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Borat
01-16-2012, 02:21 AM
NFC Divisional Playoffs:
Sunday, January 22, 2012

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002398055/2939351797_Nfc_championship2005_xlarge.gif

New York Giants (11-7)
at
San Francisco 49ers (14-3)

Location: "The Stick"
http://www.csnbayarea.com/common/medialib/223/640788.jpg

Time: 3:30 pm pst


Holy ****! I mean seriously, ... HOLY ****! We're in the freaking NFC Championship Game? And it's at home? And we're the opening line favorite (-2.5)? Unbelievable.

So proud of this team. They took on one of the greatest offenses of all time and they pulled it out. Just an incredible performance.

But now it's over.

The Giants just did the same thing but they did it AT Green Bay. Very impressive. They're getting a lot of early love from the media and so be it. They've looked very good in back to back games. They are scary.

This is not easy to defend:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/64/fullj.7b146860d8739e2a6a1db0319c29b405/7b146860d8739e2a6a1db0319c29b405-getty-133715122.jpg

Especially with this
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2012/writers/damon_hack/01/15/giants.packers/eli-manning.jpg

I really hope the 9ers can establish a lot of this:

http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/01/14/19/00/139LU7.St.4.jpg

And also run this

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/wp-content/blogs.dir/2277/files/49ers-giants-week-10-highlights/44470a3d-2800-4777-9b71-a91a52ded74e.jpg

And what the hell ... some more of this:

http://davisenterprise.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/011549ersW.jpg

Will they be able to contain this
http://s.glbimg.com/es/ge/f/620x470/2012/01/14/vernondavis_get.jpg

Last time they didn't
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/788533/vernon2.gif

They'll be rocking this
http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/af/fullj.c81d2d705a5c6c165a6f1a4f6acf942b/c81d2d705a5c6c165a6f1a4f6acf942b-getty-136326428.jpg

And this
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.435727!/img/httpImage/image.jpg

Sigh. And this
http://ticketcoupon.net/wp-content/plugins/RSSPoster_PRO/cache/97e79_umenyiora.jpg

Their defense is going to be a much bigger challenge than the Saints.

But we've also got a good defense. Maybe you've heard about it. We've got a beast ...

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2012/01/15/Victory-turns-to-misery-for-Saints-G2RF24D-x-large.jpg

An animal ...
http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2012/01/14/18/40/19pgqJ.St.4.jpg

A hawk ...

http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/p/sp/getty/51/fullj.a3da997916f0bf94c6230bd3ddaa215f/a3da997916f0bf94c6230bd3ddaa215f-getty-137035063.jpg

And a God ...

http://www.news10.net/images/640/360/2/assetpool/images/120112095028_PATRICK_WILLIS640.jpg

We might have a secret weapon returning as well ...

http://www.49ers.com/assets/images/news/2011/11-November/111611-Walker-Header.jpg
He's awaiting medical clearance today to play this week.

Now, I've heard some Giants fans say they want revenge for this

http://www.6magazineonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/jeff-garcia-tai-streets-matt-allen1.jpg

Screw that. I want revenge for this

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1004029.1326223504!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/image.jpg

And dammit, this

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1506615_o.gif

God, that is ridiculous to watch. Just soul crushing. That one play did major emotional damage to me. It was hard to get back into football the next year. Just devastating.

Of course, that game ended our bid to 3-peat and led to this

http://fatandyzvintage.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/275073671.jpg

And then this

http://www.tailgatingideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/scott_norwood.jpg

Should have been ours. Damn you Leonard Marshall.

Finally, it's a 3:30 pm start. Very weird start time. This game will be memorable, and it will start in daylight and end in nightlight. Could be visually spectacular.

60 minutes. Winner goes to the Super Bowl. HOLY ****!

Special Note: Even though we don't have to play the Packers, we just can't get away from those ridiculous cheeseheads.

http://joemontanasrightarm.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/bluecheesegiants.jpg

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-16-2012, 02:40 AM
Great hustle Borat. Crossing my fingers the 49ers can get Walker back for this game. Even though he hasn't been a factor in the passing game for the last few weeks it would be nice to give that red hot Giants defense one more wrinkle to worry about.

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1758039711/BeatTheGiants.jpg

Also props to the 49ers PR dept. for adding an NY in front of the Giants hashtag this time around.

Forecast calls for rain on Sunday.
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/San+Francisco+CA+USCA0987

Ness
01-16-2012, 02:53 AM
This is like a dream. One step away from the big show. And we're at home. Unbelievable. Regardless what happens from this point, this team has shown true resilience in the face of adversity and has gone beyond expectations. I didn't think it was possible at all, but they've proven skeptics like me wrong. Hopefully they can make it to the Super Bowl though. It's been way too long.

As for the Giants, even though we handled them last time, we didn't win by that much. We won the turnover battle by +1 and it still went down to the wire. Giants play well in big games, but it looks like we too have shown that same flair as well. A lot of our victories have been close and we're not used to just be ahead all the time.

Whatever happens, I just hope the 49ers put their heart and soul into it. It would nice for guys like Patrick Willis, Vernon Davis, Frank Gore, Andy Lee, Justin Smith, and Alex Smith to at least have a bite at the apple after all the crap they've been through. Especially Alex.

Ness
01-16-2012, 02:55 AM
Great hustle Borat. Crossing my fingers the 49ers can get Walker back for this game. Even though he hasn't been a factor in the passing game for the last few weeks it would be nice to give that red hot Giants defense one more wrinkle to worry about.

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1758039711/BeatTheGiants.jpg

Also props to the 49ers PR dept. for adding an NY in front of the Giants hashtag this time around.

Forecast calls for rain on Sunday.
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/San+Francisco+CA+USCA0987

How to Hashtags work on twitter? Are they even useful?

YAYareaRB
01-16-2012, 03:01 AM
How to Hashtags work on twitter? Are they even useful?

If its a popular topic, you can click on it and see what other people are saying about it. People who use it on facebook, however, are stupid

Verloren
01-16-2012, 03:03 AM
How to Hashtags work on twitter? Are they even useful?

You basically tag something with it and can click on the hashtag to search for things with the same one. Stuff like #Niners or #49ers.

Hoping we come out on top this game too.

49ers PR has been doing pretty good so far this postseason.

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406611_303275919709741_255397467830920_774142_9347 21432_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/393941_300299263340740_255397467830920_766503_2441 5931_n.jpg

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-16-2012, 03:06 AM
If its a popular topic, you can click on it and see what other people are saying about it. People who use it on facebook, however, are stupid

I add a hashtag (outside of twitter) just to make it easier for someone to understand that I am joking or being sarcastic. Agree it looks dumb but a lot of times (especially through facebook) people take it the wrong way.

Ness
01-16-2012, 03:27 AM
Just to recap hahaha. He even hates Drew Brees LOL.

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Madirishman
01-16-2012, 08:48 AM
Just to recap hahaha. He even hates Drew Brees LOL.

M6lJB7-iewo

Hahahaha. Dude is completely lost but it's funny.

I was enjoying the Niners ride; their apparent over-achieving; the fact that Harbaugh helped take a lot of talent and put it all together, making this team a consistent winner this season, but I didn't want to get my hopes up. My hopes are now up. They're one win away from the big game and a shot at #6. This team has proven that they belong; They are NO fluke. They didn't just ride a hot streak (like the Giants are on right now). They've been consistent and dominant in many aspects of the game and they are physically and mentally strong. They've earned the right to be in this position and I believe then can beat the Giants and move on to the big game and we all know what happens when the Niners play ion the Super Bowl - they win! This will be a fun week and I'm going to enjoy it. I'm confident that our 49ers will find a way to be victorious once again, doing whatever it takes to move on.

I hope Delanie comes back and gets 100+ yards and a TD as the Giants roll all their coverages to VD cause they're stuck on this last game's tape. If D-Walk plays, he'll get one on one chances for sure.

Brent
01-16-2012, 10:52 AM
So, we've all accepted Alex Smith, right?

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-16-2012, 11:33 AM
So, we've all accepted Alex Smith, right?

He didn't throw for 300 yards so comeback win is invalid. Imagine if we had Josh Johnson. :D

49erNation85
01-16-2012, 12:50 PM
So, we've all accepted Alex Smith, right?

After yesterdays game I yqve and love the kid sure he doesnt hqve the strong deep ball but our offense is not made for that . He's clutch and wins all that matters to me . I would love to see what he can do if we had a real deep threat wr besides VD.

Onto the game . I'm so stoked I hope we pull it off and kick the giants to the curb . Our denfesne just has to win the turn over battle .if we can so that we're going to show .

Love thread this so many good memories from years pass . It's been a long time coming. Alex smith and so does the rest of the team .... Good luck 49ers!!! You desrve this next and a super bowl spot !!! Roll on and god speed !

Giantsfan1080
01-16-2012, 02:00 PM
Hey guys looking forward to talking about this game with you all week. I'm super pumped up like all of you. Good luck!!

VAfy-ya
01-16-2012, 02:24 PM
So, we've all accepted Alex Smith, right?

You would think a couple of clutch throws and a dramatic playoff win would erase 6 years of fultility. I've been said he has earned the right to return and see if he can improve further on the strides he's made this year. Saturday's win only reaffirms that there is more good from Alex to come, the more time he is in this offense and the more time Jimbaugh has here to mold him. But I dont think everybody will accept him until he brings us Super Bowl # 6. I think alot fans feel like that's what he was drafted #1overall to do. Not saying that's right but I think alot fans mindset is to still not give him credit. I think some fans would blame Alex Smith for messing up our perfect record in SBs if we went there and lost. People just love to hate on the guy. There were ppl saying he should have stop short of the endzone on his TD run and knelt on the ball, forcing the Saints to waste their last timeout and use up more clock before we kicked the FG for the win. There's always going to be ppl that refuse to acknowledge any of the good his does for this team.

Brent
01-16-2012, 02:57 PM
He didn't throw for 300 yards so comeback win is invalid. Imagine if we had Josh Johnson. :D
299 yards, 3 passing TDs, and a rushing TD in a playoff game? WORTHLESS

Ness
01-16-2012, 03:34 PM
Ted Robinson's voice is a little cracked from Saturday's acton hahaha. Listening to him on KNBR's podcast.

Ness
01-16-2012, 03:37 PM
So, we've all accepted Alex Smith, right?

Yes. For the moment. I mean if he has like the worst game of his life Sunday...that will be a bad mark for him, but I was wrong about him. He's gotten better throughout the season and has come through when it mattered.

