Official 2012 Senior Bowl Thread

[iowatreat54]

Jesus, have any of these players snapped a ball before?

God, Wilson has not thrown one good ball in the last like 10 passes. He looks god awful.

[Miaoww]

Bad throw by Wilson again there. Robinson bailed him out. Could have easily have been picked with better coverage.

Coverage wasn't bad it's just the problem smaller CBs have - QBs are going to just throw jump balls to big receivers matched up against them.

Especially in the new, offence friendly, NFL.

[phlysac]

Wilson is hurting himself pretty badly.Back to back amazing passes by Russell Wilson...
Posted one minute apart.

This is why this is so fun.

[iowatreat54]

Posted one minute apart.

This is why this is so fun.

Haha sorry, mine was sarcastic. Wilson has looked awful.

[ElectricEye]

Posted one minute apart.

This is why this is so fun.

Iowatreat was being sarcastic.

[phlysac]

Figured, but wasn't sure. And I still love Wilson. But I never saw him as more than a #2/3 round 6 or later.

[Miaoww]

Ok so if a defensive player does what Jones just did to Jenkins on that TD it's PI.

How is that fair?

[iowatreat54]

Hey look, Wilson hit a WR finally. Nice play fake and throw on the run to Marvin Jones for the 8 yard TD.

[ElectricEye]

I would love it if Lindley stepped in and looked good. Really like his talent, even though the accuracy issues appear to be very real.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

The reporter is almost taller than Wilson.

[dolphinfan2k5]

This has probably been asked, but stream?

Edit: NVM

[iowatreat54]

This has probably been asked, but stream?

Check your PMs.

Lindley looking good so far.

[ElectricEye]

I wasn't a big Criner guy coming in, but I'm really liking what I see between this and practices.

EDIT:

Not sure what they're talking about with Lindley having a weak arm. Every scouting report I've read on the guy disagrees and so do I.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Joe Adams is going to be a player.

[Miaoww]

Bar the fumble, Joe Adams has played well today.

[ElectricEye]

Lindley threw that one pretty well, wasn't off by much. That's OK. Nowhere near as bad as the Wilson one was earlier.


...and this Dalton thing they're talking about is absurd. Not knocking either player, but they're pretty different.

[phlysac]

...and this Dalton thing they're talking about is absurd. Not knocking either player, but they're pretty different.

Well, if you believe Charles Davis it was "several scouts" who made the comparison. I didn't agree with it, either.

[SchizophrenicBatman]

The QB's in this game =

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/cripple-fight.jpg

[ElectricEye]

That's cute. Moore thinks he can throw an out route.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I'm with Mayock. I like Osmele, but he's a G.

[TACKLE]

That's cute. Moore thinks he can throw an out route.

Pretty sure it would have been a pick 6 had Coples not tipped it.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Zach Brown is a poor mans Sean Weatherspoon.

[Bulldogs]

Coples took over that series.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Lindley's grade gets knocked down because of that ridiculous head band.

[ElectricEye]

Heck of a return by Pead.

[TACKLE]

Heck of a return by Pead.

Too bad he got tripped up by his own player at the end.

[Big Bird]

That return by Pead was great. This guy is so underrated. He is an Arian Foster clone with the way he plays. He is going to surprise a lot of people.

How people rate him behind a guy with a small frame like Hillman who will never be more than a situational guy is beyond me.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

When the best thing you can say about someone's arm is that it's better than Palko's... you have issues.

[Ghost of Juice]

I'm surprised these announcers can talk with Kellen Moore's balls in their mouths.

[PossibleCabbage]

I'm with Mayock. I like Osmele, but he's a G.

And there's nothing wrong with that. There are fewer offensive linemen to go around in college, and teams generally put their physically most impressive lineman at tackle, and their mentally most impressive lineman at center, but those guys might project best to guard in the NFL. It's somewhat rare that you find great NFL guards who were primarily guards in college. I mean, look at the college positions of a lot of the best NFL guards: Jahri Evans was a left tackle, Josh Sitton was a right tackle, Logan Mankins was a left tackle, Carl Nicks was a left tackle, etc.

For the record, I like Osemele too, more than Cordy Glenn.

[ElectricEye]

Posey looked like he rounded out that route a bit.

