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Giantsfan1080
11-29-2011, 07:35 AM
ESPN reporting that Del Rio was let go this morning.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7293624/jacksonville-jaguars-fire-longtime-coach-jack-del-rio-sources-say

murdamal86
11-29-2011, 07:35 AM
yeppers!!!!!


Hopefully we don't hire an NFL reject as our new HC

JBCX
11-29-2011, 07:42 AM
Could be an opening for Andy Reid...

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 07:52 AM
Reid or another veteran coach could get expensive. I think the Jags would be more likely to go for a coordinator. Mike Zimmer or Rob Ryan would be interesting fits. Though they may look to go for a more offensive minded coach to try and develop Gabbert. Key word being "try"....

murdamal86
11-29-2011, 08:14 AM
I wonder if Del Rio will get a call from UCLA, Illinois, or Penn State since I KNOW he's not getting another HC job in the NFL

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 08:18 AM
UCLA makes a lot of sense. Not too long ago, there were rumors floating around Jacksonville that Del Rio would quit the Jaguars and take the USC job. could be interesting.

I thought for a while a guy they might go after is Les Miles. I have heard a lot of people talk about how people see him as a college guy who can make it in the pros. However, with this move being made so early, I don't think Jacksonville can wait until after the National Championship to make a hire.

diabsoule
11-29-2011, 08:21 AM
They better bring in some solid competition for Gabbert. He's ******* awful so they need a realistic back-up plan if he continues to suck more than most porn stars.

If they want an offensive-minded coach they could look at Pete Carmichael of the Saints, Joe Philbin of the Packers, or if they wanted to go defense I'd look at Mike Zimmer or Winston Moss.

murdamal86
11-29-2011, 08:28 AM
Yep I remember him also talking to LSU in 05 after Saban left but as far as his replacement, we REALLY need somebody who'll ignite the offense. We are pathetic on that side of the ball

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 08:32 AM
Yep I remember him also talking to LSU in 05 after Saban left but as far as his replacement, we REALLY need somebody who'll ignite the offense. We are pathetic on that side of the ball

That will be hard to do with Gabbert at QB. I'm sorry, but the guy looks hopeless. This isn't just a case of him making a lot of rookie mistakes, he's at a Jimmy Clausen level of not even looking like he belongs on the field.

I wouldn't want to the the new head coach there and get saddled with him.

Halsey
11-29-2011, 08:40 AM
What we need are more posts where someone explains to us that Blaine Gabbert is horrible.

"Blaine Gabbert is horrible! It's not just that he's a rookie! He's horrible! He's a bust! blah blah blah!"

We need this to be posted 20 times in every thread connected to the Jaguars. Can't get enough of reading that. Especially when it comes from some of the same people who will tell you to wait 7 years before praising a young QB who plays well.

Raiderz4Life
11-29-2011, 08:46 AM
They better bring in some solid competition for Gabbert. He's ******* awful so they need a realistic back-up plan if he continues to suck more than most porn stars.

If they want an offensive-minded coach they could look at Pete Carmichael of the Saints, Joe Philbin of the Packers, or if they wanted to go defense I'd look at Mike Zimmer or Winston Moss.

Ppfftt most porn stars only suck for like 10 minutes...gabbert sucks a whole 60 minutes

Unbiased
11-29-2011, 09:01 AM
Koetter needs to go too.

TheMorningZoo
11-29-2011, 09:10 AM
I would welcome him in San Diego to be a DC/LB coach.

General Zod
11-29-2011, 09:10 AM
This one isnt a shocker. I dont see the point of firing mid season but oh well. Im wondering how much input he had on wanting to draft Gabbert.

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 09:14 AM
This one isnt a shocker. I dont see the point of firing mid season but oh well. Im wondering how much input he had on wanting to draft Gabbert.

He was fired midseason because he has already given up. Pete Prisco (from Jacksonville) just said that he has been coming to the stadium later and later every day and just isn't working hard at all.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 09:19 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/29/gabbert-could-get-lost-in-shuffle-with-jaguars-changes/

Like I said, as a new coach, I would not want to be saddled with Gabbert.

Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks. Gabbert sucks.

There's 20 for Halsey.

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 09:22 AM
I wonder what Gabbert would fetch in a trade. At least a few other teams saw him as a first round talent so I'm sure there would be interest. Maybe if the Redskins miss out on one of the top guys in the draft they might send a 2nd round pick to Jacksonville for Gabbert?

