PDA

View Full Version : 2011 Weekly Prospect Standouts: FR-SR


Ozzy
09-02-2011, 07:35 AM
Well it is that time of year again, it is always so much fun to see how each roster and each prospect has developed over the summer. So here we go...


Week 1:
*Marcus Rucker JR WR Memphis: Saw little bits of him last year, really impressed with his overall growth, now he is a big physical kid. Has awful quarterback play but as a receiver he looks very good, has nice hands, gives good effort and is becoming a man on the field.


*Winston Guy SR SS Kentucky: His teammate gets more hype, but this kid can play. Big time hitter, was moved up to a linebacker role this year, but he could be a fine safety in the NFL. Good tackler, plays aggressive and is a fine athlete, one to watch out for at safety in a weak safety class.


*Andrew Jackson SR ILB Western Kentucky: A little stocky at linebacker, but he is quick and very aggressive tackling. Really plays the run well and hits very hard. Gives max effort all of the time, if he shows a little more range on the field and ability to cover he has a chance in the NFL I think.


*Chris Relf SR RB/WR Miss State: Too early to make the Brad Smith reference, this kid is a beast, huge man, could possibly play receiver or running back in the NFL. Very impressive looking athlete, possibly a team will take him under their wing like Joe Webb and try to make him a quarterback. All I know he is a fine athlete and will probably be playing on Sundays.


*Kadeem Jones SOPH FB Western Kentucky: Fine your fullback, blocks aggressive, is a thumper that knocks people back. Still has youth so in a few years he could be a very interesting run blocking full back/H-back.


*Russell Wilson SR QB Wisconsin: As much as I hate to say it, but Wisconsin is going to be very hard to beat this year in the Big Ten. Wilson is easily the best quarterback they have had there, possibly in the past decade or more. He is going to kill this year, and hopefully will stick with football and try the NFL, his bootleg ability and tough he gets on his passes is elite, hope he sticks with football.


*Travis Frederick SOPH OG Wisconsin: I really like his size and athletic ability, turns out they will not miss a beat at guard without Moffitt, this guy can really play and will be in line with all the rest of them.


*Jameon Lewis FR WR Miss State: Made a lot of mistakes but the kid has star potential, is athletic, confidence, can break tackles and will be a stud return man. Should become a Percy Harvin big play type of player for that Miss State offense.


*Rob Havenstein RS FR OT Wisconsin: Another star in the waiting potentially, huge kid, 6-8, plays aggressively and knows how to block, should be absolutely elite in a few years.


*Danny Trevathan SR OLB Kentucky: Gets a lot of hype, tackling machine, impressive in the conference he is in. I want to see a little more impact play making out of him, not just tackling a ball carrier but making impact plays. If he does he could increase his stock greatly.


*Nick Toon SR WR Wisconsin: Has always been around, now with Wilson as a quarterback, if he stays healthy he could have a massive year catching the football. Solid receiver prospect that could increase his stock a lot this year.


*James Carmon SR OT Miss State: Solid lineman, very good athlete, big man, should be one of the leaders for that fine Miss State running game and should get a shot at the league next year.


*Randall Burden SR CB Kentucky: I like his coverage ability and will have to watch more of him. Seems very comfortable and smooth in coverage, will see if that keeps up with improved competition.


*Ryan Groy SOPH OG Wisconsin: Will have to watch him more next time, was absolutely flying down the field blocking on a run play, will watch out for that kid that is for sure.


*Josh Oglesby SR OT Wisconsin: Good to see he is actually getting playing time. He is nothing great, but is a decent athlete and has a shot to develop over time.


*Deontae Skinner SOPH OLB Miss State: Not a great linebacker but has some ability to play, has good speed, gets after it and makes plays around the line of scrimmage and in the open field, decent prospect.







Here are the Weekly prospect threads from the past three years. Enjoy look back, I always do...
2010 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42256&highlight=standouts)

2009 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35297&highlight=prospect)

2008 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25353&highlight=prospect)

TACKLE
09-02-2011, 04:17 PM
Vontaze Burfict - 3 sacks last night vs. UC Davis

gator3guy
09-02-2011, 07:04 PM
TY Hilton = Dynamite

Looked extremely quick. Almost took the opening kick to the house. Got tripped up at the one on a reverse. This kid is going to help someone out at the next level if nothing more than as a return man/gadget guy.

tjsunstein
09-02-2011, 11:16 PM
You missed Wisconsin C Peter Konz.
Otherwise, definitely informative stuff.

San Diego Chicken
09-03-2011, 06:10 AM
I look forward to these every year Ozzy. Good to have football back!

TheFinisher
09-03-2011, 06:39 AM
Kwame Geathers has supposedly turned the corner this off-season, which is great because he's an absolute mammoth of a man. Should be fun to see how he plays against Boise today.

gpngc
09-03-2011, 09:20 AM
Kenny Wright's #s say it all. 12 catches, 186 yards, 2 TDs. 2 completed passes and a passing TD. He looks like a thicker Mike Wallace with less speed.

And RG3 looked pretty good. I'm not sure if he'll be a QB at the next level but he's definitely worth a draft pick based on his athleticism and pure football-player feel.

Tank Carder SR LB TCU didn't stand out much. He failed to get off blocks consistently and made most of his tackles after decent gains.

M.O.T.H.
09-04-2011, 02:00 AM
ECU's Lance Lewis ate Stephon Gilmore's lunch all game long. Lewis producing is nothing new, but he looked excellent out there yesterday. Beat Gilmore on jump balls twice. He also saw several screens and a lot of backed off coverage. But he played really well, and he was getting the best of our corners, regardless of coverage. He made Gilmore look silly.

Gilmore had and up and down game. As was said, he didnt look good when he had to cover Lewis. And he also fumbled a punt return, which resulted in another 7 points for ECU. As the game wore on, he started making some plays, luckily. His vertical is ridiculous, had a pair of pass breakups and some nicely timed hits that lead to incompletions. He had tight coverage pretty much all day, but Lewis bested him, nearly every time they were matched up together and he was targeted. It's nice that he was in position, most of the time, but we're going to need for him to play better.

TheFinisher
09-04-2011, 08:33 AM
Impressive performances:

Even though Notre Dame lost, Michael Floyd is an animal. There was a point in the 2nd half where ND was trying to come back and Floyd was unstoppable, he's just too big and physical for most corners and he knows how to use it to his advantage. USF was sending out a LB just to try and jam him off the line before he got into his route.

Same goes for Manti Te'o. He's the prototypical 3-4 ILB, the way he stacks and sheds is fun to watch and he's as sure of a tackler as you're going to find in college football. Takes great inside-out angles on outside runs. I know Burfict gets a lot more hype, but Te'o isn't too far off from him.

LSU true SO Tyrann Mathieu is a gamer. He's only 5'9 which is on the shorter side for a CB, but he plays so much bigger. He was all over the field last night for LSU, the lined him up outside, in the slot, wherever. Some players just have a natural ability to read a QBs eyes, and Mathieu's one of them. He made some great breaks on the ball. But out of all that, the thing I liked most is how physical he is. He got to the QB a few times off the blitz and was a sure tackler in space. I'll definitely be watching LSU now whenever I can this year.

Ozzy
09-04-2011, 11:45 AM
TheFinisher Impressive performances:

Even though Notre Dame lost, Michael Floyd is an animal. There was a point in the 2nd half where ND was trying to come back and Floyd was unstoppable, he's just too big and physical for most corners and he knows how to use it to his advantage. USF was sending out a LB just to try and jam him off the line before he got into his route.

Same goes for Manti Te'o. He's the prototypical 3-4 ILB, the way he stacks and sheds is fun to watch and he's as sure of a tackler as you're going to find in college football. Takes great inside-out angles on outside runs. I know Burfict gets a lot more hype, but Te'o isn't too far off from him.

LSU true SO Tyrann Mathieu is a gamer. He's only 5'9 which is on the shorter side for a CB, but he plays so much bigger. He was all over the field last night for LSU, the lined him up outside, in the slot, wherever. Some players just have a natural ability to read a QBs eyes, and Mathieu's one of them. He made some great breaks on the ball. But out of all that, the thing I liked most is how physical he is. He got to the QB a few times off the blitz and was a sure tackler in space. I'll definitely be watching LSU now whenever I can this year.I totally agree, Floyd is a stud and should be a lock to be a 1st round pick, and if he has a great year he could be the 1st receiver taken in the draft I feel.

I agree with Mathieu as well, that secondary was so so at the start of last year even with Peterson. But now all of those young guys and better, and Mathieu is a stud. That defense really impressed me and they are so much better than they were the season before, it is crazy.


tjsunstein You missed Wisconsin C Peter Konz.
Otherwise, definitely informative stuff.I try to stick to only players that have really improved over last year or new prospects that stood out, or players that last year I did not have listed as a prospect. Konz I had listed last year and think he could be a 1st round pick this year or next and is easily the best center I have seen so far in the country.

gpngc
09-04-2011, 12:12 PM
Co-sign on Floyd. He looks quicker.

Babylon
09-04-2011, 12:57 PM
I'm leaning towards Blackmon and Jeffery over Floyd but it's early.

What stood out to me was the combination of Matt Barkely throwing and Matt Kalil blocking. Barkely will no doubt end up in either Seattle or Washington after those two stink it up and Kalil looks like the best tackle i've seen since Joe Thomas.

M.O.T.H.
09-04-2011, 01:17 PM
Speaking of Jeffery...I'm not worried or anything, but his overall conditioning seems bad right now. He was on the sideline a lot yesterday, huffing and puffing. He looks good, though. Looks real trim around the waist line, but he's def. not at his top "football shape".

ElectricEye
09-04-2011, 01:55 PM
Floyd looked real sharp yesterday. He's just got a real good all around game. Not one of those guys you can shut down easily because of that. His athletic ability and character concerns might give teams some pause though, along with the injury history. Can't argue with the results when he's on the field though.

proshoota25
09-04-2011, 02:26 PM
will be a homer

John Brantley, QB, Senior--- Looked SOOO much better than any game last year, albeit against FAU. He had touch and accuracy, and even made a lot of good reads. He could be a fast riser with a very good year. Could be the next in line to get drafted relatively high under Charlie Weiss' guidance and tutelage

Chris Rainey, RB, Senior - Getting the first oppurtunity to run the ball in a pro style offense instead of the spread and he sure is impressing. He made FAU's defense look childish as he repeatedly made them look bad and broke their ankles. I could see him drafted in rounds 2-4 this year, as a 3rd down specialist and special teams ace.

Our young defensive line is insane. Ronald Powell, D. Easley (true sophomores), along with Jelani Jenkins (redshirt soph) could be potential first round picks next year.

ElectricEye
09-04-2011, 02:35 PM
The guy who jumped off the page the most to me out of the Oregon/LSU game was Barkevious Mingo. Didn't show up on the stat sheer anywhere as much as I thought he would watching the game with a long tackle for a loss being his only contribution, but he consistently got into the backfield and chased down some of the fast Oregon players all game. Great frame and speed combo at 6'5 240 with a reported 4.5 40 yard dash. Could be a factor in the draft as early as this year, although he's far from a finished product.

rawdawg
09-04-2011, 04:47 PM
ECU's Lance Lewis ate Stephon Gilmore's lunch all game long. Lewis producing is nothing new, but he looked excellent out there yesterday. Beat Gilmore on jump balls twice. He also saw several screens and a lot of backed off coverage. But he played really well, and he was getting the best of our corners, regardless of coverage. He made Gilmore look silly.

Gilmore had and up and down game. As was said, he didnt look good when he had to cover Lewis. And he also fumbled a punt return, which resulted in another 7 points for ECU. As the game wore on, he started making some plays, luckily. His vertical is ridiculous, had a pair of pass breakups and some nicely timed hits that lead to incompletions. He had tight coverage pretty much all day, but Lewis bested him, nearly every time they were matched up together and he was targeted. It's nice that he was in position, most of the time, but we're going to need for him to play better.

Gilmore looks like a Cover 2 CB to me. Prototypical size. Not great recovery speed, but a really good tackler. Excellent at high-pointing the ball. And I love any player that actually excels in the classroom as well. He's a smart kid. But he has all the makings of a guy that if you sit him back in a disciplined zone and let him come up and break on the ball, he'll shine.

Right now at USC, he's facing the #1 WR for every team. He's playing a lot of off-man coverage, and he's just not technically sound enough to dominate to the level of his physical abilities.

Big Bird
09-04-2011, 06:24 PM
Lance Lewis is a Hakeem Nicks clone. I noticed him last year and he just had ridiculous tools. The guy is a complete animal.

SolidGold
09-04-2011, 08:19 PM
Tannehill looks good so far...I'm hitching my wagon to him this season. Strong arm, mobile and accurate...I think he has Redskins written all over him (unless the Skins win the Luck sweepstakes)

tjsunstein
09-04-2011, 08:22 PM
Stedman Bailey, WR WVU
Tyrann Mathieu, CB LSU
Jarius Wright, WR Arkansas
Orson Charles, TE Georgia
Marvin McNutt, WR Iowa

Pretty much on target with my breakout players. (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48543)

dannyz
09-04-2011, 09:51 PM
Jadeveon Clowney looked pretty good for his Fist Game.

herkyhawkeye
09-04-2011, 10:40 PM
Marvin McNutt stat line in an absolute monsoon 6 catches 140 yards 2 TDS

An 88 yard score and a 19 yard jailbreak screen for score.

phlysac
09-04-2011, 10:47 PM
Homer...


Ray Graham - 201 yards rushing, 3 Touchdowns.

tjsunstein
09-04-2011, 11:03 PM
Marvin McNutt stat line in an absolute monsoon 6 catches 140 yards 2 TDS

An 88 yard score and a 19 yard jailbreak screen for score.

It seems like WR gets deeper and deeper by the week.

M.O.T.H.
09-05-2011, 01:29 AM
Jadeveon Clowney looked pretty good for his Fist Game.

He looked great. Hard to describe his technique...a bit on the wild side, he just brawls with dudes, it's awesome. He was all over Dom Davis. Davis actually did a fantastic job in the face of that pass rush all night long. But it wont take long for Clowney to get that first sack. Nearly had an INT in this one, too. Guy is just going to be one of those amazing play making DEs. Gonna fill up that stat sheet.

TACKLE
09-05-2011, 02:17 AM
Homer...


Ray Graham - 201 yards rushing, 3 Touchdowns.

Ray Graham is a beast. So underrated but that'll change soon.

PACKmanN
09-05-2011, 01:15 PM
I really like Tyrann Mathieu. Only knock on him is his height

tjsunstein
09-05-2011, 01:32 PM
I really like Tyrann Mathieu. Only knock on him is his height
He's definitely an exception to the height rule when you watch him play. He's always making a play on the ball and can change the game with his intensity. He was one of my picks for Breakout Players of 2011 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48543).

Hurricanes25
09-05-2011, 02:17 PM
Western Michigan WR Jordan White (senior)

He looked very good against Michigan. He had 12 catches for 119 yards against the Wolverines. He had a big years last year as well.

He is 6'0 but looks like a solid possesion WR.

dannyz
09-05-2011, 02:39 PM
Daimion Stafford looked really good for Nebraska, a JUCO player that can really hit. Might have a Year like Lavonte David.

wordofi
09-05-2011, 03:54 PM
De'Anthony Thomas needs to work on ball security. However, he looks like he's going to be really good as a RB/WR.

Big Bird
09-05-2011, 10:21 PM
On SportsCenter, they just said Lamar Miller hit slightly over 20 mph on his 41-Yard TD Run. Chris Johnson hit 22 on a TD run before (both in full pads).

I think it's safe to say Lamar Miller has ridiculous speed...

tjsunstein
09-05-2011, 10:43 PM
On SportsCenter, they just said Lamar Miller hit slightly over 20 mph on his 41-Yard TD Run. Chris Johnson hit 22 on a TD run before (both in full pads).

I think it's safe to say Lamar Miller has ridiculous speed...
They got a speed insanely wrong yesterday when I was watching. Not sure how much I really trust those.

Ozzy
09-05-2011, 10:48 PM
Week 1:
*Danny O'Brien SOPH RS QB Maryland: Really impressive outing for him, had him on the radar last year but he impresses even more this year. Has a very quick release, big kid, accurate, can move in the pocket. If he keeps up his development and stays one or two more years, he could be an extremely high pick and a possible franchise quarterback when all is said and done.


*Spencer Ware SOPH RB LSU: Very impressed with him, has nice leg strength, surprising quickness and can run you over or make you miss. Look for him to have a huge year for LSU.


*TJ McDonald JR FS USC: Nice to see he got a lot tougher tackling, laid down some very hard aggressive hits against the Gophers. If he keeps up that level of intensity and consistency tackling he is a lock 1st rounder whenever he comes out.


*Robert Griffin Baylor RS JR QB/WR Baylor: Wow, what a game, showed a much stronger arm than he has in past years where he just threw short screens all game long. Still does not have a Vick type arm I feel, but with the game he had many might start comparing the two.


*Jake Stoneburner JR TE Ohio State: Solid tight end, good athlete, gets down the field well. Should have a solid season and is a good looking prospect.


*Nicolas Jean-Baptiste SR NT Baylor: Thick guy, natural NT, good athlete, can get after the passer a little as well, very promising player with a lot of potential at the next level.


