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fenikz
03-08-2012, 02:56 PM
Important Dates
Trade Deadline - Monday, March 12th
Sim Voting Deadline - Tuesday, March 13th
NBA Lottery/Draft Start - Tuesday, March 13th
Options/Free Agency Round 1 - Monday, March 19th
Free Agency Round 2 - Tuesday, March 20th
Free Agency Round 3 - Wednesday, March 21th
2013 Sim Voting - TBD

Atlanta Hawks - STRIP
Boston Celtics - T-RICH49
Charlotte Bobcats - zachsaints
Chicago Bulls - Docta
Cleveland Cavaliers - fenikz
Dallas Mavericks - Bantx
Denver Nuggets - Broduer
Detroit Pistons - WMD
Golden State Warriors - Justone2
Houston Rockets - commie
Indiana Pacers - rockio42
LA Clippers - Da-Phins
LA Lakers - STRIP
Memphis Grizzlies - Zycho32
Miami Heat - DG
Milwaukee Bucks - senormysterioso
Minnesota Timberwolves - prock
New Jersey Nets - Scottyboy
New Orleans Hornets - woot
New York Knicks - Rob S
Oklahoma City Thunder - woot
Orlando Magic - Grizzlegom
Philadelphia Sixers - zachsaints
Phoenix Suns - fenikz
Portland Trail Blazers - TheBoyWonder22
Sacramento Kings - RaiderNation
San Antonio Spurs - Zycho32
Toronto Raptors - fenikz
Utah Jazz - zachsaints
Washington Wizards - ccB

Resources
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker
http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

• The Salary Cap will remain soft and has been set for the 2011-12 season at $58.044 million.
• The maximum length of a player contract will be reduced by one year, from six years for a team's own players and five years for other players, to five years and four years, respectively.
• Salaries in new player contracts may increase by up to 7.5% per year for a team's own players and 4.5% per year for other free agents.
• Three Mid-Level exceptions now exist:
- For non-taxpayers: Mid-Level exception set at $5 million in 2011-12 and 2012-13, growing 3% annually thereafter; maximum contract length is four years.
- For taxpayers: Mid-Level exception set at $3 million, growing 3% annually thereafter; maximum contract length of two years.
- For teams operating with salary cap room: Mid-Level exception set at $2.5 million, growing 3% annually thereafter; maximum contract length of two years.

2011/12 max salary cap figure: $58,044,000
2011/12 min salary cap figure: $46,435,200
2011/12 luxury tax threshold: $70,307,000

2011/12 maximum player salary, 0-6 years service: $12,922,194
2011/12 maximum player salary, 7-9 years service: $15,506,632
2011/12 maximum player salary, 10+ years service: $18,091,071

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 03:11 PM
Kings please!!!

Wootylicous
03-08-2012, 03:12 PM
I want the Thunder please!

zachsaints52
03-08-2012, 03:21 PM
Sixers por favor

and if we take 2nd teams ill take either Bobcats or Nuggets

Grizzlegom
03-08-2012, 03:30 PM
I can take Orlando...

zachsaints52
03-08-2012, 03:35 PM
I can take Orlando...

Someone will be getting a lot of PMs here soon.

Rob S
03-08-2012, 03:44 PM
Knicks fo sho

SuperPacker
03-08-2012, 03:49 PM
wish i followed basketball...

Brodeur
03-08-2012, 04:01 PM
Give me the Nuggets.

Docta
03-08-2012, 04:19 PM
Gimme Da Bulls.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 05:03 PM
1/3 of the way there

zachsaints52
03-08-2012, 05:26 PM
What are we doing about lottery protected picks and such? Want to get a idea before we start right?

fenikz
03-08-2012, 05:32 PM
anything that happened in real life happens here, if you traded a lottery protected pick and end up in the lottery you still have it

Brodeur
03-08-2012, 05:34 PM
Can I umm, somehow sign Wilson Chandler?

fenikz
03-08-2012, 05:35 PM
you can work a sign and trade for him, he won't be playing for the Nuggets this year though

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 05:36 PM
Tyreke, Hickson and my 1st rounder is on the block if you want to get a deal done.

TheBoyWonder22
03-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Portland please!

fenikz
03-08-2012, 06:10 PM
done, 18 teams left

Unbiased
03-08-2012, 06:16 PM
Nevermind this post

Brodeur
03-08-2012, 06:33 PM
Black guy who pretends to be white, the Kings have not yet used the amnesty clause so I assume you'd be free to use it on whomever you want (aka John Salmons).

fenikz
03-08-2012, 06:34 PM
yea but save that for the offseason

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 06:36 PM
Sorry about that. But ya I will wait until the draft is closer before I'd do it. Thank god I can get Salmons ass out of town though lol

Justone2
03-08-2012, 06:36 PM
Can is get the Warriors

fenikz
03-08-2012, 06:44 PM
hmmmm can i trust you to be active?

Justone2
03-08-2012, 07:16 PM
Only problem that can happen is that i am in a different time-zone but besides that i am sure you can. So for the draft i will make sure to make a big-board because i am in Europe.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 07:27 PM
alright youre in

Da-Phins
03-08-2012, 07:32 PM
I will take the Nets my good sir.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 07:36 PM
feel free to start grabbing a 2nd team

zachsaints gave you the bobcats

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 07:40 PM
You many want to send a few PM's to the posters that usually participate.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 07:44 PM
I have for a few(T'Wolves, Pistons) but some teams just don't have fans

fenikz
03-08-2012, 08:03 PM
I will take the Nets my good sir.

sorry sir but i gotta give em to scottyboy

Da-Phins
03-08-2012, 08:05 PM
sorry sir but i gotta give em to scottyboy

Pretty ****** up since already had me down for it but whatever I guess.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 08:06 PM
are you even a Nets fan?

Da-Phins
03-08-2012, 08:07 PM
are you even a Nets fan?

Nope but does it matter since you already had me down for it?

Da-Phins
03-08-2012, 08:10 PM
Its whatever though. Not gonna make a big deal about it. Will catch this thing around next time. Have fun!

fenikz
03-08-2012, 08:12 PM
you can just be a different team if you like

Da-Phins
03-08-2012, 08:14 PM
Scratch that. Didnt know the Clippers are open. I'll take them I guess.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 08:19 PM
hooray : )

Brodeur
03-08-2012, 08:29 PM
Scratch that. Didnt know the Clippers are open. I'll take them I guess.

It's okay Da-Phins, bring it in. You know you want a Brody hug.

Da-Phins
03-08-2012, 08:33 PM
Can we spoon afterwards?

Brodeur
03-08-2012, 08:35 PM
I am okay with it.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 08:48 PM
13 teams left, hoping yo/prock grab the t'wolves and WMD takes the pistons

zachsaints52
03-08-2012, 09:10 PM
76ers looking to package youngsters for another star type player

Bobcats looking to trade anyone not named Kemba or Bismack.

