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zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:01 AM
You do realize my argument hinges on both of you being good (perhaps neutral for him), but that he was framed. Keep in mind we have not yet killed a framer.

Yeah, because a framer wouldpick the one guy everyone believes is telling the truth, rather the Raiderz who everyone thought was evil but now is proven good... Sound logic.

Bulldogs
02-26-2012, 12:02 AM
Yeah, because a framer wouldpick the one guy everyone believes is telling the truth, rather the Raiderz who everyone thought was evil but now is proven good... Sound logic.

Maybe they thought they would catch somebody like you off guard (they did). There has been several people questioning his IBC's motives (you, JoeJoe, EATW) so it's not that out of the question.

Mr. Goosemahn
02-26-2012, 12:02 AM
If Caddy doesn't messaged me, or someone tell me not to by 1:15 I will post the message and get mod-killed.

Just remember, I get killed and then another gets killed, without a lynch. Then you get IBC but then it's really pointless/sad you had to have me mod-killed to believe me, when I had the most evidence.

If you die, I believe we still get to lynch someone.

Personally, I just want to make sense as to why IBC would help us kill 3 Mafia members, a godfather included, if he was one of them. Threatening us with suicide isn't much of a threat, especially since you already said you're a townie. Do whatever you want to do, but it's stupid.

You killing yourself to show us a PM doesn't really tell us if your investigation is right or wrong. It just tells us what you know. So again, do whatever you want.

I personally want to believe you, but it would have been much easier if you had told us that a guy that hasn't really done anything (like me) was Mafia, as opposed to IBC. Let people think about it, you're trying to force it down everybody's throat, and that just looks suspicious. If I were you, I'd trust my evidence and let it speak for itself.

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:04 AM
Maybe they thought they would catch somebody like you off guard.

That's sound logic. If I can frame one person, it wouldn't be the guy who everyone wants to lynch, but the one guy everyone believes. Justtttt by a small chance he gets investigated.

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:04 AM
lmao . . .

why can't you see the argument is not that you are lying, but that the info you received may be wrong? why can't you see that, even if he is bad, cain is valuable right now?

Mr. Goosemahn
02-26-2012, 12:04 AM
Yeah, because a framer wouldpick the one guy everyone believes is telling the truth, rather the Raiderz who everyone thought was evil but now is proven good... Sound logic.

Well, you did investigate IBC instead of raiderz, so...

Bulldogs
02-26-2012, 12:05 AM
If you die, I believe we still get to lynch someone.

Personally, I just want to make sense as to why IBC would help us kill 3 Mafia members, a godfather included, if he was one of them. Threatening us with suicide isn't much of a threat, especially since you already said you're a townie. Do whatever you want to do, but it's stupid.

You killing yourself to show us a PM doesn't really tell us if your investigation is right or wrong. It just tells us what you know. So again, do whatever you want.

I personally want to believe you, but it would have been much easier if you had told us that a guy that hasn't really done anything (like me) was Mafia, as opposed to IBC. Let people think about it, you're trying to force it down everybody's throat, and that just looks suspicious. If I were you, I'd trust my evidence and let it speak for itself.

THANK YOU! Where have you been all this game to help us Goosemahn. Maybe you've been the one protecting IBC at night all along. ;)

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:05 AM
Something about me trusts you Goosemahn. Let's get someone who is actually bad here. I feel like if you were actually mafia you would have just jumped on the lynch IBC bandwagon.

Unvote: Mr. Goosemahn

unless, of course, goose knows IBC is mafia.

Mr. Goosemahn
02-26-2012, 12:06 AM
All right,mIm going out. Be back in about three hours.

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:06 AM
If you die, I believe we still get to lynch someone.

Personally, I just want to make sense as to why IBC would help us kill 3 Mafia members, a godfather included, if he was one of them. Threatening us with suicide isn't much of a threat, especially since you already said you're a townie. Do whatever you want to do, but it's stupid.

You killing yourself to show us a PM doesn't really tell us if your investigation is right or wrong. It just tells us what you know. So again, do whatever you want.

I personally want to believe you, but it would have been much easier if you had told us that a guy that hasn't really done anything (like me) was Mafia, as opposed to IBC. Let people think about it, you're trying to force it down everybody's throat, and that just looks suspicious. If I were you, I'd trust my evidence and let it speak for itself.

So your willing to let the most evidence just go away because it's one guy everyone trusts.

I'm forcing it bc I finally get to help out, give y'all everything, then your just letting it go away.

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:08 AM
Ok, on the most important point tonight - is there a sig bet and what are the exact details?

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:09 AM
Well, you did investigate IBC instead of raiderz, so...

Because I explained my theory about the mafia, and I went with it.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 12:11 AM
This is going to end like The Departed with everyone shot in the head, isn't it?

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:11 AM
Ok, on the most important point tonight - is there a sig bet and what are the exact details?

He agreed to the one about us lynching him, so yes. Lynch him, see that I'm right, and then he loses the bet.

Btw, it took him awhile to agree to it FYI. If he was 100%, he woulda agreed to it in a instant.

Job Reborn
02-26-2012, 12:12 AM
Hi. Coming back from the dead just to say that the rule about not revealing PMs from the mod unless you want to get mod-killed is not made to give you a choice between sacrificing yourself to reveal info or not. The rule is there because it's against the basics and all the principles of the game. It would definitely be bad form. I'm pretty sure Caddy would not like to have that situation as a mod. Anyway, back to being dead.

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:16 AM
Hi. Coming back from the dead just to say that the rule about not revealing PMs from the mod unless you want to get mod-killed is not made to give you a choice between sacrificing yourself to reveal info or not. The rule is there because it's against the basics and all the principles of the game. It would definitely be bad form. I'm pretty sure Caddy would not like to have that situation as a mod. Anyway, back to being dead.

Thanks Job... I'm just fog crazy with this game, literally. Lost sleep, trying to keep who I was a secret, using computers in the study lounge that just got done watching porn (don't ask, it creeps me out what goes on at night here), and I finally get evidence and it's no-good? Just going crazy my friend.

SuperMcGee
02-26-2012, 12:17 AM
That's sound logic. If I can frame one person, it wouldn't be the guy who everyone wants to lynch, but the one guy everyone believes. Justtttt by a small chance he gets investigated.

Yes? If IBC has been protected, what other option do they have for trying to get rid of him? Of course you want to turn the crowd against people they don't suspect.

Hell, what was the one thing that saved raiderz from being lynched yesterday? Testimony from IBC. Turn perception against him and that may as well be negated - potentially two birds with one stone. Although now that I say this out loud, I can't imagine a way in which both would die, but it could have caused at least some added doubt throughout this day.

Plus what Goosemahn said.

And x5 on what Job Reborn Reborn said. Don't bring outside incentive and intentional modkills into this.

fenikz
02-26-2012, 12:19 AM
Someone care to point me towards the posts for why people are voting for IBC

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:22 AM
Yes? If IBC has been protected, what other option do they have for trying to get rid of him? Of course you want to turn the crowd against people they don't suspect.

Hell, what was the one thing that saved raiderz from being lynched yesterday? Testimony from IBC. Turn perception against him and that may as well be negated - potentially two birds with one stone. Although now that I say this out loud, I can't imagine a way in which both would die, so nevermind.

Plus what Goosemahn said.

And x5 on what Job Reborn Reborn said. Don't bring outside incentive and intentional modkills into this.

Great point about the possible protection. Plus, why frame Raiderz (even with all the suspicion) when he hasn't contributed a damn thing compared to IBC going 3 in a row.

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 12:26 AM
It's easy to see not one person is going to actually agree to this....

I'm done arguing my side. I gave it my all. Just please vote me or him.

I'll find out in the morning.

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 12:31 AM
Glad to see this is going well...

Just have to reiterate I am in no way shape or form evil or even neutral.

I do not have any information to give so some would be greatly appreciated

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:45 AM
I think an assessment of ATL's posts are in order now that we know his role.


I'm going to sleep on it all . . .

Raiderz4Life
02-26-2012, 12:54 AM
i havent been on all day since ive been busy today. But i can indeed confirm that raiderz is a priest. Last night i found robes. He is of no harm.

gtdamn it vikes those were my good robes!!

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 01:01 AM
gtdamn it vikes those were my good robes!!

Like a choirboy is really going to care what your wearing when you take his arsehole.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 01:04 AM
On a more serious note, what are the winning conditions of a framer?

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 01:16 AM
On a more serious note, what are the winning conditions of a framer?

Probably same as Mafia... Kill the town and neutrals.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 01:19 AM
This stalemate right here is what this game is about. What has happened before this.. and what will happen after this will pale in comparison.

