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ChiFan24
02-17-2012, 09:32 PM
I don't get how you guys can play with fantasy teams like that....if I don't have a 10-6 or worse season every once in a while I get really pissed off that the game is too easy.

My roommate has been playing NCAA for like 10 dynasty seasons and has like a 90 game winning streak. I don't get that at all. How is that fun?

EDIT: and let me add, competitively, I am much better than my roommate. I beat him almost every time. But against the computer I'll kind of handicap what I do to keep things fair. Am I the only one that does this?

BeerBaron
02-17-2012, 09:36 PM
Sup folks. Are we waiting on something?

If I can get at least 5 people active in the #forummock channel, i'll begin.

redbills
02-17-2012, 09:37 PM
Sup folks. Are we waiting on something?

Don't think so.

SuperPacker
02-17-2012, 09:38 PM
I don't get how you guys can play with fantasy teams like that....if I don't have a 10-6 or worse season every once in a while I get really pissed off that the game is too easy.

My roommate has been playing NCAA for like 10 dynasty seasons and has like a 90 game winning streak. I don't get that at all. How is that fun?

EDIT: and let me add, competitively, I am much better than my roommate. I beat him almost every time. But against the computer I'll kind of handicap what I do to keep things fair. Am I the only one that does this?

i do the same thing. im constantly changing the setting thingy forgot what you call it, difficulty, so that i beat the teams i should and lose against the team i should. its more fun that way.

SuperPacker
02-17-2012, 09:39 PM
Sup folks. Are we waiting on something?

If I can get at least 5 people active in the #forummock channel, i'll begin.

http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.10065486.0254/fc,220x200,black.jpg

SuperPacker
02-17-2012, 09:41 PM
Let Me Back In!!!!!

redbills
02-17-2012, 09:41 PM
On iPad tried to but won't let me on.

vidae
02-17-2012, 09:44 PM
Sup folks. Are we waiting on something?

If I can get at least 5 people active in the #forummock channel, i'll begin.

In like Flynn.

redbills
02-17-2012, 09:57 PM
Any FA updates since I can get on that site?

Shane P. Hallam
02-17-2012, 09:58 PM
Any FA updates since I can get on that site?

Yes, the Chargers have signed Jeremy Zuttah.

vidae
02-17-2012, 10:00 PM
Yes, the Chargers have signed Jeremy Zuttah.

Shane you so crazy.

scottyboy
02-17-2012, 10:37 PM
STOP TOYING WITH ME ON ZUTTAH SHANE YOU ARE A JERK!

also, I'm not saying I didn't read the first post, I'm just saying, I made mainly low ball offers and will have to wait because of it. Giants are broke as hell :(

Matthew Jones
02-17-2012, 10:48 PM
Has anyone seen the media thread lately?

TACKLE
02-17-2012, 10:50 PM
Has anyone seen the media thread lately?

Yes I have

Shane P. Hallam
02-17-2012, 10:50 PM
Has anyone seen the media thread lately?

No, is anything in there?

Matthew Jones
02-17-2012, 10:58 PM
No, is anything in there?

Yes, a monument to my ingenuity. Let's just say there's a lot more where that came from.

Nalej
02-17-2012, 11:08 PM
Yes, a monument to my ingenuity. Let's just say there's a lot more where that came from.

We're all on gamesurge now #forummock if you'd like to join us
I'm keep the Pats love alive in there... so much hate!

TACKLE
02-17-2012, 11:10 PM
We're all on gamesurge now #forummock if you'd like to join us
I'm keep the Pats love alive in there... so much hate!

Stop whining, Shane.

vidae
02-17-2012, 11:11 PM
Stop whining, Shane.

What he said! Go tweet some more SHANE.

Nalej
02-17-2012, 11:13 PM
I'm on my twitter now... and guess what?
I was just about to tweet about your favorite prospect!
Now I'm not... you'll have to find me on FaceBook to read it.

SuperPacker
02-17-2012, 11:18 PM
shanes probably sat reading this thinking wtf is going on :D :D

Matthew Jones
02-17-2012, 11:19 PM
Freeney to the Bengals would be insane.

SuperPacker
02-17-2012, 11:21 PM
Freeney to the Bengals would be insane.

in real life or on this. im starting to forget which is which.....

vidae
02-17-2012, 11:22 PM
Freeney to the Bengals would be insane.

It was a good signing for sure, but I don't know that it'd be INSANE.

A Perfect Score
02-18-2012, 12:28 AM
Grubbs staying home. Atta boy!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 12:29 AM
I can't believe Buffalo landed Avril. I need a drink. Hell of a signing.

TACKLE
02-18-2012, 12:39 AM
I can't believe Buffalo landed Avril. I need a drink. Hell of a signing.

umm you know this isn't real.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 12:54 AM
umm you know this isn't real.

If it were real I'd need a lot more than one!

killxswitch
02-18-2012, 01:11 AM
Ha ha Skins. No Garcon for you. Suckers!

vidae
02-18-2012, 01:26 AM
Ha ha Skins. No Garcon for you. Suckers!

Says the guy that gave him an elite contract!

Caddy
02-18-2012, 01:28 AM
Colts are gloating about making Garcon one of the highest paid receivers in NFL history?

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 03:48 AM
Nooooo I wanted Finnegannnnn!

