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D-Unit
03-26-2007, 02:23 PM
Same as the CB thread.

List who's your favorite and who you think Dallas would take at 22. You must also post a highlight clip of your favorite WR.

I'll start:
Favorite: Dwayne Jarrett
Prediction: Dwyane Jarrett
Highlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy_f8tB5DwA
Comment: This guy should be a top 10 pick. Not much separates him from Calvin.

mtmock
03-26-2007, 02:40 PM
Favorite:Dwayne Jarrett
Prediction:Dwayne Jarrett
Highlight:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUU_A9ZTmyk
Comment:Dwayne Jarrett has great hands, he uses his big frame as an advantage, might not have a great timed 40 but niether did keyshawn johnson, or emmitt smith, or even vince young...bottom line is this guy is a football player and reminds me of a ketshawn johnson.

TNewFan41
03-26-2007, 03:42 PM
How is Jerrett your favorite over Calvin Johnson?!?!?!

FinChase
03-26-2007, 03:46 PM
How is Jerrett your favorite over Calvin Johnson?!?!?!

I think he means his favorite receiver that we have a snowball's chance in hell of drafting.

dc4life
03-26-2007, 03:52 PM
Favorite: Ted Ginn Jr.
Prediction: I don't think they'll take a WR.
Highlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mar1q4af4Ag
Comment: This guy will be a mid first round pick. Having Olympic speed is his greatest asset. A great return man who has potential to be a deep threat WR in the NFL. He will spread your defense out.

thule
03-26-2007, 04:20 PM
Ted Ginn Jr.

I've voiced this a million times so I'll keep it short. A guy who will compliment Hurd and Crayton. A guy who can contribute from day one. A player unlike any other player in the draft. Big risk big reward guy. A guy for TG to take under his wing.

bigmac076
03-26-2007, 05:14 PM
Dwayne Bowe, durable

TNewFan41
03-26-2007, 05:56 PM
No, D-Unit meant favorite WR in the draft, not someone who will be there. Anyway, no way it is Ted Ginn, Thule. He sucks. He shouldn't be looked at before the 3rd round IMO. Bad hands, HORRIBLE route running, and the only thing he can do is go deep, and that will be a alot harder in the NFL. Robert Meachum definitly.

Staubach12
03-26-2007, 06:27 PM
My favorite guy that may be available at our pick is Dwayne Bowe. This is a guy that can Owens can mentor. They're very similar (though Bowe isn't as... let's say vocal) and Bowe could eventually become our replacement for Owens as the #1 guy. He's nearly a complete WR. He's smart, big, fast, tough, and does all the little things.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

22,895
03-26-2007, 06:33 PM
Dwayne Jarrett BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fight On!

D-Unit
03-26-2007, 06:33 PM
No, D-Unit meant favorite WR in the draft, not someone who will be there. Anyway, no way it is Ted Ginn, Thule. He sucks. He shouldn't be looked at before the 3rd round IMO. Bad hands, HORRIBLE route running, and the only thing he can do is go deep, and that will be a alot harder in the NFL. Robert Meachum definitly.
Stop telling people what I meant. You are not me. Say that to yourself 10 times. "I am not D-Unit. I am not D-Unit..." Geez!

Your opinion is stupid if you think Ginn shouldn't be taken before Round 3. Just stupid.

And what I meant was favorite WR that we have a chance of drafting, FYI. Anyone except CJ!

Go take your ritalin for today.

Im_a_Romosexual
03-26-2007, 06:43 PM
I like Ginn's speed, but him not so much, but I would be ok if we toook him
I like Jarretts height for the red zone, but would be kinda upset if we took him
I like Bowes physicality, I would be happy if we took him
I love meachem hes tall,fast, and has good hands.
saying that I think we end up(if we take a WR) taking Bowe because I dont think meachem will last til 22

D-Unit
03-26-2007, 06:46 PM
My favorite guy that may be available at our pick is Dwayne Bowe. This is a guy that can Owens can mentor. They're very similar (though Bowe isn't as... let's say vocal) and Bowe could eventually become our replacement for Owens as the #1 guy. He's nearly a complete WR. He's smart, big, fast, tough, and does all the little things.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g
Bowe would be a solid selection.

dc4life
03-26-2007, 06:47 PM
No, D-Unit meant favorite WR in the draft, not someone who will be there. Anyway, no way it is Ted Ginn, Thule. He sucks. He shouldn't be looked at before the 3rd round IMO. Bad hands, HORRIBLE route running, and the only thing he can do is go deep, and that will be a alot harder in the NFL. Robert Meachum definitly.