Bulldogs
02-26-2012, 01:24 AM
I think one thing we need to do is come to an agreement on who vikes steals from tonight. As for today, I'm suspicious of Ukfan, Ncst8, a little bit ngatachance.

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 01:25 AM
i havent been on all day since ive been busy today. But i can indeed confirm that raiderz is a priest. Last night i found robes. He is of no harm.

I think this right here should raise some more questions about Zach.... He claims Divine prophecy told him things but I still doubt that there are two priests/ prophets.

Not to mention doesn't the 5 investigations sound familiar... Like what Woot had.

eaglesalltheway
02-26-2012, 01:41 AM
Well,i missed a lot. Zach, I think you mean well, but I think it may be possible you were framed when investigating IBC, though everything you are saying makes sense. I'm gonna need time to think this through and go over what I missed more to get to a decision.

fenikz
02-26-2012, 01:48 AM
After reading stuff seems people are going solely off of Zach's ability instead of the actions of IBC

I don't think either is neccisarily evil, most likely IBC was framed/zach had his power altered

Now I need to go back and read people's interactions with the departed

SuperMcGee
02-26-2012, 01:51 AM
I think this right here should raise some more questions about Zach.... He claims Divine prophecy told him things but I still doubt that there are two priests/ prophets.

Not to mention doesn't the 5 investigations sound familiar... Like what Woot had.

I think that was his way of referring to Caddy as "God", and the info he received being a divine prophecy.

Caddy
02-26-2012, 02:00 AM
Everyone be an adult. If you can't handle the discussion, take a break for a few hours. I don't want people posting direct messages from me, but if they choose to do so, I will not hesitate to mod-kill them and end the day immediately. This game has been amazing so far, lets keep that rolling!

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 02:07 AM
Um.... I might just be really really drunk.... But did that burning bush just talk?

JoeJoeBrown
02-26-2012, 02:56 AM
This is exactly what I wanted to read after a night at the bars. Fantastic.

Zach is going balls out. IBC is going balls out. WTF is going on?
I am still voting for IBC but I was way wrong about atl. It will be devastating to the town if IBC is a good hunter.

Also, it goes without saying, but I suck at this game. So damn confusing and I don't have the time to sort though the possibilities.

I am concerned that Zach was blocked or ibc was framed.

If IBC is bad, no matter if he wins, he losses the sig bet.

I am stalling for more info.

Unvote IBC

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:04 AM
I don't have time to read all of this now, but I'm going to pull my vote back since IBC took his vote back.

unvote: IBC

Now we're back at square one... tomorrow is a new day.....sleep escapes me.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 03:11 AM
It feels like an old Spaghetti Western, like the whole town has their pistols out pointed at whoevers closest. I'm not sure who to trust any more... This game has made me even more distrustful of humans in the real world.

UKfan
02-26-2012, 03:14 AM
Man you go to sleep for one night and ish turns bat **** crazy. I literally have no clue what to do. I don't think IBC is evil, but then I don't think Zach is either. From the whole Woot fiasco (apologies Woot am coming round to seeing I was off base there), am being more studious in reading all the posts.

Caddy
02-26-2012, 05:21 AM
Everyone is now banned from using a bolded font. It just complicates the tallying process.

Vote Tally

Goose 1: Wooty
Cain 2: Zach, CJ

Jvig43
02-26-2012, 08:13 AM
CCB is someone i may vote for. Hes bad. I think theyre trying to get us to lynch ibc due to the favt that someone at night is protecting him. Vote ccb i urge you

CJSchneider
02-26-2012, 08:47 AM
OK, so I went to bed at 11, wake up to read (skim read) the last few pages only to see we have arrived here. I am about to head to church and will read up again when I return. It seems as if we are at a stale-mate and some action is needed to turn the tide in some direction.

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 09:02 AM
CCB is someone i may vote for. Hes bad. I think theyre trying to get us to lynch ibc due to the favt that someone at night is protecting him. Vote ccb i urge you

I have to say I have been weary of him as well... You were also right with the Diab thing and the Job thing.

Last post for me this weekend. Diab needs to be looked at more closely. Trust me

Job is neutral and has no concern over who wins this. For right now we should leave him alone until his actions prove otherwise. We should start focusing on other people.

Honestly this is the best thing we have to go on at this moment.

Vote: Lynch CCB

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 09:53 AM
CCB is someone i may vote for. Hes bad. I think theyre trying to get us to lynch ibc due to the favt that someone at night is protecting him. Vote ccb i urge you

You may vote for? Why is it 'may' when you say he's bad?

With that said, I definitely agree that framing IBC would be the only play since we've been calling for his protection from the start.

Jvig has been solid so far, so I'm rolling with him. Plus we get the extra night to allow IBC to use the invention and see what comes of it while also using whatever ability he has that uncovered the 3 mobsters.

On a rules/game note, I have two questions:
1 - If a framer exists and targeted IBC, would the frame last indefinitely?
2 - Can players lie about the info given by Caddy? For example, if we have IBC use the glasses on CJ and the results are clean (Broduer already cleared him) could IBC lie aobut it?

Vote: CharmCity

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 10:10 AM
On a rules/game note, I have two questions:
1 - If a framer exists and targeted IBC, would the frame last indefinitely?
2 - Can players lie about the info given by Caddy? For example, if we have IBC use the glasses on CJ and the results are clean (Broduer already cleared him) could IBC lie aobut it?


In response the framing has to be done every night to have it last... So they would need to frame me again tonight for me to come up bad.

As for lying yes... You can make up whatever you want at anytime. As long as you don't quote Caddy you can literally say anything.
For a real game example, I said on night two I followed Bhaarat when I actually followed Vidae.

zachsaints52
02-26-2012, 10:44 AM
Just vote for me. I seriously dont see how you guys think this stuff through your head.

I gave you guys a scenario where a mafia player is one of the guys we "trust", and I only argued about it with ONE person. Job. So by your guys thought process, wouldnt I have actually investigated Job then? Wouldn't someone have framed Job instead? And if everyone knew Jobs role, why did the mafia kill him?


My guess is that Wooty is a neutral character... all he had to do was lynch Deep and survive to win.

I am pretty sure he is just bullshitting and anything that comes out of his mouth should be ignored entirely. I don't think he poses much of a threat at this point.

But yet when I had you down as evil, you all of a sudden had a invention.

See that's the thing I have had suspicions but really the only person I felt strong enough to attempt to convict was Jensen.

I just thought I was going to be a target for leading the lynching of one of their own and semi revealing my role.

Semi-revealing? You say you followed someone, how much more of a role can you have?

This game is full of lies... God damn. I lied about following Bhaarat to throw Vidae off the trail. Other people lied about being good.

Who cares that he lied about stupid ****. I am 75% sure that he is nothing more than a Lyncher and is just trying to stay alive.

Why would you need to through the GF off the trail?

Very but in all honesty I was getting bored yesterday at work and decided to go on the offensive.

I am pretty sure that if Vidae is Mafia and we lynch him i am going to die tonight or at least someone will try to kill me.

Hopefully there is still a doctor.

I am going to die tonight

I am pretty sure that I am enemy #1 after this.

Ehh Screw it. Vote ATL

I am pretty sure that all the protectors are dead anyhow. So I am gone tonight.

Your enemy #1, yet you still live. I find it strange that we have every single person here (doctor, framer, investigator) who can do a night action use it on you, every night.

And you actually only gave us one person. Each person was suspected by one of the prominent members of the town before you (Shane for Jensen, Job for Vidae) so to say you gave us three doesnt mean much when others said it first.

Like I said, either kill me or him. Its that simple. I gave you the most evidence, but yet because he has helped the town you believe him to be the best. It makes no sense that there isnt a different strategy to things. If you do the same things over and over, it would be easier to guess who was evil, right?

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 11:07 AM
DUDE I AM FREAKING TELLING YOU I AM NOT EVIL!

You trying to find posts telling the opposite isn't happening.

Why don't you just get it through you're head I am not bad... I am not neutral. I am a Townie!

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 11:12 AM
IBC, I just figured you out. Yeah I dont think he's evil at all. We do however need to found out who is.

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 11:27 AM
IBC, I just figured you out. Yeah I dont think he's evil at all. We do however need to found out who is.

Figured me out? I am exactly what I have said I am since day 2.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 11:30 AM
Stop ******* with my mind

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 11:30 AM
Figured me out? I am exactly what I have said I am since day 2.
Yes I know. I meant more of your thought process.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 11:34 AM
CCB have powers I don't know what kind though

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 11:43 AM
I still believe ncst to be bad

Bulldogs
02-26-2012, 11:57 AM
So right now the best info we have is probably Jvig saying CCB is bad. I don't think he's mafia, but I think that may be our serial killer.