SolidGold
11-29-2011, 09:26 AM
What a mess in Jacksonville. Its a shame because they have a quality defense going to waste. Del Rio should have been canned awhile ago.

tjsunstein
11-29-2011, 09:27 AM
What we need are more posts where someone explains to us that Blaine Gabbert is horrible.

"Blaine Gabbert is horrible! It's not just that he's a rookie! He's horrible! He's a bust! blah blah blah!"

We need this to be posted 20 times in every thread connected to the Jaguars. Can't get enough of reading that. Especially when it comes from some of the same people who will tell you to wait 7 years before praising a young QB who plays well.
No way, SWDC going overboard with something to the point where it's not even enjoyable? That's unheard of. This board has lost it.

killxswitch
11-29-2011, 09:33 AM
I wonder what Gabbert would fetch in a trade. At least a few other teams saw him as a first round talent so I'm sure there would be interest. Maybe if the Redskins miss out on one of the top guys in the draft they might send a 2nd round pick to Jacksonville for Gabbert?

Gabbert for Tebow, straight up. Jacksonville will sell tickets with Tebow returning to Florida, and Denver can get on with trying to develop a real QB.

Though Gabbert does suck pretty badly.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 09:38 AM
They won't trade him. I'd bet that the next coach comes in talking up Gabbert and supporting him fully. Somewhat like what Lovie Smith did with Rex Grossman. He had no connection to Grossman but swore up and down that he was the starter. It almost worked to win a Superbowl.....but Gabbert is basically just "Bad Rex" all of the time, minus the "unleash the dragon" moments.

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 09:53 AM
Mort is reporting that Gene Smith has been extended for another three years. That might make it less likely that a legitimate challenge to Gabbert will be brought in.

killxswitch
11-29-2011, 09:55 AM
Mort is reporting that Gene Smith has been extended for another three years. That might make it less likely that a legitimate challenge to Gabbert will be brought in.

So was Smith holding out on his own extension until Del Rio was fired? Timing is awfully coincidental.

bucfan12
11-29-2011, 09:57 AM
Why must Keoter go? I thought he's been a solid playcaller for them?

Anyways, I think Zimmer would be the perfect candidate for the Job in Jaxsonville.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 09:57 AM
Mort is reporting that Gene Smith has been extended for another three years. That might make it less likely that a legitimate challenge to Gabbert will be brought in.

Yeah, it will be a prerequisite of any new coach to accept Gabbert then. Maybe they should go after Andy Reid. He made Kevin Kolb and AJ Feely passable enough to scam decent draft picks out of teams for them....and he made Vick look good as a passer for one season. He might be the only guy on the planet that could make Gabbert look not-terrible.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 10:08 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/29/report-jags-are-being-sold-to-shahid-khan/

The team is also being sold.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Weaver advised team employees on Tuesday that the franchise is in the process of being sold.

Peter King of SI.com reports that the team is being purchased by Shahid Khan, who tried unsuccessfully to purchase the Rams after the death of Georgia Frontiere.

Perhaps the team is not long for Jacksonville?

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 10:09 AM
Why must Keoter go? I thought he's been a solid playcaller for them?

Anyways, I think Zimmer would be the perfect candidate for the Job in Jaxsonville.

Dirk Koetter cam to the team in 2007. Here are the results in terms of total offense, passing, and rushing

2006: 10th, 24th, 3rd
2007: 7th, 17th, 2nd
2008: 20th, 15th, 18th
2009: 18th, 19th, 10th
2010: 15th, 27th, 3rd
2011: 32nd, 32nd, 12th

He took over a top-ten offense. After having one good season, he has led a average to below average offense, hitting rock bottom this year. I don't care what kind of talent or lack of talent you may have. With those kind of results, you don't deserve to stay.

bucfan12
11-29-2011, 10:11 AM
Dirk Koetter cam to the team in 2007. Here are the results in terms of total offense, passing, and rushing

2006: 10th, 24th, 3rd
2007: 7th, 17th, 2nd
2008: 20th, 15th, 18th
2009: 18th, 19th, 10th
2010: 15th, 27th, 3rd
2011: 32nd, 32nd, 12th

He took over a top-ten offense. After having one good season, he has led a average to below average offense, hitting rock bottom this year. I don't care what kind of talent or lack of talent you may have. With those kind of results, you don't deserve to stay.