Show me something, anything that Meachem has done. if Teddy Ginn is drafted, at the very least he'll be able to return kick offs or punts. If any other WR is drafted, besides Calvin, you'll see them riding the bench behind Owens, Glenn, and Crayton (unless one gets hurt).

There's knocks on every WR in the draft except Calvin. I'm just trying to buy into Meachem, hoping its not another Troy Williamson. A guy who had his stock rise quickly towards draft day. I'd like to see some clips if anyone has any, or youtube it.

TNewFan41
03-26-2007, 07:16 PM
You mean Ginn not the next Williamson, right? How can Meachem be a Williamson. Anyway, Meachem has the best hands in the draft, ginn's are below average, Meachem is easily a better route runner, and they are in the same area in speed (meachem runs a 4.39). Oh and Meachem is way bigger and not a women. And he had 11 TD's, Ginn had 6, plus Meachem had more catches and yards. So the production is better as well.

thule
03-26-2007, 07:24 PM
You mean Ginn not the next Williamson, right? How can Meachem be a Williamson. Anyway, Meachem has the best hands in the draft, ginn's are below average, Meachem is easily a better route runner, and they are in the same area in speed (meachem runs a 4.39). Oh and Meachem is way bigger and not a women. And he had 11 TD's, Ginn had 6, plus Meachem had more catches and yards. So the production is better as well.

Timmy Chang set the NCAA passing record...take your stats somewhere else. I actually do believe there is some substance in college stats...guys like DJ who have proved themselves against top competition for instance. But comments like best hands in the draft with nothing to back it up makes this post have less meaning that it didn't even have.

TNewFan41
03-26-2007, 08:00 PM
If you have seen Meachem play you know how good his hands are. And if you saw the combinE Guantlet drill, he EASILY was the most fluid and had the best hands of the draft.

TNewFan41
03-26-2007, 08:04 PM
Stop telling people what I meant. You are not me. Say that to yourself 10 times. "I am not D-Unit. I am not D-Unit..." Geez!

Your opinion is stupid if you think Ginn shouldn't be taken before Round 3. Just stupid.

And what I meant was favorite WR that we have a chance of drafting, FYI. Anyone except CJ!

Go take your ritalin for today.

I thought you meant any WR. SORRY......

Oh and I don't take Ritalin, but just to inform you, that is a very outdated drug, and no one takes that anymore. It has been outdated for a while now actually.

JJJ888
03-26-2007, 08:22 PM
Jarrett for be. His production in big games is simply amazing, as are his hands and ability in the air. I agree with D-Unit, he should be a top 10 pick.

LonghornsLegend
03-26-2007, 08:37 PM
My favorite guy that may be available at our pick is Dwayne Bowe. This is a guy that can Owens can mentor. They're very similar (though Bowe isn't as... let's say vocal) and Bowe could eventually become our replacement for Owens as the #1 guy. He's nearly a complete WR. He's smart, big, fast, tough, and does all the little things.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

i like i like, as much as id be against WR rd 1, i really like the film on him, and even more so due to us having TO, who he really could learn alot from since their play looks similiar...thats the advantage to taking a position you dont really need in the first, he gets the opportunity to learn everything before thrust into the offense because he would probably start the year as our #4, but could very well end up the #1 next year....although he did remind me alot more of reggie williams from the clips



and i wish some people would stop going so crazy over trying to prove their points on who is the best, people get this stuff wrong every year, and we should realize as deep as this WR class is, all these wr's could very well end up being solid for whatever team...looks like it could end up like the 04 draft for wr's....

fitzgerald
roy williams
reggie williams
lee evans


and throw in jenkins and clayton, that was a pretty strong year, and this looks like a year where when looking back at least 4 of the first rd wr's will be very productive

JJJ888
03-26-2007, 08:39 PM
The catch at about 2:30 of the clip D-Unit posted shows why Jarrett is my favorite...the move and then the hands. He is phenomenal.