Vote: CCB

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:25 PM
Just vote for me. I seriously dont see how you guys think this stuff through your head.

It's probably because you seem to miss every nuance of the game at this point, despite being believable in your role. Why the **** would we want to vote for you and lynch someone good, even if you're information on IBC is correct? The same goes for your insistance about woot, your conspiracy theory including Job, and now your refusal to see clear and insightful reasoning behind keeping IBC for at least another night. Top that off with your own information clearing Jvig - which should have you willing to at least lynch CCB if the town won't jump immediately on board w/lynching IBC - and you should understand why a few of us are hesitant.

Seriously, don't make me post the 'go cry emo kid' lolcat.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 12:34 PM
Is everyone on the CCB bandwagon now ?

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 12:37 PM
Is everyone on the CCB bandwagon now ?

I don't see any reason to doubt Zach at this point (aside from my concern that IBC was framed) and Zach cleared Jvig, who has been solid so far with his beliefs about bad guys.

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 12:44 PM
I still think IBC is good, CCB hasn't made a very solid case for himself. Zach seems reliable, but for now I think IBC should be kept around. I want to side with him, but if CCB turns out to be a valuable good guy, we should be all over IBC just so we don't become too dependent upon his insights.
Vote: CCB

CJSchneider
02-26-2012, 12:48 PM
OK, back home. I did some thinking. IBC, what object did you say you received?

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 12:50 PM
OK, back home. I did some thinking. IBC, what object did you say you received?

They are a pair of glasses.

Bulldogs
02-26-2012, 12:50 PM
Can we come to a conclusion on who vikes steals from tonight? He's said himself he's willing to steal from whoever the group wants.

edit: just realized if we do this, the person will probably just get framed. just do it to someone suspicious vikes.

CJSchneider
02-26-2012, 12:52 PM
They are a pair of glasses.

I say wear them. If they work, they will probably show you something. If they back fire, I presume we will be shown something about you. Either way, if you are good, as you say, you have nothing to lose.

ImBrotherCain
02-26-2012, 12:54 PM
I say wear them. If they work, they will probably show you something. If they back fire, I presume we will be shown something about you. Either way, if you are good, as you say, you have nothing to lose.

I planned on it... At this point there is little to lose.

Raiderz4Life
02-26-2012, 12:56 PM
I'll roll with jvig

voye: ccb

now back to sleep for me

FlyingElvis
02-26-2012, 01:19 PM
I agree that we have an opportunity to get more info from vikes and IBC with his glasses +/- hunting ability. IBC status as mafia vs. framed hunter can wait a day now that jvig has a target for us.

fenikz
02-26-2012, 01:22 PM
there was a post by ccB earlier that was way too nonchalant, I'll quote it in a sec. But i 100% believe he is evil

Vote: CCB

ccB
02-26-2012, 01:24 PM
just woke up........


What exactly have I done to be lynched?

CCB is someone i may vote for. Hes bad. I think theyre trying to get us to lynch ibc due to the favt that someone at night is protecting him. Vote ccb i urge you

This sounds like it has nothing to do with you knowing anything and everything to do with me bringing your name up twice...

You guys are taking a shot in the dark but it's the wrong shot. Let's review my gameplay...

1. Voted for Deep (majority of the town did I was wrong)
2. Missed the Jensen vote because of real life problems (my dad is currently going through liver failure)
3. Voted against Vidae
4. voted to KEEP ATL when we had no info against him
5. The only people I've openly spoke out against was JVIG (besides trying to sort out the ZS/IBC **** last night) and that was just because I felt like he lobbyed way too hard for Vidae, funny he'd be the one trying to put my head on the chopping block, with no info.

Also when the **** did I try to lynch IBC? I've said openly I was following his gameplay, and only voted for him this round because he voted for himself so I figured that's what he wanted, when he pulled his vote back, I pulled mine back.

ccB
02-26-2012, 01:35 PM
CCB have powers I don't know what kind though

Stop making stuff up, if I'm going to be lynched make it pure not slanderous.

there was a post by ccB earlier that was way too nonchalant, I'll quote it in a sec. But i 100% believe he is evil

Vote: CCB

funny because I can say the same about a lot of the posts you've made this game. When exactly have you contributed positively in anyway? My gameplay has been all put out in the open, I have nothing to hide. You on the other hand haven't done **** except post little sarcastic remarks and duck out whenever an important vote is happening.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 01:53 PM
I know you have powers CCB. I'm not accusing you of anything.

ccB
02-26-2012, 01:57 PM
I know you have powers CCB. I'm not accusing you of anything.

The power of deductive reasoning, and boyish good looks. Did your magic ice machine tell you this?

My gameplay speaks for itself, if you guys are going to lynch me based on the word of the only guy I ever targeted (and eventually backed off of) then go head and be fools this is ATL all over again.

UKfan
02-26-2012, 02:03 PM
Woot how do you know CCB has a power? (Not being accusatory, just curious as I thought you being able to investigate turned out not to be true)

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:07 PM
Some detective work outside of this thread!

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 02:07 PM
The power of deductive reasoning, and boyish good looks. Did your magic ice machine tell you this?

My gameplay speaks for itself, if you guys are going to lynch me based on the word of the only guy I ever targeted (and eventually backed off of) then go head and be fools this is ATL all over again.
But would losing you be as bad as losing ATL?

Bulldogs
02-26-2012, 02:08 PM
If CCB were more forthcoming with his ability I might be willing to hold back my lynch. I don't believe you're a vanilla townie, considering a couple have already been killed and I'm one myself. If you're not evil CCB, what is your ability and what have you done thus far?

ccB
02-26-2012, 02:15 PM
But would losing you be as bad as losing ATL?
In the sense that I have no power and he did...no it wouldn't be as bad. In the sense that ATL didn't really bring us any info, and I've been far more active in lynching the baddies, than yes it would be as bad.

If CCB were more forthcoming with his ability I might be willing to hold back my lynch. I don't believe you're a vanilla townie, considering a couple have already been killed and I'm one myself. If you're not evil CCB, what is your ability and what have you done thus far?

My role is vanilla townie, I have no powers, so Woot is either full of it, or terribly misinformed.

Some detective work outside of this thread!

I had to come forward with my role, come forward with what you found and how you found it.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:24 PM
During some nights you were in contact with someone. How I've found out now is my secret. I've not been honest at the beginning of the game (grudge against deep) but now I am.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:25 PM
Just for the discussion I've also found out that Ngata/Ncst did the same by entering in contact with someone at night

ccB
02-26-2012, 02:27 PM
During some nights you were in contact with someone. How I've found out now is my secret. I've not been honest at the beginning of the game (grudge against deep) but now I am.

This is 100% false. Everything I've done in this game has been upfront and honest, either I'm being framed or Woot is/has been full of **** this whole game.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 02:32 PM
Wtf? How did I get drug into this ****? Utter lies, I think I've discovered woots role, hes the Village idiot. He's been making **** up all game acting like the Jack of all trades.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:33 PM
I've not accused anyone of anything by the way just saying. Just saw you guys entering in contact with someone at nights nothing more

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 02:35 PM
If you must know I have a coke problem, I've been meeting with my dealer there you happy?

ccB
02-26-2012, 02:43 PM
Wtf? How did I get drug into this ****? Utter lies, I think I've discovered woots role, hes the Village idiot. He's been making **** up all game acting like the Jack of all trades.

It really does seem like hes throwing random **** against the wall to see if it sticks, he has went from accusing Deep, FE, TWB, NCST, Me, Ngata + More, then pulls out a (pretend? Misinformed?) power that he hasn't helped anyone with up until this point. Too much erratic behavior, I don't think he has anything on anyone, just trying to seem important enough to not be lynched.

The only way I could justify his actions is if I were framed, but I don't see why anyone would frame me of at this point
Vote: Woot

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:46 PM
I accused you ? Nope. I made my point that Ive seen you guys done something at night thats all.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:48 PM
Interesting. Voting for me and not for the other who actually voted for you ?

I made my point


Unvote : Goose
Vote : CCB

ccB
02-26-2012, 02:51 PM
Interesting. Voting for me and not for the other who actually voted for you ?

I made my point


Unvote : Goose
Vote : CCB


Because you are the one clearly lying, I do not have a power, no point has been made.

JVIG is gunnign for me most likely because I suspected him earlier in the game, and it wasn't until he voted for me that you presented "damming" evidence against me, very convenient.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 02:53 PM
Last time you used your "powers" an innocent hobo got lynched. Magic Ice Machine? Give me a break, must have been hard keeping silent the whole round to sell your little ruse. When you went after Deep you said we could lynch you if you were wrong, I'm taking you up on your offer.