TheBoyWonder22
03-08-2012, 09:28 PM
Everyone in Portland is on the block except LA. I really want a star PG and an up and coming center.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 09:32 PM
i have both of those things but i dont know if you have what it takes to get em

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 09:36 PM
Someone's trade me a decent SF for JJ Hickson.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 09:37 PM
josh childress to the kings :)

T-RICH49
03-08-2012, 09:39 PM
I'll take the C's

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 10:16 PM
josh childress to the kings :)

That's almost as bad as me not using the amniesty clause on Salmons lol. Dudley on the other hand....

fenikz
03-08-2012, 10:17 PM
certainly not for Hickson

SeanTaylorRIP
03-08-2012, 10:18 PM
Ill takes hawks, if we are taking 2nd teams ill take either lakers or cavs.

fenikz
03-08-2012, 10:19 PM
ya go ahead and pick one

SeanTaylorRIP
03-08-2012, 10:20 PM
i'll take lakers

RaiderNation
03-08-2012, 10:22 PM
Somebody take the Pacers and swap me Paul George for Tyreke Evans :) Fair trade IMO

fenikz
03-08-2012, 10:37 PM
ill go ahead and take the Cavs

Varejao, Gibson and Sessions on the block

and potentially Jamison's expiring for the right offer

rockio42
03-08-2012, 11:03 PM
I'll take Timberwolves, Pacers, or Spurs if you need anyone of em. In that order as well haha

fenikz
03-08-2012, 11:09 PM
I pm'ed 2 T'Wolves fans about the team, but if you want the Pacers they are yours

how is it that my sig is limited to 5 lines, yours is clearly like 10

rockio42
03-08-2012, 11:19 PM
I pm'ed 2 T'Wolves fans about the team, but if you want the Pacers they are yours

how is it that my sig is limited to 5 lines, yours is clearly like 10

Yeah I'll take the Pacers.

Can't tell you why, It's been that way for like a year now.

yo123
03-09-2012, 12:16 AM
Prock or someone else can have the Wolves, I have too much **** going on right now to get in on this one.

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 01:02 AM
After pulling off that, I'd be willing to trade one of my awful forward contracts for an awful backup guard contract.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 01:09 AM
thats a scary team when gallo returns

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 01:11 AM
He's already back. And Wilson should only be making about $7ish-8 million for that trade to work I think, that's definitely a bit much.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 01:18 AM
worked on the trade machine with a 7.7 and 1.3 contract substituted(cant remember who)

$9,000,000
$9,900,000
$10,890,000
$11,979,000
$13,176,900

or do you just think it's too much for him in general, was going off DeAndre Jordan's contract kinda

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 01:24 AM
worked on the trade machine with a 7.7 and 1.3 contract substituted(cant remember who)

$9,000,000
$9,900,000
$10,890,000
$11,979,000
$13,176,900

or do you just think it's too much for him in general, was going off DeAndre Jordan's contract kinda

It's just too much for Wilson. With Andy and Sessions, it's approximately $12 million coming to the Nuggets, with $5.6 million going to the Cavs in Koufos/Mozgov. Granted, Koufos got an extension with his salary decreasing but that's an approximate for now. Combine that and it's about a $6-7 million possibility, and his contract should probably be about...

$6,500,000
$6,500,000
$7,000,000
$7,000,000
$7,500,000

So 5 years/$34.5 million, instead of $54.5 million.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 01:36 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6vphfd7

Miller & Faried in place of Chandler

but ill drop his starting salary to 8 for realism

8,000,000
8,800,000
9,680,000
10,648,000
11,712,800
-
48,840,800

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 01:38 AM
If you do it with Al Harrington, it works as well (and he makes $6.2 million).

fenikz
03-09-2012, 01:57 AM
alright after some IRC discussion we have decided on this

$3,500,000(half season)
$8,000,000
$9,000,000
$10,000,000
$11,000,000

Chandler’s market value is estimated at around $9 million per year, if one was to look at fellow forwards from his draft class, be it Carl Landry of New Orleans or Thaddeus Young of Philadelphia. http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/2012/03/02/the-latest-on-free-agent-wilson-chandler/6112/


Nash, Hill, Fropez on the blocks, all expiring but with bird rights

scottyboy
03-09-2012, 08:51 AM
don't worry guys, i am here.

Any team looking to rebuild, I have a plethora of expiring contracts and draft picks. so yeah, let's do this

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 12:14 PM
Im not understanding the Nuggets thought process to be honest. I liked the Cavs trade, because you basically give up two backup Centers and a 15 1st for two quality players. By why trade two young up and coming good players for Gortat and two horrible contracts?

fenikz
03-09-2012, 02:11 PM
cus Gortat is a top 5 center and he can amnesty Warrick after the season if he wants to

RaiderNation
03-09-2012, 02:15 PM
How close are we to filling out the teams

Wootylicous
03-09-2012, 02:15 PM
I'll take a second team!

fenikz
03-09-2012, 02:18 PM
5 left

Memphis Grizzlies
New Orleans Hornets
San Antonio Spurs
Toronto Raptors
Utah Jazz

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 02:19 PM
cus Gortat is a top 5 center and he can amnesty Warrick after the season if he wants to

Dwight, Bogut, Horford (pre injury), Noah, Bynum (since he is healthy this year), Chandler, Jefferson. Crap, Verejao is playing solid too.

Top 10 yeah. But IRL Nuggets are high on Faried and Hamilton. Im not saying to veto or anything, I just dont understand it. The Suns won the trade by a lot. Gives them two young studs, another 1st this year, and it vaults them to the top to snag a legit Center in the draft.

And you cant amnesty players you trade for. Only the players that was on your roster from the time the CBA was signed. Hakim= cant be amnestied.

Wootylicous
03-09-2012, 02:19 PM
Give me the Hornets!

fenikz
03-09-2012, 02:23 PM
he can amnesty Birdman then

1. Howard
2. Bynum
3. Gortat
4. Gasol
5. Cousins

And I only put him behind Bynum cus Lakers fans ***** and moan if you don't despite him abusing Bynum in head to head match ups

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 02:30 PM
Dwight, Bogut, Horford (pre injury), Noah, Bynum (since he is healthy this year), Chandler, Jefferson. Crap, Verejao is playing solid too.

Top 10 yeah. But IRL Nuggets are high on Faried and Hamilton. Im not saying to veto or anything, I just dont understand it. The Suns won the trade by a lot. Gives them two young studs, another 1st this year, and it vaults them to the top to snag a legit Center in the draft.

And you cant amnesty players you trade for. Only the players that was on your roster from the time the CBA was signed. Hakim= cant be amnestied.

I wasn't going to do it if I couldn't get Varejao and Sessions anyway. I love Faried to death (meh to Hamilton), but I needed a legit center to pair with Nene and I got him. Also, as for your centers...

