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SuperPacker
11-24-2011, 01:36 PM
Hitting someone's head against the floor and stamping on his arm. He deserved to get kicked out of the game and in my eyes he doesnt have a place in football. He should be banned for 1 week minimum! Hes never gonna learn other wise.

ImBrotherCain
11-24-2011, 01:39 PM
Thread worthy? I mean we already have one about him being dirty

mat33
11-24-2011, 01:41 PM
He may be dirty, but who doesn't want a dirty DT?

VernonLawson89
11-24-2011, 01:43 PM
The reasons why i hate the Lions. Their coach is a douchebag and Suh is a POS.

Complex
11-24-2011, 01:44 PM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/048/743/KILLER_LOWDOWN_BRAH.jpg

CJSchneider
11-24-2011, 01:48 PM
I also think that it is safe to say this probably didn't need its own thread.

shylo3716
11-24-2011, 01:54 PM
This guy was deemed as a dirty man....ironic part was Michael was being interviewed during the time of the incident speaking positives.

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Him as well!

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Paul
11-24-2011, 01:54 PM
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11-24-2011, 02:03 PM
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ChiFan24
11-24-2011, 02:08 PM
A Packers fan starting a thread about something that happened to a Packer. What a nice change of pace.

FUNBUNCHER
11-24-2011, 02:16 PM
Suh plays out of control, but if that's the dirtiest play you've ever seen on a football field, you must have started watching the sport last week.
Suh needs to play with greater emotional maturity because he's making himself a target.
If you're a guy other teams know is going to blow his cool if you stress him, that's what teams are going to do.

It's laughable that a GB fan would even start a thread like this when they're absolutely humiliating the Lions.

Stop being so soft, cheesy.

And what's 'stamping'?? Is that a British thing??

This isn't cricket. It's football. American style.
Someone is doing something unsportsmanlike on just about every play.

Raiderz4Life
11-24-2011, 02:18 PM
You think them O-linemen don't pinch ppl's nipples when they get their hands inside them pads while blocking???

BRAVEHEART
11-24-2011, 02:19 PM
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That's how I feel about it.

BloodBrother
11-24-2011, 02:22 PM
I admire that he is trying to change the culture in Detroit, but this just ended up hurting his team in a big game today

can't get yourself ejected

Matthew Jones
11-24-2011, 02:24 PM
Suh has deserved his "dirty" reputation for some time now.

Jimmy
11-24-2011, 02:30 PM
I also think that it is safe to say this probably didn't need its own thread.

Disagree. People are clearly wanting to talk about it in 14 replies so far.

This is the icing on the cake, this is proof that the dude is just a scumbag. And it's a big deal, the dude is the face of one of the most up and coming franchises in the NFL.

AND Suh will probably get suspended or fined at least 50k-75k for this.

So I think that it is worth it's own thread.

Notredameleo
11-24-2011, 02:34 PM
The reasons why i hate the Lions. Their coach is a douchebag and Suh is a POS.

Irony at its finest.

Trogdor
11-24-2011, 02:38 PM
Nothing has changed. He was dirty before and he's dirty now. He's a defensive lineman part of the job is to be dirty but smart about it. Suh has the unfortunate problem of being stupid and dirty hence public attention and penalties (and soon to be suspensions).

Breed
11-24-2011, 02:47 PM
Ndamukong Suh is a wannabe Albert Haynesworth

Ness
11-24-2011, 02:49 PM
Holy **** Pam Oliver's ass has gotten even bigger.

Ness
11-24-2011, 02:55 PM
Irony at its finest.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-slOFOoHhxoQ/Tp2nNOQ0ztI/AAAAAAAACF4/sjY9ZgsMK5k/s1600/jim-schwartz.jpg

And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling kids.

CJSchneider
11-24-2011, 02:58 PM
Holy **** Pam Oliver's ass has gotten even bigger.

Slapp'n it got it swoll.

JBCX
11-24-2011, 03:12 PM
Suh is one of the more overrated players in the NFL.

Raiderz4Life
11-24-2011, 03:21 PM
Disagree. People are clearly wanting to talk about it in 14 replies so far.

This is the icing on the cake, this is proof that the dude is just a scumbag. And it's a big deal, the dude is the face of one of the most up and coming franchises in the NFL.

AND Suh will probably get suspended or fined at least 50k-75k for this.

So I think that it is worth it's own thread.

Most of the replies arent serious lol

PoopSandwich
11-24-2011, 03:26 PM
yeah he gets alot of mud and grass stains on him over the course of a game i'm surprised the lions don't fine him for making them get him a new jersey and socks and shoes every game

descendency
11-24-2011, 03:28 PM
He may be dirty, but who doesn't want a dirty DT?

When he's your best player, every team that wants to win.

Crazy_Chris
11-24-2011, 04:29 PM
What I did was remove myself for the situation in the best way I felt and me being held down in the situation that I was in and for that, my intentions were not to kick anybody, as I did not, removing myself.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2011/11/detroit_lions_defensive_tackle_6.html

Apparently Suh is trying to suggest he was merely trying to throw Dietrich-Smith's hand off his foot... LOL

NY+Giants=NYG
11-24-2011, 04:31 PM
Suh has to be the dirtiest player in the NFL. What a scum bag of a player!

Raiderz4Life
11-24-2011, 04:34 PM
Man, ppl need to stop crying. Seriously....they act like he's the only one. Dirty p[lays happens ALLL THE ******* TIME! It just so happens Suh is dumb enough to get caught.

cmarq83
11-24-2011, 04:37 PM
From watching it I didn't really think it was that big of a deal. Probably warranted him getting kicked out, but I think a suspension is really over the top for this situation. It's not like Haynesworth where he basically assaulted someone on the field. He was in the moment, and he probably felt like the lineman was trying to trip him so he stomped once and got out. Pretty dirty but we see crap like this every week.

niel89
11-24-2011, 04:43 PM
I hope that Suh gets a game suspension for this. He's been a consistent with his questionable play and has been fined many times. You can't allow something like that go. x

Sloopy
11-24-2011, 04:47 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/34877/verbatim-ndamukong-suh

I'm first and foremost only going to apologize to my teammates, my coaches and my true fans for allowing the refs to have an opportunity to take me out of this game

Complex
11-24-2011, 04:49 PM
Overreaction....huh

Brothgar
11-24-2011, 04:53 PM
http://azsportstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/brett-favre_cry1.jpg

Boston
11-24-2011, 05:32 PM
Funny seeing that from a Lions fan..

phlysac
11-24-2011, 05:55 PM
I was fine with it until he blatantly lied and said "The Man upstairs" knows he's telling the truth.

LOL

BloodBrother
11-24-2011, 05:56 PM
Speaking of the man upstairs, Tim Tebow was just asked and said that Suh is a dirty player

NY+Giants=NYG
11-24-2011, 06:02 PM
Speaking of the man upstairs, Tim Tebow was just asked and said that Suh is a dirty player

Haha! Tebow would know!

Brodeur
11-24-2011, 06:04 PM
Meh, Suh's been outplayed by Corey Williams this year anyway.

Sloopy
11-24-2011, 06:34 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/markschlereth/status/139863971191734272

Ndamukong Suh said his stomp was unintentional...let me guess, restless leg syndrome?

I laughed at this one

phlysac
11-24-2011, 06:38 PM
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adjective
1.
having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions: Senators who think they will get agreement on a comprehensive tax bill are delusional.
2.
Psychiatry . maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts, usually as a result of mental illness: He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought everybody was conspiring against him.

Prowler
11-24-2011, 06:58 PM
Overblown. This wasn't some guy getting jacked on the street, this is football. I love how people act like he was viciously slamming the guy's head on the ground, it wasn't that bad. It was basically CPR from 6 inches away from the ground, its not like he threw him the top ropes onto a concrete ground. The "stomp" wasn't even a full stomp. He was getting up and vented his frustration by kicking his leg down. He clearly did stomp, but it was more of a "I'm putting my leg down and I don't give a **** if you are there or not." Its a huge difference from "I'm going to put my cleats into you." If he wanted to hurt the guy, then he would have been dead. Obviously he needs to learn control, but getting kicked from the game plus a fine should cover it. He let his emotions lead to a tantrum and it hurt the team.

It has nothing to do with a Haynesworth type incident.

phlysac
11-24-2011, 07:08 PM
Overblown. This wasn't some guy getting jacked on the street, this is football. I love how people act like he was viciously slamming the guy's head on the ground, it wasn't that bad. It was basically CPR from 6 inches away from the ground, its not like he threw him the top ropes onto a concrete ground. The "stomp" wasn't even a full stomp. He was getting up and vented his frustration by kicking his leg down. He clearly did stomp, but it was more of a "I'm putting my leg down and I don't give a **** if you are there or not." Its a huge difference from "I'm going to put my cleats into you." If he wanted to hurt the guy, then he would have been dead. Obviously he needs to learn control, but getting kicked from the game plus a fine should cover it. He let his emotions lead to a tantrum and it hurt the team.

It has nothing to do with a Haynesworth type incident.

It's his denial that I have issue with. Own your actions.

LonghornsLegend
11-24-2011, 07:18 PM
That was one of the worst responses I've ever heard in my life. He's going to get ripped for that big time. Best thing to do is say "I should have never put my team in that situation so I apoligize and it won't happen again I want to move on ".