Brent
01-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Let me preface this by saying that I don't believe in jinxing games, but that said:

Surely, I am not the only one of you that feels like there is something special about this season. Even if we lose on Sunday, I cannot properly express how wonderful the last 19 weeks of Niners football has been. I was almost brought to tears of joy on Saturday. The last four minutes of that game were the craziest sports-induced emotional roller-coaster I've had to deal with in a long time (Okay, maybe just since the Giants' WS run). But, something about dealing with 9 years of absolute god-awful play made last week's game so ******* enjoyable that even watching the replay, I can feel the emotions coming back during that last drive. Even knowing how it plays out, to see it unfold is so goddamn wonderful.

Over these last few years, despite being raised a Cal fan and seeing Tedford's prodigal son go to a team I cannot stand, I've come to root for Alex Smith because he's just a likeable guy. Even if I've been, at times, proponent of his exit from San Francisco. Yet, something about that last drive made me not just happy as a fan of the 49ers, but so happy for a guy who wanted nothing more than to prove himself as a 49er, when he easily could have bailed and taken a nice gig as a back up in another city.

Win or lose this weekend, I can honestly say this is the most enjoyable 49er season since '94. I don't even care if they make it to the Super Bowl.

Well, I do want them to, but you know what I mean.

ViperVisor
01-16-2012, 10:39 PM
I expected some Kappy plays drew up last week. Not the Gore flea flicker throw like the John Wall ceremonial pitch.

Not likely to get a big play but when you use that wrinkle of a running QB play it seems like a sure gain for about 5 yards. Maybe leave Smith in the game as a WR.

Ness
01-16-2012, 11:15 PM
The Music City meltdown.


Oh and terrible last attempt by the Saints by attempting two forward passes.

dan77733
01-17-2012, 12:15 AM
I wasnt the biggest Alex Smith fan but I didnt hate him either but going through this season even before Sunday's classic win over the Saints, I was liking Smith more and more because you can see that he can play. He showed flashes in 2006 with Turner but then came crappy HC and OC year after year.

I always said that we needed to go back to basics in order to win and Harbaugh has done just that. I love his intensity and the fact that he's a perfectionist and that he doesnt care about the media and speaks his mind.

With all that said, Smith should definitely be brought back with a multi year deal. Regardless of what happens Sunday, Smith has shown that he can play good or great and lead us to a comeback win (twice in the same game). He just needed a HC who knew what he was doing and offensive based. Its funny, if we beat the Giants and win the SB, just imagine how we would have done with a full off-season. Probably would have went 19-0. LOL. :)

Either way, Smith should definitely be signed to a multi year deal. I'm just hoping that we can acquire a speed receiver to start opposite Crabtree. That would complete the offensive firepower. Then, resign Snyder while still trying to upgrade at RG and our offense will be set for years to come.

Go 49ers!!!!!

dan77733
01-17-2012, 12:19 AM
Just to recap hahaha. He even hates Drew Brees LOL.

M6lJB7-iewo

WOW!!! That was just too funny. I dont know why the guy is pissed about the Saints losing when he has a Colts poster on his wall of Reggie Wayne but whatever. Oh well. Haha.

YAYareaRB
01-17-2012, 01:00 AM
Reggie Wayne is from New Orleans? only thing i could come up with lol

dannyz
01-17-2012, 01:55 AM
I Hope the 49ERS Win it All. I don't have a Favorite NFL Team but I have always like the 49ERS and think Jim Harbaugh is a Great Coach. Who would you guys rather Play if We make it to the Super Bowl?

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-17-2012, 04:11 AM
WOW!!! That was just too funny. I dont know why the guy is pissed about the Saints losing when he has a Colts poster on his wall of Reggie Wayne but whatever. Oh well. Haha.

Read on the youtube comments that his wife is a Colts fan...sure. I just love that he still has his Baron Davis jersey hanging with pride while he bitches out former Super Bowl MVP Drew Brees. What a clown.

Ness
01-17-2012, 04:12 AM
Wow that guy has a wife?

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-17-2012, 04:14 AM
I Hope the 49ERS Win it All. I don't have a Favorite NFL Team but I have always like the 49ERS and think Jim Harbaugh is a Great Coach. Who would you guys rather Play if We make it to the Super Bowl?

Honestly I'm just following what Harbaugh preaches and taking it one game at a time (I talk like I'm actually playing Sunday, haha). But all my focus is on the Giants and not even thinking about the Super Bowl being one game away. I feel like I'm going to jinx them if I start picking out who they play in the Super bowl.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-17-2012, 04:15 AM
Wow that guy has a wife?

Sunday's must be hell for her. I wonder what happened when the Saints played the Colts a few Super Bowls ago? Would have loved to see that youtube video of his reaction.

Ness
01-17-2012, 04:20 AM
Oh, and I have one last question about Twitter. Is it worth having unless you are famous or something? Because I made one recently and I tried toying around with it following guys like Rich Eisen and Peter King and I'm guessing when you tweet something you can't see the message you sent to them. It says your tweet has been sent, but...I don't know, I just take satisfaction in seeing with my own eyes that the message I wrote is on their "wall" or something like on Facebook. I'm guessing guys like those have a bunch of followers so you might not get a reply...

VAfy-ya
01-17-2012, 04:20 AM
I Hope the 49ERS Win it All. I don't have a Favorite NFL Team but I have always like the 49ERS and think Jim Harbaugh is a Great Coach. Who would you guys rather Play if We make it to the Super Bowl?

I could care less. I just want to make it there. The G-Men are my focus at this point. Its hard to beat a very good team twice in one year. We have a tall task ahead of us on Sunday.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-17-2012, 04:30 AM
Oh, and I have one last question about Twitter. Is it worth having unless you are famous or something? Because I made one recently and I tried toying around with it following guys like Rich Eisen and Peter King and I'm guessing when you tweet something you can't see the message you sent to them. It says your tweet has been sent, but...I don't know, I just take satisfaction in seeing with my own eyes that the message I wrote is on their "wall" or something like on Facebook. I'm guessing guys like those have a bunch of followers so you might not get a reply...

I love twitter just for the stream of live updates. It is great to get all the updates throughout the day and how fast I can search things through twitter. If I hear about an injury or trade rumor I pop it into the search and usually a link to a blog pops up. Also I like using it for information on stuff outside of sports. I'm too lazy or ignorant, depending on who you ask, to keep up with CNN or news sites so what's trending helps me stay in the loop on certain matters. I've also won Warriors and Giants tickets through sites and 49ers players were giving out tickets to the playoff game in the last couple of weeks.

If you tweet someone like @ (insert user name) the message will show up on your profile (under view my page) and it will show up on that users mentions. It depends on who you tweet. Some people are active and reply and some don't. I usually try to follow people who at least interact with others. Hope this helped alittle.

Ness
01-17-2012, 04:48 AM
I love twitter just for the stream of live updates. It is great to get all the updates throughout the day and how fast I can search things through twitter. If I hear about an injury or trade rumor I pop it into the search and usually a link to a blog pops up. Also I like using it for information on stuff outside of sports. I'm too lazy or ignorant, depending on who you ask, to keep up with CNN or news sites so what's trending helps me stay in the loop on certain matters. I've also won Warriors and Giants tickets through sites and 49ers players were giving out tickets to the playoff game in the last couple of weeks.

If you tweet someone like @ (insert user name) the message will show up on your profile (under view my page) and it will show up on that users mentions. It depends on who you tweet. Some people are active and reply and some don't. I usually try to follow people who at least interact with others. Hope this helped alittle.
Well am I notified if someone replies? Because I just found my mentions section and I found a few replies, but I don't remember logging in and being notified about them. Of course I haven't logged in for about three weeks. Is it like Facebook when you log in and it's obvious that someone replied to you? Or do you always have to go to the mentions tab and assume some replied to your earlier message?

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-17-2012, 05:00 AM
Well am I notified if someone replies? Because I just found my mentions section and I found a few replies, but I don't remember logging in and being notified about them. Of course I haven't logged in for about three weeks. Is it like Facebook when you log in and it's obvious that someone replied to you? Or do you always have to go to the mentions tab and assume some replied to your earlier message?

It should notify you through the email that your twitter account is sync'd up to. Check your settings and go to notifications to see if the boxes are checked to allow DM and notifications to be sent to your email. And no twitter doesn't notify you like facebook if someone has message you. The moblie app version does but for some reason the website version doesn't. I would always go to my mentions to see if someone replied. If you follow a lot of people it is hard to keep track of people on your timeline.

Here is some 49ers talk for people who are annoyed by the twitter talk: The level Victor Cruz and Nicks have been playing at has me really concerned. They are like a steroided version of what Dallas has in Miles Austin and Dez Bryant. I also have been impressed with the trust level Eli has in his WR. He has done an impressive job the past few weeks of throwing balls up for grabs but putting them in spots where only his WR can get them. He really does a great job of taking advantage of the size of Cruz, Nicks, and Ballard.

Ness
01-17-2012, 05:15 AM
Speed receivers give us problems. Carlos Rogers had problems with Victor Cruz. We did a good job against New Orleans on deep passes except for that last second Graham bomb, but I can't think of any of their receivers that are true burners. I'm guessing either Henderson or Meachem would fit that mold, but I think Cruz is overall faster.

Ness
01-17-2012, 05:33 AM
Just listened to Jim Harbaugh's press pass. I think Matt Barrows, or another beat writer asked Jim Harbaugh about his own personal opportunity he had as a player in 1995 when they almost went to the Super Bowl being a member of the Colts. The reporter asked if he had told his team about that and how these chances may not always come back, he said he had talked to his team once about it, briefly. Harbaugh doesn't like to live in the past though and likes to look ahead.

I had forgot how Harbaugh hasn't gotten there either after being a player and getting close. It would be good for him to at least get there as a coach.

Madirishman
01-17-2012, 08:59 AM
I Hope the 49ERS Win it All. I don't have a Favorite NFL Team but I have always like the 49ERS and think Jim Harbaugh is a Great Coach. Who would you guys rather Play if We make it to the Super Bowl?

Here comes the bandwagon. At least people care about the Niners. HAHAHAHA

Madirishman
01-17-2012, 09:24 AM
Wow. It's only Tuesday and I'm already sick of the ridiculous East Coast media bias that's happening right now, talking about the Giants and giving them all the credit in the world for being "a hot team right now." These "anal-ysts" should know better than to jump on the "hot" team bandwagon cause the Niners have been hot all year! I don't want people in the media to believe in the Niners because they've been doubting all year, and it's been motivating Harbaugh & Co.; I just want them to get some credit for what they've accomplished so far. Looks like their work isn't done. They're not finished proving people wrong and they'll have to beat a team (again) that was 9-7 and barely sneaked into the postseason, who are now becoming over-confident and great candidates to get smacked in the mouth (again) by this 'Fysical' Niners squad.

abaddon41_80
01-17-2012, 09:29 AM
Not to mention that the Saints were way hotter than the Giants are, anyway.

