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MetSox17
09-11-2011, 03:18 PM
Chiefs got sodomized.

Steelers got their **** pushed in too, and i couldn't be happier about that.

Falcons look like garbage, definitely did not look like a team that was the 1 seed in the NFC last season.

Cowboys will beat the Jets.
waitwat



What are your thoughts?

Splat
09-11-2011, 03:25 PM
****!!!!!!!!!

umDr0mPuyQc

MetSox17
09-11-2011, 03:26 PM
What happened with the Chiefs?

Complex
09-11-2011, 03:27 PM
**** Matt Hassleback
Barret Rudd sucks
The titans don't know how to stop the run.

AntoinCD
09-11-2011, 03:31 PM
Well after the Texans crushed the Colts it's clear that they need that once in a lifetime type prospect. You know, someone who can play QB, play every position on defense, cover on special teams and kick field goals

J-Mike88
09-11-2011, 03:38 PM
Thanks for the **** help NFC South.

Bucs lost at home to the Lions.
Falcons blown out by the Bears.
That after the Packers beat the Saints.

They said the NFC South was the best division in football?
Carolina loses today and they're all 0-1.
Wait, if Carolina wins today, they're in 1st place all alone! LOL.

Chiefs were frauds last year.... defenses figured out to cover Bowe late last year, now they're the same old Chiefs.
Opening vs the Bills, at home? That's pretty appetizing. And they lost. Huge.

Chan Gailey>Todd Haley

J-Mike88
09-11-2011, 03:40 PM
**** Matt Hassleback.
Didn't watch a second of that game.... who does Hasselbeck have to throw to?
Ken Britt?

Nice run for Eli. Dammit. Redskins, you can't let Hakeem deep like that for 70 yards.

Pizzed off about the garbage stats for Reggie Wayne. He had a TD and 100+ yards? Pure garbage in a 41-7 blowout loss.

V.I.P
09-11-2011, 03:41 PM
I learned that Calvin Johnson is a man...

niel89
09-11-2011, 03:42 PM
Ravens looked like it was 2006. They caused 7 turnovers and just looked great on defense.

ChiFan24
09-11-2011, 03:44 PM
I had a feeling Mike Munchak would be a terrible coach. Is there any particular reason Chris Johnson touched the ball 10 times, and Hasselbeck threw about 30? I didn't watch the game, but that is just beyond stupid.

Also, my super bowl champ pick looking good (Baltimore).

J-Mike88
09-11-2011, 03:46 PM
I learned that Calvin Johnson is a man...
I watched a lot of that game, and I never saw LeGarrett Blount.
Where was he today, ejected? Did he punch another white fella?

V.I.P
09-11-2011, 03:55 PM
I watched a lot of that game, and I never saw LeGarrett Blount.
Where was he today, ejected? Did he punch another white fella?

Our OC is a big ********* ...

I really don't know why he sat Blount. We were passing a lot. But he proved he can play on passing downs in preseason.

Ness
09-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Well after the Texans crushed the Colts it's clear that they need that once in a lifetime type prospect. You know, someone who can play QB, play every position on defense, cover on special teams and kick field goals

What they need to do is actually draft good players and not just rely on the quarterback all the time. So blowouts like what happened against the Texans Sunday don't happen. Polian is going to try to get Andrew Luck now of course.

Pat Sims 90
09-11-2011, 04:13 PM
I learned that Jay Gruden is 10xxx better then Bob Bratkowski as a OC.

TitanHope
09-11-2011, 04:20 PM
I had a feeling Mike Munchak would be a terrible coach. Is there any particular reason Chris Johnson touched the ball 10 times, and Hasselbeck threw about 30? I didn't watch the game, but that is just beyond stupid.

CJ averaged 2.7 YPC behind a line that wasn't opening any holes, and the Titans trailed the entire game.

FUNBUNCHER
09-11-2011, 04:21 PM
The Bears can play football.
Atlanta is still overrated.

NFCN is gonna be a beast this year.

CJSchneider
09-11-2011, 04:24 PM
The Texans made the Colts their *****. Kerry Collins had this "Oh ****!" look on his face all game. Can Curtis Painter really be that bad?

bucfan12
09-11-2011, 04:28 PM
I learned that Calvin Johnson is a man...

A man? You mean man-child. Did you see his 2nd touchdown catch? Talib was all over him, perfect coverage and he made the craziest grab.

ChiFan24
09-11-2011, 04:28 PM
CJ averaged 2.7 YPC behind a line that wasn't opening any holes, and the Titans trailed the entire game.

Still.....it's Chris Johnson. Figure out a way to get him the ball and eventually he'll do something.

Again, didn't see the game though. Maybe running the ball really was completely hopeless.

bucfan12
09-11-2011, 04:29 PM
Well, we all learned the Colts are a win-less team without Peyton Manning. And I thought the Bengals would be win-less today. However I did not watch the game. Why'd they pull Andy Dalton?

ChiFan24
09-11-2011, 04:29 PM
A man? You mean man-child. Did you see his 2nd touchdown catch? Talib was all over him, perfect coverage and he made the craziest grab.

Is being a man-child better than being a man?

keylime_5
09-11-2011, 04:31 PM
Well, we all learned the Colts are a win-less team without Peyton Manning. And I thought the Bengals would be win-less today. However I did not watch the game. Why'd they pull Andy Dalton?

andy dalton had phil taylor and jabaal sheard land on him in the 2nd quarter and they didn't put him back in after halftime. hurt his wrist. browns defense was shutting the bengals down until they threw a touchdown to aj green when the browns were still in their defensive huddle and didn't line up. fluke td/win. bengals defense looked pretty good, at least up front.

vidae
09-11-2011, 04:34 PM
Chiefs were frauds last year.... defenses figured out to cover Bowe late last year, now they're the same old Chiefs.
Opening vs the Bills, at home? That's pretty appetizing. And they lost. Huge.

Chan Gailey>Todd Haley

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said, but god damn if you aren't the most annoying poster on these boards.

As for what happened to the Chiefs, we just weren't ready to play and the Bills were. Not going to take anything away from them.. they came into our house and bitchslapped us. They wanted that game a whole lot more than we did and they took it.

descendency
09-11-2011, 04:36 PM
Well after the Texans crushed the Colts it's clear that they need that once in a lifetime type prospect. You know, someone who can play QB, play every position on defense, cover on special teams and kick field goals

Tom Brady, Nnamdi Asomugha, Ray Lewis, Reggie White, Jerry Rice, Jim Brown, Ray Guy, Joe Thomas, and Adam Vinatieri rolled into one?

FUNBUNCHER
09-11-2011, 04:37 PM
Chiefs have talent, but I dunno what happened to them on D.
And I'm starting to wonder about their QB situation.

diabsoule
09-11-2011, 04:37 PM
After seeing how they played today I think the Colts end up winning the Andrew Luck sweepstakes

CJSchneider
09-11-2011, 04:39 PM
Luck behind Manning for a few years. It's like trying to count to infinity.

vidae
09-11-2011, 04:40 PM
The Colts lost to the Texans without Peyton Manning. The Chiefs lost to the Bills, at home, with a full roster (except Moeaki).. come at us Colts!

diabsoule
09-11-2011, 04:41 PM
The Colts lost to the Texans without Peyton Manning. The Chiefs lost to the Bills, at home, with a full roster (except Moeaki).. come at us Colts!

WEEK 5 MATCH-UP OF THE CENTURY!!!

JBCX
09-11-2011, 05:26 PM
Chiefs and Bucs were two teams guaranteed to regress this season - they both had extremely favorable schedules last year.

descendency
09-11-2011, 05:32 PM
Cam Newton will be a top 5 QB in 5 years.

vidae
09-11-2011, 05:33 PM
Cam Newton will be a top 5 QB in 5 years.

Don't you think it's a bit early to be saying stuff like that? It is week one afterall, haha.

FUNBUNCHER
09-11-2011, 05:37 PM
Cam Newton will be a top 5 QB in 5 years.

People refuse to acknowledge the TRUTH seen plainly before their eyes.
Seriously, it doesn't make any sense how good he's looked today for the Panthers.

No OTAs, no minicamps. Just sick.

