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RaiderNation
11-17-2011, 07:23 PM
It's never to early to talk about the draft! We will likely get a few comp. picks, hopefully 1 3rd for Nnamdi and 2 4ths for Miller and Gallery. What positions should we address on our football team?

I'm think DE, DT, OL, RB and SS could all be options. We are in need of a pass rushing specialist at DE, and also could use a DT to develop behind Seymour and Kelly. Depending on how we feel about Bruce Campbell, OL could be a possibility too. Michael Bush will likely leave in F/A, and even though I like Taiwan Jones, we need to add some beef behind DMC since he is injury prone. Also Tyvon Branch is a F/A after the season, and this could be time for either Mike Mitchell to step up or we draft a SS.

NotRickJames
11-18-2011, 04:12 PM
I don't view RB as an area of need at all. Maybe a power back in the later rounds, but that's really it for me.

I haven't followed the draft this year nearly as much as I have in years past so, I don't really know a lot of the prospects the Raiders should be targeting.

NIN1984
12-26-2011, 11:15 AM
Oakland Raiders Mock Draft

Round 5 - Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State.

Al Davis may be gone but I believe Raiders will continue to draft physical freaks and Crawford fits that mold. For his size 6'6 260, he can move. He's raw but has a ton of upside, could be available in round 5.

Round 6 - Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor

Ganaway goes 6'0 240lbs and he can run. He's having a monster season and could be a huge steal in the late rounds.

RaiderNation
01-02-2012, 02:07 PM
Here's a quick list of prospects I like so far and are in the range of our picks...

DE Jake Bequette Arkansas
CB Casey Heyward Vanderbilt
DT Derek Wolfe Cincinnati
DT Kendall Reyes UCONN
DE Cam Johnson Virginia
CB/FS Trumaine Johnson Montana

Abaddon
02-11-2012, 05:47 PM
I don't view RB as an area of need at all. Maybe a power back in the later rounds, but that's really it for me.

Still feel this way?

Bush may be gone.
McFoot is unreliable.
Cambodia Jones is an unknown, save for his tendency to get hurt more than McFoot.
Cartwright is pretty much just a STer.

If Bush leaves, we need two new tailbacks.

RaiderNation
02-12-2012, 03:12 PM
Seymour will be a Raider next season, his contract is fully guaranteed as of Friday last week. Wimbley, Huff and others futures are still unknown.

RaiderNation
02-19-2012, 02:03 PM
I has the feeling another cut will happen this week. If I had to bet Wimbley or Henderson could be next out the door, maybe Huff as well.

RaiderNation
03-17-2012, 07:16 PM
Idk when the compensary picks some out, but I can't wait to see what we get. In the 3rd we have to be looking at DE, and right now I like Jonathan Massaquoi, Cam Johnson, and Jake Bequette as possible picks. After DE I can see us going FS, OL or TE. Some 4-5 round prospects I like in those positions are: FS Phillip Thomas, FS Brandon Taylor, OT/OG Andrew Datko, OT/OG Mitchell Schwartz, TE Ladarius Green, TE Michael Egnew.

nobodyinparticular
03-18-2012, 01:44 AM
Idk when the compensary picks some out, but I can't wait to see what we get. In the 3rd we have to be looking at DE, and right now I like Jonathan Massaquoi, Cam Johnson, and Jake Bequette as possible picks. After DE I can see us going FS, OL or TE. Some 4-5 round prospects I like in those positions are: FS Phillip Thomas, FS Brandon Taylor, OT/OG Andrew Datko, OT/OG Mitchell Schwartz, TE Ladarius Green, TE Michael Egnew.

They are generally awarded at or immediately after the owner's meetings at the end of March. This year, the meetings are the 26-28.

RaiderNation
03-18-2012, 01:57 AM
They are generally awarded at or immediately after the owner's meetings at the end of March. This year, the meetings are the 26-28.

Good to know thanks, how you feeling about the team going forward?

nobodyinparticular
03-18-2012, 03:13 AM
Good to know thanks, how you feeling about the team going forward?

I feel pretty good about it in the near future. I want at least 1 offensive lineman, maybe 2. A SLB, a dependable CB (Porter please). I also want a speed rusher On the D line. I'm also not too happy with Ausberry, Gordon and Myers as our TEs.

I'd like our CB and TE help to be veteran and maybe one veteran olineman.

I think the Raiders can be okay moving forward with their few picks if they can get a couple more key contributors in FA.

Komp
03-19-2012, 07:13 PM
Signed Bartell/Shawntae Spencer at CB and Briseil at OG, brought back Cooper Carlisle, which is alright I guess for some depth at RT.

Still need to grab a big DT, maybe we will make a run at one in the draft.

RaiderNation
03-20-2012, 05:08 PM
Signed Bartell/Shawntae Spencer at CB and Briseil at OG, brought back Cooper Carlisle, which is alright I guess for some depth at RT.

Still need to grab a big DT, maybe we will make a run at one in the draft.

Carlisle will likely start at LG/RG in our new ZBS, we will see what happens at RT(Barksdale or Campbell need to step up).

I think a DE is more a pressing need than DT, Houston should see more time at DT in the new scheme but I agree a big DT to clog the middle like Henderson did is a need. DE, DT, OL, TE, CB, FS should all be addressed in the coming weeks.

Raiderz4Life
03-20-2012, 05:38 PM
Idk how Carlisle hangs around...I don't like him one bit.

I do think we need to go defense first. A solid TE would be nice though.

Xonraider
03-20-2012, 08:34 PM
Idk how Carlisle hangs around...I don't like him one bit.

I do think we need to go defense first. A solid TE would be nice though.

I think we will stay put at TE with Ausberry. Palmer rarely used Boss, I think he doesn't really throw it to them.

