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Shiver
03-28-2007, 06:22 PM
According to Adam Schefter, of NFL Network, yes they are.

D-Rod
03-28-2007, 06:34 PM
would be a solid pickup, as long as he is cheap both in picks and in salary...

would presumably allow us to release Webster.

Shiver
03-28-2007, 06:36 PM
Maybe one of our 4th round picks? I would be fine with that. Then the team could cut Jason Webster.

ATLDirtyBirds
03-28-2007, 06:42 PM
^ That would be incredible.

iloxygenil
03-28-2007, 07:42 PM
Okay...4th round pick for DELTHA?! That would be AMAZING!!! I would go NUTS to have that secondary!

Draft King
03-28-2007, 07:45 PM
I like the idea of a 4th for Deltha, not like we could get much better there anyways unless we're lucky.

iloxygenil
03-28-2007, 07:58 PM
I mean I love the prospect of Kenny Scott from Ga Tech in the 4th as well...and Courtney Brown...wow a lot of CBs I want...but all of those guys would be great, even if we traded a 4th for him AND we picked up even both of those guys, we could eliminate Rossy and Webster.

mahnee
03-28-2007, 08:14 PM
I mean I love the prospect of Kenny Scott from Ga Tech in the 4th as well

Or how about we pick him up in the 5th? Maybe Tech can start producing prospects that continuously go under the radar, get drafted in the 5th, and excel in the NFL two years in a row. Interesting. Think that would help Tech Nation steal some recruits from UGA???

iloxygenil
03-28-2007, 08:42 PM
I would love for the ACC to steal top recruits from the overrated SEC.

PalmerToCJ
03-29-2007, 01:00 PM
Do you all still see this as a possibility given the move of Williams to CB #2?

The only way I would do it (from a Bengals standpoint) is for a 3rd, not to say he's worth that but mostly because if we trade him then we must start a rookie CB from day one and we lose depth. If we could manage a 3rd then it would be worth it to me, if I was the Falcons I wouldn't give up a 3rd for him.

Severe Punishment
03-29-2007, 01:02 PM
Sounds to me , like this would indicate ,Atlanta has all but given up on Landry falling to them at 8.

Shiver
03-29-2007, 01:05 PM
I think Deltha O'Neal would do two things;

1. He would push Jimmy Williams, which is always a good thing to never let a young guy have the job by default.

2. It would allow the team to cut Jason Webster, which is A-Ok, in my books.

LonghornsLegend
03-29-2007, 01:12 PM
maybe its more indictive of them feeling comfortable with jimmy at safety, with 2 good corners....


as much as i would of loved to see landry in ATL, i dont think he makes it to 8 for some reason, now if he were id still take him even with o neal, but jimmy is the wildcard, its nice to have those types of guys, help out in areas of need

*EDIT*


I just saw the sticky where jimmy will be CB, good move with him losing weight

Shiver
03-29-2007, 01:15 PM
maybe its more indictive of them feeling comfortable with jimmy at safety, with 2 good corners....


as much as i would of loved to see landry in ATL, i dont think he makes it to 8 for some reason, now if he were id still take him even with o neal, but jimmy is the wildcard, its nice to have those types of guys, help out in areas of need

No, because Bobby Petrino named Jimmy Williams as the starting corner yesterday. I have the article up, stickied, if you want to read it.

LonghornsLegend
03-29-2007, 01:17 PM
No, because Bobby Petrino named Jimmy Williams as the starting corner yesterday. I have the article up, stickied, if you want to read it.

yea i just edited, i saw it late my bad....


so do you think even if they land o neal they still go safety to complete the secondary...landry if he is there of course, but do you think nelson at 8 is a reach?


still not sure if petrino would want to address safety or DE first, or it may depend on who is there

Shiver
03-29-2007, 01:19 PM
According to Adam Schefter, every other NFL team in the top-10 is convinced Atlanta is enamored with Laron Landry. If that's the case, with so many extra picks, Atlanta may leapfrog Minnesota to get him.

Shiver
03-29-2007, 01:27 PM
o'neal... webster must've been absolutely awful if you want to replace him with deltha.

Unfortunately, yes it is. Webster is a strange combination of small, and still really slow. The only coverage he can do sit back ten yards off the receiver, and tackle the receiver after they make a eight yard catch on a slant route. Not only that, he's grossly overpaid, and constantly injured.

He is, hands down, the most hated Falcon.