V.I.P
09-11-2011, 05:59 PM
Oh ****, just now seeing the Bills vs Chiefs score

vidae
09-11-2011, 06:02 PM
Oh ****, just now seeing the Bills vs Chiefs score

Please don't remind me. It was the worst game I've ever seen. :\

ATLDirtyBirds
09-11-2011, 06:15 PM
Really an ugly game from Atlanta. Abraham and Curtis Lofton were really the only starters who played well. Our C Joe Hawley and RG Garrett Reynolds made their first starts today and got destroyed.

Bunch of holes in zone coverage, nothing from the DT spot after Babs got hurt, and an absolutely atrocious tackling display.


Skins/Giants: Fred Davis? Grossman? DeAngelo Hall making big tackles? What?

MetSox17
09-11-2011, 06:17 PM
I wish i could have been seeing the Arizona game. I want to see what Cam looked like, cause dude is inching 400 yards passing, which is ******* insane, rookie or not.

Mr. Goosemahn
09-11-2011, 06:21 PM
I wish i could have been seeing the Arizona game. I want to see what Cam looked like, cause dude is inching 400 yards passing, which is ******* insane, rookie or not.

He's looked solid, great at times. Tbh, a lot of yards have come from blown coverages, like his first TD to Smith for like 80 yards, but he's looked pretty good.

Mr. Goosemahn
09-11-2011, 06:22 PM
Also, Steelers forgot how to play today :(

Ness
09-11-2011, 06:22 PM
LOL we're going to lose to Seattle.

scottyboy
09-11-2011, 06:25 PM
that the giants blow and i haz a mega sad

JRTPlaya21
09-11-2011, 06:32 PM
That my Redskins aren't the worst squad in the league lol. Thanks Colts.

Nikolas
09-11-2011, 06:34 PM
After watching the Colt's game, I have to wonder if David Garrard's phone isn't ringing off the hook now.

V.I.P
09-11-2011, 06:36 PM
LOL we're going to lose to Seattle.

Ted Ginn, just wins games.

marshallb
09-11-2011, 06:43 PM
The Vikings have the worst passing offense in the entire league, by far...28 yards passing, McNabb was 7/15 for 39 yards and a pick, and we gave up 2 sacks, and a handful of other QB hits.

Monomach
09-11-2011, 06:48 PM
You know when you see the Harlem Globetrotters play against some poor saps and they just go nuts, doing acrobatic **** and triple alley-oop dunks while the other team is tripping over their own ankles?

Yeah. the Manningless Colts are the "other team."

ChiFan24
09-11-2011, 06:50 PM
LOL we're going to lose to Seattle.

Yall are winning the division this year.

TimmG6376
09-11-2011, 06:51 PM
I wish the Packers played AZ this season. Rodgers might put up 500.

niel89
09-11-2011, 06:52 PM
You know when you see the Harlem Globetrotters play against some poor saps and they just go nuts, doing acrobatic **** and triple alley-oop dunks while the other team is tripping over their own ankles?

Yeah. the Manningless Colts are the "other team."

Hey. I'm a Washington Generals fan. The Generals are going to get another win one of these days.

yo123
09-11-2011, 06:53 PM
Yall are winning the division this year.


After 8 years of people picking them to.

TimmG6376
09-11-2011, 06:54 PM
NFL RedZone is pretty awesome

Go_Eagles77
09-11-2011, 06:56 PM
The eagles very well could lead the league in rushing yards on offense and most rushing yards allowed on defense.

yo123
09-11-2011, 06:57 PM
No way Andy Reid runs enough to let that happen. McCoy is a stud though.

MetSox17
09-11-2011, 06:58 PM
No way Andy Reid runs enough to let that happen. McCoy is a stud though.

It doesn't matter when Vick is rushing for 100 yards a game.

PoopSandwich
09-11-2011, 06:59 PM
I learned that you aren't supposed to be in the huddle on defense when the offense is throwing the ball.

CC.SD
09-11-2011, 06:59 PM
How about Mike Scifres kicking field goals and kickoffs? i'm pretty sure all of San Diego cheered when Kaeding got carted off after the opening play.

TimmG6376
09-11-2011, 07:00 PM
The Steelers...not the Packers...might be the team with the SB hangover.

yo123
09-11-2011, 07:00 PM
It doesn't matter when Vick is rushing for 100 yards a game.


What happens when he tears his ACL week 5 then?

Go_Eagles77
09-11-2011, 07:08 PM
What happens when he tears his ACL week 5 then?
http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4e4d20e86bb3f7eb05000009/vince-young-eagles.jpg

MetSox17
09-11-2011, 07:08 PM
What happens when he tears his ACL week 5 then?

Shut your mouth. If that happens, my fantasy team dies, and if my fantasy team dies, YOU die.

Vikes99ej
09-11-2011, 07:15 PM
Fred Jackson is good
Chiefs were fluke last year
Loins are for real this year (if Stafford doesn't die)
Vikings are harmless
Packers will win division
Falcons o-line is awful
lol Colts
Giants are suffering from injuries

hawkeye123
09-11-2011, 07:17 PM
Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll's post midfield meeting:

Cameraman JC tells me midfield meeting -- Harbaugh: "See you on the road." Pete Carroll: "Yep."

http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/113036464383721472

ElectricEye
09-11-2011, 07:19 PM
I really don't know why people think Plaxico Burress is going to be any good after being on the decline anyway, not playing in 3 years, and being a 34 year old wide receiver. I get that it's worth bringing him in and seeing what he can do, but people are just sort of assuming he's going to be a weapon for the Jets. Must be the Michael Vick factor, at least a bit.

StripedWalrus
09-11-2011, 07:20 PM
andy dalton had phil taylor and jabaal sheard land on him in the 2nd quarter and they didn't put him back in after halftime. hurt his wrist. browns defense was shutting the bengals down until they threw a touchdown to aj green when the browns were still in their defensive huddle and didn't line up. fluke td/win. bengals defense looked pretty good, at least up front.

Haden and phil Taylor were shutting the Bengals down for most of the game. Despite what anyone may say about the Bengals and their QB situation, they still need a better QB. Dalton is not the answer. Gradowski isnt either. In all fairness Im suprised Haden didnt end this game with 3 or more picks. Dalton and Grad threw new INTS mutliple times. Kudos to Haden for sticking on the WR like he did...

descendency
09-11-2011, 07:21 PM
I really don't know why people think Plaxico Burress is going to be any good after being on the decline anyway, not playing in 3 years, and being a 34 year old wide receiver. I get that it's worth bringing him in and seeing what he can do, but people are just sort of assuming he's going to be a weapon for the Jets. Must be the Michael Vick factor, at least a bit.

Because everyone's last memory of him was him catching the touchdown against NE to win the Super Bowl.

yo123
09-11-2011, 07:21 PM
http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4e4d20e86bb3f7eb05000009/vince-young-eagles.jpg


That's not Mike Kafka.

fenikz
09-11-2011, 07:23 PM
I wish the Packers played AZ this season. Rodgers might put up 500.

cus he didnt in 09?

descendency
09-11-2011, 07:33 PM
That's not Mike Kafka.

It's Mike Kafka if he were black.

TimmG6376
09-11-2011, 07:34 PM
cus he didnt in 09?

Good point but this AZ defense is worse so 500 and sits the 4th quarter

Halsey
09-11-2011, 08:25 PM
WTH, Falcons...

The Bengals-Browns game is a great recruiting tool for UGA when trying to sign pass catchers.

lol @ people who still think Donovan McNabb is a quality starting QB

Alex Smith is officially no longer a bust, in my mind. Just a disappointment. He's not as bad as guys like JaMarcus, Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, etc. Those guys are busts.

FuzzyGopher
09-11-2011, 08:36 PM
Donovan McNabb is the best pure passer in the league and will break the single season record for passing yards. And my last memory of Plax is him in front of a court house.

DcmRulz
09-11-2011, 08:42 PM
i'd say smith was a bust, but for all that's been said, he has started for the majority of his career.

DcmRulz
09-11-2011, 08:45 PM
New rules to prevent injury, but the lockout effect means more people are getting injured.

Rabscuttle
09-11-2011, 08:46 PM
I wish the Packers played AZ this season. Rodgers might put up 500.

