Eagles get Spikes and Holcomb for Walker and conditional 7th rounder in 2008

[mpt117]

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/default.jsp

[Space Ghost]

I guess Holcomb isn't retiring. Walker should help our defense some. I don't think this was the right trade for the Bills unless this helps our run defense more than I think it will.

[America]

Eagles got a deal. Walker sucked, he was lousy against the run. Spikes could play all three positions and let Trotter get off the field on 3rd down.

[Homicide]

That is a huge upgrade for the Eagles. Will they possibly go for WR now because of the trade?

[Number 10]

Nice deal for the Eagles.

[Number 10]

Bills are rid of Spikes, Clements, McGahee....and they get...um....?

Talk about an overhaul

[bored of education]

Yeah, Bills.. I dunno.

[TNewFan41]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.

[draftguru151]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.

I'm pretty sure you are the only one that does that.

[niel89]

he is a great addition for that price tag. eagles got a deal there

[Number 10]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.

Ironic.


Anyway....Spikes did not "just tear his achilles" and played decent last year. He showed flashes of his old self and while he is slowed down a bit, he is still a player and a VAST upgrade over what they have at LB.

[niel89]

I'm pretty sure you are the only one that does that.

but terrance newman isnt a probowler :D

[regoob2]

okoye is definetly out of there plans, rb, or willis in the draft imo

[TNewFan41]

I'm pretty sure you are the only one that does that.

Are you kidding? Eagles fans are the craziest fans in the world. THey will all come in and start saying what a great signing it is and all that crap.

[TNewFan41]

but terrance newman isnt a probowler :D

But DeAngelo Hall is. :D

LMFAO!!!!!

[Damix]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.


I don't know, maybe like you and Leonard Davis? Just going out on a whim here.

[DeMonikk1]

Are you kidding? Eagles fans are the craziest fans in the world. THey will all come in and start saying what a great signing it is and all that crap.


From what i have read of your posts, you're not much better...Spikes is 30 years old, they can get 3 or 4 more solid years from him..it's a definite upgrade..

[BehrenMan007]

Bills are rid of Spikes, Clements, McGahee....and they get...um....?

Talk about an overhaul

dont forget london fletcher

[TitanHope]

Take it easy on the Bills guys... They're rebuilding...and apparently want stay that way for the next 5 years...

[bearsfan_51]

Hey everyone talked **** about the Bills draft last year too and it turned out to be a pretty smart move.

[bills_red]

Spikes-Old but decent
Clements-OVERpaid
McGahee-God I hate this guy
Fletcher-Old and and makes a lot of T 5-10 yard down the field (anyone can do that)
H-Decent backup

[Vikes99ej]

Does anyone really take TNewFan41 seriously?

Looks like a good deal for the Eagles. Spikes may be a little old, but he's the best and most experienced OLB they have now.

[bills_red]

he is a great addition for that price tag. eagles got a deal there

6 mill....................lol

[gonzo1105]

I might be mistaken but where does it say that the conditional draft pick given up is a conditional 7th rounder. All it says as the header is a conditional 2008 pick and when you click on the story talks about Raegor the DT they just signed no mention of the compensation for draft pick. So far the pick could be a conditional anything from what I see.

[GiantRutgersFan]

damnit....


at least I can count on Mcnabb getting injured

[GiantRutgersFan]

I might be mistaken but where does it say that the conditional draft pick given up is a conditional 7th rounder. All it says as the header is a conditional 2008 pick and when you click on the story talks about Raegor the DT they just signed no mention of the compensation for draft pick. So far the pick could be a conditional anything from what I see.

yea i noticed that as well

[mpt117]

it was reported on the radio as a conditional 7th rounder...but im now gonna guess a conditional late rounder in 2008

[eaglesalltheway]

As an Eagles fan, I am psyched about this deal. I am not going to go crazy and say he is a probowler like TNEW would do. But I will say we get to fill two draft needs, while losing a DT who can't stop the run and a seventh rounder next year. This trade does make our team much better though, I don't care what TNew says, I try not to pay attention to what he says anyway, he is a MORON. The Eagles biggest needs are now Strong Safety and either a WILL or a MIKE, depending on what our FO thinks about Gaither. Personally, I think it will be MIKE, Gaither is very good at the WILL. If we get a solid draft pick at LB, we could have a nasty LB corp for years, with the developmentof Gocong and Gaither. Our LBs will be able to be used in sooooo many ways next year. The Eagles have the potential to be a top 5 offense and a top 5 or ten defense if they get a good draft. I am so happy right now, and TNew should be shaking in his boots, because our D will be ripping apart "Big D" for the next few years to come.

