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zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 07:04 PM
Im not going to say who gave me the info, but this person is to be trusted.

Vote:JoeJoeBrown

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 07:06 PM
Delve further into the word "info"

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:06 PM
What was it saying ?!

zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 07:07 PM
That JJB is evil.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 07:07 PM
Woot see the last post last page.
Edit: that's all it said?

zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 07:08 PM
Woot see the last post last page.
Edit: that's all it said?

What does it need, a whistle? You get info from a trusted person saying another person is evil, you go with it. And the person I got it from is 100% reliable.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:10 PM
Woot see the last post last page.
Edit: that's all it said?

Yeah I told everyone I was good from the get go :p

I'm gonna roll with you zach

Vote : JJB

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:13 PM
Ouch. Losing Jvig sucks. I still think we should assume we have 2 or 3 mafia left.

Im not going to say who gave me the info, but this person is to be trusted.

Vote:JoeJoeBrown

That's enough for me.

Vote: JJB

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 07:13 PM
What does it need, a whistle? You get info from a trusted person saying another person is evil, you go with it. And the person I got it from is 100% reliable.
I was just making sure, no need to get smart.

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 07:14 PM
Guess I'll show a little faith

vote: jjb

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:16 PM
Okay... So here is my next surprising call out.

I think Bulldogs could be the Serial Killer. It would be the perfect disguise. BD has been at the forefront of lynching everyone. He often votes early and tends to go with the majority. (Every Lynching so far he has voted for the one who gets lynched)

I think possibly attached himself to me, defending me, following my lead in order to garner the reputation of being good.

That right there is a reason why I think he might have more insidious intentions.

We have yet to see his role or any information he has given... Just kinda suspicious.

There goes that theory. You broke my heart IBC.


I have a sneaky suspicion these are all good guys, you just want them out of the way.

Orly? Cross another bad guy off my list. Checkmate.

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:17 PM
Also, Vikes needs to show up with info or we may as well lynch him next. Unless we land some more solid info on another mafioso, anyway. I don't think we can win with him still in play since Brody was after him as a bad guy early.

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:18 PM
As for JoeJoeBrown, I'm almost certain he's not mafia, but wouldn't be too surprised if he was bad. He was one of the first votes to get rid of Jensen and vidae. Let's give him a chance to speak though before we give him the lynch.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:18 PM
Bulldogs what are your powers ?

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:20 PM
Bulldogs what are your powers ?

I have the power of astounding intuition and solid reasoning.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 07:20 PM
Bulldogs what are your powers ?
Does being evil count?

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:21 PM
Does being evil count?

What the? I've been on the side of good at every point so far in the game.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:21 PM
Bulldogs what did you do last night ?

ImBrotherCain
02-28-2012, 07:21 PM
[QUOTE=Bulldogs;2879370]There goes that theory. You broke my heart IBC./QUOTE]

I am sorry... I still love you!

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:22 PM
Bulldogs what did you do last night ?

I didn't kill Jvig if that's what you're insinuating.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:23 PM
Not implying that. What did you do ?

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:24 PM
Not implying that. What did you do ?

I'll answer this when you have everybody else here telling you what they did. There is no need to put a target on my back for the remaining mafia. If you know something come out and say it. We both know I didn't kill Jvig though, and I have a solid track record of only doing good so far.

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:25 PM
There goes that theory. You broke my heart IBC.



Orly? Cross another bad guy off my list. Checkmate.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:27 PM
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

I was making tongue in cheek jokes because both were wrong in their assumptions.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:27 PM
Vikes - Good
McGee - Good
Raiderz - Good
Ncst8fan83 - Good
UKFan - ?
Wooty - Good
Cain - Good
CJSchneider - Good
Flying Elvis - ?
The Boy Wonder - Good
Bulldog - ?
JoeJoeBrown - Bad (zach said it so)
Zachsaints - Good
Fenikz - ?
Mr. Goosemahn - ?
Eaglesalltheway - good

IMO the guy who are the most suspicious are the one with a question mark near to it

ps. Bulldogs just wanna make sure you aren't bad

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:27 PM
I was making tongue in cheek jokes because both were wrong in their assumptions.

ok, gotcha.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:28 PM
Vikes - Good
McGee - Good
Raiderz - Good
Ncst8fan83 - Good
UKFan - ?
Wooty - Good
Cain - Good
CJSchneider - Good
Flying Elvis - ?
The Boy Wonder - Good
Bulldog - ?
JoeJoeBrown - Bad (zach said it so)
Zachsaints - Good
Fenikz - ?
Mr. Goosemahn - ?
Eaglesalltheway - good

IMO the guy who are the most suspicious are the one with a question mark near to it

ps. Bulldogs just wanna make sure you aren't bad

page trap!

Bulldogs
02-28-2012, 07:29 PM
Vikes - Good
McGee - Good
Raiderz - Good
Ncst8fan83 - Good
UKFan - ?
Wooty - Good
Cain - Good
CJSchneider - Good
Flying Elvis - ?
The Boy Wonder - Good
Bulldog - ?
JoeJoeBrown - Bad (zach said it so)
Zachsaints - Good
Fenikz - ?
Mr. Goosemahn - ?
Eaglesalltheway - good

IMO the guy who are the most suspicious are the one with a question mark near to it

ps. Bulldogs just wanna make sure you aren't bad

I actually don't think Vikes is confirmed as good. A thief is most likely a neutral role, possibly even bad (although it's true he's not a threat). When did ncst8 and McGee become confirmed good? I might have missed those ones. Other than that, that's a fairly accurate list.

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:30 PM
Vikes - Good
McGee - Good
Raiderz - Good
Ncst8fan83 - Good
UKFan - ?
Wooty - Good
Cain - Good
CJSchneider - Good
Flying Elvis - ?
The Boy Wonder - Good
Bulldog - ?
JoeJoeBrown - Bad (zach said it so)
Zachsaints - Good
Fenikz - ?
Mr. Goosemahn - ?
Eaglesalltheway - good

IMO the guy who are the most suspicious are the one with a question mark near to it

ps. Bulldogs just wanna make sure you aren't bad

Who cleared Vikes, McGee, Cain & you?

Until we lynch a framer we would be unwise to clear IBC when he came back bad on investigation.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:31 PM
I actually don't think Vikes is confirmed as good. A thief is most likely a neutral role, possibly even bad (although it's true he's not a threat). When did ncst8 and McGee become confirmed good? I might have missed those ones. Other than that, that's a fairly accurate list.

ncst got cleared by EATW and Mcgee was cleared earlier in this game

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:33 PM
Who cleared Vikes, McGee, Cain & you?

Until we lynch a framer we would be unwise to clear IBC when he came back bad on investigation.

If you still believe I'm bad at this point I don't know what more I gotta do seriously

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:33 PM
ncst got cleared by EATW and Mcgee was cleared earlier in this game

EATW received a very ambiguous note from an unknown source saying Ncst8 was good. Assuming he's clear because of that would be unwise.

You'll have to show me Mcgee's clear b/c I didn't see it.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 07:35 PM
What the? I've been on the side of good at every point so far in the game.
In theory, hasn't everyone?

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 07:35 PM
If you still believe I'm bad at this point I don't know what more I gotta do seriously

I didn't believe you were until you went and cleared 3 guys that I haven't seen cleared 100%.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:37 PM
I didn't believe you were until you went and cleared 3 guys that I haven't seen cleared 100%.

Well I assumed they were good since they were cleared by others trustable in this thread!

CJSchneider
02-28-2012, 07:43 PM
Following zach's lead.

Vote: JJB

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 08:26 PM
Vote: JJB
Zach's info is all we have to go off of.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 08:42 PM
Wow. This is comical. I log on and I'm accused by zach of being evil?

Zach had an epic heated battle with IBC that went nowhere.

I'm thinking he's just misguided, not evil. Someone has either been feeding him horrible info, or he's evil. I just don't get that feeling, however.

I am 100% good, btw. It would be a complete waste to lynch me.

One and possibly more innocent townies would be killed by lynching me.

I still have a bad feeling about Fenikz and Goosemahn.

Elvis's list is a good daily refresh to remind us of whom is still alive, but for most of those people we have no idea are good or bad, regardless of labels. One guy confirming another guy of being good does nothing for me. The web of lies, mistruths, and an obfuscation is 92 pages long and counting.

Hell, that list could be a great way for Elvis to look innocent if he is evil (not saying he is).

I was suspicious of JVig and IBC for knowing so much. I wonder if they were some of the ones IM'ing illegally. Regardless, would we know if JVig was a good cop or a bad cop in his obituary?

I implore you, it's a waste of a day (and likely multiple lives) if you lynch me.

I'm going on the guy that has a bunch of one liners and doesn't contribute. He's been suspicious for awhile.

VOTE LYNCH: Fenikz

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 08:45 PM
Jvig's name was green so he was good.

SuperMcGee
02-28-2012, 08:46 PM
Guess I'll show a little faith

vote: jjb

I see what you did there.


You'll have to show me Mcgee's clear b/c I didn't see it.

It just radiates from me. Pure goodness.

fenikz
02-28-2012, 08:47 PM
I lack any way to contribute but I assure you I'm not evil

Would of made this vote either way but now it's personal!

Vote: JJB

ImBrotherCain
02-28-2012, 08:48 PM
Did you just accuse me of cheating? Can we have a boards mod confirm that I haven't sent or received any information outside of game please.

Not to mention Jvig was a cop and is dead... Hence being able to gather information.