*Barkevious Mingo SOPH OLB LSU: Like someone else already said, kid is a beast. Great athlete, got constant pressure on the quarterback, really talented player and could be a star 3/4 OLB.


*Ramon Buchanan SR OLB Miami FL: Played a good game, showed great open field speed and always has produced on the field for Miami. He will get a chance in the league, solid player.


*Matt Furstenburg JR TE Maryland: Ok prospect, got down the field well and showed ability to block at times. Still has to work on a lot but is someone to watch.


*Joel Figueroa SR OT Miami FL: Improved his quickness and his footwork, able to stay infront of the defender most of the night. Aggressive blocker, stays with it and finishes plays.


*Sam Montgomery SOPH DE LSU: I like the push he got in the pocket, part of the insane sophomore class for LSU. Very solid pass rusher and should have a fine season.


*Tharold Simon SOPH FS LSU: Another LSU soph, big safety, I love his size and he has improved a lot off last season.


*Harland Gunn SR OG Miami FL: Decent guard, had a very solid game and plays tough and aggressive football, will be interesting to see how he finishes the rest of this season.





Disappointed:
Seantrel Henderson SOPH OT Miami FL: Just the fact the kid got suspended for the game against Maryland for being overweight and being upset he was listed behind someone on the depth chart. Seriously, he is not starting his college career off well, a ton of talent but really has to get his act together if he wishes to be an elite player. Do not be shocked if Washington stays at tackle possible and Figueroa plays over Henderson much like he did last year at times, we will see.

Jermaine Johnson SOPH OT Miami FL: Not clue where he was, did not play against Maryland. Another huge talent on Miami but is not seeing much from him and it is sad if someone that talented cannot even see the field.

Kenny Tate JR OLB Maryland: I like his talent but he looked so so at linebacker. Still getting used to the effort it takes to rush the passer, cannot always get by one with speed at all times or a stunt. Made plays on special teams a lot which was impressive, but need to see more ability to get off blocks if he is going to play linebacker. But there is time, and sure he will turn it around and have a fine year.


ElectricEye
The guy who jumped off the page the most to me out of the Oregon/LSU game was Barkevious Mingo. Didn't show up on the stat sheer anywhere as much as I thought he would watching the game with a long tackle for a loss being his only contribution, but he consistently got into the backfield and chased down some of the fast Oregon players all game. Great frame and speed combo at 6'5 240 with a reported 4.5 40 yard dash. Could be a factor in the draft as early as this year, although he's far from a finished product.Good call, kid is an absolute stud. I hope he comes back for another year but who knows, if he has a great season he could easily come out. Love that size and athletic ability, much less love that LSU sophomore class, it is sick...

keylime_5
09-05-2011, 11:26 PM
I think Seantrel had a back problem and is out for the season.

phlysac
09-05-2011, 11:33 PM
They got a speed insanely wrong yesterday when I was watching. Not sure how much I really trust those.

Yeah they had "The Clock" on Brandon Boykin's long TD and it showed him hitting over 30mph.

I lol'ed.

ElectricEye
09-05-2011, 11:36 PM
They got a speed insanely wrong yesterday when I was watching. Not sure how much I really trust those.

I don't at all. It just doesn't seem very practical. Nice little thing for ESPN and Sportscenter to be like "Oh, look!", but I've seen some weird things with it too.

Ozzy
09-06-2011, 08:53 AM
keylime_5 I think Seantrel had a back problem and is out for the season.Oh wow, I think you are right I found an article saying that as well. Huh, well honestly depending on how bad it is a back problem could end his career, much less this season. We will see how he comes back if he is indeed out all year. At least I hope it makes him more hungry, because so far, being an all world offensive tackle in high school, talked about since he was in middle school, clearly cut #1 recruit, former basketball player....he really disappointed in my book. And I hear he dislikes the fact that Shannon got fired, and it could mean he transfers, and that would be three different schools for the guy? That along screams that he is potentially been a pampered player from early on and has not had to work for much at all, and always wants things his way.... Hope he can turn it around.

TheFinisher
09-06-2011, 09:52 AM
Maryland Jr. ILB Demetrius Hartsfield really impressed me last night, every time I was looking for Kenny Tate to make a play it was Hartsfield who was showing up. He totaled 13 Tackles and seemed to always be around the football. He looks like he will be the next stud ILB for the Terps.

Big Bird
09-06-2011, 12:35 PM
Kenny Tate was invisible last night. Very disappointing.

Danny O'Brien is a stud. He throws the ball so effortlessly, his footwork is effortless, everything is just so smooth from him. The moxy the kid has as well is impressive. Looks like he is always in control. Only a RS Soph, and he has complete control of that Offense.

I really still don't see Griffin as much of a Quarterback. If you just stare at the raw stats he looks good, but I wasn't really impressed watching him. Kendall Wright was just dominant that game. On one catch, where Wright was wide open after putting a nice cut on Verrett (TCU Corner), Griffin massively underthrew it, causing Wright to get tackled immediately. He puts some air on it, that's an easy 6. Griffin showed no touch on what should've been an easy 6.

ElectricEye
09-06-2011, 12:40 PM
I'm not really sure how you walked away from the game saying Griffin doesn't have great touch. Maybe on that one throw, sure....but the rest were nearly perfect in regards to timing and putting the ball in the right place. TCU got smoked on verts all night, but it's not like those are easy throws that just anyone can make either.

TheFinisher
09-06-2011, 01:11 PM
Yea not sure how anyone can say Griffin was unimpressive against TCU. He dominated them while staying in the pocket most of the game delivering strike after strike. He looked unstoppable.

ElectricEye
09-06-2011, 02:53 PM
Those weren't "spread" throws either, not all of them anyway. Looks like he can throw the full NFL route tree. I think the question about his mid-range accuracy is fair, but his ball placement on the short stuff, advanced feel, and deep ball accuracy are well on pace with a first round projection right now.


Throw his legs out the door event. He's just a good quarterback.

Duffman57
09-06-2011, 06:54 PM
Oh wow, I think you are right I found an article saying that as well. Huh, well honestly depending on how bad it is a back problem could end his career, much less this season. We will see how he comes back if he is indeed out all year. At least I hope it makes him more hungry, because so far, being an all world offensive tackle in high school, talked about since he was in middle school, clearly cut #1 recruit, former basketball player....he really disappointed in my book. And I hear he dislikes the fact that Shannon got fired, and it could mean he transfers, and that would be three different schools for the guy? That along screams that he is potentially been a pampered player from early on and has not had to work for much at all, and always wants things his way.... Hope he can turn it around.

It would technically be the 3rd team, but its hard to blame him for leaving the first one. The reason he transferred to USC, was because they basically assured him that they there would be no bowl bans/sanctions when there was no evidence for it, and then they got hit with the two year bowl ban, and he was pissed that Kiffin flat out lied to him, and wanted to leave...

Hes kinda got screwed going into two bad situations...

Ozzy
09-06-2011, 11:00 PM
TheFinisher Maryland Jr. ILB Demetrius Hartsfield really impressed me last night, every time I was looking for Kenny Tate to make a play it was Hartsfield who was showing up. He totaled 13 Tackles and seemed to always be around the football. He looks like he will be the next stud ILB for the Terps.I agree, he is an impressive player, I will have to keep an eye on him. However supposedly the coaches think he is a bit of a dog, hard to get him to work hard and keep his level of play consistently at the high level.


Duffman57
It would technically be the 3rd team, but its hard to blame him for leaving the first one. The reason he transferred to USC, was because they basically assured him that they there would be no bowl bans/sanctions when there was no evidence for it, and then they got hit with the two year bowl ban, and he was pissed that Kiffin flat out lied to him, and wanted to leave...

Hes kinda got screwed going into two bad situations..True, those are two bad situations but still, you did not see Robert Woods transfer out of USC, he was a true freshman. Why did Henderson, one thinks they pick a school not only because of the coach but then again look at the age now, players bounce around all over the place if they do not feel they are getting playing time. Will be interesting to see what he does, odd thing is, even if he was not injured I doubt he would start consistently on Miami under Golden. Again thought, I hope he turns it around. Because so far, his career is all hype up to this point...

BigBanger
09-07-2011, 03:59 AM
Didn't really watch too much and didn't take any notes like I usually do ...

Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor - Looked so much like Santanio Holmes, I thought I should mention him. Seems a little immature with all show boating he did after making a play though. Really talented player with some good game speed. Raw, but nice potential.

Cody Glenn, OG, Georgia - Yeah, he's not an offensive tackle. He looked terrible. He looked really slow with really bad technique. Just looked awful at times in pass protection. Positioning, depth, punch (looked like he was grabbing and dropping his hands way too much), dropping his head, bending at the waist ... it was a clinical in negatives. Maybe he improves throughout the season, but everything looked very bad. I had to make sure I was watching the right player he looked so bad. Thought he gave up a couple sacks and had a couple false starts. Didn't look good passing pass rushers off to inside linemen. Awareness was lacking.

Nate Potter, OT, Boise St. - He is what he is. Not a physical specimen. Gets by more on technique and positioning than anything else. Weak at the point of attack and will struggle in pass protection early in his career. Needs to bulk up. Had an okay game. Got jacked up and knocked on his ass one time. I believe he gave up 1 sack as well. Just not an overly impressive player, and doesn't belong in round 1. He's a solid third rounder that needs a little development to overcome his rather slow feet and weak punch / anchor ability.

BrettFavresMember
09-07-2011, 04:01 AM
Watch out for Iowa utility coverage man #4 Jordan Bernstine.

5'11 205 and is said to be the fastest player on the team, and to have a 45" vertical leap.

Had 8 tackles off the bench last week against Tennessee Tech.

Duffman57
09-11-2011, 02:04 AM
True, those are two bad situations but still, you did not see Robert Woods transfer out of USC, he was a true freshman. Why did Henderson, one thinks they pick a school not only because of the coach but then again look at the age now, players bounce around all over the place if they do not feel they are getting playing time. Will be interesting to see what he does, odd thing is, even if he was not injured I doubt he would start consistently on Miami under Golden. Again thought, I hope he turns it around. Because so far, his career is all hype up to this point...

The big difference, IIRC, is that Henderson actually refused to sign his LOI on signing day, to wait for that whole punishment to come down, and only commited when the coaches absolutely promised him that there would be no sanctions against them, or no bowl ban or something like that. Thats the big difference, is that he got flat out lied to and he felt betrayed by USC, so i can see the reason for leaving there.

Duffman57
09-11-2011, 02:21 AM
Couple of guys that i noticed...

Nickell Robey was all over the freaking place. He was just as good as Mathieu was vs. Oregon IMO, same type of player.

Nick Perry was the absolute definition of DOMINANCE. He just made plays in a bazillion different ways. He had 2 pass deflections i think (maybe only 1), he had a sack or two, but he had to have had at least 3-5 pressures, and probably had 2-3 TFLs. He showed close to elite/elite burst off the ball, he showed a variety of moves, could speed rush, bull rush, and had the natural instincts to counter or bend when rushing, and like the first part showed, he had the natural instinct to get his hands up in the passing lane when he didn't get there. He's a monster of a pass rusher, in the mold of Shawne Merriman, pre injury.

Utah has 2 REALLY good DT's.

James Aiono is more potential, but he was a top recruit out of JUCO and has the burst, and strength you want in a DT like him.

But the real star of that D (no pun intended) is Star (Cant remember his last name...lol, it starts with an L though...hahah) somethinorrather. He's your prototypical NT, at 6'3" 325, he had one of the best C's in the NCAA (Holmes) on rollerskates for a good portion of that game. He was an absolute monster in the middle. He's only a Jr. so he proally wont come out, but when he does, i expect big things from him.

rawdawg
09-11-2011, 08:33 PM
Cody Glenn, OG, Georgia - Yeah, he's not an offensive tackle. He looked terrible. He looked really slow with really bad technique. Just looked awful at times in pass protection. Positioning, depth, punch (looked like he was grabbing and dropping his hands way too much), dropping his head, bending at the waist ... it was a clinical in negatives. Maybe he improves throughout the season, but everything looked very bad. I had to make sure I was watching the right player he looked so bad. Thought he gave up a couple sacks and had a couple false starts. Didn't look good passing pass rushers off to inside linemen. Awareness was lacking.


I have let it be known before that I am anti-Glenn. I'm really not sure what people see in him to say he's a 1st round prospect, even at guard. To me, he has always looked a little slow off the ball. He looks fat and sloppy in the midsection. He's not violent with his hands. He's not as technically sound as he should be. I think he has decent feet and great arm length, but to me, he's a 3rd round project at LG in the NFL. Two straight stinkers to start the season, he's clearly not an NFL OT.

Ozzy
09-12-2011, 06:03 PM
Week 2:
*Melvin Ingram SR DE South Carolina: Has always been around the SC program, but has really broken out this year. Shows great athletic ability for a big man, he is thick, strong at the point of attack and is in very good shape and rarely gets tired on the field. If he keeps up this elite play that has come out of no where, he could easily be a 2nd or 3rd round pick I think.


*Isaiah Crowell FR RB Georgia: Huge game for him and played much better than week 1. Quick back, runs hard, makes quick cuts and can catch the ball out of the backfield. Georgia has found themselves a running back that is for sure.


*Jarvis Jones SOPH OLB Georgia: Playing great football for Georgia, former USC recruit is an elite linebacker prospect. Can get after the passer on a blitz, runs well, plays hard and has no issue tackling, he could be an absolutely elite player in one or two years.


*Eric Page JR WR Toledo: Love his feet, great route running ability, solid hands and has open field speed. He could be a star in the NFL and doubt anyone will sleep on him. Perfect slot receiver and could be a very high pick whenever he comes out.


*Emory Blake JR WR Auburn: Solid receiver for them, makes big plays consistently, can get away from coverage and has simple big play ability in the open field.


*Tyler Eifert JR TE Notre Dame: Might need to see him a little more but so far he seems like an really elite player and could be near the same level of talent Kyle Rudolph had a year ago. Big kid, runs well and has very soft hands.


*Bacarri Rambo JR SS Georgia: Shows how much that defense missed him, very good looking safety, hits like a ton of bricks, is active and fast in coverage and can tackle in space, improving prospect game after game.


*Jadeveon Clowney FR DE South Carolina: Not over hyped, bit time speed pass rusher, has great size and great quickness. Can get off the ball fast and has good pass rush moves already as a young player.


*Alshon Jeffery JR WR South Carolina: The kid is not out of shape, makes football seem so easy. So big and physical, is slightly faster and potentially better version of Plaxico Burress who could be better in jump ball situations.






Disappointed
Branden Smith JR CB Georgia: Not a bad player but I expected more out of him than this. Boykin is a better corner for them right now, Smith still has time to improve but has not lived up to the hype when he came into college.

Cornelius Washington JR OLB Georgia: A lot of hype with him, but did not play that hard in the game. Is an ok prospect and one to keep and eye on but go really out played by his teammate Jarvis Jones all game. Big kid, but has a lot to improve on.

Cordy Glenn SR OG Georgia: Hyped up on this site, since he is on the logo and everything now. But he is still a good prospect, but clearly is being played out of position at tackle and gets beat from time to time by speed guys with good pass rush moves. Still could be a beast at guard, just like Mike Pouncey last year and the bad snaps. Glenn is not as good as Pouncey but will over come this bad start I feel. Still has to play better though.

Gary Gray SR CB Notre Dame: Got beat a lot, made very few plays on the ball, awful game for him and shows that his last year at Notre Dame to improve, still is the same player he always was.

M.O.T.H.
09-12-2011, 06:39 PM
Ingram was a beast last year, too. Seeing him make plays is nothing new. The guy had 9 sacks last season.

rawdawg
09-12-2011, 08:55 PM
Looks like you watched the same games I did. I was really impressed with Rambo. He might be a guy that can leave early this year. He has the size, speed, hitting ability and ball skills to have an Earl Thomas like rise up the boards. Not saying he's a top 10 pick like Thomas, but he's a guy that I can see being the 1st safety off the board in the late 1st if he blows up at the combine. Can play both FS and SS at the next level, IMO.

I like Ingram a lot too. He's kinda similar to Charles Johnson in Carolina, but I think he's more naturally talented. Not as tall as you would like out of a 4-3 DE, but he has a very good first step and an array of pass rush moves. I wouldn't be surprised to see if he does follow Johnson's path and gets slept on some in the draft, but he's going to be a good player for someone.

Byrd430
09-13-2011, 12:08 AM
Completely agree with your view of Ingram, rawdawg.

He's just 6'2, and he'll drop down some boards IMO, but he's a playmaker on defense. His latest game against Georgia may have been an eye opener to many fans, but he finished third in the SEC last season with 9 sacks, despite just one start (vs. Southern Miss at that). South Carolina's defensive line with him, Clowney, and Devin Taylor may be among the best in the country.

Hurricanes25
09-13-2011, 01:52 PM
Here are some guys who stood out to me. I paid most of my attention to offense this week.

QB Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
He puts a lot of zip on his passes, a nice quick delivery, and he is mobile enough to get away from the pass rush. Still very raw though.

RB Marcus Lattimore (South Carolina)
Beast. Thats all that needs to be said. The only concern I would have drafting him is the amount of carries this kid has gotten at SCAR.