Caddy
02-18-2012, 03:51 AM
Too bad he is mine!

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 03:56 AM
I really had no idea how to recruit these guys except telling them the obvious and a couple funny observations. I hope BB isn't too hard on that.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 03:59 AM
I really had no idea how to recruit these guys except telling them the obvious and a couple funny observations. I hope BB isn't too hard on that.

Well he was my #1 target at the position I was targeting the most (CB) so maybe that had something to do with it. I'm sure BB has some kind of logic/reasoning for why certain players are going to certain places.

bored of education
02-18-2012, 07:31 AM
If a certain someone(s) are not signed by a certain team I will hunt down a certain someone(in internet life) and e-harm(not eharmony but HARM) them

DiG
02-18-2012, 07:44 AM
Fletcher thank you for staying home. Tyvon is a nice grab as well.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 07:52 AM
Im over the moon with us resigning Wells and bringing in Gaither. I'll give Sherrod another year to prove hes decent and if he is we can move one of the three to guard further helping him Rodgers.

We finally have some good offensive line depth!

fenikz
02-18-2012, 08:45 AM
Gaither looks alot like Marcus McNeil :p

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 09:04 AM
Well he was my #1 target at the position I was targeting the most (CB) so maybe that had something to do with it. I'm sure BB has some kind of logic/reasoning for why certain players are going to certain places.

This has played a big part in the signings so far. The Ravens were all in on Grubbs, Finnegan was the Bucs #1 target at their #2 position (after Mario,) Avril and Tulloch were #1 and #2 on the Bills list, Griffin was the only Elite offer the Pats made, Gaither and Wells were the top targets for the Packers, Branch and Fletcher were only behind Manning on the Skins list....etc.

I just imagined if this were real life, who these teams would target right away.

Will post more later.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 09:11 AM
If a certain someone(s) are not signed by a certain team I will hunt down a certain someone(in internet life) and e-harm(not eharmony but HARM) them

Have you seen the media thread yet then? Bowe to NE. Don't e-Harm anyone!

DiG
02-18-2012, 09:24 AM
ill be on irc to discuss signings and trades...its the cool thing to do. especially you bb! #forummock

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 09:28 AM
Should of been on last night dirty thirty.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 09:29 AM
It was a party

DiG
02-18-2012, 09:30 AM
Should of been on last night dirty thirty.

sex and alchohol > irc sorry

Nalej
02-18-2012, 09:31 AM
sex and alchohol > irc sorry

Unless it's Palmela and some Milwaukee's Beast

DiG
02-18-2012, 09:36 AM
BB - Nalej and I have decided on Mario Williams best destination? SHould we just go ahead an post it?>??

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 09:43 AM
Wheres he going?

DiG
02-18-2012, 09:44 AM
Wheres he going?

you dont wanna know superpacker...

Nalej
02-18-2012, 09:49 AM
Close your eyes and keep telling yourself it's just a bad dream

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 09:52 AM
you dont wanna know superpacker...

If i was Mario Williams (wow that woulde be awesome) i would be going to whoever offers me the most money.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 09:53 AM
Oh he will

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 09:56 AM
Oh he will

not that it makes much difference from 18 million to 20 million. either way you're are rich **********

Nalej
02-18-2012, 09:58 AM
“I’m not worried about that,” Williams said. “It’s really not that big of a deal to me. I was the first pick, and I’ve already had everything I really wanted, so my biggest thing is to be in a good position, a good scheme, a good system and continuing my career. Hopefully, it works out. It’s always important to be in a position to be successful. That comes with teammates around you, coaching, having that winning attitude. You want to [play] where you can thrive no matter where you are. . . . I love it here.”

We shall see!

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 10:04 AM
We shall see!

Im assuming the Pats made an offer for him then? He would have a good chance to win in New England, imagine Tom Brady with a good defense...

Nalej
02-18-2012, 10:08 AM
My lips are sealed!

jrdrylie
02-18-2012, 10:09 AM
Damn, I missed out on Avril. I should have mentioned that I went to high school with him. That might have switched him to me. Have fun in Canada Cliff.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 10:10 AM
I would of made an offer for him but it was pretty obvious he wouldnt of signed for me.

killxswitch
02-18-2012, 10:11 AM
Colts are gloating about making Garcon one of the highest paid receivers in NFL history?

Elite contract != "one of the highest-paid receivers in NFL history". Not every elite contract is a Larry Fitzgerald contract.

Says the guy that gave him an elite contract!

Worth it! People don't understand how good he's going to be.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 10:11 AM
Damn, I missed out on Avril. I should have mentioned that I went to high school with him. That might have switched him to me. Have fun in Canada Cliff.

Avril was a huge signing for the Bills.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 10:13 AM
Elite contract != "one of the highest-paid receivers in NFL history". Not every elite contract is a Larry Fitzgerald contract.

Worth it! People don't understand how good he's going to be.

He was average with Manning so how bad is he gonna be with a rookie quarterback. Garcon is a good receiver but there is no way you can justify giving him an elite contract.

jrdrylie
02-18-2012, 10:18 AM
He was average with Manning so how bad is he gonna be with a rookie quarterback. Garcon is a good receiver but there is no way you can justify giving him an elite contract.

