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Scott Wright
12-05-2011, 05:50 PM
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2012 NFL Draft - Official Underclassmen List
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Underclassmen.php

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Complex
12-05-2011, 09:39 PM
Andrew Luck source Andrew Luck

JRTPlaya21
12-05-2011, 10:52 PM
Justin Blackmon is going seeing as how he took part in Senior night.

Complex
12-05-2011, 11:07 PM
Miami Hurricanes receiver Tommy Streeter and defensive tackle Marcus Forston, both redshirt juniors, have decided to declare early for the NFL Draft.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/hurricanes/fl-tommy-streeter-marcus-fortson-nfl-draft-1206-20111205,0,149518.story

A UM spokesman said redshirt sophomore running back Lamar Miller is still deciding whether he'll make the early jump to the NFL.

dannyz
12-05-2011, 11:39 PM
Andrew Luck source Andrew Luck

Yeah you might as well add his name. People all over Twitter have said he has Declared but Twitter is not the most reliable source but this was pretty much expected and with the way he Announced he was Staying is probably the Same way he will Announce he is Leaving. I am guessing no big press conference.

You can Add Andrew Luck Now. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824c89e1/article/stanford-qb-luck-im-absolutely-prepared-to-try-the-nfl?module=HP11_headline_stack

Big Bird
12-07-2011, 10:09 AM
Justin Blackmon was honored at Senior Day at Oklahoma State.

He is safe to add to the list.

JRTPlaya21
12-07-2011, 10:19 AM
Already been posted........

Duffman57
12-07-2011, 04:51 PM
Justin Blackmon was honored at Senior Day at Oklahoma State.

He is safe to add to the list.

Well, technically isn't he a senior graduating wise?

RCSooner
12-07-2011, 05:53 PM
Add Ronnell Lewis' name to the list.

Big Bird
12-07-2011, 06:01 PM
Well, technically isn't he a senior graduating wise?
Yes, but football teams never honor a player on Senior Day unless their in their Senior year of eligibility, OR leaving for the NFL...

Iamcanadian
12-07-2011, 06:05 PM
Miami's Tomy Streeter WR and Marcus Forston DT will declare as reported by Miami University.
They are waiting on word from Miller RB, who says he will declare if he at least gets a round 2 report from the NFL Advisory Board.

Shane P. Hallam
12-07-2011, 07:25 PM
Blackmon plans to declare, says Fiesta Bowl likely his last game.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7328638/2012-nfl-draft-justin-blackmon-oklahoma-state-cowboys-plans-declare-draft

thebow305
12-08-2011, 10:44 AM
http://www.newson6.com/story/16088357/deans-blog-ronnell-lewis-heading-to-the-nfl

Ronnell Lewis source.

Iamcanadian
12-09-2011, 08:31 AM
Kalil denies reports he will return to USC. Says he is still gathering information and exploring his options.

Montee Ball says he will declare if the NFL Advisory Board gives him at least a round 2 grade.

TheSlinger
12-12-2011, 06:11 AM
Manti Te'o says he's staying which surprised me, seemed like a probably 1st round pick.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Notre-Dame-LB-Teo-to-bypass-2012-NFL-Draft.html

Didn't notice there was already a thread about it :P

HorusKing
12-12-2011, 11:11 AM
How high will streeter be drafted is the key this kid has so much natural ability it is crazy.

gpngc
12-12-2011, 12:26 PM
What happened to Lewis - he was such a hot name at midseason? His play tailed off? There was talk of first round? Is this Stanley McClover again!?

DcmRulz
12-12-2011, 01:48 PM
Lamar Miller (developing story, will be edited as more info comes in)

-Signed with Rosenhaus (via @schadjoe)

http://bruce-feldman.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/31626208/33838573

Matthew Jones
12-12-2011, 02:19 PM
Supposedly Matt Kalil is leaning towards returning:

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/33752962

Looks like Jarvis Jones will go back to school as well:

http://espn.go.com/colleges/georgia/football/story/_/id/7329980/amazing-jarvis-jones-georgia-bulldogs-plans-only-get-better

JRTPlaya21
12-12-2011, 02:36 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7345641/miami-hurricanes-rb-lamar-miller-leaving-early-nfl-draft

Lamar Miller officially going pro.

Hurricanes25
12-12-2011, 02:46 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7345641/miami-hurricanes-rb-lamar-miller-leaving-early-nfl-draft

Lamar Miller officially going pro.

Good decision. He probably got a 1st round grade and he doesn't have much mileage on those legs.

JRTPlaya21
12-12-2011, 08:08 PM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/12/dj_fluker_announces_he_will_re.html

DJ Fluker is returning

TACKLE
12-12-2011, 08:13 PM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/12/dj_fluker_announces_he_will_re.html

DJ Fluker is returning

I wonder if that's a sign that Barrett Jones and Warmack will return as well.

Matthew Jones
12-13-2011, 12:48 AM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/12/dj_fluker_announces_he_will_re.html

DJ Fluker is returning

Good call; I could actually see Barrett Jones declaring because he has already earned his degree. Fluker would really benefit from staying until he can put together a season's worth of film at left tackle.

ellsy82
12-13-2011, 12:54 AM
Manti Te'o says he's staying which surprised me, seemed like a probably 1st round pick.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Notre-Dame-LB-Teo-to-bypass-2012-NFL-Draft.html

Didn't notice there was already a thread about it :P

Who challenges him for the #1 ILB/OLB next year? He may want to get his degree and more importantly, being the consensus #1 prospect at his position in 2013. Cash money, baby!!

TheSlinger
12-13-2011, 08:10 AM
Who challenges him for the #1 ILB/OLB next year? He may want to get his degree and more importantly, being the consensus #1 prospect at his position in 2013. Cash money, baby!!

Before Skov's injury I liked him better than Te'o.

RWills
12-13-2011, 10:26 AM
to me...for QB...

It's looking more and more like Barkley and Kalil are a package deal and I think both are staying. I think Landry Jones leaves because of Allen and Bell. Griffin will leave and Wilson will stay to become a top 10 next year.

Giantsfan1080
12-13-2011, 11:58 AM
I don't know where else to put this but it looks like Sanu is actually going to be staying at Rutgers for his senior year.

Shane P. Hallam
12-13-2011, 12:02 PM
I don't know where else to put this but it looks like Sanu is actually going to be staying at Rutgers for his senior year.

Don't think that is the case. Just sounds like Rutgers stating no one has declared yet to calm down the declaration talk before the Bowl game.

TheSlinger
12-13-2011, 12:16 PM
Link for Sanu:

http://www.metro.us/newyork/sports/article/1049169--report-mohamed-sanu-to-return-to-rutgers

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the source tells Metro New York that Sanu has informed the coaching staff of his decision to return for his final year of college football. Rutgers would not confirm the report.

Giantsfan1080
12-13-2011, 01:16 PM
Don't think that is the case. Just sounds like Rutgers stating no one has declared yet to calm down the declaration talk before the Bowl game.

I'm pretty plugged into the happenings at Rutgers and there's a great chance he's staying. The rumors started Sunday and now we're starting to get some confirmations from people around the program. I'm shocked but apparently his mother wants him to graduate and they feel like we can possibly be a top 15-20 team next year.

Shane P. Hallam
12-13-2011, 01:26 PM
I'm pretty plugged into the happenings at Rutgers and there's a great chance he's staying. The rumors started Sunday and now we're starting to get some confirmations from people around the program. I'm shocked but apparently his mother wants him to graduate and they feel like we can possibly be a top 15-20 team next year.

Any links to stories about it?

Giantsfan1080
12-13-2011, 02:13 PM
Any links to stories about it?

There is the one posted above in this thread. Jason Baum who is the Rutgers press guy said no one has made a decision but I don't think they would come out and say it until after the bowl game.

Shane P. Hallam
12-13-2011, 02:47 PM
There is the one posted above in this thread. Jason Baum who is the Rutgers press guy said no one has made a decision but I don't think they would come out and say it until after the bowl game.

Bah, sorry, twas me being an idiot and misreading the thread during work, lol.

