Manning to sign with Denver Broncos

[scottyboy]

the broncos do have a pretty good group of WR's Peyton could work with.

Now, Slowshon and RB's...well that's a whole 'nother story.

[njx9]

meh, mcgahee's solid, and it's all but done that we'll add someone in the draft. and since we're not terrible at drafting (since mcdaniels), he'll likely be better than donald brown.

[scottyboy]

meh, mcgahee's solid, and it's all but done that we'll add someone in the draft. and since we're not terrible at drafting (since mcdaniels), he'll likely be better than donald brown.

true, and depends who you draft. I'd love to see Peyton in denver. plus, you'd have a new fullback in tebow and a chance to fill some other holes through the draft. it'd be cool to see

and that was more a shot at moreno if anything

[njx9]

and that was more a shot at moreno if anything

well i can always respect that.

[vidae]

scotty, we want Peyton on the Chiefs! FOCUS!

[njx9]

scotty, we want Peyton on the Chiefs! FOCUS!

you! shhhh!

[vidae]

you! shhhh!

You can either have Tebow or Brock in the first! Those are your options! You are the Broncos!

[49erNation85]

Get over it guys tebow is not moving to fb . He's a QB!

[njx9]

You can either have Tebow or Brock in the first! Those are your options! You are the Broncos!

i will stab you with dg's leftover big macs until you're dead from it.

[draftguru151]

You mean big mac boxes right? Cause uhhhhhhhh....

[vidae]

i will stab you with dg's leftover big macs until you're dead from it.

Yeah, there isn't any food left there and the boxes are flimsy. Come at me bro!

[fenikz]

After at least 12 teams contacted Peyton Manning when he became a free agent, the former Indianapolis Colts quarterback has narrowed down his options.

The Denver Broncos and Arizona Cardinals, the first two teams Manning visited with, are considered the two likeliest landing spots at this point, according to sources familiar with the situation.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7672173/2012-free-agency-peyton-manning-favors-denver-broncos-arizona-cardinals-sources-say

[I_C_DeadPeople]

That joke has been said a few times :wink2:

Along with "His natural position is missionary"

[SuperPacker]

:lol:
Brock Osweiler in the first round. That should be a criminal offence.

[njx9]

Yeah, there isn't any food left there and the boxes are flimsy. Come at me bro!

all that means is the stabbing will last longer. there might also be paper cuts!

[Giantsfan1080]

How did Miami get knocked out of this thing already.

[SuperPacker]

How did Miami get knocked out of this thing already.

Has Peyton said no to Miami?

[draftguru151]

How did Miami get knocked out of this thing already.

http://images.forbes.com/media/lists/10/2009/stephen-ross.jpg

Is my guess.

[Giantsfan1080]

Has Peyton said no to Miami?

According to the post above mine he's narrowed it down to the 2 teams in Denver and Arizona.

[SuperPacker]

According to the post above mine he's narrowed it down to the 2 teams in Denver and Arizona.

Ah, gotta say im quite surprised he doesnt want to go to Miami. That makes more sense than Denver IMO.

[bigbluedefense]

If Peyton goes to Denver, Phillip Rivers won't see the playoffs for the next 4 years.

The Chargers would finally have some competition in the division and wouldn't sleep walk into the playoffs every year anymore.

Not to mention the Chargers are so void of talent right now. If Jackson is gone, you basically have Phillip Rivers, a fat and old Antonio Gates, and a bunch of mediocre/scrub players. That sums up the Chargers in a nutshell.

[crossroads]

Ah, gotta say im quite surprised he doesnt want to go to Miami. That makes more sense than Denver IMO.

I can only assume he doesn't want to have to go through New England just to win his own division

[SuperPacker]

I can only assume he doesn't want to have to go through New England just to win his own division

The Dolphins with Manning would be better than the Patriots with Brady! But yeah it's not the best match up he could wish for.

[bigbluedefense]

I'm surprised he doesn't want to go to the Chiefs. To me, the Chiefs would be the slam dunk choice. They're the best team to go to.

[Da-Phins]

Manning could still meet with the Dolphins when he returns to Miami. Dolphins arent ruled out yet.

[SuperPacker]

I'm surprised he doesn't want to go to the Chiefs. To me, the Chiefs would be the slam dunk choice. They're the best team to go to.

Yeah I agree. I cant think of a reason why he wouldn't want to go there. They literally have everything in place.

[Roddoliver]

If Peyton goes to Denver, Phillip Rivers won't see the playoffs for the next 4 years.


I doubt Manning will play for another 4 years. He is near the end of the line. I would say 1 or 2 seasons. Maybe he won't last 16 games. Tamba Hali?

I can only assume he doesn't want to have to go through New England just to win his own division

If he is afraid of the Patriots, then I wonder if he is the right man to lead a team to the Super Bowl.

[T-RICH49]

If Peyton Manning goes to Denver I will go to Denver and burn the city down myself.After I make a stop by Arrowhead and kick Pioli and Hunt's butt

[bigbluedefense]

3 years. If he's healthy enough to play, he can play 3 years. I'm still not convinced he's healthy, but that's a different story.

[Diehard]

I'm surprised he doesn't want to go to the Chiefs. To me, the Chiefs would be the slam dunk choice. They're the best team to go to.

I wonder if the Patriots connection there is a factor? They are pretty much "The Enemy" to Manning.

From a non-football perspective, KC isn't a particularly desirable destination. That may matter to PM at this point in his career.

[vidae]

I wonder if the Patriots connection there is a factor? They are pretty much "The Enemy" to Manning.

From a non-football perspective, KC isn't a particularly desirable destination. That may matter to PM at this point in his career.

What is undesirable about KC?

The Dolphins with Manning would be better than the Patriots with Brady! But yeah it's not the best match up he could wish for.

No, they would not. The Patriots would still own that division.

I'm surprised he doesn't want to go to the Chiefs. To me, the Chiefs would be the slam dunk choice. They're the best team to go to.

Maybe he does, we don't know. I'm not holding my breath but until he signs somewhere it isn't over.

Also, RAC is pretty good against Peyton Manning. Does he really want to face our defense twice a year?! Not smart Peyton!

[J-Mike88]

What is undesirable about KC?
Not that huge of a deal, but it might matter to some:
http://activerain.com/image_store/uploads/3/8/4/6/4/ar129676883746483.jpg Arizona in December

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/spring-storm.jpg Kansas City in December

Also: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2008/11/romeo-crennel-miracle-113008.jpg

But the Chiefs definitely have way better fans than Arizona or Miami.

[vidae]

It snowed four times in KC this year. Four. We're not Antarctica or anything.

[OSUGiants17]

So apparently his top 2 choices right now are Denver and Arizona. Here's how I weigh them out:
Denver:
PROS
- Weaker division
- Solid ground game
- A very good defense
- Solid O-Line

CONS
No WRs or TE
- Cold Weather and Outdoor Stadium

Arizona:
PROS
- Larry Fitzgerald
- Dome and nice weather
- Solid Run Game
- Have shown that they can work with a veteran QB in Warner

CONS
- Strong division competition with the 49ers and having to face them twice a year could lead to him getting injured again very easily. Not to mention Greg Williams is the new Rams DC and will surely put a bounty on Peyton
- No weapons outside of Larry Fitz
- Poor O-Line

In my opinion, his best option is KC. Great ground game, best WRs out of the teams pursuing him(Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston), solid O-Line for the most part, good young defense.

In the end, I think Peyton winds up in the AFC West, either with the Broncos or the Chiefs

[asdf1223]

Why are people saying Greg Williams will put a bounty on Peyton? There's a good chance Greg Williams wont even coach anymore and even so I doubt he'll get involved in bounties anymore. Though I wouldn't mind. It'll atleast take away the obscene amount of first rounders the Rams have.

And Denver has pretty good receivers. No one in Fitz's class but Decker and Thomas are very very good.

[SuperPacker]

Why are people saying Greg Williams will put a bounty on Peyton? There's a good chance Greg Williams wont even coach anymore and even so I doubt he'll get involved in bounties anymore. Though I wouldn't mind. It'll atleast take away the obscene amount of first rounders the Rams have.

Its one of those things called a joke.

[BeerBaron]

It snowed four times in KC this year. Four. We're not Antarctica or anything.

<worksforaweathercompany>

It snowed all of like 4 times in PA last year too...it was an extremely mild winter. One of the warmest on record.

</worksforweathercompany>

[vidae]

Nice, right? Really mild winter. The one before this was pretty annoying but this one was manageable. That made me happy.

[gpngc]

I would be SHOCKED if he chose Denver over Arizona. Shocked. And if he did, I'd suspect he really did prefer AFC a lot.

[Steady Lurkin]

Nice, right? Really mild winter. The one before this was pretty annoying but this one was manageable. That made me happy.

Where did Peyton Manning's best postseason performance happen, again?

Oh yeah, that's right.