[RCAChainGang]

Does anyone really take TNewFan41 seriously?

Looks like a good deal for the Eagles. Spikes may be a little old, but he's the best and most experienced OLB they have now.

I see where TNewman comin from but....... it is an upgrade. Its not a change that is gonna be huge but it does help the eagles.

[eaglesalltheway]

Does anyone really take TNewFan41 seriously?

Looks like a good deal for the Eagles. Spikes may be a little old, but he's the best and most experienced OLB they have now.

To answer your question, NO!!!!!

[cunningham06]

Spikes has a great work ethic, so I don't think it's out of the question to say that he could regain close to old form. Regardless he is an improvement over Dhani Jones for sure.

[bills_red]

Willis = lock at 12

[eaglesalltheway]

Spikes has a great work ethic, so I don't think it's out of the question to say that he could regain close to old form. Regardless he is an improvement over Dhani Jones for sure.

Absolutely, I am so glad there will be less of the bowtie at SAM for us.

[Non_Sequitur]

I don't see where it says "7th round" on the link. It just says "conditional 2008 pick"

[Philliez01]

This is interesting this deal as Spikes is an upgrade over the likes of Dhani Jones and Matt McCoy. Chris Gocong is probably slated to be a pass-rusher though I am curious to see his tackling ability as a LB'er, he should have some success there.

Now Gaither looked good down the line for Philadelphia and I can see him starting next season or at the least, getting extensive PT. The Eagles shuffling Trotter in and out should definitely help his career a bit and keep everyone fresh so I think this is a solid move for Philly.

Broderick Bunkley, welcome to the lineup.

[eaglesalltheway]

Bunkley better step it up and contribute like our FO thought he would be able to. Lets go Bunk, hit that weight room so you can hit the field and get some major PT.

[bills_red]

Spikes 6 m
Holcomb 2.9 m
Total 8.9 m

Walker 1.3 m

8.9 - 1.3 = 7.6 Million Bills save

[cunningham06]

We just didn't give Bunkley enough opportunity. If he starts this season we will see some steady improvement.

[Number 10]

Spikes 6 m
Holcomb 2.9 m
Total 8.9 m

Walker 1.3 m

8.9 - 1.3 = 7.6 Million Bills save

Bills swallow a $3 million cap hit.

[bills_red]

We just didn't give Bunkley enough opportunity. If he starts this season we will see some steady improvement.

You hope to anyway

[Number 10]

We just didn't give Bunkley enough opportunity. If he starts this season we will see some steady improvement.

Bunkley was one of my favorite prospects in last year's draft. I am actually looking forward to watching him play a full season.

[bills_red]

Bills swallow a $3 million cap hit.


Were does it say they take a 3 mill hit?

then they save 4.6

[Number 10]

Were does it say they take a 3 mill hit?

then they save 4.6


Saw it on KFFL I think

[bills_red]

Saw it on KFFL I think

Yea I just saw that on billsdaily.com
LB Takeo Spikes $6M - $3M against cap if released

[TheChampIsHere]

What a steal for the Eagles. They get Spikes for a DT they were probly gonna cut anyways and a conditional pick next year. Great move, gives them a lot more flexibility.

[eaglesalltheway]

We just didn't give Bunkley enough opportunity. If he starts this season we will see some steady improvement.

I sure hope so, because if he can live up to his pick, our defense will be monstrous next year, I hope.