Points, I assume.

nepg
09-11-2011, 08:53 PM
I really don't know why people think Plaxico Burress is going to be any good after being on the decline anyway, not playing in 3 years, and being a 34 year old wide receiver. I get that it's worth bringing him in and seeing what he can do, but people are just sort of assuming he's going to be a weapon for the Jets. Must be the Michael Vick factor, at least a bit.
Because he caught a touchdown pass in pre-season.

keylime_5
09-11-2011, 08:56 PM
Haden and phil Taylor were shutting the Bengals down for most of the game. Despite what anyone may say about the Bengals and their QB situation, they still need a better QB. Dalton is not the answer. Gradowski isnt either. In all fairness Im suprised Haden didnt end this game with 3 or more picks. Dalton and Grad threw new INTS mutliple times. Kudos to Haden for sticking on the WR like he did...

yeah Haden had an all-pro, shutdown corner type performance today. Good to see rookie Phil Taylor and that young Browns defensive line play so well too.

I wouldn't write off Dalton yet. He's young and missed 2 quarters with a wrist injury. Cincy's defensive line looked pretty good out there. Dunlap, Atkins, Peko, Fanene...those guys look legit. Cincy's D-Coordinator knows how to get the most out of Chris Crocker and Reggie Nelson at safety too.

Flyboy
09-11-2011, 09:18 PM
After seeing most of the teams play in Week One, the GB loss in Week One doesn't bother me all that much in the NFC.. well, it didn't after the game but it REALLY doesn't bother me now.

DcmRulz
09-11-2011, 09:23 PM
saints look like the best losers by far. TB #2. a lot of losing teams just didn't show up.

gpngc
09-11-2011, 09:27 PM
Tampa Bay didn't look good at all.

I thought the Chargers looked ******* dominant even though they only won by a TD and were trailing at half.

Flyboy
09-11-2011, 09:29 PM
I wasn't impressed by San Diego at all - well, I take that back - their defensive was overall pretty impressive.

FUNBUNCHER
09-11-2011, 09:29 PM
Most shocking result today was what B'more did to the Steelers.

Are the Steelers on the decline?? Is their O line a fraud?? Is Big Ben regressing?? Is Pittsburgh's D getting old??

How good are the Ravens??? If Flacco is finally comfortable in the Ravens' offense, this could be their year.

gpngc
09-11-2011, 09:31 PM
I wasn't impressed by San Diego at all - well, I take that back - their defensive was overall pretty impressive.

And their RBs looked ******* great and they have Philip Rivers. So.... ??

J-Mike88
09-11-2011, 09:32 PM
Because everyone's last memory of him (Plaxico) was him catching the touchdown against NE to win the Super Bowl.
So he should be fresh. Hasn't absorbed any wear & tear since that catch.
Well, other than the bullet hole.

SeanTaylorRIP
09-11-2011, 09:32 PM
Shocking is how good Bryant Mckinnie was because Oher+Yanda on the right side is great, and Grubbs and Birk aint shabby. If Mckinnie can keep up his play the Ravens will be scary. Heap and Mason were consistent and sure handed but Dickson, Pitta, and hopefully Torrey add a new dimension. I for one expected Bryant to be Alex Barron bad

Flyboy
09-11-2011, 09:47 PM
And their RBs looked ******* great and they have Philip Rivers. So.... ??

And they still struggled with a Minnesota team... I'm far from ready to crown the Chargers yet.

FUNBUNCHER
09-11-2011, 09:51 PM
Anyone still believe in Mark Sanchez????

EDIT: May have spoken too soon, dude just threw a TD to Burress.

I still don't see a potential top 10 QB when I watch Sanchez play.

J-Mike88
09-11-2011, 09:52 PM
The Tolbert-Mathews thing really is an enigma for me.
Ryan seems way more talented. Tolbert looks like a short fullback.
Both guys seem to take huge hits time & time again.
I keep rolling the dice with Mathews in FF but that litlte stump keeps finding the end zone time & time again.
I should have drafted Tolbert first, not Mathews.

Thumbs-up:
-Jay Cutler
-Matty Ice Stafford
-Rob Ryan, Tony Romo & Dez Bryant (so far)
-Adrian Peterson (still a beast despite loss)
-Philip Rivers (clutch despite being harrassed and battered)
-Kevin Kolb & Cam Newton... both guys deserved wins, unlike SF-Seattle
-Ray Rice & Terrell Suggs
-Rex Grossman
-Ted Ginn (may not have made it as a WR, but who can in Miami? But he's lethal as a return stud)
-Ben Tate (Foster better get healthy soon)
-Redskins defense

Thumbs down
-Overrated, finesse NFC South
-Big Ben, Steelers OL
-Todd Haley
-Colts
-Eli Manning
-NFC West, including Arizona for making Cam Newton look like Dan Marino+Vick combined
-Tampa Bay offensive coordinator
-Tennessee offensive coordinator
-Atlanta offensive coordinator
-Mike Jenkins, Dallas (at least he's trying this year, but he's supposed to deliver the punishment out there. I've seen him get the worst end of 2 offensive plays, first Shonn Greene crushed him on a run, now Plaxico blindsided him hard.... are those hits still legal like that?)
-Tampa Bay crowd (looked like as many open seats as filled)

J-Mike88
09-11-2011, 09:53 PM
Anyone still believe in Mark Sanchez????
That was a great throw to Plaxico for the TD.

Brent
09-11-2011, 10:14 PM
Anyone still believe in Mark Sanchez?
That coaching staff is still babying him with how many times he attempts passes. I think that speaks a lot to his play.

nepg
09-11-2011, 10:22 PM
My only big reaction to this week is how polarized everyone is after the first Sunday of the NFL season... Seriously guys? I thought we were all more rational than this. The hating, hugging, and declaring has gotten out of control.

It was a shortened off-season. Every team prepared differently in an extremely abnormal circumstance and we really can't jump to too many conclusions until at least 2-3 games into the year.

Teams that had lots of veterans and mainstays have done well. Younger teams that went through some changes didn't. Let's see what happens when those teams that seem like disappointments get to do real work and make real adjustments based on real experience.

The only cut-and-dry things to come out of today are the Colts aren't good without Peyton Manning and Cam Newton had a great debut that won't mean much unless he can continue doing well and the Panthers win some games.

JRTPlaya21
09-11-2011, 10:40 PM
Well Romo still chokes lol.

descendency
09-11-2011, 11:11 PM
How good are the Ravens??? If Flacco is finally comfortable in the Ravens' offense, this could be their year.

The Ravens OL showed up and Flacco finally learned how to actually throw the ball instead of being a girl in the pocket.

edit: I used to think Flacco was the best young QB in the NFL. Then he regressed to grandma level.

JETS5128
09-11-2011, 11:19 PM
Anyone still believe in Mark Sanchez????

EDIT: May have spoken too soon, dude just threw a TD to Burress.

I still don't see a potential top 10 QB when I watch Sanchez play.

He just threw for 350 and 2 TDs and I think we can all agree that he missed plenty of opportunites and played a mediocre game by his standards. The potential to be a top 10 QB is clearly there

Jvig43
09-11-2011, 11:26 PM
He just threw for 350 and 2 TDs and I think we can all agree that he missed plenty of opportunites and played a mediocre game by his standards. The potential to be a top 10 QB is clearly there

Get the **** out of here with this ********. I ******* could have thrown twice that with all of Dallas's starting DBs being out for the game. If you want to throw in missed plenty of passes as a category fine, but thats going to be a big list at the end of the season if we should start keeping track, something that elite QBs don't do. Also how about the should have been interceptions? Or the actual bone headed interceptions, or the fumble? Any elite QB playing with the talent the Jets have on all sides of the ball would have won a SB by now, and not just "he took us to two AFC championships". He is the weakest part of that team, and is certainly not a top ten QB, or will ever be that kind of a QB.

gpngc
09-11-2011, 11:27 PM
I don't like how Sanchez is ALWAYS screwing around with the count. He's at the LOS for like 10-15 seconds every play. That can't be good - especially on running plays. They also vary the formations so much - I wish they'd make the offense a little simpler.

But I DEFINITELY see top-10 potential when he physically spins it. 90% of his throws are ******* beautiful.