Understandable. However, they have put much talent at WR in that offense. Garrard was never a guy to set the world on fire passing. This year they have a rookie Qb with no recieving threats.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 10:14 AM
Understandable. However, they have put much talent at WR in that offense. Garrard was never a guy to set the world on fire passing. This year they have a rookie Qb with no recieving threats.

It was a little while ago, but they did spend first round picks on Reggie Williams, Matt Jones and Mercedes Lewis. They've also invested 2nds/3rds in the pass catching position.

And Garrard had that one good year where he was then handed franchise QB type money. He was never that good again.

Could you make a case that he hasn't done a terrible job? Perhaps. But he hasn't been good enough to keep around if a full coaching staff house cleaning is in order.

SolidGold
11-29-2011, 10:38 AM
Gene Smith has been extended for three years. Earlier in the year he declined an extension, sounds like he wanted del rio out of the picture before commiting to the team.

Thank you Jaguars for making today interesting.

killxswitch
11-29-2011, 10:48 AM
Holy ****, the Jags are moving?

DraftSavant
11-29-2011, 10:48 AM
The Jags hoped that continuity would help them through the lockout. All it did was blow up in their faces. What a joke of a season.

Also, Gabbert sucks. He's the same player he was in college, expect he's not facing crap Big-12 defenses.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 10:49 AM
Holy ****, the Jags are moving?

Could be. That's important to note. That's just a feeling I get from there being a new owner with presumably no ties to Jacksonville. (He tried to buy the Rams previously.)

FlyingElvis
11-29-2011, 11:09 AM
Easy choice, though once again the Jags give us a head-scratcher with oddly timed decisions.


Reports on the purchase of the team are unclear on any real details. FedEx v. Shahid Kahn and there's mention that the deal includes a committment to stay in Jacksonville.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:12 AM
Easy choice, though once again the Jags give us a head-scratcher with oddly timed decisions.


Reports on the purchase of the team are unclear on any real details. FedEx v. Shahid Kahn and there's mention that the deal includes a committment to stay in Jacksonville.

Well I can tell you that it won't be FedEX or any corperation. The NFL has shot that down in the past.

And if there's a provision requiring the team to stay in Jacksonville, well that sucks. I'm sure it's a fine a city but they struggle to sell out even with 10000 seats covered. That state has more top college programs than it knows what to do with plus Tampa and Miami.

Another problem for Florida is the fact that so many people move there from elsewhere, bringing their allegiances with them.

I don't know that they need a 3rd NFL team.

killxswitch
11-29-2011, 11:16 AM
Well I can tell you that it won't be FedEX or any corperation. The NFL has shot that down in the past.

And if there's a provision requiring the team to stay in Jacksonville, well that sucks. I'm sure it's a fine a city but they struggle to sell out even with 10000 seats covered. That state has more top college programs than it knows what to do with plus Tampa and Miami.

Another problem for Florida is the fact that so many people move there from elsewhere, bringing their allegiances with them.

I don't know that they need a 3rd NFL team.

They don't. They're more football saturated than Texas but without the state pride.

murdamal86
11-29-2011, 11:17 AM
We're as good as cooked as far as keeping the team in Jax

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:22 AM
Obviously, there are the LA's, Torontos and....Londons.....of the world, but I don't think any of those places is really a great move for Jacksonville. The league would probably love to get a team in LA, but I don't know that the city would embrace it.

Complex
11-29-2011, 11:25 AM
Jeff Fisher future Jag coach. A rich man Jack Del Rio I guess.

DraftSavant
11-29-2011, 11:26 AM
The two Jax threads should be merged. I don't feel like posting the same **** back and forth. The same conversation is going on in both.

killxswitch
11-29-2011, 11:26 AM
Obviously, there are the LA's, Torontos and....Londons.....of the world, but I don't think any of those places is really a great move for Jacksonville. The league would probably love to get a team in LA, but I don't know that the city would embrace it.

Are you basing that on past LA teams? I think football is more popular now than ever and an entire new set of fans has been born and grown up since there was a team in LA. It definitely doesn't need two teams but I bet there's enough of a potential base there now.

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 11:32 AM
Jeff Fisher future Jag coach. A rich man Jack Del Rio I guess.

