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Grizzlegom
03-13-2012, 02:54 PM
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Major scoopage! The Chicago Bears have agreed to terms of a trade w Miami for pro bowl WR Brandon Marshall in exchange for 2 third-rounders.

Razor
03-13-2012, 02:54 PM
That's effing crazy! Whatever it takes to get Manning I suppose...

Brent
03-13-2012, 02:55 PM
BB's head is going to explode

A Perfect Score
03-13-2012, 02:56 PM
I can't say I understand this in the slightest, but it just reminds me why I love the NFL so much.

LTgiants
03-13-2012, 02:57 PM
Cutler and Marshall together again.

Complex
03-13-2012, 02:57 PM
Hmm interesting don't know how to feel

San Diego Chicken
03-13-2012, 02:58 PM
If this means they can't sign Williams or Jackson it's a really stupid trade for Chicago. Great news for the Chargers though, our chances of bringing back V-Jax just went up quite a bit.

vidae
03-13-2012, 02:58 PM
That is ridiculous. I can't believe the Dolphins traded away their only legit receiving threat.

mightytitan9
03-13-2012, 02:58 PM
I'm happy for Bmarsh

A Perfect Score
03-13-2012, 02:59 PM
Sooooo I guess they think they can get Justin Blackmon at 8? Michael Floyd seems very similar to Brandon Marshall, no idea why they'd toss him out just to draft Floyd.

SuperPacker
03-13-2012, 02:59 PM
This is great for the Bears IMO and terrible for the Dolphins.

WMD
03-13-2012, 03:00 PM
Why Miami?

Wootylicous
03-13-2012, 03:00 PM
It's on nfl.com seems legit. Great trade for the Bears

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 03:00 PM
The dolphins must like someone in the draft or in free agency.

WMD
03-13-2012, 03:01 PM
I'll just assume they cleared that #1 WR spot for Reggie Wayne, in order to make Peyton want to sign.. but that's a pretty dumb idea.

San Diego Chicken
03-13-2012, 03:01 PM
Why Miami?

I suspect this has something to do with Manning.

Monomach
03-13-2012, 03:03 PM
**** AND YES!

Pretty much the best case scenario for the Bears. He already has chemistry with Cutler, they like each other just fine in the locker room, and we didn't overpay. In fact, we underpaid.

asdf1223
03-13-2012, 03:04 PM
Even then trading away Brandon Marshall just to get another guy in the draft is dumb. Reminds me of when Seattle traded Julian Peterson to take Aaron Curry at No.4. Worked out very well for us. :njx:

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 03:05 PM
Well maybe with the money that Brandon Marshall was making, they can sign a FA WR and also nab a WR in the draft.

Contract:
Signed a five-year, $47.3 million contract. The deal contains $24 million guaranteed, including a $5.5 million signing bonus, a second-year roster bonus of $3 million, and $6 million of Marshall's 2012 salary barring a league suspension in the first three years. 2012: $9.3 million, 2013-2014: $9.1 million,

Thats a lot of money tied up in only one receiving threat, and with so many receivers in the draft and in FA, this might not be a bad move by the dolphins.

Edit:
And if this is what make Manning sign with them, this isn't a bad move for them at all.

I'd assume they add Manning, Clark, and Wayne, probably someone else in FA or the draft at WR.

Grizzlegom
03-13-2012, 03:06 PM
I suspect this has something to do with Manning.

That's the thought coming from Miami beat guys. Go sign Wayne now, one last major push for Manning.

jrdrylie
03-13-2012, 03:07 PM
Cutler and Marshall together again.

http://images.wikia.com/funnypic/images/7/78/Fap_Guy.jpg

San Diego Chicken
03-13-2012, 03:11 PM
Marshall's still a good player, but not as good as he was a few years ago. Plus he's not exactly the red-zone threat that Chicago needs. I'm biased but I'd rather have VJ at that cap number, or Lloyd at a lower cap number.

ATLDirtyBirds
03-13-2012, 03:11 PM
What an awful trade by Miami. **** you Miami.