I also think having Crennel is a benefit more than a negative. Defensive-minded head coach who has nothing to do with the offense. He'll just hand it over to Peyton like Dungy did.

[Diehard]

What is undesirable about KC?

Sorry bro, that probably came off as too harsh. But looking at the other options...

Miami - definitely the glamour choice, despite most of it being a **** hole

Arizona - the trendy choice for the upper class (weather, golf)

Denver - high quality of life overall & top notch access to outdoor activities

In overall affluence (as measured by the rate of high incomes), those three are pretty close in rankings with KC quite a bit further down the list:

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2012/02/southwest-connecticut-heads-list-of.html?appSession=785906154081075

Anyway, I didn't mean to imply that there was something horribly wrong with KC. I've always had fun there (can't go wrong with wings and beers at the Peanut). But if Peyton is looking at more than just football, KC as a destination may be a little behind some of the other options.

[dolphinfan2k5]

I don't know why people think Miami is out. He is visiting with them third, either tonight or tomorrow from everything that I have read. Nothing has changed with Miami in three days for them to be completely ruled out by the media after being the favorites.

[Giantsfan1080]

Haha A.J. Smith is such a POS.

“I don’t know, and I really don’t care,” Smith told Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego. “I concentrate on the Chargers.”

And then it appeared that Smith tried to make it better, until he decided to take a more subtle slap.

“I do wish him the best in whatever the Manning family decides,” Smith said. “I don’t know why you would ask me. And I don’t know why anyone is asking Peyton. If you really want to know what’s going on — what trips he’s making and where he’s going to play — call Archie.”

[D-Unit]

Would the Cowboys be considered dumb or smart if they went for Peyton?

[fenikz]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7672173/2012-free-agency-peyton-manning-favors-denver-broncos-arizona-cardinals-sources-say

is why people have ruled miami out

[SuperPacker]

Would the Cowboys be considered dumb or smart if they went for Peyton?

Smart.

How much would it cost them to ditch Romo and sign Manning?

[J-Mike88]

Haha A.J. Smith is such a POS.
He is, but I think that's a great quote from Smith. Spot-on.

Archie is the one who 100% called the shots when Elisha was drafted by the Chargers and refused to play with them. Eli had no idea... Goober didn't know anything about that team or organization other than they had LT.

[J-Mike88]

Here's how I weigh them out:- Strong division competition with the 49ers and having to face them twice a year could lead to him getting injured again very easily.
Overall nice breakdown, but LOL at that part: Like the 49ers are more likely to injure Manning than any other team.

Those injuries can happen anytime, from any player.

The opposing team defenses and players will not factor one bit in Peyton's pros & cons.

[dolphinfan2k5]

is why people have ruled miami out

That article is so vague. It's basically saying oh, he met with Denver, they are number one. Oh he's meeting with Arizona today? They are number two since we don't know how that went yet. Oh he hasn't met with Miami yet, just like he wasn't scheduled to? They're out.

As far as I can tell, he is still planning on ending his visits with Miami tonight or, more likely, tomorrow.

[OSUGiants17]

Overall nice breakdown, but LOL at that part: Like the 49ers are more likely to injure Manning than any other team.

Those injuries can happen anytime, from any player.

The opposing team defenses and players will not factor one bit in Peyton's pros & cons.

Um playing the best defense in the league twice a year behind a mediocre O-Line better factor into his decision

[fenikz]

That article is so vague. It's basically saying oh, he met with Denver, they are number one. Oh he's meeting with Arizona today? They are number two since we don't know how that went yet. Oh he hasn't met with Miami yet, just like he wasn't scheduled to? They're out.

As far as I can tell, he is still planning on ending his visits with Miami tonight or, more likely, tomorrow.

it's adam schefter, he doesn't guess on things

[dolphinfan2k5]

Please, like he has never been wrong before. ESPN literally has to have these articles. They are intentionally vague so that "new developments" can happen so they were never actually wrong. If they went all weekend saying "Miami is the front runner", "Miami is still the front runner", "Miami basically a lock", there would be no drama. I am not saying this just because it's Miami. How it plays out is irrelevant to my point. Everyone had Harbaugh as a done deal to Miami. Everyone had Fisher as a done deal to Miami. Everyone basically thought McCoy was a done deal to Miami, even McCoy.

[WCH]

In my opinion, his best option is KC. Great ground game, best WRs out of the teams pursuing him(Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston), solid O-Line for the most part, good young defense.

In the end, I think Peyton winds up in the AFC West, either with the Broncos or the Chiefs

If (and this might be a big "if") the Chiefs end up with a 90% healthy Peyton Manning and a 90% healthy Jamaal Charles to go with that WR corps, they would immediately enter the top-tier of NFL offenses.

[OSUGiants17]

If (and this might be a big "if") the Chiefs end up with a 90% healthy Peyton Manning and a 90% healthy Jamaal Charles to go with that WR corps, they would immediately enter the top-tier of NFL offenses.

Agreed, and with the Chargers most likely losing Jackson, the Chiefs would immediately become the front runners for the AFC West for the next 3-5 years.

[Rosebud]

Are the seahawks going after Peyton? I think that might just be his best fit, a developing defense with an excellent young secondary and solid front 7, a strong running game that can step up while Peyton shakes off the rust, develops chemistry with his new receivers and masters the offense, a developing and young OL, some good weapons for him to throw, a very manageable division and once again he'll have a great homefield advantage to work with. I haven't read about him possible going there but I think it would be a great fit for Peyton to finish of his career with. Especially if their other moves this offseason are hits.

[Mufasa]

The Chargers really have turned to garbage rather quickly. Just a few years ago they were consistently talked about as the most talented team in the NFL(though they never did much with it), and now it's a very unimpressive roster.

[A Perfect Score]

The Chargers really have turned to garbage rather quickly. Just a few years ago they were consistently talked about as the most talented team in the NFL(though they never did much with it), and now it's a very unimpressive roster.

Makes you wonder just how much pull Marty had within the organization. That was a 14-2 franchise when he was running the ship.

[Splat]

I still love me some Rivers but other than that they are really no better than anyone else in the AFC West. I know having the best QB gives them the edge but even with Rivers they haven't won the West since 09.

[bigbluedefense]

AJ has drafted a lot of duds lately. I don't care what anyone says, the Ryan Mathews trade was one of the worst trades we've seen in awhile, English is a bust, Cason has been average, he's really swung and missed a lot lately.

[Rosebud]

I also think their talent was over-stated. They had some awesome studs, but there wasn't great talent behind their stars and there were holes that the greatness of their studs was covering up. That is why JWill getting old, Merriman's body falling apart, McNeill no longer being dominant and the other guy that are no longer great for them, has hurt them so much.

[bigbluedefense]

No, that team was loaded from 05-09. But like every team, there's a ton of roster turnover and when the roster turned over, the remaining/new talent that came in was mediocre at best.

They should have won a SB by now. In fact, in 06, if they just kept Drew Brees, I'd be shocked if they didn't win the SB that year with Brees under Center. That team was easily the most talented team in the NFL that year.

[Mufasa]

I also think their talent was over-stated. They had some awesome studs, but there wasn't great talent behind their stars and there were holes that the greatness of their studs was covering up. That is why JWill getting old, Merriman's body falling apart, McNeill no longer being dominant and the other guy that are no longer great for them, has hurt them so much.

I don't think it was overstated really. The 2006-08 teams were stacked. They had one of the best RBs in NFL history in his prime, one of the best TEs in NFL history in his prime, a young pro bowl QB, and a solid offensive line. Plus they had a great #2 back in Michael Turner in the begging and then Vincent Jackson broke out as a pro bowl WR at the end. The defense wasn't as great, but still good and they had studs at the 2 most important positions.

[bigbluedefense]

The year they lost to the Pats in the divisional, they had arguably the best defense in the league, along with a top 3 offense in the league.

That team was ridiculous. Theres no question they have underachieved over the past 4 years.

Even in 09, when the Saints won the SB, they should have came out of the AFC but they choked it vs the Jets. They had the best team in the AFC that year too, I know the Colts were red hot all year but the Chargers own the Colts. I have no doubt that if they beat the Jets they would beat the Colts as well.

[gpngc]

Seahawks are trying to set up a visit, but have been 'unable' to do so thus far.

What that means is anyone's guess.

I don't think Peyton wants anyone knowing anything and I think he's being incredibly tight-lipped through this process.

He hasn't said no to Seattle yet, and all negative reports regarding the Seahawks' chances have been conjecture. Because of this, I still have hope.

I wish he would either confirm a visit or come out and say no to them. But the media is playing this thing so weird right now. I feel like they are all in the dark.

[vidae]

It's all speculation at this point, ever bit of it, except that he was in Denver and is now in Arizona. The rest is all crap.