RaiderNation
03-20-2012, 09:13 PM
A vet TE needs to be brought in, also hearing we may bring Leinart in for a vist...

nobodyinparticular
03-20-2012, 10:19 PM
Idk how Carlisle hangs around...I don't like him one bit.

I do think we need to go defense first. A solid TE would be nice though.

I want Pat Sims in FA. Then a speed rusher with our first compensatory pick.

Raiderz4Life
03-21-2012, 05:57 PM
I want Pat Sims in FA. Then a speed rusher with our first compensatory pick.

Yea that would be nice.

I think realistically this year is going to be a wash.

Komp
03-22-2012, 09:04 AM
Carlisle will likely start at LG/RG in our new ZBS, we will see what happens at RT(Barksdale or Campbell need to step up).

I think a DE is more a pressing need than DT, Houston should see more time at DT in the new scheme but I agree a big DT to clog the middle like Henderson did is a need. DE, DT, OL, TE, CB, FS should all be addressed in the coming weeks.

We have been in the bottom five in regards to run defense for years. It blows my mind why we haven't made it a priority.....

Raiderz4Life
03-22-2012, 03:23 PM
Because...Al Davis....SPEEDZZZZZ

Raiderz4Life
03-22-2012, 06:51 PM
Man I want something to get excited about...gtdamn!! lol

RaiderNation
03-27-2012, 02:06 PM
Looks like Josh Chapman is visiting the Raiders, and could be an option for us in the 3rd. He is exactly the type of big body needed to improve the run defense, and is also a very tough kid playing through a tore ACL the entire 2011 season.

nobodyinparticular
03-27-2012, 02:33 PM
Looks like Josh Chapman is visiting the Raiders, and could be an option for us in the 3rd. He is exactly the type of big body needed to improve the run defense, and is also a very tough kid playing through a tore ACL the entire 2011 season.

I kinda like the idea of a guy like Chapman. He would be interesting on the interior when you consider he's 6'1 and Seymour and Kelly are both 6'6

RaiderNation
03-29-2012, 10:24 PM
3rd- Josh Chapman DT Alabama- Big run stuffer to play in our DT rotation with Seymour, Kelly, Houston and Bryant.

4th- Bruce Irvin OLB West Virginia
Exactly the type of athlete to play in the Von Miller role in our defense, and it's the type of pick we need to make to fill our SLB need.

5th- Tom Compton OT South Dakoda
ZBS OT that can compete with Barksdale and others for the RT job.

5th- Aaron Henry FS Wisconsin
A back up/deveopmental FS is needed behind Huff, and Henry could see extended time as a rookie.

6th- Terrence Ganaway RB Baylor- A RB will be added either through the draft or a UDFA will be picked up, and Ganaway is the type of work horse needed to go with DMC and Taiwan.

Overall: 5 prospects brought in and I can honestly see all them seeing playing time if it ended up like this.

RaiderNation
03-30-2012, 03:48 PM
Mike Goodson for Bruce Campbell? I'll take it.

RaiderNation
03-31-2012, 12:07 AM
Looks like we signed OLB Phillip Wheeler as well, good day for McKenzie and the Raiders.

RaiderNation
04-01-2012, 03:11 PM
Whats everyone's opinions on our biggest needs now that it's April?

nobodyinparticular
04-01-2012, 03:17 PM
Oline depth. OG and RT for sure.

Speed rusher on the outside. If he can play SLB too that would be a bonus.

Big mofo in the middle of the dline.

TE probably. But I guess Ausberry is really building a ton of chemistry with Palmer in So Cal right now.

Power RB?

Extra safety.

Maybe another CB. Spencer and Bartell are penciled in as starters right now, but they are the types of FAs who could go from starters in OTAs to cut in preseason. Big unknowns there. Just like our 2 draft picks from last year.

Edit: Oh yeah, and a reliable backup QB. We should have learned our lesson last year.

RaidersFan1995
04-02-2012, 03:38 AM
How do you guys feel about McClain's development?

Stash
04-03-2012, 12:55 PM
As far as what I think the team needs, I want a big ole DT to help against the run. That's something we've needed forever. Other than that, we could use depth at RB, OL, LB, DB, and a backup QB.

RaiderNation
04-08-2012, 01:30 AM
Here are some defensive prospects to watch at positions of needs for us now that we have Tollefson on the team!

DT/NT Josh Chapman (3rd)- Great fit into our DT rotation to replace Henderson.
DE/OLB Jake Bequette(3rd)- Experience SEC pass rusher that that can some DE and SLB in the NFL.
FS Brandon Taylor (3rd)- Rising FS prospect that is having very solid workouts.
DE/OLB Bruce Irvin (3rd-4th)- Very athletic pass rusher that needs the right coaching to succeed.
FS Trenton Thomas(3rd-4th)- Productive FS that could be added depending on what Huff does this year.
OLB Josh Kaddu(4th)- Would be a nice fit at SLB for us with his ability to rush the passer.
FS Aaron Henry (4th-5th)- Another productive FS prospect that could be added in the the mid rounds.
OLB Demario Davis (4th-5th)- Plan D on the OLB search, Davis is a small school sleeper that can produce.
DT/NT Hebron Fangupo(4th-5th)- Strong inside DT that will do well in a rotation like ours.
OLB Vontaze Burfict (4th-6th)- Former 1st round caliber prospect that might a steal in the late rounds if he keeps his head on straight.
DT/NT Hakeem Nicks(5th)- Nicks impressed the last few monthes and could be a nice fit with 1 of the 5th round picks.

Abaddon
04-08-2012, 02:18 AM
Not looking for any offensive linemen? I expect we'll draft one, for sure. Wouldn't bother me if we grabbed two.

TE is a gaping hole right now, too. Bad draft for TEs, but Ladarius Green at #95 wouldn't be a bad dice roll.