He actually had a great year last season with Curtis Painter. If he can work on improving his hands, he'll be a very good receiver.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 10:38 AM
So out of the 12 guys I offered in FA, only one has been picked up. Congrats on the Elite contract Mr. Mathis, too bad you won't win a Super Bowl.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 10:41 AM
Someone put in a claim for said player

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 10:43 AM
So out of the 12 guys I offered in FA, only one has been picked up. Congrats on the Elite contract Mr. Mathis, too bad you won't win a Super Bowl.

theres still loads of players to be announced. you might get a few.

redbills
02-18-2012, 11:05 AM
Avril was a huge signing for the Bills.

Didn't think I'd get Avril so I called his former Lions teammate Tulloch offered him an elite deal and Tulloch pulled in Avril. Go Bills!

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:06 AM
Didn't think I'd get Avril so I called his former Lions teammate Tulloch offered him an elite deal and Tulloch pulled in Avril. Go Bills!

im sure most bills fans will be wanting you as GM now!

redbills
02-18-2012, 11:09 AM
im sure most bills fans will be wanting you as GM now!

Id take that job :)

Front 7 now, not to bad imo.

RDE : Cliff Avril
NT : Marcell Dareus
UT : Kyle Williams
LDE : Alex Carrington
ROLB : Nick Barrnett
MLB : Stephen Tulloch
LOLB : Kelvin Sheppard

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:12 AM
Id take that job :)

Front 7 now, not to bad imo.

RDE : Cliff Avril
NT : Marcell Dareus
UT : Kyle Williams
LDE : Alex Carrington
ROLB : Nick Barrnett
MLB : Stephen Tulloch
LOLB : Kelvin Sheppard

Thats an elite front 7. Well it could be. Things looking up for the Bills!

Nalej
02-18-2012, 11:14 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wSRpbgeX8zA/Tu6ySHG3z1I/AAAAAAAAAFM/sedmwrUSAsI/s640/Gronk+Smash.jpg
RDE : Cliff Avril
NT : Marcell Dareus
UT : Kyle Williams
LDE : Alex Carrington
ROLB : Nick Barrnett
MLB : Stephen Tulloch
LOLB : Kelvin Sheppard

Grizzlegom
02-18-2012, 11:15 AM
Id take that job :)

Front 7 now, not to bad imo.

RDE : Cliff Avril
NT : Marcell Dareus
UT : Kyle Williams
LDE : Alex Carrington
ROLB : Nick Barrnett
MLB : Stephen Tulloch
LOLB : Kelvin Sheppard

My only real question...whose playing WILL? Avril should beast it in Wannstache's scheme.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 11:19 AM
Liking New England's secondary so far:

LCB: Devin McCourty

FS: Michael Griffin

SS: Patrick Chung

RCB: Ras-I Dowling

Nalej
02-18-2012, 11:25 AM
Liking New England's secondary so far:

LCB: Devin McCourty

FS: Michael Griffin

SS: Patrick Chung

RCB: Ras-I Dowling


Straight sexy!

fenikz
02-18-2012, 11:34 AM
WAKEY WAKEY BB

Unleash the signings

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:36 AM
WAKEY WAKEY BB

Unleash the signings

what he said!

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 11:42 AM
More signings coming. Had to go get a haircut, spent the time waiting for her to be ready for me by highlighting players in my notebook. Should go a little faster...decided the destination on some Elite guys.

Be ready.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 11:44 AM
More signings coming. Had to go get a haircut, spent the time waiting for her to be ready for me by highlighting players in my notebook. Should go a little faster...decided the destination on some Elite guys.

Be ready.

OGZHyOG5rlI

redbills
02-18-2012, 11:49 AM
My only real question...whose playing WILL? Avril should beast it in Wannstache's scheme.

Will Barnett like he was last yr. tulloch mike, kelvin sam

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:49 AM
Liking New England's secondary so far:

LCB: Devin McCourty

FS: Michael Griffin

SS: Patrick Chung

RCB: Ras-I Dowling

you just need charles woodson and thats and elite secondary! dowling is too injury prone to be a starter.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 11:50 AM
Ras I was playing well before he got injured too. Damn him.

vidae
02-18-2012, 11:51 AM
you just need charles woodson and thats and elite secondary! dowling is too injury prone to be a starter.

Nice try, but no one wants Charles Woodson! OR Donald Driver!

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 11:51 AM
I'm nervous. I only offered one real elite guy. Hopefully I make up for that with hundreds of quality guys.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:51 AM
Ras I was playing well before he got injured too. Damn him.

woodson could be yours!

Nalej
02-18-2012, 11:52 AM
Nice try, but no one wants Charles Woodson! OR Donald Driver!

What he said

vidae
02-18-2012, 11:52 AM
Great signing by the Eagles.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:52 AM
Nice try, but no one wants Charles Woodson! OR Donald Driver!

the chiefs could do with a veteran cornerback.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 11:53 AM
Nice try, but no one wants Charles Woodson! OR Donald Driver!
I'll take both for my sixth and seventh.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 11:53 AM
Holy ****, Philly!
I demand you take the franchise tag off of DJax NOW!

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:53 AM
my superbowl perdiction is looking more and more likely with that signing!

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 11:54 AM
anyone wanna go to IRC?