[WT01]

Has Polk even been in for a snap since the first series?

[Lil Quip]

I'm surprised these announcers can talk with Kellen Moore's balls in their mouths.

Haha well it is their last chance as his career as a college QB is at the twilight. maybe in name only, but this is technically a college all star game. He is going to get ripped to shreds at the combine.

[A Perfect Score]

Watching Kellen Moore play football makes me sad inside. The guy looks so damn unathletic...

Joe Adams is going to be so awesome. Mike Wallace 2.0.

Coples looked pretty good out there, I won't lie. He's not quite as natural of a pass rusher as some of the reports would lead you to believe though. Not as fluid as the Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, JPP types.

I thought Kirk Cousins was the best QB in that first half, and we saw him for all of 1:25.

[ElectricEye]

Coples has helped himself, in my eyes. I had some questions about him leading into the week. I don't think he'll ever be a huge sack total guy(although 10+ is possible), but he's defiantly got the ability to be a base end and a real factor as a pass rusher.

[4U2NV]

I heart Doug Martin

[Nikolas]

Odd question, why is Case Keenum not here? Was he ineligible due to his extra year? Was he just not invited?

[4U2NV]

I'm really impressed with Coples. Hope he slides to Miami.

[ElectricEye]

Nice play by TJ Graham. He's defiantly helping his cause even more today.

[4U2NV]

Wow what a play by Robinson! And Martin with a killer block.

[ElectricEye]

Impressive sequence there for all involved after Cousins blew the deep throw.

[4U2NV]

Kellen Moore out of the game already?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Watching Kellen Moore play football makes me sad inside. The guy looks so damn unathletic...

Joe Adams is going to be so awesome. Mike Wallace 2.0.

Coples looked pretty good out there, I won't lie. He's not quite as natural of a pass rusher as some of the reports would lead you to believe though. Not as fluid as the Mario Williams, Julius Peppers, JPP types.

I thought Kirk Cousins was the best QB in that first half, and we saw him for all of 1:25.


Joe Adams seems more DeSean ish to me.

On Coples, I think ultimately he'll be in that 8-11 sack range, but still have a massive impact ala Peppers year one in Chicago.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Those last two throws are Nick Foles.

[SchizophrenicBatman]

I'm going to laugh at whoever takes Weeden in the first

[TACKLE]

That's what happens when you hold onto the ball too long and try to bail out deep out of the back of the pocket.

[Mitchell]

Quinton Coples is a monster, does he have a future at 3-4 DE?

[SchizophrenicBatman]

That's what happens when you hold onto the ball too long and try to bail out deep out of the back of the pocket.

I petition we dub that the "Blaine Gabbert"

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Quinton Coples is a monster, does he have a future at 3-4 DE?


He could, but you're not doing him justice. 43 DE.

[ElectricEye]

Joe Adams is looking really good. This is all coming with return value too.


Interesting that Mayock thinks Quick helped himself. He had a pretty bad week from what I saw/read.

[WhiteBread]

Joe Adams is electric.

[WT01]

I petition we dub that the "Blaine Gabbert"

Tarvaris Jackson was doing it first!

[Miaoww]

I want to see Joe Adams play against press coverage.

[Lil Quip]

One of the things I love about these games (although it may say more about the unimportance of the game) is that everyone made the South talent to be much better than the North. Woops, North is ahead by two TD's. It seems like the more talented teams usually lose these games.

[Phins827]

I'm really impressed with Coples. Hope he slides to Miami.

No doubt. If Coples does fall to Miami, I don't see how they pass on him. perfect compliment to Wake

[descendency]

Quinton Coples is a monster, does he have a future at 3-4 DE?

Not really.

Coples has helped himself, in my eyes. I had some questions about him leading into the week. I don't think he'll ever be a huge sack total guy(although 10+ is possible), but he's defiantly got the ability to be a base end and a real factor as a pass rusher.

He's a hot and cold kind of guy. He's going to be a top 10 pick, but I can see him busting easily. He clearly tanked it at Carolina last year.

[SchizophrenicBatman]

If you're a CB playing against Nick Foles why wouldnt you just sit on the WR screen? Even if you get beat once or twice you should get a couple picks 6s

[Miaoww]

Not really.