VAfy-ya
01-17-2012, 11:40 AM
Wow. It's only Tuesday and I'm already sick of the ridiculous East Coast media bias that's happening right now, talking about the Giants and giving them all the credit in the world for being "a hot team right now." These "anal-ysts" should know better than to jump on the "hot" team bandwagon cause the Niners have been hot all year! I don't want people in the media to believe in the Niners because they've been doubting all year, and it's been motivating Harbaugh & Co.; I just want them to get some credit for what they've accomplished so far. Looks like their work isn't done. They're not finished proving people wrong and they'll have to beat a team (again) that was 9-7 and barely sneaked into the postseason, who are now becoming over-confident and great candidates to get smacked in the mouth (again) by this 'Fysical' Niners squad.

And I'm loving every minute of it. All the Giants fans I know personally are just SOOOOO confident. They havent been outright disrespectful, just real smug like we got this. Everybody's a world beater....then they play us. Its been a season long list of teams who were very cocky about they're fortunes against us. Tampa Bay and they're whole "West Coast Killerz" rhetoric. The Lions who were undefeated before we played them. The first Giants game when Justin Tuck was calling Alex a game manager. The Pittsburgh game because that would be the first "real" test of our season. The second Seattle game because they were red hot, fighting for a playoff spot, Pete Carroll, loudest stadium in the league, divison rival, yadda yadda yadda. And Saturday versus the greatest offense known to man. Its been our theme all year. If it aint broke, don't fix it. We relish shutting up opposing teams and fans. Tell them keep it coming....

VAfy-ya
01-17-2012, 11:43 AM
Wow. It's only Tuesday and I'm already sick of the ridiculous East Coast media bias that's happening right now, talking about the Giants and giving them all the credit in the world for being "a hot team right now." These "anal-ysts" should know better than to jump on the "hot" team bandwagon cause the Niners have been hot all year! I don't want people in the media to believe in the Niners because they've been doubting all year, and it's been motivating Harbaugh & Co.; I just want them to get some credit for what they've accomplished so far. Looks like their work isn't done. They're not finished proving people wrong and they'll have to beat a team (again) that was 9-7 and barely sneaked into the postseason, who are now becoming over-confident and great candidates to get smacked in the mouth (again) by this 'Fysical' Niners squad.

And I'm loving every minute of it. All the Giants fans I know personally are just SOOOOO confident. They havent been outright disrespectful, just real smug like we got this. Everybody's a world beater....then they play us. Its been a season long list of teams who were very cocky about they're fortunes against us. Tampa Bay and they're whole "West Coast Killerz" rhetoric. The Lions who were undefeated before we played them. The first Giants game when Justin Tuck was calling Alex a game manager. The Pittsburgh game because that would be the first "real" test of our season. The second Seattle game because they were red hot, fighting for a playoff spot, Pete Carroll, loudest stadium in the league, divison rival, yadda yadda yadda. And last Sunday versus the greatest offense known to man. Its been our theme all year. If it aint broke, don't fix it. We relish shutting up opposing teams, the media, and opposing fans. Tell them keep it coming....

Menardo75
01-17-2012, 03:37 PM
The media is always going to want the Giants in the Superbowl that's why every time I see the Niners beat and NFC East team it's extra sweet.

Ness
01-17-2012, 04:18 PM
And I'm loving every minute of it. All the Giants fans I know personally are just SOOOOO confident. They havent been outright disrespectful, just real smug like we got this. Everybody's a world beater....then they play us. Its been a season long list of teams who were very cocky about they're fortunes against us. Tampa Bay and they're whole "West Coast Killerz" rhetoric. The Lions who were undefeated before we played them. The first Giants game when Justin Tuck was calling Alex a game manager. The Pittsburgh game because that would be the first "real" test of our season. The second Seattle game because they were red hot, fighting for a playoff spot, Pete Carroll, loudest stadium in the league, divison rival, yadda yadda yadda. And Saturday versus the greatest offense known to man. Its been our theme all year. If it aint broke, don't fix it. We relish shutting up opposing teams and fans. Tell them keep it coming....

49ers defense was extra motivated in that Saints game.

Ness
01-17-2012, 04:19 PM
Justin Smith finally getting some face time. Nice article on SI.com:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ann_killion/01/17/justin.smith/index.html?sct=nfl_wr_a2

dannyz
01-17-2012, 09:00 PM
Here comes the bandwagon. At least people care about the Niners. HAHAHAHA

Not really. I follow my Favorite Players but If I had to pick a Team it would be 49ERS or Lions. I think Turnovers will play a Big Part of this game, The 49ERS beat the Saints with Turnovers. I can't wait for Sunday, I wanted the Giants to Beat the Packers because that would mean this game would be played in Candlestick rather than Lambeau.

Madirishman
01-17-2012, 11:35 PM
Not really. I follow my Favorite Players but If I had to pick a Team it would be 49ERS or Lions. I think Turnovers will play a Big Part of this game, The 49ERS beat the Saints with Turnovers. I can't wait for Sunday, I wanted the Giants to Beat the Packers because that would mean this game would be played in Candlestick rather than Lambeau.

Pick one! You're in the 49ers team forum, btw. :)

dannyz
01-17-2012, 11:56 PM
Pick one! You're in the 49ers team forum, btw. :)

It all depends on how is playing in what games. My Friends say the same thing, that I should pick a team and I keep telling them no. For the Next few Weeks I am a Huge 49ERS Fan. I would probably pick the 49ERS in every game and just have to watch when they play the Lions.

Ness
01-19-2012, 01:40 AM
So much media material on NFL.com. Seriously can't keep up.

phlysac
01-19-2012, 10:00 PM
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WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-20-2012, 01:39 AM
Saw this in Sports Authority today and I think it goes against Harbaugh's "Humble Hearts" theme.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/654/40692331106630830361158.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/40692331106630830361158.jpg/)

If they jinx SF, I will boycott (which I basically do anyway since they are pricey)

Ness
01-20-2012, 01:46 AM
I don't think retailers care about what Jim Harbaugh has to say. Like the media, they play by their own rules.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-20-2012, 01:57 AM
I don't think retailers care about what Jim Harbaugh has to say. Like the media, they play by their own rules.

Yeah was being sarcastic but it annoys me to see signs like this. Kinda enjoying the whole underdog angle. Things like this make me happy:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/features/writers/expert/picks

Ness
01-20-2012, 03:21 AM
Yeah was being sarcastic but it annoys me to see signs like this. Kinda enjoying the whole underdog angle. Things like this make me happy:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/features/writers/expert/picks

You might like this then:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks

I think a lot of people are picking Giants/Patriots, because that is the matchup they want to happen.

Giantsfan1080
01-20-2012, 08:21 AM
The ESPN SportsNation vote had 60% of the country choosing the 49'ers so I don't see this underdog mentality. It's a much larger sample size than the idiots they have at ESPN.

Madirishman
01-20-2012, 09:39 AM
Niners are not a betting underdog, but they are a home underdog as far as respect. I like it, as NY can be blown up by the media and praised relentlessly for their win vs the Packers, but that might have been their Super Bowl. Niners are still hungry and would love another shot at winning "HarBowl II!"

Ness
01-20-2012, 01:46 PM
Brent Jones goes on KNBR and is pumped up about the 49ers/Giants game. You guys should listen to this. It's about ten minutes.

http://www.knbr.com/portals/3/podcasts/murphmac/012012brentjones.mp3

Ness
01-20-2012, 03:31 PM
Oh and if the 49ers win this game, I don't want to hear "Oh Eli had a stomach bug" or "Oh Nicks ankle was messed up".

49erNation85
01-20-2012, 07:03 PM
One more long day before our game on Sunday . Just wish I did no have to work the closing sjift poo

Verloren
01-20-2012, 09:56 PM
...
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/san-francisco-49ers-fans-soft-compared-ny-giants-fans-bay-area-soft-compared-cold-york-city-article-1.1008943

Brent
01-20-2012, 11:46 PM
...
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/san-francisco-49ers-fans-soft-compared-ny-giants-fans-bay-area-soft-compared-cold-york-city-article-1.1008943
Saw this earlier today. Pretty sure it's meant in jest. Either way, it isnt all that funny.

Ness
01-21-2012, 03:35 AM
One more long day before our game on Sunday . Just wish I did no have to work the closing sjift poo

I was a lot more nervous about the game against the Saints than I was against this game. Winning the first playoff game I think is always the hardest thing to do. Hopefully the 49ers come through this Sunday. I'll definitely stay home and hope the good luck continues. As long as the 49ers give it their all, I can't be upset even if they lose.

dan77733
01-21-2012, 01:37 PM
^^^^

You BETTER stay HOME!!! LOL. :)

Joking aside, enjoy the game everyone. :)

Borat
01-21-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm heading up North in an hour to meet up with my friends and start the pre-party.

Oh yeah, since you're a little superstitious Dan, take comfort in this: The 9ers are 12-2 all time when I'm in the building.

Brent
01-21-2012, 06:50 PM
The 9ers are 12-2 all time when I'm in the building.
TWO? WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE THESE KINDS OF CHANCES!

Just kidding. Be safe, and try to stay relatively sober to remember the game.

binary
01-21-2012, 11:08 PM
This is gonna be epic, it's so ON right now. Not gonna sleep much tonight.

Brent
01-22-2012, 08:10 AM
This is gonna be epic, it's so ON right now. Not gonna sleep much tonight.
I slept maybe 4 hours last night. Yeah, I am a little anxious.

Verloren
01-22-2012, 08:51 AM
I slept maybe 4 hours last night. Yeah, I am a little anxious.

I think I'll have it worse. I wake up right when the game starts, or halfway through the game.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 09:08 AM
Happy to see I'm not the only one who didn't get much sleep. I got about 5 hours of sleep. Now I debate if I should take a nap later or commence drinking.

dan77733
01-22-2012, 10:47 AM
I got about 8 hours of sleep. I'm pumped for the game but win or lose, im just happy that we no longer suck and have a damn good coaching staff who know what they're doing.

If we win today, then I'll be nervous and anxious.

And dont know about others here but im cheering for the Ravens today too. Dont want the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

RAVENS and NINERS Harbowl II :)

Ness
01-22-2012, 12:40 PM
I have a bad feeling about the game. Hopefully the 49ers pull through though.