Dwight- Obviously
Bogut- ALWAYS hurt
Horford- not a center
Noah- Eh, I'd take Gortat
Bynum- Not by much
Tyson- I'd take Gortat
Jefferson- I'd take Gortat

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 02:42 PM
I wasn't going to do it if I couldn't get Varejao and Sessions anyway. I love Faried to death (meh to Hamilton), but I needed a legit center to pair with Nene and I got him. Also, as for your centers...

Dwight- Obviously
Bogut- ALWAYS hurt
Horford- not a center
Noah- Eh, I'd take Gortat
Bynum- Not by much
Tyson- I'd take Gortat
Jefferson- I'd take Gortat

I just didnt understand, and since you love Gortat I now understand your reasoning. But have fun being stuck with Warrick and Frye for the next few years :P

fenikz
03-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Frye isn't bad now, playing shut down defense, just needs to find his shot again :/

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Frye isn't bad now, playing shut down defense, just needs to find his shot again :/

But is he worth his contract? Being the 3rd Center on the team.

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 02:47 PM
I just didnt understand, and since you love Gortat I now understand your reasoning. But have fun being stuck with Warrick and Frye for the next few years :P

Warrick is buried behind Gorat/Nene/Varejao/Al/Frye for the time being, and Frye can contribute. Doesn't really matter contract wise, it's just to make a playoff run for as long as I can. Because, as much as I may like Faried or think Hamilton could be solid, they'll never be great.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 02:47 PM
no but having a big man who can hit 3's somewhat valuable, obviously I was only going to trade Gortat if I could move contracts with him

now get in on the Nash, Hill, Fropez sweepstakes, all expiring but you get their Bird rights

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 02:50 PM
Warrick is buried behind Gorat/Nene/Varejao/Al/Frye for the time being, and Frye can contribute. Doesn't really matter contract wise, it's just to make a playoff run for as long as I can. Because, as much as I may like Faried or think Hamilton could be solid, they'll never be great.

Im a stickler for contracts, which is my main thing. I hate catching salaries :/

Actually, a lot of people believe Faried could be a great player in Denvers system. Love his energy, him and Birdman are like two guys on crack.

no but having a big man who can hit 3's somewhat valuable, obviously I was only going to trade Gortat if I could move contracts with him

now get in on the Nash, Hill, Fropez sweepstakes, all expiring but you get their Bird rights

PM me what it would take for Hill. Might be interested.

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 02:53 PM
But the point is, right now, I have a top 10 player at each position. I have enough shooters, inside/perimeter D, depth, and inside scoring to make it far into the playoffs. There's no star necessarily, but that doesn't mean they couldn't go places.

TheBoyWonder22
03-09-2012, 02:55 PM
Fenikz, pm me back, I want this dude.

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 03:35 PM
Also Fenikz, if you want I can take a 3rd team, seeing as being the Bobcats I won't do much anyways. Any of em is fine, because each has a situation to address.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 04:09 PM
big ass trade going down

Justone2
03-09-2012, 04:13 PM
Kwame's ass is pretty big.

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 04:14 PM
big ass trade going down

No it isn't.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 04:20 PM
Any experts on bird rights here? Do you lose bird rights if you sign players from outside your organization?

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Yes, you lose player's bird rights if you go outside the organization to sign a free agent. That's why the Heat had to do the whole Haslem ordeal when they brought Bosh and LeBron over.

WMD
03-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Pistons are looking for draft picks, youngish players and short contracts! Rodney Stuckey, Ben Gordon, and Jason Maxiell can be valuable to your stupid playoff teams.

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 04:23 PM
If you trade for a player you get his bird years though IIRC

fenikz
03-09-2012, 04:24 PM
Yes, you lose player's bird rights if you go outside the organization to sign a free agent. That's why the Heat had to do the whole Haslem ordeal when they brought Bosh and LeBron over.

you sure that wasn't because they waived Haslem prior to signing Bosh and LeBron?

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 04:26 PM
you sure that wasn't because they waived Haslem prior to signing Bosh and LeBron?

I am very sure.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 04:37 PM
pjC1r72hYgQ

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Suns are raping this sim.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Feel free to waive people just PM me, you will owe their full contract but they will be eligible to sign for the minimum else where, I will keep the list in 1st post of this thread

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 04:46 PM
We have to keep a minimum of 13 players, right?

Brodeur
03-09-2012, 04:48 PM
We have to keep a minimum of 13 players, right?

12, not 13. You have to keep 8 players dressed.

TheBoyWonder22
03-09-2012, 05:00 PM
Could I send a guy to the DLeague? I have too many guys and I really don't want to waive my younger guys.

Justone2
03-09-2012, 05:01 PM
guess i am set to tank out the season and hopefully end in the bottom 7 which is protected because else my pick would go to Utah.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 05:16 PM
Can trade exceptions be added on to contracts to match?

I always thought you could only use the exception by itself

WMD
03-09-2012, 05:32 PM
Can trade exceptions be added on to contracts to match?

I always thought you could only use the exception by itself
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7360566/nba-trade-exceptions-expiring

I still don't know.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 05:37 PM
Trade exceptions can't be combined with anything -- even other trade exceptions.

so that's a no

WMD
03-09-2012, 05:44 PM
so that's a no
But it also says "For instance, if the Lakers and Magic ever do a trade for Dwight Howard, then the Lakers potentially could use the trade exception to acquire Jameer Nelson ($8.6 million) as part of the deal, but they couldn't use it on Hedo Turkoglu ($11 million)."

Unless he means as part of a separate deal.. Too confusing.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 05:47 PM
either way you can't combine the exception with a contract to get a player

example: 2 mil exception and 2 mil player for 4 mil player

WMD
03-09-2012, 07:09 PM
Somebody throw some gosh darn trades my way dag nabbit.

scottyboy
03-09-2012, 07:11 PM
nobody wants your poopy contracts!

WMD
03-09-2012, 07:21 PM
nobody wants your poopy contracts!
Nobody wants your poopy players!

The only really bad contract I have is Villanueva. I don't expect to trade him. Nobody else has thaaaaaaaaat bad of a contract.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 07:28 PM
what do you want for brandon knight

scottyboy
03-09-2012, 08:02 PM
guys just trade me your superstars and bad contracts for my youth and expirings

TheBoyWonder22
03-09-2012, 08:07 PM
guys just trade me your superstars and bad contracts for my youth and expirings
Yeah, same here.

Zycho32
03-09-2012, 09:45 PM
I would like to take Memphis, New Orleans, or San Antonio.

Any two of the three, in that particular order.

Rob S
03-09-2012, 09:46 PM
guys just trade me your superstars and bad contracts for my youth and expirings

Answer my PM, jerk.

fenikz
03-09-2012, 10:03 PM
I would like to take Memphis, New Orleans, or San Antonio.

Any two of the three, in that particular order.

Memphis and San Antonio are yours

woot's got new orleans already

fenikz
03-09-2012, 10:06 PM
Toronto and Utah left, both have lottery picks someone take em!

zachsaints52
03-09-2012, 10:22 PM
I told ya Id take a 3rd team. I have lots of free time this weekend.