Vote:Woot

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 02:55 PM
Well well well now the two of them are coming after me. Interesting eh

I've been the most vocal player in this game so why the hell would I use a ruse to be silent a whole round ? That's BS crap you two guys are mafia and now it's clear

ccB
02-26-2012, 02:58 PM
Well well well now the two of them are coming after me. Interesting eh

I've been the most vocal player in this game so why the hell would I use a ruse to be silent a whole round ? That's BS crap you two guys are mafia and now it's clear

You've been the most vocal person to never say anything worth substance.

You've never used your "power" to help us lynch at any point in the game. Even in rounds we didn't have anything to go on. SEE: ATL

Then all of a sudden you come out saying you got dirt on a group of people. A group of which that is completely different from the people you've been suspicious of the whole game.

You haven't made one move thats made any sense this entire game, you are clearly doing what it takes to make it day to day.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 02:59 PM
The only thing that's clear is that you're full of shot making up **** as you go along. What happened to your ability to investigate during the day huh?

Jvig43
02-26-2012, 03:00 PM
Because you are the one clearly lying, I do not have a power, no point has been made.

JVIG is gunnign for me most likely because I suspected him earlier in the game, and it wasn't until he voted for me that you presented "damming" evidence against me, very convenient.

It has nothing to do with you comong after me and everything to do woth the fact you arent good, youre bad. We lynch you and we get closer to being rid of the evil in this town.

Lynch: CCB

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:04 PM
It has nothing to do with you comong after me and everything to do woth the fact you arent good, youre bad. We lynch you and we get closer to being rid of the evil in this town.

Lynch: CCB

Fact? care to show me where your feeling became a fact?

I've played this game straightforward the whole time, if you check my posts its clear what side of the town I'm on.

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 03:04 PM
Woot accused me? What did he say?

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:06 PM
ZS has been gunning for Wooty since day one even after it has basically been proven that at the very worst he is Neutral. Speaking of Wooty, was your investigative powers just a ruse?

If you said yourself that at the very worst I'm neutral why are you voting for me ngata ? Might I say that I've found something against you sir ? Mafia much ?

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:07 PM
Woot accused me? What did he say?

I said that you visiting vidae was suspicious as hell but mcgee came forward and said you were good nothing more really

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:08 PM
Woot accused me? What did he say?
"
TBW, FE, Zach are my main guys "

"TBW was annoyed by the tone Job was using wasn't he ? interesting. "

"TBW is my other suspect. Why the hell he visited vidae ?! to tell him he's good ? no freakin way "

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:10 PM
I said that you visiting vidae was suspicious as hell but mcgee came forward and said you were good nothing more really

If you are an investigator why didn't you clear him yourself? or anyone else for that matter? Why sit on the power until you've already investigated a bunch of people when we needed info days ago? Because you're making stuff up.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 03:10 PM
I thought you were neutral, until you started making this **** up. What did you see me doing? Right now you have more powers than Superman, wear a tin foil hat much?

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:13 PM
It's clear as hell that you two guys are mafia now. Defending each other and trying to bring my credibility down. It has been said in other rounds that my ''abilites'' were fake and I was just holding a grudge against Deep. With that said I need to make the town safe to win this game. This is pretty straight forward eh.

Ngata and CCB are mafia guys. Now I'm accusing you guys.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:15 PM
Nice try guys you've played a good game but now it's over for you two.

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 03:15 PM
Im defending myself, and there you just said it. Your powers are fake so you didn't see me going anywhere.

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:16 PM
It's clear as hell that you two guys are mafia now. Defending each other and trying to bring my credibility down. It has been said in other rounds that my ''abilites'' were fake and I was just holding a grudge against Deep. With that said I need to make the town safe to win this game. This is pretty straight forward eh.

The only person I'm defending is myself, and the only thing clear to me is you're making up ****. Just because two people are targeting you doesn't mean they are in cohoots, it means your story has more holes in it than swiss cheese.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:17 PM
2 votes away from getting a mafia guy. Come on people

fenikz
02-26-2012, 03:19 PM
all 3 of you seem suspicious now

but if we lynch ccB it gives us some options, if he is innocent i think its time to hang woot as his info isn't helping and his alignment is suspect. If he is evil then Ngata seems like a good option

Jvig43
02-26-2012, 03:19 PM
Fact? care to show me where your feeling became a fact?

I've played this game straightforward the whole time, if you check my posts its clear what side of the town I'm on.

It will be fact when youre dead and next to your name will be "mafia". I made the same assertion against diab and look how that turned out. Why would people not believe me? All youve done is go with the crowd and anyone you have suggested killing on your own accounts have ben against good players.

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:19 PM
Nice try guys you've played a good game but now it's over for you two.

What else would you say to two people who are finally trying to lynch you for the BS games you are trying to play.

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:21 PM
Dare I say, wooty has been one of the more sensible players, despite his wild antics. He has sided with Job and IBC often and has done a lot to ensure his victory, which coincides with victory for good. I dont think his vote right now is suspicious.

I'm uneasy about the anti-IBC campaign. Seems tough to believe. What was your most recent tracking info, Cain?

Mcgee said my situation.

JoeJoeBrown
02-26-2012, 03:22 PM
Vote: Lynch CCB

Ngatachance92
02-26-2012, 03:23 PM
I can deal with being suspicious, my name will be cleared upon death. I didn't realize this town was Salem.

Caddy
02-26-2012, 03:24 PM
Cain 2: Zach, CJ
CCB 9: Cain, Elvis, Bulldogs, TBW, Raiderz, Fenikz, Wooty, Jvig, JJB
Wooty 2: CCB, Ngata

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:26 PM
Mcgee said my situation.

Um and what exactly have I done in this game that was any different than what McGee said about you? But no I'm bad and you're not.
So this is all based on the only guy I've targeted a few days ago making a stance against me, which gave woot the oppurtunity to throw out some BS power that he doesn't really have. Doing that inflates JVIGs ego, now that he has a follower, and confirms suspicion against me, for anybody else who is wavering. Genius play woot, but after it's all said and done you will see you were very wrong.

UKfan
02-26-2012, 03:28 PM
I have to say Woot is playing this masterfully. I was highly highly suspicious early on of him as pointed out by Bulldogs amongst others, and I can still see why he would be voted as his credibility was seriously hurt by the early lies, but then the guys who have rooted out the evil previously seem dead set on defending him. Either it is massive cahoots being very well played, or at least one of CCB and Ngata is evil. I need to have a think (and a beer, this **** is giving me a headache!)

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:34 PM
Also pretty funny that when Zachs had info against someone, most the crew who is set on voting against me were not sold based on there possibly being a framer out there. But it's ok to lynch me with even less credible evidence.

I think it's clear what's going on....

JVIG is good, casts doubt on me based on me doing it to him a few days ago.

Woot sees an oppurtunity to pretend like he has a power. Casts doubt on people that aren't in his corner (ME, FE, Ngata, TBW, NCST, etc) so that the people are in his corner (Bulldogs, JVig, IBC, etc) will hop on the bandwagon, ensuring him safety until tomorrow.

It's smart, Woot is pwning you guys right now, I tip my cap

Wootylicous
02-26-2012, 03:38 PM
Again TBW was cleard by Mcgee who I trust. The guys in my corner wanted to lynch me from the beginning of this game I don't see your point

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 03:39 PM
"
TBW, FE, Zach are my main guys "

"TBW was annoyed by the tone Job was using wasn't he ? interesting. "

"TBW is my other suspect. Why the hell he visited vidae ?! to tell him he's good ? no freakin way "
He was kind of being a jerk within the game, granted he was actually a survivor, but he seemed suspiciously invested. I also visited Job, McGee, bhraat and Cain. We know that all three of the dead had different roles so I think I'm confirmed good.

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:40 PM
Again TBW was cleard by Mcgee who I trust. The guys in my corner wanted to lynch me from the beginning of this game I don't see your point

They wanted to lynch you, so you backing up their claim with fake investigative material would be the perfect way to prove yourself worthy to them. Now you don't seem like some crazy guy just trying to make it to the end, you seem like someone who can be of use, which justifies keeping you around longer.

fenikz
02-26-2012, 03:41 PM
I don't think woot is evil but he is also most likely not good, gotta be some kind of wildcard

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:42 PM
He was kind of being a jerk within the game, granted he was actually a survivor, but he seemed suspiciously invested. I also visited Job, McGee, bhraat and Cain. We know that all three of the dead had different roles so I think I'm confirmed good.

I was more or less trying to spotlight the fact that Woot has accused pretty much everyone at some point in this game.

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:45 PM
I don't think woot is evil but he is also most likely not good, gotta be some kind of wildcard

He is most certainly lying about having an investigative power. I would say I was framed, but I really don't believe he has a power, so that means he's trying to deceive us all, which means he needs to be put down.