JRTPlaya21
12-13-2011, 10:30 PM
Twitter is saying Nick Perry signed with an agent.

dannyz
12-13-2011, 10:36 PM
Twitter is saying Nick Perry signed with an agent.

He did. He could Rise in the Draft with no real good pass rushers this year.

Big Bird
12-13-2011, 11:38 PM
I don't care what the numbers say, Perry used and abused Jonathan Martin in the USC-Stanford game.

If it wasn't for Luck's pocket presence, quick feet, and quick release, he would've racked up the sacks.

Perry is so explosive off the snap and has very good all-around athletic ability. He looks taller than the 6-3 he is listed at. Perry certainly isn't an elite pass rushing prospect like a Terrell Suggs or a Von Miller (ofcourse, Julius Peppers and Mario Williams too, but trying to group with guys in his size area), but I would say he has some Cameron Wake like potential. Still needs to improve against the run, but his style of play reminds me of Wake a good amount.

dannyz
12-14-2011, 03:24 AM
Jayron Hosley Leaving.

http://www2.vteffect.com/sports/2011/dec/11/hokies-hosley-heading-nfl-wilson-undecided-ar-1535498/

JRTPlaya21
12-14-2011, 10:19 AM
Ray Ray Armstrong is coming back

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33864304

Iamcanadian
12-14-2011, 10:33 AM
People need to realize that a lot of juniors will say one thing before their bowl game and quite another after their bowl game. It is just a way to keep the dogs at bay when you have other more important things to keep your mind on.

JRTPlaya21
12-14-2011, 10:43 AM
Obviously the majority of people get this. It's the USC duo who is the most up in the air. I don't doubt for a second that Fluker is staying. Ray Ray staying makes sense since every other Miami player has made their intentions known. Plus neither of those two teams are even playing in bowls.

Shane P. Hallam
12-14-2011, 06:05 PM
LaMichael James leaving:

http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2011/12/oregons_lamichael_james_will_d.html?utm_source=dlv r.it&utm_medium=twitter

TheSlinger
12-15-2011, 08:02 PM
Mortenson says Kalil is going pro.

https://twitter.com/#!/mortreport/status/147496427923312641

Hines
12-15-2011, 11:59 PM
Looks like DeCastro is officially declared.

RWills
12-16-2011, 07:45 AM
Looks like DeCastro is officially declared.

Wouldn't be suprised if Martin followed shortly

Shane P. Hallam
12-16-2011, 08:30 AM
Looking to get the link, but Miami press release that OL Brandon Washington is declaring and DE Oliver Vernon is declaring.

Scott Wright
12-16-2011, 09:03 AM
Wow, I guess this is the mass exodus from Miami that we have been expecting.

The only real surprise if that Ray Ray Armstrong is planning to go back... for now.

rawdawg
12-16-2011, 09:21 AM
Looking to get the link, but Miami press release that OL Brandon Washington is declaring and DE Oliver Vernon is declaring.

What's the thought on Olivier Vernon? I would think he's going in the 4-6 round range, due to off-field issues and lack of elite level production, but he seems like a guy that could be a huge steal if he puts it all together. He was pretty highly recruited (4-star, top 10 DE), he has good size at 6-4, 260-270, and like everyone else from The U, he's a great athlete.

RWills
12-16-2011, 09:39 AM
What's the thought on Olivier Vernon? I would think he's going in the 4-6 round range, due to off-field issues and lack of elite level production, but he seems like a guy that could be a huge steal if he puts it all together. He was pretty highly recruited (4-star, top 10 DE), he has good size at 6-4, 260-270, and like everyone else from The U, he's a great athlete.

I was thinking the same, shold look good at the combine, he flashed as a freshman and sophmore

Hines
12-16-2011, 11:41 AM
Nice, I like Brandon Washington.

ATLDirtyBirds
12-16-2011, 12:07 PM
Looking to get the link, but Miami press release that OL Brandon Washington is declaring and DE Oliver Vernon is declaring.

Ugh.




The only real surprise if that Ray Ray Armstrong is planning to go back... for now.


If Ray Ray leaves early, he could be looking at a Will Hill situation. Desperately needs another year.

gpngc
12-16-2011, 12:19 PM
Brandon Washington has a chance to James Carpenter his way into the first.

MassNole
12-16-2011, 12:25 PM
Wow, I guess this is the mass exodus from Miami that we have been expecting.

The only real surprise if that Ray Ray Armstrong is planning to go back... for now.
So that makes Lamar Miller, Tommy Streeter, Marcus Forston, Brandon Washington, and Oliver Vernon?

O||__||ch.

keylime_5
12-16-2011, 12:35 PM
He did. He could Rise in the Draft with no real good pass rushers this year.

agree. with this being a weak year for pass rushers I could see Andre Branch and Nick Perry rising to the top 25 picks possibly. My two favorite pass rushers in this class so far.

keylime_5
12-16-2011, 12:36 PM
Brandon Washington has a chance to James Carpenter his way into the first.

good comparison. i like Washington as a swing guard/right tackle who can lock down a spot for years.

Iamcanadian
12-16-2011, 12:45 PM
Brandon Washington has a chance to James Carpenter his way into the first.

I could be wrong but I think this is a bit of a stretch. I don't see round 1 in his future.

boknows34
12-16-2011, 12:55 PM
Looks like DeCastro is officially declared.

Sure does.

http://rob-rang.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/33889241?source=rss_blogs_NFL%20Draft

TACKLE
12-16-2011, 03:10 PM
Looking to get the link, but Miami press release that OL Brandon Washington is declaring and DE Oliver Vernon is declaring.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:'(

Washington should be a top 50 pick with a legitimate shot to go in the end of the first round. Vernon is talented but where he gets selected will have a lot to do with how well he tests.

Duffman57
12-16-2011, 03:30 PM
FWIW......

Rob Moseley @DuckFootball
Kenjon Barner requested a draft evaluation but plans to return next season to honor a pledge to his mother that he'd graduate.

Scott Wright
12-16-2011, 11:14 PM
Utah DT Star Lotulelei is staying in school:

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/c18c1df56f6c43c89e553850cd22a33d/FBC--Utah-Lotulelei/

That is a huge surprise since everyone expected him to declare.

Da Big Harv
12-18-2011, 01:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lYiegFWiC5I#

TailbackU
12-21-2011, 05:42 PM
USC S TJ McDonald is retuning to SC for his senior year.

https://twitter.com/#!/USC_Athletics/status/149633295586557952

http://www.usctrojans.com/blog/2011/12/tj-mcdonald-to-return-to-usc-in-2012.html

Scott Wright
12-22-2011, 09:12 AM
Matt Barkley is holding a press conference this afternoon (12/22) to announce his decision.

Shane P. Hallam
12-22-2011, 09:22 AM
Matt Barkley is holding a press conference this afternoon (12/22) to announce his decision.

Should be interesting. Some rumblings this morning that he is returning to USC.

Scott Wright
12-22-2011, 09:33 AM
Should be interesting. Some rumblings this morning that he is returning to USC.

I've heard those rumblings as well...

Be prepared to mourn fans of the Redskins, Dolphins and Browns.

Also, if Barkley did stay just think how valuable Robert Griffin III becomes...

keylime_5
12-22-2011, 09:36 AM
I've been expecting him to go back. Really really hoping he follows Matt Kalil's footsteps though. It would be nice to have more QB options in round one, but I would be very happy if we had to pick RGIII anyhow.

Abaddon
12-22-2011, 09:45 AM
Matt. Babe. You're the #2, maybe #3 QB in this class. You're cool and all, but you don't warrant a press conference. Call and give your school newspaper the scoop and take your arse back to class.

Giantsfan1080
12-22-2011, 10:07 AM
Barkley is making his announcement at 4 P.M. Eastern.

bruschis4all
12-22-2011, 10:32 AM
Vikings will be jumping for joy if he stays. A lot of teams bidding for that 2nd pick in order to get RG3. I anticipate Colts not picking up Manning's option and drafting Luck.

keylime_5
12-22-2011, 10:52 AM
I think it will have little effect on Minnesota either way. If a team wants a QB they will probably have to jump in front of the Browns either way, and the Rams could be a trading partner just as easily as the Vikings, especially if they have the 3rd pick which would be cheaper. The teams Barkley's decision will affect the most are the Browns, Dolphins, Redskins, and Bills (who I'm sure would love to see Griffin fall into their laps).