DeepThreat
02-18-2012, 11:59 AM
anyone wanna go to IRC?

Lots of people are there.

ChiFan24
02-18-2012, 11:59 AM
Damn VJax to the Eagles. I need me some Bowe.

A Perfect Score
02-18-2012, 12:00 PM
A 6th rounder for Woodson!

Bulldogs
02-18-2012, 12:01 PM
Huge signing for the Eagles. Now they can get a player/draft pick out of DeSean Jackson, and add some linebacker talent in the draft.

vidae
02-18-2012, 12:01 PM
Nicks! Booooooom!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 12:03 PM
There goes one of the biggest (literally and figuratively) fish in the class. Also, I'd be a little concerned about egos in Philadelphia if both VJax and DJax are there.

Bulldogs
02-18-2012, 12:03 PM
What's the server people are using on IRC?

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:03 PM
Nicks! Booooooom!
Nicely done.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 12:05 PM
What's the server people are using on IRC?

#forummock

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:08 PM
I'm actually surprised I didn't get McClain. I offered him at the mid level, he'd get carries, and he'd get to block for Willis again. Not getting him makes me nervous about getting anyone.

vidae
02-18-2012, 12:10 PM
I'm actually surprised I didn't get McClain. I offered him at the mid level, he'd get carries, and he'd get to block for Willis again. Not getting him makes me nervous about getting anyone.

McClain is going to be a big part of the Chiefs offense. It didn't look like he did much this year, but Jamaal was hurt and our entire run game suffered because of it, and even then he was one of the most vocal lockerroom guys we had. He definitely has a place here in KC.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:25 PM
Evan Mathis :'( times a zillion! Why didn't I offer him an elite ugh!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 12:32 PM
I would have been all over Mathis had Brian Waters retired. Nice move.

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 12:33 PM
wait...someone offered terrell thomas an elite deal? awkward

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 12:34 PM
wait...someone offered terrell thomas an elite deal? awkward

If your deep in ze pockets and dont need to worry bout how it really affects it, why not?

vidae
02-18-2012, 12:36 PM
If your deep in ze pockets and dont need to worry bout how it really affects it, why not?

Probably because he's kinda sucky.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:37 PM
Thank god! As of today, Wright would be starting, but I plan on bringing in more depth at corner, the Finnegan thing messed me up.

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 12:39 PM
yeah, I guess so. I just never expected a corner coming off a torn ACL to get an elite offer.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 12:40 PM
yeah, I guess so. I just never expected a corner coming off a torn ACL to get an elite offer.

Duanta Robinson did? But Duanta was a lot more productive too...

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:44 PM
I love the Lofton signing. I tried to get him but I guess he wouldn't like to play between Von Miller and DJ Williams...haha

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 12:44 PM
I love the Lofton signing. I tried to get him but I guess he wouldn't like to play between Von Miller and DJ Williams...haha

He doesn't want to be a 2 down linebacker.

OSUGiants17
02-18-2012, 12:46 PM
Damn! I was really hoping Lofton would come to NY. Why would he choose Tennessee over the defending world champs?

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 12:49 PM
I have a feeling a big named player is about to move...

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 12:49 PM
Damn! I was really hoping Lofton would come to NY. Why would he choose Tennessee over the defending world champs?

Scotty offered a Mid level deal "that could be quality with incentives" or some such thing.

Tennessee was straight cash homie.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:50 PM
He doesn't want to be a 2 down linebacker.
It's not a big deal but I was planning to have Miller and Doom on the ends, Ayers or whoever would then move inside, and then some one else would play the other tackle. Then I'd have Lofton and Williams playing LB. But if you're talking Dime, I couldn't play him considering Williams' valuable coverage skills.
I probably should have elaborated in my offer.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 12:52 PM
I'd have to guess it'd be be Arizona. They offer much more than Washington at least in my mind.
Sorry for the double post!

vidae
02-18-2012, 12:55 PM
Arizona has one of the best WRs in the game and a coaching staff that has been there a while. I'd definitely go to Arizona if I were him.

Grizzlegom
02-18-2012, 12:56 PM
Some more interesting fits. Titans grab a MLB despite Colin McCarthy (I guess he moves to the weakside) and the Bengals getting Mathis, which seems unlikely to me, I don't see him wanting to return there given how his previous stint went.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 12:58 PM
Some more interesting fits. Titans grab a MLB despite Colin McCarthy (I guess he moves to the weakside) and the Bengals getting Mathis, which seems unlikely to me, I don't see him wanting to return there given how his previous stint went.

bengals got freeney

Unbiased
02-18-2012, 01:00 PM
bengals got freeney

Evan Mathis, not Robert

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 01:03 PM
I was thinking that too. I don't think many teams offered him Elite deals. Docta must have reconciled in his offer.

ChiFan24
02-18-2012, 01:05 PM
I'm the Bears this time.....don't put me on the hook for some of those Bengals deals lol.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 01:07 PM
Ha my bad, I just got over seeing your logo making Bengals picks.

Grizzlegom
02-18-2012, 01:11 PM
bengals got freeney

Haha yea, meant Evan Mathis. The Bengals never seemed to like him as their starter and kept benching him even though he was clearly a better player than Nate Livings then let him walk last offseason without even offering him anything. Obviously his great season this year may change their minds about him but not sure the feeling would be mutual.