[niel89]

Chargers ****** up so bad by not winning anything during that entire period. They were stacked, I especially remember the defense. They had talent almost every where except maybe WR that I can remember. I didn't and still don't understand getting rid of Marty. I know he struggled in the playoffs but at least he was for sure getting there each time.

No way they kept Brees though after he jacked his shoulder in the last game of the season, needed a new big contract & they had a young top drafted QB waiting.

[Rosebud]

No, that team was loaded from 05-09. But like every team, there's a ton of roster turnover and when the roster turned over, the remaining/new talent that came in was mediocre at best.

They should have won a SB by now. In fact, in 06, if they just kept Drew Brees, I'd be shocked if they didn't win the SB that year with Brees under Center. That team was easily the most talented team in the NFL that year.

I still don't think that there was that much talent past the stars. That OL was good, but McNeil was the only one on that line that ever dominated and beyond him and Hardwick it's been pretty mediocre. The running game was fading by the time Vjax and the passing game blew up.

And on D I think their depth was really over-rated. It was Jamal Williams, Merriman, Donnie Edwards, Jammer and Wade Phillips that made that defense for me. Olshanksy was a solid run defender but was really pretty average. I always felt Castillo was over-rated, he had a couple years where he really took advantage of having Jamal and Merriman drawing double teams, but to me he was always a guy like Cofield. A good solid player who wasn't a true impact player and then his body started falling apart. Phillips was a solid pass rusher and run defender, but without Merriman drawing all the attention and the DL keeping him pretty clean he's proven himself to be JAG. In the secondary Cromartie was a guy I thought was very over-rated for them because of his Peytonceptions and Cason never became the stud a lot of people thought he would.

They were a talented team who had a number of star players, but I always felt that they had a lot of very average to mediocre players that were covered for by the greatness of their studs; Brees/Rivers, LT, Turner/Sproles, Gates, eventually Vjax, McNeil, Jamal Williams, Merriman, Edwards and Jammer.

[CashmoneyDrew]

So... Bud Adams just came out and publicly said he wants Peyton Manning to be a Titan.

Oh boy.

[Rosebud]

So... Bud Adams just came out and publicly said he wants Peyton Manning to be a Titan.

Oh boy.

I would love to see Locker get to learn from watching Peyton for a couple years. I was a big fan of his coming out and having Peyton mentor him would be just perfect for the kid, and I thought Hasselback was already a great guy for that role.

[vidae]

You guys take Peyton, we'll take Locker.

**** I just want a franchise QB of any sort, even a young, inexperienced one. fml. :(

edit: No, that does not include Tebow! Sorry njx!

[CashmoneyDrew]

We'll trade you Hasselbeck for Eric Berry.

[Caddy]

You guys take Peyton, we'll take Locker.

**** I just want a franchise QB of any sort, even a young, inexperienced one. fml. :(

edit: No, that does not include Tebow! Sorry njx!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ze8GOnmQMd0/Tb6ltOuTl2I/AAAAAAAAAx0/UX09-kDjm94/s1600/stanzibush.jpg

[Vikes99ej]

The Cardinals.

[Rosebud]

You guys take Peyton, we'll take Locker.

**** I just want a franchise QB of any sort, even a young, inexperienced one. fml. :(

edit: No, that does not include Tebow! Sorry njx!

Nah, you guys should re-sign Orton and try to get Hasselback if they get Peyton and then have a QB competition between Hass, Neckbeard and Cassel to determine who will be the greatest mediocre armed QB in KC!

[vidae]

Nah, you guys should re-sign Orton and try to get Hasselback if they get Peyton and then have a QB competition between Hass, Neckbeard and Cassel to determine who will be the greatest mediocre armed QB in KC!


You just made me really sad. :(

[b316]

Manning and Wiz getting in a car together and driving off in their toyota SUV. After 6 hrs.

[fenikz]

think people are following them?

Bidwells, Coaches and Fitz were all at the meeting, what do you for 6 1/2 hours

[vidae]

Talk about what an amazing opportunity it will be to play for the Kansas City Chiefs I imagine!

In a bit of breaking news, Peyton Manning took a dump AND ate breakfast today.

[Brodeur]

Talk about what an amazing opportunity it will be to play for the Kansas City Chiefs I imagine!

In a bit of breaking news, Peyton Manning took a dump AND ate breakfast today.

How do you know he isn't constipated?

[GoRavens]

I think Peyton and Reggie Wayne want to do a combo type deal.
Let's face it, Wayne is Peyton's go to guy and if a team is desperate enough to sign Manning, they might as well sign his favorite f/a WR.
Peyton wants to compete and he needs a lot of weapons, especially at TE.
I've been saying Miami is the best landing spot for awhile now, if not Arizona is appealing as well

[vidae]

Adam Schefter witnessed the dump in question and he is the one who broke the story.. plus he's always right!

[LonghornsLegend]

How is Denver a front runner if reports are true of him not wanting to play in the snow? I don't really see why he would want to pick them other then respect for John Elway.


I also don't know why there isn't a bigger interest in Seattle. That said though, there isn't a big reason to not play for Arizona. Dome, Fitzgerald, meeting over.

[vidae]

How is Denver a front runner if reports are true of him not wanting to play in the snow? I don't really see why he would want to pick them other then respect for John Elway.


I also don't know why there isn't a bigger interest in Seattle. That said though, there isn't a big reason to not play for Arizona. Dome, Fitzgerald, meeting over

Bad offensive line, no real running game to speak of..

[Brodeur]

Bad offensive line, no real running game to speak of..

Beanie Wells is solid at worst when healthy, and had some pretty beastly games last year. So yes, they do have a running game.

[b316]

and the guy that is behind Wells isn't to bad. Well we have yet to see him play a meaningful NFL game.

[njx9]

How is Denver a front runner if reports are true of him not wanting to play in the snow? I don't really see why he would want to pick them other then respect for John Elway.

fwiw, we don't really have that many snow games.

[vidae]

Beanie Wells is solid at worst when healthy, and had some pretty beastly games last year. So yes, they do have a running game.

and the guy that is behind Wells isn't to bad. Well we have yet to see him play a meaningful NFL game.

Beanie Wells is ok, but they have a crappy offensive line which in turn hurts their running game.

fwiw, we don't really have that many snow games.

Weather isn't a HUGE issue for KC games either, but people like to throw that around too!

[fenikz]

@Gambo620
Just got off phone so in nutshell I'm hearing that unless bidwill screws this up peyton should be a card. Nothing done yet!! but promising

muahahahahahha

[DoughBoy]

Lies! Peyton wants to come home so he can party with Kenny Chesney. Some guy on the radio just told me so!

[San Diego Chicken]

Chargers ****** up so bad by not winning anything during that entire period. They were stacked, I especially remember the defense. They had talent almost every where except maybe WR that I can remember. I didn't and still don't understand getting rid of Marty. I know he struggled in the playoffs but at least he was for sure getting there each time.

No way they kept Brees though after he jacked his shoulder in the last game of the season, needed a new big contract & they had a young top drafted QB waiting.


Winning a Super Bowl isn't a piece of cake, and the Chargers aren't the only "talented" team in recent years that hasn't won one or even reached one. Dallas, Minnesota, Philadelphia, Kansas City, Tennessee, I can think of several great teams they had that didn't win a ring. Because as we all know, the difference between the top teams and the bottom feeders in the NFL is the smallest of all the pro sports, and talent doesn't always win.

[b316]

yeah but for the super trade you made for rivers and the talent you had for so long, what happened?

Its all cause you fired marty ball.

[OzTitan]

I don't think the Titans are a realistic option, even if Bud takes control (again). Maybe as an absolute last resort, but read between the lines in the Tennessean article - Condon is cautious because he knows just because Bud wants it doesn't mean the Titans FO do. Bud can force the FO to request he is brought in and force an offer, but he can't force Manning and Condon to accept it knowing the FO wants to run with Matt H and Locker.

Besides, there are better options for Peyton supporting cast wise.

[BeerBaron]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/report-chiefs-seahawks-out-of-the-manning-chase/


According to Mike Klis of the Post, the Seahawks and Chiefs are out.

Both teams wanted to meet with Manning, and in each case Manning declined.

[San Diego Chicken]

yeah but for the super trade you made for rivers and the talent you had for so long, what happened?

Its all cause you fired marty ball.

How many Super Bowls did Marty S. reach? We could play this game all day. He's a good coach but not a championship level coach. He'd have a job now if he were a championship level coach.

[BeerBaron]

How many Super Bowls did Marty S. reach? We could play this game all day. He's a good coach but not a championship level coach. He'd have a job now if he were a championship level coach.

You replaced him with Norv Turner. All further arguments are invalid.

The Chargers done ****** up yo.

