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JohnCandy
11-02-2011, 11:13 AM
Given the following list how would you rank the WRs and what round do you see them going?

Justin Blackmon
Jauron Criner
Michael Floyd
Dwight Jones
Alshon Jeffrey
Ryan Broyles
Nick Toon
Jeff Fuller

Do you have any dark horse prospects?

bucfan12
11-02-2011, 11:23 AM
1. Michael Floyd
2. Justin Blackmon
3. Alshon Jeffery
4. Nick Toon
5. Jauran Criner
6. Ryan Broyles
7. Jeff Fuller

A Perfect Score
11-02-2011, 11:26 AM
1. Justin Blackmon
2. Michael Floyd
3. Alshon Jeffery
4. Ryan Broyles
5. Nick Toon
6. Jeff Fuller
7. Jauran Criner

That's just ranking the ones you listed. I really love Greg Childs in Arkansas too.

JohnCandy
11-02-2011, 11:28 AM
1. Justin Blackmon
2. Michael Floyd
3. Alshon Jeffery
4. Ryan Broyles
5. Nick Toon
6. Jeff Fuller
7. Jauran Criner

That's just ranking the ones you listed. I really love Greg Childs in Arkansas too.

Why is Fuller so low for you?

I only ask because I know he has a solid game last season against LSU and Patrick Peterson and he has a great build.

Is Fuller a solid 2nd round pick at this point?

FootballGod
11-02-2011, 11:32 AM
1. Justin Blackmon 1st round
2. Michael Floyd 1st round
3. Alshon Jeffrey 1st round
4. Jauron Criner 2nd round
5. Ryan Broyles 2nd round
6. Dwight Jones 3rd round
7. Jeff Fuller 3rd round
8. Nick Toon 3rd round

AntoinCD
11-02-2011, 11:35 AM
Justin Blackmon-Top 15
Michael FLoyd-Top 25
Alshon Jeffrey-Top 25
Mahommad Sanu-First Round
Ryan Broyles-Late First/Early Second
Juron Criner-Second Round
Jeff Fuller-Second Round

Dro
11-02-2011, 01:16 PM
im surprised to only see dwight jones on 1 of these lists..

jrdrylie
11-02-2011, 01:34 PM
1. Blackmon
2. Michael Floyd
3. Mohamed Sanu
4. Alshon Jeffrey
5. Ryan Broyles
6. Dwight Jones
7. Nick Toon
8. Jauron Criner
9. Jeff Fuller

TY Hilton as the dark horse. He is undersized, but if he runs in the 4.3 range, I could see him sneaking into the second round.

Big Bird
11-02-2011, 02:28 PM
Nick Toon doesn't belong in the Top 10. It's really sad people are overrating this guy this badly because when he gets into the NFL, it's going to be a rude awakening.

1. Justin Blackmon-Oklahoma State
2. Alshon Jeffrey-South Carolina
3. Michael Floyd-Notre Dame
4. Mohamed Sanu-Rutgers
5. Jeff Fuller-Texas A&M
6. Dwight Jones-North Carolina
7. Brian Quick-Appalachian State
8. Jarius Wright-Arkansas
9. Ryan Broyles-Oklahoma
10. Juron Criner-Arizona

That would be my Top 10 for now. The Top 3 are locked in, but the rest could see some movement. I would have Lance Lewis, A.J. Jenkins, Marvin McNutt, Chris Owusu, and Nick Toon behind them, probably in that order actually.

I still don't get what Jarius Wright has to do to get respect. The guy is an ideal slot receiver. He'll be gone in the 2nd Round because a team that runs a lot of 3 wide is going to fall in love with him.

AntoinCD
11-02-2011, 02:31 PM
Marvin McNutt is a guy I really like but he is going to time pretty slowly at the combine which will hurt him. Probable third rounder IMO

keylime_5
11-02-2011, 02:42 PM
Justin Blackmon
Michael Floyd
Alshon Jeffery
Mohamed Sanu
Jarius Wright
Ryan Broyles
Dwight Jones
DeVier Posey
Nick Toon
AJ Jenkins
Jeff Fuller
Denard Robinson

murdamal86
11-02-2011, 03:09 PM
Some seem split on where to rank Mohamed Sanu and i see not much AJ Jenkins love in here

Ozzy
11-02-2011, 04:54 PM
Here is how I would rank the current receivers in the upcoming draft. A lot of which will be undrafted. Most of the bottom guys I would project in the 6th or 7th round again could clearly go undrafted as well.


WR
Michael Floyd Notre Dame (1st)
Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State RS JR (1st)
Alshon Jeffery South Carolina JR (1st)
Mohamed Sanu Rutgers JR (1st)
Ryan Broyles Oklahoma RS (2nd)
Jeff Fuller Texas A&M (2nd)
Dwight Jones UNC (2-3)
Jarius Wright Arkansas (2-3)
Stephen Hill Georgia Tech JR (2-3)
Kendall Wright Baylor (2-3)
Chris Owusu Stanford (3)
Joe Adams Arkansas (2-3)
Juron Criner Arizona (2-3)
Marvin McNutt Iowa (3)
BJ Cunningham Michigan State (4)
Greg Childs Arkansas (4)
Nick Toon Wisconsin (3-4)
AJ Jenkins Illinois (3-4)
TJ Graham NC State (4-5)
Jermaine Kearse Washington (4-5)
Travis Benjamin Miami FL (4-6)
Mike Willie Arizona State (5-6)
Derek Moye Penn State (6-7)
DJ Woods Cincinnati (6-7)
Junior Hemingway Michigan (7)
Keith Nichol Michigan State (7)
Dejuan Miller Oklahoma (6-7)
Marquis Maze Alabama (7)
Keshawn Martin Michigan State (6-7)
DeVier Posey Ohio State
Nelson Rosario UCLA
Jarrett Boykin Virginia Tech
LaRon Byrd Miami FL
Damarlo Belcher Indiana
Da'Jon McKnight Minnesota
Damaris Johnson Tulsa
James Rodgers Oregon State
Jarmon Forston NA
Rod Streater Temple
Gino Crump Arizona
Antoine Hicks TCU
Taiwan Easterling Florida State
Bert Reed Florida State
Roy Roundtree Michigan
Malcolm Williams Texas
Aldarius Johnson Miami FL
Martavious Odoms Michigan
Taylor Embree UCLA



In terms of dark horse guys, I would say Damarlo Belcher could surprise a lot of people and improve his stock. Same with Mike Willie, I really like him, along with Jermaine Kearse, he is a solid route runner, good athlete and nice hands.