PHI- Looking to get rid of roughly a 2.5 mil player? PM me

Lookig for a defensive big or a SF/PF (SF that can play PF or a PF)

Bobcats- Anything but Kemba and Bismack can go.

Grizzlegom
03-10-2012, 07:22 AM
Sorry I haven't responded to any PMs about Dwight, finally getting around to looking at them all. Can't say I've been blown away yet. Looking for the centerpiece of the trade to either be a younger center, small forward, or point guard.

rockio42
03-10-2012, 12:54 PM
Sorry I haven't thrown my depth chart and all that up yet. But I'm willing to listen to talks about any of my guys. Looking actively to potential move Paul George and/or Tyler Hansbrough.

Brodeur
03-10-2012, 12:57 PM
Sorry I haven't responded to any PMs about Dwight, finally getting around to looking at them all. Can't say I've been blown away yet. Looking for the centerpiece of the trade to either be a younger center, small forward, or point guard.

Give me Von Wafer for something small and a second rounder. It's not really even PM worthy to **** with your Dwight trades, so I'll post it.

fenikz
03-10-2012, 03:21 PM
zachsaints taking the Jazz and ill take the Raptors and all teams are filled

Bargs and Calderon are on the block

Wootylicous
03-10-2012, 03:50 PM
Eric Gordon might be on the move!

fenikz
03-10-2012, 04:46 PM
Suns waiving Andre Miller & Sebastian Telfair

Brodeur
03-10-2012, 04:49 PM
Erm, how do I put in a claim for Andre Miller (after 30 days) or something?

TheBoyWonder22
03-10-2012, 04:53 PM
Yeah I'd like to as well. Everyone go look at my trade block!

fenikz
03-10-2012, 05:32 PM
I guess we will have a waiver claim period at the end of the trade deadline part, which ill say is over Monday midnight so get in your PMs by then

If more than 1 person claims someone, the team with the worst record currently gets them

zachsaints52
03-10-2012, 09:24 PM
I guess we will have a waiver claim period at the end of the trade deadline part, which ill say is over Monday midnight so get in your PMs by then

If more than 1 person claims someone, the team with the worst record currently gets them

And after they claim they move to the bottom, right?

zachsaints52
03-10-2012, 09:25 PM
If your looking to move a 2.7 mil player for nothing, PM me 76ers may take em.

Bobcats have crap.

Have had 3-5 offers on Al Jeff right now. Looking to get a SF type player for him.

zachsaints52
03-10-2012, 10:37 PM
Trade excptions cant be apart of trades... Remember? If so Birdmans already mine.

fenikz
03-10-2012, 10:39 PM
no you can't add trade exceptions to contracts for bigger contracts

zachsaints52
03-10-2012, 10:46 PM
so that's a no

no you can't add trade exceptions to contracts for bigger contracts

Look at that post. Nothing can be apart of trade exceptions.

TheBoyWonder22
03-10-2012, 11:27 PM
Damn one of the guys I wanted got snagged. I have good young players I'm looking to move. Someone take them off my hands. Gerald Wallace as well.

TheBoyWonder22
03-11-2012, 01:23 AM
After trading my favorite player for some youth, I'm looking to upgrade big time at center and probably try to get stronger at point guard. Still have a ton of talent on the wings and a guy I want to trade in Crawford. Hit me up dudes!

T-RICH49
03-11-2012, 01:27 AM
Celtis listening to offers for the big 4.rebuild mode about to begin

comahan
03-11-2012, 04:40 AM
The trade still works if you remove the trade exceptions and have LAL send Jason Kopono to any of the other teams as they need to kill off about 700k in cap, if you want to do it that way.

comahan
03-11-2012, 04:48 AM
lol why on earth would portland trade aldridge

fenikz
03-11-2012, 05:01 AM
Look at that post. Nothing can be apart of trade exceptions.

Making me make it more complicated than it is

ROCKETS RECEIVE:
- PF Pau Gasol
- PF/C Chris Anderson

LAKERS RECEIVE:
- PG Steve Nash
- PF Luis Scola

SUNS RECEIVE
- 2012 NYK 1st Round Pick
- 2012 DAL 1st Round Pick
- PF Patrick Patterson
- PG Johnny Flynn
- SF Chase Budinger
- C Hasheem Thabeet

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ov9hk6

---

SUNS RECEIVE:
- Trade Exception($4,000,000) from LAL

LAKERS RECIVE:
-Ryan Gomes, SF

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ta699c

TheBoyWonder22
03-11-2012, 05:23 AM
lol why on earth would portland trade aldridge
I just wanted to try something new. Haha I would never ever do that in real life. It was a fun trade and as long as I can get a real center who is on the younger side, I don't regret it.

fenikz
03-11-2012, 06:23 AM
Trade Deadline - Monday, March 12th
Sim Voting Deadline - Wednesday, March 14th
NBA Lottery/Draft Start - Thursday, March 15th
Options/Free Agency Round 1 - TBD
Free Agency Round 2 - TBD
Free Agency Round 3 - TBD
2013 Sim Voting - TBD

Brodeur
03-11-2012, 12:22 PM
The **** is that Portland trade? That is an awful trade. Also, it's funny that Phoenix is able to acquire Birdman in that trade there without me receiving that trade exception...

TheBoyWonder22
03-11-2012, 02:44 PM
The **** is that Portland trade? That is an awful trade. Also, it's funny that Phoenix is able to acquire Birdman in that trade there without me receiving that trade exception...
I just wanted to try something new haha

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 03:03 PM
Making me make it more complicated than it is

Well I just wanted it to be fair. If you could put players with exceptions, then Birdman would've already been mine...

I just wanted to try something new haha

By giving up your best player you sure did. Crap, I woulda asked about LMA if I knew he couldve been available. I just didnt expect that.

Da-Phins
03-11-2012, 03:30 PM
What time tomorrow is the cut off point for trades?

SeanTaylorRIP
03-11-2012, 03:51 PM
PM me interested in moving Horford and Teague

scottyboy
03-11-2012, 04:01 PM
boy wonder, will you answer my PM? you just stopped our trade talks...

WMD
03-11-2012, 04:33 PM
Nobody wants to trade with me :(

RaiderNation
03-11-2012, 04:34 PM
When will we move onto the lottery and the playoffs?

Grizzlegom
03-11-2012, 05:24 PM
Looking more and more likely that I'm going to be trading Dwight which means I'll be looking to get younger everywhere else, if people are interested in Jameer Nelson, Jason Richardson, Quentin Richardson, or Chris Duhon, send offers, looking to unload them.

Brodeur
03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
Looking more and more likely that I'm going to be trading Dwight which means I'll be looking to get younger everywhere else, if people are interested in Jameer Nelson, Jason Richardson, Quentin Richardson, or Chris Duhon, send offers, looking to unload them.