[vidae]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/report-chiefs-seahawks-out-of-the-manning-chase/

Hah, excuse me if I don't find a reporter for the Denver Post to be credible. :sarcastic:

[Finsfan79]

well he is flying to miami and supposedly we get the last sales pitch tomorrow :)

great defense
good offensive system
best left tackle
solid wr core
wayne wants to be here too
lives here already (family likes it here)
best weather (yes better then arizona, dry heat sucks and you get cold at night, we are always winters of 70s and dry then)
no state income tax
just like elway he is good friends with marino (that talk is bs either way imo)
historic franchise that is looking for a "savior" to take them to the big game finally

[njx9]

ITT, everyone's a homer.

[vidae]

ITT, everyone's a homer.

Hah, no kidding. It isn't a shock to you, is it? It's Peyton Manning!

[Ness]

well he is flying to miami and supposedly we get the last sales pitch tomorrow :)

great defense
good offensive system
best left tackle
solid wr core
wayne wants to be here too
lives here already (family likes it here)
best weather (yes better then arizona, dry heat sucks and you get cold at night, we are always winters of 70s and dry then)
no state income tax
just like elway he is good friends with marino (that talk is bs either way imo)
historic franchise that is looking for a "savior" to take them to the big game finally

Well the weather wouldn't be a factor in Arizona during an actual home game. There are actual hurricanes in Miami every so often. That could be annoying. And I don't see winters being a problem even in Manning's daily life in Arizona. I'm sure he could afford a heater in his home.

[vidae]

And again, the Dolphins have to travel to play the Jets, Patriots, and Bills. Not exactly sunshiney conditions at the end of the year.

[Ness]

But God forbid Manning having to walk to his air conditioned car in the smouldering heat.

[Caddy]

Vidae has such a big man crush on Peyton. It's so cute.

[njx9]

dry heat sucks

unrelated, but that's the most ridiculously silly thing i've ever heard. are you actually trying to make the first positive argument in world history for hot, muggy weather?

[BeerBaron]

Hot, muggy weather is completely godawful. I would rather it be winter year round than deal with hot, muggy weather.

[vidae]

Vidae has such a big man crush on Peyton. It's so cute.

It isn't even that. I'll admit that I'm a Peyton Manning fan, but the driving force behind my fanaticism for him is my hatred of Matt Cassel. I can't stand him. This team has so many talented pieces and we're forced to trot that turd sandwich out at QB every week and it's killing me! It's KILLING ME CADDY.

[Finsfan79]

unrelated, but that's the most ridiculously silly thing i've ever heard. are you actually trying to make the first positive argument in world history for hot, muggy weather?

Been in both multiple times in arizona and florida. I found the humidity better then zero humidity personally. (that was a personal opinion I know alot of folks feel the opposite).


I do have to say it will be funny in a way if after all this he ends up never cleared medically (sad for the career to end that way), but all this media craziness would be amusing if it ended up for nothing.

I would not trust anything right now for media sources as the only one that really knows what is going on in manning's head is manning. Everything else is fed to the media by agents on purpose or made up for stories since half of the newspaper and espn individuals are full of crap

[fenikz]

The purpose of sweat is to evaporate and cool you off. I don't see how that not happening could be comfortable

[Finsfan79]

The purpose of sweat is to evaporate and cool you off. I don't see how that not happening could be comfortable

summer time we have humidity (ironically when he lives here right now). Winter time we have little to no humidity or rain.

[Caddy]

It isn't even that. I'll admit that I'm a Peyton Manning fan, but the driving force behind my fanaticism for him is my hatred of Matt Cassel. I can't stand him. This team has so many talented pieces and we're forced to trot that turd sandwich out at QB every week and it's killing me! It's KILLING ME CADDY.

Fineee. Trade up with us and get Tannehill. We will take eight first round picks.

[T-RICH49]

great now we're stuck with Matt Freaking Cassel at QB.I hate my life

[BeerBaron]

great now we're stuck with Matt Freaking Cassel at QB.I hate my life

Maybe for only like...one more year.

[T-RICH49]

Maybe for only like...one more year.

that's one too many.3 years was enough for me

[WCH]

I would not trust anything right now for media sources as the only one that really knows what is going on in manning's head is manning. Everything else is fed to the media by agents on purpose or made up for stories since half of the newspaper and espn individuals are full of crap

I agree. He's probably not even talking to his father about anything important, since Archie seems to share Favre's problem of not being able to keep his mouth shut if somebody shoves a microphone in his face.

[Diehard]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/if-cards-want-manning-theyll-need-to-scramble-to-create-cap-space/


The Cardinals are $16.4 million over the cap, as adjusted to reflect $2 million in 2011 carryover and $1.333 million in downward adjustments.

Amazingly, the Cardinals could have carried over $7.04 million. They opted only to carry over $2 million.

If they’d carried over the full amount, the Cardinals would have had to clear only $11.4 million by Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. ET. More importantly, the Cardinals would have had an extra $5 million to pay Manning.

For the Cardinals, the challenge will be to clear $16.4 million and then enough beyond that to fit Peyton’s contract under the cap.


I have to assume they have a plan already laid out to do with this, as well as free up space for whatever cronies Peyton wants to bring along.

[dan77733]

What I dont understand is why the Cardinals only opted to carry over $2m instead of the entire $7m+. But whatever.

[Roddoliver]

I have to assume they have a plan already laid out to do with this, as well as free up space for whatever cronies Peyton wants to bring along.

I don't even know if they will be able to do it. They have to clear $16.4 million, then find more room to add Manning's salary, and still sign some other free agents + their draft picks. Who will they cut? Their LT that was going to protect Manning's blindside?

[Scotty D]

How much do they save from cutting Levi Brown? Isn't he making 18 million or so?

[LonghornsLegend]

I don't even know if they will be able to do it. They have to clear $16.4 million, then find more room to add Manning's salary, and still sign some other free agents + their draft picks. Who will they cut? Their LT that was going to protect Manning's blindside?

We should all know by now that the salary cap can be manipulated to make signings happen, Snyder has done it for years. Do you guys really think they rolled out the red carpet for Peyton only to go "oh yea, our cap is strapped this year, so nevermind about this whole signing thing".


I don't know who they can fit in after him, but there is no way in hell they haven't already come up with a plan after putting on the full court press.

[WMD]

Lions don't need Peyton Manning.. we've got MATT F'N STAFFORD.

Just sayin.

P.S. Peyton should go to Miami.

[fenikz]

your mom should go to miami...so dg can plow her...*****

[zachsaints52]

your mom should go to miami...so dg can plow her...*****

Oh no he didnt!

[TitanHope]

Titans owner Bud Adams wants Peyton Manning, and says he is prepared to make a competitive offer to get him.

The issue, of course, is whether the four-time NFL Most Valuable Player wants the Titans.

Adams told The Tennessean on Sunday he has contacted Manning’s agent, Tom Condon, and is pushing for the quarterback to visit the Titans.

“He is the man I want. Period,” Adams said by phone from Houston. “And the people that work for me understand that. They know who I want. I want Mr. Manning with the Titans and I will be disappointed if it doesn’t happen.”

...

“I want him to be with me the rest of his working period of his life, even when he doesn’t want to play anymore,” Adams said. “I want him to come to work for us as long as he lives.”

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120311/SPORTS01/120311018/Titans-owner-Bud-Adams-wants-sign-Peyton-Manning

Is Bud senile at this point or is he up to something?

Adams then took out a gun and started randomly firing into the crowd of reporters. As if that last quote wasn't alarming enough.

[Diehard]

http://twitter.com/#!/VicLombardi/status/179050029015773184


Just heard from my peoples. Broncos now 95% confident he'll sign with Denver. Their number, not mine.


He's been all over this story since the start and his source hasn't been wrong up to this point.

I guess we'll know soon enough.

[Diehard]

http://twitter.com/#!/VicLombardi/status/179051280000499712


RT @MileHighMonday: Why so confident... what changed?----Broncos were contacted by manning TONIGHT


Hmm. That sounds promising.

[Mufasa]

Well I guess Colt=>Bronco is the natural progression.

[Brown Leader]

http://twitter.com/#!/VicLombardi/status/179051280000499712



Hmm. That sounds promising.

^Yes. Threw this up in the wrong thread so ....Hawk fans?


If by some chance Denver signs Manning, then it might be interesting. In that case I think Tebow could actually be traded to Seattle. The Seahawks are really only a capable QB away from contending. Tebow has a ways to go before that but he's shown at least more than Tavaris. In this case, again Tannehill drops and could still be a target for Denver if Cleveland opts to pass at #22.

[Scotty D]

The Jags owner wants Tebow. One way to sell tickets in Jacksonville.

[njx9]

The Jags owner wants Tebow. One way to sell tickets in Jacksonville.

our idiot fans on the team boards have been suggesting we trade tebow for gabbert.

[killxswitch]

Why would any team trade for Tebow?

[BeerBaron]

our idiot fans on the team boards have been suggesting we trade tebow for gabbert.

I'll never not laugh when I read something like that.