WR Mohamed Sanu (Rutgers)
Sanu is a potential first round pick. Hes 62, has good hands (check out that 1 handed TD against UNC), good speed for a guy his size and hes willing to go over the middle of the field. He had 13 receptions against UNC.

WR Dwight Jones (North Carolina)
Hes 64 with pretty good speed. Hes able to create separation. He had 135 yards against Rutgers. He is somebody I definitely want to see more of.

WR T.Y Hilton (Florida International)
Hes a speedy playmaker. Hilton can score anytime he gets his hands on the ball. He has had a very nice start to the season with 2 very good games.

WR B.J Cunningham (Michigan State)
He has good size. He is not the fastest guy in the world and he has a little trouble getting separation. However, Cunningham is physical and has good hands.

DE Quinton Coples (North Carolina)
He is very good against the run. I think he projects to LE in the 43 defense in the NFL.

Ozzy
09-13-2011, 04:49 PM
Hurricanes25 Here are some guys who stood out to me. I paid most of my attention to offense this week.

QB Brock Osweiler (Arizona State)
He puts a lot of zip on his passes, a nice quick delivery, and he is mobile enough to get away from the pass rush. Still very raw though. I agree, he it very raw, has a big arm and can throw it deep, but needs to work a lot on his touch. Still impressive physical prospect, huge kid, and a surprisingly good athlete. Athletically in terms of just measurables he is very high up there if just basing things off potential.

RB Marcus Lattimore (South Carolina)
Beast. That’s all that needs to be said. The only concern I would have drafting him is the amount of carries this kid has gotten at SCAR. Everyone knows about him, clearly stud back. Injury issues would be a concern yes, but Adrian Peterson had worse injury and over use issues at Oklahoma and he turned out just fine in the NFL. Lattimore is clearly not as fast but has similar power and leg strength.

WR Mohamed Sanu (Rutgers)
Sanu is a potential first round pick. He’s 6’2, has good hands (check out that 1 handed TD against UNC), good speed for a guy his size and he’s willing to go over the middle of the field. He had 13 receptions against UNC. I agree, he is a very good player

WR Dwight Jones (North Carolina)
He’s 6’4 with pretty good speed. He’s able to create separation. He had 135 yards against Rutgers. He is somebody I definitely want to see more of.

WR T.Y Hilton (Florida International)
He’s a speedy playmaker. Hilton can score anytime he gets his hands on the ball. He has had a very nice start to the season with 2 very good games.

WR B.J Cunningham (Michigan State)
He has good size. He is not the fastest guy in the world and he has a little trouble getting separation. However, Cunningham is physical and has good hands. I like him too, good strength for a receiver and can take a hit, and has been consistently solid on that team for awhile.

DE Quinton Coples (North Carolina)
He is very good against the run. I think he projects to LE in the 43 defense in the NFL.

Ozzy
09-14-2011, 10:28 AM
Week 2:
*Cierre Wood JR RB Notre Dame: Right now he is the most improved player I have seen compared to last year. Much bigger prospect, a lot thicker and still has his quickness he always had. Much improved player and very impressive, solid prospect at this point.


*AJ Cann RS FR OG South Carolina: Stud guard, he should be a star. Very athletic, pulls very well, good athlete, locks onto a defender and does not let him beat the block. Fine prospect and could be a very elite player in a few years.


*Jordan Kovacs JR SS Michigan: Last year he was just a good scrappy player on a awful defense, now he is a star player on a solid defense. Very impressive on the football field, always around the football and has a feel for making big plays, solid safety prospect that is steadily improving.


*Malik Jackson SR DE Tennessee: I love the push he gets in the pocket, gives maximum effort at all times, big kid can play defensive end or defensive tackle. Quick off the ball, he could really rise up the boards come draft day, especially if he shows potential as a 3/4 DE.


*Junior Hemingway SR WR Michigan: What a game he had, running down field all the time making big plays for them. Thick kid, hard to bring down and I like his effort on the field. If he keeps this up he could be a solid NFL prospect.


*Louis Nix III SOPH NT Notre Dame: Possible stud NT, thick as can be, strong, holds his point of attack well. Could be a star player in a few years and is poised to have a breakout season for Notre Dame.


*Brandon Boykin SR CB Georgia: Is out playing his more hyped teammate in Smith. Boykin has always been a star return man, is great at kick returns and now is showing more ability at corner, tackling well and making good aggressive plays on the ball. With his versatility he could be a late round pick.


*Kapron Lewis-Moore SR DE Notre Dame: I love his 3/4 DE potential, good athlete, ideal size for the position and should get a strong look for any team in need of a 3/4 DE.


*Da'Rick Rogers SOPH WR Tennessee: The Vols have two stud receivers, Rogers is very thick and very fast. Like his big size and thick frame, catches the ball effortlessly and will tear up the SEC along with his teammate Justin Hunter. Very good looking young receiver tandem.


*Bruce Figgins SR FB/TE Georgia: Like the potential he is showing at full back, good blocker, very good athlete, makes plays catching the football out of the backfield. Makes his stock a lot higher because he could easily play both positions in the NFL potentially.


*Tyler Bray SOPH QB Tennessee: Was brought up last year, continues to improve and supposedly has improved his on the field leadership vocally as well. Really has a gifted arm and there is nothing to not like about a tall kid that can throw the ball like he can.


*Theo Riddick JR WR Notre Dame: Very solid slot receiver prospect, has big time speed and can easily get seperation from defensive backs. Good quickness, solid hands and is a very interesting prospect that is getting better and better.


*Taylor Lewan SOPH OT Michigan: Developmental prospect, but so far so good for this giant offensive tackle. Absolutely stoned a very good defensive end on Notre Dame. Did not have a perfect game but showed a lot of potential.


*Tauren Poole SR RB Tennessee: Should be a very solid draft pick in the later rounds for an NFL team. Tough kid, runs hard, is tough to bring down and has decent quickness as well. Should be a lock to be drafted come April.


*Isaiah Pead SR RB Cincinnati: Not an elite player, but has very good open field speed and could be a nice third down back potentially. Really fast when he gets in the open field, consistently puts up numbers on Cincinnati and is a decent prospect at this point.


*Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina: I know I already brought him up, but seriously, the kid might easily be the best speed pass rusher in the nation right now. Just shoots off the ball and gets right in the backfield like no other at this point, amazing looking prospect.






Disappointed
Stephon Gilmore JR CB South Carolina: Missed some tackles, did not make many big plays, looks almost stiff out there. Really disappointing, as a freshman he played much better football but now with the expectations he is falling flat, hope he turns it around.

Walter Stewart RS JR OLB/DE Cincinnati: Really disappointed in his development, might be playing out of position however. He cannot get off blocks as a down DE, he gets pushed around too easy and cannot make the corner at all as a speed rusher. Should be put back as a OLB off the line of scrimmage, because he is getting crushed at the line, hope he improves his play, tall fine athlete but just needs to get stronger.

Kwame Geathers SOPH DT Georgia: About as over hyped 6-6 350 NT as you can find, does not make many plays at all, does not hold his position well and really has very skinny legs for someone that big. Only a sophomore but so far not impressed with him, considering his size.

DeVonte Holloman JR SS/OLB South Carolina: Wish he was more productive but is not, is playing a spur position for them and rotating with Allen. Makes some plays but not as productive as he should be considering his talent.

Mike Martin Michigan SR DT Michigan: Still a solid prospect but really looks small out there. Gives good effort, but might not be physically strong and thick enough to get through solid offensive lines. Will see what happens, but is looking less impressive than he did two years ago.




Duffman Nick Perry was the absolute definition of DOMINANCE. He just made plays in a bazillion different ways. He had 2 pass deflections i think (maybe only 1), he had a sack or two, but he had to have had at least 3-5 pressures, and probably had 2-3 TFLs. He showed close to elite/elite burst off the ball, he showed a variety of moves, could speed rush, bull rush, and had the natural instincts to counter or bend when rushing, and like the first part showed, he had the natural instinct to get his hands up in the passing lane when he didn't get there. He's a monster of a pass rusher, in the mold of Shawne Merriman, pre injury.Really, he did not really show up much against Minnesota the week before? Who was he going against on Utah? Did he go against Cullen? Anyway, good to see he played well, he is an elite talent, just does not always show up game in and game out.

rawdawg
09-14-2011, 05:52 PM
Coaches said Gilmore played his worst game as a Gamecock Week 1. Well, they probably aren't happy with Week 2 either. I missed the Week 1 game, but he was a non-factor vs. Georgia. Still really like him as a Cover 2 CB prospect.

Say that Boykin "might be a late round pick"? I have him as a 3rd rounder right now. This site has him as the 4th best senior CB. You can maybe put 5 juniors ahead of him also (Kirkpatrick, Claiborne, Gilmore, Harris, Hosley), but that's it. Throw in that he may out run all of them at the combine, I think he could go as high as late 2nd.

Ozzy
09-15-2011, 08:35 AM
rawdawg Coaches said Gilmore played his worst game as a Gamecock Week 1. Well, they probably aren't happy with Week 2 either. I missed the Week 1 game, but he was a non-factor vs. Georgia. Still really like him as a Cover 2 CB prospect.

Say that Boykin "might be a late round pick"? I have him as a 3rd rounder right now. This site has him as the 4th best senior CB. You can maybe put 5 juniors ahead of him also (Kirkpatrick, Claiborne, Gilmore, Harris, Hosley), but that's it. Throw in that he may out run all of them at the combine, I think he could go as high as late 2nd.Well here are corners I would take over Boykin at this point, thus the late round pick comment. He has return ability and sure it does depth on who goes out, but guys like Greg Reid, Cliff Harris, Hayron Hosley, Greg McCoy have just as good return ability if not better! Thus that is why I said what I did, but who knows maybe a lot of these guys will not go out, but I doubt it.

Xavier Rhodes Florida State RS SOPH
Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama JR
Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska
Morris Claiborne LSU JR
Stephon Gilmore South Carolina JR
Jayron Hosley Virgina Tech JR
Greg Reid Florida State JR
Cliff Harris Oregon JR
Donnie Fletcher Boston College
Chase Minnifield Virginia
Mike Harris Florida St.
Janoris Jenkins Florida
Terrence Frederick Texas A&M


Brandon Boykin Georgia


One could argue taking any of these corners over Boykin as well:
Randall Burden Kentucky
Troy Stoudermire Minnesota
Greg McCoy TCU


As for Gilmore, maybe one is expecting too much from him, I expected him to be hands down the top corner, and I guess just disappointed he is not developed into that. Still good player you are right but not the best at the position anymore.

Ozzy
09-18-2011, 10:32 PM
Week 3:
*Lamar Miller RS SOPH RB Miami FL: Easily had one of the biggest breakout games of any player, putting together a complete game and a big performance. Showed real potential as a powerful runner that can breakout into the open field and make huge plays. If he keeps this up he could easily be the 2nd running back taken in the draft this year potentially.


*Christian Jones SOPH ILB Florida State: Just physically speaking, the kid is a monster. Huge arms, all of his limbs look like tree trunks, really long arms. A really fine looking athlete, tackles well, seems comfortable in space as well, will be interesting to see how he develops, he could be a great one.


*Javon Harris JR FS Oklahoma: Possible had the best game of any player on that Oklahoma defense, had two very key interceptions, amazing catches on both of them. Hit really hard as well, had very important impact plays in that game. Have not heard of him before but is one to watch out for now.


*Jonathan Cooper JR OG UNC: Stud guard, part of a very talented UNC offensive line. Was pulling non stop it seemed during that Virginia game, very athletic player, thick, built well, runs well, athletic and can hit. Really talented player and could be part of a group of really elite junior guards.


*Cameron Fleming RS FR OT Stanford: Another fine Stanford offensive line prospect. Hold over from Haurbaugh's signings but the kid is a stud, athletic, big wing span, should follow right in line with Jonathan Martin and be the next great Stanford offensive tackle.


*Levine Toilolo JR TE Stanford: Where do they find these guys, a legit 6-8 tight end with speed. Another fine tight end for this school, had really big plays against Arizona and showed a lot of ability. Good looking young player.


*Kendrick Adams SR DE LSU: Was a real force off the edge, aggressive rushing the passer and played with very good effort. But Miss State had missing offensive lineman in that game, but if he keeps up that kind of pressure consistently in the SEC his stock could really rise fast.


*Nigel Bradham SR OLB Florida State: Is a monster of a linebacker, massive arms, just a physical beast. Consistent on the field, makes plays, can hold a block and get off blocks, could easily be a late 1st or early 2nd round pick in the draft. Really elite physical talent.


*Anthony Johnson FR DT LSU: Possible next great LSU DT, thick, quick and can get off the ball. Has a compact frame, strong arms and with more playing time he could really turn into something great.


*Brandon Taylor SR SS LSU: Looks a lot stronger than last year, bigger and much more physical it seems as well. Playing very good football, making plays and is part of that stellar LSU secondary.


*Jonathan Banks JR CB Miss State: Big long corner, like the athletic ability he showed as a cover man, can tackle from time to time pretty well also. Would be wise to come back for his senior season but is a decent prospect.


*Tom Wort SOPH OLB Oklahoma: Outstanding football game, all over the field, tackled aggressively. Was very quick to the ball and even tipped a pass, went after it and caught it for an interception. Really breakout game for him.


*Brandon Washington JR OT Miami FL: Showing that he is an elite offensive lineman and could be a fine OT or OG at the next level. Good athlete, powerful player that can move people, could come out this year and be no worse than a late 2nd round pick potentially.



Other notables.....
*Eric Reid SOPH SS LSU
*Odell Beckham FR WR LSU
*Brennan Williams JR OT UNC
*Rodney McLeod SR SS Virginia
*Andrew Datko SR OT Florida State
*Bjoern Werner SOPH DE Florida State
*Brandon Maye Miss State*

rawdawg
09-19-2011, 07:00 AM
No love for Marcus Lattimore? Also thought Harrison Smith looked pretty good. And I know they are elite prospects already, but Matt Kalil and Matt Barkley have been amazing all season. Probably have to be the #2 and 3 picks at this point. Kalil is getting "Joe Thomas good".

Babylon
09-19-2011, 11:27 AM
Agree with the Oz on Tom Wort and would argue he may have had the best game of any defender on the field. At what looks like about 5'11" and about 225 i dont care for him as a lb but he'd make a heck of a safety. Sort of gives you that John Lynch look out there (Stanford version) and clearly has more speed than the former pro bowler.

rawdawg
09-20-2011, 07:30 PM
In response to the Hot List, I'm a big fan of Prater. And I will admit he was abused vs. Pitt. I thought he was a lot more disciplined than that. He got caught on a couple trick plays. Then he was caught flatfooted on basic sideline routes. I still think he can be a Cover 2 starter, who plays off in coverage and can sit back and watch the QB like he likes to do and come up and make plays.

TuckNole
09-20-2011, 07:47 PM
No love for Marcus Lattimore? Also thought Harrison Smith looked pretty good. And I know they are elite prospects already, but Matt Kalil and Matt Barkley have been amazing all season. Probably have to be the #2 and 3 picks at this point. Kalil is getting "Joe Thomas good".

Wouldn't touch Lattimore with a 10 ft pole. He'll have the touches of a 27 year old by the time he comes out.

rawdawg
09-20-2011, 08:47 PM
Wouldn't touch Lattimore with a 10 ft pole. He'll have the touches of a 27 year old by the time he comes out.

You'd risk missing out on a star then. The following players have led the NCAA in carries in a season in the last 10 years:

LaDanian Tomlinson
Steven Jackson
Adrian Peterson
Ray Rice

Those 4 plus Forte and Michael Turner had 335+ carry seasons in their last year in college. Cedric Benson and DeAngelo Williams are top 5 in the last decade in carries. Williams hasn't been the model of health, but he is considerably smaller than everyone on this list (other than Rice)....and the team that Lattimore wouldn't be disappointed with Williams like production for a few years.

Ozzy
09-20-2011, 09:57 PM
Week 3:
*Sammy Watkins FR WR Clemson: Wow, simply put. The kid is a star, makes decisive moves on the field, knows where he is going. Makes quick lighting fast cuts, is very smooth running after the catch and protects the ball very well. Much less has no real issue taking a hit or getting a ball in traffic. A real big time receiver prospect and should be a total star in the future.


*Brandon Thompson SR DT Clemson: Have not seen much of him before this year, but this year he is really standing out in my book. Had a great game, not a huge defensive tackle but gets off the ball and can get after the quarterback. At one point, in a three man line he was triple teamed by Auburn. Very disruptive force in the middle and could easily be the second DT taken in the draft potentially.


*Dwayne Allen RS JR TE Clemson: Nice to see a big game out of him, very nice to see. Underused most of his career so far. But this game he showed big play making ability and showed off his great athletic skills. Could be the first tight end taken in the draft without question.


*Spencer Long SOPH OG Nebraska: A walk on for "Nebraska, but he is turning out to be quite the player. Totally stone walled a highly ranked NT for Washington in that game, big kid, thick and does not get pushed around. Should develop nicely and be a fine guard prospect in the future.


*Austin Seferian-Jenkins FR TE Washington: Nothing amazing about this, he is a potential star, many can see that. Great size at tight end, good athlete, can get down field and catch the ball. If he continues to improve and get better over the next few years he should be a fine tight end prospect.