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 01:12 PM
Haha yea, meant Evan Mathis. The Bengals never seemed to like him as their starter and kept benching him even though he was clearly a better player than Nate Livings then let him walk last offseason without even offering him anything. Obviously his great season this year may change their minds about him but not sure the feeling would be mutual.

Different OC now too. Bratkowski sucked.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 01:19 PM
Bowe to Bears... Thats cool.

DeepThreat
02-18-2012, 01:19 PM
I see no logic behind Bowe to the Bears. Chiefs had a ton of cap room and made him a top priority. Bowe loves KC and spent his entire career there. I don't see it.

CJSchneider
02-18-2012, 01:22 PM
Bowe to Bears... Thats cool.

Should have been SF :(

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 01:24 PM
Should have been SF :(

No one wants to go to SF :).... and apparently N.O. too :/

OSUGiants17
02-18-2012, 01:25 PM
I see no logic behind Bowe to the Bears. Chiefs had a ton of cap room and made him a top priority. Bowe loves KC and spent his entire career there. I don't see it.

Cutler > Cassell, Orton, Palko and Stanzi

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 01:25 PM
Enjoy the NFC, Peyton!

OSUGiants17
02-18-2012, 01:27 PM
Enjoy the NFC, Peyton!

Manning bowls happening more than just every 4 years?!?!?!?!?! ESPN just pre'd

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 01:28 PM
I see no logic behind Bowe to the Bears. Chiefs had a ton of cap room and made him a top priority. Bowe loves KC and spent his entire career there. I don't see it.

Get this through your heads. The Bears had $19 million in cap space. Unless the Chiefs were going to make his base salary in 2012 more than that, it doesn't matter how much total space they had.

Bowe was #1 on the Bears priority list, had the need for it, could make any reasonable offer the Chiefs could and have a better QB situation.

Ya'll can deal with it.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 01:29 PM
Just go on to new signings, whats done is done.

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 01:30 PM
these guys are all greedy money grubbers. Where are the damn discounts for winning teams?

DeepThreat
02-18-2012, 01:30 PM
Get this through your heads. The Bears had $19 million in cap space. Unless the Chiefs were going to make his base salary in 2012 more than that, it doesn't matter how much total space they had.

Bowe was #1 on the Bears priority list, had the need for it, could make any reasonable offer the Chiefs could and have a better QB situation.

Ya'll can deal with it.

Because teams routinely spend their entire cap space on one player. The Chiefs could afford to spend so much more. If the Bears spend $15 million, they can't afford anyone else. If the Chiefs spend $15 million, they can sign two more elite players with ease. Bowe was No. 1 on the Chiefs' list and loves it in Kansas City. Players never sign with new teams because of their quarterbacks. See T.J. Houshmanzadeh, Sidney Rice.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 01:31 PM
these guys are all greedy money grubbers. Where are the damn discounts for winning teams?

Its coming when he puts up my signings :)

Grizzlegom
02-18-2012, 01:31 PM
Different OC now too. Bratkowski sucked.

Doesn't change that he had a poor experience with the team. I mean, its no big deal, nobody else seems to think its a bad fit and its not like I bid on him, I just think that's one of the less likely deals that's been struck. At the end of the day, its all a fantasy offseason anyway, no reason to get worked up over it haha

OSUGiants17
02-18-2012, 01:31 PM
Yea how much cap space a team has doesn't matter at all. It's how much of that cap they offer you and who they have to surround you with right now. Chicago just gives him a better chance at succeeding and going to the playoffs.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 01:31 PM
Because teams routinely spend their entire cap space on one player. The Chiefs could afford to spend so much more. Bowe was No. 1 on the Chiefs' list and loves it in Kansas City. Players never sign with new teams because of their quarterbacksk. See T.J. Houshmanzadeh, Sidney Rice.

In all honesty Rice knew to take the money and run.

vidae
02-18-2012, 01:41 PM
It doesn't matter anymore. It's over and done with. We should just move on.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 01:53 PM
It doesn't matter anymore. It's over and done with. We should just move on.

Good call.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 01:55 PM
13 guys still left in the FA board. With a trade or two, I could do something magical here.

ATLDirtyBirds
02-18-2012, 02:01 PM
Bowe seems a little iffy, but I don't think it's that outrageous. The only really shaky one I see is Evan Mathis going back to Cincy.

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Bowe seems a little iffy, but I don't think it's that outrageous. The only really shaky one I see is Evan Mathis going back to Cincy.

They just poured buckets of money out for him. Only Elite offer he got was from Cincy. I thought about having him return to Philly on a Quality deal because of Mudd but...meh. Spending Elite money on VJax also left Philly without the ability to make a Quality offer anyway. Now if they trade or pull the tender off of Desean, they can get back into it on some higher level free agents again.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 02:12 PM
How many guys were you planning on announcing today and how frequently?

CJSchneider
02-18-2012, 02:14 PM
No Colson? That hurts, BB. You cut me deep.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 02:16 PM
In BeerBaron we trust! Win or lose, everyone should be comfortable knowing that everything was done as objectively as possible. That said, let the free agent signings commence! BeerBaron, let me know if you need any help typing up announcements, etc.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 02:16 PM
Flynn to MIA and Mario probable to ATL. Whoa!

