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Ness
12-07-2011, 05:04 AM
How many of these are there? The one that I think of immediately is Jackie Smith, long time tight end for the St.Louis Cardinals and then Dallas Cowboys. I'm sure you folks know what I'm talking about when I say his name. The catch he didn't make in the Super Bowl that hit him right in the chest in the endzone and there wasn't a defender close to him.

Another one I think of is Roger Craig. I don't think this was quite as damaging because he had already won three Super Bowls and did a lot for the 49ers. However, the fumble against the Giants during the 1990-1991 playoffs was brutal since it killed any chance for the 49ers to have a three-peat, and in my opinion that's the closest team that could have pulled it off (although Montana wouldn't have been able to play the next game).

The last one off the top of my head is Jim Everett. A lot of folks probably think of the game against the 49ers in the playoffs where he went down to the turf as if he was going to get sacked and there wasn't a defender near him. After that he was never really the same, apparently.

TheFinisher
12-07-2011, 07:18 AM
Romo and the fumbled FG snap in Seattle. That jumpstarted his choker label and it's really the first thing that comes to most people's minds when they think of Tony Romo.

Ness
12-07-2011, 07:27 AM
Oh and how the hell could I forget Scott Norwood. That should have been the first one to come to mind. Poor guy. I really hope he's never google searched his name in the images tab.

JHL6719
12-07-2011, 07:28 AM
Scott Norwood's missed 47 yard field goal in the superbowl was the first thing that popped into my mind. He was an All-Pro kicker just a few seasons prior.



EDIT: We must've been typing at the same time....haha.

JHL6719
12-07-2011, 07:32 AM
Ernest Byner's fumble against the Broncos also comes to mind.

Ness
12-07-2011, 07:36 AM
Ernest Byner's fumble against the Broncos also comes to mind.
His legacy is kind of tarnished to me, because he did win a Super Bowl with the Redskins a few years later and had a Pro Bowl season doing it. That should have gotten him some solace.

Sloopy
12-07-2011, 09:16 AM
I gotta go with Jim Marshall's wrong way run here.

Grizzlegom
12-07-2011, 09:19 AM
http://www.fearedandloathed.com/Images/leon.jpg

http://www.lobshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/leon-lett.jpg

eltwentyone
12-07-2011, 01:46 PM
Daunte Culpepper Knee injury, who know what could have happened when he was healthy, he was considered top 5 qb at the time.

Mcnabb Redskin and Viking season, whatta chump

WMD
12-07-2011, 02:01 PM
Ray Finkle missing the FG in Superbowl 17.. though I blame Dan Marino for not holding it with the laces out.

Ness
12-07-2011, 02:47 PM
Daunte Culpepper Knee injury, who know what could have happened when he was healthy, he was considered top 5 qb at the time.

Culpepper started playing terrible before his knee injury though.

eltwentyone
12-07-2011, 02:51 PM
Culpepper started playing terrible before his knee injury though.


yeah well you could say that season 2005, thats when scott linehan left and no moss

Raiderz4Life
12-07-2011, 02:53 PM
Ray Finkle missing the FG in Superbowl 17.. though I blame Dan Marino for not holding it with the laces out.

Dude went crazy..went full on dragged and kidnapped Marino and Snowflake...that right there is more than enough to tarnish a rep

TitanHope
12-07-2011, 03:23 PM
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CC.SD
12-07-2011, 04:14 PM
How about Haynesworth smushing Gurode?

no bare feet
12-07-2011, 04:20 PM
This moment, as quoted by wiki, may be one of the biggest reasons a player with the following stats is not in the HOF. HE is def deserved of the Hall of Very Good.
Rushing yards 10,643
Average 4.1
Receiving yards 4,248
Receiving Average 9.1
Rushing Touchdowns 78
Receiving Touchdowns 13

7 Seasons of 1500 yards from scrimamge or more.

Ricky Watters joined the Philadelphia Eagles in 1995 as a free agent. He gained notoriety in Philadelphia for his infamous line "For who? For what?" after his first game as an Eagle on September 3, 1995 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, when he "short armed" a pass to avoid contact in a 21-6 loss.

phlysac
12-07-2011, 04:32 PM
http://z.hubpages.com/u/240962_f260.jpg

Ray Wersching


Noone ever mentions it, but he missed a game-tying FG as time expired against the Steelers in 1984.