JJJ888
03-26-2007, 08:51 PM
One concern I've noticed about Jarrett while watching highlight tapes: he never seems to run full speed when running his routes.

D-Unit
03-26-2007, 10:27 PM
One guy that I used to be high on, but am not now is Craig Davis. I've watched some more of him, and just noticed that he doesn't catch the ball with his hands. He basket catches the ball and it's pretty damn horrible.

D-Unit
03-26-2007, 10:36 PM
One concern I've noticed about Jarrett while watching highlight tapes: he never seems to run full speed when running his routes.
I think because of his height that it's deceivig to the eyes. He has a long stride. Same with Vince Young and heck.. even Pat Watkins.

thule
03-27-2007, 12:26 AM
I would welcome DJ to the team...but his raw character really scares me off...I'd rather stay with the high character guys.

D-Unit
03-27-2007, 12:55 AM
I would welcome DJ to the team...but his raw character really scares me off...I'd rather stay with the high character guys.
What do you mean by raw character?

LonghornsLegend
03-27-2007, 01:50 AM
if jarrett was there at 22, i admit he would probably be too talented to not take right there, and id be very happy about it

UTPATS
03-27-2007, 01:51 AM
No, D-Unit meant favorite WR in the draft, not someone who will be there. Anyway, no way it is Ted Ginn, Thule. He sucks. He shouldn't be looked at before the 3rd round IMO. Bad hands, HORRIBLE route running, and the only thing he can do is go deep, and that will be a alot harder in the NFL. Robert Meachum definitly.

Most of his highlights are YAC yards or returns!

UTPATS
03-27-2007, 01:59 AM
i like i like, as much as id be against WR rd 1, i really like the film on him, and even more so due to us having TO, who he really could learn alot from since their play looks similiar...thats the advantage to taking a position you dont really need in the first, he gets the opportunity to learn everything before thrust into the offense because he would probably start the year as our #4, but could very well end up the #1 next year....although he did remind me alot more of reggie williams from the clips



and i wish some people would stop going so crazy over trying to prove their points on who is the best, people get this stuff wrong every year, and we should realize as deep as this WR class is, all these wr's could very well end up being solid for whatever team...looks like it could end up like the 04 draft for wr's....

fitzgerald
roy williams
reggie williams
lee evans


and throw in jenkins and clayton, that was a pretty strong year, and this looks like a year where when looking back at least 4 of the first rd wr's will be very productive


And go back and look even further...Devery Henderson, Bernard Berrian, Jericho Cotchery, Ernest Wilford, Kerry Colbert, DJ Hackett, ole Mr. Crayton were all in this same draft!

Could this year be as good or as deep?

thule
03-27-2007, 02:04 AM
What do you mean by raw character?

I'm not exactly sure what I meant by raw character. But I really hated the way he acted in the bowl game. Came off as a straight thug...and that is the one thing I don't want on this team. This is the same reason I'm so down on lynch. Sure he is a WR and he is gonna go out and make plays and celebrate...but atleast try to do it with some dignity...It's not a huge knock for me..but it keeps me from being fully happy.

RGVBadBoy
03-27-2007, 09:10 PM
I want Calvin Johnson, but WE ALL KNOW that aint gonna happen....

Since we wont get Johnson, I think a smaller, SPEEDIER, Slot WR, like a Steve Smith 5'9 189, Santana Moss 5'8 185 or Kevin Curtis though 5'11 is only a frail 183lbs, do really well in the NFL... The SLOT is where its at, I beleive that Vincent Marshall the SUPER SPEEDSTER from Houston is worth atleast a LATE round pick and could be a steal.

The kid is a straight up football player and could seriously help in the PR/KR game on top of that he was timed at 4.26sec and a 4.28 on his ProDay (Adjusted to a 4.36 because of Turf). I think he would be a MAJOR change of pace for the Boys.

PLEAST draft Vincent Marshall in the 6th or 7th....

D-Unit
03-27-2007, 10:06 PM
I'm not exactly sure what I meant by raw character. But I really hated the way he acted in the bowl game. Came off as a straight thug...and that is the one thing I don't want on this team. This is the same reason I'm so down on lynch. Sure he is a WR and he is gonna go out and make plays and celebrate...but atleast try to do it with some dignity...It's not a huge knock for me..but it keeps me from being fully happy.
Oooh... the game he torched Leon Hall.