Jvig43
09-11-2011, 11:29 PM
How can an offense get more simple than check down check down check down? I need to stop all the raging pats bias coming out right now, but I hate that guy so much.

descendency
09-11-2011, 11:34 PM
He just threw for 350 and 2 TDs and I think we can all agree that he missed plenty of opportunites and played a mediocre game by his standards. The potential to be a top 10 QB is clearly there

Against a team with no starting DBs

AHungryWalrus
09-11-2011, 11:37 PM
Against a team with no starting DBs

16 25 64.0 194 7.8 3 127.3

That looks pretty good to me.

Thecollegedropout
09-11-2011, 11:38 PM
Get the **** out of here with this ********. I ******* could have thrown twice that with all of Dallas's starting DBs being out for the game. If you want to throw in missed plenty of passes as a category fine, but thats going to be a big list at the end of the season if we should start keeping track, something that elite QBs don't do. Also how about the should have been interceptions? Or the actual bone headed interceptions, or the fumble? Any elite QB playing with the talent the Jets have on all sides of the ball would have won a SB by now, and not just "he took us to two AFC championships". He is the weakest part of that team, and is certainly not a top ten QB, or will ever be that kind of a QB.
Did you see the O-Line Sanchez had? Ware was at Sanchez throat at least 6 times in the game and Spencer was at Sanchez face twice.

The O-Line was so bad, that it amazes me how Sanchez got out of this in one piece. Considering how awful the line was, Sanchez getting the numbers he did and the big plays he did, is amazing in its self.

Jvig43
09-11-2011, 11:39 PM
Yeah we should all be astounded that the best pass rushing LB in the game got to Sanchez tonight.....

descendency
09-11-2011, 11:41 PM
16 25 64.0 194 7.8 3 127.3

That looks pretty good to me.

Are you playing the lottery today?

Thecollegedropout
09-11-2011, 11:43 PM
Yeah we should all be astounded that the best pass rushing LB in the game got to Sanchez tonight.....
And the fact that Sanchez was able to make plays in the 2nd half despite that is not too bad at all.

The 1st half was so poorly coached by Schotty that its hard to really gauge upon Mark on that. He is such a piss poor coordinator that I just hope he lands a coaching gig elsewhere next year.

gpngc
09-11-2011, 11:45 PM
I thought Sanchez played well.

Besides the turnovers, he was pretty ******* good considering new receivers, a good pass rush, and no help in the running game.

And Dallas' makeshift secondary didn't even play poorly. There were a few mistakes but it's not like Santonio ******* Holmes doesn't get open against starters. It's not like guys were running wide open all over the field. If they were open, he hit them - that's his job.

Scotty D
09-11-2011, 11:56 PM
Lions played pretty well today. Should have scored one or two more touchdowns instead of kicking field goals but Stafford didn't get sacked or have any QB hits recorded on him. Winning on the road in Tampa is a good way to start the season. Next up Kansas City at home.

gpngc
09-11-2011, 11:58 PM
Lions played pretty well today. Should have scored one or two more touchdowns instead of kicking field goals but Stafford didn't get sacked or have any QB hits recorded on him. Winning on the road in Tampa is a good way to start the season. Next up Kansas City at home.

I watched a lot of this game. WTF is Stafford's problem? He can't be touched without having an issue! It's frustrating. But my god, I love his arm.

Also I don't think Best is going to be able to run the ball consistently this year.

vidae
09-11-2011, 11:58 PM
Lions played pretty well today. Should have scored one or two more touchdowns instead of kicking field goals but Stafford didn't get sacked or have any QB hits recorded on him. Winning on the road in Tampa is a good way to start the season. Next up, beating Kansas City at home.

Fixed it for you!

Scotty D
09-12-2011, 12:02 AM
Fixed it for you!

Not going to lie. I like Detroit's chances right now.

I watched a lot of this game. WTF is Stafford's problem? He can't be touched without having an issue! It's frustrating. But my god, I love his arm.

Also I don't think Best is going to be able to run the ball consistently this year.

Are you talking about his leg? Everybody on the Lions was having problems with cramping.

Best is going to be a 15 touch guy who is a dangerous weapon in the receiving game. Jerome Harrison's role will grow and Morris is running pretty well.

JETS5128
09-12-2011, 12:02 AM
Get the **** out of here with this ********. I ******* could have thrown twice that with all of Dallas's starting DBs being out for the game.

Wow u need to relax dude and stop making ridiculous statements

If you want to throw in missed plenty of passes as a category fine, but thats going to be a big list at the end of the season if we should start keeping track, something that elite QBs don't do. Also how about the should have been interceptions? Or the actual bone headed interceptions, or the fumble?

Read what I said. He played a mediocre game and missed plenty of opportunites. That being said he still racked up over 300 yds and 2 tds which is a pretty good game.

Any elite QB playing with the talent the Jets have on all sides of the ball would have won a SB by now, and not just "he took us to two AFC championships". He is the weakest part of that team, and is certainly not a top ten QB, or will ever be that kind of a QB.

Hes been in the league for 2 years it boggles my mind that you cant imagine him at least marginally improving over the rest of his career

responses in bold

Jvig43
09-12-2011, 12:04 AM
I can see him marginally improving, him marginally improving however is not any where near where it will take for him to be considered elite Im sorry.

BigBanger
09-12-2011, 12:14 AM
As I was watching the 4 QT of the Cowboys-Jets game several people I was with, none of them being Cowboys fans, said, "It wasn't his fault." (when referring to the INT and the botched snap where he wasn't even looking when the center snapped it). I have been a little bit of a Romo apologist for quite some time now, and I'm no done with it. This kind of **** (turnovers, botched plays), in the 4th QT with minutes to go always happen to him. There is no more blame game. Those kind of plays, which lost Dallas the game, literally, lost them game, always happen to him in the most crucial situations. He lost Dallas the game in week 1. He, by himself, lost the game. He just threw it away. That's what he does late in games. He tends to make nice plays from time to time, usually has good stats and bangs some hot ******* broads, but at the end of the day, he's a loser. And he always will be. It's just who he is. I don't want the ball anywhere close to his hands with 3 minutes or less at the end of a half. The Cowboys will finish another season on the outside looking in. The Jets are the Jets. They barely beat a team they should crush, and only won because the game was handed to them. Paper Champions.



The Colts without Manning are ******* terrible. That defense is going to be so demoralized by the shockingly atrocious ineptitude that it turns a mediocre defense into one that's almost as bad as the Cardinals. I gave them no more than 5 wins this year because I was expecting Manning to play in no more than 5 games. I would be stunned if they win one game without Manning. He is the most important football player in the NFL to his team. That entire team is built on his shoulders.


The Redskins are exactly what I thought they were ... a really good team that needs a QB to simply manage the game. If Rex, and this is a huge IF, can stay turnover free, the Redskins are going to be a lot better than most people thought. Hightower is going well over 1,100 yards this season if he stays healthy.


The Steelers pass defense is terrible. Outside of Ike Taylor, they have nothing at CB. They refused to address CB in the draft or free agency. Their zone defense gets picked apart by any offense that is well above average (and they played an offense that wasn't well above average), and now it's getting picked apart by a team like the Ravens.

bantx
09-12-2011, 01:57 AM
Chargers looked great today I mean Rivers had a monster game even if he had 2 ints I mean one of them Jared Allen covering Mathews 1 on 1 who wouldn't throw it to Mathews in stride Allen played on the ball perfectly. Our defense is looking amazing holding it to 28 passing yards? Reguardless of what people say about McNabb sure he's not who he used to be but Chargers can never get credit for playing great against the pass like they've been doing since last season. It's always the other team playing bad not Chargers playing good. The opening run back at the beginning of the game is what kept it close for it hopefully our special teams won't be a problem again. Tolbert+Mathews is looking like a jizzfest.

JHL6719
09-12-2011, 02:52 AM
Never really understood the Mark Sanchez hate. He's a pretty damn good young quarterback. Not elite or anything yet, but the potential is absolutely there.