Also, both of these QBs (Barkley and RGIII) could potentailly measure in at under 6'2" which might have a huge impact on whether or not they are top 5 picks.

Thunder&Lightning
12-22-2011, 01:56 PM
dont understand why he needs a press conference if he is staying...

Shane P. Hallam
12-22-2011, 02:07 PM
dont understand why he needs a press conference if he is staying...

If I was him, I'd have a press conference, why not?

bruschis4all
12-22-2011, 02:18 PM
If I was him, I'd have a press conference, why not?

No-brainer. Have one! Tell Lane to make sure he invites some of those USC Song Girls as well!

underscore
12-22-2011, 02:32 PM
Pete Thamel of the New York Times reports USC QB Matt Barkley has informed teammates that he's staying in school for the 2012 season.

boknows34
12-22-2011, 03:08 PM
Pete Thamel of the New York Times reports USC QB Matt Barkley has informed teammates that he's staying in school for the 2012 season.

Confirmed! The anti Mark Sanchez.

Sloopy
12-23-2011, 11:42 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/schadjoe/status/150263782982168576

Don't know if it's been posted but Poe is official

CashmoneyDrew
12-23-2011, 12:07 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/schadjoe/status/150263782982168576

Don't know if it's been posted but Poe is official

Yes. Double confirmed per Jinx Allessio's twitter.

4U2NV
12-24-2011, 12:45 AM
Robert Turbin has declared. Not sure where he'll fit into the RB mix this year, I haven't had the chance to watch any Utah State games this year.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7385504/utah-state-rb-robert-turbin-announces-enter-draft

rawdawg
12-24-2011, 08:03 AM
Robert Turbin has declared. Not sure where he'll fit into the RB mix this year, I haven't had the chance to watch any Utah State games this year.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7385504/utah-state-rb-robert-turbin-announces-enter-draft

Saw Turbin's last 2 games. He didn't even look like the best RB on the team. His backup, Michael Smith was electric in both games. But Turban is an interesting prospect. He kinda reminds me of a young Michael Turner (before he got a little chunky in the midsection the last few years). He's a wide-body, that can really move. Turner ran a 4.49 at 230 at the combine, and Turbin looks to have similar speed. He also has some shiftiness, and unlike Turner, he can really catch the ball out of the backfield. I think he could have a similar career path to Turner also. Mid round pick, initially comes in as a strong backup and short yardage guy, but by the time his rookie deal is up, I think someone is going to give him money to be a starting RB.

stlouisfan37
12-24-2011, 12:56 PM
Any thoughts on where LaMichael James goes in the draft? I'm thinking second round. He has great speed and catches the ball really well out of the backfield. Would probably be a sure-fire 1st rounder if he weighed 210.

I think he would be a perfect fit with Steven Jackson in the Rams backfield.

norcalgsr
12-24-2011, 02:14 PM
Any thoughts on where LaMichael James goes in the draft? I'm thinking second round. He has great speed and catches the ball really well out of the backfield. Would probably be a sure-fire 1st rounder if he weighed 210.

I think he would be a perfect fit with Steven Jackson in the Rams backfield.

I don't get posts like this. If he weighed 210 he won't be as fast. Look at Ray Rice. He weighed 199 and ran a 4.42 at the combine. He's up to 212 now and doesn't look as fast as he did in his rookie and sophomore year.

Shane P. Hallam
12-24-2011, 02:29 PM
And I don't anticipate James running a 4.3 40 or anything like that. I'll say Top 100 pick, but probably early 3rd.

Flyboy
12-24-2011, 05:02 PM
And I don't anticipate James running a 4.3 40 or anything like that. I'll say Top 100 pick, but probably early 3rd.

I'm going to say early 2nd round... if Jahvid Best can sneak into the first round, James should at least go in the top of the 2nd.

Hines
12-27-2011, 12:03 PM
Ronnie Hillman and Jonathan Banks are more than likely declaring according to Tony Pauline.


Link to Hillman:

http://twitter.com/#!/TonyPauline/status/151715380514140160


Link to Banks:

http://twitter.com/#!/TonyPauline/status/151373944497242112



My question is how Hillman is eligible since he's a true Soph. Did he prep?

norcalgsr
12-27-2011, 04:39 PM
Ronnie Hillman and Jonathan Banks are more than likely declaring according to Tony Pauline.


Link to Hillman:

http://twitter.com/#!/TonyPauline/status/151715380514140160


Link to Banks:

http://twitter.com/#!/TonyPauline/status/151373944497242112



My question is how Hillman is eligible since he's a true Soph. Did he prep?

Hillman had to sit out a year before starting college. He's a true Soph, but he will also be 3 years removed from high school for the 2012 draft.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/21/watch-hillman-now-because-comet-might-be-gone-soon/

Shane P. Hallam
12-30-2011, 05:44 PM
Syracuse DE Chandler Jones declares:

https://twitter.com/ChanJones99

Got a 3rd round grade from the Draft Advisory Committee.

Paul
12-31-2011, 11:24 AM
Any word on VT's Bruce Taylor?

Scott Wright
12-31-2011, 02:25 PM
Wake Forest WR Chris Givens is the latest addition. Day 2 Potential.

Caulibflower
12-31-2011, 02:41 PM
How much is the Blake Bell buzz supposedly affecting Landry Jones' decision? I don't know if I ought to think it's BS, but the announcers were talking about it during the bowl game last night. Landry hasn't played well to end this season, but obviously losing his starting spot next year could be even worse and it seems that if he goes back and has a poor season there's at least some potential he could end up a "senior Snead," if you will.

underscore
12-31-2011, 03:06 PM
Gerald Hodges is returning for his senior year at Penn State.

Hodges really emerged as an OLB prospect, but made the wise choice to stay as he'd have been a late rounder this year. He has still tons of room to improve himself into a 2nd day pick at worst.

shylo3716
12-31-2011, 10:56 PM
Denard Robinson?

Sloopy
01-01-2012, 09:54 AM
RGIII has officially declared via Chris Mortensen on sunday countdown

ryno626
01-01-2012, 10:23 AM
Denard Robinson?

He submitted his paperwork to the draft advisory board but he said he is coming back for his senior year

http://annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-quarterback-denard-robinson-oh-yeah-i-expect-to-be-back/

Scott Wright
01-01-2012, 10:28 AM
RGIII has officially declared via Chris Mortensen on sunday countdown

If Mort says it, that is good enough for me!

shylo3716
01-01-2012, 11:24 AM
He submitted his paperwork to the draft advisory board but he said he is coming back for his senior year

http://annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-quarterback-denard-robinson-oh-yeah-i-expect-to-be-back/

What Grade do you think he will receive?

JRTPlaya21
01-02-2012, 12:39 AM
Cliff Harris going pro

http://mobile.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/12/21/2653780/cliff-harris-will-declare-for-2012-nfl-draft-according-to-report

Shane P. Hallam
01-02-2012, 12:03 PM
Chris Polk declares

www.twitter.com/schadjoe

4U2NV
01-02-2012, 01:46 PM
Chris Polk declares

www.twitter.com/schadjoe

Was just coming here to post this. Super excited about Polk! All of the talk will be about Richardson, Miller and David Wilson (if he declares) but I think Polk can be a great NFL starter as well.

Grizzlegom
01-02-2012, 02:38 PM
Joe Schad just tweeted that Donte Paige-Moss is declaring. 7th round flyer?

Scott Wright
01-02-2012, 02:46 PM
Joe Schad just tweeted that Donte Paige-Moss is declaring. 7th round flyer?

Wow, coming off a disappointing junior campaign and late-season ACL tear?

Yikes.

Scott Wright
01-02-2012, 04:17 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Donte Paige-Moss...

Did anyone else know about that awful Twitter rant?