RaiderNation
04-08-2012, 02:33 AM
Current projected roster:

QB Carson Palmer
Terrelle Pryor
Rhett Bomar
Need?

RB Darren McFadden
Mike Goodson
Taiwan Jones

FB Marcel Reece
Manase Tonga

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
Denarius Moore
Jacoby Ford
Luis Murphy
Eddie McGee

TE Brandon Meyers
Davis Ausberry
Richard Gordon
Need?

LT Jared Veldheer


LG Cooper Carlisle
Alex Parsons
Need

C Stefen Wisniewski
Need

RG Mike Breisel
Zach Hurd

RT Khalif Barnes
Joe Barksdale

DE Matt Shaughnessy
Dave Tollefson

NT Tommy Kelly
Need

UT Richard Seymour
Desmond Bryant

DE Lamarr Houston
Need

SLB Phillip Wheeler
Need

MLB Rolando McClain
Travis Goethel

WLB Aaron Curry

CB Shawntae Spencer
Ron Bartell
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Chimdi Chekwa

SS Tyvon Branch
Mike Mitchell

FS Michael Huff
Brandon Underwood
Pat Lee

RaiderNation
04-08-2012, 02:40 AM
Not looking for any offensive linemen? I expect we'll draft one, for sure. Wouldn't bother me if we grabbed two.

TE is a gaping hole right now, too. Bad draft for TEs, but Ladarius Green at #95 wouldn't be a bad dice roll.

Forgot to put defensive prospects, and I agree a OT/OG should be drafted in the 4th/5th round where we have 3 picks combine. A pass rusher and NT need to be drafted in the 3rd and 4th, OL and DB/TE/OLB in the 5th and 6th. We have the chance to fill a lot of depth needs with our picks in the mid rounds.

Green would be a very solid pick in the 3rd if Irvin/Chapman are off the board. He would be great with our young WR's and Palmer off play action plays in the new WCO. Michael Egnew or Deangelo Peterson could be good picks as well if the values right in the 4th/5th round.

RaiderNation
04-08-2012, 02:52 AM
I'd love for the draft to end up with some type of pairing of these prospects.

3rd Josh Chapman/Bruce Irvin/Ladarius Green/Brandon Taylor
4th Mitchell Schwartz/Josh Kaddu/Michael Egnew/Trenton Thomas
5th Hebron Fangupo/Demario Davis/Deangelo Peterson/Aaron Henry/Levy Adcock
6th Akiem Hicks/Adrian Hamilton/Brian Linthicum/Kelcie McCray/Bradley Sowell

Dr griz
04-09-2012, 10:15 AM
Corderro Law DE/lb 6/7 round. he can play, look him up

Dr griz
04-09-2012, 10:17 AM
also Terrence Gannoway 5th/.6th round

RaiderNation
04-10-2012, 02:27 AM
Dennis Allen has said he feels fine about DVD and Chekwa's future on the team, both potential starters down the line. We should probably look to add another secondary player in the draft, FS makes the most sense.

Abaddon
04-10-2012, 02:49 AM
Long term starters at safety are under contract. CB is still very much up in the air.

We need another FS, no doubt. If Huff gets dinged, we're in trouble at this point. Neither Branch nor Mitchel has any business playing centerfield.

Still, we have two CBs on 1 year deals coming off of injury plagued/lost seasons, and two young guys who remain mostly unknown quantities. That's not gonna get it done.

Another FS would, however, allow Huff to spend more time covering the slot and blitzing. That would be nice.

Abaddon
04-10-2012, 02:50 AM
Corderro Law DE/lb 6/7 round. he can play, look him up

Not much of a burst. I like him as an undrafted FA pickup and practice squad guy, though.

also Terrence Gannoway 5th/.6th round

Definitely intrigued by this guy. We sorely need another RB.

Abaddon
04-10-2012, 02:56 AM
Current projected roster:

QB Carson Palmer
Terrelle Pryor
Rhett Bomar
Need? Definitely.

RB Darren McFadden
Mike Goodson
Taiwan Jones
Also a need.

FB Marcel Reece
Manase Tonga

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
Denarius Moore
Jacoby Ford
Luis Murphy
Eddie McGee
Could use a hands/routes guy here. Someone to develop and replace Louis Murphy if he's allowed to walk next year.

TE Brandon Meyers
Davis Ausberry
Richard Gordon
Need? A high priority need. This is a TE friendly offense. We need a friendly TE to make it work.

LT Jared Veldheer


LG Cooper Carlisle
Alex Parsons
Need Definitely.

C Stefen Wisniewski
Need

RG Mike Breisel
Zach Hurd

RT Khalif Barnes
Joe Barksdale
Definite need.

DE Matt Shaughnessy
Dave Tollefson

NT Tommy Kelly
Need

UT Richard Seymour
Desmond Bryant

DE Lamarr Houston
Need Gotta have a stronger nickel D-line.

SLB Phillip Wheeler
Need

MLB Rolando McClain
Travis Goethel
Need.

WLB Aaron Curry

CB Shawntae Spencer
Ron Bartell
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Chimdi Chekwa
Big need.

SS Tyvon Branch
Mike Mitchell

FS Michael Huff
Brandon Underwood
Pat Lee
Need. Not sure Lee or Underwood will be playing any FS.

This roster is holier than a religious text.

nobodyinparticular
04-10-2012, 11:53 AM
This roster is holier than a religious text.

I absolutely agree with every spot you highlighted. Has Chekwa's transition to FS been nixed? I get the feeling, even if the Raiders moved him to FS, they would still need a high quality backup to man centerfield.

I feel like the Raiders are incredibly thin at every position, needing at least depth there. At a few positions--RT, LG, OLB, CB to name a few--ideally the depth would be provided by acquiring a starter and moving the currently projected starter to backup. To have Barnes, Barksdale and Cooper at backup with a better starter at LG and RT would be the ideal situation. Eric Winston would have been a nice pickup to that end.