He's a hot and cold kind of guy. He's going to be a top 10 pick, but I can see him busting easily. He clearly tanked it at Carolina last year.

My worry is that the Panthers pick #8/9. I hope we're not the one that takes Coples.

[ElectricEye]

Good throw by Foles there. Better play by Criner winning against the coverage. Really impressed with him this week.

[Miaoww]

Criner has been the most impressive WR this week and he's proving that today. He's made himself a lot of money.

[ElectricEye]

Two holds on Osemele today and one that wasn't called. Not a great day for him. Didn't like all of what I saw in practice either. I agree with Mayock about him probably being limited to guard.

[descendency]

My worry is that the Panthers pick #8/9. I hope we're not the one that takes Coples.

That's where I see him a lot... but, I have a feeling Michael Brockers is going to be a top 10 pick which means he's probably going to Carolina.

[Miaoww]

That's where I see him a lot... but, I have a feeling Michael Brockers is going to be a top 10 pick which means he's probably going to Carolina.

The Brockers pick is interesting - but it's a risky selection. He has all the potential in the world, but he's only started one year (or as far as I'm aware).

Still they hit a HR with Newton (when I wasn't sold on him at all) so I'll trust their judgement.

[4U2NV]

Wow! Great play by Coples!

[Phins827]

Wow! Great play by Coples!

I don't care what Panther fans say, they can pass on him. I'll GLADLY take him in Miami

[thefridge15]

Wow! Great play by Coples!

I like Osemele, but what a poor job on that play. Giving up inside gap on a draw? C'mon now.

[4U2NV]

Ugly throw by Weeden.

[ElectricEye]

Yeah, that was an absolute meatball.

[hawkeye123]

How many yards did Moore throw?

[sbh15]

seems like weeden is blowing all the buzz he built up this week

[4U2NV]

What are people's thoughts on Pead? Didn't watch him at all during the season but those two returns and a couple of decent runs have me intrigued.

[4U2NV]

How many yards did Moore throw?
50 I think.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Pead is extremely impressive. Wow.

[TACKLE]

Pead is extremely impressive. Wow.

Pead is Shady-esque.

[RaiderNation]

How many pass yards did Kellen Moore end up with?

[WT01]

Didn't see much of (that's of, not from) either Martin or Polk. Frustrating that the Minnesota coaching staff kept putting Pead and Herron out there for a good majority of the snaps.

[4U2NV]

Didn't see much of (that's of, not from) either Martin or Polk. Frustrating that the Minnesota coaching staff kept putting Pead and Herron out there for a good majority of the snaps.

That was frustrating for me as well. Polk looked alright in very limited action. Martin got a lot of work on one drive and looked great but didn't seem involved at all from that point on. Probably the two most talented RBs in the game and they got very little work.

On the plus side, I was able to get my first look at Pead who I'll now have to watch more film on before my fantasy drafts.

[PossibleCabbage]

Quinton Coples is a monster, does he have a future at 3-4 DE?

Very few players can only play in an odd front or an even front (good players can generally play in both) but it would be really surprising if a 3-4 team has a higher grade on Coples than a 4-3 team.

[nepg]

That was frustrating for me as well. Polk looked alright in very limited action. Martin got a lot of work on one drive and looked great but didn't seem involved at all from that point on. Probably the two most talented RBs in the game and they got very little work.

On the plus side, I was able to get my first look at Pead who I'll now have to watch more film on before my fantasy drafts.
Because they had little to gain from the game itself whereas there were some other guys trying to get noticed. Injury risk is a huge deal for that game and the only part that matters a ton for known prospects is the practice week.

[WT01]

Because they had little to gain from the game itself whereas there were some other guys trying to get noticed. Injury risk is a huge deal for that game and the only part that matters a ton for known prospects is the practice week.

You don't think that scouts know who Pead and Herron are? It's not like Polk or Martin were consensus top-15 picks coming into this week. They could use as many snaps to try and improve their stock as anybody.

[49erNation85]

How did Moore today guys ? I'm sure he didn't impress some of you nit picky guys tho.

[keylime_5]

I wish Pead had better grades in high school so he could've gone to Ohio State. Sigh.

