride it.

I dunno, I hope he does well, he'll certainly get more touches there.

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 01:53 PM
Will always wonder how our offense would have been had he lived up to his high billing. What was already arguably the most explosive offense over his tenure here, could have been legendary.

I guess we definitely did well, considering we got a 4th when we were cutting him loose, but it still stings, and I think he'll way outproduce that, if he's healthy, which isn't a given.

I think the Saints are a talented enough team that you kinda keep wildcards like Bush. We never had to rely on him 100%, but if he got hot, we could ride it.

I dunno, I hope he does well, he'll certainly get more touches there.


I'm pretty sure you aren't getting a fourth.

diabsoule
07-28-2011, 02:18 PM
I'm pretty sure you aren't getting a fourth.

http://www.wwl.com/What-will-the-Saints-get-for-Reggie-Bush-/10476820

According to ESPN, the Saints are getting a Dolphins player in the trade with Miami along with a 4th round draft pick for running back Reggie Bush.

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 02:25 PM
Find me the ESPN link then. That's from 2 hours ago and I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.

bigbluedefense
07-28-2011, 03:49 PM
It's ok Saints fans. You don't have to defend him anymore. He's someone else's underachiever now.

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 03:55 PM
Lol, oh the irony.

bigbluedefense
07-28-2011, 03:59 PM
I thought Philly would have been the best place for Reggie. If anyone would revive his career, it would have been Fat Andy.

I can't envision him succeeding in Miami.

Auron
07-28-2011, 04:04 PM
What concerns me is apparently the Miami side told him they had plans for him to be the "main guy" and that was the key sticking point for Reggie to agreeing to the contract. Reggie is not going to be the type of backs that can hold up an entire season seeing 20+ touches a game.

I think the role he had here in New Orleans was perfect, I do think he can be an impact player for Miami my only worry is the injuries... but maybe playing mostly on Grass will help his knees down the road.

hockey619
07-28-2011, 04:31 PM
I thought Philly would have been the best place for Reggie. If anyone would revive his career, it would have been Fat Andy.

I can't envision him succeeding in Miami.

Philly, indy, and NE were the spots where i thought he had the best shot of coming close reaching his potential, with SF as a sleeper.


i too am looking forward to the renegging of all the saints fans as they finally, mercifully admit that bush has been a disappointment. I always here the 'hes a great decoy' and 'he creates so many mismatches,' both crap excuses.

hes never been the mismatch that he was supposed to be. treat him like a wr, and put another CB or S on the field for him. oh he'll run it on you if you put out a light package? yeah, ill believe it when i see it.

J-Mike88
07-28-2011, 04:35 PM
Very nice move for the Fish.

He's the best receiving RB in the league (most catches in NFL as RB), and like him or not, he attracts a lot of focus/attention from opposing defenses.

I'm glad to not have to face him on Thursday Night Sept 8th in the NFL Kickoff at Lambeau Field, Saints @ Packers.

Now, if the Fish can just get themselves a QB who can take advantage of Brandon Marshall and Reggie Bush's play-making abilities.

J-Mike88
07-28-2011, 04:37 PM
I'm being told its only for a 6th round pick.
Wow..... no wonder why the Packers couldn't get ANYTHING for Nick Barnett.

Yet the Iggles got DRC, AND a 2nd rounder for Kolb?

dolphinfan2k5
07-28-2011, 05:47 PM
Apparently Sean Payton was on NFLN and said the trade is Reggie for Amaya and a swap of undisclosed draft picks.

Saints-Tigers
07-28-2011, 06:32 PM
I thought Philly would have been the best place for Reggie. If anyone would revive his career, it would have been Fat Andy.

I can't envision him succeeding in Miami.

I can. They should have a strong run blocking line, a lot better than ours was, and they'll be able to open up holes for him to get through. Sparano wants to run, and he's creative with it, he'll get Reggie in good positions.

That, and they won't give him 2 carries and then wait 2 quarters before he gets another.

I think Reggie will look good, and people will think it's some new development, or pretend he changed as a player.

I'd only worry about injuries, a healthy Reggie will impress this year.

Da-Phins
07-28-2011, 10:20 PM
Its a decent pickup but we still have Chad Henne as our starter so.......

diabsoule
07-28-2011, 11:15 PM
The money the Saints saved by trading Reggie Bush paid for nearly ALL of the life of Darren Sproles' contract.