Bulldogs
02-18-2012, 02:17 PM
Flynn to MIA and Mario probable to ATL. Whoa!

To be fair I wrote the ATL piece and not BeerBaron.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 02:19 PM
Flynn to Miami is a nice move. Very realistic.

killxswitch
02-18-2012, 02:21 PM
Haha. Somebody gave Ryan Diem money. That guy hasn't been good at football since 2007.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 02:21 PM
To be fair I wrote the ATL piece and not BeerBaron.
You silly little bastard haha. In fairness, I essentially did the same thing.

Unbiased
02-18-2012, 02:26 PM
I don't like the reports that aren't based on fact. Super Packer lied about his offer to Scott Wells, saying it was an elite offer. How about we just be honest.

ChiFan24
02-18-2012, 02:29 PM
I don't like the reports that aren't based on fact. Super Packer lied about his offer to Scott Wells, saying it was an elite offer. How about we just be honest.

lolwut????

vidae
02-18-2012, 02:31 PM
Yea how much cap space a team has doesn't matter at all. It's how much of that cap they offer you and who they have to surround you with right now. Chicago just gives him a better chance at succeeding and going to the playoffs.

Let me reiterate that I'm not angry Bowe left in FA, as I somewhat expected him to, but I'd really like to talk about the part in bold here.

How does Chicago give him a better chance at the playoffs? The Chiefs lost four of their better players to season ending injuries and were one blocked FG from going to the playoffs. The Bears have the Lions and the Packers in their division and the Chiefs are in a division that ended with a 3 way tie at 8-8 and the Chiefs at 7-9.

Not to mention that outside of QB and DL, I'd give the edge to the Chiefs pretty much everywhere as far as talent goes. You could argue RB, but I'd argue that Forte and Charles are a wash.

Because of that, I don't see that the Bears have some huge advantage to make the postseason over the Chiefs. If anything, with a fully healthy team, and the division they play in, I'd give the edge to the Chiefs to see the postseason again before the Bears.

Unbiased
02-18-2012, 02:32 PM
lolwut????

I'm talking about the media reports.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 02:34 PM
Chris Myers was available?! I totally overlooked him. I wish I knew more about the Broncos line than my current knowledge of Clady's good. Oh well.

Go_Eagles77
02-18-2012, 02:36 PM
For those of you who still need a WR, DeSean is still very available.

vidae
02-18-2012, 02:38 PM
For those of you who still need a WR, DeSean is still very available.

For a trade, or is he a FA? I haven't been paying attention to the Eagles situation.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 02:38 PM
Why don't you just release him? :)

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 02:39 PM
lol yeah i lied about offering Scott Wells an elite deal. I lied about not trying to get Gaither as well. Im just trying to do the best for my team and anyway, BeerBaron already said he was going to make up rumours so why cant we?

Go_Eagles77
02-18-2012, 02:39 PM
For a trade, or is he a FA? I haven't been paying attention to the Eagles situation.

For trade.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 02:40 PM
For trade.

i'll swap you jackson for jermichael finley

Unbiased
02-18-2012, 02:42 PM
lol yeah i lied about offering Scott Wells an elite deal. I lied about not trying to get Gaither as well. Im just trying to do the best for my team and anyway, BeerBaron already said he was going to make up rumours so why cant we?

I know it's not against any rule. I'm just offering it as a suggestion because I don't like it. If you want to do it, go right ahead.

A Perfect Score
02-18-2012, 02:42 PM
Ravens will give you a 3rd for Desean Jackson! Fair deal!

ChiFan24
02-18-2012, 02:44 PM
I know it's not against any rule. I'm just offering it as a suggestion because I don't like it. If you want to do it, go right ahead.

BS media rumors are planted all the time. I think it's pretty smart.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 02:46 PM
BS media rumors are planted all the time. I think it's pretty smart.

what he said

Unbiased
02-18-2012, 02:47 PM
what he said

Then, as I've already said, go right ahead.

ATLDirtyBirds
02-18-2012, 02:47 PM
Roddy White is now on the trade block.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 02:48 PM
Denver is in the market for a receiver, but beware I have no first to spend. Hit me up.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 02:48 PM
Fully expecting Peyton Manning to sign with the Cardinals at 4:00. Larry Fitzgerald is too good to pass up, and Matt Light would do a nice job of protecting Peyton's blind side.

Hines
02-18-2012, 03:12 PM
Very pumped by adding Carey and keeping Cotch and Leftwich.

Bulldogs
02-18-2012, 03:21 PM
Peyton to Arizona seemed like a no-brainer.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 03:28 PM
Hopefully we'll get a flurry of updates now that Peyton Manning has signed!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 03:44 PM
Shoot, I was pretty sure the Patriots would be able to sign one or both of those guys, but I can understand following the money wherever it leads. I'd like to see Slater get an opportunity to contribute on an offense.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 03:52 PM
Still, 13 of the 14 players I offered are still there....

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 03:53 PM
Anyone have any guesses on where Mario Williams ends up?

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 03:53 PM
Still, 13 of the 14 players I offered are still there....

probably cus u didnt offer any of them want they wanted. you'll have to wait for the next round of free agency.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 03:54 PM
Anyone have any guesses on where Mario Williams ends up?

not cleveland.