Could be. Jay Gruden is also a favorite. Like I said earlier, they need to consider Joe Philbin.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:36 AM
I think they almost have to go for an offensive minded head coach. With Gene Smith staying, Gabbert is going to be forced on whoever the new coach is. Any chance he has of succeeding will be need to brought on by that coach.

boknows34
11-29-2011, 11:36 AM
Extending Gene Smith's contract also buys time for Blaine Gabbert which unfortunately for Jags fans could be a double-edged sword. A new HC will have to accept Gabbert so you can forget about some of the experienced retreads like Fisher who would want to bring in his own guy at QB and have more control over personnel decisions. It will very likely be a young up-and-coming co-ordinator (a Pat Shurmer type from 2011), and therefore on a cheap contract compared to other HCs.

DraftSavant
11-29-2011, 11:37 AM
I think they almost have to go for an offensive minded head coach. With Gene Smith staying, Gabbert is going to be forced on whoever the new coach is. Any chance he has of succeeding will be need to brought on by that coach.

Extending Gene Smith's contract also buys time for Blaine Gabbert which unfortunately for Jags fans could be a double-edged sword. A new HC will have to accept Gabbert so you can forget about some of the experienced retreads like Fisher who would want to bring in his own guy at QB and have more control over personnel decisions. It will very likely be a young up-and-coming co-ordinator (a Pat Shurmer type from 2011), and therefore on a cheap contract compared to other HCs.

Bingo. I'm thinking Jay Gruden already has this **** locked up.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:38 AM
Extending Gene Smith's contract also buys time for Blaine Gabbert which unfortunately for Jags fans could be a double-edged sword. A new HC will have to accept Gabbert so you can forget about some of the experienced retreads like Fisher who would want to bring in his own guy at QB and have more control over personnel decisions. It will very likely be a young up-and-coming co-ordinator (a Pat Shurmer type from 2011), and therefore on a cheap contract compared to other HCs.

Sounds a lot like Jay Gruden then.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:40 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/29/weaver-promises-team-wont-leave-jacksonville/

1. Khan will keep the Jaguars management staff intact. An agreement to sell the team was signed Tuesday morning. Khan has given his word he’ll keep the team in Jacksonville. Nothing is in writing to keep the team in Jacksonville.

A lot of good that's going to do....I give them a year.

Raiderz4Life
11-29-2011, 11:40 AM
Idk...guess I'm indifferent about jax coming to LA...i wouldn't root for them

Da-Phins
11-29-2011, 11:44 AM
Took them long enough to finally do the right thing. And if the Jags were smart they would go ahead and move to LA and redo the whole franchise. No one cares about them while they are in Jax.

Thecollegedropout
11-29-2011, 11:45 AM
If JAX wants Brian Schottenheimer as a head coach, I say let him go!

Schotty can mess up another young QB...

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:47 AM
If JAX wants Brian Schottenheimer as a head coach, I say let him go!

Schotty can mess up another young QB...

Schotty working with Blaine Gabbert would be like stirring **** into a bigger pot of ****.

DraftSavant
11-29-2011, 11:50 AM
They have a lease that's damn near impossible to break. If someone tried to move them, the city would take them to court. Combining legal costs, settlement costs, and relocation fees, you're probably looking at close to $1B just to get the team to move. And that's on top of what you paid to buy them.

Not to mention, the LA group building the stadium wants a significant ownership share.

Do they want them out of Jacksonville anymore than they'd want the Chargers out of SD? Or the Bucs out of Tampa? Not saying you're wrong, but there are other teams that have as bad/worse issues than the Jaguars. They just tend to get the brunt of it because the media hated the Superbowl experience there. That city should have never hosted a Superbowl.

God damn it, somebody merge these threads.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 11:54 AM
Weaver did everything in his power to stake the team in Jacksonville.

Though I still contend that if the league thinks more money can be made elsewhere, they'll find a way to move the team. Exactly where they'd have to move to do that though is a big question. It's hard to develop new fandom anywhere.

DeathbyStat
11-29-2011, 11:59 AM
Sounds reasonable....

SolidGold
11-29-2011, 12:03 PM
FROM PFT:

Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver met with the media on Tuesday to talk about this very Jaguar morning in the NFL.

Weaver confirmed all the major stories from the morning, including the sale of the team to Shahid Khan. A few big takeaways from the presser:

1. Khan will keep the Jaguars management staff intact. An agreement to sell the team was signed Tuesday morning. Khan has given his word he’ll keep the team in Jacksonville. Nothing is in writing to keep the team in Jacksonville.