TheBoyWonder22
02-26-2012, 03:48 PM
I was more or less trying to spotlight the fact that Woot has accused pretty much everyone at some point in this game.
I don't think that's really a bad thing, it's good to have ideas, but I get your point.

ccB
02-26-2012, 03:50 PM
I don't think that's really a bad thing, it's good to have ideas, but I get your point.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just saying he hasn't been playing like he has powers, and surely hasn't helped us with said powers. Which is what makes me think I wasn't framed, and he's just lying.

eaglesalltheway
02-26-2012, 04:13 PM
Well, I've come to a conclusion... Either Woot is evil and is mindfucking as all, or CCB and Ngata have been doing a spectacular job of keeping themselves under the radar. As I see it now, and I hate doing this, as I'm still suspicious of Woot, but if this turns out that Woot is wrong again... I'm pretty sure tomorrow won't last long...

vote:CCB

Caddy
02-26-2012, 04:36 PM
When you have received enough votes to be lynched, please don't go on an out of character tirade of sorts. There is no need for it.

CCC (Mafia Roleblocker) has been Lynched.

Players have until 6pm EST tomorrow to send in their night actions. If you get them in early, I open the thread early!

Caddy
02-27-2012, 04:16 PM
The town struck gold yesterday, lynching themselves another mafia member - bringing the town one step closer to safety and eliminating the mafia threat. The last thing they needed was more civilian casualties. Fortunately for the town, they made it through the night and didn't lose anyone.

Nobody has been murdered!

Party time!...

With 18 people alive, 10 votes are needed to reach a majority.

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 04:30 PM
Yay the thread is open again!

Also yay for no murders!

Boo to Glasses back firing :'-(

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 04:34 PM
Well well well I was right about CCB eh.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 04:38 PM
The glasses backfired ?!

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 04:39 PM
The glasses backfired ?!

Yup... I am now blind and can no longer track people.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 04:41 PM
Damn!

Ngata/ncst are still my main targets.

Don't know if anyone have info on them

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 04:44 PM
I have an interesting theory... Though I will wait for some info before I divulge.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 04:44 PM
Damnit tell us what it is! :o

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 04:50 PM
I have an interesting theory... Though I will wait for some info before I divulge.
Does it have to do with the inventor? Because I too, received an inventio. But the thing is, I am led to believe our inventor is good, but perhaps is missing something in his head that is causing the inventions to backfire...even though he means good. Whether you were thinking this or not, I don't plan on using it because of my theory here.

JoeJoeBrown
02-27-2012, 04:51 PM
I don't think there is even a question:
VOTE LYNCH NGATA

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 04:51 PM
It backfired for me and IBC so you might be right

JoeJoeBrown
02-27-2012, 04:51 PM
Does it have to do with the inventor? Because I too, received an inventio. But the thing is, I am led to believe our inventor is good, but perhaps is missing something in his head that is causing the inventions to backfire...even though he means good. Whether you were thinking this or not, I don't plan on using it because of my theory here.

I would not use it. Screw that.

fenikz
02-27-2012, 04:54 PM
I don't think there is even a question:
VOTE LYNCH NGATA

I'm with you

Vote: Ngata

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:00 PM
Does it have to do with the inventor? Because I too, received an inventio. But the thing is, I am led to believe our inventor is good, but perhaps is missing something in his head that is causing the inventions to backfire...even though he means good. Whether you were thinking this or not, I don't plan on using it because of my theory here.
What is it? So we can try to imagine it's purpose.

Jvig43
02-27-2012, 05:04 PM
Well well well I was right about CCB eh.

No, I was right on CCB. I think our next lynch should be you personally because even if you aren't bad you haven't contributed to much at this point.

Also we need to stop using inventions. The risk far out weighs the reward at this point.

SuperMcGee
02-27-2012, 05:06 PM
I assume there were at least two people capable of killing last night. Hopefully any sort of preventative information is to our benefit.

I think I'm about at the point of survival where I start to get really paranoid. There are about 6 people that I trust.

Raiderz4Life
02-27-2012, 05:08 PM
No, I was right on CCB. I think our next lynch should be you personally because even if you aren't bad you haven't contributed to much at this point.

Also we need to stop using inventions. The risk far out weighs the reward at this point.

I found this a little too funny

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:08 PM
No, I was right on CCB. I think our next lynch should be you personally because even if you aren't bad you haven't contributed to much at this point.

Also we need to stop using inventions. The risk far out weighs the reward at this point.

Uh what ? Why lynch a good guy over an evil one ?

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:10 PM
Ok so IBC has no info. Jvig or Vikes did either of you discover anything? If not, I think the obvious lynch is Ngatachance.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:11 PM
I though you and me were buddies jvig :(

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:11 PM
I can also confirm TBW sent me a friendly message over the night. TBW, why did you choose to send one to vidae night one? I figured you would send one to either Shane or Job, seeing as they were the obvious good guys.

Jvig43
02-27-2012, 05:12 PM
Uh what ? Why lynch a good guy over an evil one ?

You aren't proven to be good, idk if anyone has investigated you or not but it was always an assumption that you were good and never any hard fact. What have you done besides lead us to murder Deep? With you out of the way we can lay to rest whether or not you are good, a survivor, or a serial killer. Just my opinion on the matter, this is like when CJ came back from the dead and people just ignored it all game until everyone died out. Weve ignored you since the start and I think its safer to do away with you now. I love you woot, but I am way to uneasy about your presence in this game.

Ok so IBC has no info. Jvig or Vikes did either of you discover anything? If not, I think the obvious lynch is Ngatachance.

I can't do any research or discovering, I only have what I started the game with and have been using other peoples posts with mine to put stuff together.

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:14 PM
You aren't proven to be good, idk if anyone has investigated you or not but it was always an assumption that you were good and never any hard fact. What have you done besides lead us to murder Deep? With you out of the way we can lay to rest whether or not you are good, a survivor, or a serial killer. Just my opinion on the matter, this is like when CJ came back from the dead and people just ignored it all game until everyone died out. Weve ignored you since the start and I think its safer to do away with you now. I love you woot, but I am way to uneasy about your presence in this game.



I can't do any research or discovering, I only have what I started the game with and have been using other peoples posts with mine to put stuff together.

I think there may still be one mafia member in Ngatachance. If the game doesn't end there I wouldn't have a huge issue lynching Woot next week, barring somebody discovering who the serial killer is.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:15 PM
I'm good but whatever.

with that said Vote : Ngata

Jvig43
02-27-2012, 05:16 PM
I think there may still be one mafia member in Ngatachance. If the game doesn't end there I wouldn't have a huge issue lynching Woot next week, barring somebody discovering who the serial killer is.

I am comfortable with this so long as we make damn sure to get Wooty next. I'm tired of prolonging this if the game doesnt end here. It needs to end.

Vote : Ngata

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 05:16 PM
Does it have to do with the inventor? Because I too, received an inventio. But the thing is, I am led to believe our inventor is good, but perhaps is missing something in his head that is causing the inventions to backfire...even though he means good. Whether you were thinking this or not, I don't plan on using it because of my theory here.

Nothing on the inventor... But I have a shot in the dark with who are SK is.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:17 PM
Who is he IBC ?!

Caddy
02-27-2012, 05:18 PM
Ngata 5: JJB, Fenikz, Woot, Jvig, TBW

With 18 people alive, 10 votes are needed to reach majority

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:19 PM
Alright so I'm just waiting to hear IBC's theory, as well as what Vikes acquired last night as a thief. After that I'll lynch Ngata unless there is compelling evidence otherwise.

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:19 PM
I can also confirm TBW sent me a friendly message over the night. TBW, why did you choose to send one to vidae night one? I figured you would send one to either Shane or Job, seeing as they were the obvious good guys.
Well Job wasn't an obvious good guy, but whatever. I picked vid just because I'm cool with him, it had nothing to do with the game. Here's a rundown of who I told
Night 1: Vidae
Night 2: Bhraat(died before he could report)
Night 3: Job
Night 4: McGee
Night 5: You
I'm picking at random.

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:20 PM
Alright so I'm just waiting to hear IBC's theory, as well as what Vikes acquired last night as a thief. After that I'll lynch Ngata unless there is compelling evidence otherwise.

Page trap.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:21 PM
No, I was right on CCB. I think our next lynch should be you personally because even if you aren't bad you haven't contributed to much at this point.

Also we need to stop using inventions. The risk far out weighs the reward at this point.

If it were something that wouldn't kill me (I presume) if it backfired, I wouldn't be so quick to completely throw away the idea of using it. It could teleport me (or someone else maybe, not sure) in time, if I read what the letter told me correctly, but I also imagine that if that backfired. I or whoever I'd choose to teleport would most likely die.