[fenikz]

make lots of money

[BeerBaron]

make lots of money

Will people still pay to see him when he's sitting on the bench or, at best, playing fullback?

[Diehard]

The Jags owner wants Tebow. One way to sell tickets in Jacksonville.

I'm thinking the deal is in place already. There's been quite a change in attitude in the Broncos FO over the last two weeks and I wouldn't be surprised if the catalyst for that was an offer from Jacksonville.

[Brown Leader]

Gabbert vs Tebow? What a combo.

[LonghornsLegend]

Reggie Wayne isn't coming to Denver with Peyton, last thing they need. Demaryius Thomas would blow the **** up with Peyton at QB.

[T-RICH49]

I am demanding a new GM and Owner for KC IMMEDIATLY

[BeerBaron]

Reggie Wayne isn't coming to Denver with Peyton, last thing they need. Demaryius Thomas would blow the **** up with Peyton at QB.

A veteran #2 receiver who has familiarity with Peyton can always be used. The Colts were always using receivers 3 and 4 deep...I don't think it would be a waste at all and maybe those young guys like Thomas and Decker can learn a thing or two.

Bring in Dallas Clark as well since Denver doesn't really have a TE.

[BandwagonPunditry]

A veteran #2 receiver who has familiarity with Peyton can always be used. The Colts were always using receivers 3 and 4 deep...I don't think it would be a waste at all and maybe those young guys like Thomas and Decker can learn a thing or two.

Bring in Dallas Clark as well since Denver doesn't really have a TE.

TEbow?

10char

[LonghornsLegend]

A veteran #2 receiver who has familiarity with Peyton can always be used. The Colts were always using receivers 3 and 4 deep...I don't think it would be a waste at all and maybe those young guys like Thomas and Decker can learn a thing or two.

Bring in Dallas Clark as well since Denver doesn't really have a TE.


It just seems like a waste of money. Decker was headed for 10 TD's with Tim Tebow as his QB, and Thomas looks every bit the part of a dominant #1 WR in this league. Do you want Wayne getting reps ahead of either of those two? I don't. If we aren't looking at track record and going off of future production no way I'd want Wayne getting more targets then either of those two guys.


I also don't think he wants to be paid like the #3 WR. Eddie Royal would probably be cheaper and he had an electric rookie season with Jay Cutler throwing the ball.


Dallas Clark was attrocious this past year. Even Peyton won't make him get better as he gets older, he was terrible. They should address the position early in the draft or maybe Martellus Bennett? As crazy as it sounds he's about the same age as draft eligible TE's with a ton of upside.

[njx9]

I'll never not laugh when I read something like that.

i would laugh, too, if it wasn't my team. i don't actually know if this would make YFS more unhappy, or just equally unhappy.

[BeerBaron]

Decker and Thomas have also struggled with injury issues quite frequently. Wayne wouldn't be bad to have on hand.

[Complex]

Any reason given of why Peyton eliminated Seattle, KC, and Miami? Denver is like the worst out of the 5. Seattle, KC, and Miami are all better options then Denver and Arizona.

[Brown Leader]

"NFL Network's Michelle Beisner and Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post both dispute a report that free agent Peyton Manning reached out to the Broncos on Sunday.
CBS 4 Denver's Vic Lombardi reported earlier Sunday night that the Broncos were "95 percent sure" they'd sign Manning based on the fact that he reached out to them on Sunday. Lombardi's report was debunked, both by NFL Net and the Post. Per Beisner, the Broncos had no talks with Manning on Sunday and are being "respectful of his wishes and this process." Since Manning is now considered "highly unlikely" to sign by Tuesday's opening of the free agency period, we wouldn't be surprised if he took one more visit before picking a team. We would expect a decision by Wednesday."

[TonyGfortheTD]

Vic Lombardi is a ******** homer.

[dolphinfan2k5]

Wow, what a surprise. He will finish with his third visit tomorrow, as he was scheduled to do, and then he will make a decision. It's so unbelievable that a first time free agent would visit all of the teams that he wants to visit with, and then make his decision.

</sarcasm>

[BeerBaron]

There are going to be several extremely disappointed fanbases after Peyton makes up his mind. Having to deal with Matt Cassel, or Kevin Kolb, or Tim Tebow, or Matt Moore knowing you could have had Peyton Manning is going to be a kick in the balls.

And then I'm looking forward to those same fanbases turning right around and justifying how their current guy is just fine and they never actually liked or wanted an old, injured Peyton anyway. "Hell, he might not even be healthy enough to play..." they'll say.

Gotta love the internet.

[njx9]

And then I'm looking forward to those same fanbases turning right around and justifying how their current guy is just fine and they never actually liked or wanted an old, injured Peyton anyway. "Hell, he might not even be healthy enough to play..." they'll say.

i don't think this describes most of the KC/Denver fanbase. i guess there is that one KC fan who likes matt cassell.

[TonyGfortheTD]

I don't think any Chiefs fans will say they are reasonably fine with Cassel. The risk in Peyton is there, but I think the risk/reward in an old Peyton is better than whatever Cassel could offer.

[Brodeur]

There are going to be several extremely disappointed fanbases after Peyton makes up his mind. Having to deal with Matt Cassel, or Kevin Kolb, or Tim Tebow, or Matt Moore knowing you could have had Peyton Manning is going to be a kick in the balls.

And then I'm looking forward to those same fanbases turning right around and justifying how their current guy is just fine and they never actually liked or wanted an old, injured Peyton anyway. "Hell, he might not even be healthy enough to play..." they'll say.

Gotta love the internet.

Matt Moore is the man.

[T-RICH49]

There are going to be several extremely disappointed fanbases after Peyton makes up his mind. Having to deal with Matt Cassel, or Kevin Kolb, or Tim Tebow, or Matt Moore knowing you could have had Peyton Manning is going to be a kick in the balls.

And then I'm looking forward to those same fanbases turning right around and justifying how their current guy is just fine and they never actually liked or wanted an old, injured Peyton anyway. "Hell, he might not even be healthy enough to play..." they'll say.

Gotta love the internet.

guarantee you won't hear any chiefs fans defend Cassel.everyone is ready for him to go

[Brothgar]

guarantee you won't hear any chiefs fans defend Cassel.everyone is ready for him to go

Its OK Ricky Stanzi is the NEXT PEYTON!

[vidae]

guarantee you won't hear any chiefs fans defend Cassel.everyone is ready for him to go

Except for Nepg, no Chiefs fan will say anything like that. None of us will be happy about Cassel starting at QB. We all ******* hate him.

[BeerBaron]

Alright, maybe not Cassel or Tebow, but the teams will do something like sign Flynn or draft Tannehill and will start talking about how that is preferred to old, injured Peyton.

When it's definitely not.

[vidae]

Yeah, they're going to make excuses and call Peyton over the hill, but Peyton is still a monster. Ugh. I just don't want him to be a Bronco.

[Brodeur]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16106312.jpg

Best I could come up with in 42 seconds.

[bantx]

At this point I'll take back my seahawk guess and say cardinals since it's between cards and broncos now. Keep him out of the AFC west, lets agree on that vidae ok? cool /hugs

[njx9]

Yeah, they're going to make excuses and call Peyton over the hill, but Peyton is still a monster. Ugh. I just don't want him to be a Bronco.

i oddly feel similarly. though i also don't want to reward cardinals fans. all 12 of them. and i don't want dg to be happy, but at least that would piss off patriots fans, so it might be worth it.

[BeerBaron]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16106312.jpg

Best I could come up with in 42 seconds.

Give it another year or two and maybe the Chiefs can get their next old wash-up QB when the Patriots do that thing they do where they trade a guy just before he starts to go downhill with Brady.

Three firsts seems reasonable. Then Mallett can go crazy in that offense.

[Brodeur]

i oddly feel similarly. though i also don't want to reward cardinals fans. all 12 of them. and i don't want dg to be happy, but at least that would piss off patriots fans, so it might be worth it.

The Cards have plenty of fans. There's Fenikz, that cardsalltheway guy/girl (I'm not sure if this was ever cleared up), Jensen, AdrianWilson something, Stranger, UkCards guy, and umm....like 5 Mexicans in Arizona.

[Rosebud]

your mom should go to miami...so dg can plow her...*****

Well that's just a mean thing to say. Mrs. WMD is a quality lay, and no quality lay should be forced to get plowed by...dg *shudders*

Demaryius Thomas would blow the **** up with Peyton at QB.

Not if they keep Tebow around for his magical healing properties.

[njx9]

The Cards have plenty of fans. There's Fenikz, that cardsalltheway guy/girl (I'm not sure if this was ever cleared up), Jensen, AdrianWilson something, Stranger, UkCards guy, and umm....like 5 Mexicans in Arizona.

jensen is a cardinals fan?

[Brodeur]

jensen is a cardinals fan?

I thought he was.