Flyboy
07-29-2011, 12:00 AM
Mickey Loomis, you are a genius.

niel89
07-29-2011, 01:13 AM
Great move by the Saints. Drop Bush's big contract and pick up Sproles who basically fill in his role just fine.

bigbluedefense
07-29-2011, 10:32 AM
Philly, indy, and NE were the spots where i thought he had the best shot of coming close reaching his potential, with SF as a sleeper.


i too am looking forward to the renegging of all the saints fans as they finally, mercifully admit that bush has been a disappointment. I always here the 'hes a great decoy' and 'he creates so many mismatches,' both crap excuses.

hes never been the mismatch that he was supposed to be. treat him like a wr, and put another CB or S on the field for him. oh he'll run it on you if you put out a light package? yeah, ill believe it when i see it.

Yeah, those 2 teams too. Basically, you need to create as much space as possible for Reggie bc his vision is terrible.

I can. They should have a strong run blocking line, a lot better than ours was, and they'll be able to open up holes for him to get through. Sparano wants to run, and he's creative with it, he'll get Reggie in good positions.

That, and they won't give him 2 carries and then wait 2 quarters before he gets another.

I think Reggie will look good, and people will think it's some new development, or pretend he changed as a player.

I'd only worry about injuries, a healthy Reggie will impress this year.

I'm not buying it to be honest. It's never Reggie's fault. It's the oline, it's the coach, it's the injuries etc.

How is it the oline's fault? Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory, and even Julius Jones (JULIUS FREAKIN JONES) all ran better behind the same exact oline than Reggie.

Why is it a problem for him and not them?

He doesn't get touches bc he sucks as a runner. It's that simple. Sean Payton is an offensive genius. I think he knows what he has in Reggie. If he was any good, he would give him touches. And he wouldn't sign Thomas long term, and trade a future 1st for Ingram.

He is what he is. Give him a lot of space and he can be dangerous. But he lacks the vision, toughness, and patience to ever live up to his hype.

Saints-Tigers
07-29-2011, 11:35 AM
Yeah, those 2 teams too. Basically, you need to create as much space as possible for Reggie bc his vision is terrible.



I'm not buying it to be honest. It's never Reggie's fault. It's the oline, it's the coach, it's the injuries etc.

How is it the oline's fault? Pierre Thomas, Chris Ivory, and even Julius Jones (JULIUS FREAKIN JONES) all ran better behind the same exact oline than Reggie.

Why is it a problem for him and not them?

He doesn't get touches bc he sucks as a runner. It's that simple. Sean Payton is an offensive genius. I think he knows what he has in Reggie. If he was any good, he would give him touches. And he wouldn't sign Thomas long term, and trade a future 1st for Ingram.

He is what he is. Give him a lot of space and he can be dangerous. But he lacks the vision, toughness, and patience to ever live up to his hype.


Reggie ran for more yards per carry the last two seasons than Pierre Thomas and more than Julius Jones did in his one season here, even coming off a broken leg. He had less than 10 carries, broke his leg, and came back early and was still gimpy, and still ran better than Thomas and Jones did, substantially better than Pierre did. Nice try?

I dunno why people keep trying to use Chris Ivory and Pierre Thomas as a knock, Pierre is a guy that can go well over 5 yards per carry without ever breaking a 30 yarder, and Chris Ivory is one of the most talented pure runners in a while, the dude is extremely fast, powerful, and violent, and if he comes back healthy, he'll be among the league leaders in YPC again. (and if he could catch, stay healthy, hold onto the ball, we wouldn't care about any other backs, but unfortunately he's a monster as a runner, and one of the worst as a starter in every other category)

Maybe it's time for people to accept that because something was true early in a player's career, it might not be a fact 5 years later, and Reggie is a radically different runner than when he was in his 1st and 2nd season, and if the sample size were bigger, more people would notice.

There is a problem with Reggie, a big one. He needs touches to establish a rhythm, but he can't stay healthy when you give him a heavier workload. I would try him away from punt returns though, a lot of his injuries and games missed were freak incidents on punts.

We'll see though.

Edit: I never said the o-line was a problem, I think Miami's will run block better though. Last two seasons ours hasn't been an issue though, we could be better running to the outside, but our tackles are average as a whole, and below average as run blockers, but we ran easily to the interior, all of our backs did their damage between the tackles(Reggie included), but it's not hard to see why, because I think Evans and Nicks could be argued as the best two guards in the league.

But yea, with guys like Jake Long and Pouncey in there, and Sparano seems to really commit to the run, which I think is a big deal, because one of the most frustrating things for Reggie, was giving him ike 2-3 carries and never giving him another until like the 4th quarter, even if he had like 20 yards on those few carries. We used to do the same thing to Pierre in his rookie year, before he started getting a bulk of the carries.

bigbluedefense
07-29-2011, 11:42 AM
Punt returns is the main reason I would want him. He's a dynamic punt returner.