I happened to get a lot of sleep. Not nervous about this game like I was against the Saints. Still thought about it a lot though.

hawkeye123
01-22-2012, 12:43 PM
I slept for maybe a couple hours last night. I'm pumped.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 04:33 PM
Teddy Ginn out, Walker in:
49ers WRs for today's game: starters Michael Crabtree and Kyle Williams, and Brett Swain, Joe Hastings and, newly converted, Colin Jones.

Could see Jones fill Ginn's role on the fly sweeps.

thediggler3030
01-22-2012, 07:08 PM
Maybe its because he seems to be shadowing Victor Cruz, but nearly every reception is coming against Carlos Rodgers. Wondering if he is timid with the conditions. He looks BRUTAL though.

hawkeye123
01-22-2012, 07:09 PM
Can we please triple cover Cruz? He is killing us.

dan77733
01-22-2012, 07:18 PM
We need to put Culliver or Brown on Cruz. Whoever's faster should be the guy. Rogers should be on Nicks since Nicks is bigger, Rogers can be more physical. Cruz = speed.

And what a crappy game thus far. 49ers need to be more aggressive on offense, Davis needs to stop going nuts and we need to stop doing stupid gimmick plays like that reverse. That play took away all of our momentum. In the pouring rain, Harbaugh needs to stick top the basics and stop taking risks on stupid plays like that.

I dont mind throwing up a pass and it hets picked but that reverse is just unnecessary period. Ugh. Oh well, if we lose to the crappy Giants, it was still a damn good season and there's a lot of upside for us.

Arsenal
01-22-2012, 07:22 PM
I don't think it was Rogers really, he just tore up our zone that drive.

thediggler3030
01-22-2012, 07:41 PM
I don't think it was Rogers really, he just tore up our zone that drive.

Rewatch if you can. Rodgers was on him nearly every play.

dan77733
01-22-2012, 09:41 PM
******* bullcrap...I ******* hate the Giants!!! ****** ass super bowl. dont even care now.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 09:41 PM
I'll put it in perspective in the next few days but that sucked.........that really, really sucked.

Ness
01-22-2012, 09:41 PM
Alex, you can forget about that long term deal now. Last week was a ******* hoax. You suck dick. And I don't want to hear "It was his receivers, his line, duuuuuurrrrrr".

Dude couldn't hit the water if he fell off the boat. Time to go to Kaepernick.

Verloren
01-22-2012, 09:44 PM
And fans keep on saying that we should drop Ginn from the roster...

hawkeye123
01-22-2012, 09:45 PM
What a tough way to end. Regardless, i would never have imagined the niners would have gotten this far last summer.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 09:46 PM
Alex, you can forget about that long term deal now. Last week was a ******* hoax. You suck dick. And I don't want to hear "It was his receivers, his line, duuuuuurrrrrr".

Dude couldn't hit the water if he fell off the boat. Time to go to Kaepernick.

And look who's true colors show up. Giants punted on 9 of their last 10 possessions BTW.

Ness
01-22-2012, 09:47 PM
LOL I'm just kidding. But really, we need to sign some receivers.

Man what a letdown.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 09:50 PM
And fans keep on saying that we should drop Ginn from the roster...

Sign him to a deal tomorrow.

Madirishman
01-22-2012, 10:02 PM
We got SCREWED. It should have never gone to OT. Bradshaw's fumble would have given the Niners the ball under 2:00 in FG range with the ability to kill NY's remaining two timeouts, giving them the ball back down at least 3 with not much time remaining with our D being able to lock up the win. The line judge absolutely screwed us with the LATE whistle that conveniently is one of the only plays that is a JUDGEMENT call that CAN'T be reviewed or challenged. This needs to be addressed by the competition committee ASAP as it changed the whole direction (and likely outcome) of the game.

The Niners did make their mistakes (Kyle Williams <cough>) but they showed they had more HEART, they played BETTER as a TEAM and wanted it MORE than the Giants. We would have given the Pats a much better game but the biased ****ing media can suck both these teams off for the next couple weeks like they wanted to. PATHETIC! The conspiracy theorist in me is going apeshit right now.

It sucks to have your team play better then the other team and not move on. Heart-breaking. Who knows what would have happened vs the Pats in the Super Bowl but this team was special and I fell earned their right to find out. They got robbed.

brat316
01-22-2012, 10:04 PM
Somewhere Brent is drinking away this loss.

Ness
01-22-2012, 10:11 PM
We got SCREWED. It should have never gone to OT. Bradshaw's fumble would have given the Niners the ball under 2:00 in FG range with the ability to kill NY's remaining two timeouts, giving them the ball back down at least 3 with not much time remaining with our D being able to lock up the win. The line judge absolutely screwed us with the LATE whistle that conveniently is one of the only plays that is a JUDGEMENT call that CAN'T be reviewed or challenged. This needs to be addressed by the competition committee ASAP as it changed the whole direction (and likely outcome) of the game.

The Niners did make their mistakes (Kyle Williams <cough>) but they showed they had more HEART, they played BETTER as a TEAM and wanted it MORE than the Giants. We would have given the Pats a much better game but the biased ****ing media can suck both these teams off for the next couple weeks like they wanted to. PATHETIC! The conspiracy theorist in me is going apeshit right now.

It sucks to have your team play better then the other team and not move on. Heart-breaking. Who knows what would have happened vs the Pats in the Super Bowl but this team was special and I fell earned their right to find out. They got robbed.

"Bummer"..

Brent
01-22-2012, 10:14 PM
Somewhere Brent is drinking away this loss.
Pretty much.


So, it's only 94 days until that draft, you guys.

Brent
01-22-2012, 10:14 PM
Sign him to a deal tomorrow.
then draft a ******* return specialist, too. IN CASE ****.

Giantsfan1080
01-22-2012, 10:18 PM
Hey guys what a great ******* game. Honetly I can't explain how great you guys were. I'm looking forward to his new rivalry like the late 80's/early 90's rivalry. I love the way you guys play and Harbaugh is the ******* man. We'll see you again next year in this game. Brent and Borat you know you guys are my boys on this site.

Madirishman
01-22-2012, 10:21 PM
How about a BIG WR like I've been saying for months?!?! You all think Crabtree is getting the job done?! No catches today?! A lot of people will say Alex wasn't accurate and blah blah blah but VD was the only one that really got any kind of separation and he made it count when Alex found him. The rest of the WRs, especially Crabs were bottled up all game long and Alex intentionally under-threw the ball in his direction as the throws were too risky because of the lack of separation. We need someone who can separate and someone who can win a jump ball...ion 3rd down out rout or in the red zone (the two areas where Niners struggle horribly to convert).

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 10:25 PM
How about a BIG WR like I've been saying for months?!?! You all think Crabtree is getting the job done?! No catches today?! A lot of people will say Alex wasn't accurate and blah blah blah but VD was the only one that really got any kind of separation and he made it count when Alex found him. The rest of the WRs, especially Crabs were bottled up all game long and Alex intentionally under-threw the ball in his direction as the throws were too risky because of the lack of separation. We need someone who can separate and someone who can win a jump ball...ion 3rd down out rout or in the red zone (the two areas where Niners struggle horribly to convert).

V-Jackson?

Brent
01-22-2012, 10:27 PM
I'd rather get a Mike Wallace-type guy in the draft.

hawkeye123
01-22-2012, 10:28 PM
I can't believe my facebook news feed right now. 90% of these "49er fans" are nothing but band wagoners.

This was one awesome season to watch, seeing the niners the last few seasons and then seeing them this season was nothing but spectacular.

Who didn't think the niners were going into a rebuilding season last summer?
-New staff
-Questionable draft
-Lockout
-Playbook that players had to learn on the fly

If anyone said last August that this team would end up one game away from the Super Bowl, most people would have called them a homer.

I can't wait to see how this team looks with a full offseason.

Ness
01-22-2012, 10:29 PM
How about a BIG WR like I've been saying for months?!?! You all think Crabtree is getting the job done?! No catches today?! A lot of people will say Alex wasn't accurate and blah blah blah but VD was the only one that really got any kind of separation and he made it count when Alex found him. The rest of the WRs, especially Crabs were bottled up all game long and Alex intentionally under-threw the ball in his direction as the throws were too risky because of the lack of separation. We need someone who can separate and someone who can win a jump ball...ion 3rd down out rout or in the red zone (the two areas where Niners struggle horribly to convert).

How many big wide receivers get great separation? And who did you have in mind?

Brent
01-22-2012, 10:30 PM
How many big wide receivers get great separation? And who did you have in mind?
Ness, my friend just emailed me this with the line "Next year?" and I thought of you:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/sportsnetBayArea/thumbnails/Sportsnet_-_Pacific_Associates/865/49/6.7_kaepernick_650MP4_640x360_1979771631.jpg

VAfy-ya
01-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Alex, you can forget about that long term deal now. Last week was a ******* hoax. You suck dick. And I don't want to hear "It was his receivers, his line, duuuuuurrrrrr".

Dude couldn't hit the water if he fell off the boat. Time to go to Kaepernick.

Smh...you sound like a bumbling idiot, really. Typical Whiner fan reaction. If it wasn't for Alex, there would be no NFC Championship game to complain about. Nevermind that our offense isnt built to abandon the run and sit back in shotgun for 3 downs. We just dont have the firepower to pass on every down and that I will blame on Jimbaugh and Roman for those last two posessions under 5 mins went they got very predictable. Heavy sets, mutiple formations and playaction was working and they just completely went away from it when the clock got under 5 mins. Shotgun makes us easy to defend because we always max protect and we get too predictable with the route combinations. Go look at the Saints game.....same thing every third down. We go shotgun, we don't convert. WRs couldnt get off man coverage, they doubled VD, Walker looked rusty, what do you do on 3rd and 12? Alex played a good game, made throws when they were there to make, minus the one where K-10 got behind the defense. Those throws short in the flat where he threw at WRs feet I can live with. They would have been for very little gain, if any and I think that was Alex just throwing the ball away. Sorry to burst your bubble Ness but Alex will be back so either get used to the idea or go root for another team.

I'm dissapointed but far from mad. We had a great year and accomplished far more than I could have imagined. Alot ppl apparently have lost perspective on just how far we came in such a short time. We get some playmakers on the outside and shore up the interior of the O-Line and this will be a very dangerous team for years to come. Today, we lost the turnover battle and that's usually not a good omen for this team. We didn't cause a single turnover and committed two costly turnovers. That was the difference. Im proud of my team and will have high hopes for next season. Time for Baalke to work some magic....let the off-season begin.