*Jermarcus Hardrick SR OT Nebraska: Will be a developmental draft pick based on his great size and arm length. Still has a lot to improve on, but is a very fine prospect to work on at offensive tackle. Has a lot of raw athletic ability and physical size.


*Tajh Boyd SOPH QB Clemson: I was impressed with him, put air under the ball so his receivers can make a play, has a big time arm and throws the ball effortlessly. Tough in the pocket, willing to take a hit, mobile but looks down field to make plays. Solid player and could be a good one in time.


*Jermaine Kearse SR WR Washington: Not a star receiver but is very solid. Catches the ball smoothly, away from his body, has good body control and can go up and high point a ball. Not great speed but has decent size and could be a late round draft pick if he works out well.


*Malliciah Goodman JR DE Clemson: Another solid defensive lineman for them. Gets good pressure off the edge, quick off the ball and provides a solid push all game long.


*Ameer Abdullah FR RB Nebraska: Kick return specialist, still has trouble handling the ball though. But his open field speed is sick and being so good so young, he could really turn into a fine return man and 3rd down back potentially. Very interesting prospect to watch.



Disappointed:
Rashard Hall JR FS Clemson: Was a big fan of his, but he had a bad game, made very little impact and was slow on rotation with a few plays. Looked more promising as a young freshman back there. Could be just a bad game but based off that one, not pleased with his progress or lack there of.

Sean Fisher JR OLB Nebraska: He should be starting by now, no reason why he is not other than sub par play. Physical kid, has good size, is tough, but clearly is missing something to still not see consistent field action. Hope he turns it around and uses all of his physical ability to play better in the future.





rawdawg
You'd risk missing out on a star then. The following players have led the NCAA in carries in a season in the last 10 years:

LaDanian Tomlinson
Steven Jackson
Adrian Peterson
Ray Rice

Those 4 plus Forte and Michael Turner had 335+ carry seasons in their last year in college. Cedric Benson and DeAngelo Williams are top 5 in the last decade in carries. Williams hasn't been the model of health, but he is considerably smaller than everyone on this list (other than Rice)....and the team that Lattimore wouldn't be disappointed with Williams like production for a few years.I agree, Lattimore is a stud and carries is not a huge issue I do not think. In terms of mentioning him, well look back at this thread from 2010, he was talked about quite often and is clearly an established star even before this year. Very talented player.

ToldLikeItIs
09-21-2011, 11:47 AM
Iowa guys to keep an eye on:

WR Keenan Davis
6'3 220
10 catches 129 yards, 1 TD last week

SS Jordan Bernstine
5'11 210
8 Tackle, 2 TFL last week

WLB Christian Kirksey
6'2 220
31 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 FF on year so far

QB James Vandenberg
6'3 220
800 passing yards, 8 TD, 1 INT on year so far

BuddyCHRIST
09-21-2011, 12:22 PM
FSU will have a ton of draft picks on defense in the next few years.

Your write ups on Bradham and Jones are spot on. Bradham has really taken another leap this year, a very steady player who has turned into a big time vocal leaders and is a physical specimen. Had some stiffness issues but has really worked through that. Excellent tackler and plays well in space as well as downhill. Can play any LB position at the next level too.

Jones will be an elite prospect when he comes out imo, one of those guys you just notice on the field. He was always making plays when he was on the field last year and is a monster this year. Ridiculous physical ability and has super long arms. Plays much better in space and a better form tackler than I ever would have thought. Could even project to 3-4 OLB ala Clay Matthews.

Werner was flat out dominating OU, he might not have the fastest 40 but he plays like a young Michael Strahan.

Ozzy
09-25-2011, 11:24 PM
Week 4:

*Todd Thomas FR OLB Pitt: Really impressed with his overall speed on the field. Lined up at slot corner at times against Notre Dame. Fast linebacker, great on the blitz, gives good effort and appears to have taken senior Greg Williams position, or at least is playing ahead of him a lot. Very talented player and I was real impressed with that Pitt defense.


*Giovani Bernard FR RB UNC: Possible stud running back, could be a great player in college and a decent change of pace guy in the NFL. Very small but tough, hard to bring down, look for big things out of him.


*Cameron Erving FR DT Florida State: Played big time football, got pressure and was one of the few Noles to do so. Really got through the offensive line a few times, wide body, sky is the limit for him.


*Brodrick Brown JR CB Oklahoma State: Played a great game in coverage. Really stuck to his made, made aggressive plays on the ball and showed good speed in the open field. He is one to watch as well as that entire Oklahoma State defense, I want to see more of them.


*Mike Glennon JR QB NC State: Team lost, but one could argue he has one of the three top arms in college football right now. Big time talent, but has to put it all together. Is slowly getting better but at this point he still has a lot to work on in terms of being a leader and being the 'guy' at quarterback.


*DeMarcus Milliner SOPH CB Alabama: Much improved over last year, tackles much more aggressively, plays instinctive and was a big difference maker for them on defense.


*Darius Fleming SR OLB Notre Dame: Watch out for him in the draft, set a hard edge as a 3/4 OLB. Tough kid, holds the point of attack and would be a perfect backup/starter in any 3/4 defense in the NFL. Very promising prospect.


*Geno Smith JR QB West Virginia: Have not been a huge fan of his, but he did show a lot against a superior LSU defense. Has a quick release, is not a run first quarterback at all, pure pocket guy. Nice arm, improving leader, come his senior year he could be a top flight quarterback if he keeps on improving like he is.


*Travis Hughes FR OLB UNC: Took the place of Zach Brown who was suspended for that game. Made plays all over the field, athletic linebacker that can get into the backfield. Showed good speed and could be a nice one in a few years.


*Collin Klein JR RB/QB Kansas State: Forget Tim Tebow, one could argue this guy is just as tough as he was running the football. Plays in a pure option offense, has decent speed as a runner and just will no go down, amazing toughness and could find his way in the NFL just because of that.


*Trevor Robinson SR OG Notre Dame: I like his size, like his length and is a good solid guard. Nice athlete, blocks well down field and is a good mid round prospect.


*TJ Graham SR WR NC State: Could be a steal for a team late but could be drafted early because of his speed. Great return man, one of the fastest players around that is for sure. Improving receiver that many teams will take a long look at.


*Dont'a Hightower SR OLB Alabama: Is in much better shape compared to last season. Has that burst again, all over the field, much better condition. That could really help his stock and he could be a really high pick if he keeps this up.


*Tavon Austin JR WR West Virginia: Hard to argue against that quickness. Super quick with the ball in his hands, hard to take down and is a pure playmaker all over the field.


*Phillip Price SR OT Clemson: Tough kid, played well, is one to watch in the draft. Might be a late pick but kid played well against a fine Florida State front four.


*Marqise Lee FR WR USC: One to watch for, is a smooth athlete, quick, can get open and could be a difference maker in the future at receiver.

Duffman57
09-25-2011, 11:35 PM
No love for LaMichael?

288 yards on 23 carries with 2 TD's last night...

Halsey
09-26-2011, 12:21 AM
Isaiah Crowell is going to be the best RB prospect since at least Barry Sanders. His physical gifts rival Herschel Walker. I can easily see him being the first RB to go #1 overall since KiJana Carter.

Ok, not really. He's actually overrated garbage. WAAAY more overrated than Knowshon Moreno. I don't think he'll even go in the top 6 rounds.

SolidGold
09-26-2011, 07:34 AM
Nick Foles has put together a good season and in a muddled group of Senior QBs he is quietly rising to the top of it.

Big Bird
09-26-2011, 10:48 AM
Mohammed Sanu was uncoverable against Ohio. I say that because even when he was covered, he found a way to catch the ball.

TheFinisher
09-26-2011, 11:07 AM
Devon Still has been beasting week in and week out for PSU.

Big Bird
09-26-2011, 12:07 PM
Devon Still has been beasting week in and week out for PSU.
He's establishing himself as a potential 1st Rounder. Ideal 5-Tech, though he would do well inside a 4-3 as well. Reminds me a lot of Odrick.

Hurricanes25
09-26-2011, 03:57 PM
*Giovani Bernard FR RB UNC: Possible stud running back, could be a great player in college and a decent change of pace guy in the NFL. Very small but tough, hard to bring down, look for big things out of him.

I've seen him play twice now and I've come away impressed both times. He's a RS freshman so he could be somebody to look out for next year.

Mohammed Sanu was uncoverable against Ohio. I say that because even when he was covered, he found a way to catch the ball.

Sanu is incredible. He is still flying under the radar, somehow.

rawdawg
09-26-2011, 07:19 PM
Week 4:


*Geno Smith JR QB West Virginia: Have not been a huge fan of his, but he did show a lot against a superior LSU defense. Has a quick release, is not a run first quarterback at all, pure pocket guy. Nice arm, improving leader, come his senior year he could be a top flight quarterback if he keeps on improving like he is.



I like Geno Smith a lot. I was impressed with him last year, but this year he seems to have taken his game to the next level. He reads the whole field, can make every throw, throws very accurately for the most part, and as you said he's taken on a leadership role. Mathieu made an amazing play on the 2nd INT, and Geno came out in the 2nd half and brought his team back into the game until the KO return ended it. I think he's a potential first round pick if he stays his last year (don't know why he wouldn't).

Ozzy
09-27-2011, 08:00 AM
Halsey Isaiah Crowell is going to be the best RB prospect since at least Barry Sanders. His physical gifts rival Herschel Walker. I can easily see him being the first RB to go #1 overall since KiJana Carter.

Ok, not really. He's actually overrated garbage. WAAAY more overrated than Knowshon Moreno. I don't think he'll even go in the top 6 rounds.
Really, he is not that awful of a prospect. I actually like the way he runs the football, very solid looking prospect and one of the better freshman running backs in the country. But sure if one expects him to be actually Herschel Walker, which he could have been hyped as that type of talent, then yes you are disappointed.

That is why it is smart not to listen to high school rankings that much, pay attention but not that close of attention. If one listened to those rankings, they would also think Seantrel Henderson is the best offensive lineman ever and is just as good as Orlando Pace....clearly not the case...

Ozzy
10-02-2011, 10:55 PM
Week 5:
*Ray Graham JR RB Pitt: Really fine game in a prime time performance, he is starting to show that yes he might be much better than Dion Lewis was. Big time game breaking speed, impressive quickness, can make you miss, take a hit, small guy but tough, he stock is skyrocketing.


*Dominique Easley SOPH DT Florida: Huge DT talent for Florida, got into the backfield at will at times against a great offensive line for Alabama. Could be a huge pass rushing tackle and an elite talent in no time at all.


*Courtney Upshaw SR OLB Alabama: Flat out elite, and made the case as being the #1 3/4 OLB in the up coming draft easily. His ability to get low and around the corner brings up thoughts of one James Harrison. Almost a fact he is gone after the 1st round.


*Jarius Wright SR WR Arkansas: What a game for him, surrounded by big time receiver talent at Arkansas but he breaks out with a monster game. Looks uncoverable. Big time speed in the open field, really impressive performance.


*Robert Turbin JR RB Utah State: Bull as a running back, huge kid, very thick and very fast in the open field. Tough player, not a classic running back and runs out of the shotgun a lot, but still interesting talent on a usually not so talented football team.


*Chance Warmack JR OG Alabama: Played a great game against Florida, made a lot of very key blocks that broke big runs. Last year he kind of struggled but this year he is showing he is a very solid guard and has a chance to play at the next level.


*Uona Kaveinga JR OLB BYU: A USC transfer, big kid, impressive pass rusher off the edge, can hold up against the run well and is a good athlete overall. Could be a very solid prospect come his senior season, already shows great playmaking ability at linebacker.


*John Simon JR DE Ohio State: Has always been a good player, ever since he was a freshman. Now he is starting to get noticed more, very impressive lineman that can get after the quarterback and play consistently aggressive football, easily their best defensive lineman and arguably best defensive prospect.


*Corey Lemonier SOPH DE Auburn: Has an odd way he plays the game, stands upright a lot and does not get real low, but is a thick kid, good athlete and got good consistent pressure off the edge and caused problems for SC. Was playing against an inexperienced player, but still showed potential as a pass rusher.


*AJ Jenkins SR WR Illinois: Another breakout game for him, very explosive athlete and is putting it all together this season. Attacks the ball and goes and gets it, can break big plays in the open field and is improving his stock.


*Cory King SOPH OG Pitt: Played very well, made a lot of key blocks for Pitt that sprung a lot of big runs. Moves well on the field and is an athletic lineman that should only get better with time.


*William Gholston SOPH DE Michigan State: Great to see him play up to his potential in a big game. Massive man and with productive play on the field he could be a crazy high draft pick with his athletic size and skills as a pass rusher.


*James Gayle SOPH DE Virgina Tech: Impressed with his quickness off the edge as a pass rusher, has a good variety of moves and knows how to stay off blockers as well.


*AJ McCarron SOPH QB Alabama: Crazy impressive in the Swamp, not an experienced quarterback but plays like a fifth year senior. Tall, long arms, manages the game and could become another great Bama leader at QB.


*Jared Abbrederis SOPH WR Wisconsin: Big time receiver, tough, catches it over the middle, has good enough hands to be a return man as well. He will be an NFL receiver when it is all said and done, very promising young player.


*Quinterrius Eatmon FR OT South Florida: Massive freshman to keep an eye on, the kid is huge and can play a little bit as well.


*Andre Debose SOPH WR Florida: Great to see him actually be productive on Florida. Big time talent with big time speed, finally starting to produce on little on the field, see if he can keep it up.

Giantsfan1080
10-02-2011, 11:00 PM
Why do you never mention Sanu?

M.O.T.H.
10-03-2011, 12:43 AM
Should have mentioned Melvin Ingram again...it's becoming a weekly thing. He was just a monster on Saturday. 9 tackles, 6 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, an INT, a fumble recovery for a TD.

wogitalia
10-03-2011, 12:58 AM
Andre Branch looked beastly for Clemson against VT, was just abusing their tackles on the outside.

Also really like Bellamy for Clemson, little bit skinny at the moment but give him a couple of offseasons in the gym and he looks like he could be dangerous. Had an absolutely sick cut.

TACKLE
10-03-2011, 01:12 AM
Should have mentioned Melvin Ingram again...it's becoming a weekly thing. He was just a monster on Saturday. 9 tackles, 6 tackles for loss, 3.5 sacks, an INT, a fumble recovery for a TD.

legendary performance by ingram.

Ozzy
10-09-2011, 07:49 AM
Week 6:
*Jonathan Hankins SOPH DT Ohio State: What a game he played, noticed him against Miami, but against Nebraska he was all over the field, a 350 pound defensive lineman running downfield for tackles all night. Showed great conditioning level for a man his size, very impressive athlete with solid strength and ability to get off the ball. Outstanding game and possibly an elite talent for the Buckeyes.


*Stanley Jean-Baptiste SOPH CB Nebraska: Could be his breakout moment on Nebraska, a former receiver converted to a corner recently. Tall kid, 6-3 if not bigger, can run like the wind and has natural pass coverage skills. If he keeps up and listens to the coaching he is getting he could be a flat out sick corner prospect, well done so far by the Nebraska coaches making this switch.


*Geraldo Boldewijn SOPH WR Boise State: Could be a star receiver, ridiculous athletic talent, big, strong, runs well, long arms. Could be a great player if he puts his mind to it, very promising prospect.


*Rex Burkhead JR RB Nebraska: Played a ridiculous game, showed all that you want in a NFL back. Can catch the ball out of the backfield, can make you miss in the open field or run over you. Is a solid blocker and is willing to block, has decent speed and big play ability. Just a complete running back and he is getting better and better.


*Bradley Roby FR CB Ohio State: Spoke too soon on Ohio state in the past, they are talented, a lot more than I thought and have a lot more defensive talent than I though. Roby should be the best corner on the team, young freshman but is very sound in how he plays the game.


*Keenan Allen SOPH WR Cal: Elite receiver talent, tall, quick, good hands, can make plays after the catch and attacks the football, no waiting for it to come to him. Very solid player and one of the better ones in that talented class of receivers.


*Cyrus Kouandjio FR OT Alabama: Know why he is so highly rated, looks amazing on the football field physically, looks just like an elite talent. Big arms, good frame. Not a dominating blocker yet but has the strength and athletic ability and in time he could become a flat out great player for Alabama.


*Christian Bryant SOPH CB Ohio State: Great tackler, hits hard, runs well, still needs work in pass coverage at times but his aggression tackling is what to get excited about. Not sure he can play strong safety in the NFL or not, ideally a slot corner but might have to become a safety possibly.


*Jamar Taylor JR CB Boise State: Made one of the best interceptions I have ever seen, getting better and better each game and is quickly rising up that list of junior class corners. Very good player.


*Isi Sofele JR RB Cal: Tough little running back, built like a brick wall, thick, hard to bring down yet very fast in the open field and quick. Great chance of pace back or 3rd down back potentially. One to watch out for in a long line of solid Cal running backs.


*Andrew Sweat SR OLB Ohio State: Rising up the draft boards, great strong side linebacker for the middle of the draft. Consistent, tackles well, good getting off blocks, just a safe bet.