I SAID I WANT VON WAFER GODDAMMIT. You do not listen.

Grizzlegom
03-11-2012, 05:43 PM
I SAID I WANT VON WAFER GODDAMMIT. You do not listen.

haha i actually wanted to keep him, prefer to trade Richardson and let Redick/Wafer get the playing time.

Brodeur
03-11-2012, 05:44 PM
haha i actually wanted to keep him, prefer to trade Richardson and let Redick/Wafer get the playing time.

..**** you.

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 06:12 PM
This things pretty dead.

Wootylicous
03-11-2012, 06:15 PM
Trade talk are going on

scottyboy
03-11-2012, 06:28 PM
Grizzle at least respond to a pm so I can know to move on or not...

rockio42
03-11-2012, 06:33 PM
Sorry about my silence, I'm trying to figure stuff out and it's a little complicated, but I'll get back to people as I figure stuff out

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 06:35 PM
He just responded to me. On top of what young players youd give and taking on a bad contract, he wants expirers big enough to resign DH12 in the offseson.

scottyboy
03-11-2012, 08:00 PM
well neither grizzle nor tbw have responded, which is kinda frustrating. I've got 2 big expirings that I'm looking to deal to teams needing cap relief

Grizzlegom
03-11-2012, 08:11 PM
He just responded to me. On top of what young players youd give and taking on a bad contract, he wants expirers big enough to resign DH12 in the offseson.

I never said, that, you assumed it. haha sorry I don't want a 33 year old Elton Brand who has a massive contract that doesn't expire until next year, is a poor fit with the offensive scheme we run, and plays a position where I have two 26 and under guys that are both starters in the league. Not to mention you offered to take on Jameer and Q. Richardson's "bad" contracts and not Turk's. Jameer and Q actually have reasonable contracts, I'm just looking to move them because I was looking to go with a full-on youth movement.

I'm okay with taking on money if the player is young, otherwise I want an expiring to help reload faster. The Orlando front office has said they are using the Melo deal as a template, I'm doing the same.

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 09:25 PM
I never said, that, you assumed it. haha sorry I don't want a 33 year old Elton Brand who has a massive contract that doesn't expire until next year, is a poor fit with the offensive scheme we run, and plays a position where I have two 26 and under guys that are both starters in the league. Not to mention you offered to take on Jameer and Q. Richardson's "bad" contracts and not Turk's. Jameer and Q actually have reasonable contracts, I'm just looking to move them because I was looking to go with a full-on youth movement.

I'm okay with taking on money if the player is young, otherwise I want an expiring to help reload faster. The Orlando front office has said they are using the Melo deal as a template, I'm doing the same.

Well when all you say is when its a big time contract it has to be a expiring, what else is one suppose to think? And we both know Brand wasnt the focal point of the deal. Giving you two young solid players who would get better, a 1st, and taking two contracts you didn't want isnt enough then someone is going to get raped for a 1 year rental.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-11-2012, 09:51 PM
I gave what i think is a no brainer deal but haven't received a response so i take it D12 isn't moving anywhere.

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 09:59 PM
I gave what i think is a no brainer deal but haven't received a response so i take it D12 isn't moving anywhere.

Care to say what it was?

SeanTaylorRIP
03-11-2012, 10:08 PM
well since he hasn't even replied yet all hold off on saying it, but ill say it after the deadline passes.

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 10:10 PM
well since he hasn't even replied yet all hold off on saying it, but ill say it after the deadline passes.

Can you say which team then? I like guessing :P

SeanTaylorRIP
03-11-2012, 10:14 PM
i'll keep you guessing

WMD
03-11-2012, 10:17 PM
Remind me to not be the Pistons GM for a Fantasy mock over the next two years or so.

fenikz
03-11-2012, 10:22 PM
should grab a 2nd team and do whatever with them

WMD
03-11-2012, 10:25 PM
should grab a 2nd team and do whatever with them
maybe you should stay out of my personal business!

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 10:26 PM
Scenario time for both!

Hawks:

Horford, Hinrich, Teague, and Marvin for Dwight and Hedo


Lakers:

Your the Lakers, of course Bynum would be involved. And you say its a no-brainer, so Jameer and Hedo would be involved because I dont see how itd be a no brainer for him unless he gets rid of both contracts.

Magic get:
DH12
Jameer
Hedo

Since your getting Jameer, youd be willing to part with Nash because he said he wanted a PG and whose better then Nash? Your getting Hedo, so Metta would be in a deal. Of course Bynum and his unpredictable knees are in it as well. Now, since your off roughly a mil from completing it, you probably offered Matt Barnes to make the salaries work, and throw in a 1st as well to sweeten the deal.





I love scenarios!

SeanTaylorRIP
03-11-2012, 10:28 PM
Scenario time for both!

Hawks:

Horford, Hinrich, Teague, and Marvin for Dwight and Hedo


Lakers:

Your the Lakers, of course Bynum would be involved. And you say its a no-brainer, so Jameer and Hedo would be involved because I dont see how itd be a no brainer for him unless he gets rid of both contracts.

Magic get:
DH12
Jameer
Hedo

Since your getting Jameer, youd be willing to part with Nash because he said he wanted a PG and whose better then Nash? Your getting Hedo, so Metta would be in a deal. Of course Bynum and his unpredictable knees are in it as well. Now, since your off roughly a mil from completing it, you probably offered Matt Barnes to make the salaries work, and throw in a 1st as well to sweeten the deal.





I love scenarios!

hmm.... interesting scenarios, good read

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 10:30 PM
PM'd ya Pistons! :D

zachsaints52
03-11-2012, 10:31 PM
hmm.... interesting scenarios, good read

Thanks. I feel like the Hawks one is the more likely you sent, but I dont see him doing it because most people feel that Horford is a 4, and he has stated he has two starting caliber 4s.

WMD
03-12-2012, 12:07 AM
Wooohoooo a Trade!

Tayshaun Prince can be had for kinda sorta cheap.. He shouldn't have been re-signed by the Pistons in the first place. Stuckey, Gordon, and Will Bynum are also up. Will Bynum can be had for a matching contract at Center. Stuckey is a good scorer, and he can fit in as a 6th man or SG. Ben Gordon can be had for cheapo.

WMD
03-12-2012, 12:14 AM
So is Monday the last full day we can do trades, or is the deadline at a certain time on Monday?

RaiderNation
03-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Can't wait for the trade deadline to pass and get to the lottery already, the Kings are due some help from the lottery gods(come on Stern pull some strings to get Davis in the new arena! :) )

WMD
03-12-2012, 12:28 AM
Can't wait for the trade deadline to pass and get to the lottery already, the Kings are due some help from the lottery gods(come on Stern pull some strings to get Davis in the new arena! :) )
Nope, it's gonna be Knight/Monroe/Davis leading the new Pistons Renaissance!