**EDIT** And if it is true that you were joking Ness, you can ignore the first sentence, lol. But something tells me you were not...

Ness
01-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Ness, my friend just emailed me this with the line "Next year?" and I thought of you:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/sportsnetBayArea/thumbnails/Sportsnet_-_Pacific_Associates/865/49/6.7_kaepernick_650MP4_640x360_1979771631.jpg

It's possible. I think Alex deserves one more season. The schedule is going to be a lot more difficult next year. So we'll see how it goes. Regardless, the offense better be improved. Third downs especially. We need to be pushing the 40% range. Hopefully we have all of our staff intact for another run.

Ness
01-22-2012, 10:34 PM
Smh...you sound like a bumbling idiot, really. Typical Whiner fan reaction. If it wasn't for Alex, there would be no NFC Championship game to complain about. Nevermind that our offense isnt built to abandon the run and sit back in shotgun for 3 downs. We just dont have the firepower to pass on every down and that I will blame on Jimbaugh and Roman for those last two posessions under 5 mins went they got very predictable. Heavy sets, mutiple formations and playaction was working and they just completely went away from it when the clock got under 5 mins. Shotgun makes us easy to defend because we always max protect and we get too predictable with the route combinations. Go look at the Saints game.....same thing every third down. We go shotgun, we don't convert. WRs couldnt get off man coverage, the double VD, Walker looked rusty, what do you do on 3rd and 12? Alex played a good game, made throws when they were there to make, minus the one where K-10 got behind the defense. Those throws short in the flat where he threw at WRs feet I can live with. They would have been for very little gain, if any and I think that was Alex just throwing the ball away. Sorry to burst your bubble Ness but Alex will be back so either get used to the idea or go root for another team.

I'm dissapointed but far from mad. We had a great year and accomplished far more than I could have imagined. Alot ppl apparently have lost perspective on just how far we came in such a short time. We get some playmakers on the outside and shore up the interior of the O-Line and this will be a very dangerous team for years to come. Today, we lost the turnover battle and that's usually not a good omen for this team. We didn't cause a single turnover and committed two costly turnovers. That was the difference. Im proud of my team and will have high hopes for next season. Time for Baalke to work some magic....let the off-season begin.

You are a fool. Did you not see the post following that comment?

I'm not going to even read this post I just quoted. I'll allow you to go back and edit the initial one.

Ness
01-22-2012, 10:38 PM
Hey guys what a great ******* game. Honetly I can't explain how great you guys were. I'm looking forward to his new rivalry like the late 80's/early 90's rivalry. I love the way you guys play and Harbaugh is the ******* man. We'll see you again next year in this game. Brent and Borat you know you guys are my boys on this site.

Yeah can we have a do-over?

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 10:40 PM
I'd rather get a Mike Wallace-type guy in the draft.

Your right. Everything is too condensed to the middle of the field. Need a burner to stretch it out. Question is do we dip into free agency or move up like ATL and grab a Julio Jones. Could also make a run at Carl Nicks and beef up the offensive line.

Brent
01-22-2012, 10:46 PM
I think the Niners drafting style has been rather clear for a long time: sit and wait unless you are worried you won't get "your guy." I would wait to see what workouts/pro days the Niners attend, as they have attended the workout of or brought in every 1st & 2nd rounder for the past few years.

Ness
01-22-2012, 10:48 PM
Your right. Everything is too condensed to the middle of the field. Need a burner to stretch it out. Question is do we dip into free agency or move up like ATL and grab a Julio Jones. Could also make a run at Carl Nicks and beef up the offensive line.

Carl Nicks isn't going anywhere. I think we are MAYBE getting one big free agent and that is it. It looks like Baalke and Harbaugh are doing things like Green Bay does them, and that is building through the draft and not throwing money at high priced free agents.

We're going to have Josh Morgan back, so that is a plus. Wallace would be nice, but I'm just not that sold on him. I'm always weary about free agent wide receivers. It only seems to work out like 10% of the time.

Brent
01-22-2012, 10:50 PM
We're going to have Josh Morgan back, so that is a plus. Wallace would be nice, but I'm just not that sold on him. I'm always weary about free agent wide receivers. It only seems to work out like 10% of the time.
Mike Wallace isnt a free agent, I was just referring to the type of WR I wish the Niners had.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 10:53 PM
Carl Nicks isn't going anywhere. I think we are MAYBE getting one big free agent and that is it. It looks like Baalke and Harbaugh are doing things like Green Bay does them, and that is building through the draft and not throwing money at high priced free agents.

We're going to have Josh Morgan back, so that is a plus. Wallace would be nice, but I'm just not that sold on him. I'm always weary about free agent wide receivers. It only seems to work out like 10% of the time.

Saints may use franchise tag on Brees so we could have a shot. Yeah free agent receivers rarely work out. I wanna say sign a few cheap WRs but the Edwards signing really backfired and SF was left with no depth.

VAfy-ya
01-22-2012, 10:55 PM
Like your going to hurt my feelings if you dont read my post....really? But I did edit it so I threw you a bone, for what its worth...

VAfy-ya
01-22-2012, 11:08 PM
Saints may use franchise tag on Brees so we could have a shot. Yeah free agent receivers rarely work out. I wanna say sign a few cheap WRs but the Edwards signing really backfired and SF was left with no depth.

They are not going to franchise Brees. Like Brees is even entertaining the idea of leaving a offense he is so comfortable in and sets records with. He'll be back, just a matter of when. Honestly, I wasn't very impressed with Nicks when we played them. He got owned several times and he seems like just a power guard, ala Rachal but with better techinque. Same brutal feet though. I understand it was just one game but I was surprised by how easily he loses leverage and gave up interior pressure. I'd like to get a big guy a RG who is athletic, but still has pretty good power. Feet is the key. With as much as we ask our OGs to do, you can't just be a power guy.

phlysac
01-22-2012, 11:09 PM
Alot of blame to go around in this game, but I will comment on what frustrated me most...


Did you see how easily Cruz found soft spots to get open? Even that rookie from New Orleans was able to do it last week. And they are doing it against an elite defense.


I just long for the team to have a receiver that just gets open. I love Crabtree, but clearly he's not that type, at least not yet. It's painful to watch the combination of an inconsistent QB scrambling to find openings to throw to that just don't exist.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 11:12 PM
They are not going to franchise Brees. Like Brees is even entertaining the idea of leaving a offense he is so comfortable in and sets records with. He'll be back, just a matter of when. Honestly, I wasn't very impressed with Nicks when we played them. He got owned several times and he seems like just a power guard, ala Rachal but with better techinque. Same brutal feet though. I understand it was just one game but I was surprised by how easily he loses leverage and gave up interior pressure. I'd like to get a big guy a RG who is athletic, but still has pretty good power. Feet is the key. With as much as we ask our OGs to do, you can't just be a power guy.

He's not looking to leave but he wants to be paid and contract talks have been dragged out. If deal gets dragged out they maybe forced to use the tag by the deadline.

Ness
01-22-2012, 11:13 PM
No high priced free agent receivers.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 11:20 PM
Also I like Anthony Dixon but he is the 49ers version of Brandon Jacobs. Two shots on 2nd/3rd and one and he gets stuffed. 49ers were close to cutting him earlier this season and I think it happens this offseason.

Brent
01-22-2012, 11:21 PM
Also I like Anthony Dixon but he is the 49ers version of Brandon Jacobs. Two shots on 2nd/3rd and one and he gets stuffed. 49ers were close to cutting him earlier this season and I think it happens this offseason.
My homerism prays that we take Cyrus Gray.

Ness
01-22-2012, 11:22 PM
This is hilarious.

SulHp7cHeVc

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 11:35 PM
I love the postgame show. Larry Krueger just said he would trade Crabtree for a 3rd round pick. What a clown. I'm pissed off (and drinking) but that's just a joke.

Brent
01-22-2012, 11:38 PM
I'm pissed off (and drinking)
I am getting ******* wasted tonight, moreso than when the Giants ******* won the WS. This one stings.

VAfy-ya
01-22-2012, 11:39 PM
Also I like Anthony Dixon but he is the 49ers version of Brandon Jacobs. Two shots on 2nd/3rd and one and he gets stuffed. 49ers were close to cutting him earlier this season and I think it happens this offseason.

Dixon is fine. The line gave up interior pressure. They had Justin Smith in at TE(I hope they scrap all these defensive guys in on offense to block. Just Ice, that's it) and he completely whiffed on his block and the play was a disaster from there. Remember he was a shoe string tackle away from breaking off a long run. He'll be back. Wouldnt surprise me if we kept 4 RBs on the active roster next year. He's a good ST's player too.

Ness
01-22-2012, 11:43 PM
I love the postgame show. Larry Krueger just said he would trade Crabtree for a 3rd round pick. What a clown. I'm pissed off (and drinking) but that's just a joke.

Didn't he get fired from KNBR for racism?

Ness
01-22-2012, 11:44 PM
By the way I hope this isn't the end for Gore. He might be done after all the wear and tear though.

VAfy-ya
01-22-2012, 11:48 PM
Biggest thing for me, play-calling. I'm just miffed at all the shotgun on 3rd and short. We're in shotgun on almost every 3rd down, no matter the distance or where we are on the field. Shotgun on 3rd and 3, from inside the 10 yard line? That reeks of the Martz days. 3rd and 2 and we're in shotgun.....just dont understand what they dont see when they look at our 3rd down conversion rate and keep thinking that doing the same thing will work.....eventually. Out of all the good Jimbaugh did this year, that's the one area I think he(along with Roman) dropped the ball. I don'tunderstand how you can have creativity on every other down excpet the one where you need it the most. Play-calling has to be better in this area going foward.

Brent
01-22-2012, 11:48 PM
By the way I hope this isn't the end for Gore. He might be done after all the wear and tear though.
He's really missed that burst this year, and did you notice how many times he had to tap out of the game? He's worn down, they need someone to help out. Hopefully, Hunters steps up next year, he's got some serious burst. I love the guy.

VAfy-ya
01-22-2012, 11:54 PM
He's really missed that burst this year, and did you notice how many times he had to tap out of the game? He's worn down, they need someone to help out. Hopefully, Hunters steps up next year, he's got some serious burst. I love the guy.

Yeah, I think a off-season in a NFL strength and conditioning program should improve his power and balance. He's just too small to trust with too many inside runs right now. But hopefully he has a great off-season and comes back bigger and better.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-22-2012, 11:58 PM
Didn't he get fired from KNBR for racism?