Donte Paige-Moss lashes out via Twitter
Here are a few comments posted by Donte Paige-Moss via Twitter during/after yesterday's Independence Bowl loss: "Worst xmas eva cant wait till.this horrible bowl in this horrible city wit sum of da mos horrible coaches r ova" "Sum.of.yall mofos jus haten cuz yall.gotta pay.fo.skool" and then there's this little gem..."unc. Fans r.the.worse.we.win its all.good. Have a bad game we suck thats.a.reason #imout #nosupport" (WRAL Sports Fan)

http://www.tarheeltimes.com/article37423.aspx

Hines
01-02-2012, 04:20 PM
Kevin Reddick is staying at UNC for his Sr season. I'm kind of sad about that.

shylo3716
01-02-2012, 06:22 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Donte Paige-Moss...

Did anyone else know about that awful Twitter rant?

If you or anyone else do not respect him for HIS opinion, why make it a big deal? All I can do is respect the guy for not sugar coating and keeping it 110 with us all. After all it is HIS personal page and no one has to follow.

CashmoneyDrew
01-02-2012, 06:30 PM
If you or anyone else do not respect him for HIS opinion, why make it a big deal? All I can do is respect the guy for not sugar coating and keeping it 110 with us all. After all it is HIS personal page and no one has to follow.

You can respect him or whatever for keeping it "110" as you so eloquently put it, but in the end he's gone full ******. Sure we all have freedom of speech and that fine jazz, but that doesn't mean we also have freedom of consequence from our speech to go with it. His employers will not at all be pleased with crap like that. And DPM will find that out soon as his draft stock will pay dearly for this among the other things mentioned as well.

Menardo75
01-02-2012, 06:34 PM
Whomever is paying for his school needs to pay for an english class.

shylo3716
01-02-2012, 06:38 PM
You can respect him or whatever for keeping it "110" as you so eloquently put it, but in the end he's gone full ******. Sure we all have freedom of speech and that fine jazz, but that doesn't mean we also have freedom of consequence from our speech to go with it. His employers will not at all be pleased with crap like that. And DPM will find that out soon as his draft stock will pay dearly for this among the other things mentioned as well.

Jonathan Baldwin = Pick #26 1st Round to be exact

CashmoneyDrew
01-02-2012, 06:40 PM
Jonathan Baldwin = Pick #26 1st Round to be exact

What an asinine comparison.

Hurricanes25
01-02-2012, 06:42 PM
Who is going to want DPM in their locker room? I know I wouldn't want him on my team, that's for sure.

Paul
01-02-2012, 06:45 PM
It just keeps getting worse for Donte Paige-Moss...

Did anyone else know about that awful Twitter rant?

What the hell is up with all the punctuation? Is he speaking in asthma?



Also "Keeping it 110". HA

Scott Wright
01-02-2012, 06:55 PM
If you or anyone else do not respect him for HIS opinion, why make it a big deal? All I can do is respect the guy for not sugar coating and keeping it 110 with us all. After all it is HIS personal page and no one has to follow.


That is be your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I promise you nothing pisses off coaches, scouts, etc. more than guys throwing their team under the bus. Especially publicly.

A Perfect Score
01-02-2012, 06:56 PM
Anyone who has that tedious of a grasp of the English language shouldn't be drafted, period, let alone in the first round. I have a 3 year old niece who is more adept, and that's not an exaggeration.

ATLDirtyBirds
01-02-2012, 07:16 PM
Anyone who has that tedious of a grasp of the English language shouldn't be drafted, period, let alone in the first round. I have a 3 year old niece who is more adept, and that's not an exaggeration.



...How smart do you think some of these NFL players are?

A Perfect Score
01-02-2012, 08:05 PM
...How smart do you think some of these NFL players are?

Well I would expect smarter then a 3 year old, but apparently I've overestimated their intelligence.

Hines
01-02-2012, 08:22 PM
Stephon Gilmore and Montee Ball expect to declare while Konz is 50/50 according to Tony Pauline.

JHL6719
01-02-2012, 09:48 PM
Yo dawg. downlow on my 'shizzle fo reel. Keep thangs 110 on tha 157 long side a 213.


****ing idiot a** kids. Everything in life is a rap video.

shylo3716
01-02-2012, 10:02 PM
Yo dawg. downlow on my 'shizzle fo reel. Keep thangs 110 on tha 157 long side a 213.


****ing idiot a** kids. Everything in life is a rap video.

Last time I checked 100% was not full tilt

Matthew Jones
01-02-2012, 10:04 PM
What an asinine comparison.

“Heck yeah I’m leaving,” Baldwin told the web site. “It can only get worse. They had me running a lot of deep routes [this year] and yards were hard to come by. I barely ran intermediate routes; it felt like they were purposely trying to disrupt my draft stock.”

Source: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/08/with-wannstedt-gone-so-is-baldwin-to-nfl/

keylime_5
01-02-2012, 10:06 PM
I hear Landry Jones is gonna declare. Heard a rumor that Mohamed Sanu is gonna declare after initially saying he was gonna stay. Neither official, just hearsay.

4U2NV
01-02-2012, 10:15 PM
Whomever is paying for his school needs to pay for an english class.

My thoughts exactly. Guy sounds like an uneducated moron. I also don't understand some people on Twitter who spout off like that. Do they not realize that what they're saying is open to anybody who wants to read it? It's not like they're sending a private message to somebody. Say hello to undrafted free agency. What an idiot.

yanksknicks
01-02-2012, 10:41 PM
I would at least expect the moron to understand that Tweet likely cost him a few hundred thousand dollars -- if not millions.

He be can takes dat to the bank.

CashmoneyDrew
01-02-2012, 11:06 PM
Source: http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/08/with-wannstedt-gone-so-is-baldwin-to-nfl/

And? That doesn't even begin to touch DPM's tweet. And that's completely ignoring the fact that DPM isn't half the prospect he was and Baldwin didn't declare with an injury that would keep him out his rookie season.

Complex
01-02-2012, 11:17 PM
It's Twitter your suppose to shorten everything you say/type. Anyways I wouldn't mind if the titans drafted him in the 6 or 7th round.

CashmoneyDrew
01-02-2012, 11:36 PM
And Blackmon just confirmed he's going pro.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-03-2012, 12:30 AM
It just keeps getting worse for Donte Paige-Moss...

Did anyone else know about that awful Twitter rant?

pretty much every unc player has closets worth of skeletons that the nfl can dig up

did you know that the unc coaching staff asked coples to play some dt this year to get more explosive players snaps but he told them he wouldnt because it would hurt his stock?

SchizophrenicBatman
01-03-2012, 12:33 AM
paige moss also punched out a teammate (hunter furr if you want to google it) over some off-field dispute as a freshman

Menardo75
01-03-2012, 12:45 AM
pretty much every unc player has closets worth of skeletons that the nfl can dig up

did you know that the unc coaching staff asked coples to play some dt this year to get more explosive players snaps but he told them he wouldnt because it would hurt his stock?

How would that hurt his stock? It would just show his versatility what a tard.

dannyz
01-03-2012, 02:04 AM
Any News on Trent Richardson? I know he said that he might come back early in the Season but he started saying that he would think about it. I know he will probably come out but just wanted to know if people have any Info on it.

CashmoneyDrew
01-03-2012, 02:10 AM
Any News on Trent Richardson? I know he said that he might come back early in the Season but he started saying that he would think about it. I know he will probably come out but just wanted to know if people have any Info on it.

Probably won't hear anything until after the championship game. Saban is the type of coach that would really frown upon that kind of stuff before a huge game like this.

dannyz
01-03-2012, 02:20 AM
Probably won't hear anything until after the championship game. Saban is the type of coach that would really frown upon that kind of stuff before a huge game like this.

Yeah. I think he will go, Saban will tell him that he needs to Leave and not Risk Injury by Coming Back.

Also Vontaze Burfict is expected to Announce he is going to the Draft maybe Tuesday after he thanked ASU Teammates and Fans on Facebook Monday Night.

Giantsfan1080
01-03-2012, 11:08 AM
Sanu declared for the draft.

Shane P. Hallam
01-03-2012, 11:32 AM
Sanu declared for the draft.

Via Joe Schad, guess there goes our disagreement earlier in this thread, haha.