FlyingElvis
02-27-2012, 05:22 PM
Well, thank goodness nobody good died. Me especially, since all my work writing up my thoughts would have been a total waste. lol

100% Cleared:
Zachsaints - cleared by Broduer and revealed role as limited investigator
CJSchneider - cleared by Broduer
Eaglesalltheway - cleared by Broduer & ZS
The Boy Wonder - good neighbor
Jvig - cleared by Zachsaints
Vikes - thief (clear unless he’s a non-townie in this game)
Raiderz - priest (confirmed by Vikes)

Clear, right?
Wooty - lyncher role, should be neutral/townie, therefore a non-threat. Still the possibility he is mafia or killer and has (to this point) pulled off a whopper of a lie and an incredibly bold & risky play right out of the gate.

Interesting twist:
Cain - feeding us mafia but found bad by ZS
Which leaves us with the following options:
1. Worst. Mobster. Ever. - Seems highly unlikely to be mafia. Turning one goon in to gain the town’s trust would be brilliant. Turning it two and immediately jumping on with two more (ie. not simply casting the late vote when all is lost) would be suicide. It just burns the mafia’s chances of winning too quickly. One of those was even the Godfather . . . just way too hard to believe.
2. “It was the one-armed man!” - Framed! lol . . . There’s still the possibility that a framer is out there and targeting IBC would be a brilliant strategy for that role.
3. IBC = BTK? - You cheeky mother******. Gaining the town’s trust whilst picking us off at night would be pretty damn smart. There is the incident where Bhaarat was followed by IBC and ended up dead. The classic “why would I tell you I followed him” response would be another genius bit of misdirection. Attempts to paint Zach as an insane priest after saying you believe Raiderz to be priest and after the vote of confidence by our police chief are way beyond highly suspicious, as well. And selling out on a sig bet to get the solo win as and SK . . . wow! Consider yourself on watch but please take heart in the fact that, as long as you keep helping the town, you could stay the executioner’s hand. For now.
**New note: anyone else think it's a bit suspicious that IBC lost his vision and nobody died? Obviously there are other killers, but this could be yet another clue that IBC is, in fact, bad.

Suspicious:
Flying Elvis - I know I’m good, do you?
Bulldog - I’m liking the body of work and see BD as “the voice of reason” atm.
JoeJoeBrown - unsure . . . time to look at the available info. Voted Vidae pretty early in the game, with about 8 votes still needed to secure the noose which bodes well for non-mafia.
McGee - unsure. A bit of deflection to D-Unit’s logic regarding the players online at the time of Caddy’s updates.
UKFan - unsure. Still a pretty tough read going through all posts.
Fenikz - I still think you’re bad and it’s no longer you’re birthday. I have a rope I’d like to show you.
Mr. Goosemahn - “It’s quiet. Too quiet.” Too nonchalant for my tastes, even if I am a n00b. Saying you’re uninvolved b/c you’re simply vanilla fits too nicely. The very last vote against Vidae.
Ngata Chance - Bad? Only vocal on votes that turned out bad for the town, very defensive of CCB despite the fact that Jvig & IBC both backed lynching him. Voted Woot late when Vidae was going down, looking like an attempt to help the Godfather. Also on D-Unit’s list of suspicious b/c he was online at the time of Caddy’s update.
NCSt8 - bad? Also jumped on the Vidae bandwagon very late, just after CCB voted for vid. Mafia vote late when the tide can’t be turned. However, Job was “fairly confident in ncst not being bad.”


Let me know if I missed anyone.

Also, I think it's unwise to assume there's only one mafia left. I'm thinking a minimum of two mafia plus our killer.

With that said, I don't think it's a bad idea to off Woot, barring any info that helps target someone with more accuracy. I'll be off for about 2 hours but I think I've provided enough to digest in that time away. lol

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:23 PM
Great post FlyingElvis, if I were to guess I'd say 2-3 more bad guys max. Again, ngatachance is probably our best shot at the moment.

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 05:25 PM
I have a question woot, how did somebody who up until that point in the game with little insight except for shots in the dark at "suspicious" ppl suddenly go after CCB who hasn't appeared to suspicious to lynch based on something JVig said, instead of lynching me or Ncs8 who you have said you know visit people at night?

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:26 PM
Great post FlyingElvis, if I were to guess I'd say 2-3 more bad guys max. Again, ngatachance is probably our best shot at the moment.

I do believe there are either 2 or 3 as well. And considering nobody died last night, all the mafia that is left is a bunch of pussies!

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:28 PM
Great post FlyingElvis, if I were to guess I'd say 2-3 more bad guys max. Again, ngatachance is probably our best shot at the moment.
Are you two gonna kiss?

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:28 PM
I have a question woot, how did somebody who up until that point in the game with little insight except for shots in the dark at "suspicious" ppl suddenly go after CCB who hasn't appeared to suspicious to lynch based on something JVig said, instead of lynching me or Ncs8 who you have said you know visit people at night?

I was suspicious of you guys. Jvig (who I trust) and IBC came forward saying CCB was bad. I voted CCB after that.

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 05:30 PM
Okay... So here is my next surprising call out.

I think Bulldogs could be the Serial Killer. It would be the perfect disguise. BD has been at the forefront of lynching everyone. He often votes early and tends to go with the majority. (Every Lynching so far he has voted for the one who gets lynched)

I think possibly attached himself to me, defending me, following my lead in order to garner the reputation of being good.

Bulldog - I’m liking the body of work and see BD as “the voice of reason” atm.

That right there is a reason why I think he might have more insidious intentions.

We have yet to see his role or any information he has given... Just kinda suspicious.

fenikz
02-27-2012, 05:31 PM
I know it got deleted so maybe I shouldn't bring it up but what was CCB saying before he died

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 05:31 PM
And how did you come by that supposed info on me and Ncs8 again? I didn't see anyone post anything like that in the main thread... Was it a.. private message?

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:33 PM
And how did you come by that supposed info on me and Ncs8 again? I didn't see anyone post anything like that in the main thread... Was it a.. private message?
Um...vote: Ngatachance92

Caddy
02-27-2012, 05:33 PM
If it got deleted, it stays deleted.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:33 PM
And how did you come by that supposed info on me and Ncs8 again? I didn't see anyone post anything like that in the main thread... Was it a.. private message?

A private message ? You mean I received one message with info ? hell no

Bulldogs
02-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Okay... So here is my next surprising call out.

I think Bulldogs could be the Serial Killer. It would be the perfect disguise. BD has been at the forefront of lynching everyone. He often votes early and tends to go with the majority. (Every Lynching so far he has voted for the one who gets lynched)

I think possibly attached himself to me, defending me, following my lead in order to garner the reputation of being good.

That right there is a reason why I think he might have more insidious intentions.

We have yet to see his role or any information he has given... Just kinda suspicious.

Damn it IBC I defend you and this is how you repay me. Long story short, I'm not a serial killer. Have vikes steal from me tonight or you can follow me.

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:35 PM
Damn it IBC I defend you and this is how you repay me. Long story short, I'm not a serial killer. Have vikes steal from me tonight or you can follow me.
Hold on, why are people under the impression that thief is a good role?

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 05:36 PM
Damn it IBC I defend you and this is how you repay me. Long story short, I'm not a serial killer. Have vikes steal from me tonight or you can follow me.

Dude... I didn't want to say it. I don't even want to think it! But if I was a Serial Killer its how I would play it. It just makes too much sense.

Not to mention I lost my ability to track by the Glasses back firing.

Raiderz4Life
02-27-2012, 05:37 PM
Hold on, why are people under the impression that thief is a good role?

Haven't you ever watched Aladdin?

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:38 PM
Haven't you ever watched Aladdin?
Hundreds of times, I just not get why that isn't suspicious to people...

fenikz
02-27-2012, 05:39 PM
Or maybe White Collar :)

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 05:41 PM
What I am implying was that other than Pm I don't know how else you could come by the info you claim you have other than by pm if its not in the main thread.

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:42 PM
Or maybe White Collar :)
I don't know what this means, sorry. I'd like to hear from the remaining members of the town before lynching anyone.

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 05:42 PM
Whoops sorry woot, that was meant to go in the PM you just sent me.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:42 PM
Idk who started the ngata/ncst8 train, but I held this info long enough, and I figure If I'm not going to use the invention I was given, and this name has come up a lot under suspicion in the past few pages, and I want it cleared...

The info I got two nights ago now, said the good guy was ncst8. Now like I said before, I don't "know" this for certain, but I'm pretty sure who sent me the info (its one of two guys, and I'm pretty sure it was Brody) can be trusted. Whether the info they were given can be trusted or not is up for discussion, but those of you who are suspecting ncst8 may need to go back over why you think that. I personally haven't seen anything that indicates he is bad, so unless there is rock solid proof, I will not be voting for ncst8 to be lynched at any point in this game, based off of the only (seemingly) straight-forward info I've gotten the entire game.