This all sounds like a desperate ploy to throw other ppl under the bus so you don't get lynched

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 08:50 PM
Also, zach, if you are going to accuse me of being evil, who is your source?

I'm 100% a good guy. They are feeding you terrible info. They are the one that we should lynch.

Scenarios:

a) Lynch me. I die and someone is murdered since a mob member or SK is still alive.
---1)You'll all know I was innocent.
---2)You'll all either think that zach is evil and/or his source is evil

b) Don't lynch me. Go on suspicions of other people.
---1)On hindsight, too random right now. We need zach's source.
c) Lynch zach's source.
---1)His source is either evil and/or misinformed. To go through a third party like that would tell me that he's evil.
---2)Zach is lying and he's evil.

I'm going to withdraw my vote for fenikz until we settle this.

Zach, you need to man up. I'm good. Give us the source.

I will take whatever bet you want that I'm good.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 08:51 PM
Did you just accuse me of cheating? Can we have a boards mod confirm that I haven't sent or received any information outside of game please.

Not to mention Jvig was a cop and is dead... Hence being able to gather information.

This all sounds like a desperate ploy to throw other ppl under the bus so you don't get lynched

You know a lot, so did he. I guess you guys are just well informed.

I didn't realize that colors indicated good or bad.

I'll bet you whatever you want that I'm good. Zach and/or his source are evil.

UNVOTE LYNCH FENIKZ

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Yep..Green = good...Purple = mafia Yellow = Neutral

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Yep..Green = good...Purple = mafia Yellow = Neutral

Thank you, I'm a noob.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 08:54 PM
If you're good, I'll wear a Browns logo as my avi until the regular season. If you're bad, you wear a Ravens avatar until the regular season. Say yes before I get pay pal involved.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 08:56 PM
If you're good, I'll wear a Browns logo as my avi until the regular season. If you're bad, you wear a Ravens avatar until the regular season. Say yes before I get pay pal involved.

I LIKE IT AND YES! DONE! IT'S A BET!

Any other takers?

fenikz
02-28-2012, 09:00 PM
I'll wear a Matt Bomer sig if you're evil

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 09:03 PM
I'm still willing to roll w/zach but he'll swing for it if he's wrong.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:03 PM
I'll wear a Matt Bomer sig if you're evil

LOL, nice try :) I'm good.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:04 PM
I'm still willing to roll w/zach but he'll swing for it if he's wrong.

I guarantee that he's wrong. My source is me.

He's feeding bad info. The question is if he's doing it intentionally.

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 09:05 PM
also . . . does anyone know wtf is up with vikes? two days in a row he's a no show.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:10 PM
JJB are you a simple townie then ?

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 09:12 PM
I guarantee that he's wrong. My source is me.

He's feeding bad info. The question is if he's doing it intentionally.


Maybe you could tell us a little about what you were doing last night?

You know, Vikes' lack of info is pissing me off. Let's see if voting him brings him out of his hole again.

unvote: JJB

vote: vikes

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:12 PM
JJB are you a simple townie then ?

I don't want to be mod killed, so I'm not sure what I can reveal.

I'm definitely a townie.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:13 PM
Well you are certainly not a townie with no role. So what are you ?

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:13 PM
Maybe you could tell us a little about what you were doing last night?

You know, Vikes' lack of info is pissing me off. Let's see if voting him brings him out of his hole again.

unvote: JJB

vote: vikes

Nothing. Absolutely zilch.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:14 PM
Well you are certainly not a townie with no role. So what are you ?

Did Caddy say we can't discuss our roles? I can't remember.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:15 PM
We can discuss them just don't quote caddy

fenikz
02-28-2012, 09:24 PM
I say no lynching woot because biard > this game

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:33 PM
Also psychopath automatically means 1 psychiatrist in the game right?

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:35 PM
Also psychopath automatically means 1 psychiatrist in the game right?

I'm definitely not a psychiatrist.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:35 PM
You are something JJB I know that. So what are you ? come forward.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:38 PM
You are something JJB I know that. So what are you ? come forward.

You tell us what you are first, then I'll tell you guys.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:38 PM
Also, where is zach?

He drops a vague bomb and takes off.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:38 PM
I'm a regular townie who was holding a grudge against Deep and I need to make the town safe now. its pretty clear

Mr. Goosemahn
02-28-2012, 09:39 PM
I trust Wooty knowing something, and since JoeJoe is denying everything,

Vote: JoeJoeBrown

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm a regular townie who was holding a grudge against Deep and I need to make the town safe now. its pretty clear

I'm a townie that is afraid of everything. I am always bouncing around trying to hide from the bad guys.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 09:46 PM
I trust Wooty knowing something, and since JoeJoe is denying everything,

Vote: JoeJoeBrown

Of course I am denying everything, I'm good. I just gave you guys my role.

You may be evil, on the other hand, and with that flawed logic process (Wooty didn't say I was evil), I'm thinking you are.

zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 09:49 PM
ITs called I am a college kid who has study hours.

I have info saying your evil from a source that's 100% relaible. Why would I say his name so what's left of the mafia can go after him?

And to be honest I never said IBC was evil... I said he was bad. I'm guessing there's a difference.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:50 PM
So the guy is still alive ? hmmm

Hmmm I'm still extremely suspicious of UK at this point since I know he's also up to something.

zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 09:51 PM
And like lasttime, if I am wrong lynch me... I'd still make the same agreement about IBC too

fenikz
02-28-2012, 09:52 PM
7 JBB
1 vikes

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 09:53 PM
Fenikz I love you but what are you ?!

FlyingElvis
02-28-2012, 09:56 PM
He's mafia. I can feel it in my bones.


Also, if JoeJoe is not bad we should wonder why someone would want to make zach look bad.

zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 09:59 PM
Because I am awesome? And I won't be wrong.

Don't forget what I said: The results about IBC said he was bad, not evil.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 10:00 PM
I believe fenikz have an important role in this game. If he wish to come forward with it...it will confirm what I think he is

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 10:00 PM
And like lasttime, if I am wrong lynch me... I'd still make the same agreement about IBC too

You are wrong. You are trying to get me killed on bad info. 100% bad. Your source should be killed. Or you should.

At one point I even banked my life on you being good.

If I am good, you have to have an Ohio State Avatar for the next month.
You can pick the avatar if I'm bad.

fenikz
02-28-2012, 10:02 PM
I believe fenikz have an important role in this game. If he wish to come forward with it...it will confirm what I think he is

I am nothing :)

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 10:02 PM
That's false fenikz ! :o

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 10:03 PM
Because I am awesome? And I won't be wrong.

Don't forget what I said: The results about IBC said he was bad, not evil.

You are completely wrong. You are being irresponsible and are going to get a townie or two killed tonight.

fenikz
02-28-2012, 10:03 PM
Well it can be our secret

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 10:13 PM
Hmmm I'm not sure how take this. What are you fenikz ?

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 10:15 PM
He's a Bomersexual

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 10:26 PM
Ok I'm going to bed. If you guys wait to think on it, I'll vote in the morning.

I am good. Just remember that. Tbw is already going to be sporting a browns avatar.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 10:33 PM
I think Zach need to come with the name of the guy so I can make up my mind.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 10:38 PM
Ok I'm going to bed. If you guys wait to think on it, I'll vote in the morning.

I am good. Just remember that. Tbw is already going to be sporting a browns avatar.

Btw, it takes effect whether or not you're lynched if you didn't observe the wording.

vikes_28
02-28-2012, 10:43 PM
also . . . does anyone know wtf is up with vikes? two days in a row he's a no show.

I apologize, I was out of town and didn't really have time to check my phone/ computer, waiting on a response from caddy regarding what I could find. The night before however I did check out woot only to find a diary. I don't have any details as far as what was in it.

JoeJoeBrown
02-28-2012, 10:48 PM
Btw, it takes effect whether or not you're lynched if you didn't observe the wording.

Understood. It's going to look nice on you. Ok to bed for reals now.

ncst8fan83
02-28-2012, 10:49 PM
I'm going to take the night to sleep on it. I don't feel like JJB has shown anything to be considered mafia to this point.

fenikz
02-29-2012, 01:55 AM
Woot is Anne Frank

SuperMcGee
02-29-2012, 02:14 AM
I had no extra suspicion towards JJB, but many of the people voting for him seem to be on the level. It's not the least comfortable I would feel about a lynching, but I'm getting wary of how some people get their information.

TheBoyWonder22
02-29-2012, 02:27 AM
Well I mean Zach is the source or at least communicated it. Has anyone really proven to be mafia? Everyone left has either been laying low, confirmed good, playing well, or a combination. I think it would be unwise not to vote based on what we have. Zach needs to say who the message is from, it would clear up many things.

Caddy
02-29-2012, 05:45 AM
JJB 7: Zach, Wooty, Raiderz, CJ, TBW, Fenikz, Goose
Vikes 1: Elvis

With 16 people alive, 9 votes are needed to reach a majority.

Just a warning, I'll be away now for 8 hours or so, so if somebody dies, the chatter stops even if the thread stays open. *Insert Mod Kill threat here* :D

zachsaints52
02-29-2012, 07:35 AM
I'm not gonna say who it's from, but I can tell you it's 100% reliable.

Maybe I should just not saying anything because apparently my info isn't good enough. I guarantee if I was IBC and I had a feeling this would already be done with.

eaglesalltheway
02-29-2012, 07:38 AM
Outside of the info that zach has brought forward, the only info we have right now is on JJB, who I've had suspicions of almost since the start (for no reason at the time, perhaps this is the validation?) I haven't had any more than a gut feeling, but now we have proof. He may not even be mafia, but some other threat, as it seems there have been more neutral roles than originally anticipated.

eaglesalltheway
02-29-2012, 07:40 AM
I'm not gonna say who it's from, but I can tell you it's 100% reliable.