[RCAChainGang]

Yea I just saw that on billsdaily.com
LB Takeo Spikes $6M - $3M against cap if released

LOL dont you guys play madden. I always have like a 10 million cap hit for releasing :)

[bills_red]

Good report
http://buffalobills.com/blog/index.jsp?blogger_id=1



Spikes, Holcomb trade
Today Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 9:16 PM ET | Link


SPIKES, HOLCOMB TRADE: I have to commend the Bills on this move. They clear some salary space and help to address a need on the interior of their defensive line. Even better Walker is still under contract through the 2008 season at reasonable money ($1.3M base in 2007 and $1.4M base in 2008). Holcomb really wasn't a fit in Steve Fairchild's offense. He's a better fit for the horizontal passing attack of a west coast offense, so he should serve a purpose in Philly.

Walker is a hard-nosed defensive tackle who can penetrate. His sack totals are impressive for an interior player, although playing with two good defensive ends helped in Cole and Kearse (when healthy). I like that Walker has been durable and though he is 30-years old, he won't have to play 50 plays a game in Buffalo's rotational system, so he should be able to stay fresh. I expect him to work with Larry Tripplett at the 3-technique position and rotate through. I'm wondering if this means that John McCargo will become a full time nose tackle or one-technique and rotate with Kyle Williams. We'll have to see.

I'm hearing the conditional pick is a seventh rounder for Holcomb.

It's really tough to see Spikes leave knowing the warrior he was when healthy, but I don't think the Bills felt they could afford to wait another season to see if Spikes would return to full form. Spikes' last two games last season were pretty productive and I understand his performance in those two games is what sold the Eagles on him.

Unfortunately the odds are against NFL players who try to return from achilles injuries. Sure everyone references Seattle's Julian Peterson, but he is an exception to the rule. Chicago's Mike Brown still isn't right after missing most of last season. Philadelphia's Todd Pinkston struggled in his return to form last year. Sam Cowart was never the same player. I'm never one to doubt Spikes and his incredible will, but the statistics build a compelling case against him.

Still I wish him luck. He was a stand up locker room guy and very active in the community.

---

[snailplow]

Spikes-Old but decent
Clements-OVERpaid
McGahee-God I hate this guy
Fletcher-Old and and makes a lot of T 5-10 yard down the field (anyone can do that)
H-Decent backup


RT Langston Walker-->Will make you cuss at him like a sailor.........seriously, you may not believe this, but he was actually WORSE than Gallery.

[eaglesalltheway]

Do the Bills free up cap space or lose some, because from the looks of most o the info here, it looks as thought hey lose space in their cap.

[bills_red]

Do the Bills free up cap space or lose some, because from the looks of most o the info here, it looks as thought hey lose space in their cap.

Read my post above by Chris Brown

[bills_red]

RT Langston Walker-->Will make you cuss at him like a sailor.........seriously, you may not believe this, but he was actually WORSE than Gallery.

He might suck he might not. Everyone sucked on their O-Line you never know he might be good with some good coaching (Jim McNally)

[snailplow]

He might suck he might not. Everyone sucked on their O-Line you never know he might be good with some good coaching (Jim McNally)

The dude's been in the league for years, and he's been beat like a drum consistently ever since he's been a starter........Trust me, he's a turnstile, and it won't be long before they try him at guard.
The bad thing is he wasn't that much better there either.

[gonzo1105]

Well it appears it is a conditional 7th rounder. My question is what are the conditions and just how high can this conditional pick go if he meets all the requirements....Hopefully we can at least get a 6th out of this with the high end being a 5th.

[Lee Evans83]

Ellison WILLIS and Crowell sounds nice...

[Flyboy]

Ellison WILLIS and Crowell sounds nice...

Granted he's available at 12...

[Stash]

I like what the Bills are doing, they have a good young squad to build around and they are freeing up cap space. All the guys they got rid of were either old or disgruntled, so they didn't lose much.

[bills_red]

The dude's been in the league for years, and he's been beat like a drum consistently ever since he's been a starter........Trust me, he's a turnstile, and it won't be long before they try him at guard.
The bad thing is he wasn't that much better there either.

Like I said it could pan out and it might not pan out. Time will tell

[Non_Sequitur]

I like this trade for both teams.

The Eagles pick up a veteran LB to cover for their young guys who can't be relied on yet.

The Bills are obviously in rebuilding mode so they get a conditional draft pick out of it.

And both teams traded trash as far as Walker and Holcomb are concerned. Neither team was probably going to keep either player.