TaylorMade
11-02-2011, 06:39 PM
Guys I think are good:

1. Alshon Jeffery - top 15
2. Michael Floyd - top 15
3. Mohamed Sanu - mid 1st-late 1st
4. Reuben Randle - 2nd round
5. Ryan Broyles - late 2nd/early 3rd
6. Juron Criner - 4th/5 round

Guys I wouldn't touch
1. Justin Blackmon - top 15
2. Nick Toon - 2nd round
3. Dwight Jones - 2nd round
4. Kendall Wright - late 2nd/early 3rd
5. Jeff Fuller - late 2nd/early 3rd
6. Jermaine Kearse - early 3rd/mid 3rd

Need to see more of TY Hilton

ElectricEye
11-02-2011, 08:28 PM
1. Michael Floyd
2. Justin Blackmon
3. Alshon Jeffrey
4. Dwight Jones
5. Mohammed Sanu
6. Kendall Wright
7. Ryan Broyles
8. Nick Toon

Other names I really like; TY Hilton, Brian Quick, Chris Owusu.

Really down on this class overall. Some nice players, but not much more. Fuller and Criner are guys I'm just not sold on whatsoever, but if we're basing it on order they will be drafted in as apposed to personal rankings, they would be mixed right in there. Still think both of them end up being drafted below Jones and Sanu.

Don Vito
11-02-2011, 08:49 PM
Greg Childs has fallen off quite a bit from last year but a lot of thats because Adams and Wright have stepped up.

rawdawg
11-02-2011, 08:53 PM
Given the following list how would you rank the WRs and what round do you see them going?

Justin Blackmon
Jauron Criner
Michael Floyd
Dwight Jones
Alshon Jeffrey
Ryan Broyles
Nick Toon
Jeff Fuller

Do you have any dark horse prospects?

Blackmon - 1st round, top 10
Floyd - 1st round top 15
Jeffrey - 1st round
Jones - 2nd round
Toon - 2nd rounder
Fuller - 3rd round
Broyles - 3rd round
Criner - 3rd round

is how I would rank them. I also think Sanu is a 1st rounder. Other guys I really like that aren't on the list you named are Kendall Wright (like him better than Broyles as a slot WR) and Jermaine Kearse (may be faster than anyone named above).

For dark horse, I'm going to go with Marvin Jones, Jordan White and Chris Owusu.

ToldLikeItIs
11-03-2011, 12:15 AM
McNutt won't time poorly.

He's a 2nd rounder.

TheSlinger
11-03-2011, 01:21 AM
Justin Blackmon
Michael Floyd
A.J. Jenkins
Kendall Wright
Dwight Jones
Alshon Jeffrey
Rueben Randle
Ryan Broyles
Marvin McNutt
Jeff Fuller
T.Y. Hilton
Jauron Criner

TitanHope
11-03-2011, 01:34 AM
I really love Greg Childs in Arkansas too.

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Greg Childs Please is my 4th favorite WR in this draft.

TheSlinger
11-03-2011, 02:56 AM
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Greg Childs Please is my 4th favorite WR in this draft.

Which of his 9 catches is your favourite?

Duffman57
11-03-2011, 03:01 AM
Is there any Steve Smith type receivers, who are very good speed guys, but play way bigger than they are and are really physical for a speed guy?

rawdawg
11-03-2011, 06:23 AM
Is there any Steve Smith type receivers, who are very good speed guys, but play way bigger than they are and are really physical for a speed guy?

Not really. I think every WR under 6' is also 190lbs or less. And most of them are slot type guys.

jrdrylie
11-03-2011, 08:05 AM
Stephen Hill Georgia Tech JR (2-3)


This surprises me. I've seen all of Georgia Tech's games from the last three years and I don't think Stephen Hill is anywhere near as good a prospect as Demaryious Thomas. His hands looks worse. He doesn't look as fast. He isn't as physical. I guess if he blows up at the combine he might slip into the 3rd round, but I don't see it.

Guys I wouldn't touch
1. Justin Blackmon - top 15
Need to see more of TY Hilton

Really? I think he is much better than Jeffery. What about him do you not like? As for Hilton, he isn't a first rounder, but you should definitely give him a look because he is an electrifying player.

JohnCandy
11-03-2011, 11:35 AM
What are the opinions of Mohamed Sanu?

I watched some highlight tapes of him and he looks like a RB when the ball gets into his hands.

DeathbyStat
11-03-2011, 12:48 PM
1. Justin Blackmon

2.Michael Floyd

3.Alshon Jeffrey

4.Dwight Jones

5.Ryan Broyles

6.Nick Toon

7.Jauron Criner

8.Jeff Fuller

I agree with others, Wright, Sanu and Hilton could be solid prospects.

TaylorMade
11-03-2011, 05:03 PM
Re: Blackmon

Really? I think he is much better than Jeffery. What about him do you not like?

I don't see elite body control when the ball is in the air for Blackmon.

I'll add WR Marvin Jones out of Cal as a sleeper!

thegreatone
11-03-2011, 05:36 PM
Ryan Broyles seems like a cross between Derrick Mason and Steve Smith. (other one)

Agree/Disagree?

Dallas357
11-03-2011, 05:50 PM
with the 6th overall pick in the 2012 draft. The Jaguars select Wr. Ok State. Justin Blackmon.

rawdawg
11-03-2011, 07:08 PM
What are the opinions of Mohamed Sanu?

I watched some highlight tapes of him and he looks like a RB when the ball gets into his hands.

I'm a huge fan of Sanu. I've said before he reminds me of a bigger Percy Harvin. He's not nearly as fast, but I think he's the best combination of size, speed, and open field ability in the draft. He's more athlete than WR at this point, but he's getting there pretty fast. A guy that can play outside or in the slot. Not going to be a deep threat, but can do everything else a WR needs to do. I like him in the 3-step game to get off the line and get open quick on a slant or an out toward the sideline. In the 5-step game, he can do a lot of damage running crossing routes or deep ins. He can be a huge factor in the WR screen game. Can play wildcat QB.

holt_bruce81
11-03-2011, 07:11 PM
I would still have Alshon Jeffery #1 and Justin Blackmon #2. I think Fuller is a 3rd day selection, don't see what people see in him.

keylime_5
11-03-2011, 09:51 PM
Ryan Broyles seems like a cross between Derrick Mason and Steve Smith. (other one)

Agree/Disagree?

I think he's a cross between Mark Clayton and a decent WR (pick one).


a couple more things:

-I still think Alshon Jeffery has more upside than any other WR in this class including Michael Floyd, which is saying something....though his bust factor is relatively high

-There is an unecessary lack of DeVier Posey in these rankings. People seem to forget about his talent due to his 10 game suspension, kinda like they forgot about Mike Adams until he was reinstated. If the dude can learn to catch the ball a little better he has #1 WR potential.

thegreatone
11-03-2011, 10:40 PM
I think he's a cross between Mark Clayton and a decent WR (pick one).