ATLDirtyBirds
02-18-2012, 03:55 PM
Anyone have any guesses on where Mario Williams ends up?

Apparently he's leaning Atlanta.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 03:57 PM
Anyone have any guesses on where Mario Williams ends up?

Detroit! Lined up right next to Suh. Whoa! Make it happen, BB!
I don't even care if Detroit made an offer or not!

Docta
02-18-2012, 03:58 PM
Looking to trade up into the top 10. Bengals have a lot of draft picks this year.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 03:58 PM
probably cus u didnt offer any of them want they wanted. you'll have to wait for the next round of free agency.

Actually, I did.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 03:59 PM
Apparently he's leaning Atlanta.

you can just make up ******** and put it in the media thread!

vidae
02-18-2012, 03:59 PM
I have a feeling Mario Williams ends up in Atlanta.

vidae
02-18-2012, 04:00 PM
Looking to trade up into the top 10. Bengals have a lot of draft picks this year.

Log back on IRC.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 04:00 PM
I want moar free agents :(

Nalej
02-18-2012, 04:02 PM
Pats are now 1/3 in FA. Not too bad if this was baseball!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 04:05 PM
Woo! Pats signings are up. Read 'em and weep!

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 04:05 PM
Manny Lawson back in a 3-4, which is the reason he left San Fran was because he couldn't play in a 3-4......

Bulldogs
02-18-2012, 04:06 PM
I have a feeling Mario Williams ends up in Atlanta.

Agreed, I read a great article on it earlier today.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 04:07 PM
Manny Lawson back in a 3-4, which is the reason he left San Fran was because he couldn't play in a 3-4......

Pats are in an even front when they go nickle. With today's offenses, that means most of the time.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 04:09 PM
Pats are in an even front when they go nickle. With today's offenses, that means most of the time.

So nickel, when you have 2 LBs your going to use Mayo and Lawson?

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 04:09 PM
damn, I ****** up. Oh well, hopefully the move I just made will help us rebound

Nalej
02-18-2012, 04:16 PM
So nickel, when you have 2 LBs your going to use Mayo and Lawson?

Spikes can't cover, Ninko is what he is, Fletcher is pretty decent, Roth and Anderson are pass rushers (DE's in even fronts)
So yea, it'll most likely be a rotation of Mayo, Lawson and Fletcher.

Matt Jones is the master mind of the Pats offseason though.
Like I said, I'm just a hypeman/extra set of eyes. Lower level scout.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 04:21 PM
Spikes can't cover, Ninko is what he is, Fletcher is pretty decent, Roth and Anderson are pass rushers (DE's in even fronts)
So yea, it'll most likely be a rotation of Mayo, Lawson and Fletcher.

Matt Jones is the master mind of the Pats offseason though.
Like I said, I'm just a hypeman/extra set of eyes. Lower level scout.

Its all good, I just dont understand the concept of playing half the time, where here I was offering starting job, in a defense he can play....

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 04:22 PM
So nickel, when you have 2 LBs your going to use Mayo and Lawson?

The Patriots use both three and four-man fronts interchangeably. The starting lineups would look something like this:

3-4:

DL: Spears - Wilfork - Castillo
LB: Ninkovich - Spikes - Mayo - Roth

4-3:

DL: Roth - Love - Wilfork - Anderson
LB: Mayo - Spikes - Lawson

Secondary:

McCourty - Griffin - Chung - Dowling

An alternate 3-4 front would be Ninkovich/Roth rotating at the elephant position, with Lawson at ROLB to cover tight ends. New England uses their linebackers in run support and coverage much more than they rush the passer.

BeerBaron
02-18-2012, 04:22 PM
Got to go to a party for my cousin who is home from Afghanistan. I'll return later and try to power through these signings.

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 04:23 PM
The Patriots use both three and four-man fronts interchangeably. The starting lineups would look something like this:

3-4:

DL: Spears - Wilfork - Castillo
LB: Ninkovich - Spikes - Mayo - Roth

4-3:

DL: Roth - Love - Wilfork - Anderson
LB: Mayo - Spikes - Lawson

Secondary:

McCourty - Griffin - Chung - Dowling

Again, like I mentioned I was offering a starting job the whole time. Not depending on what we was doing.

But idc, its just for fun.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 04:24 PM
He wants to win a Super Bowl!

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 04:24 PM
giants making some trades here. hopefully they make up for me dropping the ball in free agency thus far

zachsaints52
02-18-2012, 04:35 PM
He wants to win a Super Bowl!

Check the odds, Saints and Pats arent much different. Plus, full time player here.

giants making some trades here. hopefully they make up for me dropping the ball in free agency thus far

Nice trading!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 04:35 PM
Depth chart has been updated!

diabsoule
02-18-2012, 04:53 PM
I'm glad I was able to sign Lofton and McClure. Lofton should be a big boost in the middle of the Titans D and McClure is a savvy veteran that's an improvement over Amato

Go_Eagles77
02-18-2012, 04:54 PM
I'm pumped to get VJax, but the loss of Evan Mathis really hurts. My OL is in trouble right now.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 04:55 PM
I don't think the Titans signing an ILB is realistic to be fair. I thought they were really high on Colin MCCarthy towards the end of the season.