San Diego Chicken
09-12-2011, 03:41 AM
I'm happy for Lions and Bills fans that their teams had big road wins today. Those fanbases deserve a good season. I know the Bills don't have the talent on paper that the Lions do, and maybe the Chiefs suck or, just maybe the Bills are a pretty good team this year. They played well, give them credit. I'm pulling for both of those teams this year.

fenikz
09-12-2011, 03:49 AM
Good point but this AZ defense is worse so 500 and sits the 4th quarter

no way Clancy Pendergast alone makes that defense worse. Worst DC ever

mellojello
09-12-2011, 04:02 AM
Rex Grossman looked great today.

phlysac
09-12-2011, 06:50 AM
-Kevin Kolb & Cam Newton... both guys deserved wins, unlike SF-Seattle


How much of, and what about the SF-Sea game did you watch to determine that noone deserved to win?

M.O.T.H.
09-12-2011, 08:32 AM
I'm actually encouraged by Dallas' play. That is a very young team they threw out there. The offensive line performed very well in pass protection and the front 7 played very good football. I was worried about our run defense, but they were a wall. Dallas could be a lot better than I thought they would be this year. I'm not down on that loss at all. My expectations are actually heightened, after not being so high to begin with.

Say what you will about the Cards defense...there is no discrediting a performance like that out of a rookie QB, in his debut game, no less. He did not look like a rookie QB all game long. His mistakes were minimal...he saw the field beautifully, went through his progressions, looked defenders off, displayed outstanding accuracy on damn near all of his throws. And he took it down and scrambled, only when there was nothing there through the air. He was excepional. He stood tall against the blitz, and looked like a 10 year veteran. His confidence and pocket poise is astounding for a rookie. And these are the things we saw in the preseason, even when he struggled. This guy is not going to bust. I dont see that in anyway. As long as his accuracy holds up, he has all the makings of an incredible passer inside that pocket. He's guying to hit a rough road eventually, it's a given...but he is such a special talent. And as for Steve Smith...makes me real happy as an NFL fan, to see him look like the player of old. Looks like he can still be one of the more exciting players in the league, if healthy. The ability is still there.

Not surprised that the Chiefs and Bucs didnt look too hot. Like others, I thought these two had the best chances of taking a step back heading into this season. Well, I never expected the Chiefs to get bitched like that, but they were an overachieving team, imo. As for the Bucs, they're building someting really nice, but they're very young...them taking a step back, shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone if it happens. And I really like where the Lions are going anyway, so there is no shame in losing to them at all right now.

I love Bradford...but the guy has no help out there, especially with Amendola going down. Arizona should roll to a division title...even if that means 9-7. The Rams really need to put an onus on WR in next year's draft/off season. Get the guy some real weapons. The team is littered with 3s and 4s at WR.

They lossed, but Hass looked good for the Titans in the 2nd half, when he had time to throw the ball. Britt should be in for a monster season, and this makes me a happy man. Mccown did his job and drove the bus, but I dont really see them surprising or anything...running 50 times per game and trying to force the ball into Mike Thomas and Jason Hill against better defenses. They played a solid first game, though. They really got the best of the Titans o-line. Johnson didnt do any anthing and Hass was under a lot of pressure for the majority of the game.

Still not worried about Atlanta or Pittsburgh. They should both be fine. Hats off to the competition, though. It was nice to see Pitt face struggles they normally dont see, but I wouldnt expect this to become a trend, or anything.

Dalton was actually doing a decent job of managing the game...I really like that Jerome Simpson was his apparent #1 target. He was the go to guy, before Dalton went down. Simpson and Gresham got plenty of looks. Nice to see AJ Green make a big play, after a quiet start...even if it was a little lucky, I guess. Benson just did his job as the work horse...they did some good things. I really dont see a drop off if Gradkowski has to play...but it's not like they're going to have a good pass offense regardless this year, but they didnt play a bad game, overall. I'll give them that. The defense played tough.

The Giants dont scare me, but I'll never write them off. They'll always be a threat and competitive in NFC East games. JPP is a maninmal and Nicks can beat damn near anyone. I'm not drinking the Grossman koolaid, but you couldnt really ask for much more. He played very well. Now Kerrigan, he was impressive and my boy, Stephen Bowen, was a tough block all game as well. I really like the potential of that defense, it's well constructed.

Not much to say about the Colts...they're terrible, everyone expected a loss yesterday. And the Texans wont get much praise from me, until they finally make the playoffs...we all know how much talent they have. This should be the year...maybe.

I cant believe Kaeding went down again. ughhhh. But yeah, Rivers got his yards, like he always does and they just controlled the ball all game. I dislike the Vikes receiving core, aside from Percy, and Mcnabb didnt help matters.

Seattle and San Fran are both going to suck. Kudos to Ted Ginn...but, these two teams are pretty awful. I fully expect the Cowboys to steamroll the Niners next week, and the same thing can be said about Seattle against Pittsburgh next week.

cmarq83
09-12-2011, 08:33 AM
Did you see the O-Line Sanchez had? Ware was at Sanchez throat at least 6 times in the game and Spencer was at Sanchez face twice.

The O-Line was so bad, that it amazes me how Sanchez got out of this in one piece. Considering how awful the line was, Sanchez getting the numbers he did and the big plays he did, is amazing in its self.

That offensive line didn't even play that bad. Mark Sanchez got occasional pressure from Demarcus Ware and on a few blitzes where Sanchez hit his hot route receiver, but that was still a better line performance than about 80% of teams got this week. He had more than his fair share of clean pockets and performed adequately compared to what we expected from him. He checked down mostly and didn't make too many mistakes besides for the Lee interception. That is exactly what the Jets need him to do to win games.

Sanchez is nowhere near elite now, and will probably settle in as a middle of the road starter, but I think the Jets can win with him. That Jets O-line is a thing of beauty though. Slausen and Hunter are below average, but Mangold, D-Brick, and Moore make up for it. Every QB is going to face pressure in the situation that Sanchez was in. Most of the time it was a case of more blitzers than blockers or Hunter 1-on-1 with Ware, but Sanchez has to account for that. If he gets sacked in that situation that is on him.

Sanchez is still going to be the biggest liability on the Jets this season.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 08:37 AM
On Mike and Mike they have a segment where you describe a team's performance in 5 words or less. I'm going to give a few of my thoughts that way here:

Steelers - Defense: Old and Slow

Panthers - Newton is the real deal

Ravens - Ray Rice MVP

Chargers - Everything but special teams

Chiefs - Shaking my head...

Colts - Pre-order your Luck jersey

Cowboys - Romo is anti-clutch

Jets - Better lucky than good

Falcons - Top seed no more

Beano
09-12-2011, 09:05 AM
On Mike and Mike they have a segment where you describe a team's performance in 5 words or less. I'm going to give a few of my thoughts that way here:Rams - Same ****, different year.

vidae
09-12-2011, 09:10 AM
Not surprised that the Chiefs and Bucs didnt look too hot. Like others, I thought these two had the best chances of taking a step back heading into this season. Well, I never expected the Chiefs to get bitched like that, but they were an overachieving team, imo. As for the Bucs, they're building someting really nice, but they're very young...them taking a step back, shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone if it happens. And I really like where the Lions are going anyway, so there is no shame in losing to them at all right now.

So the Chiefs are an overachieving fraud of a team, but the Bucs, who had just as easy a schedule last year, are "building something really nice but are young"?

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 09:19 AM
My Bears reaction requires more than 5 words.

When I saw that we were starting the season against two straight playoff teams, I was worried. An 0-2 start was definitely possible.

But we badly beat Atlanta. Our defense matches up with their offense extremely well and their o-line was simply outmatched by our d-line. We got pressure with just our front 4 all day long, allowing us to drop our linebackers in coverage. Ryan could find anyone open and pass rush just started beating him up, especially in the 2nd half.

The o-line was pretty bad, but better than the "awful" they usually are. They gave up a few sacks, but they were mostly on John Abraham beating J'Marcus Webb.

Cutler had a great game, but there were two dropped interceptions that are worrying. The tip/pick/TD I won't hold against him since it was pretty a pretty freak occurrence. The game was well in hand by that point however.

Urlacher showed that he's still one of the league's best middle linebackers.

And of course, the defense as a whole was opportunistic as always. We limit your big plays and make you go the entire length of the field if you want to score. That gets awfully frustrating to an offense, and creates plenty of opportunities for you to make mistakes.