[skinzzfan25]

Not bad of a deal. At best your loosing camp fodder with that 7th or 8th round pick. Might as well make it somewhat useful.

[Lee Evans83]

Granted he's available at 12...

Yea those damn 9er's got me worried....hopefully they go Carricker

[Flyboy]

I see them going Carriker or Alan Branch, but that's just me. I think the Bills biggest worry is the Lions because I really think if they get a favorable deal to trade down then Wills will be their selection.

[princefielder28]

A much needed move for both teams but I'm not sure I can crown a winner yet; it all depends on if Spikes can recover

[255979119]

So basically Bills traded Spikes for Walker.....

I would have rathered a 5th round pick over that lazy lump.

[cunningham06]

A much needed move for both teams but I'm not sure I can crown a winner yet; it all depends on if Spikes can recover

True Walker could improve in Buffalo, but the Eagles can't really lose here. Not saying that Buffalo won't benefit though. We got rid of a guy we were going to try to move anyway, or end up cutting. If we didn't deal him now we probably would have ended up trading him for a second day draft pick 4th or 5th round on draft day. Getting rid of him frees up the starting job at DT so Bunkley can step in, so honestly I am glad Walkers gone, we got someone for it who probably isn't a bigger gamble than most of the second day draft picks.

[YAYareaRB]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.

Wooooowwwww.. That's alot of Red Blocks..

Good deal for the Eagles. Holcomb is a pretty adequate and available back-up. Patterson is going to step up in the #1 spot for Philly. Spikes can play just about anywhere amongst the LBs. The deal wasn't exactly a step forward for the Bills.. But, I guess

[LonghornsLegend]

well i give the bills this, they did open up alot of space, and it may be a down year, but im pretty sure they are reloading to go spending crazy next off-season, im sure they will have the money to do it, although i think they could of gotten a little more/higher draft picks for all the players they traded....


i mean takeo spikes for a 7th rder? he's not what he used to be, but your basically making the eagles better, so you have the upper hand, id like to think he could tender a 5th maybe considering he still has pro bowl caliber...


either way good job for the eagles, i still disagree with scott and say stallworth would do them better with brown then curtis, but overall they have done a nice job so far, they probably will be the front runner for the division

[Geo]

The Bills acquired a reasonably cheap veteran DT presence in Walker who, along with Tripplett, can help mold the young DTs they have in McCargo and Williams. The Eagles acquired TKO who, if healthy, is a great veteran LB on any roster for the two years remaining on his somewhat pricey contract.

I'd probably give the edge to the Eagles, because of how much I like TKO, but this trade likely works out well for both teams in the long run.

[locseti]

What the hell? Darwin Walker is a bum.

[toonsterwu]

My take on the deal:

In terms of "trade value", I think the Eagles come out ahead. Takeo Spikes is still a decent-solid LB, and Holcomb is a serviceable backup. Walker's a decent tackle, and eh, while there's always a chance the pick brings forth a Marques Colston (or heck, getting a Jim Finn would be fine), the betting money is against that.

Now, for the two teams -

Let's not be too hasty to knock the Bills on this deal. I think it's a prudent move. There seems to be an idea that dealing veteran "leaders" off is deterimental. While I'm sure it hurts, all in all, I don't see it as a big deal. Teams deal with it, guys step up. That's the nature of it.

From a personnel perspective, I think Walker is a nice fit in a rotation. He'll be able to anchor against the run a bit better than some of their current guys, which should help the overall defense. This likely removes DT as a top focus for them. I think moving Holcomb out is a good thing. Why? Outside of the lack of fit, Holcomb was a veteran that had been in the locker room for awhile. He had some support, due to previous seasons. Losman has finally taken the reigns, and getting another backup, someone with less locker room traction, makes more sense. Losing Holcomb won't hurt their overall success.

So, the big issue is at LB? For all their losses, their LB'ing situation is not that bad. Ellison made a positive impression, and Crowell will have the weak or mike spot. Yes, they need bodies, but the situation isn't that bad, and an Ellison/Crowell/SLB trio might be fine. Now that being said, I don't see them going into the year with that situation, and they'll find someone at weak or mike. I'm just trying to make the point that, despite the losses, they aren't in dire straits at the spot.