*Kevin Koger SR TE Michigan: Quietly having a very good season, good athlete, big kid, runs well, can stretch the field and block at times. Good late round potential as a tight end at the next level.


*Brandin Hawthorne JR ILB Michigan: Athletic kid, looks great, strong, runs well, should develop into a fine linebacker at Michigan and is becoming one of the leaders and big playmakers on that defense.


*Michael Bennett FR DT Ohio State: Solid you player for them, good athlete, gets good push up the middle and gains penetration, could develop into a good player down the line.

Ozzy
10-11-2011, 11:53 AM
Week 6:
*Casey Walker JR NT Oklahoma: Another elite level talent at defensive tackle for Oklahoma. Walker, built low to the ground, gets good push, plays with good leverage and would be a fine potential NT in the NFL, promising player.


*Corey Nelson SOPH SS/OLB Oklahoma: Really interesting player, plays outside linebacker in a safeties body, gets off blocks really well, fights them off constantly and makes tackles. Good athlete and could be a fine SS in the NFL if he has the pass coverage ability, if not could gain some weight and be a solid outside linebacker potentially. Really interesting prospect and very rare his abilities at his size.


*Frank Alexander SR DE OU: Could argue he is one of the most improved players so far this season. Really playing well for Oklahoma, fast off the ball, long arms, has good pass rush moves and conditioning. Very fine prospect and is rising fast up the DE draft class.



*Jamell Fleming SR CB Oklahoma: Where did they get him from, another fine corner on their roster. Takes on blocks very well, has active hands and is stout at the corner. Can run defend very well because of this, and is improving in pass coverage, a very good second tear corner for the up coming draft.


*Dominique Whaley JR RB Oklahoma: Another player, comes out of no where, has star potential. Runs smooth, effortlessly, quick, has long strides and can take a hit. Very impressive runner who with another year would be a fine prospect.


*Jaz Reynolds SOPH WR Oklahoma: The next Ryan Broyles, fast, quick, long arms, gets seperation in the open field and can make plays after the catch. Very good receiver prospect for them.


*Ronnell Lewis JR OLB/DE Oklahoma: Playing better and better, so strong with his hands, gets off blocks well, is thick and very built. An ideal 3/4 OLB potentially, powerful player.


*Alex Okafor JR DE Texas: One of the few bright spots for Texas, good athlete, gets off the ball quickly and shows good pass rushing potential.





Disappointed
Keenan Robinson SR OLB Texas: I used to kind of like him, but he is not playing very well for Texas, is not very tough, fast but does not get off blocks. He needs to improve his play a lot to even be considered in the NFL. Not as intense or productive as he was years previous.

Blake Gideon SR FS Texas: Ok safety but not what he should be, was an interception machine early in his career, now he seems a step slow a lot of the time, improved tackle but might not be as quick as he needs to be.

ncst8fan83
10-11-2011, 01:04 PM
What do you think about David Amerson? CB from NC State. He's a sophomore. 34 tackles, 6 int, and 9 pbu on the year. 6'3" 194#. Plays the field CB spot so he can run well and tackle in space. Thoughts/prayers?

Ozzy
10-12-2011, 01:31 PM
ncst8fan83 What do you think about David Amerson? CB from NC State. He's a sophomore. 34 tackles, 6 int, and 9 pbu on the year. 6'3" 194#. Plays the field CB spot so he can run well and tackle in space. Thoughts/prayers?Those are some amazing statistics, however when I have watched NC State this year no real player outside of Audie Cole made a huge impression on me. Will watch for Amerson more next time I see them play. Really depends on if the guy can tackle aggressively or not, that is why I have Tony Jefferson rated so high, because he can both play the pass and be a wonderful tackler.

MaxV
10-13-2011, 02:00 PM
True Freshman Penn State CB Adrian Amos has been really impressive.

Ozzy
10-16-2011, 05:28 PM
Week 7:
*Brock Osweiler JR QB Arizona State: Very impressive prospect that is getting better and better. Already has a better release than some more experienced quarterbacks. Gets rid of the ball quickly, huge man, just flat out massive, great athlete though, former basketball player. If he comes back for his senior year he could sky rocket up the charts. And with big name QBs coming out possibly this year, he could be in the conversation for being a top 5 pick if he keeps on improving in 2013, has the potential to grow to that point I feel.


*Earl Okine JR DE Florida: What a freak, huge kid, 6-7, gets off the ball well, quick and solid as an athlete. Part of a very deep and very talented Florida defensive line, he is one of the better prospects out of all of them potentially. Had a good game against Auburn.


*DaJohn Harris SR DT USC: Overall not a dominating career, but has impressed a lot this year, big, thick, quick, gets after the passer and gets penetration. In a weak defensive tackle class, if he plays well he could get close to being the 1st or 2nd defensive tackle taken, that is if he keeps up his high level of production.


*Mike Willie SR WR Arizona State: Sneaking receiver, will be a player come the 2012 draft. Athletic, strong upper and lower body, catches the ball well, reminds me of a Mike Williams from Syracuse type of receiver.


*Devon Kennard JR DE/ OLB USC: Now moved to defensive end, playing great football. Is an elite 3/4 OLB prospect and is playing great rushing the passer. Could be really increasing his stock showing the ability to play that position.


*DeAnthony Thomas FR WR Oregon: A lot of people like him more than I do, but hard to argue with his quickness and speed in the open field. Really a threat with the ball in his hands, just not sure yet how that will translate to the NFL because he does not have the power or overall athletic strength of a Percy Harvin I feel, doubt he could ever put on that amount of muscle. We will see how he progresses.


*Trevor Reilly SOPH OLB Utah: One to watch out for, has ideal size for a 3/4 OLB, very productive player, supposedly leads the nation in tackles for a loss. Very productive and is one to keep and eye on.


*Hayes Pullard FR OLB USC: Young player, but playing well, quick to the ball, tackles well and is all over the field. Will be interesting to watch his development and can already see the improvement with him on the field more and Kennard moving to DE.


*Damontre Moore SOPH OLB Texas A&M: Another 3/4 OLB prospect, had a fine game against Baylor, really got after the passer and made it rough back there. Good athlete, long wing span and could develop into a fine player.


*Sharrif Floyd SOPH DT Florida: Another talented Florida defensive lineman, shows good quickness and power. Consistent pass rusher that gets good push off the line.


*Jordan Reed SOPH TE Florida: Could be a good tight end when it is all said and done. Big kid, strong hands, good athlete that can get down field and catch the football. With time he could be a solid tight end prospect potentially.



True Freshman Penn State CB Adrian Amos has been really impressive.He has been pretty good, I have been impressed with the overall Penn State defense and there improvement. Redd is a very impressive running back also, very strong and hard to bring down. I like how Hodges has improved his game, as with Powell at corner. Khairi Fortt I wish got more playing time, has a lot to prove with that number, but he is real athletic and has potential. Astorino really impressed against Iowa, he made a lot of big plays and was sound in coverage. And Still is clearly playing great for them. Wish Bolden was the all time starter, but sadly none of those two really seperate themselves from one another, Bolden has better on the field presence I feel, but McGloin makes more big plays in the passing game.

MaxV
10-16-2011, 09:03 PM
Both Penn State QBs suck. Jay Paterno has already botched Bolden's development. That position really drags the whole team down.

And Silas Redd isn't the only RB that might have a future on the next level. Curtis Dukes is really talented also. 6'-1" 240 with good quickness and speed.

SolidGold
10-16-2011, 10:25 PM
Both Penn State QBs suck. Jay Paterno has already botched Bolden's development. That position really drags the whole team down.

And Silas Redd isn't the only RB that might have a future on the next level. Curtis Dukes is really talented also. 6'-1" 240 with good quickness and speed.

I think Bolden was botched already. Its pretty amazing they are 5-1.

ToldLikeItIs
10-17-2011, 07:33 AM
Alright Ozzy, you haven't put ONE Hawkeye in your standouts yet this entire year.

What gives?

Ozzy
10-18-2011, 07:56 AM
ToldLikeItIs Alright Ozzy, you haven't put ONE Hawkeye in your standouts yet this entire year.

What gives?Because at this point, no one new has really stood out to me. Maybe could make the case for Dominic Alvis, but I have to see more from him, and same with Tanner Miller. Those two have shown potential but again I probably have to see more of them. All the rest stood out last year and impressed, just not many new guys for them I guess.

Coker impressed last year and is on the radar, Micah Hyde is flat out playing absolutely great football and I love him at corner, big time prospect. Jordan Bernstine at safety is interesting and McNutt is playing solid, has a better chance in the NFL than DJK did. Someone last year I said was not that great and I would take over 15 receivers ahead of him, and guess what, kid was not even drafted.

Expected more out of Herman than what he is doing, he needs to really pick it up. And Binns is slowly starting to become more productive.

Sure will watch then more but as of right now they seem a little less talented than they usually are. Will see how they play the rest of the year.

iowatreat54
10-18-2011, 10:26 AM
Because at this point, no one new has really stood out to me. Maybe could make the case for Dominic Alvis, but I have to see more from him, and same with Tanner Miller. Those two have shown potential but again I probably have to see more of them. All the rest stood out last year and impressed, just not many new guys for them I guess.

Coker impressed last year and is on the radar, Micah Hyde is flat out playing absolutely great football and I love him at corner, big time prospect. Jordan Bernstine at safety is interesting and McNutt is playing solid, has a better chance in the NFL than DJK did. Someone last year I said was not that great and I would take over 15 receivers ahead of him, and guess what, kid was not even drafted.

Expected more out of Herman than what he is doing, he needs to really pick it up. And Binns is slowly starting to become more productive.

Sure will watch then more but as of right now they seem a little less talented than they usually are. Will see how they play the rest of the year.

This. There's no one really that's been doing a whole lot consistently for us, and even the guys with random good games you can't possibly make note of everyone.

Really, you have Vandenberg who has looked pretty good most games but also has shown signs of a first year starter and still hasn't won on the road. McNutt and Keenan Davis show flashes, but sometimes our play call hinders how great they look. Coker has been relatively disappointing, but has turned it on the last 2 games. Our TEs overall have been awful, and because our WRs have been playing really well we have moved away from throwing to them. Not really going to write up the OL much, but they've been worse than what they should be, and Reiff hasn't really done outstanding like he should.

On D, Binns is playing better as of late, especially Saturday, but other than that hasn't done much. And like you said, Alvis is starting to break through, but doesn't have much of a resume yet. James Morris is an animal, leading the conference in tackles, but isn't elligible for the draft so no one really notices. Nielsen has been pretty disappointing/injured, and Kirksey is a first year starter quietly having a great year so far. Prater has been pretty disappointing in that he hasn't made many big plays, but he's quietly doing his job. Hyde and Bernstine are having great years so far, hopefully Bernstine can stay healthy. Tanner Miller - see James Morris.

Really, there are a few guys having pretty good years, but nothing special. Vandenberg had the Pitt game, I guess you could have talked about him then, or the WRs. Other than that, Iowa has been really meh this year and nothing really worth noting. We're really young and green, so no real name recognition with our guys yet. Your last sentence is more or less spot on, and where we have talent it's young and inexperienced.

Ozzy
10-23-2011, 01:18 PM
Week 8:
*Nickolas Brassell FR WR Ole Miss: Very good looking freshman, supposedly plays both ways for Ole Miss. Great athlete, love his quickness, confidence on the field, good hands, dangerous with the ball, long arms. Quickly a big playmaker like this could help bring some new life to a downward sliding program.


*Fabbians Ebbele FR OT Arizona: Really great looking tackle so far, big kid at 6-8, good feet, very good pass protector and absolutely destroyed defender run blocking against UCLA. Will be one to keep an eye on along with a fine group of freshman tackles across the country.


*Chandler Jones SR DE Syracuse: Played a really breakout game, just had one of those dominating games he could do no wrong. Big kid, has been on the radar awhile, had injuries this year but if he keeps up this level of play he could easily be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.


*Arthur Brown JR ILB Kansas State: Playing great football, so athletic and hard to block. Brings it on every play, penetrates and gets tackles for loss constantly. Part of a much improved Kansas State defense, playing at a totally different level than he did at Miami.


*Chance Warmack JR OG Alabama: Arguably is playing as good as any guard in the country. Pulls constantly on run plays, is aggressive blocking down field, really plays well and is dominating for Bama.


*Aaron Lynch FR DE Notre Dame: Big tall kid, gives good effort and is a very impressive young player for Notre Dame. They have not had this much talent on that defensive line for a very long time.


*Joe Scott SOPH RB Ole Miss: Big time playmaker, was a good prospect last year as well. And arguably has more toughness than some smaller speed backs. Big play waiting to happen, he is one to watch.


*Casey Locker SOPH SS Washington State: Saw a little of him, one to keep an eye one, related to Jake Locker. Big hitter at safety though, love that toughness and aggression, plus has those blood lines do not hurt.


*Tra'Mayne Bondurant FR CB Arizona: Stout corner, tough, physical, built low to the ground and tackles well. One to watch out for in the future, right now he has the physical tools to become a difference maker.


*Jonathan Meeks JR SS Clemson: Having a great year for Clemson, all over the field, hitting hard and making big plays consistently.


*Curtis McNeal JR RB USC: Love his toughness, runs low to the ground, hard to take down and has good leg power. Is part of an ever improving USC backfield.


*Andre McDonald SOPH TE Kansas State: Huge kid, dominating run blocker, really helping that Kansas State offense crush people running the football. If he shows some more as a pass catcher he could quickly become an elite tight end prospect.


*Dion Sims SOPH TE Michigan State: Not much to not like about him, he is a big wide body, good blocker, has soft hands and makes big catches. Really a great looking young tight end, that is for sure.


*Dion Bailey FR SS USC: Playing fine football, young player, is used as a linebacker and is part of the reason why they are so improved on defense. Has good speed, nice tackler and could develop into a decent strong safety in time.


*Randall Telfer RS FR TE USC: Love his physical ability, runs and catches like a receiver, thick, tough, gets off the line and down the field easily. Is part of a par of solid young tight ends for USC.


*Le'Veon Bell SOPH RB Michigan State: Had a great game, catch the ball effortlessly out of the backfield. Was a beast running the football, showed fine quickness for a man his size. In time, when he becomes the #1 back, he could really breakout as a prospect, very talented player.


*BJ Cunningham SR WR Michigan State: Should be moving up the boards. Just makes big plays, consistently catches the ball and rarely lets one go. Is tough, strong, can take a hit, run after contact, just not much to not like about the guy. And he has been consistently productive for years.


*Aaron Morris FR OG Ole Miss: Love his lower body, really sound base to him as a football player. Can move some people around, good athlete and in time could develop into a fine guard prospect.


*Trenton Robinson SR S Michigan State: Really playing great at safety for them, with his improved player he has a shot at being a possible 3rd-4th round pick I feel. Athletic, makes plays and in a weak class of safeties he could be picked higher than expected.


*Corey Crawford FR DE Clemson: Another possible star at defensive end for Clemson, they have these guys all over. Big kid, very similar build to Bowers of last year. Tough and good off the ball, will see how he develops.


*Kawann Short JR DT Purdue: Promising tackle for Purdue, he can get after the quarterback, is quick off the ball and is a consistent force up the middle. Watch out for him in the future.



Disappointed
Bruce Irvin SR OLB West Virginia: Really a big disappointment, everyone had him rated high before the season based off last year. But just simply not playing that well with the increase attention on him. Playing as a down defensive end and really not doing all that well, showing he cannot get off blocks and that he cannot put his hand on the ground and get around the edge as a pass rusher.

Jacobbi McDaniel JR DT Florida State: Being outplayed by freshman tackles on Florida State. Not playing up to his potential, was a fine run stopper that made in impact last year, not doing the same this year. Then again that might just say those freshman are that good to play over him, and that is possible.

Hurricanes25
10-23-2011, 01:20 PM
^ Kawann Short is very underrated. Every time I watch Purdue, he is wreaking havoc in the trenches.

Babylon
10-23-2011, 01:48 PM
^
Casey Locker (Jake's cousin) really doesnt need to be mentioned in a draft forum. He's small and slow for the position. If his name weren't Locker i doubt his name would even come up.

Ozzy
10-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Babylon^
Casey Locker (Jake's cousin) really doesnt need to be mentioned in a draft forum. He's small and slow for the position. If his name weren't Locker i doubt his name would even come up.I do talk about prospects young and old, he is only a sophomore and oddly enough, myself included, I thought the same about Eric Smith on Michigan State. Loved his toughness and hitting ability as a young player, then he got less interesting to me over time and I have him as a late round pick or lucky to be drafted. Yet turns out, kid made the NFL and still is a starter on the Jets. Why? Because of speed, not because of toughness tackling.

Casey Locker has had some great hits this year, and sure hitting is not everything but more often than not it shows physical strength and willingness to give up your body. And again not the case with everything, but usually players that make other players go backwards when they hit them, turn out to be ok if they show overall consistency and willingness to give up their body and tackle.


You saying Cody Grimm was some elite level talent on Virginia Tech? Heck no, played what linebacker and just showed great toughness and tackling. Then gets picked as a safety prospect and is still in the NFL. Thus I do feel Casey Locker in time could be that same type of prospect, one who has toughness and tackling potential.