“There’s not a doubt in my mind this team is going to stay in Jacksonville,” Weaver said. “You have to trust the individual’s integrity. I have no doubt Khan will do what he plans to do.”

2. Khan will buy a house in Jacksonville, but he won’t be ae as “day-to-day” an owner as Weaver. It sounds like Khan won’t live in Jacksonville year round. Khan lives in Illinois. Weaver said he refused calls from California of possible owners interested in moving the team.

3. Roger Goodell heard from Weaver Tuesday morning before any agreement was signed. NFL owners will vote on the sale on December 14 at league meetings, assuming the league’s executive committee votes to do so. The transaction won’t be come official until early January, but it sounds like the sale will easily go through.

4. Jack Del Rio was fired because Weaver had made up his mind and it was “unfair” to leave Del Rio twisting in the wind.

“We deserve better, this community deserves better,” Weaver said. “We’ve been very average the last few years.”

5. Weaver promised interim coach Mel Tucker that he’ll get to interview for the head coaching job after the season, but the organization will conduct an extensive coaching search.

6. Weaver said job candidates will range from coaches with head coaching experience to up and coming coaches. Weaver will be heavily involved in the new coaching search, which seems odd.

UPDATE: Khan released a statement: “I will be fully committed to delivering Jacksonville its first Super Bowl championship.”

SolidGold
11-29-2011, 12:13 PM
I agree with other folks sentiment in this thread that since Gene Smith stayed Gabbert will be the QB. Jax has had 2 head coaches - both defensive minded. In today's NFL with teams flinging the ball all over the field Del Rio's style of offense was not putting up points. The next Jags coach will be an offensive minded guy that will be brought in to help Gabbert develop.

Jay Gruden is going to be a hot commodity (others have mentioned him in this thread). The way he has brought Dalton along is tremendous. That's not to say Gruden wont' stay in Cincinnati.

soybean
11-29-2011, 01:22 PM
I think Head Coach is secondary. They need to find a franchise QB. that's all it ever boils down to. You don't win without a franchise qb.

well... that is... unless you're the San Francisco 49ers.

Del Rio though not a good coach was dealt a pretty ****** hand.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 01:27 PM
I think Head Coach is secondary. They need to find a franchise QB. that's all it ever boils down to. You don't win without a franchise qb.

well... that is... unless you're the San Francisco 49ers.

Del Rio though not a good coach was dealt a pretty ****** hand.

On the other hand, Phillip Rivers is a damn fine QB but he couldn't drag Norv Turner anywhere as a head coach.

Ideally you'd have both (Brady/Belichick, Montana/Walsh) but that is hard to pull off.

I personally think that if your team is in a position to be drafting a franchise QB and the head coach is on the hot seat anyway, I'd fire him. Let a new coach come in who can handpick his own QB. The Jags went with continuity last year hoping it would help with the lockout. It didn't.

Gabbert is going to be force fed to the next head coach, like it or not. The best thing that coach can do is to do the best he can with Gabbert and draft him some weapons at WR.

I have very little faith that Gabbert will ever be anything in this league, but the next coach will be stuck with him.

FlyingElvis
11-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Well I can tell you that it won't be FedEX or any corperation. The NFL has shot that down in the past.

And if there's a provision requiring the team to stay in Jacksonville, well that sucks. I'm sure it's a fine a city but they struggle to sell out even with 10000 seats covered. That state has more top college programs than it knows what to do with plus Tampa and Miami.

Another problem for Florida is the fact that so many people move there from elsewhere, bringing their allegiances with them.

I don't know that they need a 3rd NFL team.

The early morning rumors (and apparently a long(ish) standing rumor) had the CEO of FedEx interested in buying some stake. Irrelevant now, since it's obviously Khan.

Hopefully he's as cool as his mustache.


I do agree on too many teams in FL. Every sport is just jamming treams into that damn state and I can never figure out why.

Ness
11-29-2011, 03:06 PM
Jeff Fisher future Jag coach. A rich man Jack Del Rio I guess.

I don't think he ever liked Jacksonville. Didn't he call it his "home away from home" one time when he was coaching the Titans? I just don't see it happening. It would be like Bill Walsh coaching the L.A. Rams.

Brent
11-29-2011, 03:18 PM
Jay Gruden would be the type of QB-friendly coach a dude like Gabbert needs.

