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D-Unit
11-23-2011, 01:34 PM
Destination for the #2 QB?
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http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/was.gif Washington (3-7) at http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/sea.gif Seattle (4-6)

I think there are 5 teams that will have QB near or at the top of their priority list in Round 1 of the 2012 draft (unless they address QB through FA or trade).

They are the Colts, Redskins, Seahawks, Dolphins and Broncos.

There may be some unsuspecting others like the Browns, Chiefs, or Cowboys, but they may or may not go that route. At least it's less certain in their cases.

So what does any of this have to do with this Seahawks/Redskins game?

Well, by the looks of things, the Colts are looking to be the team to select Andrew Luck right now (things could change), so the competition for the next best QB could boil down to the loser of this game. In Denver, Tim Tebow's success is taking the Broncos further and further away from picking at the top of draft and Miami looks intent on trying to win. They might end up being the hardest focused non-playoff spot fighting team all the way up to Week 17.

In the case that some of the other losing teams find their way to top picks, without needing to address the QB position...like the Rams, Panthers, Vikings, Jags, Cardinals or Chargers, you could always potentially see a trade up possibility from another team in need, but all things being equal... this game between Washington and Seattle could boil down to which team gets the 2nd best QB prospect in the draft, so watch this one closely!


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Indy out of Luck?
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http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/car.gif Carolina (2-8) at http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/ind.gif Indianapolis (0-10)

Could this be the week that Indy gets their first win? Cammy Cam lovers won't like the sound of that to start their Holiday Season, but such just might be the case. The way the Panthers have been playing most of the season, I don't know if there's another team out there that better defines the term "playing to the level of your competition".

Let's take a look at their past schedule...

Week 1 - Arizona Cardinals @ Arizona (0-0) L 21 - 28
Week 2 - Green Bay Packers vs Green Bay (1-0) L 23 - 30
Week 3 - Jacksonville Jaguars vs Jacksonville (1-1) W 16 - 10
Week 4 -Chicago Bears @ Chicago (1-2) L 29 - 34
Week 5 - New Orleans Saints vs New Orleans (3-1) L 27 - 30
Week 6 - Atlanta Falcons @ Atlanta (2-3) L 17 - 31
Week 7 - Washington Redskins vs Washington (3-2) W 33 - 20
Week 8 - Minnesota Vikings vs Minnesota (1-6) L 21 - 24
Week 9 Bye
Week 10 - Tennessee Titans vs Tennessee (4-4) L 3 - 30
Week 11 - Detroit Lions @ Detroit (6-3) L 35 - 49

Look at that schedule, 6 of their 8 losses have come within 7 points or less and the oddest thing is that those losses are coming from teams of all different kinds of varying strength levels. They can play toe to toe versus the likes of Green Bay, Chicago, New Orleans and Detroit... yet take losses against a 1-6 Vikings, or a weak Cardinals team who's 1 of 3 wins so far have come from none other than the Panthers, themselves.

If the Panthers continue that trend and play to the level of play of their opponents, then I could realistically see these Colts coming away with their first win of the season... at home... on Thanksgiving weekend. Afterall, it's just a win versus a team with a 2-8 record. Hardly the upset of the year.

Conspiracy theorists who think the Colts are controlling their willingness to want to lose and want to win will like this....

Wouldn't it be telling... that the Colts who seemingly look like they have been losing on purpose all year, would now get their first win...? This is their first time this season where they can afford to win AND STILL be guaranteed to be in last place!

Indy shouldn't get too cute though... because the last 3 games of the season come against inner division rivals... the Titans in Week 15, the Texans in Week 16 and the Jaguars in Week 17. Don't put it past your mind for one second to think that any of those teams wouldn't relish the idea of purposely tanking their meaningless end-of-season games against Indy just to spite the Colts attempt at getting the #1 overall pick and locking in Andrew Luck. What's a single game in comparison to a decade plus of facing the danger that is potentially there in having Andrew Luck as your division rival's QB? Especially to a team like Indy who has dominated the division.

If Carolina loses to Indy and if a combination of their AFC South rivals take season ending losses to Indy, the Colts might end up with 3 wins and muff thier chance to get Andrew Luck!

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All eyes on Kalil
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http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/ari.gif Arizona (3-7) at http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/stl.gif St. Louis (2-8)
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/min.gif Minnesota (2-8) vs http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nfl/teams/1/50x50w/atl.gif Atlanta (6-4)

The one position that is extremely weak at the top in this year's draft class is Offensive Tackle. Especially in comparison to recent prior years. There is Matt Kalil at the head of this class and then there is everybody else. Jonathan Martin's stock is losing steam so much so that there is budding talk that he could end up as a better Guard than Tackle in the NFL.

There will be draft ramifications for this weeks winners and losers in these 2 games. The benefit of being in position to draft Kalil is going to start to take shape. So this will be interesting to say the least. 3 of the 4 teams in this discussion could likely be the destination for Kalil. The Cardinals, Rams, and Vikings all need to address LT.

In the ARZ at STL game... you have two teams who are currently slotted to be picking close to each other and both would be near the top the draft in prime range to draft Kalil. So the winner, or should I say... loser this weekend... could be the team that lands Kalil and the other will have to settle for another position OR be forced to reach for the next best available Tackle.

Now, I don't think any of these teams will alter any game plans to lessen their desire to win during the season just to be in a better position to draft Kalil, but I did want to point to the direction where this thing could be heading depending on this week's results.