He dropped a "brain-dead Caribbean hitters hacking at slop nightly" when talking about the Giants hitters. SMH

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-23-2012, 12:02 AM
Yeah, I think a off-season in a NFL strength and conditioning program should improve his power and balance. He's just too small to trust with too many inside runs right now. But hopefully he has a great off-season and comes back bigger and better.

I think the problem is we rested Gore for this point in the season. The final 8 games he only cracked 20+ carries 3 times. He also got the week off with the playoff bye and still looked to be worn down. Granted he finished with 282 carries but he looks to be declining.

49erNation85
01-23-2012, 12:37 AM
I'm just so upset how we lost the dam game today just grr. A bad fumble by Williams I hope he loses sleep over that one. I was listening to the game on Radio since I was work and was just at aww in pissed off mode.Lucky held my cool until I got off and now drinking like some of you. I am also very disappointed in how our offense performed the way the stats looked I don't know if it is still our QB problem who has no arm or the play calling or both or even our Wide outs just sucking so bad in big games. So I dunno how our draft session will go into I just hope we draft more then one wide out early in the first round and maybe to at 5/6th round after we address the defense more. End of rant ......

Madirishman
01-23-2012, 12:44 AM
How many big wide receivers get great separation? And who did you have in mind?

They separate vertically; something we don't really have on this team. Vernon is the closest with ability and we use him on seam routes and deep outs most of the time. A taller WR would open up more opps for VD and Crabs, etc. in the redzone.

Many teams use tall targets with leaping ability to help in the red zone and on 3rd downs.
See:
Fitzgerald, Larry
Graham, Jimmy and Colston, Marques
Johnson, Calvin
Jackson, Vincent and Floyd, Malcom
Burress, Plaxico

The list goes on but you get it I'm sure. I'm not saying I necessarily want these guys (most would be very difficult to obtain) but I'd like someone with their type of build and skill set (at least a possession/red zone type that could potentially develop into a #1 or a solid #2 WR). I'll be watching the draft process closely to see targets that fit this mold.

49erNation85
01-23-2012, 12:52 AM
I just want some one who we can use who has the separation deep wise he doesn't have to be tall but built pretty stout and can catch.I really think we need to trade into the teens of the draft maybe and go after Jefferson or even Floyd.

binary
01-23-2012, 12:53 AM
bleh...crappy feeling right now. But what a great season, had the time of my life watching this stuff.

ninerfan
01-23-2012, 02:16 AM
Gutted, just gutted with today's loss. 1 thing I'm unsure of is the Braylon move. I know he wasn't providing much offensively but did we really need to cut him? It seems since then we've gone into every game with 2 (ok really 1) threat - VD & Crabs with nothing else either working out or scaring defenses. I mean cutting him for Swain made 0 sense. At least having him on the field forced defenses to at least cover him.
Crabs will need to hit back strongly next season cos he left this season with a whimper.
Finally damn I never thought I'd miss Ginn this much

Great run but the dream season died tonight - I had a feeling that the way things played out it was a year to pinch 1

Ness
01-23-2012, 02:25 AM
Cutting Braylon Edwards was the right move. Defenses wouldn't be scared of him. He was doing terrible. The 49ers were down to like zero targets so it doesn't matter.

Ness
01-23-2012, 02:45 AM
Someone needs to sit Kyle Williams down and tell him not to try and be the hero of the game. You saw what the Giants players did when they field punts. They didn't even try to advance it once a 49ers defender got close to them. They just curled up. Williams was diving for punts trying to catch it and ****. I don't care if you are at the one yard line. Just catch it, sit down, and shut up.

ninerfan
01-23-2012, 03:32 AM
Someone needs to sit Kyle Williams down and tell him not to try and be the hero of the game. You saw what the Giants players did when they field punts. They didn't even try to advance it once a 49ers defender got close to them. They just curled up. Williams was diving for punts trying to catch it and ****. I don't care if you are at the one yard line. Just catch it, sit down, and shut up.

2nd year blues, hope he takes the pain of today & drives him forward in his career. I don't blame him for the loss but he was a contributing factor.

If any of our free agents cant see that we are on the verge of something here & take the cash I'd be bitterly disappointed

Based on who resigns we may need a shut down CB & a hard hitting Safety on top of the needs for WR, RG, OLB. Everyone signs on & we are close to be an NFC Championship favorite next year again, if they don't we could be middle of the pack again

Ness
01-23-2012, 03:35 AM
49ers might not have another chance like this for another ten seasons. The offense needs to get better. I don't think we are going to have another year like this on defense getting all these turnovers. So a better offense would really take pressure off the defense. The schedule is a lot harder next year. Hopefully we win at least ten games. Gore might have to reduce his role to 50% of the carries. He'll be 29 and his best days are clearly behind him. If Alex Smith and the passing game plays better, the 49ers at least have a chance. Great defenses don't stay around year in and year out, and even if they do, in this day and age you can't bank on them as your ticket to the postseason. It's an offensive league. You need to have a decent offense.

ninerfan
01-23-2012, 03:40 AM
Carlos Rogers & Goldson return & the draft can be focused on offense. Seriously need another WR (can it be Morgan??) or another pass catching TE (Walker??) & a player to stretch the field. I'll back Alex to be better in year 2 of the system also. Gore also concerns me, I like Hunter but could he carry the load??

Ness
01-23-2012, 03:43 AM
I like Morgan as a starting wide receiver. The problem is he got hurt. But he has shown the ability to get separation and make plays. More so than Crabtree in my opinion. But we need someone else beyond Crabtree. Williams is alright as a slot receiver, but that is about it. Ginn isn't a receiver at all and Brett Swain shouldn't be on the active roster.

I don't think Hunter can carry the load. I do like the trio of Gore, Hunter, and Dixon though. I actually think Dixon is kind of underrated.

I hope Rogers and Goldson return. I have a feeling they will.

ninerfan
01-23-2012, 03:48 AM
Bitterly disappointed if the signed elsewhere - it would only be for cash. Still unsure about Dixon, he dances too much for my liking. Love Gore in pass pro but he seems to be on the decline, maybe an off season can reinvigorate him? Ginn is purely a return guy & we definitely need someone to stretch the field

Ness
01-23-2012, 03:51 AM
I'm not sure if any rookie receiver is going to come in here and make wonders though. I really don't want to go after a big name receiver as it never seems to work out with teams. But a highly touted rookie receiver is better than what we had on the field today in terms of depth, so whatever. Doesn't even have to be highly touted, just someone talented and someone that can get open.

ninerfan
01-23-2012, 04:00 AM
I'll be looking for improvements from the entire offense in year 2

Ness
01-23-2012, 06:06 AM
Still can't believe we lost that game. We could have easily won it if we could hold on to the ball and convert a third ******* down.

Seems like overtime was just delaying the inevitable though.

Listen to Ray Ratto's unsupported tone in this video.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/video?PID=JsPu6wIeFDq_p7JoHztLYARPaEMkmULo

Ness
01-23-2012, 06:20 AM
Hilarious comments on CSN Bay Area's main site:

1-13 on 3rd down...where are all those morons comparing the noob to Joe Montana at now? WTF? Don't ever compare that LOSER to Joe Montana 4 time SB champ!!!!!!!!!!!


He had to try because Alex wasn't doing $hit! Someone had to make a play or at least go down trying! Rather go down swinging!


and the biggest goat in niner history is.....kyle williams come on down!


Congrats Kyle, you're famous!

The Niners should file a Missing Person report on Crabtree. The "possession" receiver, the guy who's supposed to "move the chains?" His one catch was for 3 yards on a 3rd and 5. Except for that short TD on a slant against the Saints, he disappeared in the post season. I saw his interview...seems he thinks he was open and not getting thrown to? What, did Alex Smith decide he didn't want to throw him? As they say on ESPN, "Come on man!"

abaddon41_80
01-23-2012, 07:27 AM
I, for one, am embarrassed for our wide receivers. Does Crabtree really think he was getting open? Every time Smith got sacked or had to run they would show the receivers and if Crabtree thinks that is being open then I can't imagine what he thinks being covered is.

I cannot believe anyone would try and blame this on Smith. I am not gonna sit here in say he played great, he missed a few receivers to two or three times they were actually open, but did Eli really play that much better all things considered? Cruz was dominating Rogers all night and Eli had fairly good pass protection on the majority of his dropbacks. The 49ers receivers only got open a handful of times and Smith was running for his life after three seconds on what seemed like every dropback. Smith was pressured just as much as Eli even though he threw the ball less than half as many times.

Between Crabtree and Williams I would put nearly 100% of this loss on our receivers.

Also, Alex Smith's first two playoff games

36/68 (52.9%)
495 yards
7.3 Y/A
5TD
7.4 TD %
0 INT
101.0 QB rating
1 rushing TD
70 rushing yards

Completion percentage obviously a little low, though considering his receivers during that run were Michael Crabtree, Brett Swain and Kyle Williams maybe not, but I think he had proven to be a better than average QB.

Verloren
01-23-2012, 07:51 AM
Hilarious comments on CSN Bay Area's main site:

And there's the stuff on Twitter...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1034961-san-francisco-receiver-kyle-williams-receivers-death-threats-on-twitter

Ness
01-23-2012, 07:51 AM
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VAfy-ya
01-23-2012, 09:57 AM
I think the problem is we rested Gore for this point in the season. The final 8 games he only cracked 20+ carries 3 times. He also got the week off with the playoff bye and still looked to be worn down. Granted he finished with 282 carries but he looks to be declining.

My bad, I was actually talking about Hunter. Honestly, I think ppl might have seen Gore's last game as a Niner. It would not surprise me. But if Gore does stick around I hope they make Hunter the 3rd down back next year and they split their workload almost 50/50. Gore was the superior pass prorector this year so it made sense for him to be the third down back. But hopefully next year Hunter will improve enough in that area to see the majority of the snaps on that down.

abaddon41_80
01-23-2012, 10:24 AM
I thought Gore looked fairly good in the postseason. He actually got back on track as a receiver and looked quicker to me

Menardo75
01-23-2012, 10:26 AM
Colston is likely not going to be brought back... He could be just what the doctor ordered.

VAfy-ya
01-23-2012, 10:33 AM
49ers might not have another chance like this for another ten seasons. The offense needs to get better. I don't think we are going to have another year like this on defense getting all these turnovers. So a better offense would really take pressure off the defense. The schedule is a lot harder next year. Hopefully we win at least ten games. Gore might have to reduce his role to 50% of the carries. He'll be 29 and his best days are clearly behind him. If Alex Smith and the passing game plays better, the 49ers at least have a chance. Great defenses don't stay around year in and year out, and even if they do, in this day and age you can't bank on them as your ticket to the postseason. It's an offensive league. You need to have a decent offense.