But Clayton wasn't nearly the route runner Broyles is coming out of college.

Big Bird
11-03-2011, 11:57 PM
I think he's a cross between Mark Clayton and a decent WR (pick one).


a couple more things:

-I still think Alshon Jeffery has more upside than any other WR in this class including Michael Floyd, which is saying something....though his bust factor is relatively high

-There is an unecessary lack of DeVier Posey in these rankings. People seem to forget about his talent due to his 10 game suspension, kinda like they forgot about Mike Adams until he was reinstated. If the dude can learn to catch the ball a little better he has #1 WR potential.
You seem to be forgetting that he only runs one route well, the go...

Matthew Jones
11-04-2011, 09:15 AM
I'd project them to be drafted in this order:

1. Justin Blackmon (top-10)
2. Alshon Jeffery
3. Michael Floyd (10-20)
4. Ryan Broyles (30-40)
5. Jeff Fuller
6. Nick Toon
7. Dwight Jones (40-50)
8. Juron Criner (60-70)

I could see Brian Quick fitting into the second round on a team like the Jets or Chargers.

Matthew Jones
11-04-2011, 09:15 AM
with the 6th overall pick in the 2012 draft. The Jaguars select Wr. Ok State. Justin Blackmon.

Not sure Jacksonville would draft him. Gene Smith is all about character and loves drafting seniors. Blackmon is an underclassman with a DUI.

murdamal86
11-04-2011, 10:30 AM
Not sure Jacksonville would draft him. Gene Smith is all about character and loves drafting seniors. Blackmon is an underclassman with a DUI.

We'd totally get Blackmon if he's there. There's no way we'd pass him up...we need a WR.....badly

keylime_5
11-04-2011, 11:38 AM
But Clayton wasn't nearly the route runner Broyles is coming out of college.

i don't know everything about Oklahoma's offense, but if it's anything like Oklahoma State's, then the receivers only run a few routes in the route tree that are actually used in the pros. Justin Blackmon has basically no route running skills and he'll be the first WR drafted. TO and Ochocinco and lots of other good WRs never were ever good route runners. It's much more important for slot guys like Broyles though.

Dallas357
11-06-2011, 01:03 PM
alshon looks like a scrub compared to blackmon at this point.

I want Blackmon high, or then sanu late 1st round. there is no in between

thegreatone
11-06-2011, 01:43 PM
We'd totally get Blackmon if he's there. There's no way we'd pass him up...we need a WR.....badly
You need a QB even badlier.

thenewfeature06
11-06-2011, 01:50 PM
I think Blackmon and Floyd are the top 2 WRs.. HOWEVER due to the crazy size to Jeffery teams could love that I think those 3 go in the first.

As far as sleepers I like Martavious Odoms/Tavarres King (UGA)

4U2NV
11-16-2011, 03:19 PM
What can people tell me about Kendall Wright from Baylor? I haven't paid attention to him at all and have only watched one Baylor game all year but that was mostly to watch RG3. I've seen Wright's name being mentioned more in different places so I want to learn more about him now.

holt_bruce81
11-16-2011, 03:51 PM
T.Y Hilton needs to be in everyone's top 5.

I think Blackmon has leaped a head of Alshon for me though.

1. Justin Blackmon
2. Alshon Jeffery
3. Michael Floyd
4. T.Y Hilton
5. Dwight Jones
6. Ryan Broyles
7. Mohamed Sanu
8. Stephen Hill

keylime_5
11-16-2011, 04:26 PM
Kendall Wright is a small, fast slot receiver who is great after the catch. I think he could be a sleeper late 1st/early 2nd round pick. I think Scott mentioned him in his most recent hot list.

Floyd is the one receiver who is looking like the best pro prospect this season. He is doing some things Blackmon isn't and probably would go first if not for off-field and injury issues in his past. Blackmon is more like a Boldin/Bryant/Crabtree type while Floyd is more like Larry Fitzgerald in his style of play.

RaiderNation
11-16-2011, 04:57 PM
What can people tell me about Kendall Wright from Baylor? I haven't paid attention to him at all and have only watched one Baylor game all year but that was mostly to watch RG3. I've seen Wright's name being mentioned more in different places so I want to learn more about him now.

I'm really starting to buy into him as a 2nd round WR, and could end up being a Mike Wallace type WR in the NFL. He has outstanding speed and will be able to be a down the field threat and also a good underneath option on short routes.

rawdawg
11-16-2011, 06:27 PM
I think this draft is going to go a lot like last year's draft.

I think you see 2 top 15 WRs (Blackmon then Floyd). But not as high as last year with Green and Julio Jones.

Then I think Jeffrey goes in the early to mid 20s just like Jon Baldwin did. I think teams will shy from him, despite his talent because he hasn't put it altogether this year. But when you get to teams late in the first or teams trading up from the early 2nd, I think they'll see that size on the board and make a move.

Then I think Kendall Wright sneaks in there early 2nd, the way Titus Young did last year. Then mid-to-late 2nd you'll have guys like Sanu, Dwight Jones, and maybe Nick Toon or Juron Criner sneaking in there before the start of the 3rd.

4U2NV
11-17-2011, 12:09 AM
I'm really starting to buy into him as a 2nd round WR, and could end up being a Mike Wallace type WR in the NFL. He has outstanding speed and will be able to be a down the field threat and also a good underneath option on short routes.

I just watched a few video packages on him and I like the Mike Wallace comparison a lot because I saw a lot of plays where he would line up outside and remain stionary while Griffin threw a quick pass over to him just to get the ball in his hands and let him do the rest with his speeed. Wallace does that all the time. I came away very impressed with what I saw. I don't know if he's quite as tall as Wallace but he's definitely got the wheels and looks to have nice hands too. Thanks for the rundown. I'll make sure to try and try and find a Baylor game on the tube again before the end of the season.

Jack203
11-17-2011, 07:59 AM
What makes Kendall Wright better then Jarius Wright, Joe Adams, TY Hilton, Patrick Edwards..just to name a few....

Leon Sandcastle
11-17-2011, 10:55 AM
Oh God please let Michael Floyd drop to the Bills.

RaiderNation
11-17-2011, 03:53 PM
What makes Kendall Wright better then Jarius Wright, Joe Adams, TY Hilton, Patrick Edwards..just to name a few....

While all those prospect are really fast, Wright just looks smooth at WR and is a true playmaker when the ball is in his hands. Wright is a WR with elite speed, not an athlete with great speed playing WR. Also Kendall's Wright's production is by far better than all those prospects.

bearsfan_51
11-17-2011, 04:05 PM
Oh God please let Michael Floyd drop to the Bills.
I think it's clear by now that God hates the Bills.