Kind of scatterbrained, but it was overall a good performance for the Bears. Next week will be interesting against a high octane offense in New Orleans. We match up with them worse than we do with the Falcons, but their offensive lined showed major weaknesses against the Packers which we hopefully take advantage of.

Splat
09-12-2011, 09:19 AM
The Chiefs did overachieve last year.

Charlie Weis made Cassel and the OL look better than they really are and they took advantage of a week schedule.

vidae
09-12-2011, 09:23 AM
I have a friend who is a huge Bears fan, so I hear about every game from him in detail, and he pretty much said what you did.

How'd Forte look yesterday?

killxswitch
09-12-2011, 09:28 AM
As one of the few Colts fans on this board I'd love to try to convince you all that they're going to get better, that Collins only had 3 weeks to learn the offense, he's rusty, the OL has 4 new starters and should get better, they'll run more, etc.

But there's no explaining the defense. Ever projected starter was healthy and available for this game. After the first series or two, they just gave up. No heart, no passion, no pride. Every time the camera showed a Colts player on the bench it was the same 1000 yard stare at nothing.

This team just isn't very good. The receivers, D-ends, Addai, and rookies are all good or promising. Beyond that, I have to wonder how many of these guys would make other NFL teams.

To compound the problem, the Colts have the worst coaching staff in the NFL. Caldwell has no idea what he's doing and his staff follows his lead.

I can't believe how much this team relies on Manning. I knew they did, a lot. But not to this extent.

M.O.T.H.
09-12-2011, 09:32 AM
So the Chiefs are an overachieving fraud of a team, but the Bucs, who had just as easy a schedule last year, are "building something really nice but are young"?

Not what I meant...I like what you guys are building as well. And I did say I expected the Bucs to take a step back also. I just used the "overachieving" monikor, because you guys actually won a division title. Really, you could say both teams overachieved. I like the direction both teams are going in, I just think it's likely that they both find it tough to duplicate, or exceed such success this year. It happens with these young teams all the time. Reaching that next level isnt easy. And we see these unexpectedly good young teams, follow up a a surprise good season, with a let down all the time. And given the youth of each team...it's not surprising to see them both start off the season with a loss. A lot of people have been making this prediction. It's a long season yet, still plenty of time to prove doubters wrong.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 09:34 AM
I have a friend who is a huge Bears fan, so I hear about every game from him in detail, and he pretty much said what you did.

How'd Forte look yesterday?

He was pretty awesome. The o-line didn't always give him much to work with on the ground, but he's (surprisingly) one of the league's most dangerous runners in space. If he catches the ball with some space, look out.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 09:41 AM
Also:

Including the playoffs, the Falcons have now lost their last two games by a combined score 78-33.

Their defense is their biggest problem, but their offense didnt' look too good yesterday either. (6 points)

SimonRath
09-12-2011, 10:24 AM
Also:



Their defense is their biggest problem, but their offense didnt' look too good yesterday either. (6 points)

Our O-line looked terrible yesterday! Our D shoulda had 2 picks in the beginning of the game which coulda changed the outcome completely but our CB's were also terrible. Dunta looked completely lost out there and Grimes didn't have his best game either. Matt Ryan just confuses the living **** outta me. It seems like he is only comfortable with dink and dunk **** and never looks for the big play :/

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 10:30 AM
Our O-line looked terrible yesterday! Our D shoulda had 2 picks in the beginning of the game which coulda changed the outcome completely but our CB's were also terrible. Dunta looked completely lost out there and Grimes didn't have his best game either. Matt Ryan just confuses the living **** outta me. It seems like he is only comfortable with dink and dunk **** and never looks for the big play :/

I mentioned the two dropped picks in my Bears write up on the previous page. Definite Cutlerceptions if you held onto them. They were both dropped by DeCoud I believe, right?

I don't know that it would have changed too much though. Might have kept a few points off the board on our end, but unless you returned them for TDs, they probably wouldn't have led to much. Our defense just had your offense's number all day.

SimonRath
09-12-2011, 10:39 AM
I mentioned the two dropped picks in my Bears write up on the previous page. Definite Cutlerceptions if you held onto them. They were both dropped by DeCoud I believe, right?

I don't know that it would have changed too much though. Might have kept a few points off the board on our end, but unless you returned them for TDs, they probably wouldn't have led to much. Our defense just had your offense's number all day.

Both DeCoud and Grimes had a shot at both of them and you never know, the picks coulda sparked our O to actually do something despite how epic your D was all day

ATLDirtyBirds
09-12-2011, 10:51 AM
I mentioned the two dropped picks in my Bears write up on the previous page. Definite Cutlerceptions if you held onto them. They were both dropped by DeCoud I believe, right?

I don't know that it would have changed too much though. Might have kept a few points off the board on our end, but unless you returned them for TDs, they probably wouldn't have led to much. Our defense just had your offense's number all day.


Yes, DeCoud dropped two off of Grimes pass deflections.

And while Matt Ryan certainly didn't have a fantastic game, I'm really not putting this one on him. Playing the game over in my head, Ryan went through his progressions very nicely. He had to check down a lot because Julio and Roddy were not getting open deep. Overall though, Ryan appeared to have a bit more zip on the ball than usual, and more accuracy. Definitely a few drops.


Edit: Just read on a Falcons site what PFF had to say about the game. Apparently they agree with me about the WRs not doing their part. 5 drops as well. And it looks like Dunta and Chris Owens (shocker) were some of the main culprits for all those wide open receivers.

J-Mike88
09-12-2011, 11:00 AM
Week One had 11 QBs who passed well enough to have a 100+ passer rating:

1 Ryan Fitzpatrick 133.0
2 Aaron Rodgers 132.1
3 Kevin Kolb 130.0
4 Matthew Stafford 118.9
5 Joe Flacco 117.6
6 Drew Brees 112.5
7 Rex Grossman 110.5
8 Cam Newton 110.4
9 Jay Cutler 107.8
10 Andy Dalton 102.4
11 Tony Romo 101.9

All won their games except Brees, Romo, and Newton, FWIW.

Rosebud
09-12-2011, 11:03 AM
I learned that Eli and JPP isn't enough to win games in the NFL if your OL still hasn't gelled, receivers still don't know what routes they're supposed to run, injuries have wiped out half of your starting defense and your DC stays in a soft zone all game.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 11:06 AM
I learned that Eli and JPP isn't enough to win games in the NFL if your OL still hasn't gelled, receivers still don't know what routes they're supposed to run, injuries have wiped out half of your starting defense and your DC stays in a soft zone all game.

I'm still stunned that the Giants didn't bring back Boss. He has been Eli's safety blanket for the last several seasons and you were down to your what, 3rd TE due to injury?

Giantsfan1080
09-12-2011, 11:11 AM
I'm still stunned that the Giants didn't bring back Boss. He has been Eli's safety blanket for the last several seasons and you were down to your what, 3rd TE due to injury?

Ballard actually played well yesterday and did what Boss would have done pretty much. Boss only had 37 catches last year and it's not like teams had to gameplan for him. Ballard had 2 very big catches for us yesterday and will probably get 25-30 receptions given the opportunity. I don't know why everyone is making Boss this player he's really not. I loved the guy as a Giant but he wasn't as big a loss as everyone thinks because in our offensive sytem the TE just isn't important. He might put up bigger numbers with Oakland but it still shouldn't reflect that if he stayed with us he wouldn't have the same statistical output.

nepg
09-12-2011, 11:13 AM
Not what I meant...I like what you guys are building as well. And I did say I expected the Bucs to take a step back also. I just used the "overachieving" monikor, because you guys actually won a division title. Really, you could say both teams overachieved. I like the direction both teams are going in, I just think it's likely that they both find it tough to duplicate, or exceed such success this year. It happens with these young teams all the time. Reaching that next level isnt easy. And we see these unexpectedly good young teams, follow up a a surprise good season, with a let down all the time. And given the youth of each team...it's not surprising to see them both start off the season with a loss. A lot of people have been making this prediction. It's a long season yet, still plenty of time to prove doubters wrong.
Eh... Maybe the offense overachieved a little bit because they only had one receiver along with one TE all year, but the Chiefs should have won 13 games if you look back on it. They convert on third down with any bit of competency against the Colts, Raiders (1), and Texans, and they're an 8-0 team through the first 9 weeks. 95% of that was playcalling, too. So it wasn't even the players, necessarily.