One last area for the Bills involves the draft. It does seem that for their first rounder, while I think they should go Lynch, that they are perhaps leaning more LB there, with Willis and potentially, Posluszny, working their way up. While I don't like it, there seems to be a growing thought that Willis could go much earlier, so I wouldn't lock in Willis and Buffalo just yet.

The Eagles get an intriguing return. Holcomb is eh ... provides depth and someone that can be a reliever, perhaps a better relief option than Feeley. But this deal is about Walker and it's about Spikes. Takeo potentially gives them a solid SLB, buying time for Chris Gocong to develop. He adds leadership, but perhaps more importantly, he adds some size.

The loss of Walker forces Bunkley, or someone, to step up. Their DL's POA play last year wasn't pretty and hurt the back 7. That said, Walker was likely being phased out anyways, and it wouldn't surprise anyone in the least to see them add a couple DL talents in this draft anyways.

For the draft, I think this takes LB off the board for them in the first round. The focus goes on the DL and S now as the top two areas. Their MO has always been to add LB talent later, and with Spikes, Gocong, Trotter, Gaither, McCoy in tow, I think LB is off the board in the first.

[eaglesalltheway]

As do I. We are either going to go safety (major need) or DE, CB, or TE if we are unable to sign LJ next year. We may still go LB if a guy falls or the main safeties are off the board.

[WinslowBodden]

Are you kidding? Eagles fans are the craziest fans in the world. THey will all come in and start saying what a great signing it is and all that crap.

No, Eagles fans are the MEANEST in the world... They believe the reason Bentley tore his knee up was karma for not signing with the Eagles... Having said that I love their forums, they love football as much as any city in America.

[bsaza2358]

No, Eagles fans are the MEANEST in the world... They believe the reason Bentley tore his knee up was karma for not signing with the Eagles... Having said that I love their forums, they love football as much as any city in America.

Who ever said that about Bentley? Anyone who says or believes that is a moron and a douche. I would slap any person who said that ever.

[bsaza2358]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.

TNew, notice that none of what you predicted came true. No one came on this thread or this forum and started bragging about how Spikes is a Pro Bowler, etc. Spikes WAS an all-pro talent prior to his Achilles injury. He had a decent year last season, but he was still recovering, and the Bills DLine was not fantastic. Unfortunately, you could also argue that the Eagles have a similar situation with their front 4. If they can get a bigger NT type player to shield the LB's, the Spikes-Trotter-Gaither combo can flow to the ball and make stuff happen. That is all.

[portermvp84]

I like the trade, I think the Eagles got the better end of the deal.

[bigbluedefense]

The Eagles don't give up much considering their dline rotation and get what could be a steal if Spikes could recover fully. If not, big deal, they didn't give up much for him. Good move.

[bills_red]

True Walker could improve in Buffalo, but the Eagles can't really lose here. Not saying that Buffalo won't benefit though. We got rid of a guy we were going to try to move anyway, or end up cutting. If we didn't deal him now we probably would have ended up trading him for a second day draft pick 4th or 5th round on draft day. Getting rid of him frees up the starting job at DT so Bunkley can step in, so honestly I am glad Walkers gone, we got someone for it who probably isn't a bigger gamble than most of the second day draft picks.

And we got rid of 2 guy's that we might have cut.

[bsaza2358]

bills red, basically you traded 2 cuttable players (1 with decent value) to the Eagles for an aging DT with a laziness problem who was likely to be cut and a conditional 7th rounder next year. Even with the salary cap boost, it seems like the Bills are a little behind on this deal.

[bills_red]

bills red, basically you traded 2 cuttable players (1 with decent value) to the Eagles for an aging DT with a laziness problem who was likely to be cut and a conditional 7th rounder next year. Even with the salary cap boost, it seems like the Bills are a little behind on this deal.

not saying it was a good trade just it makes sence for both teams.
Time will tell.

Of couse you will say he sucks his not on your team anymore

[Splat]

LMAO. Spike is just an average player now with his torn Achilles. He is nothing special. He is just an average player, so ehhh, whatever. It is a good DEAL for the Eagles, but not like it really makes there team any better.