"The 6-foot-4, 215-pound Jarrett not only caught 11 passes for 205 yards and two touchdowns but also made Michigan cornerbacks Leon Hall and Morgan Trent look as if they belonged on the USC scout team. That's saying something, since Hall made many All-America teams and finished the regular season as a Thorpe Award finalist.

Jarrett surpassed Keary Colbert to become the Trojans' all-time leading receiver (216 catches) in what might have been his last college game." ...in 3 years I might add...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls06/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2716908

As a USC fan, I was on cloud 9 that day... and never in my dreams did I think we would've had a chance at drafting Jarrett.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0101/ncf_g_jarrett_td_412.jpg

mtmock
03-27-2007, 11:46 PM
No, D-Unit meant favorite WR in the draft, not someone who will be there. Anyway, no way it is Ted Ginn, Thule. He sucks. He shouldn't be looked at before the 3rd round IMO. Bad hands, HORRIBLE route running, and the only thing he can do is go deep, and that will be a alot harder in the NFL. Robert Meachum definitly.

yup youre right he sucks...he's slow too just like julius...are you kiddin me we'd be blessed with this guy if jarrett is gone...we could use a devin hester wo could be a santana moss type...i like meachem and jarrett, but you cannot say he sucks...people arent 1st round picks cause they suck. they are only busts from lack of heart or ability...the talent is there in every day 1 pick...it just needs to be utilized.

mtmock
03-27-2007, 11:47 PM
Oooh... the game he torched Leon Hall.

"The 6-foot-4, 215-pound Jarrett not only caught 11 passes for 205 yards and two touchdowns but also made Michigan cornerbacks Leon Hall and Morgan Trent look as if they belonged on the USC scout team. That's saying something, since Hall made many All-America teams and finished the regular season as a Thorpe Award finalist.

Jarrett surpassed Keary Colbert to become the Trojans' all-time leading receiver (216 catches) in what might have been his last college game." ...in 3 years I might add...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls06/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2716908

As a USC fan, I was on cloud 9 that day... and never in my dreams did I think we would've had a chance at drafting Jarrett.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0101/ncf_g_jarrett_td_412.jpg

im in love...JERRY TAKE jarrett, glad to see im not the only SC fan around. Fight On D-Unit!

D-Unit
03-28-2007, 12:09 AM
im in love...JERRY TAKE jarrett, glad to see im not the only SC fan around. Fight On D-Unit!
Yeah man. Brother is there right now and my mom just completed her doctorate last semester. One of my mom's teachers was one of the assistant athletic directors there and he hooked us up last year with field passes for the home opener against Arkansas. One of the greatest days of my life. I took a pic with Dwayne Jarrett after the game. :D

LonghornsLegend
03-28-2007, 12:43 AM
Yeah man. Brother is there right now and my mom just completed her doctorate last semester. One of my mom's teachers was one of the assistant athletic directors there and he hooked us up last year with field passes for the home opener against Arkansas. One of the greatest days of my life. I took a pic with Dwayne Jarrett after the game. :D

now thats pretty cool, i can see how your a USC fan then, but lets say we do take jarrett...how do you think we work out the depth chart then, he seems like an impact rookie, but it wouldnt be crazy for us to limit his playing time and let him learn and master the position, with glenn and owens healthy all year, i find it hard for any WR to break the top 2...


but im starting to lean more towards jarrett or bowe, i think if we can hit the jackpot and grab an impact WR, crayton will be very solid as a #2

TH3
03-28-2007, 02:10 AM
I am a Ted Ginn guy myself... as a playmaker not so much a WR

but at WR i like Jarrett and Bowe

HEISMANHERSCHEL
03-28-2007, 03:56 AM
I like several of the wide receivers this year. I also like our young receivers that we already have, and want to see them get a chance.

Not that I think he will be the best, but I think production wise, Ginn would give us more production as a rookie than the others. We are a solid team, but Ginn is one player that I think would have a chance to make the highlight reel as a rookie on this team.

I don't think Ginn would be a mistake at 22. However, I would rather trade up for Branch or trade down and have a chance at an OL and Griffin.

However, this is coming from someone that thought Skyler Green would be big this year!