His lame ass "explanation" makes him come off like an entitled cry baby. That, and what he was saying didn't even make any sense.

Borat
11-24-2011, 07:20 PM
Hahahaha. Stupid Suh.

fear the elf
11-24-2011, 07:22 PM
I like how "it's football" is a good enough excuse for some people...there are plenty of guys playing football that don't rip quarterbacks down by their head's (multiple times), or slam other players heads into the ground repeatedly, or stomp on players laying on the ground.

At the very least, like phlysac said, own your actions. Be accountable. It's as simple as, "yeah, I was frustrated and let my emotions get the best of me." How hard is that?

phlysac
11-24-2011, 07:26 PM
I like how "it's football" is a good enough excuse for some people...there are plenty of guys playing football that don't rip quarterbacks down by their head's (multiple times), or slam other players heads into the ground repeatedly, or stomp on players laying on the ground.

At the very least, like phlysac said, own your actions. Be accountable. It's as simple as, "yeah, I was frustrated and let my emotions get the best of me." How hard is that?

Well, said.

It's ironic that just moments prior to being ejected he ripped his blockers helmet completely off and he wasn't flagged.

BRAVEHEART
11-24-2011, 07:26 PM
That's why we american football.


some people just don't understand that.

Borat
11-24-2011, 07:38 PM
This bot is on crack.

BloodBrother
11-24-2011, 07:51 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/802902/455193472.gif

You did not intentionally step on him?

Ndamukong Suh: Not by any means. I understand in this world because of the type of player and the type of person I am, all eyes are on me. So why would I do something to jeopardize myself and jeopardize my team first and foremost? So with that, that's why, I don't do bad things. I have no intention to hurt somebody. If I want to hurt him, I'm going to hit his quarterback, as I did throughout that game.

*side note* Suh had 0 QB hits in the game

What was the leg motion?

Ndamukong Suh: What was the leg motion? I'm on one leg and I'm trying to get off that myself and at the same time being pushed by his teammates. So where, how am I supposed to do anything else?

It looked like you pushed down forcefully.

Ndamukong Suh: I'm pushing down forcefully to get up and get myself out of the situation.

Have you seen the replay?

Ndamukong Suh: Yes, I have seen it.

What do you see on replay? Do you see a guy getting up or a guy stepping on another guy?

Ndamukong Suh: If I see a guy stepping on somebody, I feel like they're going to lean into it and forcefully stand over the person or step on that person. I'm going in the opposite direction from where he's at. So that's where I'll leave it.

It also appeared you pushed his helmet multiple times.

Ndamukong Suh: Yes, I did push his helmet multiple times because he's holding on to me and he's grabbing me. That's the reason why I'm on the top of him and I'm not at the quarterback. Because I'm being held down by him and so I'm pushing him off of me.

yeah uh...nice explanation there, Suh

WMD
11-24-2011, 07:57 PM
Suh is a jackass.. a very talented jackass, but a jackass. He needs to know when not to do stupid stuff like that.

Like when it's 3rd and Goal, your team is only down by a touchdown, and the opponent fails to convert. Your dumbass penalty then gives them a new set of downs from the 1 yard line. That's probably a bad time to do that.

Block Captain-DirtyDot
11-24-2011, 08:00 PM
Suh is a guy who is going to self-destruct in this league unless he gets a handle on his maturity issues. The way he acts on the field and especially off the field is not the way a professional acts.

J-Mike88
11-24-2011, 08:04 PM
LOL@ Suh...... he helped us out so much today. Even though some Lionzz fanzzz are dismissing it, saying Corey Williams has outplayed him this year anyway..... what an idiot.

This guy has a career in politics lying thru his teeth like that with a straight face. Amazingly poised, almost like he believed it himself.

The guys on CBS expect a suspension, and said Haynesworth got 5 games for a foot stomp on a guy and he didn't have anywhere near the cheap shot history that Suh already has.

Suh needs anger management.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
11-24-2011, 08:04 PM
Today was slightly questionable. Most of the time i see him trying to kill the quarterback and i say good for him. Take the ty cobb quote and apply it to football "When I began playing the game, baseball was about as gentlemanly as a kick in the crotch."

comahan
11-24-2011, 08:05 PM
Football's next great top heel. Even his explanation was super-heelish.

I love it. Sports needs more heels.

WMD
11-24-2011, 08:10 PM
Football's next great top heel. Even his explanation was super-heelish.

I love it. Sports needs more heels.
Well yes.. but not when it's costly like that. It's just dumb.

Brodeur
11-24-2011, 08:12 PM
Football's next great top heel. Even his explanation was super-heelish.

I love it. Sports needs more heels.

He's going to have a Bash at the Beach 96 moment soon.

WMD
11-24-2011, 08:13 PM
Roger Goodell will come out and drop 20 chairs on Suh next week.

BloodBrother
11-24-2011, 08:22 PM
Roger ends up joining forces with Suh

SWERVE

BloodBrother
11-24-2011, 08:23 PM
lame double post

Brodeur
11-24-2011, 08:25 PM
Roger ends up joining forces with Suh

SWERVE

Vince Russo is behind the NFL?

BloodBrother
11-24-2011, 08:31 PM
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/v/vincerusso/03.jpg

Brodeur
11-24-2011, 08:35 PM
You see, when Suh and Goodell join forces, he will be able to run free and wild as Vince Russo dictates. He will be able to legally grab Marion Barber's hair this time, and legally tackle Jay Cutler AND GET NO FINE. In addition, stomping will be very much allowed.

And that's how Vince Russo plans to make Jeff Jarrett the NFL champion.

bearfan
11-24-2011, 08:42 PM
Every time I see Suh play he does something questionable. I swear his goal is to rip off the heads of everyone he plays against. How many times can this guy do the snapping of the neck motion and not get fined/flagged? Goodell just needs to look at the tape from this season and suspend Suh to teach him that he cannot go on playing as recklessly as he has been.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
11-24-2011, 08:47 PM
Lets pop in a tape of the 70's steelers teams or any team from the 70's nobody would bat an eye to what Suh does. Wish football was still that way.

FUNBUNCHER
11-24-2011, 09:00 PM
Suh is a guy who is going to self-destruct in this league unless he gets a handle on his maturity issues. The way he acts on the field and especially off the field is not the way a professional acts.

WHat?? Is Suh a member of a outlaw biker gang after practice??

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/highwaymen-patch.jpg

Suh is trying too hard to act intimidating, instead his play should be his calling card.
Charles Woodson, Clay Matthews and BJ Raji are 'intimidating' football players, because at any given moment during the course of a game they can make a momentum changing play.

Suh is playing up to his self-perceived image instead of finding a way to counter double teams and still make an impact.

Reggie White was literally doubled, tripled and held on every play when he was with the Eagles, and some fans would call him a crybaby because he was always bitching to the refs about it.
Eventually Reggie figured out how to anticipate how teams were going to block him pre-snap and learned to split a double team.

Suh has to figure it out, but the only way you change the way teams play you is to counter it, not by trying to 'bully' another 320# man wearing reinforced plastic armor!lol

Block Captain-DirtyDot
11-24-2011, 09:07 PM
Lets pop in a tape of the 70's steelers teams or any team from the 70's nobody would bat an eye to what Suh does. Wish football was still that way.

Ya! Stomping guys after the whistle, that's awesome football!

Raiderz4Life
11-24-2011, 09:15 PM
Ya! Stomping guys after the whistle, that's awesome football!

YA! Totally missing points is also awesome!!

Brodeur
11-24-2011, 09:20 PM
Suh is trying too hard to act intimidating, instead his play should be his calling card.
Charles Rogers, Clay Matthews and BJ Raji are 'intimidating' football players, because at any given moment during the course of a game they can make a momentum changing play.

Suh is playing up to his self-perceived image instead of finding a way to counter double teams and still make an impact.

Reggie White was literally doubled, tripled and held on every play when he was with the Eagles, and some fans would call him a crybaby because he was always bitching to the refs about it.
Eventually Reggie figured out how to anticipate how teams were going to block him pre-snap and learned to split a double team.

Suh has to figure it out, but the only way you change the way teams play you is to counter it, not by trying to 'bully' another 320# man wearing reinforced plastic armor!lol

Is it the pot?

FUNBUNCHER
11-24-2011, 09:24 PM
Is it the pot?

Afraid I'm already brain damaged!!;/

What's funny is when I was writing 'Charles Rogers', in my mind I thought I was misspelling his first name.

Monomach
11-24-2011, 09:33 PM
He's the dirtiest player in the NFC North right now, but he needs to step up his game if he wants the all-time title

lTLlaMY_9PM

I can't wait to see how many flags Suh is going to get with the reputation he's built for himself.

Raiderz4Life
11-24-2011, 09:42 PM
He's the dirtiest player in the NFC North right now, but he needs to step up his game if he wants the all-time title

lTLlaMY_9PM

I can't wait to see how many flags Suh is going to get with the reputation he's built for himself.

I raise yours:

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n551/wrestlerj91/dobler.jpg

Monomach
11-24-2011, 09:44 PM
I raise yours:

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n551/wrestlerj91/dobler.jpg

Dobler may have bitten people and poked at eyes and whatnot, but he never picked up a quarterback and bodyslammed him onto his throwing shoulder like ten minutes after the ball left his hands.

FUNBUNCHER
11-24-2011, 09:46 PM
I blame Schwartz. He's either condoning or encouraging Suh's style of play which is going hurt Suh in the long run.