Like I said numerous times before, this is only the beginning. If we add peices on offense, we wont need our defense to be as dominate going foward. I can see us, if we keep key personel in the fold, being a consistent top 5 defense. Pittsburgh always has a great D, the Ravens, why can't we? The offense will get better. The WCO is a offense that generally takes about 3 years for the QB to master. I think Alex did a exceptional job in first year in the offense, with basically no prep time to really get him going. He should be much better next year. We add some playmakers on the outside to free up our TEs to do damage underneath and we will be able to hang with any team, on both sides of the ball. I think we're another pass-rusher away from being a absolutely dominate defense. We also need a nickel saftety that can cover TEs.

People keep harping on the CBs yesterday but they played a good game. Cruz is going get those little catches across the middle because that's esentially their run game. Jacobs and Bradshaw combined for 87 yards rushing. Our run defense is so dominant, we make teams one dimensional. That's why both Brees and Eli had over 60 attempts....that's the only way they were going to move the ball. Alot of those passes, CBs were right there. Just good chemistry between a good WR and good QB who has been in the same offense his entire professional career. Cruz was a non factor in the second half so we made the proper adjustments at halftime. We didnt get any pressure on Eli in the first half and that had alot to do with it also. That one big play down the sidelines he caught in the first half I think was a mis-cumnnication. It look like Rogers thought that there was supposed to be a safety deep to that side of the field. CBs is actually the least of my concerns at this point. Even Brock, who gave up a touchdown, didnt get burned, just failed to get his head around in time to locate the ball and it was great throw by Eli. Brock is a RFA and Cully, Brown, and Spencer are all under contract for next year. Our CB situation is alot better than most.

VAfy-ya
01-23-2012, 10:36 AM
Colston is likely not going to be brought back... He could be just what the doctor ordered.

Depends on the price. He's not a top tier WR and doesn't deserve top tier money, but for the right price he could be a good posession guy. Still rather have his teammate Meachem however.....

Brent
01-23-2012, 10:52 AM
Cruz was a non factor in the second half so we made the proper adjustments at halftime.
This is the one thing I have noticed all year that isn't talked enough about. You know that coaching staff is good when you see consistent halftime adjustments being made and different results between halves.

abaddon41_80
01-23-2012, 10:56 AM
The Giants offense could do almost nothing after halftime. They only got points because of Williams' fumble

phlysac
01-23-2012, 11:14 AM
Defensive adjustment were palpable, clearly. Offensive adjustments, not so much.

VAfy-ya
01-23-2012, 11:27 AM
This is the one thing I have noticed all year that isn't talked enough about. You know that coaching staff is good when you see consistent halftime adjustments being made and different results between halves.

Absolutely. We have a very talented staff and all look to be back next year(fingers crossed). I really think Fangio and Donatell will be able to really coach these guys up in the off-season. All Done and Cully should be even better players next year. All Done will have a tougher go at it next year though. Teams will start to chip and double him more so his production may dip a little but he will still be a force and that should free up Cowboy and Ray Mac for more one-on-one opportunties. That's why I feel adding another situational pass-rusher to the strong-side is important. Re-signing Brooks will be key also. He may not be the pass-rusher All Done is but he is a solid all-around OLB. He can get to the QB, plays the run as good as any, and he's a fluid athlete in space when asked to drop in coverage. And looking at the FA list, no one else could provide what he does for us.

VAfy-ya
01-23-2012, 11:36 AM
Defensive adjustment were palpable, clearly. Offensive adjustments, not so much.

3rd down playcalling....URGHHHH!!! I literally wanted to smash my flat screen in the second half. "For the love of God Roman, get out of the ****** shotgun!!" could be heard from miles away. I'm surprised my remote is still intact and working....I threw that thing more than a relief pitcher warming up in the bullpen.

binary
01-23-2012, 12:05 PM
The Giants offense could do almost nothing after halftime. They only got points because of Williams' fumble

Yup, both offenses blew after halftime...but really our Offense drove down the field twice for 10 points....and was on it's way to a third score if we convert on 2nd and 2 and 3rd and 1 (Dixon). It hurts to say, but the Offense really did enough to win the game.....the Giants were not the better team...and I hate to put all the blame on one player, but Kyle Williams really screwed the pooch.

Ness
01-23-2012, 03:50 PM
Colston is likely not going to be brought back... He could be just what the doctor ordered.

I think Colston will be brought back by New Orleans too. I have a feeling they'll find a way to keep Nicks, Brees, and Colston for at least another year.

Ness
01-23-2012, 04:05 PM
I will be ticked off if the offense isn't better. I want to see them pushing top 15 in terms of yardage and points scored. Alex needs to take control of the offense next year and be the main reason why it's successful. No excuses. I don't want to hear about his line, his receivers, etc. If he doesn't improve drastically in year two, he needs to be replaced by Kaepernick or someone else. Again another Super Bowl comes to pass with two of the best quarterbacks in the game. Not a coincidence.

will99890
01-23-2012, 04:22 PM
3rd down playcalling....URGHHHH!!! I literally wanted to smash my flat screen in the second half. "For the love of God Roman, get out of the ****** shotgun!!" could be heard from miles away. I'm surprised my remote is still intact and working....I threw that thing more than a relief pitcher warming up in the bullpen.

Seriously, 3rd and short? Screw it, lets run a nice slow developing draw to Gore.

I'd be interested to see how many of Gore's rushes came from shotgun formations. He should pounding away out of the I formation instead of dancing around on draws.

chapo123
01-23-2012, 04:37 PM
no completed passes or plays made on 3rd down killed this team. this can either be blamed on a. the receivers - williams for sure but don't get me started here. i'm going to pissed if he comes back next season. b. smith for not being able to make plays down the stretch. c. bad play calling...but then again the oc would have been told something by harbaugh if it wasn't the right thing to do.

all sf had to do was play efficient and beat a 9-7 team....williams big FU.

i would be open to trading crabtree after these comments - "Sometimes you just gotta move the ball, man," Crabtree said. "You gotta make plays. You gotta give people a chance to make plays. You gotta make plays."...the audacity of this prick.

there is a ton of moves that need to be made. resign smith and brooks. does rogers and goldson need to sign? questionable i'd say yes but these guys got a ton of yards against them via saints and big plays against the giants when it mattered most.

binary
01-23-2012, 05:01 PM
I will be ticked off if the offense isn't better. I want to see them pushing top 15 in terms of yardage and points scored. Alex needs to take control of the offense next year and be the main reason why it's successful. No excuses. I don't want to hear about his line, his receivers, etc. If he doesn't improve drastically in year two, he needs to be replaced by Kaepernick or someone else. Again another Super Bowl comes to pass with two of the best quarterbacks in the game. Not a coincidence.

yeah top 15 is a good goal.

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-23-2012, 05:12 PM
I will be ticked off if the offense isn't better. I want to see them pushing top 15 in terms of yardage and points scored. Alex needs to take control of the offense next year and be the main reason why it's successful. No excuses. I don't want to hear about his line, his receivers, etc. If he doesn't improve drastically in year two, he needs to be replaced by Kaepernick or someone else. Again another Super Bowl comes to pass with two of the best quarterbacks in the game. Not a coincidence.

What exactly is drastic improvement in your eyes though? He is coming off a 14 win season with 6 comeback wins and an NFC Championship appearance. Yet that still hasn't fed the appetite of this fanbase. Are we talking team offense taking a jump in total rankings or individual statistics?

[Edit-Just saw you said top 15....not sure how I missed that my bad]

Again another Super Bowl comes to pass with two of the best quarterbacks in the game. Not a coincidence.

Brady went 22/39, 239 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs and in his own words "sucked today." I think good QB play is a factor in reaching the Super Bowl but I don't feel it is the end all be all. The '07 Giants and '05 Steelers prove that.

abaddon41_80
01-23-2012, 05:12 PM
I will be ticked off if the offense isn't better. I want to see them pushing top 15 in terms of yardage and points scored. Alex needs to take control of the offense next year and be the main reason why it's successful. No excuses. I don't want to hear about his line, his receivers, etc. If he doesn't improve drastically in year two, he needs to be replaced by Kaepernick or someone else. Again another Super Bowl comes to pass with two of the best quarterbacks in the game. Not a coincidence.

I am not sure how Alex could improve drastically on the way he played this year. He was a top 10 QB, top 15 at worst. Do you expect him to jump into the top five? What needs to improve is the play of the receivers, which was bottom five this season. That improvement would easily give us a top 15 offense

WhatWouldBillyBajemaDo?
01-23-2012, 05:50 PM
I am not sure how Alex could improve drastically on the way he played this year. He was a top 10 QB, top 15 at worst. Do you expect him to jump into the top five? What needs to improve is the play of the receivers, which was bottom five this season. That improvement would easily give us a top 15 offense

Probably. The difference between where the 49ers rank in total offense (24th) and 15th is about 40 yards per game. If the team countinues throwing like it has for the final 8 weeks we should see a boost heading into next season. I think Crabtree and Davis will both go over 1,000 yards.

VAfy-ya
01-23-2012, 05:57 PM
Probably. The difference between where the 49ers rank in total offense (24th) and 15th is about 40 yards per game. If the team countinues throwing like it has for the final 8 weeks we should see a boost heading into next season. I think Crabtree and Davis will both go over 1,000 yards.

Depending on who they bring in on the outside, its very realistic to see VD over 1,000 yards next year. Not sure about Crabtree, just depends on how he fits with the other WR(s) we bring in and if he holds off Morgan for the other starting spot. If Morgan is healthy, we're playing in the Super Bowl. No doubt in my mind....

Ness
01-23-2012, 06:10 PM
I am not sure how Alex could improve drastically on the way he played this year. He was a top 10 QB, top 15 at worst. Do you expect him to jump into the top five? What needs to improve is the play of the receivers, which was bottom five this season. That improvement would easily give us a top 15 offense

The defense gave the offense 28 more possessions and the offense was still less than average. If you don't think Alex can improve on the year he had then we need to change quarterbacks. He wasn't a top ten quarterback in my eyes. Borderline top 15. If we had another starter. Imagine what this team would look like with someone like Schabub, Brees, Eli Manning, Stafford, Rodgers, etc. Guys that are passing threats. NFL defenses don't fear Alex Smith. He needs to get to the level of being a passing threat. Hopefully it's more the problem of his receivers than it is on him, but regardless he can still step it up himself.

He gets another year, but he needs to improve his game. No excuses. Good quarterbacks also elevate the players around them.