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
I don't think he ever liked Jacksonville. Didn't he call it his "home away from home" one time when he was coaching the Titans? I just don't see it happening. It would be like Bill Walsh coaching the L.A. Rams.

I'm pretty sure he called Jacksonville his "Home away from Home" because the Titans beat them there four out of five times at one point.

TACKLE
11-29-2011, 03:31 PM
Jay Gruden would be the type of QB-friendly coach a dude like Gabbert needs.

or a dude like Matt Barkley....

DraftSavant
11-29-2011, 03:32 PM
or a dude like Matt Barkley....

I've come around on Barkley, but you want me to kill myself, don't you?

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 03:36 PM
I've come around on Barkley, but you want me to kill myself, don't you?

You should be around on Barkley. The thought of a USC QB is a bit scary, but Barkley has far more natural ability (read: arm strength and non-retardedness) than Sanchez or Leinart.

It won't happen though. Your best bet is a offensive head coach who can work with Gabbert like you would a rescued dog whose previous owner had beaten it and draft a top WR who can reel in some of those wild throws.

It's not a good situation, but if you really dig, you can come up with a few long shot positives.

Giantsfan1080
11-29-2011, 04:33 PM
Norv Turner to the Jags to work with Gabbert.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 04:37 PM
Norv Turner to the Jags to work with Gabbert.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I don't know where the new owner will fall on the cheap/spend happy scale, but Turner could possibly be a big coaching free agent. I think a team with Superbowl level talent (Giants) needing a new offensive coordinator (Giants) and plays in big market where sell outs are easy and money is flowing (Giants) will get him.

If the new owner is a little cheapish, they're more likely to go after an offensive coordinator who can be had on the fairly cheap side like Jay Gruden.

jrdrylie
11-29-2011, 04:38 PM
Norv Turner to the Jags to work with Gabbert.

31g0YE61PLQ

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 04:40 PM
Norv as an OC would be a great pick up for most teams. He's the one guy who got something out of Alex Smith before this year. That's a hell of an accomplishment.

He's the OC version of Wade Phillips. Great coordinator, overwhelmed as a HC.

holt_bruce81
11-29-2011, 05:13 PM
So over/under 3 years till the Rams move back to LA and the Khan led Jaguars move here to St. Louis?

Babylon
11-29-2011, 05:20 PM
This one isnt a shocker. I dont see the point of firing mid season but oh well. Im wondering how much input he had on wanting to draft Gabbert.

My guess is he had near zero input on trading up to take Gabbert.

So let me get this straight. They give the GM a 3 year deal for his involvement in all this and Del Rio gets the pink slip. Nice.

DraftSavant
11-29-2011, 05:25 PM
My guess is he had near zero input on trading up to take Gabbert.

So let me get this straight. They give the GM a 3 year deal for his involvement in all this and Del Rio gets the pink slip. Nice.

The GM is basically going to be running **** during the ownership transfer. And Weaver said he was going to be involved in the decision-making process for the team.

Combine that with Khan reportedly not being as day-to-day as Weaver and saying he'll still spend most of his time in Illinois, and you're looking at one of the most powerful execs in the NFL. And I can't explain why.

BeerBaron
11-29-2011, 07:07 PM
The GM is basically going to be running **** during the ownership transfer. And Weaver said he was going to be involved in the decision-making process for the team.

Combine that with Khan reportedly not being as day-to-day as Weaver and saying he'll still spend most of his time in Illinois, and you're looking at one of the most powerful execs in the NFL. And I can't explain why.

Surely it was all of those really great......moves and draft picks.......ehhhhh....

Unbiased
11-29-2011, 07:25 PM
Surely it was all of those really great......moves and draft picks.......ehhhhh....

Gene drafts guys with high ceilings and good character. They needs good coaching to reach their ceilings. We don't have that. That's why guys like Eugene Monroe and Derek Cox just started playing great this year. Plus they're thrown in the fire from day 1 when their high-potential prospects. You either need to get better coaching for them or keep the stop-gap starters on the team. We did neither the last 3 years.

Brent
11-29-2011, 08:10 PM
So over/under 3 years till the Rams move back to LA and the Khan led Jaguars move here to St. Louis?
The Jags are not going to leave Jacksonville, nor will the Rams move to LA.

People need to give up on that. The only team that is going to move to LA is a team which can be majority owned by the group who is building the stadium. If any team moves, it will be one which is not bound by a stadium lease and has the majority stake up for sale.