Jack203
11-17-2011, 05:24 PM
While all those prospect are really fast, Wright just looks smooth at WR and is a true playmaker when the ball is in his hands. Wright is a WR with elite speed, not an athlete with great speed playing WR. Also Kendall's Wright's production is by far better than all those prospects.


Actually Edwards has better production. Kendall Wright had a tougher schedule, I'll give him that.

RaiderNation
11-17-2011, 06:09 PM
Actually Edwards has better production. Kendall Wright had a tougher schedule, I'll give him that.

Lol Houston's stats are always boosted, name one offensive player to come out of Houston in the last 10 years that made an impact in the NFL.

princefielder28
11-17-2011, 06:13 PM
Lol Houston's stats are always boosted, name one offensive player to come out of Houston in the last 10 years that made an impact in the NFL.

Donnie Avery!!!!!!

ChiFan24
11-17-2011, 07:12 PM
I think Joe Adams is the closest thing to Mike Wallace in this draft, from what I've seen of him.

I also love B.J. Cunningham.

rawdawg
11-17-2011, 08:07 PM
What makes Kendall Wright better then Jarius Wright, Joe Adams, TY Hilton, Patrick Edwards..just to name a few....

I think Kendall Wright can legitimately play the outside in the NFL. I don't think he's Mike Wallace. Wallace is a good inch to inch and a half taller and much better put together physically. But I think Wright can play on the inside or out, just not to the extent of Wallace.

Jarius Wright, Hilton, and Edwards are going to be much better slot options than outside. I do think Wright can be dynamic and a big time playmaker in the slot though. Hilton doesn't do much for me, to be honest. And I don't even know if Edwards is draftable. He's really small. Looks to be very fast, but he's never going to play outside the numbers in the NFL and seems more like a niche guy. Joe Adams is a player I like a lot though. Not sure why, but I like him better than his teammate, Wright, despite the numbers. I do think he can be an outside WR also. But he doesn't have Kendall's number which is why Wright is separated from him also. I do think he has more "juke" than the other 3 in this group and can better beat press coverage. He also is a monster in the return game, so he has that going for him too.

Jack203
11-17-2011, 09:30 PM
Good argument Rawdawg...

Jack203
11-17-2011, 09:50 PM
Any thoughts on Lance Lewis?

RWills
11-18-2011, 09:30 AM
Top guys

1. *Justin Blackmon - Top 10
2. Michael Floyd - Top 15
3. *Ashlon Jeffery - 1st rounder
4. *Mohamed Sanu - late 1st/early 2nd
5. Kendall Wright - late 1st/early 2nd
6. *Ruben Randle - 2nd rounder

After these guys then it gets a little tricky and can see these next few go in round 2 or round 4.

1(7). Jeff Fuller - Has been playign a lot better, but has looked bad at times with drops
2(8). Ryan Broyles - What will the knee injury do to his stock? Was a 2nd rounder before injury
3(9). Nick Toon - Will the combine expose is lack of athleticism and cause him to fall. I heard scouts see him more as a 4th rounder and I am warming to that idea..nothing stands out to me.

Risers....players I can see rise to the second round and/or surpass the previous 3 mentioned.

1(10). Dwight Jones - Really came on late last year, is not getting the credit he deserves.
2(11). Marvin McNutt - Who hasn't fallen in love with his play. who cares if he runs a 4.6-4.7, the guy knows how to use use his frame and over leap players, reminds me of a Boldin/Britt combo.
3(12). Jarius Wright - His speed will seperate himself with the others

Over-Hyped ????

1(13). Justin Criner - I just don't see the ability to seperate from defenders at the next level, reminds me of James Hardy
2(14). AJ Jenkins - Came on the scene like gang busters this year. immature, and horrible route running will hold him back.
3(17). Jermaine Kearse - reminds me of Jason Hill, look how he has turned out.
4(22). Greg Childs - Like Criner I don't think he has the ability to seperate himself from defenders in the NFL.

Sleepers

1(15). Brian Quick - The Senior Bowl is the most important game for him
2(16). TY Hilton - He has the speed and hands but man is he small, reminds me of Jarrett Dillard, can he take the pounding?
3(19). Joe Adams - Reminds me of Harvin but still raw, can be used slot, split or backfield.
4(21). Lance Lewis - Like Jerome Simpson he will be raw and need a year or two to develop routes.

Middle of the road guys

1(18). BJ Cunningham - I know I will be railed for this but he is a very good college guy who can have a Jason Avant style career in the league, doesnt do anything great but doesnt do anything bad.
2(20). Marquise Maze - like Hilton and Adams Has the speed and quickness to be a sneaky good in the slot
3(23). TJ Graham - Almost put him in the sleeper section, the pre-draft will help figure him out.
4(24). DeVier Posey - Never understood the hype on him. reminds me of Hartline but a little bigger.
5(25). Chris Owusu - Concussions has really sapped his value this year.

Jack203
11-18-2011, 09:41 AM
Another strong analysis. I like it. But no love for MAC guys White or Edwards huh. What about Greg Jennings? Just saying, anything's possible.

Jack203
11-18-2011, 01:57 PM
And Chris Givens over at Wake Forest....Not very exciting?

iowatreat54
11-18-2011, 04:02 PM
The thing about Toon is that at least for the last 2 years he has been the guy who's on the verge of breaking out, but never does. He either has had injuries or just not been productive, whether it be because of his own faults or that of the scheme he has played in.

He has never really consistently produced while always being hyped as a big time WR. I'm not sure what to make of him.

BrettFavresMember
11-20-2011, 09:07 AM
Marvin McNutt is a first round player, bottom line.

9 catches, 151 yards, 2 tds yesterday.

The 53 yard run-and-catch speaks for itself.

On the year now for Marvin:

74 catches, 1210 yards, 12 tds

ElectricEye
12-15-2011, 12:21 PM
Bit of a big bump, but I did a bit of work on Tommy Streeter yesterday that I feel like sharing with a broader audience. I liked what I saw overall. The biggest concern with him is that the sample size is so limited. Miami wasn't moving the ball up and down the field in the passing game this year, so I'm not terribly concerned with the 800 yards...but the fact that there's really only one year of stuff to watch is something that I'm not entirely comfortable with. But yeah, quick dirty scouting report;


Positives
-Very good long speed. Overall height to athleticism ratio is good.
-Tall, rangy, and long armed. Able to generate separation down the field between that and his speed.
-Uses his body well, both length wise and shielding the all from defenders.
-Able to make catches with guys close to him, showing good focus. Wins jump ball battles regularly.
-Lines up both in the slot and on the outside, seemingly unafraid to work the middle of the field and take a hit.
-Quicker feet than you would expect for a tall guy. Runs some double moves on occasion. Subtle type stuff as opposed to quick cuts, but it works and helps him get separation.