The MIN/ATL game looks like another loss for MIN, which keeps them in a tight race with the loser of the ARZ/STL game. That makes these 2 weekend games interesting in the eyes of those fans wanting Matt Kalil on their team next year for sure!

Rosebud
11-23-2011, 02:09 PM
I've got the colts getting their only win against the Schaub less Texans to make that teams week 17 matchup with division rival Tennessee have division champ ramifications. Gotta think the Colts would love it if their only win cost Houston the division crown...as much as any team can love having only one win. If that game doesn't fire them up enough to play the way they did against the steelers, then nothign will and this Carolina game is their only chance to win.

D-Unit
11-23-2011, 02:30 PM
I've got the colts getting their only win against the Schaub less Texans to make that teams week 17 matchup with division rival Tennessee have division champ ramifications. Gotta think the Colts would love it if their only win cost Houston the division crown...as much as any team can love having only one win. If that game doesn't fire them up enough to play the way they did against the steelers, then nothign will and this Carolina game is their only chance to win.
I can see them winning for a different reason...

That being if the Texas have already clinched the playoffs. Then I think they would even more likely want to lose to the Colts. You could see some of the Texans main starters sit.

Texas could easily have 10 wins by the time they meet the Colts in Week 16. They have the Jags this week, and Carolina in Week 15. If they win that, that's 9 wins right there. A win against ATL or CIN in between those 2 games, makes it 10 wins, and that is not inconcievable.

I really don't think the Texans will completely derail because of the loss of Schaub.

Plus, if Houston didn't win the division, then someone else would. Would the Colts really care if the Titans won instead? Doubt it.

nobodyinparticular
11-23-2011, 03:14 PM
Waiting for a draft preview special that discusses the Raiders draft....

shylo3716
11-23-2011, 03:19 PM
@D-Unit

Trent Richardson's possible fall out of the top 10 plus his destination?

Can you at least give us a top 10 preview of what you prophecize?

49erNation85
11-23-2011, 03:20 PM
Waiting for a draft preview special that discusses the Raiders draft....

Do they even have enough picks by now ?

D-Unit
11-23-2011, 03:29 PM
Waiting for a draft preview special that discusses the Raiders draft....
Haha... I like a challenge.... but that one would require sooome fabulous day dreaming session. :)

Rosebud
11-23-2011, 04:36 PM
I can see them winning for a different reason...

That being if the Texas have already clinched the playoffs. Then I think they would even more likely want to lose to the Colts. You could see some of the Texans main starters sit.

Texas could easily have 10 wins by the time they meet the Colts in Week 16. They have the Jags this week, and Carolina in Week 15. If they win that, that's 9 wins right there. A win against ATL or CIN in between those 2 games, makes it 10 wins, and that is not inconcievable.

I really don't think the Texans will completely derail because of the loss of Schaub.

Plus, if Houston didn't win the division, then someone else would. Would the Colts really care if the Titans won instead? Doubt it.

I have Atlanta and Cincy beating the Texans pretty handily without Schaub. Both are teams that can be beat by attacking them deep, with Leinart in for Schaub I don't see the Texans being effective, even with that running game.

I think the Colts would get a boost out of getting to play a hand in who wins the South.

Raiderz4Life
11-23-2011, 05:00 PM
Waiting for a draft preview special that discusses the Raiders draft....

Think you need picks to have a draft....

Crazy_Chris
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
I think it's pretty safe to say the Cardinals are out of the race for Kalil with their victory today. So that leaves it to the Rams & Vikings, here are the remaining schedules...

Vikings
Broncos
@Lions
Saints
@Redskins
Bears

Rams
@49ers
@Seahawks
Bengals
@Steelers
49ers

This could go down to the last game of the year. The Rams potential wins are against the Seahawks, or the 49ers(only if they rest starters). The Vikings could potentially win games against the Broncos, Redskins, or Bears(only if cutler is still gone). Unfortunatly to me it looks like the Rams have the best shot at Kalil.

Go_Eagles77
11-27-2011, 05:00 PM
Is it wrong that I'm finding myself rooting for the redskins so I don't have to watch the eagles play Robert Griffin twice a year?

D-Unit
11-28-2011, 08:01 PM
Is it wrong that I'm finding myself rooting for the redskins so I don't have to watch the eagles play Robert Griffin twice a year?
Since the Redskins won and Seattle lost, I think the likelihood that Griffin is a Redskin only increases. Barkley is the #2 QB and Seattle/Carroll won't pass on this USC product. He ain't in the Taylor Mays category of prospects.

D-Unit
11-28-2011, 08:04 PM
I think it's pretty safe to say the Cardinals are out of the race for Kalil with their victory today. So that leaves it to the Rams & Vikings, here are the remaining schedules...

Vikings
Broncos
@Lions
Saints
@Redskins
Bears

Rams
@49ers
@Seahawks
Bengals
@Steelers
49ers

This could go down to the last game of the year. The Rams potential wins are against the Seahawks, or the 49ers(only if they rest starters). The Vikings could potentially win games against the Broncos, Redskins, or Bears(only if cutler is still gone). Unfortunatly to me it looks like the Rams have the best shot at Kalil.
Yep. Any Cards fans hoping for Kalil can probably kill that dream. But they can be happy about yesterday's win..... riiiiiight? lol.

I really want to know if ARZ fans are happy about winning in their current situation. fenikz?