Scott Wright
01-03-2012, 11:36 AM
Sanu declared for the draft.

Another prime example why it's unwise to take underclassmen at their word in mid-December.

Shane P. Hallam
01-03-2012, 11:37 AM
Whitney Mercilus and Fletcher Cox officially declare as well

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/42992/illinois-star-whitney-mercilus-going-pro

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/mississippi_states_fletcher_co.html

thenewfeature06
01-03-2012, 11:40 AM
I would love to see Sanu fall to the 3rd!

Unless Oakland doesn't have a 3rd

Giantsfan1080
01-03-2012, 11:41 AM
Via Joe Schad, guess there goes our disagreement earlier in this thread, haha.

I always thought he was going to the NFL until a few weeks ago when there was a lot of smoke that he was going to stay. Best of luck to him though someone is going to get a steal.

4U2NV
01-03-2012, 11:42 AM
I'm loving the offensive players in this draft, very happy about Sanu.

If Knile Davis declares I will be pumped! http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2012/01/02/knile-davis-other-arkansas-underclassmen-weighing-2012-nfl-draft-options/

Shane P. Hallam
01-03-2012, 11:43 AM
I would love to see Sanu fall to the 3rd!

Unless Oakland doesn't have a 3rd

I doubt Sanu makes it out of the Top 50. He easily could go late 1st round.

Unbiased
01-03-2012, 11:44 AM
Another prime example why it's unwise to take underclassmen at their word in mid-December.

Yeah, but he did say himself that he was staying? Today was the first time I heard HIM say anything. Sounded like the school just really wanted him to stay.

thebow305
01-03-2012, 11:51 AM
Joe Schad just tweeted that Donte Paige-Moss is declaring. 7th round flyer?

I know I would. Kid has first round, superstar ability. Just a little bit of a head case though, to say the least.

Giantsfan1080
01-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Yeah, but he did say himself that he was staying? Today was the first time I heard HIM say anything. Sounded like the school just really wanted him to stay.

No Sanu never announced himself that he was staying. There were just a lot of rumors recently that he was heavily leaning towards staying. In the end he made the right move.

JRTPlaya21
01-03-2012, 12:05 PM
Vontaze Burfict going pro via ESPN bottomline.

Complex
01-03-2012, 12:27 PM
Stanford LT Jonathan Martin will forgo his senior season and enter the 2012 NFL draft.

Source: Joe Schad on Twitter

SchizophrenicBatman
01-03-2012, 12:47 PM
Rumor was that Terrell Manning had been leaning toward declaring for a while now, and it looks like joe schad has confirmed that he's doing so on twitter

Should test out pretty well at the combine and go day 2 imo

Menardo75
01-03-2012, 12:49 PM
I'm loving the offensive players in this draft, very happy about Sanu.

If Knile Davis declares I will be pumped! http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2012/01/02/knile-davis-other-arkansas-underclassmen-weighing-2012-nfl-draft-options/

Someone could get a steal if he comes back healthy. Really liked this guy a lot.

scottyboy
01-03-2012, 12:51 PM
the rumors swirled of late that sanu would stay, but if you asked me about 3 weeks ago, I would've told you I expect him to declare 100%. 0 shock here. the rumors gave us false hope though as RU fans

Complex
01-03-2012, 12:51 PM
Mississippi State DT Fletcher Cox will forgo his senior season and enter the 2012 NFL draft.

Source: Pete Thamel on Twitter

JRTPlaya21
01-03-2012, 01:40 PM
Cox post earlier on the page sir.

glazeduck
01-03-2012, 01:47 PM
Scott,

Gotta ask you about the 2 Ducks on your list...

-The rumor was that LaMichael was leaning toward going pro, but he hasn't made that official yet, and last night after winning the Rose Bowl admitted that he's seriously considering staying. At the very least it seems he's conflicted and thus shouldn't be on your list.

-Regarding Cliff Harris - haven't seen anything official about his intentions to do ANYTHING, and the latest from Eugene was that he was still enrolled and working hard on his schoolwork. Seems like assumption and/or supposition to include him on the list thus far...

JRTPlaya21
01-03-2012, 02:20 PM
Jonathan Martin going pro.

Scott Wright
01-03-2012, 02:26 PM
Scott,

Gotta ask you about the 2 Ducks on your list...

-The rumor was that LaMichael was leaning toward going pro, but he hasn't made that official yet, and last night after winning the Rose Bowl admitted that he's seriously considering staying. At the very least it seems he's conflicted and thus shouldn't be on your list.

-Regarding Cliff Harris - haven't seen anything official about his intentions to do ANYTHING, and the latest from Eugene was that he was still enrolled and working hard on his schoolwork. Seems like assumption and/or supposition to include him on the list thus far...

Can't remember the exact sources (Pauline for Harris?), but it's been reported that both are leaving. Even if they haven't technically made an announcement yet, I'd bet the house on James. As for Harris, it would be a mistake. Harris needs to go the Janoris Jenkins route.

glazeduck
01-03-2012, 02:30 PM
Can't remember the exact sources (Pauline for Harris?), but it's been reported that both are leaving. Even if they haven't technically made an announcement yet, I'd bet the house on James. As for Harris, it would be a mistake. Harris needs to go the Janoris Jenkins route.

I don't disagree with you on either, but find it strange that you're listing them as "in" when both are, at best, rumors.

James would be smart to (but wasn't the same said for Luck, Barkeley and Leinart?) and no one has heard anything from Harris.

I just think, given the popularity of this site, that it might be wise to wait until these kids make it official before you include them on your list...

Scott Wright
01-03-2012, 02:40 PM
I don't disagree with you on either, but find it strange that you're listing them as "in" when both are, at best, rumors.

James would be smart to (but wasn't the same said for Luck, Barkeley and Leinart?) and no one has heard anything from Harris.

I just think, given the popularity of this site, that it might be wise to wait until these kids make it official before you include them on your list...

I'm not just pulling them out of nowhere. There have been reports on both, which is why I added them. Just like DeCastro was added weeks ago even though he only technically declared today.

Scott Wright
01-03-2012, 03:56 PM
South Florida RB Darrell Scott is the latest addition.

Hines
01-03-2012, 04:29 PM
South Florida RB Darrell Scott is the latest addition.

I said this earlier, but this screams John Clay. Sucks. Scott had SOOOO much promise coming out of HS.

Hines
01-03-2012, 04:30 PM
Pauline JUST tweeted that both Jon Banks and Josh Boyd for MSU will stay at MSU. Damn. Banks is a surprise IMO. He was a guy I thought could rise up boards and go in the first.

4U2NV
01-03-2012, 04:52 PM
I know we will probably have a better idea after tonight but any word on David Wilson? I haven't seen much chatter about his intentions.

TACKLE
01-03-2012, 05:00 PM
South Florida RB Darrell Scott is the latest addition.

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while.

Scott Wright
01-03-2012, 05:34 PM
I know we will probably have a better idea after tonight but any word on David Wilson? I haven't seen much chatter about his intentions.

Like you said, we'll know more after the bowl but I've heard Wilson is a lean toward leaving.

Scott Wright
01-03-2012, 06:37 PM
As expected, add Iowa OT Riley Reiff to the list.

dannyz
01-03-2012, 10:29 PM
What do player have to actually do to Declare for the Draft? I mean if you announce it does that mean you are for sure in it, also what if you don't Officially Announce it like Andrew Luck is coming out and he's pretty much said that he will but he has not came out and said I am leaving and stuff. Do players have to put their Name into the NFL saying that they want to be in the Draft?

CashmoneyDrew
01-03-2012, 10:32 PM
What do player have to actually do to Declare for the Draft? I mean if you announce it does that mean you are for sure in it, also what if you don't Officially Announce it like Andrew Luck is coming out and he's pretty much said that he will but he has not came out and said I am leaving and stuff. Do players have to put their Name into the NFL saying that they want to be in the Draft?

There's paperwork that they have to send in to the league.

dannyz
01-03-2012, 11:13 PM
There's paperwork that they have to send in to the league.

Cool Thanks. I knew there was something they had to do with paper work.

Also maybe Posted already but Ronnie Hillman is Declaring for the Draft.