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 03:11 PM
oh wait, i thought it was two second round draft picks...wow, 2 3rd's...uhh

Iamcanadian
03-13-2012, 03:12 PM
I'll just assume they cleared that #1 WR spot for Reggie Wayne, in order to make Peyton want to sign.. but that's a pretty dumb idea.

I think there are 2 reasons, 1) your right on about Wayne and maybe Garcon as well. 2) Marshall is a cancer in the dressing room and Manning was making it clear, he wouldn't sign with him on the team.

bearsfan_51
03-13-2012, 03:13 PM
http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/eddie-murphy-gi.jpg

bearsfan_51
03-13-2012, 03:14 PM
My guess is that the Bears balked at Vincent Jackson's asking price. Word is that the Bucs are the real leader.

Monomach
03-13-2012, 03:14 PM
Marshall's still a good player, but not as good as he was a few years ago. Plus he's not exactly the red-zone threat that Chicago needs. I'm biased but I'd rather have VJ at that cap number, or Lloyd at a lower cap number.

1200 yards with two QBs worse than Cutler throwing to him.

I think we'll be jusssssssst fine, thank you.

yo123
03-13-2012, 03:15 PM
I've never been a big Brandon Marshall fan, but for that price it's pretty hard to argue it was a steal for Chicago. Can't say I really understand where Miami is going with this one.

bearsfan_51
03-13-2012, 03:16 PM
9 mil a year is a lot for Marshall, but Vincent Jackson will make more than that.

Also worth noting that the Bears have (had) two thirds this year, so they still have a full draft in 2012.

Quagmire
03-13-2012, 03:16 PM
I think there are 2 reasons, 1) your right on about Wayne and maybe Garcon as well. 2) Marshall is a cancer in the dressing room and Manning was making it clear, he wouldn't sign with him on the team.

Totally agree. No room for diva receivers... Philbin came from GB where everyone shut up and did their job. He was not going to fit...

Diehard
03-13-2012, 03:17 PM
1200 yards with two QBs worse than Cutler throwing to him.

I think we'll be jusssssssst fine, thank you.

As we saw in Denver, the Cutler to Marshall connection can light it up. I think this is a great deal for Chicago *if* they can keep Marshall's head in the game and his personal problems off the front page.

As for Miami, I suspect this a new coach wanting to clean up the locker room culture.

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 03:17 PM
Holy crap...if Miami signs the Colts offense...

Complex
03-13-2012, 03:18 PM
No one else wanted Marshall?

Grizzlegom
03-13-2012, 03:18 PM
He's also still one minor infraction away from a year-long suspension. That + his contract are why he's a risk for Chicago and why Miami couldn't get more in return. Also think its funny that some are suggesting this means Manning to Miami is less likely, all indications are that this HELPS the case of Manning to Miami.

bearsfan_51
03-13-2012, 03:19 PM
No one else wanted Marshall?
He was on the market just two years ago and the Broncos got two 2nd round picks. This is a drop in value, but he's not any better than he was two years ago.

BoneKrusher
03-13-2012, 03:19 PM
this trade was made to help their Chances of landing Peyton because the Phins are signing Wayne.

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 03:20 PM
9 mil a year is a lot for Marshall, but Vincent Jackson will make more than that.

Also worth noting that the Bears have (had) two thirds this year, so they still have a full draft in 2012.

Filed to ESPN: Dolphins trade WR Brandon Marshall to Bears for 3rd-round pick in 2012 and 3rd-round pick in 2013. Marshall rejoins Cutler.

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Mufasa
03-13-2012, 03:23 PM
No way I'm buying that they did this just for Peyton Manning. Maybe Manning didn't want to play with him, but the Dolphins probably wanted to get rid of Marshall regardless. If they wanted to keep him if Manning said no then they would have waited for Manning to give them a full commitment first.

The high salary and bad attitude has to be the reason behind this.

Splat
03-13-2012, 03:24 PM
What if Miami doesn't get Wayne or Peyton?

vidae
03-13-2012, 03:26 PM
http://undergroundsportsnetwork.net/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/emery_original_crop_340x234.jpg

How am I doin guys?

Grizzlegom
03-13-2012, 03:26 PM
What if Miami doesn't get Wayne or Peyton?