Negatives
-Improving rapidly, but very raw overall. Still maturing physically and technically.
-Doesn't seem to have "strong" hands. You would like to see him attack the ball when it's in the air better.
-Drops passes on occasion.
-Experience is a big concern. He was only able to get regular playing time this year.
-I haven't seen him pressed often, but a lot of his better plays come with a clean release on off coverage.
-Build up speed. Doesn't accelerate quickly and sudden probably won't be an adjective you ever use to describe him.

Grade: 3rd of 4th round type player right now. Testing will be huge for him. Lot's of ability and good physical tools, but the lack of film on him really holds him back. Probably should have stayed for his Senior season, but he has a good chance at being a mid-round pick and could well go higher if shows well at the combine.

Anyone have any thoughts on the guy? I'm cautious, but I really like what I've seen out of the guy so far.

DraftSavant
12-15-2011, 01:34 PM
Nice writeup. I've seen very little of the Canes this year (other than Lamar Miller).

TACKLE
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
With his skillset, I think he compares favorably to Chris Henry.

keylime_5
12-15-2011, 05:12 PM
If DeVier Posey and Terrelle Pryor played a full season at Ohio State this year instead of what transpired, Posey would be at worst a 2nd round pick. He was beastly in the two games he did play. I don't know where he will be drafted (3rd round seems most likely at this point so far) but he will be a starting NFL WR and a pretty good one. He has #1 WR potential if he can cut out the drops.

Iamcanadian
12-15-2011, 06:04 PM
Justin Blackmon - Top 15
Michael Floyd - Top 15
Kendall Wright - Top 32

Alshon Jeffery 2nd round
Nick Toon 2nd round
Dwight Jones 2nd round
Tommy Streeter 2nd round

Mohamed Sanu - 3rd round
Jarius Wright - 3rd round
Ryan Broyles - 3rd round
DeVier Posey - 3rd round right now but the post season could effect him dramatically
Jarius Wright - 3rd round

AJ Jenkins - 4th round
Jeff Fuller - 4th round

It's a pretty decent crop with some real depth.

A Perfect Score
12-15-2011, 06:06 PM
Assuming he does what he needs to and gets the hell in shape for the postseason stuff, I still can't see Alshon falling to the second round. If Mike Williams can go Top 10, I don't see why someone between 24-32 with a big need at WR wouldn't take a shot on Jeffery (Again, this is assuming he doesn't Andre Smith his workouts all offseason).

Iamcanadian
12-15-2011, 06:22 PM
Assuming he does what he needs to and gets the hell in shape for the postseason stuff, I still can't see Alshon falling to the second round. If Mike Williams can go Top 10, I don't see why someone between 24-32 with a big need at WR wouldn't take a shot on Jeffery (Again, this is assuming he doesn't Andre Smith his workouts all offseason).

Jeffery's has more problems than just weight and speed. He is a poor route runner as well and that is what allows big WR's to be effective. Pro scouts and GM's aren't fools, they hate prospects who won't work hard at their chosen profession, that is something that drives players out of the NFL pretty quickly.
He's put zero time into staying in shape and he has put nothing into learning how to run a route. Do you really think a NFL team will draft him in round 1 or will they wait till round 2, before taking the risk.

rawdawg
12-15-2011, 06:38 PM
If DeVier Posey and Terrelle Pryor played a full season at Ohio State this year instead of what transpired, Posey would be at worst a 2nd round pick. He was beastly in the two games he did play. I don't know where he will be drafted (3rd round seems most likely at this point so far) but he will be a starting NFL WR and a pretty good one. He has #1 WR potential if he can cut out the drops.

I like Posey a lot. I think the knock on him is that he doesn't have 1 thing that really stands out. He has good enough size, speed, route running ability, hands, and ability to go up and get the ball in traffic...but he doesn't excel in any of those areas. He has a nice long stride and will be able to eat up a CBs cushion quicker than anticipated. I like his ability to hide in a zone defense and find an open spot. Don't think he's a guy that's going to win a lot of matchups vs. press coverage in the 3-step drop game, but I love his body control. He's not physical off the line, but I think he does a good job contorting himself to get away from defenders. He also has good ability to adjust to the ball in the air, and I think he has the subtle pushoff move down also. I like his versatility to play inside or out. Love him vs. off man or zone. Not sure if he will ever put it altogether and be a legit #1 like Calvin/Andre Johnson or Fitzgerald, but I think he can be a poor man's top WR like Stevie Johnson.

rawdawg
12-15-2011, 06:40 PM
Jeffery's has more problems than just weight and speed. He is a poor route runner as well and that is what allows big WR's to be effective. Pro scouts and GM's aren't fools, they hate prospects who won't work hard at their chosen profession, that is something that drives players out of the NFL pretty quickly.
He's put zero time into staying in shape and he has put nothing into learning how to run a route. Do you really think a NFL team will draft him in round 1 or will they wait till round 2, before taking the risk.

It's not as big of a risk for a team in the 24-32 range as was suggested. Those are obviously playoff teams with fewer holes than most teams, thus aren't as destroyed when their top pick doesn't pan out.

ElectricEye
12-15-2011, 07:20 PM
With his skillset, I think he compares favorably to Chris Henry.

Yeah, he's actually pretty eerily similar in terms of ability. I think he's more of a roleplayer early in his career, but he could well develop into a a #1 or #2 target if he continues to get better.

keylime_5
12-15-2011, 07:30 PM
I like Posey a lot. I think the knock on him is that he doesn't have 1 thing that really stands out. He has good enough size, speed, route running ability, hands, and ability to go up and get the ball in traffic...but he doesn't excel in any of those areas. He has a nice long stride and will be able to eat up a CBs cushion quicker than anticipated. I like his ability to hide in a zone defense and find an open spot. Don't think he's a guy that's going to win a lot of matchups vs. press coverage in the 3-step drop game, but I love his body control. He's not physical off the line, but I think he does a good job contorting himself to get away from defenders. He also has good ability to adjust to the ball in the air, and I think he has the subtle pushoff move down also. I like his versatility to play inside or out. Love him vs. off man or zone. Not sure if he will ever put it altogether and be a legit #1 like Calvin/Andre Johnson or Fitzgerald, but I think he can be a poor man's top WR like Stevie Johnson.

I certainly wouldn't compare him to C.Johnson, A.Johnson, or Fitzgerald. Those are elite guys who were unstoppable in college and unstoppable in the pros and top 5 picks. I think Posey is going to be more like a Hakeem Nicks, Jordy Nelson, Brandon Lloyd type. Very good, pro bowl caliber potential if he can correct his hands. At worst he'll be a solid starting #2 receiver.