[T-RICH49]

Except for Nepg, no Chiefs fan will say anything like that. None of us will be happy about Cassel starting at QB. We all ******* hate him.

Matt Cassel is the new Elvis Grbac for Chiefs fans

[vidae]

It's just another piece in a long line of garbage retread QBs the Chiefs have had. It was Grbac and Bono and Montana (who was decent) and etc etc etc. It hasn't changed in 40 years and it won't change now.

That is the worst part about being a Chiefs fan. We'll always be mediocre and we'll always be out of it before it starts.

[AHungryWalrus]

It's just another piece in a long line of garbage retread QBs the Chiefs have had. It was Grbac and Bono and Montana (who was decent) and etc etc etc. It hasn't changed in 40 years and it won't change now.

That is the worst part about being a Chiefs fan. We'll always be mediocre and we'll always be out of it before it starts.

You had a couple years there with Trent and The Priest. You didn't win anything legitimate or anything... but that was better than mediocre!

[vidae]

We won nothing significant. You know how many playoff games Trent Green won in KC? Zero. The last time we won a playoff game was with Joe Montana. We haven't drafted a QB in the first round and developed him since 1983. Those are related for a reason.

It's no different. Nothing has changed in 40+ years, and nothing will change until we decide to stop being fine with mediocrity.

[OSUGiants17]

We won nothing significant. You know how many playoff games Trent Green won in KC? Zero. The last time we won a playoff game was with Joe Montana. We haven't drafted a QB in the first round and developed him since 1983. Those are related for a reason.

It's no different. Nothing has changed in 40+ years, and nothing will change until we decide to stop being fine with mediocrity.

How about this vidae? We will trade you David Carr, not only a 1st round QB, but a #1 overall pick, for you guys to develop(he still needs some developing), for the low price of 1 Jammal Charles or 1 Eric Berry. It's your choice.

[CJSchneider]

We won nothing significant. You know how many playoff games Trent Green won in KC? Zero. The last time we won a playoff game was with Joe Montana. We haven't drafted a QB in the first round and developed him since 1983. Those are related for a reason.

It's no different. Nothing has changed in 40+ years, and nothing will change until we decide to stop being fine with mediocrity.

Jim Kelly and Dan Marino are still thanking you from the bottoms of their hearts.

[Splat]

Jim Kelly and Dan Marino are still thanking you from the bottoms of their hearts.

How many SB's did they win?

[WCH]

Sorry, Chiefs fans...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/12/manning-not-expected-to-visit-any-more-teams/

Appearing on SportsCenter Monday morning, Schefter stated repeatedly that Manning won’t be taking any more free agent visits. Schefter explained that Manning “does not want to make this into a Reggie White tour,” and is already familiar with the Dolphins’ facility because the Colts used it during their two Super Bowl appearances in Miami.

Schefter called the Broncos the “favorites,” while acknowledging that the Cardinals are still “in contention.” The Dolphins seem to have been pushed to the backburner, though, since the South Florida frenzy that left Manning wary of joining Stephen Ross and Jeff Ireland’s team.

I'm not sure what's wrong with a "Reggie White tour." White wound up with a gigantic contract and played in two Super Bowls after picking a dark horse team...

[njx9]

what south florida frenzy?

[WCH]

I think I read that reporters in helicopters were following him around Miami, or something.

Then again, it's PFT. You know how they exaggerate crap.

[b316]

So Seahawks are out of it.

Come on 49ers, be the darkhorse I picked.


I think he'll go with the Cards since Wiz will let him have some control over the playbook and what plays they should include that play to his strengths. They did that with Kurt Warner, and we all know how much Manning loves to be in control. Also you don't want to go against Tebow in Denver, that is a lose-lose situation.

[vidae]

I'm starting to think it's ridiculous that a free agent has to visit a teams facility to be in the hunt for them. Nnamdi didn't visit the Eagles, did he? And he was signed.

I dunno. I'm not very optimistic but until it's a done deal I will hold out hope!

[Brent]

that cardsalltheway guy/girl (I'm not sure if this was ever cleared up)
Wasn't it a guy pretending to be a girl, or was it the other way around?

[draftguru151]

I think it was aq pretending to be a guy pretending to be a girl.

[T-RICH49]

Miami out of Manning race now.please got to AZ Peyton.Fitzgerald >>>>all DEN WR's

[SolidGold]

I think if Manning ends up in AZ he will get Reggie Wayne to follow

[killxswitch]

I think if Manning ends up in AZ he will get Reggie Wayne to follow

I'm not so sure AZ has the cap space to pay both of them.

[T-RICH49]

scratch last post guy who said they were out just corrected himself.GO MIA or AZ

[Razor]

Miami is out of the running for Manning (https://twitter.com/#!/SC_DougFarrar/status/179251575825510401)

[njx9]

Miami out of Manning race now.please got to AZ Peyton.Fitzgerald >>>>all DEN WR's

i'm starting to be more entertained by KC fans willing manning out of the division than by the whole prospect of signing him to replace tebow.

[killxswitch]

NFL fans when Manning is a Colt: "Overrated. Choker. Look at his forehead. More like fivehead. I hate that guy."

NFL fans when Manning is a free agent: "OMG WE GOTTA GET PAYTONZZZ"

[njx9]

NFL fans when Manning is a Colt: "Overrated. Choker. Look at his forehead. More like fivehead. I hate that guy."

NFL fans when Manning is a free agent: "OMG WE GOTTA GET PAYTONZZZ"

hey now, i always picked manning in the annual brady vs. manning threads.

and you have to admit: his forehead is massive.

[Complex]

Miami is out of the running for Manning (https://twitter.com/#!/SC_DougFarrar/status/179251575825510401)

Its says they are both in and out of the Manning race.

[vidae]

i'm starting to be more entertained by KC fans willing manning out of the division than by the whole prospect of signing him to replace tebow.

Haha. I don't want him to go to Denver because this division is up for grabs with Tebow as the starter, but if he did end up signing there whatevs. We'd deal with it.

[PackerLegend]

I'm not so sure AZ has the cap space to pay both of them.

I saw this morning that there 16 million over. So if they get under they could barely afford peyton.... and nobody else.

[A Perfect Score]

NFL fans when Manning is a Colt: "Overrated. Choker. Look at his forehead. More like fivehead. I hate that guy."

NFL fans when Manning is a free agent: "OMG WE GOTTA GET PAYTONZZZ"

Just because he isn't as good as Brady doesn't mean he's not a significant upgrade for 90% of the teams in the NFL. I'm not clamoring for him on the Ravens, but if I woke up tomorrow and saw "Ravens sign Peyton Manning!" I'd probably be pretty stoked. And that's coming from someone who is a Manning detractor.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Looking like the Titans are gonna get a visit from Peyton Manning in the next day or two.

[A Perfect Score]

Looking like the Titans are gonna get a visit from Peyton Manning in the next day or two.

NFL.com reported that he turned down visits to the Chiefs and Seahawks, too. Sad Panda for vidae. It's one thing to not schedule a visit, it's another thing entirely to turn one down.

[zachsaints52]

NFL.com reported that he turned down visits to the Chiefs and Seahawks, too. Sad Panda for vidae. It's one thing to not schedule a visit, it's another thing entirely to turn one down.

Peyton knows a lost cause when he sees one. His neck is hurt, not his eyes.

[Complex]

Peyton knows a lost cause when he sees one. His neck is hurt, not his eyes.

LoL

Looking like the Titans are gonna get a visit from Peyton Manning in the next day or two.

Sad Panda, do not want.

[Damix]

Are the Colts on Denver's or Arizona's schedule this year?

[Shane P. Hallam]

Nope. Colts have:

AFC South
@NE
@NYJ
vs. BUF
vs. MIA
@CHI
@DET
vs. GB
vs. MIN
@CLE
vs. KC

[Complex]

The South Florida Sun-Sentinel's Omar Kelly claims free agent Peyton Manning will visit the Texans.

Anyone want Matt Schuab?

[zachsaints52]

How will the Texans manage that contract?

[A Perfect Score]

How will the Texans manage that contract?

Let Williams walk and move Schaub. Peyton already said he'd take an incentive laden deal if he feels the situation is right. Top 3 run game, offensive line and receiver, Top 5 defense....dear god Houston would be terrifying.

[FlyingElvis]

Let Williams walk and move Schaub. Peyton already said he'd take an incentive laden deal if he feels the situation is right. Top 3 run game, offensive line and receiver, Top 5 defense....dear god Houston would be terrifying.

Very. Plus, he'd get to ram it down Irsay's throat twice a year. Even if he said he's always a Colt, the ego is a powerful thing.

[zachsaints52]

Let Williams walk and move Schaub. Peyton already said he'd take an incentive laden deal if he feels the situation is right. Top 3 run game, offensive line and receiver, Top 5 defense....dear god Houston would be terrifying.

I thought they was letting Mario walk because they can't afford him? Schaub is in the last year of his contract, so maybe a team would trade for him.