Shane P. Hallam
01-04-2012, 06:36 AM
Tony Pauline reporting Jayron Hosley will enter the draft.

Shane P. Hallam
01-04-2012, 11:49 AM
Tony Pauline reporting that more and more people saying Luke Kuechly will RETURN to BC

RWills
01-04-2012, 12:18 PM
Tony Pauline reporting that more and more people saying Luke Kuechly will RETURN to BC

doesn't suprise me

Iamcanadian
01-04-2012, 01:55 PM
http://www.gbnreport.com/juniors.htm

Here's a list of juniors who have declared and I have Scott's permission to occasionally post from this site.

Complex
01-04-2012, 01:59 PM
“I have decided to enter the NFL draft,” DeCastro, a first-team All-American, said from his Twitter account, “Thanks to all who have supported me and Stanford football. I wouldn’t have wanted to be anywhere else

keylime_5
01-04-2012, 02:23 PM
Montee Ball is returning to school.

https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/statuses/154376328982966272

He mustn't like money.

the_dark_knight
01-04-2012, 02:52 PM
Montee Ball is returning to school.

https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/statuses/154376328982966272

He mustn't like money.

You only get 1 shot at your college years. I'd say he's making the right choice. The draft isn't quite the money grab it once was with the way the limitations are on the picks in regards to rookie salary cap. He wasn't going to be a high pick, go back, enjoy your senior year and see if you can pick up that Heisman along the way.

underscore
01-04-2012, 03:05 PM
Kinda surprising to me on Ball. They're going to have to replace several coaches and find a new QB to rent.

keylime_5
01-04-2012, 03:07 PM
if he didn't win a heisman this year after breaking Barry Sanders' total TD record then it's extremely doubtful that he ever will. His stock will never be higher. Runningbacks have the shortest shelf-life of any position in the NFL. He's throwing away a whole year of NFL salary that he won't get back (which are a bigger deal for RBs than any other positions b/c of longevity) and likely won't be drafted any higher than he would be this year, so his rookie contract and signing bonus won't be any bigger next year. He also risks injury, plus his OC, OL coach, and the QB that made that offense so wide open (which opened up the door for his success) are gone. Teams can focus on stopping him next year without Wilson and that passing game. Backs going back for a senior year rarely work out for the better. Without question a mistake for his financial and football future to return.

Scott Wright
01-04-2012, 03:17 PM
I think it's a great decision by Ball.

If he comes out this year he'd be a second or third rounder and half to battle at least a half dozen other underclassmen running backs for a draft slot. However, next year Ball would enter the year as the top rated senior at his position and could even be a first round pick.

keylime_5
01-04-2012, 03:20 PM
I think you're either a first round pick or not when it comes to runningbacks. If he's not gonna get a first round grade after the season he's had this year then he'll never be one. This year he has to battle Lamar Miller and David Wilson for 2nd back selected behind Richardson - next year he has at least Lattimore and Dyer in front of him (not to mention more physically gifted guys who might come from off the radar and leap him), and these days 3 or more runningbacks typically don't go in round one.

MassNole
01-04-2012, 06:04 PM
Lot of rumblings Greg Reid will declare early, unclear if he means for the NFL or CFL.

SchizophrenicBatman
01-04-2012, 06:10 PM
I know we will probably have a better idea after tonight but any word on David Wilson? I haven't seen much chatter about his intentions.

I hear there's a real scarcity of RBs in the NFL that can break off negative 30 yard runs

shylo3716
01-04-2012, 06:46 PM
Lot of rumblings Greg Reid will declare early, unclear if he means for the NFL or CFL.

Won't go no later then the 5th Round and I'm talking NFL. Matthieu opened the flood gates this year for smurfs again. Reid should return especially with Harris leaving which will give him burn full time as a starter to boost his stock as a CB not just a KR

Marino13
01-04-2012, 08:36 PM
Doug Haller is reporting Brock Osweiler is considering entering the draft. Not impressed with the new coaching staff's sales pitch, but also knows he's not ready yet.

CashmoneyDrew
01-04-2012, 09:14 PM
Doug Haller is reporting Brock Osweiler is considering entering the draft. Not impressed with the new coaching staff's sales pitch, but also knows he's not ready yet.

Actually I've been wondering if he would do this ever since Barkley and Wilson said they were going back. Could be the third QB taken this year with good workouts.

dannyz
01-04-2012, 09:19 PM
I keep seeing people saying LaMichael James is thinking about saying in School. I think it's a bad move on his part because his Stock can't get much higher than it is now, he will have more Carries and hits to his body plus the 2013 Class of RB's have a chance to be better than 2012.

Spartan4224
01-04-2012, 09:40 PM
Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State getting an agent and going pro.

keylime_5
01-04-2012, 09:42 PM
I keep seeing people saying LaMichael James is thinking about saying in School. I think it's a bad move on his part because his Stock can't get much higher than it is now, he will have more Carries and hits to his body plus the 2013 Class of RB's have a chance to be better than 2012.

this, plus Thomas will take his touches away significantly next season.

Spartan4224
01-04-2012, 09:45 PM
Montee Ball is returning to school.

https://twitter.com/#!/evansilva/statuses/154376328982966272

He mustn't like money.

Doesn't play for Ohio State

Matthew Jones
01-05-2012, 12:22 AM
Draft stock is not the only thing potential entrants should be considering; this is their last chance to play with their college teammates, enjoy their campus and education, and be a featured player. Some of these guys won't get that kind of opportunity again.

dannyz
01-05-2012, 01:23 AM
I heard that Luke Kuechly wants to stay for his Senior year but people are telling him to go and that he will lower his stock by staying. Man if he goes back that LB Class could be pretty good.

theMadStork
01-05-2012, 02:47 AM
I heard that Luke Kuechly wants to stay for his Senior year but people are telling him to go and that he will lower his stock by staying. Man if he goes back that LB Class could be pretty good.

Wasn't next years LB class supposed to be this years LB class?

Hines
01-05-2012, 10:21 AM
Alshon Jeffery made it official according to Joe Schad.

Shane P. Hallam
01-05-2012, 10:30 AM
Wasn't next years LB class supposed to be this years LB class?

That's the crux of underclassmen. Teo and Kuechly go back, LB class takes a hit.

shylo3716
01-05-2012, 10:32 AM
Can someone please keep me posted on Greg Reid?

jrdrylie
01-05-2012, 10:34 AM
Stephon Gilmore is declaring.

https://twitter.com/#!/nfldraftscout/status/154963158321201152

jrdrylie
01-05-2012, 10:35 AM
Alshon Jeffery too

https://twitter.com/#!/schadjoe/status/154959339805868032

MassNole
01-05-2012, 11:02 AM
Won't go no later then the 5th Round and I'm talking NFL. Matthieu opened the flood gates this year for smurfs again. Reid should return especially with Harris leaving which will give him burn full time as a starter to boost his stock as a CB not just a KR

This makes sense, however Greg Reid may have some bad influences pushing him for the money grab (cough, Papa Reid). At this point I would imagine NFL teams see him as solely a Return Specialist and Round 5 would be the highest he would go. With another year if he performs well at CB he could be seen as a Nickelback and go in the Top 100.

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 11:35 AM
For one reason or another underclassmen from South Carolina always tend to come out.

Wouldn't be surprised if Devin Taylor joined Jeffery and Gilmore too.

MassNole
01-05-2012, 12:52 PM
Per D.C. Reeves of Warchant.com, DE/OLB Brandon Jenkins is staying for his senior year.

MassNole
01-05-2012, 12:53 PM
Can someone please keep me posted on Greg Reid?
A lot of insiders are thinking with Jenkins coming back that Reid and Rhodes will follow suit.

keylime_5
01-05-2012, 01:42 PM
For one reason or another underclassmen from South Carolina always tend to come out.

Wouldn't be surprised if Devin Taylor joined Jeffery and Gilmore too.

b/c the #1 reason top recruits come here is to play in the SEC and get into the NFL I would guess.

diabsoule
01-05-2012, 02:32 PM
Joe Schad just tweeted that OU's Ronnell Lewis is coming out.