Brian Hartline and Davone Bess rock the NFL world.

georgiafan
03-13-2012, 03:34 PM
I dont think its as bad deal as everyone makes it out to be for the dolphins. Marshall seems to be a problem off the field, drops alot of passes, makes big money. Also the phins will be able to bring in 2 quality players. The only thing i wonder is why they didnt get the other 3rd from this year?

Da-Phins
03-13-2012, 03:36 PM
Dolphins better have something good up there sleeves. If it opens the doors for Manning and a few of his teammates then I'm all for it. Be a failure otherwise.

Mufasa
03-13-2012, 03:39 PM
Well I guess the good news for rival fans is that this completely squashes the Mario Williams rumors.

According to this (http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-team-cap-space/), the Bears had $23.5 million in cap space. Brandon Marshall will make $9.3 million next year. That takes them down to $12.2 million, which is less than Williams alone will get in his first year. Plus they'll still have to sign draft picks and probably will pick up a few free agents. Unless they have some big money players they can cut, Mario Williams aint happening. I'd much rather add Brandon Marshall to the division than Mario.

zachsaints52
03-13-2012, 03:39 PM
They are moving Reggie to WR so his rating will go up to a 88. I do it on Madden all the time.

Ness
03-13-2012, 03:45 PM
Well I guess the good news for rival fans is that this completely squashes the Mario Williams rumors.

According to this (http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-team-cap-space/), the Bears had $23.5 million in cap space. Brandon Marshall will make $9.3 million next year. That takes them down to $12.2 million, which is less than Williams alone will get in his first year. Plus they'll still have to sign draft picks and probably will pick up a few free agents. Unless they have some big money players they can cut, Mario Williams aint happening. I'd much rather add Brandon Marshall to the division than Mario.

Will the Bears have needed a wide receiver for years. This was an offer they couldn't refuse.

toonsterwu
03-13-2012, 03:47 PM
Fairly happy with this move. Don't think there's that big a difference between Marshall and Vincent Jackson, and the cost was fine (particularly when you factor in that he's signed down for 3 more years at 27 mil and change). This gives them a bit more flexibility with their remaining dollars. I'm not expecting another big ticket item, but rather, several smaller additions, perhaps at TE, DE (never bought the Mario rumors, but wonder about a guy like Mincey), CB, and maybe OL if the price is right.

Complex
03-13-2012, 03:48 PM
wrong thread again.

Complex
03-13-2012, 03:48 PM
wrong thread

Bert Macklin
03-13-2012, 03:58 PM
Damn now Matt Flynn ain't gonna have **** to throw to.

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 03:59 PM
Imagine what Manning could do for Reggie's career. Itll finally be bigger than Kim's ass

Brothgar
03-13-2012, 04:04 PM
DAMNIT! The Bears are going to be beastly.

Da-Phins
03-13-2012, 04:08 PM
Miami media saying that something is in the works and to be patient, so we'll see the reason behind trading him soon....

K Train
03-13-2012, 04:10 PM
takes chicago out of the wallace running :-(


that would be the lowest pick i would want for him aside from the rams and browns. this makes it look more likely that wallace will be a bengal/raven/patriot/niner

D-Unit
03-13-2012, 04:13 PM
Stop acting surprised. It's the Dolphins people.

zachsaints52
03-13-2012, 04:14 PM
Didnt they trade for him for 2 2nds? So they downgraded picks and got rid of their one WR that was above average. It has to be Peyton.

Da-Phins
03-13-2012, 04:15 PM
Stop acting surprised. It's the Dolphins people.

Shut up! :(

Brothgar
03-13-2012, 04:18 PM
Miami media saying that something is in the works and to be patient, so we'll see the reason behind trading him soon....

I'm guessing it has something to do with Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne.

bucfan12
03-13-2012, 04:21 PM
After his pro bowl showing, I think he could have been worth more than 2 3rd round picks.

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 04:24 PM
After his pro bowl showing, I think he could have been worth more than 2 3rd round picks.

the pro bowl is a joke...

Matthew Jones
03-13-2012, 04:25 PM
Nice deal for Miami. Regardless of who Miami's next quarterback is, I'm not sure putting up with the headache is worth it. Bears fans should be excited as well.

regoob2
03-13-2012, 04:27 PM
BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!!