It was the only loss the team had that year. Everyone talks about the 2007 Patriots and the 1985 Bears, but the 1984 49ers were a missed FG away from perfection.

Ness
12-07-2011, 04:34 PM
If Ricky Watters kept his mouth shut he probably would have been in the Hall of Fame by now. I wish he stayed with the 49ers, but he wanted the ball more. He definitely delivered though and has the numbers to back it up. But his attitude tarnished his legacy a little bit. I feel the same thing will happen to Terrell Owens.

Ness
12-07-2011, 04:37 PM
http://z.hubpages.com/u/240962_f260.jpg

Ray Wersching


Noone ever mentions it, but he missed a game-tying FG as time expired against the Steelers in 1984.

It was the only loss the team had that year. Everyone talks about the 2007 Patriots and the 1985 Bears, but the 1984 49ers were a missed FG away from perfection.
Do people really remember him for that though? At the time no one probably thought the 49ers would go undefeated and it was the middle of the season. It wasn't like a playoff game or anything like that. The 49ers end up winning the Super Bowl anyways that year. And if memory serves me correct a line judge apparently made a terrible call on Eric Wright when he deflected a pass to John Stallworth to end a drive. The official called pass interference.

I think a lot of people remember Ray for his four field goals in the first Super Bowl the 49ers won.

ElectricEye
12-07-2011, 04:43 PM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6484/samuelsnopickqw9.png


This one will be remembered forever around here, even though it wasn't the easiest play in the world.

phlysac
12-07-2011, 04:44 PM
Do people really remember him for that though? At the time no one probably thought the 49ers would go undefeated and it was the middle of the season. It wasn't like a playoff game or anything like that. The 49ers end up winning the Super Bowl anyways that year. And if memory serves me correct a line judge apparently made a terrible call on Eric Wright when he deflected a pass to John Stallworth to end a drive. The official called pass interference.

I think a lot of people remember Ray for his four field goals in the first Super Bowl the 49ers won.

I don't disagree, and he was a great kicker who maintained a good reputation. I just took the opportunity to list a player that "I" feel differently about. Unjustly, yes, but as each season passes and "undefeated" gets more-and-more publicity, my feelings towards that kick inflame.

BRAVEHEART
12-07-2011, 04:46 PM
http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/images/players/mike_vanderjagt01.jpg

Literally fell off of the face of the earth after this game.

Giantsfan1080
12-07-2011, 04:48 PM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6484/samuelsnopickqw9.png


This one will be remembered forever around here, even though it wasn't the easiest play in the world.

It would have been difficult for him to get both feet in bounds also.

Prowler
12-07-2011, 04:52 PM
http://mit.zenfs.com/209/2011/09/ochocinco-drop-11.jpg

jth1331
12-07-2011, 04:53 PM
http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/images/players/mike_vanderjagt01.jpg

Literally fell off of the face of the earth after this game.

Good lord did he ever, and he missed that kick BAD. Not even remotely close.

BaLLiN
12-07-2011, 05:18 PM
http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/images/players/mike_vanderjagt01.jpg

Literally fell off of the face of the earth after this game.

yes, that was a big one. Announcers jynxed him saying he had highest percentage field goal succes over his career.

Prowler
12-07-2011, 05:34 PM
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How about a hilarious Randy Moss ruining Joe Buck for me?

Prowler
12-07-2011, 05:41 PM
http://arrowheadaddict.com/files/2007/07/priest_holmes.jpg

being killed by

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/_photos/2006-04-19-merriman2.jpg

Babylon
12-07-2011, 05:46 PM
I guess Ray Finkle's missed FG doesn't qualify.

Some that stuck with me:

Chuck Bednarik leveling Frank Gifford.

Jack Tatum's hit on Daryl Stingley

Buddy Ryan punching assistant coach. (what an ###hole)

Basileus777
12-07-2011, 05:51 PM
being killed by



This doesn't fit the topic at all. Getting injured late in his career in no way tarnished how people think of Priest Holmes.

Prowler
12-07-2011, 05:59 PM
it'll keep him from hall of fame

Basileus777
12-07-2011, 06:05 PM
it'll keep him from hall of fame

Holmes wasn't going to the HOF anyway, he was at the end of his career and no longer the back he used to be. He could have taken some more carries from Larry Johnson over the next few years if he was healthy, but that wouldn't have done anything for his HOF resume.