He can return punts, he is excellent when catching passes in space and he's an underrated redzone RB, but he's just not consistent, and I've yet to see him run inside for an entire game and not come out of the pile limping.

He's just not built to be a running back. That's why I thought he was perfect for Philly, a team that throws 70% of the time anyway, and has tons of speed on the field that allows Reggie to operate in as much space as possible would have been perfect for him.

Miami? He's going to be a dud there. He's not a real running back.

Saints-Tigers
07-29-2011, 11:46 AM
Punt returns is the main reason I would want him. He's a dynamic punt returner.

He can return punts, he is excellent when catching passes in space and he's an underrated redzone RB, but he's just not consistent, and I've yet to see him run inside for an entire game and not come out of the pile limping.

He's just not built to be a running back. That's why I thought he was perfect for Philly, a team that throws 70% of the time anyway, and has tons of speed on the field that allows Reggie to operate in as much space as possible would have been perfect for him.

Miami? He's going to be a dud there. He's not a real running back.

Those are all fair criticisms, I just think that not being able to stay healthy isn't a real knock on playing ability, it's a different issue.

He is awesome as a returner, but like I said, I dunno if his injuries are just related to "not being a real RB" as much as he's just... really injury prone, period. He had 7 carries, and a bunch of catches this year, and the first awkward fall in a punt return pile broke his leg.

Good catch on the red zone thing, he doesn't get enough credit there. Dude gets it done down there.

He might catch lightning in a bottle and have a healthy season. I hope he does, for his sake.

Edit: Anyway, the Saints will be fine, I think I liked having Reggie because we could always hope he would break out, on a game to game, or year to year basis, but we are always good enough to not have to count on it.

I think he could still be a great player for someone, but unless we have a rash of injuries, we'll have enough at RB, but I would like to add an explosive threat to the offense, we have a lot of guys that can do solid things, but something like Randy Moss maybe, would be nice too.

It might have been best for both sides to move on really, but I do wish Reggie all the best.

bigbluedefense
07-29-2011, 11:52 AM
I think the biggest misconception about Reggie is the thought that he's a runner like Tomlinson.

He's not Tomlinson at all. Reggie is at his best as a 1 cut runner. ZBS 1 cut running.

Indy's run game is actually perfect for him. The stretch run with cut back abililty with ZBS blocking up front is perfect for him.

Reggie needs to do a better job of pass protection though. For a guy who is supposed to make his money as a pass catcher out of the backfield, he's a mediocre pass protector.

There is potential still there, I'm not denying that, but he needs to be in a perfect fit, and I don't think Miami is that fit.

Saints-Tigers
07-29-2011, 11:55 AM
I think the biggest misconception about Reggie is the thought that he's a runner like Tomlinson.

He's not Tomlinson at all. Reggie is at his best as a 1 cut runner. ZBS 1 cut running.

Indy's run game is actually perfect for him. The stretch run with cut back abililty with ZBS blocking up front is perfect for him.

Reggie needs to do a better job of pass protection though. For a guy who is supposed to make his money as a pass catcher out of the backfield, he's a mediocre pass protector.

There is potential still there, I'm not denying that, but he needs to be in a perfect fit, and I don't think Miami is that fit.

I agree, except about the blocking. Reggie was a phenomenal pass protector, not so much as a bruiser, but his blitz recognition was outstanding, and he almost always would get low enough to take a blitzer out of the play and still get up and leak out for a pass.

I like him better in a one cut scheme too, he struggled here when we tried to get fancy and run him outside, but when we went heavy package and had him make one cut, is when he had most success (See superbowl season).

Colts would have been a nice fit for him.

JWZZR
07-29-2011, 03:41 PM
Dont really Like this move,but hey we got him cheap,and if the Dolphins could add a Jerome Harrison or Snelling I would be happy

wordofi
07-31-2011, 12:53 PM
Nobody told Bush that you can't get by on athleticism alone in the NFL.

dolphinfan2k5
08-16-2011, 10:30 PM
For those of you who are interested in following this trade, Reggie has been the first guy into practice and the last guy to leave pretty consistently since coming to the Dolphins. He seems really dedicated to improving his game. I can't wait to see him. Based on the first preseason game, it seems like the offense will suit him better than our offense did last year, and him and Bess should create some big matchup problems. We just need Henne to be average. Reggie was running sprints alone after practice today.

JeffDarlington Jeff Darlington
@Reggie_Bush update: He's now running sprints from sideline to
sideline. Sweltering heat. Fans chanting his name. Only player left here.