I absolutely agree with your assessment of needing a hands guy at WR--something that has been largely overlooked. Hagan would have been nice to keep around--another one of Hue Jackson's mistakes when he was given the reins.

RaiderNation
04-10-2012, 02:33 PM
We're going to have the chance to address at least a few needs during the draft, this year has very solid depth in the mid rounds. If we can find another pass rusher, NT, OL and RB/TE I'll be happy. 4 picks in rounds 3-5 is pretty solid.

Also Reggie McKenzie has said multiple times he says he can find a few solid UFA's as well to go with our draft picks, I'm excited to see what he can put together with the lack of recources this off season. So far I've been happy with what's happened with this off season overall...

RaiderNation
04-11-2012, 10:59 PM
Here's a new guy I've really taken a liking to after watching some tape of him today, Miles Burris looks like a perfect fit at SLB for us. 6'1 5/8 246lbs 4.67 40 17.5 sacks and 39.5 TFL the last 2 seasons. 4th/5th round value but could end up being a huge steal.

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RaiderNation
04-11-2012, 11:07 PM
Also did this after running the fastest 3 cone drill time with a 6.68

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Abaddon
04-11-2012, 11:51 PM
I absolutely agree with every spot you highlighted. Has Chekwa's transition to FS been nixed? I get the feeling, even if the Raiders moved him to FS, they would still need a high quality backup to man centerfield.

I feel like the Raiders are incredibly thin at every position, needing at least depth there. At a few positions--RT, LG, OLB, CB to name a few--ideally the depth would be provided by acquiring a starter and moving the currently projected starter to backup. To have Barnes, Barksdale and Cooper at backup with a better starter at LG and RT would be the ideal situation. Eric Winston would have been a nice pickup to that end.

I absolutely agree with your assessment of needing a hands guy at WR--something that has been largely overlooked. Hagan would have been nice to keep around--another one of Hue Jackson's mistakes when he was given the reins.

I know a guy who knows a guy, and he says that Reggie's boy Underwood is going to be working out at FS as well as CB. I didn't expect that, but I'm all for trying it out. He might address our depth there...assuming the guy can stick. Sounds like they want to develop Chekwa as a corner. If that doesn't work out, I think he still has a chance to make it as a safety.

Dumping Hagan for TJ was ridiculous. Not that Hagan is some excellent player or anything. But he did bring a skill set to the WR corps that we really don't have now. I'm sure we'll get that smoothed out.

As for depth, Reggie says that's where he is. We're going BPA, position be damned. He said we only have 5 picks and we have to make every one of them count. It's easy to fixate on need. I know I'm routinely guilty of it. But when you're rebuilding a roster with limited resources, BPA really is the only way to go. He wants depth that can come in and compete for the starting job, and I'm on board with that idea.

byron2112
04-13-2012, 05:21 PM
Some good info in this thread... you guys have a good handle on what needs to be done.

Of course we don't know exactly how Reggie's gonna display his preferences with his selections yet, but here's a draft I put together a couple days ago in a Lil' Al Davis contest.

Round 3 (95th overall): Ladarius Green, TE - La.-Lafayette
Round 4 (129th overall): Omar Bolden, CB - Arizona State
Round 5 (148th overall): Senio Kelemete, OG - Washington
Round 5 (168th overall): Alex Hoffman-Ellis, OLB - Washington State
Round 6 (189th overall): Tim 'Lil' Fugger, DE - Vanderbilt
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RaiderNation
04-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Looks like TE might not be a big need, I was talking to an insider on twitter and he said TE won't be a high priority. We also just signed former Cal State Fullerton basketball player Andre Hardy(6'5 245lbs 4.7 40). I think Reece might be used as a TE along with Ausberry and Gordon hopefully developing. We have seen Myers is a decent 2nd TE, and need Ausberry or Hardy to step up as a passing target.

Here's Hardy's workout, pretty impressive IMO.

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RaiderNation
04-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Talked with my brother today, funny thing is he told me played college football with OLB prospect Miles Burris and DT prospect Akeem Hicks. Both these guys are prospects I've have on our radar with a mid round pick, and hearing from brother of these 2 was interesting.

Burris is all the athlete he is hype up to be, my brother told me he was probably the fastest LB he had ever played with. Burris played MLB while in JR college my brother told me, which might allow us to use him in different roles if we end up going after him.

Hicks is a soft spoken physicial freak for a 6'4 318lbs DT, my brother told me. He is much different on the field though, using his great size to move blockers back at most times. He would be a nice fit to replace John Henderson in a limited role for us as a rookie.

Abaddon
04-18-2012, 05:59 AM
I would be severely disappointed if more wasn't done to address the TE position. Ausberry and Gordon are athletes lucky to be in the NFL right now. They bring little to the table. Myers is only a "good second TE" to a team that doesn't use their TEs. He's a serviceable #3 for an offense like the one we're apparently putting in.

Hardy is an intriguing project, but nothing more at this point.

Overall, the position is baron. Hard to see it any other way until one of these 4 guys does something he's never done before: Look like an NFL football player.

RaiderNation
04-19-2012, 05:28 PM
So got OT/OG Zebrie Sanders and OLB Miles Burris in the forum mock. Sanders was BPA on my board and is an experienced ZBS blocker that will play RT or LG for us in the future. Burris is a prospect I think will give this defense a real edge rusher, and likely back up Wheeler early in his career.

Looking to get a DT, DE, C/OG or WLB with my next 3 picks in the 5th and 6th rounds.

Abaddon
04-21-2012, 07:41 AM
Sanders. Ew.

Stash
04-28-2012, 03:04 PM
You nailed it with Miles Burris.