If the Lions ever hope to become a team that can beat the elite teams in the NFL, they need to learn to execute and play better football.

wogitalia
11-24-2011, 09:50 PM
Meh... when the Packers don't have injuriezzz to complain about they really do become a bunch of whiny bitches don't they...

Suh is awesome, it's trench warfare, toughen up you bunch of princesses and get on with it, if you hold a guy don't be surprised if he pushes, punches and kicks to get off.

I wish a few Vikes would play more like him, but hey, I like my football unashamedly violent and I'm perfectly happy with that. If I wanted to watch netball or soccer I'd watch netball or soccer.

/Rant.

BRAVEHEART
11-24-2011, 10:01 PM
This is how I feel whenever Ndamukong makes a "dirty" play.

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(nvm the Tears for Fears song)

He's really playing in the wrong era of football. He's the modern day Butkus (Intelligent and articulate, but a ferocious animal on the field).

WMD
11-24-2011, 10:15 PM
This is how I feel whenever Ndamukong makes a "dirty" play.

U9xBJwkL3Oc
(nvm the Tears for Fears song)

He's really playing in the wrong era of football. He's the modern day Butkus (Intelligent and articulate, but a ferocious animal on the field).
How dare you 'nevermind' a Tears for Fears song. They are amazing.

Scotty D
11-24-2011, 10:32 PM
This was the first play by Suh that I had a problem with.

I'm not making excuses for him but put yourself in his position. You leave your heart out on the field every play and it all gets erased by refs throwing ticky tack flags that change the entire course of the game. Its going to get very frustrating and build up when you have the mindset of a guy like Suh. But yes that was a dirty play that I can't defend.

Suh should be playing in the old time NFL not this pussified version of football.

FUNBUNCHER
11-24-2011, 10:36 PM
He's getting held and it's not getting called. Suh just lost his cool.

bearsfan_51
11-24-2011, 10:37 PM
He's going to have a Bash at the Beach 96 moment soon.
"You don sold ya soul to da devil!!"

dannyz
11-24-2011, 10:38 PM
My option is biased because I am a Huge Nebraska and Suh Fan but how would you feel if you know all an Offensive linemen has to do is start a fight with you and you get kicked out of the game? I think Suh needs to cool it down because now he has the reputation to where if he makes a perfectly clean tackle but lays someone out he will get flagged and fined.

D-Unit
11-24-2011, 10:40 PM
This was the first play by Suh that I had a problem with.

Sooo.... why?

bearsfan_51
11-24-2011, 10:40 PM
Hitting someone's head against the floor and stamping on his arm.
"Stamping"? Really!?!

Scotty D
11-24-2011, 10:44 PM
Sooo.... why?

He was out of control and could have injured someone.

phlysac
11-24-2011, 10:47 PM
"Stamping"? Really!?!

It's actually completely accurate.

stamping
present participle of stamp (Verb)
Verb:

Bring down (one's foot) heavily on the ground or on something on the ground.
Crush, flatten, or remove with a heavy blow from one's feet: "he stamped out the flames before they could grow".

where as...

stomp·ing /ˈstämpiNG/
Adjective:

(of music) Having a lively stamping rhythm.

phlysac
11-24-2011, 11:02 PM
you may want a different dictionary (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stomp) (at least in the second case).

not trying to be difficult, but where in your link is a definition more accurate than the usage of "stamping?"

WMD
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
Arguing over Stomp and Stamp? In a Suh thread?

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WMD
11-24-2011, 11:15 PM
i was solely talking about the second definition, not which word was right. i figured while we're all being pedantic, we might as well be *really* pedantic.

pedantic? or pedontic? or plastic?

bearsfan_51
11-24-2011, 11:16 PM
It's actually completely accurate.



where as...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kgIElBZAs1c/Ta-KB-RHTBI/AAAAAAAAAQU/0rRCR7ps0s8/s1600/Patrick-+Mind+blown.jpg

WMD
11-24-2011, 11:42 PM
platonic. at least for now.
I like where this is headed.

wogitalia
11-24-2011, 11:55 PM
platonic. at least for now.

**** It, that **** is ***!

You stamp out a fire, but honestly that just sounds wrong in this case, Suh straight stomped him! Respect.

Notredameleo
11-25-2011, 12:05 AM
Its so frustrating because I dont know get it. He is a very intelligent man who is great off the field (their was a comment earlier about him being worse off the field?). He needs to keep his composure. Today, he was very stupid and selfish. He killed what little momentum the team had.

PoopSandwich
11-25-2011, 01:14 AM
suh didnt do it he was getting his balance the man upstairs knows it too how dare you downgrade him and belittle him for doin everything right

Bosanac01
11-25-2011, 01:24 AM
When I try to balance myself I just stomp the person that's the closest to me. The man upstairs knows this.

robert pancake gallery
11-25-2011, 02:06 AM
i know i will probably get flamed because i am in the minority on this issue but here goes.

i actually can relate to suh and what he's saying; i live in an eight story apartment building, and there is this dude that lives above me that i see once in a while. every time i pass him on the elevator or stairs he's always telling me to shove people's faces in the ground and stomp the **** out of their legs.

soybean
11-25-2011, 02:27 AM
this guy will fit in nice next to suh on that team. mI4-RjMpD6Q

VernonLawson89
11-25-2011, 07:22 AM
Suhspension

LonghornsLegend
11-25-2011, 07:37 AM
Suh should be playing in the old time NFL not this pussified version of football.

Everyone seems to be focusing on this, and not the fact that he cost the team points on that 3rd down play, and then had no sort of accountability for his actions after the game. I have a bigger problem with his response afterwards, and the fact that him being a hot head turned a 4th down fg into a new set of downs that lead to a TD, when it was only 7-0 at the time.


If everyone just passes off what he does and says "oh he's old school that's all" he'll constantly put the team in crappy situations. He's supposed to be a leader on a team that's young anyway, you just can't run around making stupid decisions that affect the entire team because you want to rough some people up.



He mashed a dude's head down big deal, he should have just left it at that. Then after the game you man up and say "so what"? I pushed his head down some because he had been grabbing me. His account of the story and what happened as he saw it makes him look like a bigger douche, because if he believes that he really does have a problem.

Sloopy
11-25-2011, 07:44 AM
Everyone seems to be focusing on this, and not the fact that he cost the team points on that 3rd down play, and then had no sort of accountability for his actions after the game. I have a bigger problem with his response afterwards, and the fact that him being a hot head turned a 4th down fg into a new set of downs that lead to a TD, when it was only 7-0 at the time.


If everyone just passes off what he does and says "oh he's old school that's all" he'll constantly put the team in crappy situations. He's supposed to be a leader on a team that's young anyway, you just can't run around making stupid decisions that affect the entire team because you want to rough some people up.



He mashed a dude's head down big deal, he should have just left it at that. Then after the game you man up and say "so what"? I pushed his head down some because he had been grabbing me. His account of the story and what happened as he saw it makes him look like a bigger douche, because if he believes that he really does have a problem.

Amen.

Passing this as "old school" is straight crap. Old school players would also be expected to man up for their mistakes and take responsibility for their actions.

Not to mention old school teammates would have probably kicked the crap out of him for costing them that stop on third down.

TimmG6376
11-25-2011, 08:23 AM
I could deal with the scrum on the ground. "Heat of the moment" and all that, but the kick at the end was way over the line. And anyone who watches that highlight can see that it was unecessary and intentional.

phlysac
11-25-2011, 08:25 AM
And old-school guys would say "Hell yeah I did it! I was pissed and wanted to teach him a lesson. I didn't mean to hurt my team, and I'm sorry for that, but that guy, and anyone else I play the rest of the season will know not to eff with me!"

But Suh says "I didn't do it, I swear, just ask God."

WCH
11-25-2011, 09:28 AM
Here's what happened: Suh was handled by a backup player he had probably never heard of, and he isn't emotionally equipped to deal with his frustration.

This wasn't old school, hard-nosed football. Suh was acting like a 12 year old *****, which is unfortunate because he's one of the best players in the NFL.

Prowler
11-25-2011, 12:30 PM
Here's what happened: Suh was handled by a backup player he had probably never heard of, and he isn't emotionally equipped to deal with his frustration.

This wasn't old school, hard-nosed football. Suh was acting like a 12 year old *****, which is unfortunate because he's one of the best players in the NFL.

By handled, you mean held right?

As far as everyone else. I think most people are suffering from Grandma-itis with this. Their grandma's were in the room, so they view the situation through an 80 year old woman's perspective.


"OMG!!! This is outrageous!!! I have never seen such horror!"

The dude was frustrated, sent the olineman a message that he didn't like what was going on by burying his head in the turf. He ''stamped'' in frustration because of the situation that he put himself in.

He's got to own his mistakes, but he probably wasn't actually trying to step on the guy. Big deal.

"He's so dirty! OMG! That Timmy Tebow would never do such a thing!"

iowatreat54
11-25-2011, 01:04 PM
Wait, do you really believe he was just stamping the ground in frustration and that the OL's arm just so happened to be in his way? Really?

I mean, he didn't just stamp straight down. He stamped out to the side right where the arm was. He was obviously aiming to hit the guy.

The Alex
11-25-2011, 01:09 PM
I'm fine with heels in professional sports. I hope the Lions embrace it and start using dirty tactics when the ref isn't looking. Maybe they hire Mr. Fuji as an assistant coach so he can throw salt in the eyes of opponents.