[vidae]

NFL.com reported that he turned down visits to the Chiefs and Seahawks, too. Sad Panda for vidae. It's one thing to not schedule a visit, it's another thing entirely to turn one down.

They cite a Denver columnist for that. Who knows if that is accurate? And again, why does a FA have to visit a team and their facilities to sign there?

Peyton knows a lost cause when he sees one. His neck is hurt, not his eyes.

Speaking of lost causes, how are the Saints doin bro?

[WCH]

I thought they was letting Mario walk because they can't afford him? Schaub is in the last year of his contract, so maybe a team would trade for him.

If I'm KC, Seattle, or Miami; Schaub seems like a better consolation prize than Matt Flynn, IMO (the age difference not withstanding).

I doubt he has the star power to get Denver fans on board with dumping Timmy, though.

[Sloopy]

They cite a Denver columnist for that. Who knows if that is accurate? And again, why does a FA have to visit a team and their facilities to sign there?

What's funny is that I believe his source in the main article was listed as "Someone."

I don't buy this story for a second.

I doubt Manning makes the conscientious decision to put his health in the hands of Levi Brown. They can promise to add a LT in this draft but the line as a whole still isn't great.

Fitz would be a nice target but I really wouldn't think of this as a place to make one or two end of career super bowl runs. No offense Zona fans.

Broncos make some sense and I'm sure that Elway is looking at this as possibly his only opportunity in the near future to dethrone Tebow without being chased out of town by a mob of angry fanboys.

We will see what happens but I would venture to say that there are more appealing teams than these two and I assume Manning's primary goal will be to get another ring before he retires.

EDIT:

Can't find the original article but: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-seahawks-chiefs-manning-sweepstakes-012740075.html

What Klis reported, after speaking to someone, is that the Seattle Seahawks and Kansas City Chiefs are out of the running.

I know that most if not all of "news reports" revolving around these kinds of topics sight "someone close to..." but I just find it funny that it actually just says "someone"

"After talking to the homeless guy outside of his office, Klis reported that..."

[49erNation85]

Come on SF don't be shy just do it already!!

[zachsaints52]

Speaking of lost causes, how are the Saints doin bro?

Brees is doing fine, hows Cassel?

If I'm KC, Seattle, or Miami; Schaub seems like a better consolation prize than Matt Flynn, IMO (the age difference not withstanding).

I doubt he has the star power to get Denver fans on board with dumping Timmy, though.

I agree with this. I just don't see Seattle doing it, but the other two would.

[vidae]

Brees is doing fine, hows Cassel?

Brees? Oh, the guy who refuses to sign his franchise tender, on the team that is being investigated for trying to harm other players for pay, all while losing Nicks, Meachem, and Colston. Yeah, you guys are in a great situation right now. :njx:

[TACKLE]

Brees is doing fine, hows Cassel?

You say Peyton doesn't want to go to KC because they are a "lost cause" but now your implying that the team's issue is their QB (the position Peyton Manning happens to play btw).

:facepalm:

[zachsaints52]

Brees? Oh, the guy who refuses to sign his franchise tender, on the team that is being investigated for trying to harm other players for pay, all while losing Nicks, Meachem, and Colston. Yeah, you guys are in a great situation right now. :njx:

I wasn't trying to say the teams, I meant Brees is doing great. Silly im not trying to think about the impending doom that is this offseason.

[DoughBoy]

If Peyton goes to Houston, that will mean Bud Adams will be pissed and probably sign Mario Williams to one-up them. Go houston!

[Complex]

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports free agent Peyton Manning will meet with Dolphins coach Joe Philbin and Titans coach Mike Munchak within the next three days. - mortreport

[Da-Phins]

- mortreport

But but but...I thought everyone and their mothers said the Dolphins were out of the hunt?....

Yeah shows how much people know.

[Razor]

The Texans' interest in Manning puzzles me. How will Manning fit into an offense that uses athletic QBs to roll out of the pocket and throwing on the run? He wouldn't. And that OL is, despite being a great ZB OL, not able to consistently deliver a clean pocket for Manning. Why are teams jizzing so much over Manning when they have a perfectly capable QB in place already? This is getting ridiculous.

[Fico]

The Texans' interest in Manning puzzles me. How will Manning fit into an offense that uses athletic QBs to roll out of the pocket and throwing on the run? He wouldn't. And that OL is, despite being a great ZB OL, not able to consistently deliver a clean pocket for Manning. Why are teams jizzing so much over Manning when they have a perfectly capable QB in place already? This is getting ridiculous.

Schuab is less athletic than Manning. Mannings' bread and butter was the zone stretch and play action off of that. There is nothing in the Texans offense that Mannning could not run better than Schuab, if he is in fact healthy.

Teams are jizzing over Manning because, if he is healthy, he is much better than the players they have on the roster at the position.

[njx9]

yeah, i'm not totally sure that i buy now-peyton in kubiak's offense, unless it's core has dramatically changed over the last couple of years (which is completely possible, i don't see a lot of texans games).

[WCH]

Why are teams jizzing so much over Manning?

Because it's Peyton Manning that we're talking about . That question really answers itself.

[Ness]

Schuab is less athletic than Manning. Mannings' bread and butter was the zone stretch and play action off of that. There is nothing in the Texans offense that Mannning could not run better than Schuab, if he is in fact healthy.

Teams are jizzing over Manning because, if he is healthy, he is much better than the players they have on the roster at the position.

Whoa what? Schaub has been used to rolling out on bootlegs for like 7 years now. This was never a staple of Manning's offense. The Texans were doing fine with Schaub up until he got hurt. Manning, might be an upgrade over him, but really...it's not worth the investment. Schaub is also a passing threat and in my opinion one of the most underrated quarterbacks in the NFL. He's only 32 and doesn't have neck problems. Not worth screwing up continuity when you already have a younger, experienced quarterback that has been in the same offense for a good amount of years.

[njx9]

John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For the umpteenth time, Texans are not involved in Manning sweepstakes. Keep reading national reports saying they are, but they aren't.


who the hell is john mcclain?

[CashmoneyDrew]

John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For the umpteenth time, Texans are not involved in Manning sweepstakes. Keep reading national reports saying they are, but they aren't.


who the hell is john mcclain?

Big time football guy in Houston. Knows a lot about Bud Adams and the old Oilers franchise as well so local radio stations often have him on as a guest.

[Nalej]

John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For the umpteenth time, Texans are not involved in Manning sweepstakes. Keep reading national reports saying they are, but they aren't.


who the hell is john mcclain?

http://www.mediamikes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Bruce-Willis-Die-Hard.jpg

Seriously?

[SolidGold]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldw1d8URXB1qzrudv.jpg

[TitanHope]

John McClain ‏ @McClain_on_NFL Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
For the umpteenth time, Texans are not involved in Manning sweepstakes. Keep reading national reports saying they are, but they aren't.


who the hell is john mcclain?

You'd recognize him. Has a, well, highly noticeable weight problem. Inhales really big right before he says anything. Usually on NFL Network talking about the Houston Oilers when they do their Top 10 and other listing specials.

Also, basically looks like the dude on the right:

http://blog.chron.com/fanblogtexans/files/legacy/IMG00126-20090831-1833.jpg

And by basically looks like, I mean is the actual person.

[Ness]

who the hell is john mcclain?

He's a reporter for the Houston Chronicle. Been around a while. Seems to know his stuff. Sometimes he's on NFL Network's Top Ten.

http://www.plimptonmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mcclain_john2.jpg

[njx9]

Seriously?

nah, that's the douchebag from unbreakable who never learned how to swim.

[TitanHope]

http://www.plimptonmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mcclain_john2.jpg

http://blog.chron.com/fanblogtexans/files/legacy/IMG00126-20090831-1833.jpg

...maybe it's a thyroid issue?

[Nalej]

nah, that's the douchebag from unbreakable who never learned how to swim.

Take it back!
He bench pressed everything in the room!

[vidae]

...maybe it's a thyroid issue?

Maybe it's a Houston has good food issue?

[Nalej]

...maybe it's a thyroid issue?

I think he's just fat.

[Brodeur]

...maybe it's a thyroid issue?

Now I know what a TV dinner feels like.

[Fico]

Whoa what? Schaub has been used to rolling out on bootlegs for like 7 years now. This was never a staple of Manning's offense. The Texans were doing fine with Schaub up until he got hurt. Manning, might be an upgrade over him, but really...it's not worth the investment. Schaub is also a passing threat and in my opinion one of the most underrated quarterbacks in the NFL. He's only 32 and doesn't have neck problems. Not worth screwing up continuity when you already have a younger, experienced quarterback that has been in the same offense for a good amount of years.

Mannings zone stretch play action required the same amount of mobility as Schaub's bootlegs. Its not like Schaub is beating anyone to the corner, he is rolling usually unprotected setting his feet and throwing.