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 12:45 AM
Chello... Bobcats just got worse haha. We will get #1

fenikz
03-12-2012, 12:55 AM
no moves after Midnight EST, then a day for votes

haven't got any waiver claims yet, i know someone wants Andre Miller

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 12:58 AM
I was waiting for the order and then we claim...

fenikz
03-12-2012, 01:02 AM
order goes worst record to best

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 01:05 AM
Shouldn't 76ers be able to sign those guys sinec I am under the amount of players? If so, I claim Miller and Sebastian.

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 01:25 AM
Yeah, I'll claim Miller.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 01:27 AM
If my claim doesnt go through about needing the players to move to 12 (which it should), Bobcats claim Miller. The thought of trading someone and reclaiming I dont like.

fenikz
03-12-2012, 01:36 AM
Shouldn't 76ers be able to sign those guys sinec I am under the amount of players?

I lied, if you claim a person on Waivers you pick up the rest of their contract, after they clear waivers they become a FA

so anyone want to pick up the remainder of Miller's 1 year contract?

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 01:36 AM
I lied, if you claim a person I on Waivers you pick up the rest of their contract, after they clear waivers they become a FA

so anyone want to pick up the remainder of Miller's 1 year contract?

Over here.

Brodeur
03-12-2012, 01:42 AM
I lied, if you claim a person I on Waivers you pick up the rest of their contract, after they clear waivers they become a FA

so anyone want to pick up the remainder of Miller's 1 year contract?

Yes I do sir.

fenikz
03-12-2012, 01:45 AM
trail blazers in the lead, anyone worse?

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 01:52 AM
Bobcats wil take him

fenikz
03-12-2012, 01:54 AM
Bobcats win the waiver claim

Brodeur
03-12-2012, 02:05 AM
Why exactly would the Bobcats take him?

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 02:10 AM
Why exactly would the Bobcats take him?

As of right now I have no SG, so I plan on using a duel PG system. Kemba needs someone to learn to play the PG position from, and Andre (to me) has been one of the most consistent PGs in the past decade-ish. Andre has shown he has been willing to help a future PG (Lawson) as long as he gets minutes as well.

Also, theres not going to be anyone thats actually worth anything on the waiver, so might as well use it.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 02:32 AM
Trying to find news about actual Free Agents, any help would be appreciated.

76ers would like to sign Renaldo Balkman though, I know he is a FA

Da-Phins
03-12-2012, 10:56 AM
So has the trade deadline passed or do we have till midnight?

Would ******* suck if it's passed already since I have to work from 5-4am last night and didnt hear back from people in time.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 11:28 AM
So has the trade deadline passed or do we have till midnight?

Would ******* suck if it's passed already since I have to work from 5-4am last night and didnt hear back from people in time.

Its at midnight tonight.

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 12:19 PM
If anyone is waiting to hear back from me about Dwight, I'm waiting on someone else to get back to me before I make a decision. Sorry I've been poor at responding in general, I ended up doing a few unexpected things this weekend that took me away from a computer.

Wootylicous
03-12-2012, 01:50 PM
Dwight to the lakers ?

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 01:54 PM
That's the word on the street.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 02:05 PM
That's the word on the street.

Is it close to the trade I guessed?

The Lakers are gutting their team. It would be funny to see Dwight not re-sign. To be honest, in 2 years it would be the same Magic situation there when Kobe retires. Bad contracts surrounding him.

Da-Phins
03-12-2012, 03:16 PM
Letting everyone know that Caron Butler is on the trading block. Looking for draft pick in return for him. Hit me up!

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 03:35 PM
Is it close to the trade I guessed?

The Lakers are gutting their team. It would be funny to see Dwight not re-sign. To be honest, in 2 years it would be the same Magic situation there when Kobe retires. Bad contracts surrounding him.

Eh, he only took Turk's contract, as I said, I don't mind Jameer's contract and in getting Bynum back, we can still compete. As such, I was hesitant to take on any long-term contracts for older people like Metta. You'll see the full deal once fenikz posts it : )

In other news, I'm still looking to move Jason Richardson and Chris Duhon and now Luke Walton. Walton and Duhon could be had for pretty much anything (or nothing).

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 03:40 PM
Eh, he only took Turk's contract, as I said, I don't mind Jameer's contract and in getting Bynum back, we can still compete. As such, I was hesitant to take on any long-term contracts for older people like Metta. You'll see the full deal once fenikz posts it : )

In other news, I'm still looking to move Jason Richardson and Chris Duhon and now Luke Walton. Walton and Duhon could be had for pretty much anything (or nothing).

You took Waltons contract? Wow.

RaiderNation
03-12-2012, 03:50 PM
Sorry guys I'm taking Tyreke off the market, I feel if I keep and him and make the projected moves I have ready that my team will be better in the long run. If anybody wants John Salmons and horrible contract I will take just about anything for him

fenikz
03-12-2012, 04:14 PM
7 hours & 45 minutes until the deadline!

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 04:59 PM
I think that trade locked up the title for the Thunder.

Justone2
03-12-2012, 05:13 PM
Perfect trade for both i think. Building on Westbrook for the Celtics and a pass first PG to compliment Harden and Durant for the Thunder.

Wootylicous
03-12-2012, 05:28 PM
Thunder are releasing Royal Ivey, Lazar Hayward and Ryan Reid

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 06:05 PM
In all honesty, that wasn't a no-brainer. You basically just traded for Bynum, two backups SFs who wont amount to anything special, Lukes contract, and 2 playoff picks.

scottyboy
03-12-2012, 06:07 PM
not to be sour grapes, but I feel my offer might've been a little better than the Lakers', but it's banking on Bynum, who's the most talented guy the Magic really were gonna get

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 06:10 PM
not to be sour grapes, but I feel my offer might've been a little better than the Lakers', but it's banking on Bynum, who's the most talented guy the Magic really were gonna get

I was offering Brand,Turner, Vucevic, 2 1sts, and taking on Hedos/Jameers contract. Brand would be a expirer after this year, and you get two solid prospects. And my 1st next year could be lotto if Dwight left.

But it dont matter, its ova with now.

scottyboy
03-12-2012, 06:10 PM
I was offering Brand,Turner, Vucevic, 2 1sts, and taking on Hedos/Jameers contract. Brand would be a expirer after this year, and you get two solid prospects. And my 1st next year could be lotto if Dwight left.

But it dont matter, its ova with now.

...that would've been an AWFUL deal for him to make

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 06:42 PM
...that would've been an AWFUL deal for him to make

Please explain. Turner has shown at the end of last year/this year that he has gotten better once he has the ball in his hand, almost averages a doubledouble from a SG position, Vucevic has shown very very good skills for a big and would be Top 10 pick this year if it wasnt for him mightve taken money, and 2 1sts?

Not to mention Brand is playing pretty good. Its just once people hear Brands name they think overpaid (he was for the most part) but since he has been healthy played very well.