LonghornsLegend
03-29-2007, 01:28 PM
According to Adam Schefter, every other NFL team in the top-10 is convinced Atlanta is enamored with Laron Landry. If that's the case, with so many extra picks, Atlanta may leapfrog Minnesota to get him.

i think he's a great pick, but i think it might be worth it tryingn something similiar to taking anderson with the 8th, and trading up to take merriweather early 2nd if he's around....it wouldnt take much, since he might be close to ending up a 2nd rd pick as well....


of course it could go both ways, but i think you get better value since merriweather would obviously be higher if not for character and anderson could be the most talented DE to take, although im not sure if he would start opposite abrahams, or spell him

Severe Punishment
03-29-2007, 01:39 PM
According to Adam Schefter, every other NFL team in the top-10 is convinced Atlanta is enamored with Laron Landry. If that's the case, with so many extra picks, Atlanta may leapfrog Minnesota to get him.
I believe it'd be a perfect case scenario should Landry fall to 7 that Mn and Atl swap picks. We're desperate IMO to pick up some extra's on day 1.

If not (and the Falcons stay put) I could see Levi Brown getting called when Atlanta picks.

Achilles33
03-29-2007, 02:10 PM
That would be a solid value. Plus a back-up plan if Jimmy Williams ends up switching to safety in later years. I like him at CB though, and I am glad they made the desicion to keep him there.

bigfanga
03-29-2007, 02:23 PM
Remember that Deltha has experience returning kicks so that's another feather in his cap, Falcon-wise.

Honestly, though, I remember seeing that Deltha was named recently in the Bengals offseason moves. I thought he was cut, but probably it was something about his tender offer. So...I assume he was tendered at the lowest level, am I right?

I'd love to get Deltha at the right price just to provide depth and allow the Falcons to release Webster & Rossum.

mahnee
03-29-2007, 02:36 PM
Anything's an improvement over Webster's overpaid @$$. Do you guys really want Rossum gone that bad?? I mean he's horrible in coverage, but he's a great return man. I'm just a little partial to him because I always have him on my Fantasy team

iloxygenil
03-29-2007, 02:46 PM
Any word on anything? I'd like to see if this is just a buncha bologna or not.

Shiver
03-29-2007, 02:50 PM
Well Adam Schefter is usually money. He said we were trying to trade for him, not that it would happen at any specific time.

iloxygenil
03-29-2007, 03:46 PM
Alright, just wanted to know what was being talked about for picks and compensation.

ATLDirtyBirds
03-29-2007, 06:52 PM
http://www.newerascouting.com/index.php?c=10

I could definately live with Deltha for a 3rd.

PalmerToCJ
03-29-2007, 08:51 PM
I'm all for Deltha for your 3rd. He was in Marvin's doghouse last year for what Marvin perceived as a work ethic problem and he thought he wasn't fighting through an injury. He said the selfishness of some players kept us out of the playoffs and we all feel it was Deltha he was talking about.

Last year Deltha had problems with health and just never got on track. He got burned deep a few times and gave up his fair share of receptions.

HOWEVER, in '05 he was AMAZING. Like glue to the WR's, the best season by a CB in Cincinnati since probably Ashley Ambrose. He was an amazing cover CB and made some big plays for us, I honestly don't remember him getting burned at all that year.

I still think he can recover from his struggles in '06 and become a more than adequate #2 CB (obviously way better than Webster lol). I think for the simple fact that we'll probably draft a new CB this year and his problems with Marvin (this only came up this year) that it's just time for him to move on. Hopefully the deal goes through and works out for both parties.

Shiver
03-29-2007, 10:32 PM
What does this mean for Jimmy Williams? I don't think we'd trade a 3rd round pick for a NCB.

Bengals78
03-29-2007, 10:38 PM
http://www.newerascouting.com/index.php?c=10

I could definately live with Deltha for a 3rd.

yeah i could too.

DraftMichaelHuff
03-30-2007, 01:55 AM
i would not like this trade unless its a day 2 pick and even a 4th i would be pissed about.

In my opinion Deltha is over-rated, we have a guy who was named the starter 2 days ago, already signed a seasoned vet NCB, and have picks in the 4th and 5th rounds which is blessed with freakish athletes perfect for the #4 CB role, Courtney Brown, Anthony Arline, Kenny Scott, Jonathan Wade to name a few

DONT DO IT

Aftermath
03-30-2007, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the 3rd rounder :)

Now we draft a CB in round 1 and maybe Weddle in round 2 and have a young secondary for years.

Shiver
03-31-2007, 09:36 PM
ESPN said the Deltha O'Neal/Falcons trade rumors were bogus.

iloxygenil
04-01-2007, 10:55 PM
Well, I was excited til I heard it was for a 3rd rounder...a 4th for him would be great.