And because of that, I am going to be very hesitant voting for ngata. I haven't seen anything that makes him seem like a threat either, though I would be more inclined to vote for him if info does come out. But as it stands today, I know of a few guys who I am definitely NOT voting to lynch, and ncst8 is one of them. Unless someone has rock hard proof that I believe more than the info I got, that is.

I really don't know where to turn today, it seems the town is gung ho on at least ngata, but I really am not sure if he is bad. I know those of you that suspect ngata also suspect ncst8, but because of the info I have, I am skeptical that either are a threat.

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:43 PM
What I am implying was that other than Pm I don't know how else you could come by the info you claim you have other than by pm if its not in the main thread.
Why not investigation? I think the jig is up Ngata.

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 05:45 PM
He said earlier that his investigation was a ruse, he doesn't have that power.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:45 PM
Hold on, why are people under the impression that thief is a good role?

Its not, but its pretty much one of those "harmless" bad roles...

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:46 PM
Idk who started the ngata/ncst8 train, but I held this info long enough, and I figure If I'm not going to use the invention I was given, and this name has come up a lot under suspicion in the past few pages, and I want it cleared...

The info I got two nights ago now, said the good guy was ncst8. Now like I said before, I don't "know" this for certain, but I'm pretty sure who sent me the info (its one of two guys, and I'm pretty sure it was Brody) can be trusted. Whether the info they were given can be trusted or not is up for discussion, but those of you who are suspecting ncst8 may need to go back over why you think that. I personally haven't seen anything that indicates he is bad, so unless there is rock solid proof, I will not be voting for ncst8 to be lynched at any point in this game, based off of the only (seemingly) straight-forward info I've gotten the entire game.

And because of that, I am going to be very hesitant voting for ngata. I haven't seen anything that makes him seem like a threat either, though I would be more inclined to vote for him if info does come out. But as it stands today, I know of a few guys who I am definitely NOT voting to lynch, and ncst8 is one of them. Unless someone has rock hard proof that I believe more than the info I got, that is.

I really don't know where to turn today, it seems the town is gung ho on at least ngata, but I really am not sure if he is bad. I know those of you that suspect ngata also suspect ncst8, but because of the info I have, I am skeptical that either are a threat.

Avoiding page trap

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:48 PM
Its not, but its pretty much one of those "harmless" bad roles...
What the hell, I wish I saw this earlier. We have someone we know is stealing things and we're not doing anything about it...this seems to be counterproductive.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:49 PM
What the hell, I wish I saw this earlier. We have someone we know is stealing things and we're not doing anything about it...this seems to be counterproductive.

Here's the thing though. If he even is a bad guy, he is giving the town info on everyone he steals from, which is making the town's job a lot easier on figuring out who is and isn't a threat. Its kinda dumb on his part if he is bad and doing this, or he could be brilliant and lying to everyone the whole time, lol.

Raiderz4Life
02-27-2012, 05:50 PM
What the hell, I wish I saw this earlier. We have someone we know is stealing things and we're not doing anything about it...this seems to be counterproductive.

he's helped clear ppl's names.

fenikz
02-27-2012, 05:51 PM
If vikes is mafia and can share the information he should be dead

But I think he is pretty useless, so it's better to go after potential serial killers

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:53 PM
If vikes is mafia and can share the information he should be dead

But I think he is pretty useless, so it's better to go after potential serial killers

At this point vikes in neither good nor bad, he has put out info on everyone he investigated, so it helps both sides now that I think about it. But I do agree that we need to look after the serial killer, and TBW's seeming to look for a fallguy right now so I'm adding him to my list of suspected SKs..

Edit: Also, every time I see "SK" I think of SuperKevin, and how he's never around anymore, and it makes me sad...

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:54 PM
Has he found anyone guilty? I'm more concerned with that than proclaiming anyones innocence.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 05:56 PM
He doesn't really find anyone guilty or not guilty, he steals their ****, and we're supposed to interpret the puzzle piece that he's given correctly to figure out where the person is aligned. I'm quite perplexed by him finding a penny on me. Does that mean I'm a broke townie too? lol

TheBoyWonder22
02-27-2012, 05:56 PM
And no EATW, I'm just trying to understand what I've missed. About 3 people all know for a fact I'm innocent, in fact they somehow even knew the name of my role in the good neighbor.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 05:57 PM
I think it's pretty clear you got exposed ngata by defending CCB to the death (I know you too are buddies outside of the forum) and it's time for you to get lynched.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 06:00 PM
I think it's pretty clear you got exposed ngata by defending CCB to the death (I know you too are buddies outside of the forum) and it's time for you to get lynched.

If anything, that makes me suspect ngata a little less. Them being friends IRL makes me think they'd be defending eachother no matter what their roles. Besides ngata defending his friend (and hey, sometimes our friends lead double lives we don't know about, lol) he hasn't done anything suspicious. Although I do agree that is more to go on than a lot of people have right now, that just isn't enough for me to cast a lynch vote.

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 06:02 PM
I never defended ccb, I defended myself. My name was brought up before I said anything.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 06:02 PM
Are you or are you not evil ngata ?!

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 06:08 PM
People, please don't skip over my post about NCst8, either. If we would end up lynching either of those two, and they come back good, prime suspects are the leaders of the movement to lynch them...

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 06:11 PM
I made my pitch... That is truly all the thoughts I have on the situation unless anyone can provide anymore information that gives us hard evidence.

Mr. Goosemahn
02-27-2012, 06:18 PM
Do we have anyone else who can provide any info?

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 06:20 PM
I'm with Goosemahn, if anyone can come forward and corroborate the info I was given, that'd at least be a big weight off my shoulders...

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 06:23 PM
We've got a mafia to deal with here APS, the last thing we need on top of it is a ghost, no matter how friendly...

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 06:27 PM
I think ngata should be lynched this round. Then kill me after that if you want to.

zachsaints52
02-27-2012, 06:39 PM
Vote: Woot

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 06:43 PM
It is in your best interest that you elaborate why. Otherwise, just popping up after not saying anything and simply casting a vote is suspicious. Though there are plenty of reasons I'm still suspicious of Wooty.

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 06:47 PM
Okay well lets stop holding Grudges against Woot when we have much much larger fish to fry.

CJSchneider
02-27-2012, 06:50 PM
Vote: Ngata

I have a bit of back-reading to do. Today has been busy to say the least, but I have nothing with which I could say ngata is good. I submit to the decision of the crowd.

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 07:03 PM
I love you Zach you make this hilarious :p (coming out of nowhere voting for me)

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 07:04 PM
... So this has kinda stalled. But we need info badly.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 07:10 PM
A little bit, yes,i have info on the previous page that I've bring here again if I wasn't on my phone. I do think it needs to be considered, I an really uncertain that even ngata is our guy.

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 07:12 PM
A little bit, yes,i have info on the previous page that I've bring here again if I wasn't on my phone. I do think it needs to be considered, I an really uncertain that even ngata is our guy.

Its for that reason I have held off voting

SuperMcGee
02-27-2012, 07:15 PM
Okay... So here is my next surprising call out.

I think Bulldogs could be the Serial Killer. It would be the perfect disguise. BD has been at the forefront of lynching everyone. He often votes early and tends to go with the majority. (Every Lynching so far he has voted for the one who gets lynched)

I think possibly attached himself to me, defending me, following my lead in order to garner the reputation of being good.

That right there is a reason why I think he might have more insidious intentions.

We have yet to see his role or any information he has given... Just kinda suspicious.

He does seem to think pretty logically, I don't think it's just following you or going with majority. He's been of similar mindset to myself on a lot of things, lately, which gives me an alright feeling. I wouldn't put anything past him, but he hasn't hit me as a prime suspect.

FlyingElvis
02-27-2012, 07:28 PM
There are still some guys I'd like to hear from before voting. There was activity last night so I'm hoping some of our trusted townsfolk can shed some light on what that may have been.

Vikes as a thief can be bad and probably is, which would explain why Brody was hell bent on hanging him. But, as mentioned, his info has been useful. He got APS killed, but he also kept me from donning my engineer cap and driving the "lynch Raiderz" train.

Are you two gonna kiss?

Looking for more material for your spank bank?

Raiderz4Life
02-27-2012, 07:57 PM
Okay well lets stop holding Grudges against Woot when we have much much larger fish to fry.

That sounds so delicious right now.