Go_Eagles77
02-18-2012, 05:10 PM
Anyone miss out on that pro-bowl CB you were after in FA? Asante Samuel is still available for trade.

diabsoule
02-18-2012, 05:14 PM
I don't think the Titans signing an ILB is realistic to be fair. I thought they were really high on Colin MCCarthy towards the end of the season.

Go into the Titans thread and they all want an upgrade at ILB. I think McCarthy is serviceable but I don't see him turning into anything special.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 05:22 PM
Go into the Titans thread and they all want an upgrade at ILB. I think McCarthy is serviceable but I don't see him turning into anything special.

Ah ok. I can only go off what I've seen. I thought he looked great when he played the Bucs, but maybe that was his best game.

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 05:27 PM
thoughts on the vilma acquistion?

Unbiased
02-18-2012, 05:30 PM
thoughts on the vilma acquistion?

Great Move. Not just a really good player, but a captain in the middle of your defense.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 05:33 PM
I think the Saints won the trade.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 05:35 PM
yeah the saints won the trade

Nalej
02-18-2012, 05:37 PM
thoughts on the vilma acquistion?

I hate the Giants

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 05:39 PM
I hate the Giants

your opinion is invalid until the start of next season IRL.

and interesting, some say I won, others said the Saints did. Intriguing.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 05:41 PM
I just think Vilma is on his last legs/knees.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 05:41 PM
Noooo, it's valid UNTIL the beginning of the next season.
Until that kickoff, Super Bowl hangover it will be!

<---------

Oh, and I thought the trade was fair.
You're Superbowl champs. You've upgraded a weakness.
That's the bottom line.

jrdrylie
02-18-2012, 05:43 PM
When does the second round of free agency start?

Caddy
02-18-2012, 05:43 PM
First round isn't over...

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 05:47 PM
First round isn't over...

it would be if BeerBaron wasnt out partying.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 05:49 PM
it would be if BeerBaron wasnt out partying.

lol bc that's what he's doing

fenikz
02-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Kolb can be head for ridiculously cheap if you don't want to have to bid on him after I cut him

ChiFan24
02-18-2012, 06:19 PM
A. I thought Vilma was still solid B. who's the Saints' MLB now? Wilson?

Hurricanes25
02-18-2012, 06:29 PM
thoughts on the vilma acquistion?

Good move. I think it was a fair deal for both sides. Vilma is not the player he once was but he's still a serviceable starter. You gave up Barden, who I guess has potential but hasn't shown anything yet, a third rounder, and a seventh which is pretty much meaningless.

killxswitch
02-18-2012, 06:39 PM
Are we unable to send in updated offers at this point until the 2nd round of FA?

fenikz
02-18-2012, 06:48 PM
Yea were stuck :(

Caddy
02-18-2012, 06:52 PM
Are we unable to send in updated offers at this point until the 2nd round of FA?

You are stuck with Garcon until the 1st round of offers is done.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 07:16 PM
Just cut three players; don't all bid at once.

Caddy
02-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Now you have 1.5 million in cap space!

Nalej
02-18-2012, 07:35 PM
Ice cream for everyone!

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 07:40 PM
Big trade in the works between New England and a rival? Stay tuned...

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Leave Cameron Wake alone!

Nalej
02-18-2012, 07:48 PM
Matt Jones for president!

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 07:49 PM
anyone know when BB is getting back?

Shane P. Hallam
02-18-2012, 07:52 PM
anyone know when BB is getting back?

Just be patient man.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 07:53 PM
Just be patient man.

its 2am and i need to be up by 10...

this is when i start getting cranky

vidae
02-18-2012, 07:55 PM
Big trade in the works between New England and a rival? Stay tuned...

Oh we will.

its 2am and i need to be up by 10...

this is when i start getting cranky

Then go to bed.

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 07:56 PM
Ted Mosby's mom said nothing good ever happens after 2 am.

Nalej
02-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Only thing open after midnight is legs and fast food - Lloyd Banks

TheBoyWonder22
02-18-2012, 08:01 PM
Only thing open after midnight is legs and fast food - Lloyd Banks
That is the exact opposite of what I just said.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 08:02 PM
Then go to bed.

I wanna wait until i hear some announcements!

Caddy
02-18-2012, 08:02 PM
K2 can be had on the cheap ladies. His cap number heading into 2012 is 3 million.

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Matthew Jones and scottyboy in cahoots? What could be the spawn of this debaucherous discussion?

Caddy
02-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Nobody cares.

SuperPacker
02-18-2012, 08:06 PM
get your arse on IRC everybody!

scottyboy
02-18-2012, 08:07 PM
MEGA DEAL ON THE WAY!

caddy, you're being a big meanie head today and I don't like it one bit

Matthew Jones
02-18-2012, 08:10 PM
Who is this man, and why does he have the same hairdresser as Pat McQuistan? Find out soon!

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k192/RPMcMurphy_01/mysteryman.jpg

Caddy
02-18-2012, 08:10 PM
MEGA DEAL ON THE WAY!

caddy, you're being a big meanie head today and I don't like it one bit

Don't make me hurt Zuttah!

OSUGiants17
02-18-2012, 08:15 PM
MEGA DEAL ON THE WAY!

caddy, you're being a big meanie head today and I don't like it one bit

Thanks for filling in your co-gm! :D