DBNYDP
01-05-2012, 03:30 PM
http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34207165

Montee Ball is staying in school.

Just a bad decision. Ball is going to find it tough to have a better year next year and I doubt his stock will be as high as it is right now. In addition especially with the running back position there isn't a whole lot he is going to develop going back. Considering how NFL teams don't want as much wear and tear on a running back, coming back isn't the best of ideas. Not to mention that the nature of the position makes it so that injuries are common, so if he does get injured which could easily happen his stock could go down from a possible second rounder to maybe into the 5th and onward. I only see negatives in him going back to school in regards to his draft stock, there are obviously other options but this is passing up a huge opportunity.

Hines
01-05-2012, 03:44 PM
Stephen Hill from Georgia Tech is going pro.

https://twitter.com/#!/SportsMasterDan/status/155041529071800320

yanksknicks
01-05-2012, 03:55 PM
Opinion of Worthy as a 3-4 NT?

underscore
01-05-2012, 04:04 PM
Worthy's my pick for 1st round bust

RWills
01-05-2012, 04:06 PM
Opinion of Worthy as a 3-4 NT?

No, neither a 5-tech which I have seen in some mocks, he is a 3-tech inside 4-3

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 04:06 PM
Stephen Hill from Georgia Tech is going pro.

https://twitter.com/#!/SportsMasterDan/status/155041529071800320

Didn't have a lot of catches but certainly made the most of opportunities:

Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Stephen-Hill.php

As always this will be a very tough evaluation due to the Ramblin Wreck system.

TACKLE
01-05-2012, 04:10 PM
Stephen Hill from Georgia Tech is going pro.

https://twitter.com/#!/SportsMasterDan/status/155041529071800320

Look out for this guy. Expect him to be a very fast riser. He's 6'4/6'5, runs very well for a guy his size, has excellent leaping ability and body control not to mention a 30 ypc average this year. His hands are a little inconsistent at times but he can make some amazing catches at times .Obviously he has the system questions but this guy is easily one of the top WR's in this draft from a talent perspective.

DBNYDP
01-05-2012, 04:12 PM
That sounds like Demaryious Thomas IMO.

RWills
01-05-2012, 04:17 PM
Stephen Hill from Georgia Tech is going pro.

https://twitter.com/#!/SportsMasterDan/status/155041529071800320

It should be interesting where people see his value, high ceiling IMO but raw, I dont think he is the same prospect as D. Thomas but I think solid second round.

what does everyone else think?

Hines
01-05-2012, 04:19 PM
Landry Jones is returning.

Paul
01-05-2012, 04:22 PM
Ryan Tannehill pops champagne.

WT01
01-05-2012, 04:23 PM
Landry Jones is returning.

At least now people will stop mocking him to the Seahawks in the first round. Now if they would only stop mocking Coples...

Vaylor
01-05-2012, 04:25 PM
Landry Jones is returning.

Horrible mistake. He was a late 1st round pick at worst.

WT01
01-05-2012, 04:28 PM
Horrible mistake. He was a late 1st round pick at worst.

I doubt it. Teams go crazy over QBs but other than size and a relatively strong arm, Jones doesn't have a lot of traits that teams look for in a first round QB.

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 04:31 PM
Landry Jones is returning.

Not ready for a developmental standpoint but turning down a chance to be a Top 15 pick

A few thoughts:

1) Baylor's Robert Griffin III just became even MORE valuable.

2) The market for Matt Flynn is going to be huge. Browns? Redskins? Dolphins? Seahawks?

3) The door is now wide open for Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M to be a first rounder.

Vaylor
01-05-2012, 04:33 PM
I doubt it. Teams go crazy over QBs but other than size and a relatively strong arm, Jones doesn't have a lot of traits that teams look for in a first round QB.

Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder say hello.

TACKLE
01-05-2012, 04:33 PM
3) The door is now wide open for Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M to be a first rounder.

It always was.

WT01
01-05-2012, 04:35 PM
Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder say hello.

Gabbert and Ponder had a thing called mobility. Jones doesn't. That's quickly becoming one of the most important QB factors in today's NFL.

gpngc
01-05-2012, 04:36 PM
Not ready for a developmental standpoint but turning down a chance to be a Top 15 pick

A few thoughts:

1) Baylor's Robert Griffin III just became even MORE valuable.

2) The market for Matt Flynn is going to be huge. Browns? Redskins? Dolphins? Seahawks?

3) The door is now wide open for Ryan Tannehill of Texas A&M to be a first rounder.

Agree. Rams at 2 or Vikings at 3 could get a BOATLOAD for dealing down. Packers could get a lot if they tag/trade Flynn also.

Methinks another QB will rise into the first/second area in addition to Tanny. Foles? Lindley? Who ya got?

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 04:40 PM
Agree. Rams at 2 or Vikings at 3 could get a BOATLOAD for dealing down. Packers could get a lot if they tag/trade Flynn also.

I agree that Griffin is going to be a Top 3 overall pick. However, the Packers aren't going to franchise Flynn. It's just too big of a risk ($14+ million guaranteed).

Methinks another QB will rise into the first/second area in addition to Tanny. Foles? Lindley? Who ya got?

If that happens it will come from the group of Nick Foles, Brandon Weeden, Kirk Cousins and Kellen Moore. Especially watch out for Moore, who is this year's Andy Dalton.

Don't rule out a surprise underclassmen signal caller coming out to take advantage of this situation either. Perhaps Arizona State's Brock Osweiler?

shylo3716
01-05-2012, 04:47 PM
Landry Jones is returning.

WTF is he doing! Landry Jones sounds nothing similar to Jake Locker. What an IDIOT and I'm stating he is nothing short of every uppercase letter.

2012 Draft = 1st Round opposed to 2013 Draft = possible clipboard action + 2nd Round or better.

TACKLE
01-05-2012, 06:20 PM
Word is Brock Osweiler is declaring. Credible link pending...

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 06:43 PM
Word is Brock Osweiler is declaring. Credible link pending...

If so, very interesting... Blaine Gabbert Part II?

keylime_5
01-05-2012, 06:47 PM
I agree that Griffin is going to be a Top 3 overall pick. However, the Packers aren't going to franchise Flynn. It's just too big of a risk ($14+ million guaranteed).



If that happens it will come from the group of Nick Foles, Brandon Weeden, Kirk Cousins and Kellen Moore. Especially watch out for Moore, who is this year's Andy Dalton.

Don't rule out a surprise underclassmen signal caller coming out to take advantage of this situation either. Perhaps Arizona State's Brock Osweiler?

lol, how many "this year's Andy Dalton" 's will there be this year? I'm now taking all bets that Kellen Moore won't go high second round at 5'11"/190 with a spaghetti arm.

Dangermouse
01-05-2012, 06:48 PM
Guys I'm waiting to here for board purposes: When can we expect decisions from the following(and what will they likely be)

Trent Richardson
David Wilson
Reuben Randle
Dwayne Allen
Tyler Eifert
Orson Charles
Barrett Jones
Bobby Massie
Cordy Glenn
Brandon Jenkins
Nico Johnson
Luke Kuechly
Donta Hightower
Kevin Reddick
Morris Claiborne
Dre Kirkpatrick
Desmond Trufant

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Hines
01-05-2012, 06:49 PM
I want Stepfan Taylor to declare. I like him a lot.

asdf1223
01-05-2012, 06:50 PM
Guys I'm waiting to here for board purposes: When can we expect decisions from the following(and what will they likely be)

Trent Richardson
David Wilson
Reuben Randle
Dwayne Allen
Tyler Eifert
Orson Charles
Barrett Jones
Bobby Massie
Cordy Glenn
Brandon Jenkins
Nico Johnson
Luke Kuechly
Donta Hightower
Kevin Reddick
Morris Claiborne
Dre Kirkpatrick
Desmond Trufant

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

I dont think Desmond Trufant is coming out. If he did an announcement would have come out already.

gpngc
01-05-2012, 06:53 PM
lol, how many "this year's Andy Dalton" 's will there be this year? I'm now taking all bets that Kellen Moore won't go high second round at 5'11"/190 with a spaghetti arm.