Maybe I should just not saying anything because apparently my info isn't good enough. I guarantee if I was IBC and I had a feeling this would already be done with.

Maybe, I personally can't say it'd be any different for me. I've been able to somewhat trust you the whole game as well as IBC. Look at it this way though, zach right now almost 90% of the votes are for the guy you have called for. Who cares how long it takes? Lets make sure we get it right...

ImBrotherCain
02-29-2012, 07:42 AM
I'm not gonna say who it's from, but I can tell you it's 100% reliable.

Maybe I should just not saying anything because apparently my info isn't good enough. I guarantee if I was IBC and I had a feeling this would already be done with.

You're acting kinda petty... Its a game chill out. You have yet to explain yourself as in why. If you give found information and back it with proof or past correctness people will be more inclined to vote.

Not to mention you have 7 people that voted your way. I will trust you and make it 8

Vote: JJB

JoeJoeBrown
02-29-2012, 08:07 AM
You guys are making a bad mistake. At least I get a browns avatar put on TBW.

Btw I'm hanging out over at ncstate's house today if you are looking to lynch me.

JoeJoeBrown
02-29-2012, 08:09 AM
Btw we should lynch Zach for being a wimp that forwards very bad info and hides the source. I used to think he was good, and maybe he is, but he's trying to get townies killed and that is bad IMO.

Vote: lynch Zach

ncst8fan83
02-29-2012, 08:13 AM
You guys are making a bad mistake. At least I get a browns avatar put on TBW.

Btw I'm hanging out over at ncstate's house today if you are looking to lynch me.

don't you put that evil on me, ricky bobby. i'm not even voting for you dude, damn.

zachsaints52
02-29-2012, 08:24 AM
You're acting kinda petty... Its a game chill out. You have yet to explain yourself as in why. If you give found information and back it with proof or past correctness people will be more inclined to vote.

Not to mention you have 7 people that voted your way. I will trust you and make it 8

Vote: JJB


Its not petty, its the fact that they take your word for gold, yet I recieve info from 100% reliable source and I dont get anything. Its kinda redundant for me to try and tell you guys info, when in fact it gets asked about. We trusted Woot, you, Job, others. Just trust me (still pointing out I said you were bad, not evil. Your not mafia, but something else)

FlyingElvis
02-29-2012, 08:24 AM
I don't feel like you've done anywhere near enough to clear yourself when confronted with accusations from a guy who had investigative powers. If he's wrong we lynch the source +/- zach himself.

Unvote: Vikes

Vote: JoeJoeBrown


Thread Closed, as that's a marjority. We'll find out later today who wears what sigs . . .

zachsaints52
02-29-2012, 08:25 AM
End dicussion.

Caddy
02-29-2012, 03:11 PM
The town was now under 50% of its original inhabitants. Panic was surely be setting in. The need to lynch carefully was higher than ever, and by lynching Joe Joe Brown, the town was hoping to rid themselves of another mafia scourge.


Joe Joe Brown (Hider) has been Lynched.

Players have until 6pm EST tomorrow to send in their night actions. If you get them in early, I open the thread early!

Caddy
03-01-2012, 06:50 AM
The final night of the first week of conflict had finally come to an end, but nobody really knew who was winning the battle. Vikes was found in the alley behind a local apartment building (probably stealing underwear) - A single gun shot wound ended his pitiful ginger life. Vikes was good at heart, but nobody would mourn his loss.

Vikes (Burglar) Has been murdered.


Another one bites the dust-ah

With 14 people alive, 8 votes are needed to reach a majority.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 07:32 AM
Well you guys got your wish... He was a good guy. Just like Job and I said.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 07:33 AM
With Vikes being killed, that leads me to believe we still have a killer who is either neutral or maybe even good. If this were the mafia's doing, they may be even dumber than I originally thought. Vikes is an easy target to take down instead of a mafia guy come lynching time, though, come to think of it, this move does prevent a lot of info from him on mafia coming out, so perhaps I see the logic...

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 08:20 AM
A list of recent votes:

JJB 9: Zach, Wooty, Raiderz, CJ, TBW, Fenikz, Goose, Cain, Elvis


JoeJoeBrown (Hider)
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Ngata 10: JJB, Fenikz, Woot, Jvig, TBW, CJ, Raiderz, Goose, NCST8, Cain
Woot 1: Zach,

Ngata (Psychopath)
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Cain 2: Zach, CJ
CCB 10: Cain, Elvis, Bulldogs, TBW, Raiderz, Fenikz, Wooty, Jvig, JJB, EATW
Wooty 2: CCB, Ngata
CCB(Mafia Roleblocker)
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ATL 12: Job, CJ, Fenikz, NCst8, Zach, Goose, Diab, Cain, EATW, Ngata, TBW, JJB
Raiderz 6: Elivs, ATL, CCB, Vikes, Bulldogs

ATL (Forensic Investigator)
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Vikes 1: ATL
Woot 8: UK, Raiderz, Fenikz, Vid, Vikes, EATW, Ngata, Snicho
Vid 13: Bulldogs, JJB, CJ, Job, DUnit, Cain, Woot, Brody, Jvig, CCB, NCST8, Zach Raidersz, TBW
Vidae (Mafia Godfather)
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Vikes 3: Brody, Fenikz, ATL
Woot 2: UKfan, Ncst8
Jensen 16: Cain, Bhaarat, Vikes, Vid, Jvig, CJ, Bulldogs, Raiderz, TBW, Snicho, Zach, Goose, DUnit, Wooty, Ngata, Diab.
EATW 1: Scotty

Jensen (Mafia Goon)

God damn it Caddy your posts are a mess...

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 08:33 AM
I think its time to take a long hard look at UKfan.

Someone is going to do it so I will beat them to it... That's what she said.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 08:40 AM
I'd say we're pretty well ****** at the moment. Pretty much all of our information lines have been cut or discredited. Vikes showed up just long enough to say he was busy and still post zero information for us. I knew we should have just lynched his ass ourselves. lol

So, the obvious question, I think, is for Zach. Who was the "100% reliable" source, and why should we not lynch them and then you?

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 08:46 AM
So on the UKFan front. I found 2 interesting things... UKs last post was on 2/26 which was the day before this happened:
The town struck gold yesterday, lynching themselves another mafia member - bringing the town one step closer to safety and eliminating the mafia threat. The last thing they needed was more civilian casualties. Fortunately for the town, they made it through the night and didn't lose anyone.

Nobody has been murdered!

Party time!...

With 18 people alive, 10 votes are needed to reach a majority.


But he was active as late as 2am last night. He also didn't vote for Vidae, Jensen or CCB. He has hung back, hidden on the edge of town barley getting any suspicion. Somethings not right here.

Vote: UKFan

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 09:03 AM
It's pretty much going to be a game of darts unless we get someone to come forward with useful info. Did anyone get anything last night that can help this town?

I'll follow your lead IBC, but I'd like to hear what Zach has to say today.

TheBoyWonder22
03-01-2012, 09:05 AM
Last night Zach admitted to be a framer in RDT. He should be the second to last mafia guy.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 09:08 AM
Well that changes everything...
Well I'm dead. It was fun while it lasted.

So I guess I'm not understanding this whole framer thing. Does he pick the person that gets framed or a person who has the power and reverses it.

Unvote: UKFan
Vote: Zach

I knew something wasn't right about him... Thank you all for voting to Lynch me on his command. At least you came to your senses.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 09:13 AM
HAHAHA. It was so obvious Zach wasn't good. No person could actually be that dumb. His voting record was beyond awful.

Vote: Zachsaints

TheBoyWonder22
03-01-2012, 09:22 AM
Yeah you're all welcome for being the only one to pay attention.
Vote:zachsaints

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 09:24 AM
Yeah you're all welcome for being the only one to pay attention.
Vote:zachsaints

Thats just cause you have to wear that avy now lol.

Also who comes out and says their role in another thread... Esp when he might not have been killed. Though this makes me worry about the backlash we are going to experience tonight.

zachsaints52
03-01-2012, 09:25 AM
No, I said I'm dead because I agreed if I was wrong, u can lynch me. I actually mean it, unlike other people. The reason I asked bout the framer was bc I lied about being a semi-investigator. I figured once I told info about IBC the mafia would go after me, so I said I used it all up. But, like I said, since I was wrong, lynch me.

Vote:Zachsaints52

But I'm still confused about the framer role. Does he pick a person and if you investigate them, their good/evil is reversed, or the framer picks a person whose abilities show the reverse of anyone they pick?

Also, I know it don't matter, but here is who I investigated each night.

Night 1: Shane (Didnt get anything because he was dead)
Night 2: EATW (Good)
Night 3: Jvig (Good)
Night 4: IBC (Bad) Yeah I lied about the other guy thing.
Night 5: TBW (Good)
Night 6: JoeJoeBrown (Evil)
Night 7: Once I saw jjb was good, I know was gonna die, because I said I would, so I investigated Cain again and this time it said (Evil)

Like I said, since I was wrong vote me out. It was fun and hope you get the mafia guys!
2:

zachsaints52
03-01-2012, 09:29 AM
HAHAHA. It was so obvious Zach wasn't good. No person could actually be that dumb. His voting record was beyond awful.