CJSchneider
11-25-2011, 01:14 PM
After looking at it a few more times, you can see his arm is hooked and he is pushing (and most likely) yelling at Dietrich-Smith, who grabbed his knee (albeit slightly) and his leg yank reaction grew into an unnecessary stomp. I think it does more prove he was frustrated and lost control than it does to say he is a dirty player.
I'm not saying he isn't dirty, but I am saying he lets his emotions get the best of him in situations and that may end up being detrimental to his image.

bearfan
11-25-2011, 01:24 PM
Besides the stomping, has anyone else noticed that Suh almost intentionally goes for peoples heads? I've seen multiple times where he rips off a helmet, or grabs by a helmet, in this case after the play he was shoving the guy down by the helmet... I just think that with the new rules in place which place a premium on player safety that the league should punish him for violently attacking the head on multiple occasions since that is the one area that they have focused on.

iowatreat54
11-25-2011, 01:25 PM
I'm fine with heels in professional sports. I hope the Lions embrace it and start using dirty tactics when the ref isn't looking. Maybe they hire Mr. Fuji as an assistant coach so he can throw salt in the eyes of opponents.

I actually would have no problem with Suh, or anyone on the Lions for that matter, accepting their reputation as dirty and embracing it. It would just be something for other teams to think about and possibly make them lose focus on the game.

What I hate is that Suh acts like he never does anything wrong and that everyone is out to get him. He plays the victim card and pretends like he's cleaner than anyone in the league. Just admit what you're doing and get on with it, and stop being a douche about it.

bucfan12
11-25-2011, 01:25 PM
Suh is looking at a suspension and he deserves it. What tickes me off about this whole situation is he thinks he did nothing wrong after watching his interview after the game. No apologies. He's a flat out scumbag for doing that. Wasn't necessary at all.

stephenson86
11-25-2011, 02:15 PM
It was all clearly deliberate in the heat of the moment, without a doubt. But the guy needs to find his balls and man the **** up, he acts like a ***** when he gets accused of being anything but Tim Tebow.

phlysac
11-25-2011, 04:10 PM
Besides the stomping, has anyone else noticed that Suh almost intentionally goes for peoples heads? I've seen multiple times where he rips off a helmet, or grabs by a helmet, in this case after the play he was shoving the guy down by the helmet... I just think that with the new rules in place which place a premium on player safety that the league should punish him for violently attacking the head on multiple occasions since that is the one area that they have focused on.

Nearly every game he has grabbed a guy by the facemask and ripped his helmet off. He did it earlier in the Packers game but didn't draw a flag. KVB did for much less violently pushing a facemask.

FUNBUNCHER
11-25-2011, 04:51 PM
No player ever admits to playing 'dirty'.
What game are you guys watching??

The trick to playing outside the lines is to ACT like you aren't doing it.
'Mean' Joe Greene had a rep for being a borderline dirty, but great player, for the the Steelers in the '70s.
Depending on how talented the player is, it can work in their favor.

Rodney Harrison was considered a dirty player. But also one of the best safeties in the game who provided an edge to the Pats D.

Forget Suh admitting he's ever done something outside the rules on a football field, especially if he believes in his mind that he's retaliating to dirty playing committed against himself.

BRAVEHEART
11-25-2011, 04:54 PM
Nearly every game he has grabbed a guy by the facemask and ripped his helmet off. He did it earlier in the Packers game but didn't draw a flag. KVB did for much less violently pushing a facemask.

Cool story, bro.

phlysac
11-25-2011, 07:14 PM
Cool story, bro.

I shouldn't have said "nearly every game" but... He did it twice against the 49ers, alone. He did it on Thursday. I saw it in 2 other games. Pretend it doesn't happen all you want... bro.

BRAVEHEART
11-25-2011, 07:16 PM
He did it twice against the 49ers, alone. He did it on Thursday. I saw it in 2 other games. Pretend it doesn't happen all you want... bro.

Those are great facts you got there. You've really convinced me, bro.

Bosanac01
11-25-2011, 07:22 PM
Everyone knows he's dirty except him, but it's ok as long as it doesn't hurt his team like it did on yesterday.

bearfan
11-25-2011, 07:23 PM
Those are great facts you got there. You've really convinced me, bro.

Regardless of whether or not you acknowledge it, it has happened. Playing like that, ripping other players helmets off isnt allowed and I do not know how he hasnt been fined/flagged for it on every occasion. The biggest one for me was when he ripped Cutler's helmet off, it looked like he was trying to break his neck.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)
11-25-2011, 07:31 PM
Someone add a poll to this thread asking if we'd want Suh on our favourite team. Then we'll figure out that whether he is or isn't dirty is not important.

nepg
11-25-2011, 07:38 PM
Rodney Harrison was dirty as ****, and I was glad to have him.

CJSchneider
11-25-2011, 07:48 PM
Someone add a poll to this thread asking if we'd want Suh on our favourite team. Then we'll figure out that whether he is or isn't dirty is not important.

Add me to the side that WOULD take him in a heartbeat.

MetSox17
11-25-2011, 07:55 PM
He's no Bill Romanowski.

Basileus777
11-25-2011, 07:57 PM
Someone add a poll to this thread asking if we'd want Suh on our favourite team. Then we'll figure out that whether he is or isn't dirty is not important.

You can't use that argument when he's actively hurting his team with these sort of mistakes. He directly cost his team 4 points yesterday before he was ejected.

Rodney Harrison was dirty as ****, and I was glad to have him.
Even Rodney has been calling Suh out for being dirty in a really stupid way that isn't helping his team.

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 07:58 PM
Suh's response on facebook:

n the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game and I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration.

Playing professional sports is not a game. It is a profession with great responsibility, and where performance on and off the field should never be compromised. It requires a calm and determined demeanor, which cannot be derailed by the game, referee calls, fans or other players.

I want to reiterate my commitment to working to become a better player, and professional—on and off the field. My reaction on Thursday was unacceptable. I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning.

Basileus777
11-25-2011, 08:00 PM
Some PR person finally got him to say the sensible thing, but we saw his real response yesterday.

CJSchneider
11-25-2011, 08:04 PM
Playing professional sports is not a game

Wait, I thought it was a game?

LonghornsLegend
11-25-2011, 08:06 PM
Some PR person finally got him to say the sensible thing, but we saw his real response yesterday.

Haha right. I kinda hate this part of society though. Everyone knows those aren't his real feelings, so why does it make him "look better", so to speak. I just never saw the point.

yo123
11-25-2011, 08:06 PM
Could he have made it more clear that he didn't write that? And probably didn't even post it to facebook himself?

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 08:09 PM
Some PR person finally got him to say the sensible thing, but we saw his real response yesterday.

You know what? I think he's just an angry dude that has some issues owning up to things in the heat of an argument or confrontation. That is something I think we all do to a much lesser level, and not in the national spotlight.

I honestly thinks he knows he ****** up. He just has this mental thing going on where he gets so into it, he tells himself he's in the right. And then he figures it out after it's wayyyy too late. It's like when you get in a fight with someone and they have you absoltely cornered. You're just flat out wrong, but mentally, you're not ready to admit it. You're too caught up in the moment, and you almost tell yourself you aren't in the wrong.

You leave the scene of the storm and give yourself a bit to cool down and you begin to realize that you acted like a monster. And you have to apologize.

By no means am I condoning what he did, but I am saying... He's got anger issues. And he takes every single scuffle and every single cut block personally. And any bit of roughness thrown at him, and that's the main issue. Most NFL players do use that as motivation, but he genuinely takes it personally, in the truest sense of the word.That's what makes him a great player, and that's what makes him run. That's what pisses him off as well, and that's his fatal flaw. His mind is telling him to fight back, and he's going to need to change that, or his career will be ruined.

MetSox17
11-25-2011, 08:10 PM
I don't know if it's just because i don't understand "the business", but i don't get why more athletes don't manage their own fb/twitter accounts. All that PC **** is annoying. I know if i was famous i'd always speak for myself and not be constrained by what publicists think.

Basileus777
11-25-2011, 08:17 PM
He had plenty of time between getting ejected at the end of the 2nd quarter and that press conference to cool down. I'd be a lot more sympathetic to that line of reasoning if he wasn't already a repeat offender. He hasn't even played two full seasons and has already been involved in 4 or 5 incidents. He was already aware that he had an reputation for being dirty, he did a big PR stunt with Goodell to help improve his image. I don't think anyone is disputing that he's young and immature, that's the whole problem here. It's why I think it's silly to act like he's some tough enforcer helping his team. Costly penalties that give your opponents points, getting ejected and likely suspended, creating a bunch of negative media attention around your team, these are not things you want a young leader on your team to do, they don't help anyone in the Lions organization.

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 08:22 PM
He had plenty of time between getting ejected at the end of the 2nd quarter and that press conference to cool down. I'd be a lot more sympathetic to that line of reasoning if he wasn't already a repeat offender. He hasn't even played two full seasons and has already been involved in 4 or 5 incidents. He was already aware that he had an reputation for being dirty, he did a big PR stunt with Goodell to help improve his image. I don't think anyone is disputing that he's young and immature, that's the whole problem here. It's why I think it's silly to act like he's some tough enforcer helping his team.