ElectricEye
12-15-2011, 07:35 PM
I seriously need to do more homework on Posey. In spite of hearing "Oh he's overhyped" every time his name comes up, but all I've ever seen the guy do is make plays. Watched a lot of McNutt today, Posey might be next on my list.

Iamcanadian
12-15-2011, 08:54 PM
It's not as big of a risk for a team in the 24-32 range as was suggested. Those are obviously playoff teams with fewer holes than most teams, thus aren't as destroyed when their top pick doesn't pan out.

Teams in the 24-32 range, got there by drafting winners and rarely take on projects with real character issues. They leave these types for the weaker drafting teams which allows them a shot at a better prospect.
Injuries are a risk teams in the 24-32 range will take, hoping for a real payoff because otherwise they never get a shot at the best prospects.
IMO, Jeffery's will go early round 2, to one of those poorly run organizations, to the glee of those drafting further down the food chain.

ElectricEye
12-16-2011, 01:44 PM
Looked at Rueben Randle's games this year today. Did a bit of a write up. Let me know if these get annoying.

Positives
-Good size at 6'3 and close to 210, well built.
-Overall athleticism is very suited to being a capable NFL receiver, with a nice balance of acceleration and speed to compliment his size
-Generates vertical separation, hitting his top gear down the field. Able to make catches 20+ yards past the line of scrimmage consistently.
-Tracks the ball very well in the air, high pointing it when he needs to.
-A bit of a long strider, but he's quick and sudden in and out of his breaks and moves surprisingly well for a big guy.
-Good open field guy. Looks to make yards after the catch and can be tough to tackle in the open field, demonstrating good elusiveness.
-A weapon in the quick pass game, gets up field quickly after making catches.
-Tons of experience against top level competition, managing to be productive in spite of some truly horrific quarterback play.


Negatives
-Doesn't always play up to his size. You would like to see him be more physical overall.
-Seemingly bothered by press coverage.
-Must continue to get stronger in order to beat press coverage.
-Despite above average acceleration and quickness for his size, he's still more in the deep speed/long strider category.
-Played in a very vanilla, conservative offensive scheme that didn't ask him to run an NFL route tree. Has the ability to be a good route runner, but hasn't been asked to do it.
-Doesn't make a lot of contested catches and doesn't seem to use his body all that well.
-Disappears for large stretches. Some of that has to do with quarterback play, but if you watch him closely you can see it's a bit of an effort problem as well. Runs some lazy routes at times.
-Doesn't seem to possess strong hands. Makes easy catches look easy, harder catches look hard.

Very well rounded overall athlete with the tools to beat you in a lot of different ways. It's sort of tough to evaluate Randle due to the type of quarterback play he has to deal with and offensive system he's in. Out of all the top ranked receivers, sans maybe Toon, he's been asked to do the least in spite of being pretty productive. It's tough to call him raw, since he doesn't really seem to make many mistakes or have a whole ton of technical limitations, but he's certainly still a developing player. The biggest question for me is if he'll continue to be soft and disappear....but all his flaws are coachable. Might not come out this year, but he's a viable candidate to be picked in the late first to early second if he does, possibly even higher with a good combine. Defiantly one of the more under appreciated draft eligible receivers with one of the higher ceilings for his position in the class.

jimmylishis
12-18-2011, 01:51 AM
Top guys
1(13). Justin Criner - I just don't see the ability to seperate from defenders at the next level, reminds me of James Hardy


Have you ever watched Juron Criner? James Hardy had bricks for feet. Criner has very good speed. Please at least watch a highlight reel on youtube before you make a writeup like this

rawdawg
12-18-2011, 07:24 AM
Have you ever watched Juron Criner? James Hardy had bricks for feet. Criner has very good speed. Please at least watch a highlight reel on youtube before you make a writeup like this

Hardy ran a 4.45 at the combine. I'm assuming "bricks for feet" means he's slow, but I don't see anyway that 4.45 is slow or that Criner will be any faster. It's not a bad comparison, don't get caught up in the fact that Hardy hasn't panned out.

shylo3716
12-18-2011, 07:38 AM
Out of any position in this draft class, I most definitely think the WRs will have the see-saw effect from 3-5 range, it will be a toss up.

TheSchmidt
12-18-2011, 11:13 PM
Thoughts on Rishard Mathews?

HorusKing
12-20-2011, 09:47 AM
1. Justin Blackmon - OSU

2. Kendall Wright - Baylor

3. Michael Floyd - Notre Dame

4. Alshon Jeffery - South Carolina - If he gets into shape this guys reminds me Mike Williams which is not good.

5. Tommy Streeter - Miami - Physical Freak will test through the roof but only had 1 good statistical season.

6. Nick Toon - Wisconsin

7. Jeff Fuller - Texas A&M

8. Ryan Broyles - OU

9. Joe Adams - Arkansas

10. Travis Benjamin - Miami - Game Changer

the natural
12-20-2011, 02:49 PM
I like Jeffery because of the hands and reach. You can't put too much emphasis on those two things as far as WR are concerned. He seems pretty upbeat as well, I think he would be a great teammate. I like Streeter and Randle because of their upside. Great athletes who are comparitively young. I think Randle will still be 20 on draft day. To me it's a very deep class at the position, probably ten deep in players with second round value.

JBCX
12-20-2011, 03:18 PM
Any list that doesn't have Mohammed Sanu as a top-5 WR in this class is bogus.

ElectricEye
12-20-2011, 03:20 PM
Any list that doesn't have Mohammed Sanu as a top-5 WR in this class is bogus.

Meh. I like Sanu, but when you actually stack him up against the competition, he doesn't quite stack up.

the natural
12-20-2011, 03:42 PM
Any list that doesn't have Mohammed Sanu as a top-5 WR in this class is bogus.

I thought Sanu was staying in school.

ATLDirtyBirds
12-20-2011, 03:56 PM
Yeah, he's actually pretty eerily similar in terms of ability. I think he's more of a roleplayer early in his career, but he could well develop into a a #1 or #2 target if he continues to get better.

Couldn't agree more. Good report on him too, nailed it.

keylime_5
12-20-2011, 03:58 PM
Meh. I like Sanu, but when you actually stack him up against the competition, he doesn't quite stack up.

He is what Jeff Fuller was supposed to be. Fuller fell flat this year and Sanu had a huge year.

1-Blackmon
2-Floyd
3-Wright
4-Sanu
5-????