Ness
01-23-2012, 06:12 PM
Depending on who they bring in on the outside, its very realistic to see VD over 1,000 yards next year. Not sure about Crabtree, just depends on how he fits with the other WR(s) we bring in and if he holds off Morgan for the other starting spot. If Morgan is healthy, we're playing in the Super Bowl. No doubt in my mind....

49ers need to resign Morgan. That guy is legit.

abaddon41_80
01-23-2012, 06:50 PM
The defense gave the offense 28 more possessions and the offense was still less than average. If you don't think Alex can improve on the year he had then we need to change quarterbacks. He wasn't a top ten quarterback in my eyes. Borderline top 15. If we had another starter. Imagine what this team would look like with someone like Schabub, Brees, Eli Manning, Stafford, Rodgers, etc. Guys that are passing threats. NFL defenses don't fear Alex Smith. He needs to get to the level of being a passing threat. Hopefully it's more the problem of his receivers than it is on him, but regardless he can still step it up himself.

He gets another year, but he needs to improve his game. No excuses. Good quarterbacks also elevate the players around them.

I am not saying that he can't improve, I expect him to do so, but for him to drastically improve he would basically have to become an elite QB, which even I don't think is gonna happen.

I don't really see how having any of those guys you listed would have impacted this season all that much. We went 13-3 in the regular season, second best in the NFL, and Smith won us our first playoff game and played fairly good in the second. Eli certainly didn't play much better than Smith and he is being praised. I ask you this, if the Giants fumble a punt and we win in OT is Smith getting as much praise as Eli and is Eli taking as much flak as Smith?

Ness
01-23-2012, 06:59 PM
This made me feel better after the loss. Still funny as hell.

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Verloren
01-23-2012, 07:05 PM
Absolutely. We have a very talented staff and all look to be back next year(fingers crossed). I really think Fangio and Donatell will be able to really coach these guys up in the off-season. All Done and Cully should be even better players next year. All Done will have a tougher go at it next year though. Teams will start to chip and double him more so his production may dip a little but he will still be a force and that should free up Cowboy and Ray Mac for more one-on-one opportunties. That's why I feel adding another situational pass-rusher to the strong-side is important. Re-signing Brooks will be key also. He may not be the pass-rusher All Done is but he is a solid all-around OLB. He can get to the QB, plays the run as good as any, and he's a fluid athlete in space when asked to drop in coverage. And looking at the FA list, no one else could provide what he does for us.

I saw All Done getting chipped a lot today and last week. He ended up adjusting taking a more inside route to get to Eli, but I'm not sure how effective it was in terms of getting pressure.

phlysac
01-23-2012, 08:16 PM
49ers need to resign Morgan. That guy is legit.

I really like Joshua Morgan, as well, and hope he returns but I ask this...

How is Morgan "legit" and needs to be resigned, yet Alex Smith is perhaps bottom half of the League and needs replaced???

Alex Smith has meant worlds more to this team than Joshua Morgan, and a #2/#3 WR is far easier to replace than a 14-win NFL QB.

Ness
01-24-2012, 12:40 AM
I really like Joshua Morgan, as well, and hope he returns but I ask this...

How is Morgan "legit" and needs to be resigned, yet Alex Smith is perhaps bottom half of the League and needs replaced???

Alex Smith has meant worlds more to this team than Joshua Morgan, and a #2/#3 WR is far easier to replace than a 14-win NFL QB.

Because Morgan has shown when healthy to make plays. I think he'd be a lot better if he had consistently good play from the quarterback position. Remember when he first came here and as a rookie he was tearing up the preseason catching long bombs? Unfortunately O'Sullivan and Hill were throwing the ball to him.

I didn't say Alex needs to be replaced now. I said if he doesn't improve next season and develop into a passing threat where defenses fear him, we need to replace him. He's earned one more year to me, but nothing beyond that.

I don't think it's any coincidence that the really big quarterbacks get the fattest money deals in the NFL. Because those guys have shown they can carry the team on their back regardless of surrounding circumstances. Alex Smith probably isn't going to get the six to seven year deal that guys like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees gets. I think the best he'll get is a three year deal, maybe. That basically shows how much faith the 49ers have in him.

Ness
01-24-2012, 12:46 AM
I am not saying that he can't improve, I expect him to do so, but for him to drastically improve he would basically have to become an elite QB, which even I don't think is gonna happen.

I don't really see how having any of those guys you listed would have impacted this season all that much. We went 13-3 in the regular season, second best in the NFL, and Smith won us our first playoff game and played fairly good in the second. Eli certainly didn't play much better than Smith and he is being praised. I ask you this, if the Giants fumble a punt and we win in OT is Smith getting as much praise as Eli and is Eli taking as much flak as Smith?

I don't think turning into a Jake Delhomme, Mark Brunell, Steve McNair, or Troy Aikman in their prime is asking too much. I don't think passing for over 200 yards a game is asking too much. I don't think converting more third downs is asking too much. The dude doesn't have to be a megastar, but being a passing threat would be nice. Let's see what he does with some better receivers next year.

Eli is being praised because his team won the game and Eli carried the Giants on his back this year. He's a respected quarterback around the NFL. If the Giants lost that game the way we did Alex wouldn't be getting that much praise and Eli wouldn't be getting that much flak because of what their past has told everyone. Until Alex wins games in this league at a consistent level and doesn't rely on a defense to give him extra possessions and special teams to cut his field in half all the time, he's going to be slighted. I'm not saying it's fair, I'm just saying that is how it is and that is how everyone is going to look at the situation.

dan77733
01-24-2012, 12:53 AM
Eli passed for two TD's as did Smith and considering that Smith only has ONE legitimate weapon in Davis (who isnt even an actual WR) compared to Manning who has THREE, your comparision isnt fair Ness. Seriously, give the Smith hate a ******* rest. Smith is by far the least of our problems. A speed WR, better blocking up front and a shutdown CB are far bigger concerns to me than Smith.

Ness
01-24-2012, 01:01 AM
Eli passed for two TD's as did Smith and considering that Smith only has ONE legitimate weapon in Davis (who isnt even an actual WR) compared to Manning who has THREE, your comparision isnt fair Ness. Seriously, give the Smith hate a ******* rest. Smith is by far the least of our problems. A speed WR, better blocking up front and a shutdown CB are far bigger concerns to me than Smith.

This is about the long term future, not just one game. Even if he does get more weapons, it's not out of the question to ask him to step his game up. See what kind of contract he gets. That will tell you how much faith Baalke and Marathe have in him. Manning carried his team on his ******* back this season. Can Alex do the same if he doesn't have punter that helps with field position and a defense that gives him 28 more opportunities? With an improved receiving roster, and a second year in the offense we will see.

It's not hating, so you can stop with that ******** Dan. It's having a high standard for quarterback play. Sorry, I don't want to just "get by".

binary
01-24-2012, 01:21 AM
I actually agree with Ness somewhat. Alex is going to have to improve in order to be thought of as a solution. He's now pretty clutch and can win big games. He played well this year, but next year we gotta improve third downs and Alex needs to become a LEGIT top tier QB, or else we need to move on. With a real offseason and some added WR help, he should be able to do it...he's improved every year, he just needs one more step.

Ness
01-24-2012, 01:28 AM
I actually agree with Ness somewhat. Alex is going to have to improve in order to be thought of as a solution. He's now pretty clutch and can win big games. He played well this year, but next year we gotta improve third downs and Alex needs to become a LEGIT top tier QB, or else we need to move on. With a real offseason and some added WR help, he should be able to do it...he's improved every year, he just needs one more step.

And the schedule is going to be a lot harder next season. At Green Bay, New Orleans, and New England. Seattle and Arizona look improved too. I wouldn't be surprised if the 49ers win less than 10 games next season. Hopefully we have a good draft and get some nice role players in free agency.

Borat
01-24-2012, 01:42 AM
Ummm, I said in the original post, that I wanted revenge for this:


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Not more of the same. Dammit.

The game was awesome though. I was so proud of the crowd. I haven't watched it on TV yet, but I'm assuming it sounded loud because the noise inside the place was ear-splitting. Good stuff fans, good stuff.

Honestly, I'm disappointed, but not mad. This season was just so much more than I expected. I just can't get pissed. Only thing that really sucked is that the 2 fumbles by Williams really didn't represent the team's performance this year. Too bad because the defense in the 2nd half was beasting. Hell of a season though. It was a sick ride and felt super good to be one of the elite teams again. Right where we belong.

Ness
01-24-2012, 01:58 AM
Well after having a day to think about it, the defense gave the Giants all they could handle, and they just got the lucky bounce of the ball at the end. It was bound to happen to one of those teams. It happened to the Giants unfortunately. The 1990 loss is still far worse. We weren't even supposed to be here.

Ness
01-24-2012, 01:59 AM
Oh, and I still want Kyle Williams back despite the **** up he did the other night. The guy has potential as a receiver. I hope he makes the team. One thing I will say about him is that he does play with a lot of heart and determination and actually wants to make plays. I get a sense of more desire from him than Michael Crabtree.

Madirishman
01-27-2012, 02:35 PM
Oh, and I still want Kyle Williams back despite the **** up he did the other night. The guy has potential as a receiver. I hope he makes the team. One thing I will say about him is that he does play with a lot of heart and determination and actually wants to make plays. I get a sense of more desire from him than Michael Crabtree.

Agree, as KW10 has great value as a slot WR and kickoff returner. He does care and is the kind of character guy you want on your team. He should only lose his job should they sign/draft a better slot WR/returner.

dan77733
01-27-2012, 02:45 PM
I want Williams to return as the slot receiver too. Releasing him would be stupid considering the fact that only he and Crabtree are under contract for 2012. What I really want is an explosive playmaking deep threat on the outside. That should be our main focus on offense after hopefully re-signing Snyder and letting Rachal walk.

Shupp
04-08-2012, 07:16 PM
Agree, as KW10 has great value as a slot WR and kickoff returner. He does care and is the kind of character guy you want on your team. He should only lose his job should they sign/draft a better slot WR/returner.

Williams in the slot fine but I can't believe Harbaugh would ever let him touch a ball that came off another player's foot again...

Madirishman
04-08-2012, 07:51 PM
Williams in the slot fine but I can't believe Harbaugh would ever let him touch a ball that came off another player's foot again...

Depending on who they draft, he'll still get opportunities in mini camps and training camps to prove he can be a productive returner. If they draft someone with more talent or he demonstrates that he's mentally effected by what happened last season, then he won't get many more opportunities come the regular season, which also puts his roster spot in risk. People forget that in between fumbles, he had a 40+ yard kickoff return.