Sometimes, what the average joe perceives as "plenty of time to cool down" isn't enough time.

I think he intentionally hurts these players out of sheer anger, but I do think he understands it's wrong... but way later than the average person should.

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 08:23 PM
He had plenty of time between getting ejected at the end of the 2nd quarter and that press conference to cool down. I'd be a lot more sympathetic to that line of reasoning if he wasn't already a repeat offender. He hasn't even played two full seasons and has already been involved in 4 or 5 incidents. He was already aware that he had an reputation for being dirty, he did a big PR stunt with Goodell to help improve his image. I don't think anyone is disputing that he's young and immature, that's the whole problem here. It's why I think it's silly to act like he's some tough enforcer helping his team.

Sometimes, what the average joe perceives as "plenty of time to cool down" isn't enough time.

And I think he's a repeat defender because of what I explained. It's in his DNA. It's who he is. He ALWAYS takes it personally, and he gets too worked up to accept it.

I think he intentionally hurts these players out of sheer anger, but I do think he understands it's wrong... but way later than the average person should.

edit: and just because we all know the dude wouldn't have met up with goodell if not for him being personal image conscious... I still think he knows he's wrong.

CJSchneider
11-25-2011, 08:25 PM
It felt more from the heart the first time you posted it ;)

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 08:32 PM
It felt more from the heart the first time you posted it ;)

then i redact my redaction

Basileus777
11-25-2011, 08:39 PM
Sometimes, what the average joe perceives as "plenty of time to cool down" isn't enough time.

And I think he's a repeat defender because of what I explained. It's in his DNA. It's who he is. He ALWAYS takes it personally, and he gets too worked up to accept it.

I think he intentionally hurts these players out of sheer anger, but I do think he understands it's wrong... but way later than the average person should.

edit: and just because we all know the dude wouldn't have met up with goodell if not for him being personal image conscious... I still think he knows he's wrong.

You might be right, not knowing the guy I obviously can't say for sure. Yesterday's press conference didn't give me the impression of a person that was all that self-aware, but I hope he really does regret it. Either way, he still needs to learn some control and discipline. He's still got a chance to figure it out and put all of this behind him, he wouldn't be the first dirty player to do so.

Rosebud
11-25-2011, 09:01 PM
You know what? I think he's just an angry dude that has some issues owning up to things in the heat of an argument or confrontation. That is something I think we all do to a much lesser level, and not in the national spotlight.

I honestly thinks he knows he ****** up. He just has this mental thing going on where he gets so into it, he tells himself he's in the right. And then he figures it out after it's wayyyy too late. It's like when you get in a fight with someone and they have you absoltely cornered. You're just flat out wrong, but mentally, you're not ready to admit it. You're too caught up in the moment, and you almost tell yourself you aren't in the wrong.

You leave the scene of the storm and give yourself a bit to cool down and you begin to realize that you acted like a monster. And you have to apologize.

By no means am I condoning what he did, but I am saying... He's got anger issues. And he takes every single scuffle and every single cut block personally. And any bit of roughness thrown at him, and that's the main issue. Most NFL players do use that as motivation, but he genuinely takes it personally, in the truest sense of the word.That's what makes him a great player, and that's what makes him run. That's what pisses him off as well, and that's his fatal flaw. His mind is telling him to fight back, and he's going to need to change that, or his career will be ruined.

Usually when someone proves that something I thought was true, isn't, i thank them for helping me be better informed, not get angry like some douchebag. Then again, I realized getting pissy and throwing a fit didn't help when I was a still pretentious little snot.

Sometimes, what the average joe perceives as "plenty of time to cool down" isn't enough time.

I think he intentionally hurts these players out of sheer anger, but I do think he understands it's wrong... but way later than the average person should.

Sucks for him, but that's not going to stop the league from reacting. This is his job, he's letting his emotions negatively affect his employers. It's not acceptable. It's not like professional athlete is the only high pressure profession in this country and at the vast majority of those jobs, letting your inability to control yourself and your emotions negatively effect your performance and company will not be tolerated.

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 09:04 PM
You might be right, not knowing the guy I obviously can't say for sure. Yesterday's press conference didn't give me the impression of a person that was all that self-aware, but I hope he really does regret it. Either way, he still needs to learn some control and discipline. He's still got a chance to figure it out and put all of this behind him, he wouldn't be the first dirty player to do so.

Ndamukong has proven one thing. He lies at the extremity of one of two ends of the emotional spectrum. He is either just an incredibly human guy with anger issues and immaturity issues that he can't admit readily (my argument) or there is your argument.

The scary thing is that your argument (which is most of america's argument) that he isn't self aware means that he is medically psychotic. Which very well could be. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was bi-polar or psychotic, and that would rev up or short circuit his motor on the field.

Psychosis is a loss of contact with reality, usually including false beliefs about what is taking place or who one is (delusions) and seeing or hearing things that aren't there (hallucinations).

Psychotic symptoms may include:

Disorganized thought and speech
I'm on one leg and I'm trying to get off that myself and at the same time being pushed by his teammates. So where, how am I supposed to do anything else?

False beliefs that are not based in reality (delusions), especially unfounded fear or suspicion

What I did was remove myself from the situation in the best way I felt,” Suh said, adding, “My intentions were not to kick anybody, as I did not, removing myself.


Hearing, seeing, or feeling things that are not there (hallucinations)
And as I'm getting up, I'm getting pushed, so I'm getting myself on balance and getting out of the situation.

Thoughts that "jump" between unrelated topics (disordered thinking)
And honestly, the most important person in this whole thing that I have to deal with is the man upstairs.

Jimmy
11-25-2011, 09:09 PM
Usually when someone proves that something I thought was true, isn't, i thank them for helping me be better informed, not get angry like some douchebag.

I think my point is being missed. When people get angry, they're not angry because somebody has proved them wrong. They're angry because of whatever got them into the argument in the first place. And they just don't register that they're wrong until it's too late.

I think the point here is that Suh is already angry. He isn't mad because the ref ejected him. He's mad because he has problems and he showed it when he stomped on the guy.


Sucks for him, but that's not going to stop the league from reacting. This is his job, he's letting his emotions negatively affect his employers. It's not acceptable.

It might not be acceptable, but it's a very human reaction. And that's my argument.

Rosebud
11-25-2011, 09:14 PM
I think my point is being missed. When people get angry, they're not angry because somebody has proved them wrong. They're angry because of whatever got them into the argument in the first place. And they just don't register that they're wrong until it's too late.

I think the point here is that Suh is already angry. He isn't mad because the ref ejected him. He's mad because he has problems and he showed it when he stomped on the guy.




It might not be acceptable, but it's a very human reaction. And that's my argument.

I'm sorry but "I was angry" is not an excuse to so colossally screw things up for your employers. That might be what's caused this, but dude better start getting laid more, smoking more weed or, you know, finding a shrink, to get that anger issue worked out. If he's not going to address this immaturity it's going to continue to be a big issue that'll cost both Suh and the Lions dearly. Just because you're in control of your emotions doesn't mean you can't be angry and play angry and let that anger fuel your play, it just means when that anger starts to boil over he needs to learn to corral it back in and keep it from going off the handle. I understand that not everyone who turns 18 has actually grown up and become a functional human being, but that doesn't mean they won't have to figure it out eventually just because that's the kind of adult they started as.

J-Mike88
11-25-2011, 09:29 PM
I think he's an ABM, and he hates "the man".
Who have his 4 major victims been:

Evan Dietrich-Smith
Andy Dalton
Jake Delhomme
Jay Cutler


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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AFfUcDyYBtA/TkZxvnSVFoI/AAAAAAAARnE/L_KvcXl5dRg/s1600/suh3.jpg
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http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/54/545ff099416064a191f194ce1a9589d4/detroit_bad_boys_ndamukong_suh_ejected_after_stomp ing_on_opponent.jpg

CJSchneider
11-25-2011, 09:40 PM
The one against Cutler was BS. He pushed Cutler to the ground and they called it a "forearm".

nobodyinparticular
11-25-2011, 09:55 PM
Some PR person finally got him to say the sensible thing, but we saw his real response yesterday.

I wouldn't be surprised if a PR guy actually did that for him. Suh doesn't actually feel that way, but if he doesn't change his tune, Goodell is likely to suspend him longer than Albert Haynesworth just for the fact that he shows no remorse.

J-Mike88
11-25-2011, 09:57 PM
The one against Cutler was BS. He pushed Cutler to the ground and they called it a "forearm".
Yeah that one shouldn't have even been a penalty.
But in another game, he had a worse assault on the Cutler.
Still, it wasn't as severe as these other 3.....

Raiderz4Life
11-25-2011, 09:57 PM
I don't know if it's just because i don't understand "the business", but i don't get why more athletes don't manage their own fb/twitter accounts. All that PC **** is annoying. I know if i was famous i'd always speak for myself and not be constrained by what publicists think.

might not be a great idea for me but i'd manage my own **** too. say what i feel and cuss out everybody i don't like haha..."**** you cromartie your ignorant bag of dicks..imma truck you this weekend"....would probably be what i'd say or something

FUNBUNCHER
11-26-2011, 01:01 AM
You can't be in a 'mellow zone' and play DT in the NFL.
It's probably the one position besides LBer or safety (once they've diagnosed the play and are going in for a hit) that allows you to use anger and rage as a huge emotional motivator.