CC.SD
08-17-2011, 12:08 AM
Hey hater dbags, I hope you are ready for a 1200/1000 season from Reggie Bush this year. Legggeenndary it's called the book of Marshall Faulk, he is come amongst us again, he is risen, you should read it. This system is perfect for Reggie and he will get all the touches. Bandwagon starts NOW

niel89
08-17-2011, 12:16 AM
The date says today, yet it feels like 2006.

CC.SD
08-17-2011, 12:30 AM
Also Mario Williams only got his numbers against ACC teams.

Ness
08-17-2011, 02:15 AM
For those of you who are interested in following this trade, Reggie has been the first guy into practice and the last guy to leave pretty consistently since coming to the Dolphins. He seems really dedicated to improving his game. I can't wait to see him. Based on the first preseason game, it seems like the offense will suit him better than our offense did last year, and him and Bess should create some big matchup problems. We just need Henne to be average. Reggie was running sprints alone after practice today.

If the passing game struggles though teams are just going to stack the box against Bush. He already has a shaky injury history as it is. Honestly I think this might be the end of Bush's career. He's not in New Orleans anymore where he was a component of a great offense.

Halsey
08-17-2011, 05:47 AM
For those of you who are interested in following this trade, Reggie has been the first guy into practice and the last guy to leave pretty consistently since coming to the Dolphins. He seems really dedicated to improving his game. I can't wait to see him. Based on the first preseason game, it seems like the offense will suit him better than our offense did last year, and him and Bess should create some big matchup problems. We just need Henne to be average. Reggie was running sprints alone after practice today.

lol...Denial is a funny thing.

DraftSavant
08-17-2011, 10:22 AM
The date says today, yet it feels like 2006.

This.

One day, the irrational Bush defenders will be no more. Expect the Saints fans to completely jump off the bandwagon now that they have a better player for half the price.

If anything, Bush was overvalued because of the New Orleans system. No other team would spend that much effort to force feed such an inefficient player the ball.

dolphinfan2k5
08-17-2011, 11:08 AM
lol...Denial is a funny thing.

You're right, because Mark Sanchez is sooo much better than average. The Dolphins can have a great defense, and plenty of talent on offense if Henne can produce an average season. I'm not exactly expecting that, but the rest of the team can get it done.

Splat
08-17-2011, 11:11 AM
Bush is still in the NFL?

diabsoule
08-17-2011, 11:24 AM
Bush is still in the NFL?

I was surprised to. Surprisingly the NFL hasn't gone fully Brazilian.

Splat
08-17-2011, 11:44 AM
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DraftSavant
09-09-2011, 10:29 AM
I don't want to hear anybody make an excuse for Reggie Bush ever again.

soybean
09-09-2011, 02:04 PM
I don't want to hear anybody make an excuse for Reggie Bush ever again.

why what happened?

that was random...

D-Unit
09-09-2011, 04:51 PM
Reggie Bush is gonna have a nice year. Think Darren McFadden 2010... all the way down to the injury bug.

keylime_5
09-09-2011, 04:54 PM
Reggie Bush is suddenly gonna be good enough of a runner between the tackles to be more than a glorified receiving/3rd down back after basically being that every year including college?

DraftSavant
09-09-2011, 04:56 PM
why what happened?

that was random...

Did you not see Darren Sproles last night...

Jvig43
09-09-2011, 04:58 PM
Did you not see Darren Sproles last night...

Yeah, he was Reggie Bush 2.0, whats the point?

Shane P. Hallam
09-09-2011, 05:26 PM
Yeah, he was Reggie Bush 2.0, whats the point?

Or is Reggie Bush Darren Sproles 2.0? Probably more accurate. If Bush exceeds McFadden's 2010 numbers, I'd eat my hat. Interior O-line for Miami not good enough to do that for me.

Matthew Jones
09-09-2011, 06:29 PM
Anyone else think Reggie Bush is the NFL's version of Tyson Chandler? Absurdly hyped prospect who fails to live up to expectations but still ends up being a very valuable player with a unique game?

J255979-11nine
09-09-2011, 06:38 PM
Anyone else think Reggie Bush is the NFL's version of Tyson Chandler? Absurdly hyped prospect who fails to live up to expectations but still ends up being a very valuable player with a unique game?

Who's Tyson Chandler?

D-Unit
09-09-2011, 06:48 PM
Anyone else think Reggie Bush is the NFL's version of Tyson Chandler? Absurdly hyped prospect who fails to live up to expectations but still ends up being a very valuable player with a unique game?
I don't think anyone else in the entire world ever tied those 2 together. lol.

You're on your own on that one bud. :)

I get your point though. It's fair.