But of course, his last name makes one pay attention, because Jake Locker was a physical beast and was impressive from the word go. And based off those few hits I saw his cousin make, who knows, the gene pool could be a good one.

underscore
10-23-2011, 02:42 PM
Silas Redd went for 18-164 with zero yards lost yesterday. He's really in a groove, averaging 142 ypg in four Big Ten games, with no game less than 125 yds.

Babylon
10-23-2011, 06:28 PM
I do talk about prospects young and old, he is only a sophomore and oddly enough, myself included, I thought the same about Eric Smith on Michigan State. Loved his toughness and hitting ability as a young player, then he got less interesting to me over time and I have him as a late round pick or lucky to be drafted. Yet turns out, kid made the NFL and still is a starter on the Jets. Why? Because of speed, not because of toughness tackling.

Casey Locker has had some great hits this year, and sure hitting is not everything but more often than not it shows physical strength and willingness to give up your body. And again not the case with everything, but usually players that make other players go backwards when they hit them, turn out to be ok if they show overall consistency and willingness to give up their body and tackle.


You saying Cody Grimm was some elite level talent on Virginia Tech? Heck no, played what linebacker and just showed great toughness and tackling. Then gets picked as a safety prospect and is still in the NFL. Thus I do feel Casey Locker in time could be that same type of prospect, one who has toughness and tackling potential.

But of course, his last name makes one pay attention, because Jake Locker was a physical beast and was impressive from the word go. And based off those few hits I saw his cousin make, who knows, the gene pool could be a good one.

You're entitled to your opinion but if he ever gets drafted i'll send you a bottle of our best NW wine.

Ozzy
10-23-2011, 06:33 PM
Ozzy You're entitled to your opinion but if he ever gets drafted i'll send you a bottle of our best NW wine.Hahaha, that would be at least two if not three years from now, doubt I would remember it but I will try ;o)

FSUFan45
10-23-2011, 06:37 PM
Pretty tough for McDaniel to play better when he's not playing

Ozzy
10-23-2011, 07:10 PM
FSUFan45 Pretty tough for McDaniel to play better when he's not playingYes, he is injured for the rest of the year, but he has played 6 games this year, and either has not seen the field, or when he has he has not done much. Again like I said before, getting out played by freshman, even before his injury.

Giantsfan1080
10-23-2011, 07:55 PM
Why don't you ever mention Sanu?

Ozzy
10-23-2011, 09:46 PM
Why don't you ever mention Sanu?You said this exact comment after week 5...haha

I think he is awful, that is why! ;o)

No clearly the kid can play and is working his way into becoming a very high draft pick, could argue he is ahead of guys like Jeff Fuller and possibly Ryan Broyles. Smooth player, good route runner, and surprisingly strong as well. No real surprise he is doing well, he was good since he was a freshman.

ToldLikeItIs
10-23-2011, 10:37 PM
McNutt, Kirksey, and Coker..

Ozzy
10-30-2011, 09:19 PM
Week 9:
*Casey Hayward SR CB Vanderbilt: Heard people talk of him before, and he is the real deal. Great ball skills, is not a lock down corner but plays the pass well, has long arms, reacts to the ball and can keep up in coverage. Is a great 3rd to 4th round prospect at corner, very interesting talent.


*Michael Thomas SR SS Stanford: Did not have a great game but showed he is a big time talent and has a chance at the next level at safety. Plays coverage well, can man up on a receiver, tackle well in space, has good technique and just an all around solid safety prospect as a second tear safety.


*Jaz Reynolds SOPH WR Oklahoma: Really big time game, made some sick one handed catches. Tall lengthy kid, is next in line for big things at Oklahoma. One could argue he is the most talented receiver on the team right now, but same could have been said for Dejuan Miller a few years ago.


*Alfonzo Dennard SR CB Nebraska: Is on everyones radar, has disappointed the past few weeks. But this week he played huge, made amazing plays on the ball in the air, was right on the receiver at all times. Great ball skills and really showed off his ability against Michigan State.


*Jordan Matthews SOPH WR Vanderbilt: Big time receiver, thick lower body, has great hands, hard to tackle and is tough. Could be a big time prospect in time.



*Chris Givens JR WR Wake Forest: Very interesting prospect at receiver, fast, can take a hit and get yards after the catch. Great route runner and good hands, very interesting player on a down Wake Forest team. Is there one true weapon on offense.


*Chris Gragg JR TE Arkansas: Could be an amazing tight end prospect, can really run, has a big wide body. Soft hands and long arms, he could just explode at tight end next year if he sticks around. Really talented player and arguably a better prospect than DJ Williams from the year before.


*Chris Marve SR ILB Vanderbilt: Has been around for awhile, stocky player that can back a punch, could be a great 3/4 ILB potentially. Good blitzer, aggressive and tackles well, solid late round prospect at this point.


*Jerry Franklin SR OLB Arkansas: Played a great game against Vanderbilt, probably the best game I have seen him play. Was all over the field, making tackles, he can really run and is tough at the point of attack.


*Jordan Rogers JR QB Vanderbilt: Is a decent NFL prospect at this point, has a quick release and is a good athlete. Sad he is not a freshman on Vanderbilt and has time to develop, only has one more year to make it count. Still bringing great hope to that school along with a fine new coach. Impressed overall with their program.


*Eltoro Freeman SR OLB Auburn: Probably the best game I have seen him play. Very tough aggressive linebacker, was all over the field, made big plays and big tackles. He has to keep that consistent high level of play up because this years class of linebackers is a good one.

rawdawg
10-30-2011, 09:37 PM
Week 9:
*Casey Hayward SR CB Vanderbilt: Heard people talk of him before, and he is the real deal. Great ball skills, is not a lock down corner but plays the pass well, has long arms, reacts to the ball and can keep up in coverage. Is a great 3rd to 4th round prospect at corner, very interesting talent.



I was going to start a thread about where people thought he'd go, but then I saw this. I'm a huge fan of Hayward's. Have watched him religiously this season. He does everything that a defensive coordinator of a Cover 2 or off-man coverage team wants out of its CBs. I agree he's not a lockdown man CB, but there aren't a ton of those anyway. I don't think he has ball skills as much as he has ball awareness. Better ball skills would have led to him having 3 INTs this weekend vs. Tyler Wilson. But he did have 5 PBUs. He's probably the smartest CB in the nation. The 3 dropped INTs were wonderful plays. First, he was in Cover 2, and followed the QBs eyes to make a play on the ball when he knew he didn't have any flat responsibilities. Second, he was in man coverage and played the WR perfectly. The WR reached out for the ball and Hayward read that and turned to make a play on the ball himself. Third, was Cover 2 also, I believe and he jumped a flat route for a near pick 6.

With the Bears having a pipeline to Vandy and all, I'd love Hayward to be the next Commodore in Chicago next year. I have him targeted in the 3rd round, with Carolina's 3rd (for Olsen) if necessary. 3 of the Bears 5 CBs are FAs after the season and I think Casey can come in and start as a rookie in the Bears system.

dannyz
10-30-2011, 10:11 PM
Rex Burkhead carried the Nebraska Offense in a big win over Michigan State. The Best Player on the Nebraska offense, he might not be the strongest or fastest but he runs hard and has good moves but can also run right through you.

thenewfeature06
10-30-2011, 10:13 PM
Burkhead reminds me a little of Woodhead tbh.. slight sleeper

Big Bird
10-30-2011, 11:57 PM
Burkhead reminds me a little of Woodhead tbh.. slight sleeper
Because he is white? Because the comparisons end there...

JoeJoeBrown
10-31-2011, 12:27 AM
Any thoughts on big Jon Hankins? Dude is a full on beast as a sophomore. Has the potential to be special next year and I expect him to rocket up boards next year.

Babylon
10-31-2011, 12:37 AM
Because he is white? Because the comparisons end there...

I think he meant because they both played their college ball in the state of Nebraska.

MaxV
10-31-2011, 06:05 AM
Penn State OLB Gerald Hodges has been awesome the last few games.

Big Bird
10-31-2011, 10:03 AM
I think he meant because they both played their college ball in the state of Nebraska.
Oh maybe it's because both of their names end in 'head'.

There are more comparisons then I originally thought. White, college in Nebraska, and similar last name's. They must be clones.

keylime_5
11-01-2011, 02:30 PM
John Simon. 4 sacks and 7 tfls in the last two weeks. Guy is just a monster.

As far as his pro potential, I think it's at linebacker in a 3-4. He is 6-2/270 and was a 3 technique DT last season, was supposed to be the strongside DE this season but due to Nathan Williams missing the entire season Simon has been playing that LEO spot a lot, which involves him standing up in a two point stance a lot. Very strong player (look at his upper body, geez) but he doesn't have the length to be a DE in the NFL imo.

M.O.T.H.
11-01-2011, 04:00 PM
It was against the Vols...but true Freshman, Brandon Wilds, did a fine job of filling in for Lattimore. You could tell he wasnt used to such a workload, however. Lattimore never seems to tire, Wilds was sucking some wind for sure.

But yeah...

28 carries, 137 yards, 3 receptions, 31 yards.

That's all of Lattimore's workload.

Ozzy
11-01-2011, 05:27 PM
M.O.T.H. It was against the Vols...but true Freshman, Brandon Wilds, did a fine job of filling in for Lattimore. You could tell he wasnt used to such a workload, however. Lattimore never seems to tire, Wilds was sucking some wind for sure.

But yeah...

28 carries, 137 yards, 3 receptions, 31 yards.

That's all of Lattimore's workload.Wilds did impress, but other South Carolina backs did ok from time to time then dropped off the map totally. But it was a good start for him, really the offensive line is the reason he did well though, they are a good group run blocking. Jeffery sadly really is starting to appear out of shape. Great in jump ball situations, and is playing with awful quarterbacks, but his conditioning is lacking and because of that and his overall lack of great route running receivers like Blackmon or Floyd could easily over take him and be picked ahead of him.



MaxV Penn State OLB Gerald Hodges has been awesome the last few games.He is playing well, much better than last year but like others have said I doubt he comes out early. Just way to much linebacker talent to put up with, he would be lucky to be picked in the 3rd round, because most likely if he came out he could drop way down.



JoeJoeBrown Any thoughts on big Jon Hankins? Dude is a full on beast as a sophomore. Has the potential to be special next year and I expect him to rocket up boards next year.I agree totally, with all this hype around Poe, give me Hankins instead over time. Shows crazy good conditioning for a man his size, great athlete, plays hard, runs plays down field and is just an all around elite defensive lineman potentially.

thenewfeature06
11-03-2011, 08:46 AM
Because he is white? Because the comparisons end there...

Take a lap.

thenewfeature06
11-03-2011, 08:47 AM
I think he meant because they both played their college ball in the state of Nebraska.

As well as you..

take a lap

They both run hard for that size yet Woodhead is probably a little quicker.

Big Bird
11-03-2011, 08:16 PM
As well as you..

take a lap

They both run hard for that size yet Woodhead is probably a little quicker.
For that size?

Woodhead is 5-7 and 3/4 and 195 lbs. while Burkhead is 5-11 and 210 and has the body to add some more weight.

Again, they aren't even similar.

Maybe you should take the lap and pick up some knowledge on your way around the track...

thenewfeature06
11-04-2011, 11:36 AM
HA!

They are similar when I watch them but ok I was wrong about there size..

SUE ME

BuddyCHRIST
11-04-2011, 01:01 PM
Bjoern Werner looked great again, showed amazing awareness by reading the QBs eyes and dropping back a few steps to intercept a pass. FSU is about put out alot of defensive players to the NFL the next 3 years.

bruschis4all
11-04-2011, 01:21 PM
Bjoern Werner looked great again, showed amazing awareness by reading the QBs eyes and dropping back a few steps to intercept a pass. FSU is about put out alot of defensive players to the NFL the next 3 years.

Werner looked good. I also remember a play where he beat the T off of the edge on a running play and just blasted the rb right after he got the handoff. I thought Nigel Bradham - olb made a tremendous play on one of the screens BC tried. They showed the angle from behind him. He diagnosed the rb heading out into the flat. Got thru the traffic. Made a nice form tackle instead of going for the kill shot. 8 yard loss. I watched him in the OU/Clemson games and he took some dumb penalties. If he doesn't do that, could be a player

Ozzy
11-04-2011, 01:59 PM
BuddyCHRIST Bjoern Werner looked great again, showed amazing awareness by reading the QBs eyes and dropping back a few steps to intercept a pass. FSU is about put out alot of defensive players to the NFL the next 3 years.I totally agree, Werner looked great, and of the Florida State games I have seen this year, it was easily the best game for Brandon Jenkins. Might have to do with the sub par BC offensive line though.

As for the defense overall, could argue there are at least 17 pro prospects on that defense right now. The defensive line alone has 8 I feel, just an amazingly productive group of young defensive lineman, especially at DT. Really impressive group, and that is why they had such high expectations to start the year. Would be interesting if they would have won those games if they had Nick Moody, because ever since he came back, they have been lights out on D.

DE Werner
DT T.Jernigan, C. Erving
DT McCloud, J. McDaniel, Dawkins
DE B. Jenkins, Carradine
OLB Bradham
ILB C. Jones
OLB T. Smith
CB Rhodes, Harris
CB Reid
SS Moody, Parks
FS Joyner

BuddyCHRIST
11-04-2011, 11:37 PM
I don't think Moody has had that much of an effect on the defense, he make a bit of a difference in the run game but the main reason FSU's defense has been playing better is they cut down on penalties and improved 3rd down defense. They played very well against OU outside of some penalties and a couple big plays. They even played well against Clemson but had huge penalties that allowed Clemson drives to continue (and score 21 points), and Wake it was a mix of both and the offenses turnovers.

Nigel Bradham has been nicely rounding into form this season as well, he's actually played very well but has made a couple of costly penalties on 3rd downs. But he's a guy with great triangle numbers, experience playing different LB positions and will have a ton of experience (3 years starting and leading tackler) who has also grown into a vocal leader. I think he could be a very nice 2nd rounder who could fit into any defense.

TACKLE
11-05-2011, 09:38 PM
DE Jake Bequette from Arkansas is absolutely owning SCAR's RT.

M.O.T.H.
11-05-2011, 09:43 PM
DE Jake Bequette from Arkansas is absolutely owning SCAR's RT.

Well our RTs have both been Freshman...but yes.

SolidGold
11-06-2011, 10:06 AM
DE Jake Bequette from Arkansas is absolutely owning SCAR's RT.

Yea I was flipping between all the games last night but it seemed like anytime I had the ARK - SC game on Jake Bequette was in the backfield making plays.

Ozzy
11-06-2011, 02:48 PM
Week 10:
*Brandon Taylor SR SS LSU: Had an amazing game against Alabama, made tackles behind the line of scrimmage consistently, was sound in coverage. Just having an all around great year, and if he keeps this level of play up, he could jump Bama safety Mark Barron as the #1 SS in the draft.


*Tyler Lockett FR WR Kansas State: Great game for him, sick return man much like his brother was. Great open field speed, and if he rounds out more as a receiver he could be a good one.


*Devonta Freeman FR RB Florida State: The Noles have found their running back, very elusive player, runs low to the ground, hard to find and can really make people miss. Will watch his development over the years I am sure.


*Brandon Jenkins JR DE Florida State: Arguably the best game he has played this season. Was great against Colorado, showed strength and quickness off the edge, consistently got into the backfield and was absolutely hell to block.


*Emmanuel Lamur SR OLB Kansas State: Big tall athlete, rangy, kind of a linebacker slash safety but has a lot of potential. Consistently makes plays on the K-State defense and has an outside shot at the NFL I feel because of his upside and physical size and speed.


*Kevin Graf SOPH OT USC: That USC offensive line is rounding out, Graft is a very athletic player, gets down field and blocks with the best of them. Is one to watch on that USC line in the future.


*Bobby Hart FR OT Florida State: A promising young offensive tackle for Florida State. Fine athlete, moves defenders with ease it seems, good base on him, could be a stud tackle in the next few years.


*Jake Bequette SR DE Arkansas: Like others have said, played great but did it against a young guard moved to tackle. Still, improving his stock in a very deep and talented defensive end class.


*Ron Brooks SR CB LSU: Will see his name called draft day. Big time athlete, tall, strong, can play in the box and can cover. Should be a great late round draft pick for any team.


*Clyde Aufner SR OT Kansas State: Not a super star, but like his athletic ability on the field. Good athlete, gets down field blocking, plays with good technique, just needs to get a little stronger.


*Chris Harper JR WR Kansas State: Former Oregon QB transfer, not receiver, has a big thick body, great lower body strength. Catches the ball effortlessly and has decent speed, a promising prospect for the 2013 draft possibly.