Suh goes over the line in trying too hard to be intimidating rather than just playing at a high intensity level. A 6'4, 315# defensive tackle shouldn't have to try to be intimidating. Your play alone, beating blockers, blowing up RBs and chasing down QBs, should be your calling card.

And good luck trying to intimidate another NFL lineman. At best, all Ndamukong will ever do to an OT or OG is make them anxious about how to block you but I wouldn't call that 'fear'.
Maybe you can intimidate a RB or QB, but for that to happen Suh has to be making more plays and getting hits on those guys, not scrapping with other lineman.

IMO at some point SUh became too image conscious instead of just being the humble force of nature he was at Nebraska. Why was Suh a 'scary player' in college?? Because he was unstoppable. He just kept coming at you with that zombie like motor and single-handedly blew up opposing blocking schemes mostly meant to stop him.

Suh can't expect to dominate like he did in college but he should continue to make plays with his skillset and intensity.
Any player who spends too much time deliberately focusing on intimidating other NFL players is playing a fool's game.

I think Suh is comparing himself to someone like Reggie White who did have a noticeable physical advantage over NFL lineman and could toss pro bowl OTs to the ground with his straight arm club move.
Suh is a powerful athletic guy, but he's not going to out physical guys like Joe Thomas or Jake Long because the separation between them athletically is less.
Worrying about image means a player isn't making plays.

WMD
11-26-2011, 01:32 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/jets_slauson_suh_is_out_of_control_hZS50vtS1Ti4VvU Ghd44pN#ixzz1elWAY8fX

Suh wasn't considered a head case by NFL scouts after a celebrated career at Nebraska that didn't include any on-field incidents, but Slauson said Suh was a different player in practice while in college.

Slauson said there were at least two ugly incidents involving Suh and other players during practice at Nebraska that Slauson witnessed but that went unreported.

Slauson said "I prefer not to say" when asked if those two practice incidents involved Suh stomping on teammates' limbs or similar cheap shots.

But as a result of those acts and Suh's generally unpredictable temper, Slauson said Suh wasn't popular at all with his college teammates.

"He was well-respected for his ability, but everybody kind of knew who he was," Slauson said. "He wasn't well-liked."

Bosanac01
11-26-2011, 01:50 AM
Suh deserves a suspension and a fine. He's a punk.

dannyz
11-26-2011, 01:52 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/jets_slauson_suh_is_out_of_control_hZS50vtS1Ti4VvU Ghd44pN#ixzz1elWAY8fX

I think I read somewhere he broke some body part of a Walk-on, I not to sure but he never did any of this in Games while at Nebraska I don't know why he is doing it now.

TitanHope
11-26-2011, 10:39 AM
He's either got a maturity or ego problem. You can tell he's an intelligent guy, so when he goes off afterwards and spews BS to try to rationalize his actions instead of being apologetic, he either feels that he doesn't need to apologize or doesn't even have to. Maybe a little bit of both. Dude just seems proud.

Oh, and I think I have that "psychotic" thing...

Rabscuttle
11-26-2011, 10:59 AM
This isn't the first time his anger has hurt the team this year. In the Niner-Lions game he was trapped by Delanie Walker on a long Gore run to the goalline. Pretty humiliating for someone that's told he's so awesome to get sealed by a basketball type pick from an undersized tightend. On the next play instead of attempting to stop Gore, Suh was a lot more interested in mixing it up with the O-line and contributed nothing to keeping Gore from scoring. He did succeed in ripping off Anthony Davis' helmet.

He gets embarrassed easily and acts out like a child. He needs to grow up and learn to deal with his anger or teams are going use this against him.

The ridiculous lie to cover his ass is something else children do before they grow up.

Saints-Tigers
11-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Zomg, he's not on my team, and wasn't a perfect gentlemenly ass kisser to other teams, so I'm gonna whine about it for weeks!

BRAVEHEART
11-26-2011, 12:02 PM
Zomg, he's not on my team, and wasn't a perfect gentlemenly ass kisser to other teams, so I'm gonna whine about it for weeks!

you don't understand....helmets have come off.

Bulldogs
11-26-2011, 12:09 PM
Zomg, he's not on my team, and wasn't a perfect gentlemenly ass kisser to other teams, so I'm gonna whine about it for weeks!

Totally bro! You have it figured out! He's not liked because he's not super nice to other teams! Once again you prove you are one of the most worthless posters on this board. I'm personally a fan of heels in sports, but even I'm not going to sit here and deny Suh is a dirty player. He would have also been considered dirty twenty years ago. Now he needs to come out and embrace his role.

FUNBUNCHER
11-26-2011, 12:33 PM
There's a lot of phoney outrage being directed towards Suh IMO.
WHo cares if his apology wasn't sincere or honest?? Even if he had said EXACTLY what some posters wanted to hear, I bet these same people would still accuse Suh of bull ********.

Why does SUh have to 'embrace' anything?? This comment makes no sense.
You want to label the guy, he refuses to be labeled. Who cares??

Guys who consistently play outside the rules get fined and/or suspended. This will all be straightened out on its own, but the mock disgust by fans is so funny.
If Suh was deliberately hurting guys maybe I could get the heat directed at him, but he hasn't crossed that line.

And it's ironic how fans of teams the Lions have beaten or NFCN rivals are the ones most offended by Suh's antics.

I'd wager just about every NFL team has at least one player who's game has some dirt in it.
If your team doesn't have more than a few players with a 'thug mentality' when the ball is snapped, don't expect to win big in the NFL.

WCH
11-26-2011, 04:28 PM
By handled, you mean held right?


No call, no foul.

Suh may have very realistically cost his team a shot at the playoffs this season. That's stupid. I don't care if he's dirty or not -- I was raised on the Bad Boy Pistons. Bill Laimbeer, Zeke, Rodman, and the rest of those guys...I won't even get into the "unsportsmanlike conduct" that we used to get into on the playground. I really don't care if he's dirty. But Suh screwed his own team over because he couldn't handle his temper. He's probably getting suspended, that play certainly shifted momentum into the Packers favor, and they're probably going to miss the playoffs as a result of the whole thing.

BRILLIANT! Lets defend that. That's gritty, hard-nosed football!!!!!

Or it's just stupid.

Saints-Tigers
11-26-2011, 04:59 PM
Totally bro! You have it figured out! He's not liked because he's not super nice to other teams! Once again you prove you are one of the most worthless posters on this board. I'm personally a fan of heels in sports, but even I'm not going to sit here and deny Suh is a dirty player. He would have also been considered dirty twenty years ago. Now he needs to come out and embrace his role.


He is a dirty player, but no one here would cry about it if he were on their team. It always seems way more "classless" when he's on a different team.

I'm sorry that I'm not trying to make a big stink over what guys say or do, when everyone here logs into an internet forum so they can judge and name call every player that annoys them even a little bit, and calls other people classless, or douchebags, or whatever.

It's just not worth crying over, he's rough, and it should be handled by other players being rough back, but it seems like all fans and other players(falcons) wanna do is whine about it.

I honestly think Suh plays dumb and goes home and laughs about how he handled it to the media, because they never truly get on his case like James Harrison for instance, because he isn't a big dumb oaf.

I'll continue to be useless to the forum, if being useless means I don't come into threads like this to follow the pack of whiners crying about grown men playing dirty or roughing each other up.

Edit: Funbuncher nailed it really.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
11-26-2011, 05:06 PM
Besides the stomping, has anyone else noticed that Suh almost intentionally goes for peoples heads? I've seen multiple times where he rips off a helmet, or grabs by a helmet, in this case after the play he was shoving the guy down by the helmet... I just think that with the new rules in place which place a premium on player safety that the league should punish him for violently attacking the head on multiple occasions since that is the one area that they have focused on.

I don't think it is fair to punish Suh for his hits to the head. What Dunta Robinson's deliberate helmet to helmet hits are way worse and he has only received fines. Suh is such a big name player he gets rained on a lot harder. I don't encourage what he is doing but as someone who hates everything offense gets away with(stiff arms to the face) it does not really bother me. He plays to hurt the quarterback, it is no secret.

Bosanac01
11-26-2011, 05:28 PM
I wouldn't compare Dunta Robinson with Suh. It's completely different.

BloodBrother
11-27-2011, 10:12 AM
Schefter reporting that Suh will likely be suspended for at least 2 games, perhaps more. He'll also be required to take anger management classes

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/10/1002_power100/image/02_roger_goodell.jpg

Iron fisted ginger throwing down the hammer

FUNBUNCHER
11-27-2011, 12:06 PM
Was Haynesworth suspended games when he cleated up Gurode's grill?

BloodBrother
11-27-2011, 12:06 PM
Yeah, 5 games

bearfan
11-28-2011, 02:06 AM
I don't think it is fair to punish Suh for his hits to the head. What Dunta Robinson's deliberate helmet to helmet hits are way worse and he has only received fines. Suh is such a big name player he gets rained on a lot harder. I don't encourage what he is doing but as someone who hates everything offense gets away with(stiff arms to the face) it does not really bother me. He plays to hurt the quarterback, it is no secret.