I can't beleive he let me down....I watched him in college and thought he would be a great specialist! Now I feel like an idiot!!!!!!!!

So put me down for Ginn, reluctantly. But I would be excited to see him line up with a star on his helmet, awaiting that first punt return!

thule
03-28-2007, 02:24 PM
If we bring in a possession WR...I want Crayton shipped. I would love DJ or Bowe...I think both are top 15 talents...however we would need to lose someone to make it work. Crayton has given good depth to this team...but his years are numbered with another possession WR being brought in...ship him why we still have a chance.

D-Unit
03-28-2007, 03:05 PM
If we bring in a possession WR...I want Crayton shipped. I would love DJ or Bowe...I think both are top 15 talents...however we would need to lose someone to make it work. Crayton has given good depth to this team...but his years are numbered with another possession WR being brought in...ship him why we still have a chance.
I really thought that with Crayton having QB experience in college that Parcells was gonna use that in his trickery arsenal. I thought it was a real plus about having him. I wonder if Garrett will think of something. I don't want Crayton shipped. I don't think he'll ever be a starter, but he's a very good #3 receiver. I have more confidence in him than Hurd. As far as our future at WR appears, I think Austin > Crayton > Hurd.

What's cool is Mel Kiper said he thought Austin was going to be a 4th round pick yesterday when they were doing that Cowboys On the Clock segment on Sportscenter. It just reaffirms my confidence in his talent.

Miles Austin @WR = Tony Romo @QB

I think he can be a full time starter for us in the future.

mtmock
03-28-2007, 06:20 PM
Yeah man. Brother is there right now and my mom just completed her doctorate last semester. One of my mom's teachers was one of the assistant athletic directors there and he hooked us up last year with field passes for the home opener against Arkansas. One of the greatest days of my life. I took a pic with Dwayne Jarrett after the game. :D

:(...ahh im so jealous been an SC fan since birth and never been to a game. i wanna go to college there i am pretty close. i hope we take jarrett he is a playmaker witha great work ethic 4.67 is just a number. think it bothered jerry rice or emmitt smith they werent fast ...dont think so...with that time he should be there at 22

thule
03-28-2007, 06:30 PM
I really thought that with Crayton having QB experience in college that Parcells was gonna use that in his trickery arsenal. I thought it was a real plus about having him. I wonder if Garrett will think of something. I don't want Crayton shipped. I don't think he'll ever be a starter, but he's a very good #3 receiver. I have more confidence in him than Hurd. As far as our future at WR appears, I think Austin > Crayton > Hurd.

What's cool is Mel Kiper said he thought Austin was going to be a 4th round pick yesterday when they were doing that Cowboys On the Clock segment on Sportscenter. It just reaffirms my confidence in his talent.

Miles Austin @WR = Tony Romo @QB

I think he can be a full time starter for us in the future.

Shipping Crayton would only be necessary if we brought in a top tier guy. DJ and Bowe would both assume the #3 spot..and if they didn't...you would hate to see them sit on the bench...because neither guy really has a lot of special teams potential.

Paul
03-28-2007, 07:43 PM
Overall mine would be Audrea Allison. But in the 1st it would Jarrett.

LSUALUM99
03-29-2007, 12:48 AM
after Jarrett's pro day, I wouldn't want to spend anything higher than a 3rd round pick on him. 4.6 is too slow to be a standout WR in the NFL. Don't spend a 1st or 2nd on a guy that you don't think has the potential to be a top WR IMO.

HorusKing
03-29-2007, 01:42 AM
1st. Dewayne Bowe
2nd. Ted Ginn Jr.
3rd. Robert Meachem

Modano
03-29-2007, 02:39 AM
I think Dwayne Bowe learning from TO could be an amazing receiver. He's big and physical and he's gonna fight for every yard. But I don't think we have a shot at him, Tennessee he's gonna pick him, he can really help Vince Young.

So right now my choice is Craig Davis in the second to replace Glenn in the future.