Disappointed:
Tyrann Mathieu SOPH CB LSU: Still love his potential like most, but that play he did against Kirkpatrick was just dirty. I admire toughness and strength, but doing what he did on that special teams play was just cheap. Much less the fact he got beat in coverage by some moderately average receivers on Alabama at times. Still a great looking prospect, but took a slight step back this week in the 'Game of the Century', which did not disappoint.

rawdawg
11-06-2011, 08:33 PM
I thought Eric Reid was the best S on the LSU defense last night. He had more tackles (6 to 5) than Taylor, and the huge INT in what turned out to prevent what would have been the only TD on the night and meant an LSU loss. He also set the tone early with a hard, fumble causing hit to Richardson on the first play of the game. Most of his tackles came early, but he really did set the tone for the D and had the biggest play of the night.

rawdawg
11-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Also like to see some love for Sanu. His 5th 10-catch, 100 yard game of the year. He also showed up most when his team needed him, which I really like to see from a big time prospect. 7 catches for 60 yards on the game-tying drive late, including a 1-handed miracle catch on 4th down.

dannyz
11-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Timmy Jernigan FR-DT FSU Was in the backfield alot making plays. I watched him and i know it was against BC but he just blew up the guy across from him.

Ozzy
11-13-2011, 05:57 PM
Week 11:
*D.J. Swearinger JR SS South Carolina: Outstanding young safety prospect, came out of nowhere this year. Is great in coverage, fine skills and technique, tackles well, chases easily. Could argue he is the 2nd best strong safety prospect in the junior class.


*Isaiah Johnson SOPH SS Georgia Tech: Another fine safety, young player that really gives great effort on the field. Willing to lay out and put his body in harms way. Nice looking safety who one needs to keep an eye on.


*Chris Rainey SR RB Florida: Never been a fan of the guy, especially early in his career. But hard to argue with what he is doing now, quick, hard to tackle, is using more than just his speed in the open field. His improved quickness and lateral escape ability really is increasing his draft stock. More of a NFL runner and not just a gimmick college trick play threat.


*Tommy Streeter JR WR Miami FL: Has huge arms and hands, great in jump ball situations and is an outstanding end zone target. Much improving over past seasons, and if he comes back for his senior year he could really turn into a good prospect I feel.


*Andrew Jackson SOPH ILB Western Kentucky: Talked about him earlier, just realized I categorized him incorrectly and put him under my senior list. Best thing is he is only a sophomore, just thick with some more conditioning and game experience, he could be an outstanding prospect. Great talent, and played quite well against #1 LSU this weekend.


*Ryan Hewitt JR FB Stanford: What players they have at Stanford, loved Marecic last year, and now they have another player just like him who is a better pass catching target and just as aggressive as a blocker. Super talent, and I would put him as the #1 potential talent FB this year if he came out.


*Brandon Wilds FR RB South Carolina: He has a good offensive line blocking, but this kid can run too. Good quickness, good speed, runs hard, can take a hit and still gain yards. Another fine SC back, and just think how good Wilds and Lattimore will be next year sharing carries.


*D.J. Fluker RS SOPH OT Alabama: Kid has tree trunks for legs, seriously one of the biggest offensive tackles around in terms of his leg base. Absolutely huge, and improving his pass protection, and is already a masher as a run blocker.


*Logan Thomas SOPH QB Virginia Tech: Improving a lot as the season goes on, nothing to not like about his size, and if he keeps improving on his decision making and passing ability, absolutely great prospect here, part of a stellar sophomore QB class.


*Terrence Owens SOPH QB Toledo: Love his athletic ability, really good looking athlete, could be a possible receiver, but also has an interesting arm. Nice talent and is one to watch out for and see him develop in the MAC.


*Adonis Thomas SR RB Toledo: Good back, nice speed, love his quickness, big time speeder prospect as a runner. Might go undrafted but I could see him get a shot at the NFL potentially.


*Eddie Pleasant SR SS Oregon: Great athlete, really impressive his switch to SS. Really strong upper body, tackles well, improving in coverage, nice developmental prospect and since he is so good physically he might get a shot just because of his upside.


*Jordan Matthews SOPH WR Vanderbilt: Moved him up the list again, what a receiver, part of a great sophomore class of receivers. But this kid is good, awesome hands, thick lower body, good overall body control. Just an elite receiver that could develop into something great.


*Brandon Mitchell SOPH QB Arkansas: Next great Arkansas QB? Possibly, huge man, long arms, and will get his chance in time.



Disappointed:
Seantrel Henderson SOPH OT Miami FL: Played here and there against Florida State. Still very disappointed, cannot play the entire game, coming off injury, but even last year he was in and out. Has great power but simply is not that athletic, sad coming from a former overall #1 OT prospect in the nation, and was 1st in his class since he was in 8th grade it seems.

Mark Barron SR SS Alabama: Still a fine safety, but with the improved play of other safeties in the nation, I doubt he is the first strong safety taken in the draft. Great tackler, but just so so in coverage, not bad but not having the years others are having.

rawdawg
11-13-2011, 07:36 PM
Marvin McNutt had a huge game for Iowa. 8 for 130 and a TD. Also had a 19-yard run. 4 straight 100 yard games, and 7 out of 10 this year. The latest of which came against what was the 7th ranked pass D in the nation coming into Saturday.

McNutt has passed Nick Toon for me and is now my #5 WR behind Blackmon, Floyd, Jeffrey, and Sanu. He's only 53 yards behind Justin Blackmon in receiving yards this season, and his team doesn't throw constantly like Oklahoma St does.

Duffman57
11-13-2011, 07:40 PM
Actually Pleasent doesn't play SS any more. He struggled a bit in more of a FS role, but he plays the "Rover" in our D, which is a hybrid SS/OLB where he can basically just roam around and make plays. He's a BEAST in that role, and has enough athleticism to play in coverage, but does need some coaching up.

Ozzy
11-20-2011, 08:19 PM
Week 12:
*Leonard Johnson SR CB Iowa State: Had a sick game against arguably the best receiver in the nation. Very competitive, stayed with him, played the ball well in the air, and tackled when he needed too. Great game and seriously shot his stock up at least 7-10 spots and is not quickly becoming part of that second tear of solid corner prospects for the upcoming draft.


*David Amerson SOPH CB NC State: Hard to argue with his production, quite a ball hawk, and attacks the football in the air just like a receiver. Has great hands and if he rounds out his game more, he will be a 1st round pick potentially at corner.


*Kelechi Osemele SR OT Iowa State: Just gets better and better in my book. Great size, very thick, does not get pushed around, does not get beat by speed despite being his size. Overall solid lineman and should be a 1st round pick.


*Jared Barnett FR QB Iowa State: Had one heck of a game for Iowa State. Big time game on National television and he preformed, was their entire offense at times. Made big throws and showed a lot of athletic ability and ability to throw on the run.


*LaRoy Reynolds JR OLB Virginia: I like him as an athlete, he runs well, is active on the field, ok at rushing the quarterback as well. Not a bad prospect and is part of improving Virginia defense.


*Marcus Martin FR OG USC: Is a flat out mauler, really gets after in run blocking. Aggressive player, nice size and strength, could be a fine prospect in the years to come.


*Jacob Lattimer SR OLB/DE Iowa State: Liked him last year and he still does his thing, gives good effort off the edge and could be a fine late round pick for free agent signing for any 3/4 defensive team.


*Marqise Lee FR WR USC: Had a really great game, big time speed in the open field, quick, hard to bring down and has solid hands. Gains good seperation as well and is part of a very undersized but very fast class of freshman receivers across the nation.


*Deon Broomfield SOPH CB Iowa State: Another defensive back that stood out to me for Iowa State. Made very good tackles in the open field for Iowa State, and is part of a surprisingly solid secondary, which was even solid last year as well.


*Rhett Ellison RS JR TE/FB USC: Really increasing his stock I feel. Showing he can play full back as well as tight end. Always been a great blocker, aggressive at the point of attack and could be a fine full back or H back in the NFL for a power running team.


*Khaled Holmes JR C USC: Having a fine year, former guard moved to center and is part of a stellar USC offensive line playing great overall football.





Disappointed:
Morgan Moses SOPH OT Virginia: Did not like how he played, got beat a few times by speed off the edge. Had a strong freshman year but still has a little ways to go to become an elite level offensive tackle. Has the size but still needs to work on some things, in time he should be ok though.

rawdawg
11-20-2011, 10:01 PM
Leonard Johnson made himself a lot of money on Friday night. I think he's a sleeper for late 2nd round now. 4 year starter, doesn't have great measurables and isn't a ballhawk, but is probably as physical as any CB in this draft. Going to be a guy that will press at the line of scrimmage and can turn and run a little. Appears to also be as technically sound as any CB in the draft.

Osemele seems to be very underrated and I'm not sure why. He has plenty of experience. And for someone who is projected to NOT be able to play LT at the next level, he sure doesn't show it in the college game. I honestly think Osemele could be the next Carl Nicks if you put him at G at the next level. But if not, I don't see any reason why he could not play OT, and possibly even LT if he has to.

CheeseKnuckles
11-20-2011, 10:03 PM
Any love for Montee Ball?

iowatreat54
11-20-2011, 10:07 PM
Looks like someone watched a lot of the Iowa St. - Okie St. game.

Also, I like Osemele but he is pretty injury prone. Anyone think that's going to scare teams away?

keylime_5
11-20-2011, 11:05 PM
another disappointment player:

C Mike Brewster. He had 3 or 4 lousy snaps out of the shotgun. Has had a ton of bad snaps this year after virtually never having bad snaps during his previous 3 years as a starter. Doesn't really make sense, just another part of the turmoil this senior class at Ohio State is going through this year.

M.O.T.H.
11-20-2011, 11:49 PM
We cant replace Alshon's talent so easily, but Brandon Wilds has really put me at ease for life after Lattimore.

109 yards 2 Tds ; 4 receptions 55 yards against the Citadel this week. Pretty much the numbers he's been consistently putting up since taking over for Lattimore, regardless of opponent.

rawdawg
11-21-2011, 03:56 PM
Looks like someone watched a lot of the Iowa St. - Okie St. game.

Also, I like Osemele but he is pretty injury prone. Anyone think that's going to scare teams away?

He has had his share of injuries, but I don't think he's ever missed a game. Played in every game as a RS freshman, and started every game in 2009 and 2010. I don't believe he's missed any full games this year, though he has left a few early. I don't think you can call that "prone". He's a 360lb lineman, he's going to have his nicks.

iowatreat54
11-21-2011, 04:04 PM
He has had his share of injuries, but I don't think he's ever missed a game. Played in every game as a RS freshman, and started every game in 2009 and 2010. I don't believe he's missed any full games this year, though he has left a few early. I don't think you can call that "prone". He's a 360lb lineman, he's going to have his nicks.

This is true, I'm not sure he's missed a start. But I have seen him leave a number of games early. I'm pretty sure he didn't finish the Iowa game this season or last, can't remember which.

I'm not sure if it's bad luck, where guys fall on his leg or something, or if he just gets dinged up a lot. But earlier this season there was a noticeable difference between his play while hurt, so even if he doesn't miss a game it still shows. He seems to have recovered to be beastly, but there is evidence over the last 2 seasons at least where his injuries have had a negative effect on his play.

Ozzy
11-29-2011, 06:11 PM
Week 13:
*Tramain Thomas SR SS Arkansas: Absolutely outstanding game, kid was sick against LSU. All over the field, tackled aggressively in the open field, was solid in coverage and hit hard ever chance he had. I would not be surprised to see his name come off the board very late 1st or the 2nd round.


*Cornellius Carradine JR DE Florida State: Playing like a man the last two weeks. Big strong kid, really getting good pressure on the quarterback. If he comes back for his senior season he could really develop into an elite DE.


*Matt Elam SOPH SS Florida: Another safety that played a great game, was really aggressive tackling, has not issues handling his man and making plays. If he keeps up his development and proves solid in pass coverage he could easily be one of the best safeties in his class.


*Kenny Hilliard FR RB LSU: Another beast back for LSU, playing more now and doing a lot with his carries. Big kid, 240 pound back with speed. Could develop into a monster down the road.


*Brad Smelley SR TE Alabama: Might be the best game I have seen him play. Played aggressive, made key catches in the passing game and blocked well. One of many solid H-back type tight ends in the up coming draft.


*Kris Burd SR WR Virginia: Has a hard road with so many receivers in the draft, but he could be a sleeper. Nice body, good hands, plays aggressively and can make catches in traffic.


*Julian Miller SR DE West Virginia: Played very good for WV, could be an ideal 3/4 DE potentially, can rush the passer very well and has the size to stuff the run as well.


*Zac Stacey JR RB Vanderbilt: Another surprise on Vandy, a very stout runner, thick legs, hard to take down. Could have a real standout year next year for a much improved Vanderbilt team.


*Jay Wooten SR K South Carolina: Has not kicked much, but against Clemson he shot some bombs. Great leg, had wonderful arch on the kicks and accuracy. If he can kick it as far as he showed against Clemson, he could get a shot at the next level potentially.


*Nick Gentry SR DE Alabama: Another possible Alabama standout, one to watch in the bowl game, good pass rusher from his DL spot. Might be a solid sleeper prospect.

bruschis4all
11-29-2011, 06:47 PM
I was really impressed with 2 guys this past weekend. Texas A&M scored on their 1st drive then the Texas defense just took them out of the game. Keenan Robinson - olb - was all over the field. Looks like a great will in a 4-3 scheme.

Kevin Zeitler - G -Wisconsin destroyed PSU's dt's all night. Devon Still and Jordan Hill. Showed good movement when asked to pull. Wouldn't take it as a negative for Still(He had the flu from prior to the OSU game and didn't practice all week) but a positive for Zeitler. Hill is a good junior dt and got wiped out all game.

Anyone know much about Kenny Vaccaro - FS - Texas? Wasn't even listed as a starter pre-season. But, he's playing very well. Guy on our Pats site says he's playing better than any FS in the country. Haven't seen Texas much. He did make a nice Int against the Aggies covering Jeff Fuller on an out.

rawdawg
11-29-2011, 08:45 PM
I thought Rueben Randle had a really good game. His 9 catches and 134 yards were both season highs. I feel like whenever I've seen him play, all he catches are WR screens and go routes. But he showed the ability to sell the go route and run the 12-15 yard out. He showed he could find the space in a zone. He ran a solid slant pattern and a good comeback route. Showed good ability after the catch, especially when DBs tried to tackle him high. Also, adlibbed and caught a big pass when Jefferson got outside the pocket. Best game he's played this year, IMO.

Also, Terrance Ganaway for Baylor had a huge game, especially after RG3 went out.

Alfonso Dennard also was strong against red hot Marvin McNutt.

Jeff Fuller easily had his best game in a loss to Texas.

oh and Denard was beastly.

TACKLE
11-29-2011, 09:45 PM
I thought Rueben Randle had a really good game. His 9 catches and 134 yards were both season highs. I feel like whenever I've seen him play, all he catches are WR screens and go routes. But he showed the ability to sell the go route and run the 12-15 yard out. He showed he could find the space in a zone. He ran a solid slant pattern and a good comeback route. Showed good ability after the catch, especially when DBs tried to tackle him high. Also, adlibbed and caught a big pass when Jefferson got outside the pocket. Best game he's played this year, IMO.

He just might end up being my 3rd ranked WR. If he had even slightly competent QB play, I think he'd be getting first round talk. He's a very talented athlete - 6'3, explosive, great hands, great body control, can stay low and accelerate out his breaks and he has an impressive feel for the position for someone who's only played WR three years in his life.

VUBlacknGold
11-29-2011, 09:51 PM
*Zac Stacey JR RB Vanderbilt: Another surprise on Vandy, a very stout runner, thick legs, hard to take down. Could have a real standout year next year for a much improved Vanderbilt team.

the thing is warren normans comin back so he might lose some carries, but he is an amazing running back. Set Vanderbilt season records in Rushing yards and Rushing TDs, just a lil tank

Ozzy
11-30-2011, 07:11 AM
bruschis4all I was really impressed with 2 guys this past weekend. Texas A&M scored on their 1st drive then the Texas defense just took them out of the game. Keenan Robinson - olb - was all over the field. Looks like a great will in a 4-3 scheme.

Kevin Zeitler - G -Wisconsin destroyed PSU's dt's all night. Devon Still and Jordan Hill. Showed good movement when asked to pull. Wouldn't take it as a negative for Still(He had the flu from prior to the OSU game and didn't practice all week) but a positive for Zeitler. Hill is a good junior dt and got wiped out all game.

Anyone know much about Kenny Vaccaro - FS - Texas? Wasn't even listed as a starter pre-season. But, he's playing very well. Guy on our Pats site says he's playing better than any FS in the country. Haven't seen Texas much. He did make a nice Int against the Aggies covering Jeff Fuller on an out.I did not get to watch that Texas vs A&M game. Robinson played that well, that is good, he was flat out awful against Oklahoma earlier in the year.

So Zeitler really did that well against Devon Still? That is impressive if he did, Still is a good player.

As for Vaccaro and someone saying he is playing better than any safety in the country. I do not buy that and call total BS. He is good and but no where near the best safety in the country I think.

Guys like Matt Elam, DJ Swearinger, Brandon Taylor, Eric Reid, Bacarri Rambo, Winston Guy etc.... are all having great years at safety just to name a few of the many.




rawdawg I thought Rueben Randle had a really good game. His 9 catches and 134 yards were both season highs. I feel like whenever I've seen him play, all he catches are WR screens and go routes. But he showed the ability to sell the go route and run the 12-15 yard out. He showed he could find the space in a zone. He ran a solid slant pattern and a good comeback route. Showed good ability after the catch, especially when DBs tried to tackle him high. Also, adlibbed and caught a big pass when Jefferson got outside the pocket. Best game he's played this year, IMO. Yeah he is a good player, playing better and better with the improved quarterback play. However I think he should wait and come out next year. Doubt he would ever go ahead of Blackmon, Floyd or Sanu and maybe even Jeffery. Alshon would be wise to go back for his senior year as well.

rawdawg
11-30-2011, 02:20 PM
He just might end up being my 3rd ranked WR. If he had even slightly competent QB play, I think he'd be getting first round talk. He's a very talented athlete - 6'3, explosive, great hands, great body control, can stay low and accelerate out his breaks and he has an impressive feel for the position for someone who's only played WR three years in his life.