I never compared him to Robinson, but I do believe he needs to be at least flagged for it. He gets away with it so much it is unbelievable. I just hate seeing guys have their helmet ripped off of their head and there being no penalty (flag or fine) at all. I agree that they shouldn't fine him, but I would take it into consideration on this fine and point it out to him. I'm ok with physicality, but that to me goes a little too far. It is something he is not supposed to do, that can cause injury to the neck, and he gets away with too much.

noondog
11-28-2011, 08:29 AM
I love me some Suh, but his general attitude and temper this year have obviously been out of control. I think this has much to do with a sense of entitlement to acting however he deems necessary without repurcussion following his succes last year and the constant praise for character as much as talent entering the draft prior to that.

The suspension is obviously warranted, I just hope he takes it for what it is and learns from it. Find the line and walk it, don't cross it. If he can do that (which I believe he will), he will round back into his all-pro form. This is a very curious form of sophomore slump imho.

PACKmanN
11-28-2011, 09:18 AM
Zomg, he's not on my team, and wasn't a perfect gentlemenly ass kisser to other teams, so I'm gonna whine about it for weeks!

If he injuries Bress because he hit him in a matter that isn't related to the rules of football, I bet you will change your opinion of him as quick as you're defending him.

Last time i checked, the type of things he does on the field isn't taught by coaches. It isn't how you tackle, how to hit someone, or play the game.

Jvig43
11-28-2011, 10:24 AM
Since when did a discussion about a player being dirty = whether or not you want him on your team anyway?

Brodeur
11-28-2011, 11:26 AM
If he injuries Bress because he hit him in a matter that isn't related to the rules of football, I bet you will change your opinion of him as quick as you're defending him.


Suh has not injured a single person in his career.

Bosanac01
11-28-2011, 11:30 AM
Suh has not injured a single person in his career.

That's not true, he hurt me with his actions.

PACKmanN
11-28-2011, 01:50 PM
Suh has not injured a single person in his career.

it's not like he's been like this his entire career.

Jvig43
11-28-2011, 02:04 PM
I just want to get some food for thought out there with this post, and it's something that has certainly been bugging me. James Harrison has been the poster child for the new NFL rules about how to tackle, and from what Ive seen the hits he's been fined for have been largely debatable at best. Some may feel otherwise but I think Harrison was fined pretty unfairly for most of his hits last year, and it was happening every game. I also feel as if his hits weren't anywhere close to being as dirty as some of the things weve seen from Suh, mostly they just were violating the new rules about helmet to helmet or shoulder to helmet contact. Suh is intentionally ripping people's helmets off, shoving line men's head into the ground. I guess what I'm trying to say here is Harrison was uncontested last year as the dirtiest player in the NFL, and I just feel as though Suh's incidents have been much further over the line when compared to Harrisons, yet the front office doesn't seem (to me anyway) to be coming down as hard on him. Maybe it's because Harrison is an idiot and doesn't know when to shut his mouth and Suh is trying to play it off like he has no clue what people are seeing. I think what weve seen from Suh is far and away worse than anything weve seen out of Harrison.

Raiderz4Life
11-28-2011, 02:34 PM
You're pretty right, Harrison's just a dumbass that struck the wrong chords with Goodell.

Borat
11-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Jim Harbaugh's rough handshake has infected Suh's soul and caused him to become a dirty player. Not really Suh's fault.

FlyingElvis
11-28-2011, 03:43 PM
I don't really have the time or inclination to read this whole thread.


Are there people trying to defend Suh as "not dirty" still? Cuz that'd be some funny **** right thur.


[obligatory comment]Would still be more than happy to have his dirty, mean, head twistin' & arm stomping play on my favorite team.[/obligatory comment]

Prowler
11-28-2011, 03:47 PM
its more about fighting against some drama queens notions that Suh body slammed that poor little green bay guard and then stabbed him on the ground repeatedly.

FlyingElvis
11-28-2011, 03:58 PM
its more about fighting against some drama queens notions that Suh body slammed that poor little green bay guard and then stabbed him on the ground repeatedly.

Ok, carry on then. lol

I Smoke Trees
11-28-2011, 05:11 PM
So Suh apologizes to Goodell but not Evan Dietrich-Smith? That's like apologizing to the teacher instead of the kid you punched in the face. Back to Kindergarten for Suh.

PACKmanN
11-29-2011, 09:20 AM
so we should just start throwing out ridiculous hypotheticals that have no actual basis in reality? cool.

My point is simple. What he does at times isn't part of football. He wasn't like this his ENTIRE career, which includes college(that I am aware of.)

Those that defend him haven't made a actual argument other than making a joke out of it, or claiming that "this is what football is all about."

Jvig43
11-29-2011, 10:09 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82494116/article/suh-suspended-for-two-games-for-thanksgiving-day-stomp?module=HP11_headline_stack

Suspended two games.

Halsey
11-29-2011, 12:28 PM
One thing I notice is that all the players I see Suh take cheap shots against have something in common.

Evan Dietrich-Smith
Andy Dalton
Jay Cutler
Jake Delhomme
Matt Ryan

There are probably others I'm not listing.

CJSchneider
11-29-2011, 12:32 PM
One thing I notice is that all the players I see Suh take cheap shots against have something in common.

Evan Dietrich-Smith
Andy Dalton
Jay Cutler
Jake Delhomme
Matt Ryan

There are probably others I'm not listing.

Dietrich-Smith is not a QB ;)

SFbear
11-29-2011, 01:06 PM
This. Is. Awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvM3uNCvOgA&feature=youtu.be

I Smoke Trees
11-29-2011, 05:17 PM
... seriously? you posted a ridiculous what-if about him causing a serious injury to a player. someone else mentioned he's never injured anyone. none of this is remotely responsive (at best) and is generally completely immaterial.

LOL wut? Nice english bro.

MetSox17
11-29-2011, 05:30 PM
Dietrich-Smith is not a QB ;)

I'm pretty sure he's making veiled claims of racism.

Brodeur
11-29-2011, 05:48 PM
One thing I notice is that all the players I see Suh take cheap shots against have something in common.

Evan Dietrich-Smith
Andy Dalton
Jay Cutler
Jake Delhomme
Matt Ryan

There are probably others I'm not listing.

He took a cheap shot on Cutler? What am I missing?

phlysac
11-29-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm pretty sure he's making veiled claims of racism.

He got into with Anthony Davis as well. He's equal opportunity.

CJSchneider
11-29-2011, 06:11 PM
I'm pretty sure he's making veiled claims of racism.

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/4/128755769272206580.jpg

jackalope
11-29-2011, 06:29 PM
One thing I notice is that all the players I see Suh take cheap shots against have something in common.

Evan Dietrich-Smith
Andy Dalton
Jay Cutler
Jake Delhomme
Matt Ryan

There are probably others I'm not listing.

Is this like J-Mike's claim that Ted Thompson is an offensive line racist?

FUNBUNCHER
12-01-2011, 08:59 AM
FvM3uNCvOgA

For some of you this clip is live action video!lol

ImBrotherCain
12-01-2011, 09:02 AM
W T F ....

descendency
12-01-2011, 09:35 AM
Suh is dirty. Did you see what he did against Texas? He basically raped the entire OL.

wogitalia
12-01-2011, 09:57 AM
FvM3uNCvOgA

For some of you this clip is live action video!lol

That was amazing. Mad respect.

Brodeur
12-01-2011, 10:02 AM
FvM3uNCvOgA

For some of you this clip is live action video!lol

That was the greatest thing I have ever seen.

noondog
12-01-2011, 10:06 AM
FvM3uNCvOgA

For some of you this clip is live action video!lol

Love it! Lolzzzzzzz

vidae
12-01-2011, 10:08 AM
I like the part where Suh HADOUKENS Cutler.

eeth
12-02-2011, 07:15 AM
Mark Schlereth on ESPN called Suh "Nstompokung Suhpid." I thought it was funny.

yodabear
12-02-2011, 01:08 PM
Doesn't seem like its just Packer fans bitching about this? It seriously is. I mean WTF.

Saints-Tigers
12-02-2011, 01:15 PM
ESPN took the part where he ate body parts off the air. I swear to god, they don't want anyone to know about the Packer injuries!!!

Brothgar
12-02-2011, 02:23 PM
Doesn't seem like its just Packer fans bitching about this? It seriously is. I mean WTF.

BUT Yoda! Don't you know we are the Green Bay Packers teh greatest team EVERZZZ!!!. hOW dare SUHPID dare hurt one of OUR PLAYERS! Does he not know that Aaron Rogers iz our quarrterbaks? Greatest of teh quarterbackers EVERZ! HE SHOULD BE SUSPENDED FOR TEH CHEEZBURGERR! I MEAN LIFE! So durty I mean really.

ImBrotherCain
12-02-2011, 02:26 PM
Any respect I had for you is now lost after that abortion of a post.

BRAVEHEART
12-02-2011, 03:08 PM
I wanna change my name to Suhdouken!!!

Nikolas
12-02-2011, 06:37 PM
Suh's appeal has been denied, so 2 game suspension it is!

niel89
12-02-2011, 07:11 PM
I'm glad the appeal didn't get it reduced.

J-Mike88
12-02-2011, 07:42 PM
Any respect I had for you is now lost after that abortion of a post.
Same here...

I would have added a game to the suspension for him appealing/protesting.
Just so that he got the message. He still thinks he's done nothing wrong other than letting his team down. That's hilarious really.