RaiderNation
04-28-2012, 05:41 PM
Here is my pick by pick grades for our draft:

3rd Tony Bergstrom OT/OG Utah Grade: B
Bergstrom might be a round too early, but what he offers to us at LG/RT had to be too much for McKenzie to pass up. Very good size, quick off the snap, and in my mind can be a starting ZBS player for us. He'll likely compete with Carlisle at LG in the pre season.

4th Miles Burris SLB SDSU Grade: A-
As many of you already know I've really liked what I saw from Burris for some time, and thought he'd be a perfect fit as a pass rusher at SLB. Burris is a high motor player that will also bring much needed intinsity to this defense. He and Wheeler should see most the time at SLB this season.

5th Jack Crawford DE Penn State Grade B+
Crawford has been a prospect that the Raiders have been eyeing since the Senior Bowl and looks to be a player that we can plug in right away into our DE rotation. This pick would have been a B grade, but trading down to get the extra 7th has to make this pick get a slighly better grade.

5th Juron Criner WR Arizona Grade: A
I'm a big fan of Criner, and he showed at the Senior Bowl he can easily be productive in the NFL. Criner is a great fit into our WR group, giving Palmer a big red zone target and also a guy who isn't afraid to go over the middle. DHB, Moore and Ford on the outside with Criner and Murphy in the slot sounds good to me.

6th Christo Bilukidi DT Georgia State Grade: C-
Small school prospect that has the size to play at the next level. He will likely need time before he see's any real action, but McKenzie must think this kid could be a run stuffer for this team in the future.

7th Nathan Stupar WLB Penn State Grade: B
Stupar is a solid prospect that projects as a very solid back up and special teams player. We needed a WLB to back up Curry, and Stupar has 4 career INT's, 10 PBU and 5 sacks. Another solid football player added to the team.

Raiderz4Life
04-28-2012, 06:42 PM
I think Bilukidi deserves a solid C...its the 6th round and he seems to have potential.

NIN1984
04-28-2012, 07:47 PM
How did we end up with a 7th round pick?

Raiderz4Life
04-28-2012, 07:53 PM
How did we end up with a 7th round pick?

We traded 4ths with Detroit and they gave us their 7th I believe.

NIN1984
04-28-2012, 08:40 PM
Did we pick up Marc Tyler or did Green Bay get him?

Komp
04-29-2012, 07:56 AM
I thought McKenzie did a decent job in a slim draft year for us. Grabbed a guy to compete on the DL, and a situational pass rusher, along with two raw, developmental prospects at DE and DT. For whatever reason I have a feeling that Crawford is going to be the best player in this draft for us over the long run. If they can add some muscle to that frame and retain the athletic ability you would have your prototypical 3-4 DE / SDE. Burris certainly fills a void as well.

Abaddon
04-29-2012, 10:53 AM
Really digging the Criner pick most of all. Love the idea of a red zone threat with a wide catch radius. High hopes for Burris, as well. I hate judging a guy based on highlight footage, but god damn. That kid has some wheels and want-to in pursuit. Love it. I look for him to immediately stand out on STs.

I didn't have Bergstrom on my radar at all, but it looks like the draftnik perceived value was about right, and he's supposed to be a tough guy. I'm in. Expecting him to start at LG sooner rather than later.

Stupar is going to be our backup MLB, so that addresses a real need.

Derek Carrier and Lucas Nix added via UDFA is more exciting to me than either of the D-line draft picks. Very intrigued to see Carrier, Hardy, and possibly even Marcel Reece vying for our starting TE job, or at the very least, significant playing time there. The position is wide open, so competition should be fun to watch.

Nix should stick due simply to the fact that we have no depth at all across the O-line.

I think Bilukidi deserves a solid C...its the 6th round and he seems to have potential.

I dunno. Seems like more of a UDFA/practice squad type. But, this is the new era of Oakland Raider drafting. May take a year or two to get the Al Davis stink off of fan perspective prospect evaluations. Gotta give Reggie the benefit of the doubt with this entire class, even if Bilukidi and Crawford look a little borderline at first.

I'm still struggling with passing up Chapman and adding two more 3/5 techs to a D-line already overstocked with that type of player.

Did we pick up Marc Tyler or did Green Bay get him?

Unofficially, he's a Packer.

NIN1984
04-30-2012, 07:52 AM
I think Reggie did a good job with limited picks. On offense Bergstrom fits the scheme perfect. I believe he will see a lot of playing time as a rookie. And I think Criner was a steal, he always reminded me of Marques Colston. On defense we did exactly what I thought, added depth at LB and on the D-line. I believe Miles Burris has a chance to compete for a starting job. We'll see.

RaiderNation
04-30-2012, 03:19 PM
The oline is shaping up very well, my only concern is what our back up Center situation turns out to be. Alex Parsons can play C/OG and is already on the roster. I think Barnes and Barksdale will end up playing a lot better than expected at RT, I actually have long term hope for Barksdale if he can slim down a bit.

I also saw we picked up FS/SS Aaron Henry from Wisconsin as a UDFA, great addition and has a chance to make the roster IMO. I'm looking for the complete UDFA list right now...

SolidGold
04-30-2012, 07:26 PM
I really liked your guy's draft. A real 180 (or 360 as deangelo hall would say) from Al Davis. They made some pretty underrated moves pre-draft - Signing Brisiel and trading Campbell for Goodson.I know a lot of the Raiders success hinges on Palmer's play. I am not a fan of Pryor at all as a QB...do you guys think the new regime will develop him at all?