I think Sanu is clearly a top 5 guy. I don't know who is 5th behind those 4, it's very debatable. I know Jeffery is dropping like a rock and the other guys have questionable upside compared to the others. Personally I would put either Jeffery, Posey, or Nick Toon 5th.

keylime_5
12-20-2011, 03:59 PM
I like Jeffery because of the hands and reach. You can't put too much emphasis on those two things as far as WR are concerned. He seems pretty upbeat as well, I think he would be a great teammate. I like Streeter and Randle because of their upside. Great athletes who are comparitively young. I think Randle will still be 20 on draft day. To me it's a very deep class at the position, probably ten deep in players with second round value.

strangely enough Alshon reminds me more of Antonio Gates than any WR on his body control and how he runs and can go up and get the ball. Maybe a little bit like Keyshawn Johnson or Mike Williams (the fat lazy one). Definitely worth a flyer in round 2, but his round one value is long gone if you ask me.

the natural
12-20-2011, 04:14 PM
strangely enough Alshon reminds me more of Antonio Gates than any WR on his body control and how he runs and can go up and get the ball. Maybe a little bit like Keyshawn Johnson or Mike Williams (the fat lazy one). Definitely worth a flyer in round 2, but his round one value is long gone if you ask me.

Yeah, Jeffery is probably about 20 pounds short of being Antonio Gates. Maybe not that much at this point.

TACKLE
12-20-2011, 04:28 PM
Ranking WR's can feel like a crapshoot sometimes because their production is so dependent on their situation, more so than any other position imo. Obviously I'll still make an attempt to rank them, but I think I'm more comfortable just tiering them this year. Here's some rough 'rankings' for you guys. The players are very loosely ordered within the tiers

Tier 1 - 1st round talents
Justin Blackmon
Alshon Jeffery
Michael Floyd
Kendall Wright
Rueben Randle

I think all of these guys are legitimate first round talents. Any one of them could end up being the best WR to come out of this class.

Tier 2 - Early/Mid 2nd round talents
BJ Cunningham
Dwight Jones
Joe Adams
TY Hilton
Mohammed Sanu

Cunningham, Jones and Sanu can be solid #2's with enough ability to develop into #1's. Hilton and Adams can be big time playmakers as a #2 or slot receivers.

Tier 3 - Mid 2nd-Early 4th, really depends on what type on system/style prefernce
Juron Criner
Marvin McNutt
DeVier Posey
Tommy Streeter
Brian Quick
Ryan Broyles
Nick Toon
Jarius Wright
Keshawn Martin

Pretty distinct types of recievers who all could be solid #2 or #3's for a lot of teams though I don't know if any of these guys have #1 ability. Big bodied possession guys, (Criner, McNutt, Quick, Streeter) smaller explosive threats (Broyles, Martin, Wright) and the guys in the middle who do everything well but nothing great (Posey, Jenkins, Toon).



....damn this WR class is deep.

ATLDirtyBirds
12-20-2011, 04:43 PM
Is that your order TACKLE? Curious as to Alshon>Floyd.

DraftSavant
12-20-2011, 04:44 PM
Ranking WR's can feel like a crapshoot sometimes because their production is so dependent on their situation, more so than any other position imo.

Yessir, this is 100% correct.

TACKLE
12-20-2011, 04:47 PM
Is that your order TACKLE? Curious as to Alshon>Floyd.

No it's not. My inability to separate the top 5 is what lead me to do the tiers in the first place. With that being said, I do think Alshon is being underrated at the moment and is probably the most 'gifted' WR in this class.

ElectricEye
12-20-2011, 04:52 PM
Good stuff. I'm doing a little bit of work on Sanu and Jones tomorrow as soon as I find enough games. I'm anxious to get a look at Posey as well, he's really flashed big in the times I've seen him play the past few years.

This class doesn't quite have the super star talents that the last one did with AJ Green and Julio Jones, but there's a ton of depth and guys who could be really nice players.

Giantsfan1080
12-20-2011, 05:00 PM
The Rutgers offensive system severely hurt Sanu's YPC which is the biggest knock on him right now. We rarely sent him deep in a game.

princefielder28
12-20-2011, 05:02 PM
for me right now it goes

1. Justin Blackmon : OKLAHOMA STATE*
2. Dwight Jones : NORTH CAROLINA
3. Michael Floyd : NOTRE DAME
4. TY Hilton : FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
5. Alshon Jeffery : SOUTH CAROLINA*
6. Kendall Wright : BAYLOR

I don't have Sanu ranked bc not sure if he's gonna be in the draft or not and after the top 6 there is so much to sort through because there's so many quality prospects at the position

rawdawg
12-20-2011, 05:04 PM
The Rutgers offensive system severely hurt Sanu's YPC which is the biggest knock on him right now. We rarely sent him deep in a game.

Nobody that has seen Sanu in his 3 years at Rutgers should be concerned with his YAC. He's a RB with WR ability. The system did negate some of his ability after the catch, but anyone that saw him returning punts and as a wildcat QB and RB the previous 2 years knows he's a beast to tackle.

ElectricEye
12-20-2011, 05:07 PM
The Rutgers offensive system severely hurt Sanu's YPC which is the biggest knock on him right now. We rarely sent him deep in a game.

If you can't see any downfield game, it's hard to project it. Sanu looks more like an underneath kind of receiver right now, which either helps or hurts his value depending on the system you're running and what you're looking for in a receiver. I like his build, athletic ability, and versatility...but he's more of an athlete playing wide receiver right now than an athletic wide receiver. I think he's actually a pretty safe pick given that he'll be able to do what he does now in the NFL fairly effectively, but I'm not sure I would spend a first or second round pick on that sort of guy. Word is that he's coming back right now anyway, which could be very good for both his stock and development.

Giantsfan1080
12-20-2011, 05:11 PM
If you can't see any downfield game, it's hard to project it. Sanu looks more like an underneath kind of receiver right now, which either helps or hurts his value depending on the system you're running and what you're looking for in a receiver. I like his build, athletic ability, and versatility...but he's more of an athlete playing wide receiver right now than an athletic wide receiver. I think he's actually a pretty safe pick given that he'll be able to do what he does now in the NFL fairly effectively, but I'm not sure I would spend a first or second round pick on that sort of guy. Word is that he's coming back right now anyway, which could be very good for both his stock and development.

His freshman year we used him more as a deep threat and then this year we almost never had him run a route more than 10-15 yards. He has great hands and like you said is still learning the position but his upside is that of a 1st round pick. He'll be able to play in any offensive system in the NFL. He's going to test much faster at the Combine than everyone believes also. Yes rumor is right now he's leaning towards staying but he is older than your average JR so I'm not convinced just yet. Teams are going to fall in love with him in interviews as well.