Vote: Zachsaints

Thanks for the personal attack dick. I'm sorry I have never played before, and my voting record went only avaunt two people that we didn't vote. So like I said be aware of IBC and Bulldogs. That is all.

TheBoyWonder22
03-01-2012, 09:33 AM
Thats just cause you have to wear that avy now lol.

Also who comes out and says their role in another thread... Esp when he might not have been killed. Though this makes me worry about the backlash we are going to experience tonight.
It's awful. Haha, I had to turn off my ability to see avatars. Hey Zach, would you mind getting modkillled by quoting Caddy? It would speed this up a lot. Thanks buddy.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 09:38 AM
No, I said I'm dead because I agreed if I was wrong, u can lynch me. I actually mean it, unlike other people. The reason I asked bout the framer was bc I lied about being a semi-investigator. I figured once I told info about IBC the mafia would go after me, so I said I used it all up. But, like I said, since I was wrong, lynch me.

Vote:Zachsaints52

But I'm still confused about the framer role. Does he pick a person and if you investigate them, their good/evil is reversed, or the framer picks a person whose abilities show the reverse of anyone they pick?

Also, I know it don't matter, but here is who I investigated each night.

Night 1: Shane (Didnt get anything because he was dead)
Night 2: EATW (Good)
Night 3: Jvig (Good)
Night 4: IBC (Bad) Yeah I lied about the other guy thing.
Night 5: TBW (Good)
Night 6: JoeJoeBrown (Evil)
Night 7: Once I saw jjb was good, I know was gonna die, because I said I would, so I investigated Cain again and this time it said (Evil)

Like I said, since I was wrong vote me out. It was fun and hope you get the mafia guys!
2:

You dont investigate... Framers make people look bad.

zachsaints52
03-01-2012, 09:39 AM
Besides, if I was the framer why would I ask you about the role and not caddy? That doesn't make sense. And I don't wanna do that to Caddy having to mod kill. I agreed if I was wrong, to lynch me. So lynch me.

zachsaints52
03-01-2012, 09:40 AM
I didn't say I was the framer, I was asking about the framers role bc I don't understand what they do. How do you not understand that?

CJSchneider
03-01-2012, 09:42 AM
This one seems pretty straight forward
Vote: zachsaints

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 09:48 AM
As much as Zachsaints deserves to die for completely ignoring my previous statements (which included an explanation of a framer), I kind of buy what he says about not actually being evil. And thus, I feel like it would be a wasted lynch. I'm going with IBC's other hunch, somebody who I feel has been evil the entire game.

Unvote: Zachsaints

Vote: UKfan

By the way, if anybody has a power, now is the time to use it. We have only 1-2 evil guys left and can finish them now. I'm talking to you Fenikz, CJ, Goosemahn, Ncst8, UKfan. Not all of you can be vanilla townies, let's finish this game already.

zachsaints52
03-01-2012, 09:54 AM
As much as Zachsaints deserves to die for completely ignoring my previous statements (which included an explanation of a framer), I kind of buy what he says about not actually being evil. And thus, I feel like it would be a wasted lynch. I'm going with IBC's other hunch, somebody who I feel has been evil the entire game.

Unvote: Zachsaints

Vote: UKfan

By the way, if anybody has a power, now is the time to use it. We have only 1-2 evil guys left and can finish them now. I'm talking to you Fenikz, CJ, Goosemahn, Ncst8, UKfan. Not all of you can be vanilla townies, let's finish this game already.

No, vote for me because I said I would go if I was wrong, and I was.

But let me leave you with my thoughts others:

IBC is not pro town. He can say what he wants, but once you see I am what I am (investigator) remember what I said about who I voted last night. If a framer picks a person to be framed, why would he pick IBC again? But if a framer is someone that picks a person (me) and whoever I investigate is reversed, then maybe IBC is good. But remember that: Two times investigated, 1 bad, 1 evil.

And if you actually look into IBC, remember Bulldogs as the guy who follows him (I showed his post a while ago)

This is my last post overall in this, because I fully expect to be lynched (and I should since I was wrong)

Most of you, this was fun! Cant wait until next time.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 09:56 AM
Last night Zach admitted to be a framer in RDT. He should be the second to last mafia guy.

I think he was asking if he was framed, lol.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 09:56 AM
No, vote for me because I said I would go if I was wrong, and I was.

But let me leave you with my thoughts others:

IBC is not pro town. He can say what he wants, but once you see I am what I am (investigator) remember what I said about who I voted last night. If a framer picks a person to be framed, why would he pick IBC again? But if a framer is someone that picks a person (me) and whoever I investigate is reversed, then maybe IBC is good. But remember that: Two times investigated, 1 bad, 1 evil.

And if you actually look into IBC, remember Bulldogs as the guy who follows him (I showed his post a while ago)

This is my last post overall in this, because I fully expect to be lynched (and I should since I was wrong)

Most of you, this was fun! Cant wait until next time.

I find it laughable you still think we're together somehow. Are woot and FlyingElvis in this top secret alliance too? Or are we just townies who actually understand how to use reason?

Again, I'm not going to lynch you. You don't have to talk the rest of the game for all I care, but it's a wasted lynch. We'll lose a valuable asset to the town tonight by wasting it on you. Now you understand why I didn't go along with your dumb lynching of IBC. He had the right idea before he saw your post in the RDT.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 09:57 AM
No, vote for me because I said I would go if I was wrong, and I was.

But let me leave you with my thoughts others:

IBC is not pro town. He can say what he wants, but once you see I am what I am (investigator) remember what I said about who I voted last night. If a framer picks a person to be framed, why would he pick IBC again? But if a framer is someone that picks a person (me) and whoever I investigate is reversed, then maybe IBC is good. But remember that: Two times investigated, 1 bad, 1 evil.

And if you actually look into IBC, remember Bulldogs as the guy who follows him (I showed his post a while ago)

This is my last post overall in this, because I fully expect to be lynched (and I should since I was wrong)

Most of you, this was fun! Cant wait until next time.

DUDE I AM NOT MAFIA OR NEUTRAL. I have stated that fact for oh IDK a week now.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 09:57 AM
I didn't say I was the framer, I was asking about the framers role bc I don't understand what they do. How do you not understand that?

Honestly, you're questions about a role that is exactly what it says it is makes my decision easy. I will say you played it well. But everyone on your list turns out to be previously cleared (making you look honest) or they were mysteriously framed on the one night you chose to investigate them.

Vote: ZachSaints

As much as Zachsaints deserves to die for completely ignoring my previous statements (which included an explanation of a framer), I kind of buy what he says about not actually being evil. And thus, I feel like it would be a wasted lynch. I'm going with IBC's other hunch, somebody who I feel has been evil the entire game.

By the way, if anybody has a power, now is the time to use it. We have only 1-2 evil guys left and can finish them now. I'm talking to you Fenikz, CJ, Goosemahn, Ncst8, UKfan. Not all of you can be vanilla townies, let's finish this game already.

It might even be prudent for EATW (or anyone else with an invention?) to try it out. We know EATW is good so his findings can be trusted, assuming it doesn't kill, disable, or mislead him.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:00 AM
Well that changes everything...


Unvote: UKFan
Vote: Zach

I knew something wasn't right about him... Thank you all for voting to Lynch me on his command. At least you came to your senses.

All? Your supporters . . . cut deep we are . . .

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:01 AM
I will say this... Even if Zach is a framer. He doesn't kill thus making him not priority number one.

Unvote: Zach
Vote: UkFan

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:02 AM
All? Your supporters . . . cut deep we are . . .

There were a few of you that had my back and I am thankful... All meaning the Majority of ppl playing this game.

TheBoyWonder22
03-01-2012, 10:05 AM
Why would a neutral person frame people? How would that benefit them? I'm not entirely sure what to think, but I think lynching UK without concrete evidence would not be a good thing

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:09 AM
Why would a neutral person frame people? How would that benefit them? I'm not entirely sure what to think, but I think lynching UK without concrete evidence would not be a good thing

Agreed. Let's get some more votes on him and see what he has to say for himself though. At the very least he has been awfully suspicious.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:09 AM
Why would a neutral person frame people? How would that benefit them? I'm not entirely sure what to think, but I think lynching UK without concrete evidence would not be a good thing

But Zach may play with out much finesse or skill at times he might not actually be bad but misguided. Thus leaving us with bigger fish to fry.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:11 AM
Why would a neutral person frame people? How would that benefit them? I'm not entirely sure what to think, but I think lynching UK without concrete evidence would not be a good thing

Framer isn't neutral.

Also, I think the mafia get to kill either way. There is most likely a mafia hitman (or two?) alive since we haven't got one yet, but even if we get him I beleive the ability to kill passes to another mafia role. Otherwise, the mafia's only hope would be to win via nightly lynchings.

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:14 AM
Who was your goddamn 100% reliable source zach ?

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:15 AM
Also JJB said he was hiding in ncst house...

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:16 AM
You guys are making a bad mistake. At least I get a browns avatar put on TBW.

Btw I'm hanging out over at ncstate's house today if you are looking to lynch me.

See this post for reference.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 10:16 AM
Honestly, you're questions about a role that is exactly what it says it is makes my decision easy. I will say you played it well. But everyone on your list turns out to be previously cleared (making you look honest) or they were mysteriously framed on the one night you chose to investigate them.

Vote: ZachSaints



It might even be prudent for EATW (or anyone else with an invention?) to try it out. We know EATW is good so his findings can be trusted, assuming it doesn't kill, disable, or mislead him.