This is a list of UDFAs I found:

Oakland Raiders
Marqutte King, P, Fort Valley State
Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
Dominique Hamilton, DT, Missouri
Chaz Powell, CB, Penn State
Thomas Mayo, WR, Cal (Pa)
Lucas Nix, OG, Pitt
Conroy Black, CB, Utah
Dan Knapp, OL, Arizona State
Derek Carrier, TE, Beloit
Mario Kurn, LB, San Diego
Kaelin Burnett, DE, Nevada
Brandon Carswell, USC, WR
Rod Streater, WR, Temple
Ralph Guidry, DT, Kansas State
Corey Gatewood, CB, Stanford
Darius Nall, DE, UCF (TRYOUT)

Abaddon
05-01-2012, 01:22 AM
I'm looking for the complete UDFA list right now...

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

Nothing's official until it's official, but this guy is universally considered the most plugged in UDFA source out there.

RaiderNation
05-01-2012, 02:09 PM
Aaron Henry really jumps out to me on that list, there is a real chance in my mind that he makes the team this year. Hamilton is a big NT that we need, but we'll see if he has anything to show. Also Lucas Nix is a guy Scott was high on, rated 6th on his OG rankings.

SolidGold
05-01-2012, 06:07 PM
Raiders signed Leinart. Good insurance policy IMO.

Stash
05-01-2012, 09:55 PM
I certainly feel much better about Leinart as the backup QB than Pryor.

SolidGold
05-02-2012, 08:25 AM
What do you guys think your future is going to be at the QB position? I think Pryor may even be a long shot to make the roster this year. It's too bad that was Al's last move.

Abaddon
05-02-2012, 10:11 AM
Pryor will make the roster this year. It's next year that I really wonder about him. He may be asked to make a position change by then, and if reports are accurate, he'll respond to the idea negatively.

Raiderz4Life
05-03-2012, 08:02 PM
Man I just want the Pryor experiment to end already. I also want the Palmer ordeal to end too. I just want a good QB already lol

RaiderNation
05-04-2012, 04:42 PM
Man I just want the Pryor experiment to end already. I also want the Palmer ordeal to end too. I just want a good QB already lol

Depending on how this year plays out, you may get what you want with this strong Senior QB class. There might be 4 1st Round QBs next year and if Palmer doesn't improve I can't see us passing on Barkley/Wilson/Thomas/Jones, with Bray/Murray as potential underclassmen.

Raiderz4Life
05-05-2012, 01:53 PM
Depending on how this year plays out, you may get what you want with this strong Senior QB class. There might be 4 1st Round QBs next year and if Palmer doesn't improve I can't see us passing on Barkley/Wilson/Thomas/Jones, with Bray/Murray as potential underclassmen.

I would jizz myself if we got Barkley...but I think Bray and Barks will fight for no. 1....don't see us being bad enough to get that slot but any of the other signal callers could be there.

RaiderNation
05-05-2012, 05:35 PM
I don't see us picking top 5/10, we have the offensive talent and hopefully an improved defense from a often hurt 8-8 team. If we try to get our future QB in 2013, I think he leading candidate could be a guy like Tyler Wilson. But really this season relies on how Palmer is able to improve off a up and down half season and if DMC and others can stay relatively healthy through out the season.

In other news, looks like Cedric Benson and Ryan Grant both might be guys we look to sign sometime this off season. Goodson was a good pick up, but I think he might end up being in the Rock Cartwright type role as a RB/FB. Benson has said he will sign for the veteran min, and could be the power back needed to compliment DMC/Jones.

Raiderz4Life
05-05-2012, 05:58 PM
Yea, if Rusty doesn't get it done, I would be stoked if Wilson was available to us.

I'd be ok with either one. Maybe Benson because he bangs a little more and Grant has injuries.

RaiderNation
05-05-2012, 06:05 PM
Yea, if Rusty doesn't get it done, I would be stoked if Wilson was available to us.

I'd be ok with either one. Maybe Benson because he bangs a little more and Grant has injuries.

Both guys have visited other teams and left without deals so far and Raiders insiders have said the Raiders have interest. So hopefully this might turn out as a waiting game to see what UDFA impress teams.

Also it's rumored Tommy Kely will be used as a NT when we give a 3-4 front, with Seymour and Houston likely getting the starting jobs at DE. Tollefson will hopefully be used as a stand up pass rusher to go with Burris and Wheeler. I'm so excited to see our defense finally have an up to date scheme.

Raiderz4Life
05-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Both guys have visited other teams and left without deals so far and Raiders insiders have said the Raiders have interest. So hopefully this might turn out as a waiting game to see what UDFA impress teams.

Also it's rumored Tommy Kely will be used as a NT when we give a 3-4 front, with Seymour and Houston likely getting the starting jobs at DE. Tollefson will hopefully be used as a stand up pass rusher to go with Burris and Wheeler. I'm so excited to see our defense finally have an up to date scheme.

Love those 4-3/3-4 hybrid systems. I'm preferably a 4-3 guy but the hybrid Ds just appeal to me haha

Komp
05-07-2012, 08:17 AM
Not sure I like Kelly as a 3-4 NT....he seems too interested in getting to the QB to be a dominant run stuffer. Him/Seymour/Houston would make a fairly lethal rotation of 3/4 DE's tho, and I think Shaughnessy has the athleticism to rotate in at the rush LB spot.

3-4 NT's are born, not made.

Stash
05-07-2012, 03:44 PM
I don't know if I'm sold on Kelly as a NT either, that's one of the reasons I really wanted a NT in the draft.

Abaddon
05-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Since we're likely to remain a 1 gap style defense, we don't need a clogger at NT. I'd love to have one, but that's not what this type of defense uses. We need a guy who can jump into the A gap and blow plays up. Kelly might be able to handle that.

He's certainly a better fit as a DE in a 34, but...in Dennis Allen we trust...I guess.

Raiderz4Life
05-08-2012, 02:45 PM
If we run the hybrid defense that's being talked about he won't be in at NT all game anyways.