Besides, since your keeping Deron, what could you have offered to them besides J.R. Smith 2.0 and Greg Oden 2.0?

fenikz
03-12-2012, 06:46 PM
Sim voting starts in 4 hours and 15 minutes

Wizards, Mavs, Pacers made no changes

and Knicks have been PMed to update their depth chart

predict how each team would do over a 22 game schedule

scottyboy
03-12-2012, 07:49 PM
Please explain. Turner has shown at the end of last year/this year that he has gotten better once he has the ball in his hand, almost averages a doubledouble from a SG position, Vucevic has shown very very good skills for a big and would be Top 10 pick this year if it wasnt for him mightve taken money, and 2 1sts?

Not to mention Brand is playing pretty good. Its just once people hear Brands name they think overpaid (he was for the most part) but since he has been healthy played very well.

Besides, since your keeping Deron, what could you have offered to them besides J.R. Smith 2.0 and Greg Oden 2.0?

J.R. Smith 2.0? Greg oden 2.0? I can safely say I have ZERO clue who you're referring to in those. Turner's an ok guy with upside but he's the main cog in the deal. Vucevic is nothing special at all. Plus, what would those picks be? Nothing very high. And if Dwight left? Why the hell would you even try and rent dwight? If he stays, that's pick like 28. And Brand is simply a contract. If they're trading Dwight, they're rebuilding, especially with what you would've offered. Bynum is WAY better than Vucevic+Turner.

Also, Nets are looking to deal Farmar. Expiring deal, fairly cheap. Looking for a young big or mainly draft picks. Nothing outrageous. Farmar's played surprisingly well this year

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 08:11 PM
10 mil! I should have just done this trade without dealing Aldridge. Oh well, now I can address the draft in a more interesting way.

SeanTaylorRIP
03-12-2012, 08:20 PM
I want to make moves before the deadline!!! Hit me up looking to move Horford.

Docta
03-12-2012, 08:38 PM
Looking to move Boozer. He's yucky.

Wootylicous
03-12-2012, 08:43 PM
Looking to move Kaman or Gordon

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 08:46 PM
Just to clarify, we can trade during the draft correct?

SeanTaylorRIP
03-12-2012, 08:52 PM
looking over proposals for horford feel free to send me any more.

comahan
03-12-2012, 08:54 PM
Blazers should know that the Rockets 1st the Nets have is only theirs if Houston makes the playoffs. I mean, i really should makethe playoffs with a lineup of

Lowry/Dragic, Martin/Lee, Parsons/Williams, Pau/Birdman, Dalembert/Hill

but still.

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 08:59 PM
I do know this. It was more of an extra perk than anything. So I'm indifferent. Just know I think you'll lose in the second round... :)

scottyboy
03-12-2012, 09:00 PM
Blazers should know that the Rockets 1st the Nets have is only theirs if Houston makes the playoffs. I mean, i really should makethe playoffs with a lineup of

Lowry/Dragic, Martin/Lee, Parsons/Williams, Pau/Birdman, Dalembert/Hill

but still.

he does know, but if you DON'T, I'll make it a first for next year.

Also, Nets are very, very, very busy tonight!

EDIT: hold on, Fenikz, trade not official. I sent it to you because i'm pre-occupied. plz don't post it!

SeanTaylorRIP
03-12-2012, 09:30 PM
If you are looking for a backup PG Steve Blake can be had for pretty much anything.

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 09:30 PM
I'm around if anyone wants anyone else from the Magic. Untouchables are Bynum, Anderson, and Redick. Make offers for the older players, particularly J. Richardson!

If you are looking for a backup PG Steve Blake can be had for pretty much anything.

Or Duhon haha

fenikz
03-12-2012, 09:30 PM
hour and 30 minutes left before the deadline

woot answer your PMs

Wootylicous
03-12-2012, 09:31 PM
Yeah I'm just trying to figure out what I like best and I'm having some negotiations right now! I will get back at you

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 09:36 PM
As soon as Zach pm's me back, I'll be done trading. Hopefully my plot comes together.

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 09:44 PM
You took Waltons contract? Wow.

Just wanted to comment on this, there were three reasons I did. First, I had to take some money back somewhere in order to dump Turk's awful deal. Second, its only $6 million for one more year which isn't that bad. Third, if he ever gets healthy and plays, he'd actually be a good fit for Orlando's offense. At the end of the day eating 6 mill for one year didn't seem too bad considering I got young players at all three positions I was asking for (SF, PG, and C).

WMD
03-12-2012, 09:48 PM
We can still amnesty someone riiiight?

SeanTaylorRIP
03-12-2012, 09:51 PM
I'm here until the deadline looking to wheel and deal until the last second, actively in several trade talks.

WMD
03-12-2012, 09:53 PM
Looking to move Stuckey, Tayshaun, Ben Gordon, or Will Bynum. Charlie Villanueva too.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 09:55 PM
J.R. Smith 2.0? Greg oden 2.0? I can safely say I have ZERO clue who you're referring to in those. Turner's an ok guy with upside but he's the main cog in the deal. Vucevic is nothing special at all. Plus, what would those picks be? Nothing very high. And if Dwight left? Why the hell would you even try and rent dwight? If he stays, that's pick like 28. And Brand is simply a contract. If they're trading Dwight, they're rebuilding, especially with what you would've offered. Bynum is WAY better than Vucevic+Turner.

So you dont have a SG who will shoot from anywhere on the floor nor a big who is injury prone?

Why would I try and rent Dwight? Jrue, Monta, Iggy, Amare, Dwight....

Just wanted to comment on this, there were three reasons I did. First, I had to take some money back somewhere in order to dump Turk's awful deal. Second, its only $6 million for one more year which isn't that bad. Third, if he ever gets healthy and plays, he'd actually be a good fit for Orlando's offense. At the end of the day eating 6 mill for one year didn't seem too bad considering I got young players at all three positions I was asking for (SF, PG, and C).

You really didnt need to take back salary to get rid of Dwight though. And Barnes is on a one year deal, will go to a championship winning team, Guildlock isnt a true PG, and Bynums injury prone. Im not saying my trade was better (I over rate the potentials of Turner and Vucevic apparently) but I feel like there couldve been a trade worthwhile more then what you got.

We can still amnesty someone riiiight?

He said wait until offseason.

scottyboy
03-12-2012, 09:57 PM
wait, you're comparing Brook Lopez who's had one injury plagued season to greg oden?

And which SG will shoot from anywhere and doesn't play defense or have a basketball IQ like JR Smith? Please enlighten me and then throw out the horrendous comparison of Brooks to JR.

The Lakers trade was really the best he can get, if Bynum stays healthy

SeanTaylorRIP
03-12-2012, 10:02 PM
The Magic would let D12 walk if they couldnt get a star player, they wouldnt trade D12 just for the sake of trading him, since they could potentially somehow resign him if they didnt trade him, Bynum is one of the few guys thats worth taking a risk as hes the clear #2 center in the nba if he stays healthy, only other guys worth while would have been guys like Rondo, Westbrook, maybe Deng and Noah.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 10:05 PM
wait, you're comparing Brook Lopez who's had one injury plagued season to greg oden?