What a great trade!

Mufasa
03-13-2012, 04:27 PM
the pro bowl is a joke...

Ugh, why do people have to say this dumb **** every time. Marshall put up 1200 yards and 6 TDs, that's his point.

Do undeserving players get to the Pro Bowl? Yes, we all know that. Marshall had a good year though so there's no reason that needs to be said.

regoob2
03-13-2012, 04:28 PM
takes chicago out of the wallace running :-(


that would be the lowest pick i would want for him aside from the rams and browns. this makes it look more likely that wallace will be a bengal/raven/patriot/niner
They were never in that running. We wouldnt trade the #19 and have to pay him.

BaLLiN
03-13-2012, 04:35 PM
After his pro bowl showing, I think he could have been worth more than 2 3rd round picks.

Ugh, why do people have to say this dumb **** every time. Marshall put up 1200 yards and 6 TDs, that's his point.

Do undeserving players get to the Pro Bowl? Yes, we all know that. Marshall had a good year though so there's no reason that needs to be said.

He was referring to his pro bowl showing, not the fact that he got in the pro bowl. It is a joke, its glorified flag football with half ass coverage. That was clearly not his point, where in there did he refer to Marshall's season?

K Train
03-13-2012, 04:42 PM
They were never in that running. We wouldnt trade the #19 and have to pay him.

i was just kinda looking at WR needy teams, wallace is the youngest of the WRs available and cutler has the arm to get him the ball deep, seemed like a good fit, and rather than draft a WR they could have had wallace who is already established.

just wishful thinking

yo123
03-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Ugh, why do people have to say this dumb **** every time. Marshall put up 1200 yards and 6 TDs, that's his point.

Do undeserving players get to the Pro Bowl? Yes, we all know that. Marshall had a good year though so there's no reason that needs to be said.

He's talking about his actual pro bowl performance, which he's right is completely and 100% meaningless.

ChiFan24
03-13-2012, 05:37 PM
Well I guess the good news for rival fans is that this completely squashes the Mario Williams rumors.

According to this (http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-team-cap-space/), the Bears had $23.5 million in cap space. Brandon Marshall will make $9.3 million next year. That takes them down to $12.2 million, which is less than Williams alone will get in his first year. Plus they'll still have to sign draft picks and probably will pick up a few free agents. Unless they have some big money players they can cut, Mario Williams aint happening. I'd much rather add Brandon Marshall to the division than Mario.


I don't think this takes us out of the Williams running. I mean.....it's really, really easy to create cap space and structure contracts in a way to maintain it. Not to mention, I'm not too sure that 23.5 mill is accurate. I've read we were pushing 30 million. If the Bears want Mario, I don't think it will be a problem to pay him, it's just a matter of how willing we are to meet his demands.

Also.....23.5-9.3 = 14.2

descendency
03-13-2012, 05:42 PM
Miami loses 2 2nd rounders for him and Chicago is going to lose their sanity.

Gay Ork Wang
03-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Im happy :>

ryno626
03-13-2012, 06:40 PM
I don't think this takes us out of the Williams running. I mean.....it's really, really easy to create cap space and structure contracts in a way to maintain it. Not to mention, I'm not too sure that 23.5 mill is accurate. I've read we were pushing 30 million. If the Bears want Mario, I don't think it will be a problem to pay him, it's just a matter of how willing we are to meet his demands.

Also.....23.5-9.3 = 14.2

Does that include Matt Forte's franchise tag of 7.7 million?

ChiFan24
03-13-2012, 06:44 PM
Does that include Matt Forte's franchise tag of 7.7 million?

Damn it. In my head I was factoring in a possible contract extension and I left out the fact that he was already tagged. So that 23 mill number makes a lot more sense. My point stands though.

Regardless, it sounds like Mario is probably a Bill, which makes sense to me. I think we go after Kam Wimbley.

Paul
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
I think there are 2 reasons, 1) your right on about Wayne and maybe Garcon as well. 2) Marshall is a cancer in the dressing room and Manning was making it clear, he wouldn't sign with him on the team.