I want to see how many Eagles fans come and start bragging about it and saying he is a pro-bowler and makes them so much better.

Even with out your name and Sig I new this was coming from a Boys fan.

[eaglesalltheway]

Even with out your name and Sig I new this was coming from a Boys fan.

I've learned to ignore him, unless he says something completely idiotic, which is basically everything he posts, so in actuality, it is impossible to ignore TNewFan41.

[Salami]

Levy isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a deal, he isn't afraid to do deals that help both teams, he isn't afraid of criticism and second guessing, and he isn't afraid of evaluating talent differently than everyone else. To me, that is the sign of a great GM. Every move might not pan out, but I feel that the franchise is in the best shape it has been in in 8 to 10 years.

[bills_red]

http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=62114

"I post over at a gaming forum called Maddenplanet.com

Anyway there is an Eagles fan that I respect and have known for a long time. He really thinks Walker is going to go nuts in our style of defense. He said that he goes balls to the wall when he is in there. Says that he has very powerful hands and upper body strenght so don't be down that he is under the 300lb mark. He can hold his own. Thats why he was only showing up for half a game because the Eagles don't rotate in and out and Walker was out there for the whole game almost.
But he said with our rotational system Walker should be a stud.

The interesting thing is that he said he is VERY SMART. Could be why he caught Marvs attention. My buddy says that Walker belongs to an Engineering Firm. I thought that was kind of cool.

So it sounds like not only does he give full effort all the time, he is also smart and and a powerful player that uses his hands well."

[BuffaloDraftGeek]

Eagles got a deal. Walker sucked, he was lousy against the run. Spikes could play all three positions and let Trotter get off the field on 3rd down.
You do realize spikes was on the bench on 3rd downs last year, right? He was a huge liability this past season, not an asset.

[cunningham06]

not saying it was a good trade just it makes sence for both teams.
Time will tell.

Of couse you will say he sucks his not on your team anymore

Here is a direct quote from myself in the Eagles team forum while we still had Walker after getting Montae Reagor:

"This probably does mean we are getting rid of Walker. Good riddance he is awful vs. the run. Montae Reagor is a good pass rusher and will be a good rotational player for us. I seriously doubt that we get rid of Rayburn. If we can use him effectively like we did in 2004, he is a valuable piece of our D Line. He has the best bull-rush as well. We didn't pick up Reagor to replace a strong DT who is pretty good against the run with another situational pass rusher."

I'm not the kind to talk up our players while they are on our team and then bash them when they're gone. If anything I have spoken positively about Walker in this thread.

[jkpigskin]

great trade by the eagles...

so whose left on the bills? they let go of their 3 best players....

[bills_red]

great trade by the eagles...

so whose left on the bills? they let go of their 3 best players....


Nate top 3 yes
TKO top 3 no
LFB top 3 maybe
Willis top 3 no

Crowell better than TKO at LB and right there with LFB.
Willis avg. 3.8 a carry.

Top 3 Bills players were Nate, Evans, Peters. So we got rid of one in my mind.

[D-Unit]

Not happy about this one bit. Spikes is a terrific player even at this age. If he stays healthy, the Eagles will remain one of the tougher teams to beat in the league... and especially tough for the Cowboys. ...and they are excellent drafters. :(

[SuperMcgee]

great trade by the eagles...

so whose left on the bills? they let go of their 3 best players....

Moorman, Evans, and Peters are still here...

(I'll give you Clements. Either of the LB are close, but Crowell surpassed both)

[BuffaloDraftGeek]

great trade by the eagles...

so whose left on the bills? they let go of their 3 best players....

You insane? Their top 3 players last year were Schobel, Clements, and Evans, only one of them was lost. They let go of one big mouth, two over-rated liabilities, and one really good corner.

[BuffaloDraftGeek]

Not happy about this one bit. Spikes is a terrific player even at this age. If he stays healthy, the Eagles will remain one of the tougher teams to beat in the league... and especially tough for the Cowboys. ...and they are excellent drafters. :(
Obviously you didn't see spikes get run over by travis henry half a dozen times in one game. Or maybe you didn't see him get burnt on passing plays to the point he was completely taken out of 3rd down equations.