Schaub doesn't have neck problems but he did have a serious foot injury which could impair his mobility more. If Manning is > Shcaub how is it now worth the investment. The Texans would have to trade Schaub and then have Manning accept a deal around roughly $7mil a year. The only way this works if Schaub is traded and Manning agrees to similar deal as Schaub was receiving.

John Mclain has 0 connection in the organization since the regime change in 06. However I do no believe that Manning will be in Houston simply due to the fact that we would have to trade Schaub, and Schaub will not be able to pass a physical at this point due to his foot. It isn't happening and we are going to be forced to win the super bowl without Manning.

[Ness]

Mannings zone stretch play action required the same amount of mobility as Schaub's bootlegs. Its not like Schaub is beating anyone to the corner, he is rolling usually unprotected setting his feet and throwing.

Schaub doesn't have neck problems but he did have a serious foot injury which could impair his mobility more. If Manning is > Shcaub how is it now worth the investment. The Texans would have to trade Schaub and then have Manning accept a deal around roughly $7mil a year. The only way this works if Schaub is traded and Manning agrees to similar deal as Schaub was receiving.

John Mclain has 0 connection in the organization since the regime change in 06. However I do no believe that Manning will be in Houston simply due to the fact that we would have to trade Schaub, and Schaub will not be able to pass a physical at this point due to his foot. It isn't happening and we are going to be forced to win the super bowl without Manning.

That doesn't mean that Manning is more athletic than Schaub before his injury to his foot. I think there is a reason why they never experimented with having Manning do bootlegs. If Schaub was just too slow to the point where it wouldn't work at all, I don't think Kubiak and Dennison would have kept going with it.

Let's not forget Manning's issue with his neck and his three surgeries in the last 19 months with a fused vertebra. And he's going to be 36. And I don't see why he would take a deal that is around 7 million per year when the last contract he signed with the Colts had him receiving about 18 million a year. Alex Smith would be making more than Peyton Manning.

Manning isn't going to Houston in large part because Kubiak and company believe in Schaub. If Schaub doesn't get hurt I don't think we're even having this discussion.

[RCAChainGang]

I will never post another facebook reply to nfl.com those Colts fans a freaking ********.

[gpngc]

He met with Philbin for 5-6 hours today, per Mort.

My new odds:

Miami: 20%
Denver: 15%
Houston: 15%
Tennessee: 15%
Arizona: 15%
San Francisco: 5%
Seattle: 5%
Kansas City: 5%
Other: 5%

[CashmoneyDrew]

Damn. I should've put money on the titans when the odds first came out that had them at like 1%.

[descendency]

He met with Philbin for 5-6 hours today, per Mort.

My new odds:

Miami: 20%
Denver: 15%
Houston: 15%
Tennessee: 15%
Arizona: 15%
San Francisco: 5%
Seattle: 5%
Kansas City: 5%
Other: 5%

How is "other" 5% now? And how is Houston = Tennessee???

[BeerBaron]

I'll be surprised if he actually ends up in Miami.

[Mufasa]

I'll be surprised if he actually ends up in Miami.
Yeah, I don't see why he'd want to go battle it out with New England when he can easily win the AFC West with Denver, or the AFC South with Houston if that's actually an option. Miami is destined for Matt Flynn

[gpngc]

How is "other" 5% now? And how is Houston = Tennessee???

There's a 5% chance one of the other teams pulls a Nnamdi/Philly surprise. Maybe a team with a starter they like but negotiating out of the public view (Baltimore).

Houston and Tennesee both have a chance. In my estimation, there is a 15% chance Houston changes its mind and pursues Manning (word is he'd choose them if they wanted him) and a 15% chance Munchack convinces Manning to join the Titans tomorrow.

Based on the latest reports, rumors, and my own projections about what he'd want.

[LonghornsLegend]

There's a 5% chance one of the other teams pulls a Nnamdi/Philly surprise. Maybe a team with a starter they like but negotiating out of the public view (Baltimore).

Houston and Tennesee both have a chance. In my estimation, there is a 15% chance Houston changes its mind and pursues Manning (word is he'd choose them if they wanted him) and a 15% chance Munchack convinces Manning to join the Titans tomorrow.

Based on the latest reports, rumors, and my own projections about what he'd want.

I don't know what makes you think Houston has an equally good of a chance to sign Peyton as Denver does but I guess.

[gpngc]

I don't know what makes you think Houston has an equally good of a chance to sign Peyton as Denver does but I guess.

Because although Denver has visited with him and would love to sign him, and it seems more likely based on the media reports that he goes to Denver what I'm hearing is that all it takes is for Houston to reach out to Manning and he'd choose them.

I think there is just about an equal shot of the Texans brass realizing this and making the aggressive move to bring him in as Denver ultimately winning the sweepstakes.

I also think it's possible that Houston has been intentionally tight-lipped as to not spook Schaub and see if they can work out cap stuff behind the scenes.

They definitely DO NOT want to leak that they are actually in the sweepstakes UNLESS they know they can definitely get him. That would be a huge FU to Schaub.

And I suspect SF is doing the same (Alex Smith).

Clearly Elway doesn't care about Tebow and his confidence (faith) and Tennessee doesn't care about Hasselbeck/Locker's confidence at this point in their careers (makes sense).

[T-RICH49]

@PriscoCBS

Word I hear tonight from one league exec is Manning, Wayne & Clark may all be headed to DEN


if this happens I wanna move to NFC West

[Diehard]

http://twitter.com/#!/PriscoCBS/status/179405440491335681


The word I hear tonight from one league exec is he thinks Manning, Wayne and Clark all might be going to Denver


Prisco is a piece of **** so take it with a grain of salt.

[gpngc]

@PriscoCBS

Word I hear tonight from one league exec is Manning, Wayne & Clark may all be headed to DEN


if this happens I wanna move to NFC West

To elaborate on that:

Appearing on Total Access Monday night, NFL Network's Michael Lombardi suggested the Titans are a "viable" option for free agent Peyton Manning, but the Dolphins are not.
The Titans are "absolutely" in it, though Lombardi suspects the Dolphins won't be in the chase much longer after Monday's 5-6 hour meeting. Lombardi's colleague Jeff Darling adds that Manning is "underwhelmed with the structure in place" with the Dolphins. Meanwhile NFL Network's Albert Breer hears the Broncos are the favorites while Michelle Beisner reports the Cardinals feel "very good" about their chances. Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com hears from one league exec that Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark could join Manning in Denver.
Related: Cardinals, Broncos, Dolphins, Titans
Mar 12 - 11:11 PM


So no one knows anything substantial a this point. I doubt any of these sources are PM's camp.

[Diehard]

if this happens I wanna move to NFC West

LOL - well, this is one of the selling points for Denver... we have the cap room and don't really have a veteran presence at either WR or TE.

Then again, there's a segment of the population who don't think Clark is worth jack **** after his performance last year, but I suspect if you put him on the same team as Peyton he will somehow find a way to be productive.

[gpngc]

I guess Ryan Clady is going to win Denver the Peyton Manning sweepstakes.

No one thought that taking Clady 16th overall or whatever a few years ago would ultimately yield them one of the greatest NFL players of all time, I'm sure.

Seriously though, maybe having a cohesive OL was one of Manning's priorities...

[Brothgar]

The Phins met with Manning for 6 hours tonight. and Clady > Long?

[gpngc]

Despite the meeting with Miami, Denver has been rumored to be close to winning this thing.

All the stuff about Miami has been negative.

So yes, in regards to attracting Manning, Clady > Long. Of course I don't think JUST Clady will be the main reason he signs with Denver, if he does.

[bearsfan_51]

@PriscoCBS

Word I hear tonight from one league exec is Manning, Wayne & Clark may all be headed to DEN


if this happens I wanna move to NFC West
Well you've already moved out of 2007, so I think it should be ok.

[Ness]

I admit, it would be hilarious to see what all of the Pro-Tebow bloggers have to say if Manning comes to Denver. They'll probably curse John Elway. This is a good example:

People ask why I think John Elway is disingenuous and why I think the media totally mis-read Elway's "supportive" quotes of Tebow, and it's things like this. The Broncos don't need Manning -- they have a starting QB who got them to the playoffs under some severely limited conditions.

Beyond that, the Broncos have virtually no shot at Manning -- he doesn't want to play for them and there are plenty of other teams he would rather play for (and would be thrilled to bid up to get him). So I'm not sure I see the point in floating the idea they would want him.

All it does is (continue to) undermine Tebow.

http://www.timteblog.com/

People like this need to be silenced.

[vidae]

I'm afraid of Peyton Manning, not Wayne or Clark. Having Peyton in the division would suck, but those other two guys don't scare me much, especially not Clark.

[Brodeur]

Wayne is basically worthless at this point. Decker and Thomas are both vastly superior receivers, so they should worry any opposing fans far more.