NFL becomes more pussified

Complex
03-13-2012, 06:59 PM
Miami media saying that something is in the works and to be patient, so we'll see the reason behind trading him soon....

So what is the reason?

Rosebud
03-13-2012, 07:09 PM
Big move for the Bears. With Marshall, Bennett, Knox and Hester, Cutler will be scary good next year. Hope they can address the OL in FA.

shylo3716
03-13-2012, 07:25 PM
I am all for it, now he free's up my boi Devin Hester on 9 routes ALL game long.

http://beargoggleson.com/files/2010/09/Hester-great-1-handed-grab.jpg

LonghornsLegend
03-13-2012, 07:27 PM
Cutler & Marshall together are gonna make sweet sweet music on the field. At that price, it's a steal and a HUGE addition to their team. Yet for some reason all I can think about is how much better they would be with Greg Olson. So this is my question:


Why in the hell do GM's, or Head Coaches for that matter, let coordinators make personnel decisions that affect the team long term? Nobody wanted Olson gone except Martz, so who gives him the green light to trade him away for scraps?


I get it. Guys have a system, want to run it and run it with their type of guys, but it's pretty ridiculous you would let a coordinator come in that you knew wasn't here for the long haul, let make a big decision like that. Regardless of his offense, you would have a hard time explaining to me how it would hinder him having a guy as talented as him out there.


I just have never understood this, and I guess I never will. But great move for the Bears, this is 10x better then signing V Jax for whatever he'll cost. I wonder if they have enough left to land Mario Williams, that is going to elevate them to SB contender pretty easily if they can afford it.

regoob2
03-13-2012, 07:38 PM
I am all for it, now he free's up my boi Devin Hester on 9 routes ALL game long.

http://beargoggleson.com/files/2010/09/Hester-great-1-handed-grab.jpg
Your boy sucks.

niel89
03-13-2012, 07:50 PM
For the Bears is a great trade. Get a #1 WR who is a big friendly former target for your QB. The Dolphins unload a expensive headcase and get a pair of 3rd rounders. Strong move to help the Bears offense, but I'm not going to act like Marshal has no drawbacks.

Gay Ork Wang
03-13-2012, 08:35 PM
Cutler & Marshall together are gonna make sweet sweet music on the field. At that price, it's a steal and a HUGE addition to their team. Yet for some reason all I can think about is how much better they would be with Greg Olson. So this is my question:


Why in the hell do GM's, or Head Coaches for that matter, let coordinators make personnel decisions that affect the team long term? Nobody wanted Olson gone except Martz, so who gives him the green light to trade him away for scraps?


I get it. Guys have a system, want to run it and run it with their type of guys, but it's pretty ridiculous you would let a coordinator come in that you knew wasn't here for the long haul, let make a big decision like that. Regardless of his offense, you would have a hard time explaining to me how it would hinder him having a guy as talented as him out there.


I just have never understood this, and I guess I never will. But great move for the Bears, this is 10x better then signing V Jax for whatever he'll cost. I wonder if they have enough left to land Mario Williams, that is going to elevate them to SB contender pretty easily if they can afford it.
Greg Olsen was not that good.

ImBrotherCain
03-13-2012, 08:52 PM
Greg Olsen was not that good.

I hope Matt Spaeth treats you well then :njx:

regoob2
03-13-2012, 08:59 PM
I hope Matt Spaeth treats you well then :njx:

Olsen was a solid player but never played up to his potential. He lack of short area quickness hurt him and rendered him more of a deep threat. He also was a poor blocker. He wasnt multi dimensional. He was a solid player for us but to get a 3rd for him when he was also in the final year of his contract was good for us.

Gay Ork Wang
03-13-2012, 09:00 PM
He also had some easy drops from time to time.

ChiFan24
03-13-2012, 09:11 PM
I hope Matt Spaeth treats you well then :njx:

We could sign John Carlson tomorrow and the downgrade wouldn't be enough to warrant passing on a high third round pick + cap space. Which, btw, we used to get Marshall. As much as a I liked Olsen, he's replaceable.

bearsfan_51
03-13-2012, 09:15 PM
I really liked Olsen, but people make far too big of a deal out of that trade. Olsen isn't the difference between being a contending team or not.