This year, they're a much more talented team in every regard, but have some changes going on and they just took a different approach to the pre-season than the rest of the league. That hurt them in Week 1, but we'll see if it turns out to be a boon later in the year.

They need to tighten up their execution in every phase, but they're really not that far off from being where they should be. The Buffalo game sucked...really sucked, but it's just one game and it really didn't show what kind of a team the Chiefs are going to be this year.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 11:15 AM
Ballard actually played well yesterday and did what Boss would have done pretty much. Boss only had 37 catches last year and it's not like teams had to gameplan for him. Ballard had 2 very big catches for us yesterday and will probably get 25-30 receptions given the opportunity. I don't know why everyone is making Boss this player he's really not. I loved the guy as a Giant but he wasn't as big a loss as everyone thinks because in our offensive sytem the TE just isn't important. He might put up bigger numbers with Oakland but it still shouldn't reflect that if he stayed with us he wouldn't have the same statistical output.

But Boss, along with Steve Smith, were two guys who knew their place in the offense and were guys Eli seemed to trust. I think they're going to be missed more as the season goes on.

Giantsfan1080
09-12-2011, 11:17 AM
But Boss, along with Steve Smith, were two guys who knew their place in the offense and were guys Eli seemed to trust. I think they're going to be missed more as the season goes on.

Smith I couldn't agree more. He knew the offense the best besides Eli. He was always there when Eli needed him in a big spot. Boss is somewhat similar but in the end he isn't a huge loss. Like I said Ballard will come very close to replicating what Boss did for us. He's a smart guy who will pick up the offense quick and he's also a good blocker. I hope he gets the starts over Beckum.

Rosebud
09-12-2011, 11:18 AM
But Boss, along with Steve Smith, were two guys who knew their place in the offense and were guys Eli seemed to trust. I think they're going to be missed more as the season goes on.

If the receivers don't get smarter over the course of the season you're right. Killdrive's retardedly complicated offense is really hard for guys to get a handle on, that's why it sucks so much that the Iggles stole Steve Smith, but Boss isn't that big of a deal, sure he knew were he had to be because for the most part he ran only a couple of routes. To be honest I'm much more concerned about our OL gelling ASAP, cause that screws up our running game and passing game, and with the talent along the OL our running game could be beastly once they all gel.

AHungryWalrus
09-12-2011, 11:19 AM
Are you playing the lottery today?

(His stats in the playoffs last year against you)

M.O.T.H.
09-12-2011, 11:23 AM
Looked like an IP address or something at a first glance.

Iamcanadian
09-12-2011, 11:40 AM
Eh... Maybe the offense overachieved a little bit because they only had one receiver along with one TE all year, but the Chiefs should have won 13 games if you look back on it. They convert on third down with any bit of competency against the Colts, Raiders (1), and Texans, and they're an 8-0 team through the first 9 weeks. 95% of that was playcalling, too. So it wasn't even the players, necessarily.

This year, they're a much more talented team in every regard, but have some changes going on and they just took a different approach to the pre-season than the rest of the league. That hurt them in Week 1, but we'll see if it turns out to be a boon later in the year.

They need to tighten up their execution in every phase, but they're really not that far off from being where they should be. The Buffalo game sucked...really sucked, but it's just one game and it really didn't show what kind of a team the Chiefs are going to be this year.

Sorry, but when you lose to Buffalo at home, who has an owner who has zero committment to winning, you can expect a long, long season.

nepg
09-12-2011, 11:49 AM
Sorry, but when you lose to Buffalo at home, who has an owner who has zero committment to winning, you can expect a long, long season.
Unique off-season. No way to tell where most teams are going after the first game. The Chiefs certainly have to flip a switch, but losing the first game doesn't really mean that much other than they're 0-1 so far. Does it suck? Oh yeah. Sucks real bad.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 11:51 AM
Why Kansas City shouldn't be too scared:

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameid=230907002

Still sucks. That was a pathetic showing.

nepg
09-12-2011, 12:00 PM
Yeah. Buffalo does that on occasion. Which is why I'm really not that worried at this point.

T-RICH49
09-12-2011, 12:04 PM
I'm still very embarassed about yesterday.but now I'm worried about Berry's injury.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 12:05 PM
Yeah. Buffalo does that on occasion. Which is why I'm really not that worried at this point.

Buffalo finished 6-10 that season too...

vidae
09-12-2011, 12:20 PM
I'm not taking anything away from Buffalo, but even if the Chiefs WERE overachievers last year, we are better than that garbage yesterday.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 12:21 PM
Is there any news on Eric Berry? I've heard nothing.

vidae
09-12-2011, 12:23 PM
Some reported it was just cramps, but he came out of the locker room with one of his knees wrapped. Early report was an MCL SPRAIN, not a tear, but the Chiefs never give out any information so who knows. Best case scenario it's a sprain and he's out 4-6 weeks.. worst case.. yeah.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 12:24 PM
Some reported it was just cramps, but he came out of the locker room with one of his knees wrapped. Early report was an MCL SPRAIN, not a tear, but the Chiefs never give out any information so who knows. Best case scenario it's a sprain and he's out 4-6 weeks.. worst case.. yeah.

This wouldn't have happened if you just took Bulaga....just saying is all....

EvilNixon
09-12-2011, 12:24 PM
Queefs getting blown out <3

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 12:25 PM
Queefs getting blown out <3

I wouldn't talk until after your team plays at least...getting destroyed by Denver would be a lot worse looking.

vidae
09-12-2011, 12:25 PM
This wouldn't have happened if you just took Bulaga....just saying is all....

WWaLxFIVX1s

vidae
09-12-2011, 12:27 PM
Queefs getting blown out <3

Can't defend it, we played like ****. Enjoy the trash talking while it lasts cuz the Broncos are about to open a can of whoop ass!

I wouldn't talk until after your team plays at least...getting destroyed by Denver would be a lot worse looking.

I wouldn't talk until my team had a winning season in the last, oh I don't know, eight years? But Raiders fans do love to talk!

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 12:37 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/12/jim-caldwell-its-all-correctable/

Jim Caldwell....

“There is no question I believe it’s all correctable,” Caldwell said.

“Our team is going to get better and improve,” Caldwell said.

Unless your cold, soulless body is taken over by the spirit of Vince Lombardi, no, it is not correctable. The Colts are a joke of a team right now.

V.I.P
09-12-2011, 12:37 PM
Since our game was blacked out, NFL.com gives the option of replaying the game for free in HD for 72hrs.

I can't bare to watch that **** again.

killxswitch
09-12-2011, 12:57 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/12/jim-caldwell-its-all-correctable/

Jim Caldwell....



Unless your cold, soulless body is taken over by the spirit of Vince Lombardi, no, it is not correctable. The Colts are a joke of a team right now.

Caldwell's comments are worthless. You'd think his programmers could've written a little more dialog though. The canned responses make it pretty obvious.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 12:59 PM
Caldwell's comments are worthless. You'd think his programmers could've written a little more dialog though. The canned responses make it pretty obvious.

His positronic net wasn't designed to function without Peyton Manning at QB. By the time Manning actually retired, the plan was for Caldwell to have been replaced with a newer model. Having Caldwell try to coach without Manning is like trying to have your digital wristwatch browse the internet.

T-RICH49
09-12-2011, 01:01 PM
Is there any news on Eric Berry? I've heard nothing.

trying to getinfo out of KC is like trying to learn Mandarin Chinese

T-RICH49
09-12-2011, 01:27 PM
@ getnickwright

for those asking about Berry, I'm working on confirmation, but what I'm hearing is not good.really not good #Chiefs


I hope he wrong but if he's not here we come Luck or Jeffery

vidae
09-12-2011, 01:30 PM
If we take a WR that high I'm going to be ******* pissed, but this is all a bit premature.

vikes_28
09-12-2011, 01:35 PM
The vikes sucked. And that's all there is to it. they brought in mcnabb to have some "veteran presence" That is a load of **** if they don't throw the ball with him.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 01:37 PM
The vikes sucked. And that's all there is to it. they brought in mcnabb to have some "veteran presence" That is a load of **** if they don't throw the ball with him.