I still have no plans for the invention I got. At this point, unless we get word of an invention actually working, I'd rather not even use it than it potentially killing me or (possibly?) someone else.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:16 AM
Alright, I think I can clear two of the people I was very suspicious of.

CJScheider - Thought he might be mafia, some things I read of his now lead me to believe other wise. Was one of the first to vote out vidae, also got rid of Jensen. I'm too lazy to get all the quotes but after reading all he's said in the thread it doesn't seem to me like mafia. I will say he's been more quiet than usual.

Fenikz - Another guy that's been more quiet than usual. However, he was one of the first to come out and vote to lynch CCB, and they got in an argument which I don't feel two mafia members would do. He also didn't jump on IBC, something I feel a mafia member would have done at this point.

Perhaps these two have big powers they are afraid to speak of in fear of death? If you guys can help us, there is probably only one bad guy left, so now is the time to use those abilities.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:17 AM
Who was your goddamn 100% reliable source zach ?
He says he is his own source because he lied about being a mini-investigator and was still investigating people directly.

Also JJB said he was hiding in ncst house...

What are we supposed to take from this? Stuff I'm seeing says "may" die if they hide in a mafia / SK house.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:19 AM
He says he is his own source because he lied about being a mini-investigator and was still investigating people directly.



What are we supposed to take from this?

Perhaps that Ncst8 is good? I don't think you would hide in a bad guy's house. After reading this, and now that I feel like Fenikz and CJ are good, I'm fairly confident that UKfan is evil. There really isn't any other options.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:20 AM
CJ was cleared early by Broduer.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:20 AM
Perhaps that Ncst8 is good? I don't think you would hide in a bad guy's house. After reading this, and now that I feel like Fenikz and CJ are good, I'm fairly confident that UKfan is evil. There really isn't any other options.

Ninja edit! lol

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:21 AM
Vote : UK

Suspicious of him for a while now.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:22 AM
CJ was cleared early by Broduer.

So to me the mafia is down to:

Fenikz (I don't see it after reading his posts. I believe he is good)
Ncst8 (Would JJB really choose to hide out at a bad guy's house?)
UKfan (best option IMO)

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:25 AM
Ncst8 was cleared by EATW i think

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 10:25 AM
Zach said to vote for him if he came back wrong, and I have been slightly suspicious of him for a while. He may seem like he is playing like a bull n a china shop, but I have a feeling he may be psyching us all out here with that to make us think he is good. If not, and he gets lynched, looks like we're all a bunch of Dr. Kevorkians with this assisted suicide. I do believe he is a threat though, which is the main reason why I'm voting for him

vote:zachsaints

CJSchneider
03-01-2012, 10:26 AM
My quietness has been a direct result of playing this round of the game as honest as possible with no messages to any other player. Where it has certainly made the game different, it has also been interesting to view the dynamic of the game from this stand-point.

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:27 AM
Unvote : UK
Vote : Zach

I agree with EATW.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:28 AM
Zach said to vote for him if he came back wrong, and I have been slightly suspicious of him for a while. He may seem like he is playing like a bull n a china shop, but I have a feeling he may be psyching us all out here with that to make us think he is good. If not, and he gets lynched, looks like we're all a bunch of Dr. Kevorkians with this assisted suicide. I do believe he is a threat though, which is the main reason why I'm voting for him

vote:zachsaints

I don't see it. Just because Zach was wrong doesn't mean he deserves a lynch. Same thing happened to woot. I honestly believe Zach is just a noob, and doesn't understand how to play the game. At worst, he is a framer, and in that case he can wait until next week. People are dying every night, mostly those who can get information (Jvig and Vikes in consecutive weeks). The mafia goon needs to die now.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:29 AM
Unvote : UK
Vote : Zach

I agree with EATW.

Woot, you of all people should know this is the wrong choice. We didn't turn around and lynch you the next week. Let's just ignore him the rest of the game and get the real threat in UKfan right now.

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:29 AM
You are going for UK bulldogs ?

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 10:30 AM
Ncst8 was cleared by EATW i think

I got word that he is good. I received a letter (I think it was night 3 or 4, I'm not looking back on my pms) without a return address or name saying he was good. I have a feeling it was from Brody (it was whatever night Brody died, I think night 3), because he was one of one or two guys who trusted me at the time. So I THINK the info was was from Brody, but I'm not sure. But I have faith and I'm pretty sure that ncst8 is good.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:30 AM
My quietness has been a direct result of playing this round of the game as honest as possible with no messages to any other player. Where it has certainly made the game different, it has also been interesting to view the dynamic of the game from this stand-point.

Plenty of people aren't PMing and stay active though. Do you not have an ability you could use to help us at this point? I don't have any info and have been the most active poster here.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:31 AM
You are going for UK bulldogs ?

Yes because with CJ, Fenikz, and NC being cleared he is really the last option.

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Fair enough

Unvote : Zach
Vote : UK

CJSchneider
03-01-2012, 10:33 AM
Plenty of people aren't PMing and stay active though. Do you not have an ability you could use to help us at this point? I don't have any info and have been the most active poster here.

I can offer no help at present. I could merely offer incidents were certain members, who are still living, were honest. These individuals are not presently under any suspicion.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:34 AM
My quietness has been a direct result of playing this round of the game as honest as possible with no messages to any other player. Where it has certainly made the game different, it has also been interesting to view the dynamic of the game from this stand-point.

I hate cheating in these things... It really ruins the game. I would rather figure it out on my own or die trying.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:34 AM
8 votes needed to lynch

UKfan: IBC, Bulldogs, Woot
Zachsaints: CJSchneider, EATW, zachsaints, FlyingElvis

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:34 AM
Just to revisit this:

New notes in purple.

100% Cleared:
Zachsaints - cleared by Broduer and revealed role as limited investigator

I'd like to revisit the discussion about cop roles. Brody did't say he was outright innocent and I don't think he investigated ZS. So, does the chief know who all of the games cops/investigators are from the start?

CJSchneider - cleared by Broduer
Eaglesalltheway - cleared by Broduer & ZS
The Boy Wonder - good neighbor
Jvig - cleared by Zachsaints deceased
Vikes - thief (clear unless he’s a non-townie in this game) deceased
Raiderz - priest (confirmed by Vikes)

Clear, right?
Wooty - lyncher role, should be neutral/townie, therefore a non-threat. Still the possibility he is mafia or killer and has (to this point) pulled off a whopper of a lie and an incredibly bold & risky play right out of the gate.

Interesting twist:
Cain - feeding us mafia but found bad by ZS
Which leaves us with the following options:
1. Worst. Mobster. Ever. - Seems highly unlikely to be mafia. Turning one goon in to gain the town’s trust would be brilliant. Turning it two and immediately jumping on with two more (ie. not simply casting the late vote when all is lost) would be suicide. It just burns the mafia’s chances of winning too quickly. One of those was even the Godfather . . . just way too hard to believe.
2. “It was the one-armed man!” - Framed! lol . . . There’s still the possibility that a framer is out there and targeting IBC would be a brilliant strategy for that role.
3. IBC = BTK? - You cheeky mother******. Gaining the town’s trust whilst picking us off at night would be pretty damn smart. There is the incident where Bhaarat was followed by IBC and ended up dead. The classic “why would I tell you I followed him” response would be another genius bit of misdirection. Attempts to paint Zach as an insane priest after saying you believe Raiderz to be priest and after the vote of confidence by our police chief are way beyond highly suspicious, as well. And selling out on a sig bet to get the solo win as and SK . . . wow! Consider yourself on watch but please take heart in the fact that, as long as you keep helping the town, you could stay the executioner’s hand. For now.
**New note: anyone else think it's a bit suspicious that IBC lost his vision and nobody died? Obviously there are other killers, but this could be yet another clue that IBC is, in fact, bad.

I think this applies to IBC still, though obviously we'd have to have two serial killers in our midst.

Suspicious:
Flying Elvis - I know I’m good, do you?
Bulldog - I’m liking the body of work and see BD as “the voice of reason” atm.
JoeJoeBrown - unsure . . . time to look at the available info. Voted Vidae pretty early in the game, with about 8 votes still needed to secure the noose which bodes well for non-mafia. deceased
McGee - unsure. A bit of deflection to D-Unit’s logic regarding the players online at the time of Caddy’s updates.
UKFan - unsure. Still a pretty tough read going through all posts.
Fenikz - I still think you’re bad and it’s no longer you’re birthday. I have a rope I’d like to show you.
Mr. Goosemahn - “It’s quiet. Too quiet.” Too nonchalant for my tastes, even if I am a n00b. Saying you’re uninvolved b/c you’re simply vanilla fits too nicely. The very last vote against Vidae.
Ngata Chance - Bad? Only vocal on votes that turned out bad for the town, very defensive of CCB despite the fact that Jvig & IBC both backed lynching him. Voted Woot late when Vidae was going down, looking like an attempt to help the Godfather. Also on D-Unit’s list of suspicious b/c he was online at the time of Caddy’s update. deceased
NCSt8 - bad? Also jumped on the Vidae bandwagon very late, just after CCB voted for vid. Mafia vote late when the tide can’t be turned. However, Job was “fairly confident in ncst not being bad.”

JoeJoeBrown was hiding in NCSt8's house so it's a safe guess he's good, too.
Nice tip on your way to the gallows JJB, even when the town turned it's anger and pitchforks you're way you still tried to help.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 10:36 AM
I don't see it. Just because Zach was wrong doesn't mean he deserves a lynch. Same thing happened to woot. I honestly believe Zach is just a noob, and doesn't understand how to play the game. At worst, he is a framer, and in that case he can wait until next week. People are dying every night, mostly those who can get information (Jvig and Vikes in consecutive weeks). The mafia goon needs to die now.