LonghornsLegend
03-29-2007, 02:45 AM
Shipping Crayton would only be necessary if we brought in a top tier guy. DJ and Bowe would both assume the #3 spot..and if they didn't...you would hate to see them sit on the bench...because neither guy really has a lot of special teams potential.

why would you want to ship crayton just because we drafted a possesion WR....


id much rather keep crayton over hurd, glenn and owens may start 2 or so more years, then as far as youth is concerned crayton and if we drafted a rookie, it make no sense to ship him out because he has progressed, worked hard and shown he can be a very solid slot WR, i think he will play even better this year....


its not a lock DJ would assume the 3 right off the bat, and even if they did at some point, crayton would rotate in, i remember parcells saying crayton knew owens position to start him there when he broke his finger but wanted to keep him where he was, either way he has earned his right for playing time, i wouldnt mind at all if we benched our #1 pick on a WR, it surely would benefit in the future, just like carpenter may

D-Unit
03-29-2007, 03:28 AM
after Jarrett's pro day, I wouldn't want to spend anything higher than a 3rd round pick on him. 4.6 is too slow to be a standout WR in the NFL. Don't spend a 1st or 2nd on a guy that you don't think has the potential to be a top WR IMO.
No offense, but that's a pretty shallow way to guage a player.

DallCowby1
03-29-2007, 07:01 AM
Jarrett get's unfairly compared to Mike Williams.

But what I saw in the Rose Bowl was a WR I would compare to Michael Irvin & Keyshawn Johnson. Both of these WR's were not speed demons either.

I don't have a problem with Jarrett in the 1st rd. at pick #22!

Measureables are good. But allot has to do with what the player did on the field. Jarrett is a BIG time WR. A WR, who stepped up in big games & made plays.

thule
03-29-2007, 07:18 AM
why would you want to ship crayton just because we drafted a possesion WR....


id much rather keep crayton over hurd, glenn and owens may start 2 or so more years, then as far as youth is concerned crayton and if we drafted a rookie, it make no sense to ship him out because he has progressed, worked hard and shown he can be a very solid slot WR, i think he will play even better this year....


its not a lock DJ would assume the 3 right off the bat, and even if they did at some point, crayton would rotate in, i remember parcells saying crayton knew owens position to start him there when he broke his finger but wanted to keep him where he was, either way he has earned his right for playing time, i wouldnt mind at all if we benched our #1 pick on a WR, it surely would benefit in the future, just like carpenter may

Well the difference to me with Crayton and Hurd is...both have upside as potential #2 possession WR's...but neither of them are true #1 guys. So when looking to the future I don't see a big discrepancy in their skill set. But where their is a discrepancy right now is in their trade value. I have no idea what Crayton's value would be but it for sure would be higher than Hurds at this point. As far as I'm concerned there is only room for 2 possession WR's after TO and TG on this team....no need to have 3 of them...either don't draft one or ship someone else.

I have no doubt that DJ could become a future benefit. However there is a difference between him and Carp. Carp was able to contribute on almost every special teams unit. Do you really see that in DJ...I sure don't. I don't care if a first round pick see's a ton of time on the offensive or defensive side of the ball year one...especially with a team with this talent...but I do want to see first year production in some aspect of the game. If I'm the Dallas Cowboys...My first question I ask him is how can you contribute to our team outside of the WR position. That would weigh heavy into whether or not I would draft him. My second question would regard his character just fyi.

Paul
03-29-2007, 08:25 AM
Thoughts on this kid:

Roy Hall Ohio St.
6-2 230, 4.41 40-time
http://media.theinsiders.com/media/image/25/251273.jpg

Hall (6-2, 229) ran 4.41 and 4.42 in the 40. He also notched a 37 -inch vertical, a 10-foot-3 broad jump, a 4.13 short shuttle, a 6.65 three-cone drill and 19 bench presses.

Strengths:
Has great size and terrific bulk with long arms...Outstanding timed speed...Strong and physical...Hands are pretty good...Knows how to use his body...Can run after the catch...Above average blocker...Smart with solid intangibles...Still has upside.

Weaknesses:
An underachiever who doesn't play up to his physical tools...He was never very productive...Does not play as fast as he times and isn't real quick...Does not run great routes...May have to make a position change...Limited starting experience.

Notes:
Could project to and get looks as a tight end or H-Back at the next level...He was not invited to the Combine but tore it up at his Pro Day...Someone just may take a flyer on him based on potential alone...Intriguing and a classic workout warrior

Has the measurables and potential, and you can't really blame him for being alittle unproductive playing behind Ginn, Gonzalez and Holmes. My new sleeper.