Since we don't have much to go off of right now

vote: ngata

fenikz
02-27-2012, 08:05 PM
7 Ngata
1 Woot

Mr. Goosemahn
02-27-2012, 08:08 PM
Based on what was said before,

Vote: Ngata

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 08:17 PM
What was said though people? Think about what we're doing... The only "evidence" we have on anyone right now, is someone defending his friend, who was in the mafia. Mayb he knew, maybe he didn't. Are we really going to lynch based off of a maybe?

ncst8fan83
02-27-2012, 08:18 PM
Not really down with the ngata lynching, but don't want to be accused of protecting a mafioso if he turns out to be bad. I will check back in when I get to work tomorrow. For now...

Vote: ngata

Wootylicous
02-27-2012, 08:19 PM
ncst! EATW cleared you no biggie...if you have any evidences about anyone tell us!

FlyingElvis
02-27-2012, 08:24 PM
I am comfortable with this so long as we make damn sure to get Wooty next. I'm tired of prolonging this if the game doesnt end here. It needs to end.

Vote : Ngata

Well, Wooty may need to go to clear the town of the dark elements, but that's after our dirty thief and killer. Speaking of our thief - has Vikes been on at all? I'd love to see if he has anything useful for us.


Also worth noting - Ncst8 & Goose jumping on the vote late. That scares me a bit.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 08:26 PM
Either way, we have to anticipate the mafia coming back with a vengence after their poor showing last night, (pretty sure they're scared and we got them cornered) so we have to make sure we get this right.

ncst8fan83
02-27-2012, 08:31 PM
What was said though people? Think about what we're doing... The only "evidence" we have on anyone right now, is someone defending his friend, who was in the mafia. Mayb he knew, maybe he didn't. Are we really going to lynch based off of a maybe?

Would you rather no lynch? I mean, what other options are there? If there are no investigative roles for the townies, you will never get anything other than maybes.

Caddy
02-27-2012, 08:32 PM
Ngata 9: JJB, Fenikz, Woot, Jvig, TBW, CJ, Raiderz, Goose, NCST8
Woot 1: Zach,

With 18 people alive, 10 votes are needed to reach majority

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 08:32 PM
Well, Wooty may need to go to clear the town of the dark elements, but that's after our dirty thief and killer. Speaking of our thief - has Vikes been on at all? I'd love to see if he has anything useful for us.


Also worth noting - Ncst8 & Goose jumping on the vote late. That scares me a bit.
idk if that is suspicious, tbh, I haven't voted yet, and if I did vote for ngata, is that any less suspicious than either of those two? I know I've been confirmed as good, but I've also come forward with what I got on ncst8, and have no reason to think otherwise, so arty least consider the possibility tha it may just be a coincidence.

Ngatachance92
02-27-2012, 08:34 PM
*(Slow clapping) Bravo... Well done. I have been a suspect from day one. Now, it has finally all come together. A little too late for some people... A little too late for Shane... Though he was going to die regardless if I chose him or not... A little too late for Bhaarat... A little too late for D-Unit or Job...... Far too late for Mrs.Kensingtons dear boy Johnny... Such a sweet child... And he was even sweeter on the inside.... I licked the bones clean... You will find the lower half of his skull on my desk in my study... I have been using it to ash my cigars on occasion. Yet I still somehow managed to get more use of the boy alive than dead... Somehow.... Go ahead... Kill me... You only walk this earth but a limited number of years... But my legacy will last for all eternity. SEE YOU ALL IN HELL!!!!!!

ncst8fan83
02-27-2012, 08:35 PM
Well, Wooty may need to go to clear the town of the dark elements, but that's after our dirty thief and killer. Speaking of our thief - has Vikes been on at all? I'd love to see if he has anything useful for us.


Also worth noting - Ncst8 & Goose jumping on the vote late. That scares me a bit.

This is the funny thing about voting. Vote too soon and you're leading the charge to lynch a townsperson. Vote too late and you're mafia trying to pile on. There is no "good" time to vote if it's a good guy and there is no "bad" time to vote if it's a mafia guy. If I don't vote and he comes back as mafia, I look bad too. So, what choice should I make, Mr. FlyingElvis? Or rather, which choice is the correct choice?

ImBrotherCain
02-27-2012, 08:37 PM
Thanks for confirming

Vote: Ngata

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2012, 08:37 PM
Would you rather no lynch? I mean, what other options are there? If there are no investigative roles for the townies, you will never get anything other than maybes.

No, but perhaps there is info out there to be given, and we should at least wait for vikes top come back with his results.

Caddy
02-27-2012, 08:39 PM
Following the quietest night in town so far, the town looked poised to secure advantage. Deciding rather briskly to lynch Ngata, it appears that they made the right decision.

Ngata (Psycopath) has been Lynched.

Players have until 8pm EST tomorrow to send in their night actions. If you get them in early, I open the thread early!

Caddy
02-28-2012, 05:41 PM
There was a new found feeling of ease in the town. Perhaps times were a changin'. That may well be the case, but it couldn't help Jvig make it through the night - his body found floating in the river, gun shot wound to the head. This was a stark reminder that the town wasn't safe yet.

Jvig (Cop) Has been murdered.

The town would surely miss Jvig.

With 16 people alive, 9 votes are needed to reach a majority.

Also if I should have contacted you during the night phase but didn't, please let me know asap.

ImBrotherCain
02-28-2012, 05:51 PM
Ugh thats not good

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 05:52 PM
I think that means Woot has to go, he did fight more strongly to kill him than anyone else.

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 05:55 PM
That's a *****. Who's left alive?

ncst8fan83
02-28-2012, 05:57 PM
That's a *****. Who's left alive?

Vikes
McGee
Raiderz
Ncst8fan83
UKFan
Wooty
Cain
CJSchneider
Flying Elvis
The Boy Wonder
Bulldog
JoeJoeBrown
Zachsaints
Fenikz
Mr. Goosemahn
Eaglesalltheway

9 needed for majority.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:13 PM
I'm sold actually, sorry Woot. You've recovered nicely, but Jvig is a cop and is sold on you. I feel we have no choice.
Vote: Wooty Magic

ImBrotherCain
02-28-2012, 06:23 PM
I'm sold actually, sorry Woot. You've recovered nicely, but Jvig is a cop and is sold on you. I feel we have no choice.
Vote: Wooty Magic

I am pretty sure the Mafia killed him... I seriously doubt at this point Woot is Mafia

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:27 PM
I am pretty sure the Mafia killed him... I seriously doubt at this point Woot is Mafia
I'm not saying he killed him, I'm saying he's a cop and he led the charge against Woot. That is pretty convincing if you ask me.

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 06:31 PM
I would say TBW does have a point.

ImBrotherCain
02-28-2012, 06:38 PM
And if we waste a lynch on either a neutral or even townie?

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 06:40 PM
Seriously what the crap I was against CCB and Ngata BOTH EVIL!!!!!

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 06:42 PM
If you guys don't get the point that I'm good now you ******* suck at this game

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:43 PM
I get that, but unless someone makes some noise, it has to be the move. We're gonna wait and see, but at the moment, it looks to be in our best interest IMO.

Raiderz4Life
02-28-2012, 06:43 PM
Not really sure what to do right now. We don't have much to go by.

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:43 PM
Yeah Woot I know, but jvig was a cop and he was against you. Doesn't that count for something?

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 06:44 PM
TBW are you serious ? I'M A GOOD GUY why the **** is that your best option ?!

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:45 PM
Also this may be a dumb question, but why are you shown as offline while you're posting?

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 06:47 PM
(it's in your options its called invisible mode)

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:50 PM
(it's in your options its called invisible mode)
I know, but why are you applying it? I may be reaching, but when I was Mafia I would do that so people couldn't observe my interactions. I'll Unvote you for now, but I'd like to think jvig's investigations had some merit.
Unvote: Woot

ImBrotherCain
02-28-2012, 06:52 PM
I know, but why are you applying it? I may be reaching, but when I was Mafia I would do that so people couldn't observe my interactions. I'll Unvote you for now, but I'd like to think jvig's investigations had some merit.
Unvote: Woot

I just kept mine that way since that game.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 06:53 PM
I always had it! I think IBC have this option too and Brodeur is also using it (no connection to the game)

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 06:55 PM
Alright, just thought I'd acknowledge it.

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 06:56 PM
UK is the most suspicious for me.

zachsaints52
02-28-2012, 06:59 PM
I recieved info from someone last night (but I wont say who)

Probably shouldnt use it anyways, people don't listen...

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:00 PM
Tell us zach!

Wootylicous
02-28-2012, 07:01 PM
I will listen to every options we have at this point

TheBoyWonder22
02-28-2012, 07:03 PM
Btw Woot, considering the Godfather started to accuse you 3 minutes into the game, my opinion of you has increased.