I think we have more mafia people left that you seem to think (1 guy who has power to kill? I think it is at least two, no more than three though). And vikes death could potentially be a non mafia killer as well, but here is the problem... We don't have a single goddamn clue about who either of them could be! Zach has been suspicious almost from the gate for me, but I think as he has gone on, he has learned some subtle tricks. I personally think him putting himself on the chopping block to look like a martyr is a clever ruse. Think about it, he gave wrong info and said, right from the start of yesterday (which is why I think this is suspicious) that if he was wrong, lynch him. This seems like he knew he would come back wrong and did this to make himself seem innocent, right from the start of yesterday, when his results came back wrong.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:38 AM
Please everyone... Zach was never cleared by Brody

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 10:39 AM
I still believe we should get zach this round and then UK.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:40 AM
I think we have more mafia people left that you seem to think (1 guy who has power to kill? I think it is at least two, no more than three though). And vikes death could potentially be a non mafia killer as well, but here is the problem... We don't have a single goddamn clue about who either of them could be! Zach has been suspicious almost from the gate for me, but I think as he has gone on, he has learned some subtle tricks. I personally think him putting himself on the chopping block to look like a martyr is a clever ruse. Think about it, he gave wrong info and said, right from the start of yesterday (which is why I think this is suspicious) that if he was wrong, lynch him. This seems like he knew he would come back wrong and did this to make himself seem innocent, right from the start of yesterday, when his results came back wrong.

I think at most we have two bad guys left. The way I see it though, is as I said earlier, Zach is at worst a framer. Let's kill him next week if after the goon dies the game isn't over. Do you really think the way he's been playing that he's savvy enough to assume we wouldn't kill him no matter what? This is coming from me, who hasn't been a fan of the way Zachsaints has played at all. We still have a killer on the loose, and with the new info we have clearing Ncst8 and CJ, I think it's pretty evident UKfan is evil. We have more evidence on him than we had on either Vid or Jensen.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:41 AM
I still believe we should get zach this round and then UK.

Refer to my other post. Let's get the killer then the possible framer (I still think he just doesn't know how to play very well).

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:43 AM
I don't see it. Just because Zach was wrong doesn't mean he deserves a lynch. Same thing happened to woot. I honestly believe Zach is just a noob, and doesn't understand how to play the game. At worst, he is a framer, and in that case he can wait until next week. People are dying every night, mostly those who can get information (Jvig and Vikes in consecutive weeks). The mafia goon needs to die now.

He's either a n00b we can't trust because his info is bad or he's playing you all like the devil on fiddle. If it's the former, his info is bad and we end the confusion. If it's the latter, we get a framer. Asking about the role in RDT is brilliant, imo and makes me supsicious despite a luke warm clear by Brody. Especially given the fact that ZS spent so much time early in the thread citing his time spent researching roles elsewhere on the web.

I think we have more mafia people left that you seem to think (1 guy who has power to kill? I think it is at least two, no more than three though). And vikes death could potentially be a non mafia killer as well, but here is the problem... We don't have a single goddamn clue about who either of them could be! Zach has been suspicious almost from the gate for me, but I think as he has gone on, he has learned some subtle tricks. I personally think him putting himself on the chopping block to look like a martyr is a clever ruse. Think about it, he gave wrong info and said, right from the start of yesterday (which is why I think this is suspicious) that if he was wrong, lynch him. This seems like he knew he would come back wrong and did this to make himself seem innocent, right from the start of yesterday, when his results came back wrong.

I agree. We still have not lynched a mafia hitman and several deaths were execution style. Whether that is the work of a hitman vs. plain old goon can only be known with certainty by Caddy. But I still say there are 2 or more left, and assuming less is dangerous to the town.

Also, see my previous post regarding the killing role of mafia. From what I've read, it seems that the ability to kill is passed on if a goon/hitman is taken out. So assuming the framer isn't a threat is also a bad idea.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Refer to my other post. Let's get the killer then the possible framer (I still think he just doesn't know how to play very well).

Oh I know... I agreed with you and changed back to UK. But Elvis and Zach have been saying that Zach has been cleared by Brody but he was never actually cleared.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Oh I know... I agreed with you and changed to UK. But Elvis and Zach have been saying that Zach has been cleared by Brody but he was never actually cleared.

Sorry meant to quote Woot.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 10:45 AM
I think at most we have two bad guys left. The way I see it though, is as I said earlier, Zach is at worst a framer. Let's kill him next week if after the goon dies the game isn't over. This is coming from me, who hasn't been a fan of the way Zachsaints has played at all. We still have a killer on the loose, and with the new info we have clearing Ncst8 and CJ, I think it's pretty evident UKfan is evil. We have more evidence on him than we had on either Vid or Jensen.

I still believe there are two factions of mafia, I've thought that almost from the beginning, either we totally took out one of the factions, or there are two groups still left (maybe the one faction has only one guy left, and he is their godfather so he can't kill? and there is another faction with as many as three in this example) idk, two godfathers seems unrealistic now that I think of it, but perhaps there is a split type of deal where that those two separate groups could join up after being taken out? IDK i think we still have two people who can kill left in this game, and at least one godfather type role that is in the mafia, but can't kill themself.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 10:46 AM
Oh I know... I agreed with you and changed back to UK. But Elvis and Zach have been saying that Zach has been cleared by Brody but he was never actually cleared.

I have been saying he has a luke warm clear but nothing 100% - though now that I say that I should edit my post citing all remaining players.

Again, does anyone know if the Chief would know all investigators?

Also, let's just vote Zach and be done with it.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 10:47 AM
I am 90% sure there are not two mafia groups.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 10:48 AM
I have been saying he has a luke warm clear but nothing 100% - though now that I say that I should edit my post citing all remaining players.

Again, does anyone know if the Chief would know all investigators?

Also, let's just vote Zach and be done with it.

I don't like this, mainly because I feel like UKfan will kill me tonight. I didn't make it this far for nothing. I'm almost certain he is mafia.

CJSchneider
03-01-2012, 10:51 AM
I don't like this, mainly because I feel like UKfan will kill me tonight. I didn't make it this far for nothing. I'm almost certain he is mafia.

I am placing my trust in you on this one.

Unvote:ZS
Vote: UKfan

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 11:02 AM
I don't like this, mainly because I feel like UKfan will kill me tonight. I didn't make it this far for nothing. I'm almost certain he is mafia.

I'll do the same as CJ.

Unvote: ZS

Vote: UKFan

CJSchneider
03-01-2012, 11:06 AM
8 votes needed to lynch

UKfan: IBC, Bulldogs, Woot, CJSchneider, FlyingElvis
Zachsaints: EATW, zachsaints

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 11:10 AM
Ukfan has been browsing the thread for like 10 mins now. Waiting to hear what he has to say for himself. I'm guessing it's something along the line of I'm a vanilla townie with no powers.

UKfan
03-01-2012, 11:11 AM
I am simply going to say this, vote for me if you wish. I would certainly like to see the evidence stacking up against me though. Granted I haven't been the most active town member and for that I apologise. But other than that I fail to see what I have done to arouse suspicion. I realise this in and of itself can be seen as a valid motive, trying to lay low and so on but the simple fact is that I have been busy, and when I was around I didn't have any information to offer and wanted to let the guys who had the arguments, reasoning and investigative powers to come to the fore.

There was also a post further back about me being on as late as 2am in the morning, 2am US time is about 7am UK time (I am in England) and was me checking in first thing before I head out to work.

I'd also like to point out that a number of non-mafia have died via lynching, and I have not been involved in that either.

If it is the fact that I went hard after Woot early on, I explained my reasoning behind that as he was a confirmed liar and I questioned his motives as a result of this. I've since been convinced by Job and others (as you can see in my posts) that I was wrong on that and have since backed off of that.

I'm heading out again tonight from about 6.15 UK time (1.15 US time ish) and wont be back til late, so if that explanation is not enough and you still want me lynched, that's fine, I've said my piece.

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 11:13 AM
What are you UK ?

You have a night role I'm 100% sure about that.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 11:14 AM
Yeah I'd like some questions answered before you head out. I find it very interesting you didn't vote to lynch any of the following: vidae, Ngatachance, CCB, and Jensen.

UKfan
03-01-2012, 11:17 AM
I'm grabbing some dinner right now, so ask your questions Bulldogs and I will get to them when I have eaten.

Raiderz4Life
03-01-2012, 11:17 AM
I'll help bd's cause

vote: uk

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 11:17 AM
Now we are gonna see if he's gonna tell us some BS, saying he has no night role. I'm 100% sure he has one.

Just to be sure he don't get lynched before he answer

unvote UK

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 11:20 AM
I'm grabbing some dinner right now, so ask your questions Bulldogs and I will get to them when I have eaten.

As woot said, what is your night role, I'm positive you have some sort of power. Also, why didn't you vote to lynch any of the evil people. Even just one of them would have been reassuring. If anybody else wants to ask something feel free.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 11:22 AM
I'm grabbing some dinner right now, so ask your questions Bulldogs and I will get to them when I have eaten.

What are you having for dinner?

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 11:22 AM
Bulldogs I'm fairly certain you discovered my deductive powers ;)

Peoples with night roles that I know of : Fenikz, Mcgee, FE (was talking to somebody last night) and UK, Bulldogs (I know you are something probably good since you are with me)

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 11:25 AM
Bulldogs I'm fairly certain you discovered my deductive powers ;)

Peoples with night roles that I know of : Fenikz, Mcgee, FE (was talking to somebody last night) and UK, Bulldogs (I know you are something probably good since you are with me)

Are they powers or is it just that they had an action (i.e. sent or received something) Were you told specifically they have night powers or not? Because that could be real confusing.