RaiderNation
05-08-2012, 03:03 PM
If we run the hybrid defense that's being talked about he won't be in at NT all game anyways.

Exactly, I see us being more a base 4-3, with some 3 DL looks as well. Kelly excelled at collapsing the pocket inside and he should be a good pass rushing threat at NT for us. Have Seymour and Houston/Shaughnessy at DE, with Wheeler/Burris and Tollefson standing up as pash rushers.

Bulldogs
05-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Was working out with Christo today, he's pretty f'ing huge. I'm really hopeful he makes your roster. He's definitely working his ass off right now.

RaiderNation
05-10-2012, 05:01 PM
Here's some non-football related Raiders news:

DHB has been charged with a DUI

DMC was seen clubbing with Rihanna according to TMZ

RaiderNation
05-12-2012, 06:55 PM
Here is my projected 53 man roster for the 2012 season now that the draft is over and UDFA are signed:

QB Carson Palmer
Matt Leinart
Terrelle Pryor

RB Darren McFadden
Mike Goodson
Taiwan Jones

FB Marcel Reece
Owen Schimitt

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
Denarius Moore
Jacoby Ford
Juron Criner
Louis Murphy

TE Brandon Myers
David Ausberry
Richard Gordon

LT Jared Veldheer
LG Cooper Carlisle
C Stefen Wisniewski
RG Mike Brisiel
RT Khalif Barnes

OT/G Tony Bergstrom
OT/G Joseph Barksdale
C Colin Miller
G Lucas Nix

4-3 Defense

DE Matt Shaughnessy
Jack Crawford

DT Tommy Kelly
Christo Bilukidi
Travis Ivey

DT Richard Seymour
Desmond Bryant

DE Lamarr Houston
Dave Tollefson

SLB Phillip Wheeler
Miles Burris

MLB Rolando McClain
Nathan Stupar

WLB Aaron Curry
Travis Goethel

CB Ron Bartell
Shawntae Spencer
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Chimdi Chekwa
Brandon Underwood

SS Tyvon Branch
Mike Mitchell
Aaron Henry

FS Michael Huff
Matt Giordano

Special Teams:

K Sebastian Janikowski
P Shane Lechler
LS Jon Condo

Potential 3-4 DLINE depth chart

DE Richard Seymour
Desmond Bryant

NT Tommy Kelly
Travis Ivey

DE Lamarr Houston
Christo Bilukidi

It's too hard to project how the OLB's will look depending on certain players look standing up. Players like Matt Shaughnessy and Jack Crawford are 270lbs+ which is a odd weight in 3-4 schemes since usually OLB's are in the 240-265 range and Dline is 285-320lbs+ range. Miles Burris has the potential to play some ILB and OLB in both the 4-3 and 3-4 schemes. A player who I think might do well in the 3-4 is Aaron Curry who will likely play ILB. We basically played a 5-2-4 last year with Wimbley lining up on the TE usually with McClain and Curry at LB.

Raiderz4Life
05-12-2012, 07:30 PM
Gooing over our Rookie MC pics...McKenzie is one ugly sombitch lol

Raiderz4Life
05-12-2012, 07:41 PM
I hope someone beats out Carlisle...I can't stand him and want him gone really bad. Barksdale or Bergstrom will have to step up and take that spot, Barksdale has been with us for a few years now and should be ready to take it...least I can hope.

I'm pulling really hard for Christo...Idk why but he's my guy from this class.

Our TE situation looks a little messy, none of those guys instill confidence in me.

Abaddon
05-12-2012, 08:08 PM
We already know Stupar is a MLB now, so that's one adjustment I see.

I'm also doubting Christo makes the roster this year. Someone like Kaelin Burnett, Derek Carrier or Rod Streater would be more likely.

Also can't imagine rolling with the same 3 TEs as last season. That would be the biggest surprise of all to me.

Dropping Giordano for one of Reggie's hand picked youngsters also seems extremely likely.

That's also an ugly backfield. We need another RB in the worst way.

RaiderNation
05-13-2012, 12:27 AM
Benson or Grant in would be great additions to our back field to back up DMC, the team might feel comfortable with Goodson/Jones if they can stay healthy.

Raiderz4Life
05-13-2012, 01:12 PM
I think Christo can make it. I really want him to, idk why.

Taiwan Jones will be solid but I'd feel better with someone like Benson tbh.

Abaddon
05-13-2012, 08:15 PM
Not feeling Benson or Grant at all. I'd rather gamble on some youngster in the 4 hole than pay vet minimum to either of those bottom of the barrel types.

Bulldogs
05-13-2012, 10:21 PM
I think Christo can make it. I really want him to, idk why.

Taiwan Jones will be solid but I'd feel better with someone like Benson tbh.

Underdog story for life! Haha, I still think it's crazy that I guy I would hang around might be on an NFL roster. He's my older brother's friend more than anything. Here's his highlight tape, it's pretty solid. I'm not going to make any guarantees, again, he's very raw. He didn't even play football until Grade 12, he was a basketball guy throughout high school and one of the top soccer goalies in the province at an even younger age.

STiBwfkomOY

RaiderNation
05-15-2012, 02:42 PM
So Criner made some awesome catches today according to twitter reports, and also Palmer looked like he has more zip on the ball. David Ausberry was he 2nd team TE, he's bulked up and still has the hands.

Andre Hardy was released, along with Rhett Bomar

Raiderz4Life
05-15-2012, 02:48 PM
Was almost a sure thing Bomar would get released so no surprise there.

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:05 PM
Underdog story for life! Haha, I still think it's crazy that I guy I would hang around might be on an NFL roster. He's my older brother's friend more than anything. Here's his highlight tape, it's pretty solid. I'm not going to make any guarantees, again, he's very raw. He didn't even play football until Grade 12, he was a basketball guy throughout high school and one of the top soccer goalies in the province at an even younger age.