I thought the exact same thing about ******* Dalton, especially after watching him in the Senior Bowl.

Oh, the crow I'm going to have to eat when I post my annual draft reax this year... ****.

JRTPlaya21
01-05-2012, 06:53 PM
Well obviously everyone in the title game won't be announcing til after that. Jones is staying & I think Kuechly is gone. I hear Randle may leave. Glenn is a Senior....

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Perhaps Arizona State's Brock Osweiler?

Just had to point out that I called Osweiler as a possibility to go pro earlier today. :o)

For those who want more info. on Osweiler, including stats, here is a link to his "DC" page:

Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona St.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/QB/Brock-Osweiler.php

Paul
01-05-2012, 07:07 PM
Just had to point out that I called Osweiler as a possibility to go pro earlier today. :o)

This is getting good.

keylime_5
01-05-2012, 07:19 PM
I thought the exact same thing about ******* Dalton, especially after watching him in the Senior Bowl.

Oh, the crow I'm going to have to eat when I post my annual draft reax this year... ****.

at least Dalton had size at 6'2"/220. He was also a decent athlete. Moore is small, weak-armed, and not very athletic or mobile. Triple whammy. Oh yeah, I forgot that he plays in a very QB friendly system as well.

ATLDirtyBirds
01-05-2012, 07:22 PM
Look out for this guy. Expect him to be a very fast riser. He's 6'4/6'5, runs very well for a guy his size, has excellent leaping ability and body control not to mention a 30 ypc average this year. His hands are a little inconsistent at times but he can make some amazing catches at times .Obviously he has the system questions but this guy is easily one of the top WR's in this draft from a talent perspective.

Agreed. Came away impressed every time I saw him. Only question now is where he fits in the rankings.

RaiderNation
01-05-2012, 07:22 PM
Just had to point out that I called Osweiler as a possibility to go pro earlier today. :o)

For those who want more info. on Osweiler, including stats, here is a link to his "DC" page:

Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona St.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/QB/Brock-Osweiler.php

Where are you predicting he may go? Interesting size to go along with a very solid arm, he may end up going around where Mallett went last year. 3rd-5th is a solid projection at this point IMO....

Dangermouse
01-05-2012, 07:23 PM
at least Dalton had size at 6'2"/220. He was also a decent athlete. Moore is small, weak-armed, and not very athletic or mobile. Triple whammy. Oh yeah, I forgot that he plays in a very QB friendly system as well.

I think when Scott says Kellen Moore is this year's Dalton, he doesn't mean playing style, he means he's going to have an offseason rise and go on the middle night of the draft.

Scott Wright
01-05-2012, 07:31 PM
Where are you predicting he may go? Interesting size to go along with a very solid arm, he may end up going around where Mallett went last year. 3rd-5th is a solid projection at this point IMO....

Right now I'd conservatively say Round 2 or 3.

However, I need to watch A LOT more tape.

RaiderNation
01-05-2012, 07:35 PM
Right now I'd conservatively say Round 2 or 3.

However, I need to watch A LOT more tape.

What about Whitney Mercilus from Illinois? He led college football in sacks this year with 16 sacks, and also 9 FF. Could he be seen as a Nick Fairley type DLmen that had 1 outstanding season and is viewed as a "boom or bust" type prospect?

gpngc
01-05-2012, 07:35 PM
I was never impressed with Osweiler but those physical tools are too enticing for teams to pass up in the 2nd-3rd round. He's got potential.

keylime_5
01-05-2012, 07:47 PM
I think when Scott says Kellen Moore is this year's Dalton, he doesn't mean playing style, he means he's going to have an offseason rise and go on the middle night of the draft.

oh yes, I know what people mean when they say someone is this year's Andy Dalton. Feels like I've heard it about 3 or 4 different guys already throughout the season. Like I said, I'm accepting any takers who thinks Kellen Moore will go anywhere near where Dalton went last year. Colt McCoy was bigger, more athletic, just as smart and productive, with a better arm even and he still went round 3 and isn't giving NFL teams any reason to take short, weak QBs any higher than that.

JRTPlaya21
01-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Brandon Jenkins is staying per FSU scout page.

Hines
01-05-2012, 10:50 PM
Pauline reporting that Kawann Short is declaring.

Hines
01-05-2012, 11:04 PM
Bernard Pierce also made it official.

ElectricEye
01-05-2012, 11:11 PM
Someone is going to get a hell of a value from a pure pure talent standpoint with Osweiler in the 2nd or 3rd.

CDCB14
01-05-2012, 11:17 PM
Someone is going to get a hell of a value from a pure pure talent standpoint with Osweiler in the 2nd or 3rd.

What are the pros and cons of Osweiler? I watched his bowl game but that was really it. If he is allowed to sit for a couple years behind a proven QB would he have a good chance of being a quality starter?

Brown Leader
01-05-2012, 11:24 PM
It should be interesting where people see his value, high ceiling IMO but raw, I dont think he is the same prospect as D. Thomas but I think solid second round.

what does everyone else think?

Reminded me of Brandon Marshall when I watched him this season. Ridiculous size and excellent yac ability. Made one of the prettiest catches I've ever seen against Maryland, I think it was. Also ridiculously raw. I'd say 4-5 round in this WR heavy class unless he really shines at the combine. Either way I want him on my team.

If so, very interesting... Blaine Gabbert Part II?
I'm shocked Osweilier's declaring. I thought he'd be in the first round mix next year. Despite that bowl game I think he's more clutch than Blaine.

What are the pros and cons of Osweiler? I watched his bowl game but that was really it. If he is allowed to sit for a couple years behind a proven QB would he have a good chance of being a quality starter?
I think he's got everything-size-arm-mobility-intangibles-just a frightening lack of experience. .....he's kind of like a giant Mark Sanchez.

CDCB14
01-05-2012, 11:33 PM
I think he's got everything-size-arm-mobility-intangibles-just a frightening lack of experience. .....he's kind of like a giant Mark Sanchez.

So, if you knew he got to sit behind an established QB for 2-3 years would you bank on him becoming a solid starter?

Brown Leader
01-05-2012, 11:36 PM
So, if you knew he got to sit behind an established QB for 2-3 years would you bank on him becoming a solid starter?

I definitely think so. I would've bet he was going to be a mid to high first round pick had he stayed another year.

CDCB14
01-05-2012, 11:51 PM
I definitely think so. I would've bet he was going to be a mid to high first round pick had he stayed another year.

Romo has two more years on his contract. If your the Cowboys and he's there in the 3rd would you take him?

Go_Eagles77
01-06-2012, 12:11 AM
I definitely wouldn't mind if the picked Osweiler in the 2nd to develop for a couple years.

Brown Leader
01-06-2012, 12:29 AM
Romo has two more years on his contract. If your the Cowboys and he's there in the 3rd would you take him?

He's going to steadily rise by April. Scratching the first round wouldn't surprise me, especially if he's got a good head on his shoulders. How many 6'8, strong armed, athletic guys at QB are there out there?

dannyz
01-06-2012, 12:45 AM
David Wilson is going to Announce Friday about his Decisions about the NFL DRAFT.

Besides the Alabama and LSU guys who are the big names who have yet to make their Decision?

Tyler Eifert Received a 3RD Round Grade and probably won't come out but his Decision should come Next Week.

SolidGold
01-06-2012, 07:32 AM
Gabbert and Ponder had a thing called mobility. Jones doesn't. That's quickly becoming one of the most important QB factors in today's NFL.

Mobility how? Like pocket awareness/moving around in the pocket - yes that is important but mobility as in taking off and running the ball is not. It's been around since the league began and time and again teams with QBs who have command of the pocket and are able to move around in the pocket are the successful QBs. Gabbert's mobility has not translated and he has bad pocket awareness.

SolidGold
01-06-2012, 07:34 AM
Wow...did not expect Osweiler to come out, I thought he had a good year in his first full year starting but expected him to go back and develop to improve his stock. He must have received word that his projected draft stock is pretty high to leave already. He is one of the more fascinating QB prospects in this draft due to his sheer size.

jrdrylie
01-06-2012, 10:26 AM
UCF cornerback Josh Robinson declared. From twitter.