Wootylicous
03-01-2012, 11:27 AM
They had actions at night that's all. Don't know if they are good or bad but since Bulldogs and FE are acting for the good of the city so is Mcgee, I'm pretty sure they are good people

UKfan
03-01-2012, 11:27 AM
What are you having for dinner?

I had a shepherds pie, ate it in about 5 minutes flat. More answers to come.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 11:29 AM
I had a shepherds pie, ate it in about 5 minutes flat. More answers to come.

LIAR!



:p


10char

SuperMcGee
03-01-2012, 11:30 AM
The only thing that gave me hesitance with zach were Brodeur's early indications about him. Besides that, some of his actions/claims make me suspect him to be in a sort of traitorous role.

UKfan
03-01-2012, 11:37 AM
As woot said, what is your night role, I'm positive you have some sort of power. Also, why didn't you vote to lynch any of the evil people. Even just one of them would have been reassuring. If anybody else wants to ask something feel free.

I didn't vote for Vidae as at that point I was still firmly on the Woot bandwagon. I wasn't fully convinced by the people claiming they had concrete evidence on him (it's early in a game, people have their own agendas and so on), whereas we had 100% confirmed two lies told by Woot (saying that Deep was bad, saying he could investigate in the day), I felt it was the right move to go after the guy who had confirmed himself at the very least as suspicious. I understand now that he was a guy with a grudge and just lying to keep himself alive once his grudge had been satisfied.

For the rest of them, quite simply, I have not voted in the rounds for a number of rounds now. Yes I missed the votes for the evil guys, but I also did not vote for the good guys.

See IBC's post here and you will see I simply have not voted since Vidae's lynching http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2881486&#post2881486

On revealing my role, yes as Woot has mentioned I have a night power, I'm pretty much done after this anyway but... I am a doctor. I visit a member of the town at night, and if they are targeted I have the power to keep them alive. I tried to keep under the radar as much as possible as I figure this is a pretty important role, but at this point I am dead either way.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 11:38 AM
I didn't vote for Vidae as at that point I was still firmly on the Woot bandwagon. I wasn't fully convinced by the people claiming they had concrete evidence on him (it's early in a game, people have their own agendas and so on), whereas we had 100% confirmed two lies told by Woot (saying that Deep was bad, saying he could investigate in the day), I felt it was the right move to go after the guy who had confirmed himself at the very least as suspicious. I understand now that he was a guy with a grudge and just lying to keep himself alive once his grudge had been satisfied.

For the rest of them, quite simply, I have not voted in the rounds for a number of rounds now. Yes I missed the votes for the evil guys, but I also did not vote for the good guys.

See IBC's post here and you will see I simply have not voted since Vidae's lynching http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2881486&#post2881486

On revealing my role, yes as Woot has mentioned I have a night power, I'm pretty much done after this anyway but... I am a doctor. I visit a member of the town at night, and if they are targeted I have the power to keep them alive. I tried to keep under the radar as much as possible as I figure this is a pretty important role, but at this point I am dead either way.

Who have you protected and what nights. If you are a doctor that would explain some things.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 11:40 AM
I didn't vote for Vidae as at that point I was still firmly on the Woot bandwagon. I wasn't fully convinced by the people claiming they had concrete evidence on him (it's early in a game, people have their own agendas and so on), whereas we had 100% confirmed two lies told by Woot (saying that Deep was bad, saying he could investigate in the day), I felt it was the right move to go after the guy who had confirmed himself at the very least as suspicious. I understand now that he was a guy with a grudge and just lying to keep himself alive once his grudge had been satisfied.

For the rest of them, quite simply, I have not voted in the rounds for a number of rounds now. Yes I missed the votes for the evil guys, but I also did not vote for the good guys.

See IBC's post here and you will see I simply have not voted since Vidae's lynching http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2881486&#post2881486

On revealing my role, yes as Woot has mentioned I have a night power, I'm pretty much done after this anyway but... I am a doctor. I visit a member of the town at night, and if they are targeted I have the power to keep them alive. I tried to keep under the radar as much as possible as I figure this is a pretty important role, but at this point I am dead either way.

Sorry guys, I'm sticking with zach, even if this is a lie I can't risk losing a doctor for our town. As long as this stuff checks out, its obvious we are taking down zach at this point.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 11:43 AM
We need some confirmation, but it's prudent atm to

Unvote: UKFan

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 11:46 AM
Sorry guys, I'm sticking with zach, even if this is a lie I can't risk losing a doctor for our town. As long as this stuff checks out, its obvious we are taking down zach at this point.

He makes a solid point... If we lynch him we are just doing the Mafias job. If we don't then if he is truly not Mafia the mafia will kill him tonight.

Unvote: UKFan

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 11:49 AM
Alright since UKfan won't come out and say it, he is lying. I wouldn't come out and say this if I didn't think he would kill me tonight. I also believe he might be the final piece to the puzzle (maybe Zachsaints too).

I am the town doctor. There is only one, and it is not him. Who I protected by night:

Night 1 - Job
Night 2 - IBC
Night 3 - IBC
Night 4 - IBC
Night 5 - FlyingElvis
Night 6 - Didn't use my ability

In case any of you were wondering how Job and IBC stayed alive so long, it was me. Let's lynch UKfan now.

Boomshakalaka mo'fucka. See ya later UK.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 11:51 AM
Well isn't this a clusterfuck...

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 11:52 AM
Alright since UKfan won't come out and say it, he is lying. I wouldn't come out and say this if I didn't think he would kill me tonight. I also believe he might be the final piece to the puzzle (maybe Zachsaints too).

I am the town doctor. There is only one, and it is not him. Who I protected by night:

Night 1 - Job
Night 2 - IBC
Night 3 - IBC
Night 4 - IBC
Night 5 - FlyingElvis
Night 6 - Didn't use my ability

I know this is going to sound crazy but... I KNEW IT! When I made that post about you being a SK it was that or Doctor/Protector. I was just not dumb enough to say it in case you were in fact a protector.

So I apologize for throwing you under the bus. I was wrong about you being an SK and thank you.

Vote: UK

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Should have killed me day three when you had the chance UK. I've suspected him of being evil for some time now. Once UK is dead the game should end. If it doesn't, we'll kill Zachsaints tomorrow and end it once and for all.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 11:55 AM
Should be simple now...
unvote:zachsaints
vote: UKfan

UKfan
03-01-2012, 11:59 AM
I don't have the power of killing people. I promise you guys 100% that.

My doctor visits:
Night 1 and 2, Job
Night 3 - Brodeur (I presume I was roleblocked here)
Night 4 - ZachSaints
Night 5 - ncst8
Night 6 - fenikz

I really don't mind if you don't believe me or not at this point, I've said my piece at this point, you can blame Bulldogs when you are wrong...

Also a final point, the most deaths happened on night 3, you don't think all the possible killers out there did their bidding that night? I promise you that I did not make any attempt on your life Bulldogs and never have. Not sure where your info has come from on that.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 12:01 PM
Unfortuntely now BD you probably won't make it through the night, unless you have someone protecting you or blocking the mafia, which I would think you do if there is a protector. Thanks for helping us reach the right guy (assuming you are right, lol) I'll be sure to take out the mafia for you if indeed you are not here in the morning, I've got a few tricks up my sleeve :).

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:01 PM
I don't have the power of killing people. I promise you guys 100% that.

My doctor visits:
Night 1 and 2, Job
Night 3 - Brodeur (I presume I was roleblocked here)
Night 4 - ZachSaints
Night 5 - ncst8
Night 6 - fenikz

I really don't mind if you don't believe me or not at this point, I've said my piece at this point, you can blame Bulldogs when you are wrong...

Also a final point, the most deaths happened on night 3, you don't think all the possible killers out there did their bidding that night? I promise you that I did not make any attempt on your life Bulldogs and never have. Not sure where your info has come from on that.

You sure "protect" some strange people. Come on guys, I just blew this theory out of the water. Let's finish this day and move on.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:04 PM
Unfortuntely now BD you probably won't make it through the night, unless you have someone protecting you or blocking the mafia, which I would think you do if there is a protector. Thanks for helping us reach the right guy (assuming you are right, lol) I'll be sure to take out the mafia for you if indeed you are not here in the morning, I've got a few tricks up my sleeve :).

There a still a couple other people they would have to worry about. If they kill me, somebody catches them. Simple as that. I don't actually have the ability to catch a killer, like some other posters here do. Regardless, I'm fairly certain UK is the last guy. The only other people I'm suspicious of are Goosemahn, Zachsaints, and Fenikz (kinda). Maybe Ncst8 but I think JJB might have cleared that one.

UKfan
03-01-2012, 12:04 PM
That is the reason that I did not want to reveal who I protected, as I knew you and others would not agree with all of the people. Not everyone 100% agrees with your thoughts on things you know?

If I was lying, why wouldn't I just put down all confirmed good people?

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:05 PM
I can confirm that I felt a presence, much like a guardian angel, on night 5.

I got the feeling BD was a protector. When ZS was accusing him everything he quoted to support his claim seemed to point away from the point ZS was trying to make and towards BD being a protector. I was momentarily thrown off yesterday when JJB was saying others would die if we lynched him but I figured he probably meant that killing him left a mafia out there.