[Babylon]

I'm going to laugh at whoever takes Weeden in the first

You won't be laughing.

[norcalgsr]

How did Moore today guys ? I'm sure he didn't impress some of you nit picky guys tho.

Had 2 sure TD's on back to back passes, but McNutt and Posey couldn't make catches.

[FUNBUNCHER]

Coples doesn't look real powerful to me considering he's over 280#. Looking at his arms and upper body, I see much improvement for him to make in the weight room.

Criner is going to challenge hard to be th 2nd WR taken. I hope he blazes his 40 at the combine.

[A Perfect Score]

Coples doesn't look real powerful to me considering he's over 280#. Looking at his arms and upper body, I see much improvement for him to make in the weight room.

Criner is going to challenge hard to be th 2nd WR taken. I hope he blazes his 40 at the combine.

This is absolutely preposterous. He was the third best WR at the Senior Bowl this week, you really think he's going to take on Kendall Wright, Michael Floyd and Alshon Jeffery too? Hell, Sanu and Randle are both significantly better as well. I'd have Criner, at his very peak, as the #8 or #9 WR in this class. #2 makes me laugh though, so congrats on being able to do something correctly, because evaluating WR's is clearly not your thing.

[SRogers92]

Harsh, but I lol'd.

[MidwayMonster31]

This is absolutely preposterous. He was the third best WR at the Senior Bowl this week, you really think he's going to take on Kendall Wright, Michael Floyd and Alshon Jeffery too? Hell, Sanu and Randle are both significantly better as well. I'd have Criner, at his very peak, as the #8 or #9 WR in this class. #2 makes me laugh though, so congrats on being able to do something correctly, because evaluating WR's is clearly not your thing.Who's the other one besides Joe Adams?
Going back at his tape, he doesn't get that good a release for someone who's as big as he is. However, he is a fairly good route runner, he can get up field after the catch, he doesn't have bad drops, and made a ton of big plays for the Wildcats. While I agree that most people will have everyone you mentioned ahead of Criner, I think he will make for a very good starter in the NFL.

[A Perfect Score]

Who's the other one besides Joe Adams?
Going back at his tape, he doesn't get that good a release for someone who's as big as he is. However, he is a fairly good route runner, he can get up field after the catch, he doesn't have bad drops, and made a ton of big plays for the Wildcats. While I agree that most people will have everyone you mentioned ahead of Criner, I think he will make for a very good starter in the NFL.

Marvin Jones was the best WR I saw at the Senior Bowl. Then I would have had Joe Adams, then Criner. Saying he's going to fight for the #2 WR in this class is actually beyond moronic. Unfortunately, that's familiar territory for FUNBUNCHER.

[Shane P. Hallam]

This is absolutely preposterous. He was the third best WR at the Senior Bowl this week, you really think he's going to take on Kendall Wright, Michael Floyd and Alshon Jeffery too? Hell, Sanu and Randle are both significantly better as well. I'd have Criner, at his very peak, as the #8 or #9 WR in this class. #2 makes me laugh though, so congrats on being able to do something correctly, because evaluating WR's is clearly not your thing.

It can be argued Criner was the best WR of Senior Bowl week. Will he be the 2nd WR off the board? Of course not, but I don't wouldn't criticize someone's evaluation of WRs because they like Criner. I think Criner is better than Randle myself, so feel free to criticize my evaluation too.

I think Criner can develop into a starter in the NFL and be better than many of the WRs that will be drafted over him. I was impressed with his body of work and Senior Bowl week. Count me as a fan.

[rawdawg]

It can be argued Criner was the best WR of Senior Bowl week. Will he be the 2nd WR off the board? Of course not, but I don't wouldn't criticize someone's evaluation of WRs because they like Criner. I think Criner is better than Randle myself, so feel free to criticize my evaluation too.

I think Criner can develop into a starter in the NFL and be better than many of the WRs that will be drafted over him. I was impressed with his body of work and Senior Bowl week. Count me as a fan.

Agree. Criner looks to be the most NFL ready of all the WRs after the top 30 range. Blackmon, Floyd, Jeffery, and Wright are probably most ready but after that I think Criner is likely to be on the field and be able to run the entire route tree as a rookie.