Prowler
12-07-2011, 06:11 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WAi2txkagVM/SM-KVAe7eLI/AAAAAAAACiw/p7cCCzKWSaY/s400/donovan_mcnabb_superbowl.jpg

Choking, weazing, not knowing how much time was on the clock in the biggest game of his career...

I liked him and made excuses for McNabb until that game. He lost respect, hall of fame shot, etc after that game. He's had plenty of other instances of choking, but this was the biggest. Next season was full of injuries and then benchings in later ones.

Ness
12-07-2011, 06:29 PM
http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/images/players/mike_vanderjagt01.jpg

Literally fell off of the face of the earth after this game.

He had already missed high pressure kicks in big games before that. Like in the wild card against the Dolphins in 2000, or The Monday Night game against the Patriots in 2004 during opening week. Vandgerjagt was a good kicker for quite a few years except when it really, really mattered.

Ness
12-07-2011, 06:32 PM
Guess you can add Gary Anderson to the list. Didn't miss a field goal all season during 1998, and then missed a crucial one against the Falcons in the NFC Championship game. And I think that one was only 39 yards.

wogitalia
12-07-2011, 08:19 PM
Prowler beat me to it. McNabb spewing in the huddle was the first thing I thought of for this.

Brett Favre's whole career was tarnished by the way he ended things and that whole long moment.

shylo3716
12-07-2011, 08:19 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WAi2txkagVM/SM-KVAe7eLI/AAAAAAAACiw/p7cCCzKWSaY/s400/donovan_mcnabb_superbowl.jpg

Choking, weazing, not knowing how much time was on the clock in the biggest game of his career...

I liked him and made excuses for McNabb until that game. He lost respect, hall of fame shot, etc after that game. He's had plenty of other instances of choking, but this was the biggest. Next season was full of injuries and then benchings in later ones.

McNabb = Willie Beamen!!!!

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE4NjA2MjU5MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwMjMwMTc3._V1._ SX640_SY640_.jpg

JHL6719
12-08-2011, 12:21 PM
Okoye was never the same after this hit by Atwater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPxzQBIafo

SFbear
12-08-2011, 02:44 PM
http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/images/players/mike_vanderjagt01.jpg

Literally fell off of the face of the earth after this game.

I remember reading that he told Peyton to aim for the endzone and end the game on the next couple downs and not bother getting any closer because it was already a chip shot for him at that point. Yikes.

soybean
12-08-2011, 02:50 PM
Not necessarily a play but TO will always be remembered for being a head case and difficult rather than the dominant WR he is or was.

BTW, I loved the whole TO vs. the Dallas Cowboys scene, one of the most memorable NFL moments in history.

Ness
12-09-2011, 03:29 AM
I gotta go with Jim Marshall's wrong way run here.

Yeah I can't believe that didn't come to mind first either. I think they still won that game didn't they?

Anyways, I thought I might add Dan Orlovsky to this list.

http://www.pyromaniac.com/teams/images/houston-texans/orlovsky1.jpg

Oh and maybe Aaron Brooks and his backwards pass in 2004. Too bad Brooks didn't have the mental fortitude to match his athleticism. I always thought he threw a pretty ball.

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Brent
12-09-2011, 05:43 AM
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BradysKnee
12-09-2011, 06:39 AM
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6484/samuelsnopickqw9.png


This one will be remembered forever around here, even though it wasn't the easiest play in the world.

Easily my most loathed patriots player for that moment.

Nalej
12-11-2011, 04:45 PM
Bill Buckner

marty264
12-11-2011, 04:52 PM
Yeah I can't believe that didn't come to mind first either. I think they still won that game didn't they?

After the wrong way, Jim Marshall forced a fumble which Carl Eller returned 45 yards to score the game winning touchdown. No one remembers that one, though haha.

Dallas357
12-11-2011, 04:53 PM
How about Haynesworth smushing Gurode?

lol at this guy not knowing football. haynesworth is a pos. but his best seasons were 07 and 08. gurode happened 06

Razor
12-11-2011, 04:54 PM
lol at this guy not knowing football. haynesworth is a pos. but his best seasons were 07 and 08. gurode happened 06

lol at you for not getting the point of this thread.

Caulibflower
12-11-2011, 05:39 PM
The fact that this isn't a Favre thread might tell you how much people are sick of his ****, and just don't even want to talk about him anymore. But the dong shots were pretty bad.