Brodeur
12-02-2011, 07:50 PM
BUT Yoda! Don't you know we are the Green Bay Packers teh greatest team EVERZZZ!!!. hOW dare SUHPID dare hurt one of OUR PLAYERS! Does he not know that Aaron Rogers iz our quarrterbaks? Greatest of teh quarterbackers EVERZ! HE SHOULD BE SUSPENDED FOR TEH CHEEZBURGERR! I MEAN LIFE! So durty I mean really.

http://www.oocities.org/wrestlingscout/Legends/Pictures/storm.jpg

Scotty D
12-02-2011, 09:17 PM
Now Fairley is going to play more and he will probably be dirtier than Suh. Suck it Goodell.

yodabear
12-02-2011, 09:46 PM
I just saying I think a suspension, especially a multi-game suspension is too severe. I woulda hit him with a 6-figure fine. A suspension was excessive. Pansy league.

AlexDown
12-03-2011, 07:54 AM
I just saying I think a suspension, especially a multi-game suspension is too severe. I woulda hit him with a 6-figure fine. A suspension was excessive. Pansy league.

I disagree. He was intentionally trying to injure another player. Not pansy league.

CJSchneider
12-03-2011, 08:11 AM
I just saying I think a suspension, especially a multi-game suspension is too severe. I woulda hit him with a 6-figure fine. A suspension was excessive. Pansy league.

Well, won't he lose those two game checks as well if he is suspended?

MassNole
12-03-2011, 08:16 AM
I just saying I think a suspension, especially a multi-game suspension is too severe. I woulda hit him with a 6-figure fine. A suspension was excessive. Pansy league.
Best way to handle him would be for refs to turn a blind eye for any cheap shot opponents want to take at him. He as much as complains, throw a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct.

FUNBUNCHER
12-03-2011, 08:20 AM
Now Fairley is going to play more and he will probably be dirtier than Suh. Suck it Goodell.

I love Nick, but he has more of that 'dirty player' gene than Suh IMO. And at least Fairley is smart about it. He won't keep something going after the whistle.
He takes a cheap shot and keeps it moving.

Saints-Tigers
12-03-2011, 01:26 PM
I disagree. He was intentionally trying to injure another player. Not pansy league.

Uh, if he wanted to injure someone, they'd be injured.

Prowler
12-03-2011, 01:44 PM
surprised nobody posted it yet but,

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7310399/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-unharmed-crashing-car-tree

Police say Suh was not impaired and was cooperative with officers following the accident at about 1:15 a.m. Saturday. Suh lost control of the 1970 Chevrolet Coupe he was driving, which then hit a curb, light pole, drinking fountain and tree. His vehicle was towed from the scene.

Suh had two passengers in the vehicle. They were not injured.

Get out of the news Suh!

Raiderz4Life
12-03-2011, 02:40 PM
I just read that on espn too...man Suh's on a real bad streak right now.

FlyingElvis
12-05-2011, 02:10 PM
That poor Chevelle. At least he has the loot to restore it. Maybe this time he won't put those ridiculous oversized tires on a car with that much horsepower and that little technology.

CJSchneider
12-05-2011, 02:54 PM
Police say Suh was not impaired and was cooperative with officers following the accident at about 1:15 a.m. Saturday. Suh lost control of the 1970 Chevrolet Coupe he was driving, which then hit a curb, light pole, drinking fountain and tree. His vehicle was towed from the scene.

Suh had two passengers in the vehicle. They were not injured.

Suh has since stated that the light pole and drinking were holding him on the prior play and the tree was verbally taunting him prior to the initial accident with phrases such as "Get the tow truck."

yodabear
12-05-2011, 04:06 PM
Well, won't he lose those two game checks as well if he is suspended?

Yes he will but the 6 figure fine would be more than the game checks. I think he lost like 80,000 I think. But still, maybe a game, maybe, but two games is a bit stiff.

I disagree. He was intentionally trying to injure another player. Not pansy league.

He should stomped on his head like Haynesworth then.

Basileus777
12-05-2011, 06:59 PM
Two of the people who were passengers in the car have since come forward with information that disputes Suh’s story and the amended police report also quotes a third passenger who said she, too, was injured in the crash.
“When the light turned green, he floored it,” one of the passengers told KGW. “I just remember going so fast and it was violent and just getting thrown around like rag dolls.”
The woman said she was injured in the crash and on Monday, she had a cut upper eyebrow, a black eye and a busted lip, which she said had required stitches. A second passenger backed up her claims but did not want to speak on camera.
The police report first obtained by KGW said that two people were hurt in the crash and required hospitalization. The second injured person was quoted in the police report as saying, "He [Suh] was driving unsafe. It was just clear to me that we were going too fast."
Suh himself was among those who called 9-1-1 to report the crash. KGW obtained a copy of that 9-1-1 call. When asked “Are you sure you don’t need an ambulance?” Suh replied, “Yes, everyone is fine.”
Yet the female passenger told KGW she did ask Suh to call an ambulance. She said he refused and told her she was fine. She eventually walked down the street and had her husband pick her up and take her to Oregon Health and Science University for treatment.
The woman said nearly 50 people swarmed Suh’s car after the crash and started snapping photos and she felt he was more worried about his image than her injuries.
A witness named Allan who called 9-1-1 to report the crash also spoke to KGW Monday. He said the driver “floored it” when a stoplight turned green at 3rd and Burnside. He said it looked like the driver was trying to “show off” with screeching tires.
He also told KGW there were no cars in front of Suh’s vehicle and he did not see a taxicab, either. He said he continued to watch as the vintage car hit a light pole, a fountain and then finally crashed into a tree.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Passengers-say-Suh-lied-about-Portland-crash-135062198.html

Oh, Suh. If this is to be believed, his reckless driving resulted in people getting hurt and afterwards he was more worried about his image than the injuries he caused.

Bulldogs
12-05-2011, 07:10 PM
http://www.kgw.com/news/Passengers-say-Suh-lied-about-Portland-crash-135062198.html

Oh, Suh. If this is to be believed, his reckless driving resulted in people getting hurt and afterwards he was more worried about his image than the injuries he caused.

At this point I think the media is out to get him. Not saying he hasn't done bad stuff, look back a couple pages where I gave my thoughts on him, but everything he does now will be blown out of proportion.

Basileus777
12-05-2011, 07:13 PM
At this point I think the media is out to get him. Not saying he hasn't done bad stuff, look back a couple pages where I gave my thoughts on him, but everything he does now will be blown out of proportion.

The media is forcing a passenger involved in the crash and some witnesses to cast Suh in a negative light?

wogitalia
12-05-2011, 08:52 PM
Is it bad that I read that article and then googled KGW thinking it was some kind of joke website because it just sounded like something the Onion would do... The whole "the car was violent and throwing us around like rag dolls" line basically sounded like someone pulling the piss about what Suh does to QBs!

FlyingElvis
12-06-2011, 10:26 AM
Was there really any question that he was driving like a dumbass? Anyone with a little knowledge about those high HP & torque beasts should know how often they end up smashed within .1 miles of a stop light. The old muscle with no idiot proofing (DSC / TCS / ABS, etc) is even worse, especially with giant wheels that aren't designed to handle the load.

This kid is looking more and more like a typical immature jackhole. He's clearly a smart guy who can't make a sound decision or keep his emotions in check.

FlyingElvis
12-06-2011, 10:35 AM
Then again, maybe the woman with the blackeye received it from the husband she called to pick her up.

Prowler
12-06-2011, 10:42 AM
I can see Suh not wanting details to get leaked to the point of him not fully disclosing injuries. What I don't understand is how he thought that kicking his passengers to the curb and having them fend for themselves for injuries that he caused was supposed to help keep the situation quiet. At least pay for the medical bills if you are going to keep things on the down-low.

Its a legal grey area so I'm pretty sure nothing will come of this legally, but consider it a mental strike where Goodell is concerned. No leniency of any kind from now on. If he acts up again, then he'll have to sit out.

FlyingElvis
12-06-2011, 11:02 AM
I can see Suh not wanting details to get leaked to the point of him not fully disclosing injuries. What I don't understand is how he thought that kicking his passengers to the curb and having them fend for themselves for injuries that he caused was supposed to help keep the situation quiet. At least pay for the medical bills if you are going to keep things on the down-low.

Its a legal grey area so I'm pretty sure nothing will come of this legally, but consider it a mental strike where Goodell is concerned. No leniency of any kind from now on. If he acts up again, then he'll have to sit out.

Right? Rather than pay to shut 'em up he does the exact opposite. It sounds fishy that an injured woman wanders down the road for hubby to pick up and then goes to the hospital, rather than dealing with the police that showed up at the scene. This will turn into a giant mess of "he said, she said" complete with a money grab.

bigbluedefense
12-06-2011, 11:17 AM
All I know is, if I was the husband, her ass would be walking to the hospital her damn self.

Rabscuttle
12-06-2011, 05:55 PM
At least he's consistent in his approach to accepting responsibility for his actions...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7322580/women-ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-car-say-hid-their-injuries

So he's gone from dodging "stray cats" to taxis that are only visible to him. Vegas should take odds on the next obstacle he tries to avoid. I'll go with gap responsibilites.

GaMeTiMe
12-07-2011, 02:02 AM
Honest question, and we can ask it at this point, how would ANY signs of this behavior coming into the league have effected his draft stock? It's getting more serious with him by the week, and for all we know this is a huge bust story in the making, one having nothing to do with talent. Those kinds of red flags would've hurt him, at least moved McCoy ahead on plenty of team's boards. There was essentially nothing wrong with Suh as a prospect.