STiBwfkomOY

Kids a freaking beast, and he's a saint.

RaiderNation
05-15-2012, 10:14 PM
Also looks like we signed FB Owen Schimitt, who can be a blocking FB behind Reece and already has experience in Knapps offense from his Seattle days. Upgrade over Tonga

RaiderNation
05-17-2012, 12:41 AM
Seems to be very likely that we bring in a veteran TE depending on how Knapp feels about our TE's. He said he thinks he are probably set at WR for now, but will see how the TE situation turns out. I think the coaching staff is hoping for Ausberry/Reece to be TE weapons on roll outs. If Ausberry can show enough in the mini camps we might not sign a TE, but if we do expect it be Visanthe Shiancoe or Jeremy Shockey . Both are vet experienced TE's that can block and still be a decent weapon in the pass game. I'm don't like the feeling of having Myers slotted in as our starting TE.

McClain court situation might have took a bad turn. A video has emerged of the incident in Alabama last year, showing McClain doing some the claimed charges on the victim. If he ends up getting a 8+ suspension we will have to look for a LB depth.

Raiderz4Life
05-17-2012, 04:55 PM
I think I'd rather roll with Shiancoe over Shockey. I used to love Shockey but not no mores!!

Stash
05-17-2012, 07:34 PM
McClain court situation might have took a bad turn. A video has emerged of the incident in Alabama last year, showing McClain doing some the claimed charges on the victim. If he ends up getting a 8+ suspension we will have to look for a LB depth.
Sounds like he's getting 6 months jail time, there's a pretty good chance Goodell suspends the crap outta him on top of that.

Abaddon
05-17-2012, 08:07 PM
Also looks like we signed FB Owen Schimitt, who can be a blocking FB behind Reece and already has experience in Knapps offense from his Seattle days. Upgrade over Tonga

Not if you put any stock in what PFF says. Apparently, they don't like Owen at all.

Abaddon
05-17-2012, 08:09 PM
Sounds like he's getting 6 months jail time, there's a pretty good chance Goodell suspends the crap outta him on top of that.

Reading now that he's set to have a trial by jury, so this sentence is meaningless now. I've never heard of such a thing, but I also don't have the funds to manipulate the justice system. It's amazing what a little money can do.

Raiderz4Life
05-17-2012, 08:14 PM
Not if you put any stock in what PFF says. Apparently, they don't like Owen at all.

PFF is a joke.

Abaddon
05-17-2012, 08:18 PM
Likely. But, they watch more tape than we do. They're a resource, even if they're not a be all, end all.

Stash
05-17-2012, 09:41 PM
Reading now that he's set to have a trial by jury, so this sentence is meaningless now. I've never heard of such a thing, but I also don't have the funds to manipulate the justice system. It's amazing what a little money can do.
Wow, I hadn't heard that. All I heard was that he was appealing it. Either way, I see Goodell bringing down the hammer regardless of what happens in court.

RaiderNation
05-17-2012, 09:48 PM
Gary Brackett might be the best F/A option at MLB, but he's coming off a season ending shoulder injury so he'd likely come in on a try out. Our LB crew is very weak

Abaddon
05-17-2012, 10:24 PM
It's a shame when you sign one LB, draft two more, and you're still a couple LBs short. How does that even happen?

RaiderNation
05-18-2012, 01:34 PM
It's a shame when you sign one LB, draft two more, and you're still a couple LBs short. How does that even happen?

Al Davis wasn't good with selecting LB's in his final years. Or at least the scheme was so horrible where LB's simply couldn't do what was asked. Watching Kirk Morrison cover Brandon Marshall was so bad to watch...

Abaddon
06-06-2012, 09:31 PM
Kinda like watching McClain chasing Megatron downfield. Sigh.

RaiderNation
07-28-2012, 10:45 PM
With all the cap space we've open up recently I don't see how a RB/TE/LB is added. Benson would be a huge addition, not sure how the RB/FB situation would work out though if he's signed.

Abaddon
07-29-2012, 05:44 PM
I wouldn't exactly call Benson a "huge" signing. He's not exactly a stud.

RaiderNation
07-30-2012, 01:59 AM
I wouldn't exactly call Benson a "huge" signing. He's not exactly a stud.

I'd consider him an upgrade over Bush, and hopefully we'll only have to sign him to a 1 year deal. A RB needs to be added, I don't like Goodson having the title as DMC's back up.

NotMyJob
09-05-2012, 02:45 AM
Anybody goin to the opener?

RaiderAg
09-14-2012, 10:52 PM
Sup y'all...let's beat Miami. I hope we end up drafting in the middle 3rd of the 1st Round, but I wouldn't be surprised if we draft in the first 3rd.

Raiderz4Life
09-15-2012, 01:34 AM
Welcome to DC and to the Raiders board. Would like to pick mid-round but probably looking at top 10

thenewfeature06
10-09-2012, 10:24 AM
Hey guys.. what positions should be addressed in our draft?

QB first round depending whats there?

DE pass rush?

Outside of that where do we go and do we go a different position than those two in the first round? I did a little more than half a mock yesterday and I believe has us picking in the top 10 towards the back end and had us get Barkley..just thoughts..

Raiderz4Life
10-12-2012, 03:00 PM
Oakland at Atlanta. What are your thoughts?

Some people are giving us a chance at the upset but I honestly don't see it. Not AT Atlanta. The secondary is still crap and they have Julio Jones and Roddy White. Old man Tony can still get it done with his route running. Matt Ryan will tear the D a new one if we can't get after him.

On offense I can see us maybe staying around for a little bit. They're without Grimes and their pass rush isn't all that great either. DMC HAS to get it going for Oakland to have any chance and the receivers have to really step up.