And which SG will shoot from anywhere and doesn't play defense or have a basketball IQ like JR Smith? Please enlighten me and then throw out the horrendous comparison of Brooks to JR.

The Lakers trade was really the best he can get, if Bynum stays healthy

Im calling it that Brook will not be as healthy as he used to be. Sorry, I should have said that, that was my bad. 7 footers that start to deal with foot/ankle problems tend to get injured more likely and tend to derail careers. Thats the one thing that gets them.

JR Smith doesnt play defense? From the (few,albeit) games I have seen of the Nets, Marshon will shoot just about anything anywhere and barely passes the ball.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 10:06 PM
The Magic would let D12 walk if they couldnt get a star player, they wouldnt trade D12 just for the sake of trading him, since they could potentially somehow resign him if they didnt trade him, Bynum is one of the few guys thats worth taking a risk as hes the clear #2 center in the nba if he stays healthy, only other guys worth while would have been guys like Rondo, Westbrook, maybe Deng and Noah.

Theyve already stated that if they cant bring in someone to keep Dwight happy, he will be traded. Theres less then 5% chance they will stand pat and see if Dwight would remain.

scottyboy
03-12-2012, 10:06 PM
MarShon shoots so much because he has nobody to pass the ball to. JR Smith is an idiot and a chucker. MarShon is a rookie who's the 3rd best player on a dog **** squad. I don't think he's nearly the chucker JR is. But it's all a moot point anyway.

STRIP, just keep me updated on what's been going on

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 10:08 PM
Blazers close to a deal that could put us back in the playoff picture. Stay tuned.

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 10:16 PM
You really didnt need to take back salary to get rid of Dwight though. And Barnes is on a one year deal, will go to a championship winning team, Guildlock isnt a true PG, and Bynums injury prone. Im not saying my trade was better (I over rate the potentials of Turner and Vucevic apparently) but I feel like there couldve been a trade worthwhile more then what you got.


But I needed to take back some money to get rid of Turk, which was something that I had stated all along as a requirement. As STRIP said, I wasn't just trading Dwight for the hell of it, I wanted to get something really good back. Goudelock isn't a true point, that's true, but I don't really have a young, up-and-coming shooting guard either and he's shown potential to be a starter or significant contributor at both. I like Evan Turner but I'm not overly high on Vucevic either. In the end, Bynum was the best player I was offered in any deal and I decided to make the move for him. Barnes has experience with the Magic in the past (he played for us when we went to the finals) and is a good fit for the short term and then expires. Ebanks is at least a young player at a position where I didn't have any youth and has produced better than expected in his very limited opportunities. The draft picks were really a key part of it for me too. At the end of the day I really didn't want to trade Dwight but I took what I considered the best deal.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 10:20 PM
But I needed to take back some money to get rid of Turk, which was something that I had stated all along as a requirement. As STRIP said, I wasn't just trading Dwight for the hell of it, I wanted to get something really good back. Goudelock isn't a true point, that's true, but I don't really have a young, up-and-coming shooting guard either and he's shown potential to be a starter or significant contributor at both. I like Evan Turner but I'm not overly high on Vucevic either. In the end, Bynum was the best player I was offered in any deal and I decided to make the move for him. Barnes has experience with the Magic in the past (he played for us when we went to the finals) and is a good fit for the short term and then expires. Ebanks is at least a young player at a position where I didn't have any youth and has produced better than expected in his very limited opportunities. The draft picks were really a key part of it for me too. At the end of the day I really didn't want to trade Dwight but I took what I considered the best deal.

Ive already said I was over playing the potential of my guys, so its fine haha.

But I dont understand what your trying to do with the Magic. Are you trying to rebuild, or to compete? Jameer, J-Rich, Anderson, Bynum, Barnes can equal a low playoff spot in the East, sad to say. So your basically playing yourself out of lotto, and all your getting are late picks from the Lakers as well.

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 10:27 PM
Ive already said I was over playing the potential of my guys, so its fine haha.

But I dont understand what your trying to do with the Magic. Are you trying to rebuild, or to compete? Jameer, J-Rich, Anderson, Bynum, Barnes can equal a low playoff spot in the East, sad to say. So your basically playing yourself out of lotto, and all your getting are late picks from the Lakers as well.

Yea I know, I wanted to trade more players but nobody seems interested. So I guess I'm re-loading as opposed to rebuilding...

Brodeur
03-12-2012, 10:30 PM
Boywonder, what the **** are you doing?

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 10:32 PM
Yea I know, I wanted to trade more players but nobody seems interested. So I guess I'm re-loading as opposed to rebuilding...

Once you got rid of your one trade chip you wouldnt be able to do anything..

76ers would be willing to take on a player with our 2.5 mil trade exception if you include a pick though.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 10:35 PM
Not gonna lie, this trade with the Trailblazers just gave the me the last piece for my rebuild for the Bobcats.

I pretty much have expirers, Kemba, Bismack, DeMar, and my amnesty still. I have Andre Miller to teach Kemba and others how to be a true professional, but even he wouldn't be able to make the difference from me having the worst pick in the draft. Next years first will still be lotto, but I feel with DeMar giving me a SG who can score, and with enough salary cap room, this offseason can mark the climb of the Bobcats.

Grizzlegom
03-12-2012, 10:35 PM
Once you got rid of your one trade chip you wouldnt be able to do anything..

76ers would be willing to take on a player with our 2.5 mil trade exception if you include a pick though.

I guess I'm guilty of over-valuing J-Rich and Jameer myself. I thought someone would be interested in trading for them as I think they both have very reasonable contracts and are both above average starters at their positions. Yea well, no big deal, I really don't know enough about basketball to make truly informed decisions anyway, just doing this for the fun of it haha.

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 10:37 PM
Boywonder, what the **** are you doing?
Traded for a good young PG, got rid of an injury plagued guy I don't need, I have Matthews and Crawford so I don't need DeRozan, and I got a top 5 pick for next year. The only questionable move is with Aldridge, but as I've said before I just wanted to try something new.

zachsaints52
03-12-2012, 10:39 PM
Can you imagine Davis and Bismack, defensively how dominating that would be once they learn the NBA game?

WMD
03-12-2012, 10:39 PM
Too bad the NBA doesn't allow defense anymore.

Brodeur
03-12-2012, 10:40 PM
Traded for a good young PG, got rid of an injury plagued guy I don't need, I have Matthews and Crawford so I don't need DeRozan, and I got a top 5 pick for next year. The only questionable move is with Aldridge, but as I've said before I just wanted to try something new.

DJ Augustin is very, very far from good.

TheBoyWonder22
03-12-2012, 10:42 PM
DJ Augustin is very, very far from good.
He has potential for sure, and if I can get next year's first pick, I'm not going to pass it up. I don't need DeRozan at all.