Ness
09-09-2011, 07:33 PM
Reggie Bush is suddenly gonna be good enough of a runner between the tackles to be more than a glorified receiving/3rd down back after basically being that every year including college?

The cards are really not in Bush's favor. He's already injury-prone, wasn't a great runner between the tackles in New Orleans on a potent offense. I hope no one expects him to be a dynamo in Miami, where the offense is much worse.

D-Unit
09-09-2011, 07:48 PM
The cards are really not in Bush's favor. He's already injury-prone, wasn't a great runner between the tackles in New Orleans on a potent offense. I hope no one expects him to be a dynamo in Miami, where the offense is much worse.
It will be fun to watch it unveil. Nobody really expected DMAC to do what he did last year and Oakland's offense wasn't notable either. When healthy, Bush has been effective in the capacity he was put in while in NOR. He's not gonna turn into Michael Turner, but from what I follow, he'll be getting a lot more opportunity to carry the ball than what he used to in NOR.

Ness
09-10-2011, 01:57 AM
It will be fun to watch it unveil. Nobody really expected DMAC to do what he did last year and Oakland's offense wasn't notable either. When healthy, Bush has been effective in the capacity he was put in while in NOR. He's not gonna turn into Michael Turner, but from what I follow, he'll be getting a lot more opportunity to carry the ball than what he used to in NOR.

When McFadden was drafted I had faith in him personally. I just felt sorry because he was going to Oakland, a team were he would struggle to show off his talent. But he overcame it. Bush was in the perfect situation and was basically a glorified Kevin Faulk. It's not the same kind of situation. Bush had a great situation and didn't live up to the hype.

Saints-Tigers
09-10-2011, 02:06 AM
It's really not a perfect situation, I dunno why people keep saying that. It's Drew Brees, and a whole lot of offensive players that are good, but none great. (save the guards...sometimes).

It's not BAD situation, but when you get 2-5 carries, which are super tosses, double reverses, and like one basic run up the middle, it's hard to do a whole lot.

Ness
09-10-2011, 03:35 AM
It's really not a perfect situation, I dunno why people keep saying that. It's Drew Brees, and a whole lot of offensive players that are good, but none great. (save the guards...sometimes).

It's not BAD situation, but when you get 2-5 carries, which are super tosses, double reverses, and like one basic run up the middle, it's hard to do a whole lot.
It's an offense that clicks and scores a boatload of points. It may not be perfect, but it's one of the best in the NFL. Good to enough for Bush to have shown something. Perhaps Bush got all of those types of carries because he couldn't run between the tackles and get the tough yards on a consistent basis...which is what it seems they drafted Ingram for.

Saints-Tigers
09-10-2011, 05:29 AM
But bush's yards per carry between the tackles has been fine for a few years.

Ness
09-10-2011, 01:00 PM
But bush's yards per carry between the tackles has been fine for a few years.

Really? Come on now. If the Saints give Bush 300 attempts pure year could he really sustain that with a good average and get the tough yards? He doesn't seem like that kind of player. If it's minimal he'd be fine, but can he really carry the load for an entire season if the team needs him to?

dolphinfan2k5
09-10-2011, 01:08 PM
Really? Come on now. If the Saints give Bush 300 attempts pure year could he really sustain that with a good average and get the tough yards? He doesn't seem like that kind of player. If it's minimal he'd be fine, but can he really carry the load for an entire season if the team needs him to?

No one has ever said he was meant to be that type of player. That would be stupid. That doesn't mean he sucks.

Ness
09-10-2011, 01:09 PM
No one has ever said he was meant to be that type of player. That would be stupid. That doesn't mean he sucks.

Before he was drafted he was crowned as the best back to come out of college since Barry Sanders. It has been said before, just not in recent years. I'm not saying he sucks, I am saying he's overhyped and the expectations of being a difference maker should be tempered.

Flyboy
09-10-2011, 01:16 PM
But, what did Bush particularly do to overhype himself? The hype came from the media based on his play while at USC.

dolphinfan2k5
09-10-2011, 01:19 PM
Before he was drafted he was crowned as the best back to come out of college since Barry Sanders. It has been said before, just not in recent years. I'm not saying he sucks, I am saying he's overhyped and the expectations of being a difference maker should be tempered.

Obviously he was overhyped, that's not what this discussion is about at all. You don't have to get 300 carries to be a difference maker.

Ness
09-10-2011, 01:38 PM
But, what did Bush particularly do to overhype himself? The hype came from the media based on his play while at USC.

I'm not saying it's his fault. I'm just saying he's overhyped. Who is responsible isn't the point.

D-Unit
09-12-2011, 06:18 PM
Today is the day Reggie Bush starts his HOF career. :)