McNabb is and always has been grossly overrated. He probably didn't bother to learn the offense and then refused to wear a armband with the plays. The reason they didn't pass much was probably because he only knew about 2 plays.

T-RICH49
09-12-2011, 01:38 PM
Eric Berry torn ACL done for year....RIP 2011 KC Chiefs season

vidae
09-12-2011, 01:40 PM
Yeap, being reported by multiple sources. Eric Berry is out for the 2011 season.

Everyone get your TEs ready!

Beano
09-12-2011, 01:45 PM
Never nice seeing anyone go down for a season ending injury this early in the season, even worse when it's a young guy with the potential that Berry has.

SolidGold
09-12-2011, 01:47 PM
That sucks about Berry. Also losing Castillo hurts the chargers.

vidae
09-12-2011, 01:47 PM
I hope he can be the same player afterwards. You hear all the time about ACL/MCL tears and them being different players.. ugh. This is ******* awful.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 01:48 PM
I hope he can be the same player afterwards. You hear all the time about ACL/MCL tears and them being different players.. ugh. This is ******* awful.

If there's one bright spot, it's that it happened early in the season. He'll miss this one, but he should be ready to go by next season. If this happened late in the year, there would some question about it.

Splat
09-12-2011, 01:48 PM
I hate life.

ATLDirtyBirds
09-12-2011, 01:50 PM
Ouch. That's 18 months before there's a possibility of him being himself again. Really unfortunate. Such a stud.

vidae
09-12-2011, 01:54 PM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/berry.gif

The same thing could have been accomplished by shoving him with his arms.. Berry didn't look like he even saw Johnson coming.. but instead, helmet to knee. Awesome.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 01:56 PM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~gochiefs/berry.gif

The same thing could have been accomplished by shoving him with his arms.. Berry didn't look like he even saw Johnson coming.. but instead, helmet to knee. Awesome.

God must have told Stevie to do it.

killxswitch
09-12-2011, 02:02 PM
Sucks about Berry. I hope he can come back the same player next year. Who replaces him?

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 02:03 PM
Sucks about Berry. I hope he can come back the same player next year. Who replaces him?

You can put another warm body in his position on the field, but no one truly replaces the Eric Berry.

killxswitch
09-12-2011, 02:06 PM
You can put another warm body in his position on the field, but no one truly replaces the Eric Berry.

Sure, but it's not like the entire season is lost because a safety went down. There are plenty of good players on the Chiefs still.

bantx
09-12-2011, 02:08 PM
I mean there wasn't much hope to begin with, but with Berry gone there's like none.

vidae
09-12-2011, 02:09 PM
We have a tough schedule this year and to lose players like Moeaki and Berry, who contributed a lot to us winning the division last year, is just awful.

Berry gave our defense some swagger, and as for replacing him on the field, who the **** knows. Our safety depth was my biggest concern (DB depth in general, really) this offseason so now we're properly ****** from the start.

vidae
09-12-2011, 02:12 PM
I mean there wasn't much hope to begin with, but with Berry gone there's like none.

You're such a clown. First you actually cheer when Berry gets hurt (classy!) and now posts like this. Pathetic.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 02:12 PM
An 0-3 start is likely in the works. Detroit and San Diego should womp the Chiefs pretty good. After that it eases up a bit with Minny, Indy and Oakland.

Still, a rough start to the season.

bantx
09-12-2011, 02:18 PM
You're such a clown. First you actually cheer when Berry gets hurt (classy!) and now posts like this. Pathetic.

Don't be mad vidae, giving sarf a high five is cheering then ok. It's only funny becaue the way you were talking up the Chiefs in the off seasons and talking how you made it sound like the Chiefs were the clear cut winnings to the division, but it only took Chargers having the worst special teams in the history of special teams and huge loses from injuries we got for the chiefs to limp in.

It only makes the chiefs losing to the bills in this fashion making it that much better.

T-RICH49
09-12-2011, 02:27 PM
I hate life.

I echo this 1,000,000,000%

T-RICH49
09-12-2011, 02:31 PM
over/under 200 yards recieving and 2 TD's for Megatron Sunday?

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 02:42 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/12/stevie-johnson-says-block-that-tore-eric-berrys-acl-wasnt-a-cheap-shot/

Stevie defends his block and attacks the English language.

“man shutup U clown ILL NEVER CHEAPSHOT A PLAYER ON THE FIELD! IDC if he my Enemy U Square! Last I checked a cut block was legal!”

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 02:54 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/12/norv-turner-confirms-nate-kaeding-is-out-for-the-year/

Well Chiefs fans, Eric Berry wasn't the only one in the division to tear an ACL this week.

nobodyinparticular
09-12-2011, 02:56 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/12/norv-turner-confirms-nate-kaeding-is-out-for-the-year/

Well Chiefs fans, Eric Berry wasn't the only one in the division to tear an ACL this week.

Wow. Sucks for the Chargers. He was this 4th best specialist in the AFCW (behind Jano, Lechler and Scifres). He's probably a top 5 kicker in the league.

bantx
09-12-2011, 02:57 PM
Yeah he's accurate as hell in the regular preseason, but playoffs is a different story. Sci-fye stepped in and kicked a 40 yarder making it look easy. Castillo is also out for the season, but with our rotation at D-line I'm not too worried he's replaceable especially with Luiget playing pretty well.

EDit the article says they don't know how long castillo will be out, but I've heard it's a year but who knows.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 02:59 PM
Why don't teams try to find guys who can do both more often? Save on a roster spot in this day and age.

bantx
09-12-2011, 03:15 PM
Definitely, but we're already looking for another Kicker to replace Kaeding as we speak. Sci-fye is usually the place holder since he had to kick just found out that Weddle was the one that stepped in to take his job. Both earning their new contracts? I think so :]

jrdrylie
09-12-2011, 04:12 PM
Interesting statistic. Jay Cutler is 22-0 as a starter when he has a passer rating or 100 or above. I'd like to see the league wide statistic on this because that has to be some sort of record.

Saints-Tigers
09-12-2011, 05:20 PM
I'd like to apologize for doubting Beer Baron on how done Kreutz is.

Bengalsrocket
09-12-2011, 05:25 PM
Why don't teams try to find guys who can do both more often? Save on a roster spot in this day and age.

Because they serve as each other's back ups. I'd hate to enter a game, march down the field and have my kicker get injured on an early field goal attempt then spend nearly 4 quarters with out a real kicker just because I decided to save on ONE roster spot.

Raiderz4Life
09-12-2011, 05:28 PM
ahaha this is the Raiders chance to win the West like they should have last year! Ahaha

Sadly though, they'll find a way to **** it all up. I has a sad =(

keylime_5
09-12-2011, 05:30 PM
I'd like to apologize for doubting Beer Baron on how done Kreutz is.

In all fairness a lot of people look like they're done when they have to play the Packers' nose tackles.

BeerBaron
09-12-2011, 06:48 PM
In all fairness a lot of people look like they're done when they have to play the Packers' nose tackles.

Packers...Lions, Vikings, Giants, Dolphins, Patriots, PANTHERS...

He looked done vs. them all since about 07.

And in New Orleans, he managed to take those pro bowl guards down with him.

Splat
09-12-2011, 07:08 PM
You're such a clown. First you actually cheer when Berry gets hurt (classy!) and now posts like this. Pathetic.

Don't worry vidae we can watch SD choke in the playoffs together...

vidae
09-12-2011, 07:26 PM
Don't worry vidae we can watch SD choke in the playoffs together...

It's a date! It's too bad it'll only last one week, but I'll bring the popcorn!

Raiderz4Life
09-12-2011, 07:39 PM
It's a date! It's too bad it'll only last one week, but I'll bring the popcorn!

I'll gladly let you root for the Raiders...even if its only for this season =P

vidae
09-12-2011, 07:43 PM
I'll gladly let you root for the Raiders...even if its only for this season =P

We both know that could never happen. Me cheering for the Raiders or you cheering for the Chiefs.. it is against the very fiber of our beings. We would rather DIE! You know this to be true!

Splat
09-12-2011, 07:46 PM
I'll gladly let you root for the Raiders...even if its only for this season =P

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