RGVBadBoy
03-29-2007, 08:48 AM
I think Hall has the "POTENTIAL" but seriously doubt he lives up to it, kid looks like another T.O. he's 6'3 230lbs and ran 4.35 before their adjustment, but I hear he cant run a route to save his life, though he does have good hands. I think he's worth a look, but I'm for smaller speedy type WRs like Santana Moss and Steve Smith.

Peope, lets also not forget about USCs Steve Smith or UMs Logan Payne, both ran sub 4.5.

Also the London kid just put up some NICE numbers.

LSUALUM99
03-29-2007, 11:11 AM
No offense, but that's a pretty shallow way to guage a player.


Again, I know you really like the guy. To me, there are some bare minimums that you need to succeed in the NFL. I think that Jarrett will be a decent / solid pro WR. I do not think he has the speed needed to be a top WR in the NFL. I would spend a 3rd on him all day. Just not a first or second.

Only time will tell, but we're all right on some prospects and wrong on others. He just has way too many question marks to me to be a 1st round pick.

LSUALUM99
03-29-2007, 11:12 AM
I think Hall has the "POTENTIAL" but seriously doubt he lives up to it, kid looks like another T.O. he's 6'3 230lbs and ran 4.35 before their adjustment, but I hear he cant run a route to save his life, though he does have good hands. I think he's worth a look, but I'm for smaller speedy type WRs like Santana Moss and Steve Smith.

Peope, lets also not forget about USCs Steve Smith or UMs Logan Payne, both ran sub 4.5.

Also the London kid just put up some NICE numbers.

I think Steve Smith has a very good chance at being a better pro player than DJ. I would like a chance to draft him in the second.

UTPATS
03-29-2007, 11:26 AM
All I know is Carriker had a better short shuttle than DJ.

D-Unit
03-29-2007, 03:11 PM
All I know is Carriker had a better short shuttle than DJ.
Oooh, I would love that match up! Do you think Carriker could cover DJ? Wouldn't happen buddy.

Paul
04-01-2007, 11:31 AM
Had a few drops but I definitley take a look at Bowe as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvWf9-EN_g

D-Unit
04-01-2007, 01:16 PM
One name out there that I am highly intrigued by is Laurent Robinson. Small school sleeper that could be this year's Colston.

I just really dislike the thought of taking a WR in the first round. If it happens, it happens, but it's not something I would highly support.

Ward
04-01-2007, 01:56 PM
I'm a big Paul Williams guy, I think he'd be a good pick in the 3rd.

fryman
04-01-2007, 02:18 PM
One name out there that I am highly intrigued by is Laurent Robinson. Small school sleeper that could be this year's Colston.

I just really dislike the thought of taking a WR in the first round. If it happens, it happens, but it's not something I would highly support.

I would love to get Laurent Robinson. Before the combine I wanted him, but I didn't think he would run that fast, so I figured he would be too much like Hurd. He really surprised me with his combine 40 though. He always makes it look like he doesn't even have to try to get open, because his routes and moves are so good.

I do think he will take a little bit to adjust in the NFL though. He will have to increase his game speed if he wants to be able to get open on the longer routes like he did in college. He was open almost everytime he ran a route over 20 yards in college. His hands will probably help him get some playing time early, if it touches his hands he will catch it.

Laurent and Meachem are my two favorites and both are pretty much the same type player.

mtmock
04-01-2007, 03:43 PM
Dwayne jarrett is atop my board now i would like him or meachem. here is DJ's pro day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ7xQ1ZAElM

Achilles33
04-01-2007, 05:15 PM
Ward you beat me to it. I think Paul Williams could be great #1 somewhere down the line. He has all the physical tools, and just like McCualey had a greaty Junior year and stunk it up as a senior. If he is coached up and shows that his senior years were a fluke, I think be can be a quality #1 WR.

22,895
04-01-2007, 05:26 PM
Dwayne Jarrett has been getting more and more mock drafts having us pick Big Dwayne Jarrett. I hope it happens having Jarrett on my favorite University and my favorite NFL team. That would be awesome!

Finlayson56
04-01-2007, 06:47 PM
Bowe hes more like physical and he can block and thats what we need WRs that can help are running game

Ward
04-01-2007, 09:49 PM
Ward you beat me to it. I think Paul Williams could be great #1 somewhere down the line. He has all the physical tools, and just like McCualey had a greaty Junior year and stunk it up as a senior. If he is coached up and shows that his senior years were a fluke, I think be can be a quality #1 WR.