ElectricEye
12-20-2011, 05:23 PM
His freshman year we used him more as a deep threat and then this year we almost never had him run a route more than 10-15 yards. He has great hands and like you said is still learning the position but his upside is that of a 1st round pick. He'll be able to play in any offensive system in the NFL. He's going to test much faster at the Combine than everyone believes also. Yes rumor is right now he's leaning towards staying but he is older than your average JR so I'm not convinced just yet. Teams are going to fall in love with him in interviews as well.

It's still hard for me to buy that a guy who generated less than 10(I did the work on it earlier, think it was 7) receptions all year of 20+ yards going in that range. There's some scheme things, you're absolutely right...but still. A guy like Sanu should be able to generate more big plays, both down the field and after the catch.

keylime_5
12-20-2011, 05:24 PM
Nothing wrong with not being a real downfield receiver. How many possession receivers in the history of the league would be worth top 10 picks, let alone first round picks? The list would be really really long. Sanu is more like one of those guys, not a true deep threat but a guy who creates big plays after the catch instead of downfield.

Giantsfan1080
12-20-2011, 05:39 PM
It's still hard for me to buy that a guy who generated less than 10(I did the work on it earlier, think it was 7) receptions all year of 20+ yards going in that range. There's some scheme things, you're absolutely right...but still. A guy like Sanu should be able to generate more big plays, both down the field and after the catch.

I understand exactly where you're coming from but just from watching him for 3 years I know he'll be able to more of a deep threat if it's asked of him. All we threw to him this year was short slants, curls, and quick out patterns. I understand it's hard to see because it's definitely not on tape but I feel confident from watching he'll be an above average WR at the next level. I'm usualyy pretty spot on with the Rutgers players since I watch them so often.

DraftSavant
12-20-2011, 05:55 PM
It's still hard for me to buy that a guy who generated less than 10(I did the work on it earlier, think it was 7) receptions all year of 20+ yards going in that range. There's some scheme things, you're absolutely right...but still. A guy like Sanu should be able to generate more big plays, both down the field and after the catch.

If he's as big as listed, he could develop enough into a contested catch WR down the field - at least enough to keep defenders honest. But yeah, he'll likely never be a guy who you'll design a gameplan around sending him deep.

ElectricEye
12-20-2011, 05:59 PM
If he's as big as listed, he could develop enough into a contested catch WR down the field - at least enough to keep defenders honest. But yeah, he'll likely never be a guy who you'll design a gameplan around sending him deep.

I've seen him do a bit of that. As GF mentioned already, Rutgers doesn't throw the ball down the field a whole ton, so it's tough to evaluate and project it...but I have seen him use his body to block out guys and out muscle them for the ball. There's nothing wrong with being a catch and run guy, but the concerning thing with Sanu is that he's not able to bust those into big gains with regularity at the college level. He SHOULD be able to do that with his strength and quickness.

Brown Leader
12-20-2011, 06:51 PM
Top ten with comparisons...

1. Michael Floyd: A lot of T.O. in his game.
2. Justin Blackmon: Big boy Greg Jennings.
3. Kendall Wright: Smitty jr.
4. Dwight Jones: Amani Toomer (remember him?)
5. Mohamed Sanu: Marques Colston
6. Alshon Jeffrey: Jon Baldwin
7. Jarius Wright: Deon Branch
8. DeVier Posey: James Jones
9. Tommy Streeter: Chris Henry
10. Marvin McNutt: Malcolm Floyd

Next dozen or so in no particular order yet.

Marvin Jones
Ken Dorsey
Gerrel Robinson
Jarrett Boykin
Brian Quick
Nick Toon
A.J. Jenkins
Ty Hilton
Juron Criner
B.J. Cunningham
Rueben Randle
Jordan White
Lance Lewis

Spaceboy1
12-21-2011, 10:11 AM
Top ten with comparisons...

1. Michael Floyd: A lot of T.O. in his game.
2. Justin Blackmon: Big boy Greg Jennings.
3. Kendall Wright: Smitty jr.
4. Dwight Jones: Amani Toomer (remember him?)
5. Mohamed Sanu: Marques Colston
6. Alshon Jeffrey: Jon Baldwin
7. Jarius Wright: Deon Branch
8. DeVier Posey: James Jones
9. Tommy Streeter: Chris Henry
10. Marvin McNutt: Malcolm Floyd

Next dozen or so in no particular order yet.

Marvin Jones
Ken Dorsey
Gerrel Robinson
Jarrett Boykin
Brian Quick
Nick Toon
A.J. Jenkins
Ty Hilton
Juron Criner
B.J. Cunningham
Rueben Randle
Jordan White
Lance Lewis

Where is Pat Edwards?

superman8456
12-21-2011, 09:28 PM
Just a random question. Where is Ryan Broyles draft stock at?

I would be shocked if he went undrafted.

Smash28Dash34
12-21-2011, 09:39 PM
Can anybody give me the status of WR Kashif Moore of UCONN. This guy has some crazy film, but I don't see him on any WR rankings.

ElectricEye
12-21-2011, 09:48 PM
Just a random question. Where is Ryan Broyles draft stock at?

I would be shocked if he went undrafted.

If the draft were to occur today, I'm willing to bet the 3rd round. I think he'll be pushed down a little bit as other guys rise up a bit though. Should be a steal for someone looking to round out an offense with a slot type guy though...and it's not out of the question for some team to be in love with the production and take him a bit higher.

JohnCandy
12-23-2011, 12:23 PM
What do you think of the rankings for potential 1st round WRs.

1. Justin Blackmon [Hakeem Nicks] Top 10

Probably will go top 5 and has incredible hands and polish, but not a Calvin Johnson, A.J Green type prospects.

2. Michael Floyd [Larry Fitzgerald] Top 15

Huge body and good hands a reliable producer. If Floyd can put his DUIs behind him he could go top 10.

3. Kendall Wright [Steve Smith, Panthers] Top 20

Does not have dominant size, but has dominant speed and can be a consistent deep threat.

4. Alshon Jeffery [Plaxico Burress] Top 25

I have questions about his conditioning and short area speed, but he is hug and catches the ball well.

JaxJag_1
12-24-2011, 07:58 PM
Kendall Wright is the best WR in this draft.

A Perfect Score
12-24-2011, 10:02 PM
Kendall Wright is the best WR in this draft.

Well this just isn't true. I like him as much as the next guy, but I still have him ranked solidly behind Blackmon, Floyd and I'm assuming Alshon once the latter shows he isn't a fatass in the offseason.

Dallas357
08-24-2012, 01:14 AM
with the 6th overall pick in the 2012 draft. The Jaguars select Wr. Ok State. Justin Blackmon.

Meh. One pick off. How has Floyd looked opposite Larry thus far