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Ness
12-19-2011, 05:08 AM
There were a lot of bad starters in the 2000's (just to be clear 2000-2009), but there were some that stuck around for quite some time. I used 48 starts as a jumping point (sorry for the title error), which is about 3 years.

I'd probably put Alex Smith, but he hasn't had that many starts yet. Kerry Collins is a guy I think of along with Joey Harrington, David Carr, and then Aaron Brooks.

Basileus777
12-19-2011, 05:17 AM
64 starts eliminates the worst of the worst. Other than the ones you mentioned, David Carr and Joey Harrington come to mind. I think Boller is short of the cutoff mark, Testaverde might qualify though. Plummer had those 2 decent years in Denver, otherwise he'd be up there.

Ness
12-19-2011, 05:24 AM
Yeah I changed to 48 after more time to think about it.

Can a moderator make the change in the title? From 64 to 48?

MetSox17
12-19-2011, 05:36 AM
I was hoping you'd have a list of guys with 48 starts cause i'm not about to rack my brain wondering who has started at least that many games. Mark Sanchez is creeping his way up there, sadly. I'm a big fan of his.

Santonio10
12-19-2011, 06:14 AM
There were a lot of bad starters in the 2000's (just to be clear 2000-2009), but there were some that stuck around for quite some time. I used 48 starts as a jumping point (sorry for the title error), which is about 3 years.

I'd probably put Alex Smith, but he hasn't had that many starts yet. Kerry Collins is a guy I think of along with Joey Harrington, David Carr, and then Aaron Brooks.

I agree with you on Harrington, Carr and Brooks. However I disagree with Collins. I know he hasn't been great, but in his defense, he is in the top 10 in NFL history with over 40,000 passing yards. Also had more td's than int's. Impressive if you ask me!

Cudders
12-19-2011, 06:22 AM
Essentially, after eliminating the quarterbacks that don’t even belong in this discussion, you’re selecting one from the following list:

114 GS – Kerry Collins
100 GS – Daunte Culpepper
100 GS – Jake Plummer
94 GS – Jon Kitna
90 GS – Aaron Brooks
90 GS – Jake Delhomme
86 GS – Brad Johnson
79 GS – David Carr
76 GS – Joey Harrington
70 GS – Brian Griese
68 GS – Vinny Testaverde
62 GS – David Garrard
59 GS – Jay Fielder
52 GS – Jason Campbell
49 GS – Byron Leftwich
48 GS – Kyle Orton

Of the qualifiers, I think Harrington was the worst quarterback of the bunch. He just didn’t capitalize on his opportunities in the NFL and proved he wasn’t starter material. I know a lot of people feel that Mariucci ruined him, but he still had the power to execute on the things he controlled and he didn’t. During his entire career, he was a quarterback with fragile confidence and an erratic arm, which isn’t a winning combination. There are a lot of overwhelmingly mediocre options on that list though.

Caddy
12-19-2011, 06:41 AM
Essentially, after eliminating the quarterbacks that don’t even belong in this discussion, you’re selecting one from the following list:

114 GS – Kerry Collins
100 GS – Daunte Culpepper
100 GS – Jake Plummer
94 GS – Jon Kitna
90 GS – Aaron Brooks
90 GS – Jake Delhomme
86 GS – Brad Johnson
79 GS – David Carr
76 GS – Joey Harrington
70 GS – Brian Griese
68 GS – Vinny Testaverde
62 GS – David Garrard
59 GS – Jay Fielder
52 GS – Jason Campbell
49 GS – Byron Leftwich
48 GS – Kyle Orton

Of the qualifiers, I think Harrington was the worst quarterback of the bunch. He just didn’t capitalize on his opportunities in the NFL and proved he wasn’t starter material. I know a lot of people feel that Mariucci ruined him, but he still had the power to execute on the things he controlled and he didn’t. During his entire career, he was a quarterback with fragile confidence and an erratic arm, which isn’t a winning combination. There are a lot of overwhelmingly mediocre options on that list though.

Take that champion off your list!

TheBoyWonder22
12-19-2011, 07:09 AM
Are you guys just not counting Plummer's years in Arizona? He was almost always serviceable, save his last couple tears. He and Collins should be removed from conversation.

J-Mike88
12-19-2011, 07:35 AM
I agree with you on Harrington, Carr and Brooks. However I disagree with Collins. I know he hasn't been great, but in his defense, he is in the top 10 in NFL history with over 40,000 passing yards. Also had more td's than int's. Impressive if you ask me!
Yeah Kerry Collins is nowhere near worthy of being mentioned as the worst of there.

Joey Harrington looks like a landslide winner here.

boknows34
12-19-2011, 07:51 AM
There were 38 QBs who started at least 48 games from 2000-2009 and only one had a QB rating of less than 70.... Joey Harrington.

http://pfref.com/tiny/FpIHm

I did the same for the 1990s and funnily enough there were also 38 QBs who met the criteria with Rick Mirer having the lowest QB rating (63.1)

http://pfref.com/tiny/UyM6P

StickSkills
12-19-2011, 08:06 AM
Yeah Kerry Collins is nowhere near worthy of being mentioned as the worst of there.

Joey Harrington looks like a landslide winner here.
Yeah and since we're talking 2000-2009, Collins was the starting QB for the NYG in the 2000 Super Bowl. The Ravens won with Trent Dilfer though.

Ness
12-19-2011, 01:41 PM
I agree with you on Harrington, Carr and Brooks. However I disagree with Collins. I know he hasn't been great, but in his defense, he is in the top 10 in NFL history with over 40,000 passing yards. Also had more td's than int's. Impressive if you ask me!

He had two good years with the Giants if I recall. I thought he would actually work out with the Raiders. After that stint though he just got worse it seemed and looked really bad in Tennessee.

Brent
12-19-2011, 04:27 PM
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this is pretty funny in hindsight.

diabsoule
12-19-2011, 04:31 PM
Harrington or Fiedler

Rosebud
12-19-2011, 05:07 PM
Harrington or Fiedler

Carr deserves some mentions as well. Turning into a mediocre backup doesn't whip away what an awful starter he was.