He's like a less muscled up TO. Not the best hands, but dynamite in the open field and extremely athletic.

Achilles33
04-02-2007, 07:07 AM
And he has the height to become a T.O. type player, he just needs 1 NFL off-season to bulk up and he will he there. I love the kid, he has everything.

thule
04-02-2007, 12:17 PM
I'll stick to my guns...Ginn. But really don't think we have a shot at him...he has always just been my player that could contribute the most....I still find it highly unlikely he falls past 15...and like I said 3 months ago we are going to have to move up to land him. But I'm not as high on moving up as I once was.

What I'd really like to do is take Sidney Rice. D's first prediction this year on who we'd select. He's extemely raw...but he has the potential to be better the Plax when Plax is at his best. If we can get into that 40's range he may still be around. Steal IMO.

Achilles33
04-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Actual Thule, a ton of mocks now have Ginn at 23 to the chiefs. I just don't think he warrants anything above a late 2nd rounder though. Horrible routes, bad hands, and I don't even want to imagine what would happen if someone like sean taylor, roy williams, or brian dawkins hits him, 2 of which are in our divison, and 1 he would play in practice everyday. I seriously think he would snap in half.

Remember the hit Sheldon Brown put on Reggie Bush in the playoff game? If that happened to Ginn, I think he might die. Literally.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-02-2007, 01:42 PM
when ginn runs a sub 4.3 he will shoot up draft boards

Achilles33
04-02-2007, 01:58 PM
But he is not going to. I say 4.36.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-02-2007, 02:11 PM
yeah i know I overexaggerated to make my point that he will rise after he runs

D-Unit
04-02-2007, 02:20 PM
I sure hope so... I hope he pushes someone down to us.

thule
04-02-2007, 02:59 PM
Actual Thule, a ton of mocks now have Ginn at 23 to the chiefs. I just don't think he warrants anything above a late 2nd rounder though. Horrible routes, bad hands, and I don't even want to imagine what would happen if someone like sean taylor, roy williams, or brian dawkins hits him, 2 of which are in our divison, and 1 he would play in practice everyday. I seriously think he would snap in half.

Remember the hit Sheldon Brown put on Reggie Bush in the playoff game? If that happened to Ginn, I think he might die. Literally.

I'll go on record right now saying if Ginn runs a sub 4.4 forty he'll go top 15...I'll even place a wager on it if you got something in mind.

thule
04-02-2007, 03:01 PM
McShay has a great article over at espn out.

This quote was interesting to me. If Rice falls out of the top 40 we better be trying to move.

1. Initial burst: This is the easiest of the four to measure. The best way to spot whether a receiver has good initial burst on game tape is to find the instances when he's working against an upper-echelon cornerback in man-to-man coverage. The ones gifted with this physical skill consistently drive the cornerback off the line of scrimmage, forcing him to open his hips earlier than usual. The first 10 yards of a 40-yard dash (aka 10-yard split) can also help to verify what is seen on film. Anything faster than a 1.50 is considered outstanding for a 10-yard split.

Branch and Colston are prime examples of receivers who didn't run elite times in the 40 but exploded out of the gates with quick 10-yard split times. It's worth mentioning that Aundrae Allison (East Carolina), Steve Breaston (Michigan), Mike Mason (Tennessee State), Robert Meachem (Tennessee), Sidney Rice (South Carolina), Laurent Robinson (Illinois State), Ryne Robinson (Miami-OH) and Steve Smith (USC) were the only receivers at this year's combine to clock 1.50 or faster in the 10-yard split.

Achilles33
04-02-2007, 04:13 PM
I know that when Ginn runs in the 4.3s he will be in the top 15, but as of right now a bunch of people have him going to the Chiefs, that all I'm saying.

It's to bad he will play like a 3rd rounder, and not a top 15 player though.

LSUALUM99
04-02-2007, 04:47 PM
McShay has a great article over at espn out.

This quote was interesting to me. If Rice falls out of the top 40 we better be trying to move.

I'm really starting to want Steve Smith, Sidney Rice or Jason Hill in the second round.