Vote: UKFan

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:07 PM
That is the reason that I did not want to reveal who I protected, as I knew you and others would not agree with all of the people. Not everyone 100% agrees with your thoughts on things you know?

If I was lying, why wouldn't I just put down all confirmed good people?

Just admit I caught you in a lie, it's funnier that way. Any other mafia members we should be looking for? You should make a death speech like Ngata and CCB before the final vote comes in.

UKfan
03-01-2012, 12:08 PM
Why admit to a lie when I haven't made one?

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:11 PM
8 votes needed to lynch

UKfan: IBC, Bulldogs, Woot, CJSchneider, FlyingElvis, EATW
Zachsaints: zachsaints

Raiderz4Life
03-01-2012, 12:12 PM
BD ftmfw!!!

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:13 PM
Can any of those last 3 on UK's list confirm that they had some notion they were being protected? I don't know if that happens each time or not, but it did for me on night 5, so I'll assume others would get similar info from Caddy.

I, too, think NCSt8 is good since JJB didn't die when hiding at his house. Though that does not make him 100% clear, as the info I've found on the hider role states only that the hider may die if hiding in a mafia or SK home.

I still think the least suspicious is the smartest play, and Goose tops my list with Fenikz and Zach below him. Zach truly seems more Clousseau than mastermind mafioso.

ncst8fan83
03-01-2012, 12:14 PM
Just got to work guys...trying to catch up on the days activities...i'll post my thoughts shortly if UKFan isn't lynched prior.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:15 PM
8 votes needed to lynch

UKfan: IBC, Bulldogs, Woot, CJSchneider, FlyingElvis, EATW
Zachsaints: zachsaints

Raiderz voted UK, too. One more does it. Que Goosemahn in 3 . . . 2 . . .

UKfan
03-01-2012, 12:15 PM
Ugh I really wish I could continue this, but alas I have to go out and I will not be able to continue to attempted to defend myself. Bulldogs caught my last gasp attempt to save myself as I was done either way, the one thing I will say to those remaining townies, is you are no way out of the woods yet and are underestimating the numbers in the Mafia, and I would also like to advise you that some of those leading the hunt are piggybacking on the work of the other genuine good people, and are not as they seem.

My hat off to you BD.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:17 PM
Which is to say we should not blindly ignore that IBC was found bad on two occasions by ZS. Don't forget that, my good townsfolk.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:18 PM
One more vote seals it. He has confirmed so it shouldn't take too long.

UKfan
03-01-2012, 12:18 PM
Vote: UKFan

That should do it folks :) fun game

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:20 PM
Alright no more talking. We need a mod to lock this thread.

eaglesalltheway
03-01-2012, 12:20 PM
Lock this ***** up! As well as all the mafia members. You can't catch us now, you fools! I'm coming to get you guys, just know that!

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:20 PM
Also, in the interest of giving Caddy time to respond to my PM, I would like to

Unvote: UKFan


If I die overnight because we hit the majority, I'll never know if Woot is full of bull. He posted that I was active last night but Caddy did not send me any results. However, Caddy has overlooked me several times already, so it's possible it's an oversight. If not, however, Woot would be caught in yet another lie. I still say he can't be trusted. He's lied like crazy and knows bad guys too well (CCB & Ngata) for a simple lyncher with no other role. Lyncher/Traitor, perhaps?

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:21 PM
Seriously . . . can we stop voting ourselves to the gallows, people?

UKfan
03-01-2012, 12:24 PM
Alright, keep your vote registered FE so that you don't get missed out in the future, and I will unvote myself as silly as it seems now.

Unvote: UKFan

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:26 PM
Alright, keep your vote registered FE so that you don't get missed out in the future, and I will unvote myself as silly as it seems now.

Unvote: UKFan

I was unvoting b/c I want to give Caddy a chance to respond to my PM. Otherwise I run the risk of dieing without having a chance to contribute info.

But thanks, it seems wrong for people to vote for themselves. EMO, in Zach's case. lol

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 12:31 PM
Caddy won't respond until 430-5ish.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:33 PM
Caddy won't respond until 430-5ish.

I know.

He also won't lock the thread until then, but I want to have the chance to nail Woot in yet another lie or find out if there's info that should have been sent to me but was not.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:33 PM
yu_RRBh_EKU

TheBoyWonder22
03-01-2012, 12:36 PM
Wow just caught up with this. My theory was that IBC was himself the doctor and he was protecting himself, but now that I know the real story, I apologize for accusing BD the other day. I would vote, but I want FE to get his pm. Although, couldn't you just get it and reveal it tomorrow, having BD protect you through the night?
Let me officially...
Unvote zachsaints

Raiderz4Life
03-01-2012, 12:39 PM
Wow just caught up with this. My theory was that IBC was himself the doctor and he was protecting himself, but now that I know the real story, I apologize for accusing BD the other day. I would vote, but I want FE to get his pm. Although, couldn't you just get it and reveal it tomorrow, having BD protect you through the night?
Let me officially...
Unvote zachsaints

Well assuming there is still 1 or 2 baddies left...one or both of em may not make it

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:40 PM
Wow just caught up with this. My theory was that IBC was himself the doctor and he was protecting himself, but now that I know the real story, I apologize for accusing BD the other day. I would vote, but I want FE to get his pm. Although, couldn't you just get it and reveal it tomorrow, having BD protect you through the night?
Let me officially...
Unvote zachsaints

There's always a chance we both die. Essentially, as soon as Caddy responds I can post any info (or lack of, which would indicate Woot lied) and then vote, lynch UK, and move on to the night phase.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:41 PM
Well assuming there is still 1 or 2 baddies left...one or both of em may not make it

Exactly. It's not like it makes any difference, since we have to wait on Caddy for the lock, lynch and night phase anyway.

Bulldogs
03-01-2012, 12:43 PM
Meh, if somebody kills me during the night at this point they are wasting a kill. It would have been effective three nights ago, now, not so much. We still have like 3-4 people that can gather valuable info, if they kill me the chances there is info on them increases a crap load.

FlyingElvis
03-01-2012, 12:47 PM
So we don't lose sight of this:

Bulldogs I'm fairly certain you discovered my deductive powers ;)

Peoples with night roles that I know of : Fenikz, Mcgee, FE (was talking to somebody last night) and UK, Bulldogs (I know you are something probably good since you are with me)

Fenikz and SuperMcGee . . . what exactly have they brought to the table thus far? Out at night, away by day and never any contributions that have helped the town? Interesting . . .

Which is why it's important to confirm Wooty is telling the truth.

ImBrotherCain
03-01-2012, 12:49 PM
Yeah we need to get a jump on tomorrow proceedings. So lets start deliberating while we have people that might not be here tomorrow.

TheBoyWonder22
03-01-2012, 12:50 PM
Everybody use your ability tonight. It puts more pressure on the mafia and that causes them to slip up. Either that or nobody do anything but investigate, but that could be counter productive.

Shane P. Hallam
03-01-2012, 12:52 PM
I'm gonna lock it up until Caddy comes back, you guys hit the votes, can't be undone, he can deal with everything then.

Caddy
03-01-2012, 03:23 PM
What Jbond said. Once you hang someone you can't magically bring them back to life.

Caddy
03-01-2012, 03:30 PM
Days were certainly speeding up around here, and it did not take long at all to come to a consensus concerning UKFan. The townspeople just were not comfortable at all with his story, and by lynching him were hoping to find out if their queries were founded in truth.

UKFan (Framer) has been Lynched.

Players have until 6pm EST tomorrow to send in their night actions. If you get them in early, I open the thread early!

Caddy
03-01-2012, 03:34 PM
People are PMing me saying the vote count was off. I assume you think he needed 9 votes, in fact he only needed 8.

Also while I'm at it, don't try and manipulate the voting system by unvoting just to wait for comment from me. If I don't contact you, you aren't getting any messages.

Caddy
03-01-2012, 04:08 PM
If you are going to keep a vote count, don't **** it up...

Caddy
03-02-2012, 03:29 PM
Another night had passed, one could only feel that the mafia problem was going away. Unfortunately the murders had not yet stopped, as Flying Elvis was found lying in a pool of his own blood in a back alley behind a bowling alley. The poor hobo had been shot to death.

Flying Elvis (Hobo) Has been murdered.

With 12 people alive, 7 votes are needed to reach a majority.

Also if I should have contacted you during the night phase but didn't, please let me know asap.

fenikz
03-02-2012, 03:31 PM
******* person accusing me the whole game was a hobo?

zachsaints52
03-02-2012, 03:34 PM
Hmm... that whole I am a framer thing doesn't look too well now does it?

Day 1: Shane- Nothing
Day 2: EATW- Good
Day 3: JVig- Good
Day 4- IBC- Bad
Day 5: TBW- Good
Day 6: JJB- Evil
Day 7: IBC- Evil
Day 8: NCST8- Evil

Just to let you know my investigations again. Since there isn't a framer, is there something else that would stop me from getting the true results?

fenikz
03-02-2012, 03:35 PM
Maybe someone could directly influence you instead of the person

But I've believed NCST was evil the whole time

zachsaints52
03-02-2012, 03:36 PM
Maybe someone could directly influence you instead of the person

But I've believed NCST was evil the whole time

Hence the reason I asked about the framer role, which I never got answered. Does the framer pick someone to reverse his answer, or he picks someone and if that person gets investigated his role is reversed?

Either way, theres no framer now.

fenikz
03-02-2012, 03:38 PM
I think they pick a person and if he is investigated the role is reversed