I still like Blackmon, Floyd and Sanu more as bigger WRs. And Jeffrey isn't my cup of tea, but I still think some team will (and should) take a gamble on him if he falls too far in the draft. But there's no reason Randle can't be a better pro than all of them. He may be the fastest in this group of 5, and I think he has the most upside. If he can really work on his route running, he can be a star.

Ozzy
12-05-2011, 06:12 PM
Week 14:
*Jerel Worthy JR DT Michigan State: What a game that kid played, easily the best I have ever seen him play. Lived in the backfield, got great penetration, played with a good motor and showed just how awesome he can be. Only issue was he did not stay on the field consistently but still amazing game against a great offensive line.


*Jamie Collins JR OLB Southern Miss: Freak athlete, got sick pressure against Houston and changed that game. Could be a fine 3/4 OLB as a pass rusher or could play in a 4/3 I think too. Has such great upside and I could see him come out early this year and be a mid round pick. But if not he could be quite a player come next years draft.


*Brad Wing FR P LSU: What a punter, kid is a freshman? Who, is amazingly effective and for being only a freshman, sky is the limit for this kid, could have a great future at the next level.


*Darqueze Dennard SOPH CB Michigan State: Sick corner back, fine athlete, very smooth in coverage and only a sophomore. He could develop very nicely and be one of the best corners to come out of Michigan State in awhile.


*Russell Wilson SR QB Wisconsin: If he decides to go with football, I would be shocked if he did not get drafted. Has a fine arm, accurate, athletic, good head on his shoulders. Would be a nice backup for any team in the NFL, that is for sure.


*Tracy Lampley JR WR Southern Miss: Good athlete, can make plays and run after the catch. Dangerous player and if he comes back for his senior season he could really increase his draft stock.


*Alfred Blue SOPH RB LSU: Yet another great LSU running back, how about that sophomore class, they have three fine running backs in that class alone on the same roster. Big kid, runs fast and is one in the stable.


*Justin Johnson SR WR Houston: I like his size, good hands, tough player and could be a nice slot receiver in the NFL if he shows he has open field speed to separate from defenders.


*Marcus McGraw SR ILB Houston: I like his athletic ability, a bit small but active and is productive on the field. With good play in the post season All Star games he could be one of the inside linebackers selected in the draft.


*Justin Gilbert SOPH CB Oklahoma State: Part of a par of solid corners for Oklahoma State. Very active, competes for the ball in the air, can stay with receivers and overall has a very good upside.


*Le'Veon Bell SOPH RB Michigan State: The best I have seen him run the football. Played with great speed, ran really hard and go a lot of yards after contact. If he runs like that next year, he will clearly be the number one back on Michigan State and possibly tear it up in the Big Ten.


*Travis Jackson FR C Michigan State: Part of the reason why they ran the ball so well. Very athletic center, gets down field and blocks, is a tough kid and is one to watch develop.


*Chris Borland SOPH ILB Wisconsin: Playing great inside linebacker for Wisconsin. Making tackles all over the field, staying away from any injury issues and making a big impact. Is turning out to be one of the better sophomore inside linebackers in the nation.


*Markelle Martin SR FS Oklahoma State: A lot of people talk about him, fine athlete, covers the field well, has good speed and is sound in coverage. Wish he was a little tougher but still a nice prospect and will most likely be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Good developmental safety at this point, but has a lot of competition surprisingly.


*Dasman McCullum FR DE Southern Miss: Another speed rusher for Southern Miss that played so well. Provided great pressure off the edge and will be interested to watch him develop over time.



Disappointed:
Tony Jefferson SOPH CB/S Oklahoma: I have no idea what the deal is. Kid was a stud last year in the slot but clearly was only effective as a quick unblockable linebacker type with Nelson is playing this season. Back at safety he is very uneffective and does not make that many tackles. Sure on paper he is the same, but in the game he does not really make an impact like he used to I feel. Not sure what happened to him, might be playing out of position and I have no clue why he is not being tried at corner. Overall he has really disappointed this year, considering how great he seemed last season. Hopefully he gets a shot at corner next year, because at safety he really does seem lost and not sure he has the body for a safety anyway.

dannyz
12-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Can anyone give me a Scouting report on Andrew Jackson he is a Sophomore from Western Kentucky? He is 6-1, 255 and went to the same High School as Ray Lewis. He was making plays when he played LSU this year.

Ozzy
12-05-2011, 10:18 PM
dannyz Can anyone give me a Scouting report on Andrew Jackson he is a Sophomore from Western Kentucky? He is 6-1, 255 and went to the same High School as Ray Lewis. He was making plays when he played LSU this year.Define a scouting report. The few times I watched the kid he really impressed in run defense. Attacked the line of scrimmage, made impactful tackles and was able to shoot the gap and make the correct read on run downs. Love his intensity on the field, love the fact he is only a sophomore and has one or two more years to improve. I like his lower body strength and overall stout build. Only question is how he is in coverage down field and how his overall open field speed is. I know he has the intensity and strength, but does he have the speed side line to side line. Overall though really interesting prospect, but I would not say he is the by far #1 ILB prospect as a sophomore. I would say he is in the top 3 or 4 though in that class.

dannyz
12-05-2011, 11:13 PM
Define a scouting report. The few times I watched the kid he really impressed in run defense. Attacked the line of scrimmage, made impactful tackles and was able to shoot the gap and make the correct read on run downs. Love his intensity on the field, love the fact he is only a sophomore and has one or two more years to improve. I like his lower body strength and overall stout build. Only question is how he is in coverage down field and how his overall open field speed is. I know he has the intensity and strength, but does he have the speed side line to side line. Overall though really interesting prospect, but I would not say he is the by far #1 ILB prospect as a sophomore. I would say he is in the top 3 or 4 though in that class.

Thanks that's all I needed. It sucks he plays for Western Kentucky they had like 8 Wins but don't get a bowl game but teams that they beat do. People don't get to see him much but I think by the time he gets to the Draft in either 2013 or 2014 he could be a 1ST Rounder and should battle it out with guys like Tom Wort, CJ Mosley, Chris Borland, James Morris.

Ozzy
01-10-2012, 05:54 PM
Bowls Well another year in the books sadly. I was not able to watch as many bowl games as I wanted too, but here are a few standouts I thought in the bowl season, players that played really well. Overall, just a sick amount of talent in college this year, and the NFL can be thankful for the next few drafts, a lot of top end talent at most positions.


*Ladarius Green SR TE/WR Lousiana Lafayette: Had a great bowl game and really showed off his talent. Could argue he is a wide receiver at the next level, a Plaxico Burress type, great athlete overall.


*Markelle Martin SR FS Oklahoma State: Kind of had an up and down season, but in the bowl game he really played with fresh legs. Showed great closing speed and toughness at the point of attack. Big time athlete and if he works out well he could compete for being the #1 FS taken in the draft, but if McDonald comes out early he will most likely take that spot.


*Dwight Bentley SR CB Lousiana Lafayette: Was a big time standout, played great at the corner position, tackled aggressively, showed fine anticipation and confidence out on the edge. Will drop in the draft because of so many other good corners, but still he is a fine prospect and a possible steal in the later rounds.


*Evan Rodriguez SR TE Temple: Had a fine bowl game, has good speed at tight end and soft hands. Not an elite performer in college but in the later rounds of the draft he could be a nice pickup at tight end.


*Bennie Logan SOPH DT LSU: Played a really fine game, one of many outstandout athletes on that LSU front. Big kid, good motor and will only get better in time.


*Javone Lawson JR WR Lousiana Lafayette: One of the many Cajun stars in that bowl game, nice lean athlete, lengthy and really explosive in the open field.


*Ryan Lindley SR QB San Diego State: Should be a lock for being one of the top 5 quarterbacks drafted. Big strong arm, tough kid, competes hard, knows the game and could be a fine backup and potential starter if given time to develop.


*Arthur Brown JR ILB Kansas State: Mentioned him before, but just an outstanding inside linebacker. One could completely argue he has played better than Vontaze Burfict this year and if players like Teo do not come out and Hightower is drafted as a 3/4 ILB, Brown could be the #1 4/3 ILB in the up coming draft. Will see what happens, great prospect though and really can shoot the gap and make impact plays behind the line.


*Kevin Norwood SOPH WR Alabama: Showed flashes for Alabama when they needed a threat at receiver. Really broke out in this game, is a strong athlete and can go up and get the ball in the air when needed.


*Ed Stinson SOPH DE Alabama: Nothing amazing in the game, but shows good strength at the point of attack and is one of many very solid 3/4 DE's on the Alabama roster. Stinson is a young player that will only get better.

rawdawg
01-10-2012, 06:19 PM
Ozzy. Good stuff as usual. I watched a lot of the bowl games. Good list. Particularly like the love for Rodriguez and Bentley. Two of my favorite smaller school kids.

Others I was impressed with:

- Bernard Pierce, RB. Temple. Didn't have an eye popping game, but looks like an NFL workhorse. Very tough runner. I think he can be a franchise RB.

- Michael Smith, RB Utah State. Looked electric and outplayed Turbin. A guy to watch out for next year.

-Doug Martin, RB Boise St. 151 rushing, 3 for 26 receiving, KOR for TD. Going to be a huge steal in this draft.

- Nigel Bradham, LB Florida St. My question with him was instincts, showed great instincts in pass game. All over the field vs. ND

- Terrance Ganaway, RB and Philip Blake, C Baylor. Ganaway reminds me a lot of Michael Bush. Blake led the way on nearly every yard Ganaway had. Both look like 3rd rounders to me right now.

- Jeff Fuller, WR TA&M. My favorite WR before this season. Finally showed up to play in the bowl game. I wonder if he was hurt a little this year. Back in the day 2 conversation to me.

- Case Keenum, QB Houston. Why can't he be an NFL QB? Don't lump him in with Detmer, Klinger, Ware, and other NFL failures just yet. Destroyed a big time defense.

- Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU. Man is he long and tough to block. Fluker had all kinds of trouble with him. Could have an Aldon Smith like rise this time next year.

- Eric Reed, FS LSU. He wasn't necessarily all over the place, but he was right where he needed to be on every play. That discipline with that natural ability is very similar to an NFL player with his same 1st initial and last name.

Ozzy
01-10-2012, 06:37 PM
"rawdawg Ozzy. Good stuff as usual. I watched a lot of the bowl games. Good list. Particularly like the love for Rodriguez and Bentley. Two of my favorite smaller school kids.

Others I was impressed with:

- Bernard Pierce, RB. Temple. Didn't have an eye popping game, but looks like an NFL workhorse. Very tough runner. I think he can be a franchise RB.Surprised he is coming out, good player though, as for franchise RB, well wish that was the case but now a days a good running back is at best a nice thing to have but has not been a necessary thing for quite some time with all the rule changes. Packers do not have a go too back and they have no issues really, same with the Patriots etc.

- Michael Smith, RB Utah State. Looked electric and outplayed Turbin. A guy to watch out for next year.

-Doug Martin, RB Boise St. 151 rushing, 3 for 26 receiving, KOR for TD. Going to be a huge steal in this draft.

- Nigel Bradham, LB Florida St. My question with him was instincts, showed great instincts in pass game. All over the field vs. NDPhysically he is just a beast, and against the run is far more physical than Zach Brown, but Brown shows more athletic ability in coverage potentially

- Terrance Ganaway, RB and Philip Blake, C Baylor. Ganaway reminds me a lot of Michael Bush. Blake led the way on nearly every yard Ganaway had. Both look like 3rd rounders to me right now.

- Jeff Fuller, WR TA&M. My favorite WR before this season. Finally showed up to play in the bowl game. I wonder if he was hurt a little this year. Back in the day 2 conversation to me.Yeah I saw that too, was nice to see him make big plays when they needed it, sadly A&M had a really disappointing year this season I feel, they were so talented

- Case Keenum, QB Houston. Why can't he be an NFL QB? Don't lump him in with Detmer, Klinger, Ware, and other NFL failures just yet. Destroyed a big time defense.I would not call Penn State big time, they played good during the season but mentally they simply were not there since the scandal. His targets and weapons on offense will probably be more successful than he is. Who knows but simply put rarely are system quarterbacks like him real successful in the NFL.

- Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU. Man is he long and tough to block. Fluker had all kinds of trouble with him. Could have an Aldon Smith like rise this time next year.Yeah that kid is a beast and would be a high pick this year if he could come out, a really elite 3/4 OLB prospect potentially

- Eric Reed, FS LSU. He wasn't necessarily all over the place, but he was right where he needed to be on every play. That discipline with that natural ability is very similar to an NFL player with his same 1st initial and last name."I would not call him Ed Reed just yet, not that elite of a playmaker. Reed returns punts. Reid on LSU is more a tough guy and plays on intimidation like Rodney Harrison or Adrian Wilson potentially. Will be interesting to see how he develops next year

Caulibflower
01-10-2012, 06:46 PM
-Doug Martin, RB Boise St. 151 rushing, 3 for 26 receiving, KOR for TD. Going to be a huge steal in this draft.



The more I watch Doug Martin, the more I think he could be awesome. He's got everything.

dannyz
01-10-2012, 07:19 PM
I Love that LSU Defensive Line with Montgomery,Mingo,Logan,Brockers. I thought the Honey Badger got beat pretty good Last Night and it shows that he should be moved to Safety and be like a Troy Polamalu type in the NFL Blitzing the QB. He is just to small to play CB.

Caulibflower
01-10-2012, 08:18 PM
I Love that LSU Defensive Line with Montgomery,Mingo,Logan,Brockers. I thought the Honey Badger got beat pretty good Last Night and it shows that he should be moved to Safety and be like a Troy Polamalu type in the NFL Blitzing the QB. He is just to small to play CB.

Too small to play corner, so you think he should play strong safety? I swear dannyz, you've got something special going with your weed hookup.

dannyz
01-11-2012, 01:38 AM
Too small to play corner, so you think he should play strong safety? I swear dannyz, you've got something special going with your weed hookup.

No I don't do that stuff. I just think he will get exposed in the NFL with WR's like Calvin, A.J. Green, Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson.

Caulibflower
01-11-2012, 01:46 AM
No I don't do that stuff. I just think he will get exposed in the NFL with WR's like Calvin, A.J. Green, Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson.

Sure, but... those guys are all 6'3"+ and are pretty much taller than everybody. Tyrann is 5'9", 180. He's small for a corner, but he's a corner. Strong safeties are the biggest of the defensive backs. You don't move a tiny guy to strong safety so that he can blitz the quarterback. That is kind of absurd. A SS has a lot of run support responsibilities, and what's more... they cover tight ends. Who are a lot bigger than the receivers you just named. You think he's too small to cover Fitzegerald, wait til he's lined up over Gronkowski or Graham. He's a cornerback. He's a ferocious tackler, especially for his size, but the guy is just not big enough to be a strong safety in the NFL. Maaaaybe free safety, but realistically I don't think that's even on the table. I think he's a great nickel guy and kick returner. I think he's a guy you play match ups with and use to cover slot receivers. I think a team can get a lot of use out of him, but they're going to be picking which guy he covers. And who's to say he can't blitz the quarterback out of the nickel spot? But he's just not big enough to take on a Polamalu role. NFL fullbacks would be drooling at the thought of lining up a 180 lb guy on a lead block.

bruschis4all
01-11-2012, 05:35 AM
[QUOTE=rawdawg;2820439]
- Nigel Bradham, LB Florida St. My question with him was instincts, showed great instincts in pass game. All over the field vs. ND

I watch a lot of FSU games. Buddy is a Noles fan he texts me a million times per game so I might as well watch to see what he's bitching about. He had a couple of dumb penalties in some early games. OU and Clemson. But had some real good games later. BC and the bowl game. Team captain and special teams player. Sounds like a profile the Pats like. Seems like a good WOLB for a 4-3 team.


- Jeff Fuller, WR TA&M. My favorite WR before this season. Finally showed up to play in the bowl game. I wonder if he was hurt a little this year. Back in the day 2 conversation to me.

Craig James mentioned a bunch of times in their game against Texas that he was bothered by a bad hammy all year. Mentioned it so many times it sounded like Drew Rosenhaus. I thought Fuller looked great last year. Curious to see his workouts.

- Case Keenum, QB Houston. Why can't he be an NFL QB? Don't lump him in with Detmer, Klinger, Ware, and other NFL failures just yet. Destroyed a big time defense.

I'm a PSU alum. They didn't come to play. Props to Keenum for tearing us to shreds. The team(fight with Mcgloin and Drake) and coaching staff were not ready to play football. PSU did have a good defense. But, their stats were a little deceiving because we didn't play many good passing attacks.
Down year for qb's in the Big 10. Best was Cousins and we didn't play them.