Da-Phins
03-13-2012, 11:04 PM
He also had some easy drops from time to time.

And a major headache at times(both on and off the field) but him teaming up with Cutler again will do him some good. Those guys are BFF for life.

Diehard
03-13-2012, 11:10 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/179781108907515904


Bears WR Brandon Marshall was involved in another incident that could lead to an NFL review. More shortly at http://ESPN.com.


Pure class, that guy.

Da-Phins
03-13-2012, 11:11 PM
Bears WR Brandon Marshall was involved in another incident that could lead to an NFL review. More shortly at http://ESPN.com.

Oh boy.....

Maybe it was a good thing we did trade Marshall regardless if it helps bring in Manning or not(doubt it though).

703SKINS202
03-13-2012, 11:18 PM
Yup, Phins must have known about it no?

Bengals78
03-13-2012, 11:18 PM
THIS IS A PURE OUTRAGE!!!!
How can there be a bad character guy and he isn't being mocked/drafted/traded/signed to the Bengals!!!! Call Goodell cancel this trade immediately!!!!!!

Mufasa
03-13-2012, 11:19 PM
Oh boy.....

Maybe it was a good thing we did trade Marshall regardless if it helps bring in Manning or not(doubt it though).

Well if it's something serious there's probably a possibility it could void the trade

Bengals78
03-13-2012, 11:19 PM
Yup, Phins must have known about it no?

Im guessing the Bears did too.
Or else I suspect Goodell might not like the Phins withholding info like that

703SKINS202
03-13-2012, 11:20 PM
Im guessing the Bears did too.
Or else I suspect Goodell might not like the Phins withholding info like that
Yea, makes me wonder if both teams have an idea of how long a potential suspension might be. Guess the Bears weren't overly concerned.

SFbear
03-13-2012, 11:21 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/179781108907515904



Pure class, that guy.

This is starting to make more sense...

jackalope
03-13-2012, 11:34 PM
NFL.com has an article on how the Bears now have the best offense in the NFC North.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82796081/article/qbrbwr-trio-provides-bears-with-potent-and-balanced-punch?module=HP11_cp

3. Mike Tice will emerge as an offensive mastermind with the talent at his disposal.

Rosebud
03-13-2012, 11:46 PM
NFL.com has an article on how the Bears now have the best offense in the NFC North.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82796081/article/qbrbwr-trio-provides-bears-with-potent-and-balanced-punch?module=HP11_cp

I love me some Cutler but that line's just amazing.

SFbear
03-13-2012, 11:59 PM
From Jay Glazer's twitter

Statement from Brandon Marshalls Attorney Harvey Steinberg regarding Club incident:

"On March 12,2012 Brandon Marshall was the key note speaker at a charitable event in New York. After the event was over he, his wife and close friends attended a function at a local club.
While at the function a fight broke out NOT involving Mr. Marshall or his friends. While attempting to leave to avoid the melee Mrs. Marshall was struck in the face by a thrown bottle. She suffered serious injury.
While attempting to leave and take his wife to the hospital, the mayhem continued outside. Finally Mr. Marshall was able to take his wife to the hospital where she was treated for serious injuries.
Mr. Marshall is hoping to assist authorities in regards to this matter."

J255979-11nine
03-14-2012, 12:14 AM
From Jay Glazer's twitter

Statement from Brandon Marshalls Attorney Harvey Steinberg regarding Club incident:

"On March 12,2012 Brandon Marshall was the key note speaker at a charitable event in New York. After the event was over he, his wife and close friends attended a function at a local club.
While at the function a fight broke out NOT involving Mr. Marshall or his friends. While attempting to leave to avoid the melee Mrs. Marshall was struck in the face by a thrown bottle. She suffered serious injury.
While attempting to leave and take his wife to the hospital, the mayhem continued outside. Finally Mr. Marshall was able to take his wife to the hospital where she was treated for serious injuries.
Mr. Marshall is hoping to assist authorities in regards to this matter."


He "accidentally the whole bottle" and it was his fist that hit his wife.

Marino13
03-14-2012, 12:36 AM
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/nfl_receiver_marshall_slugs_woman_Ad0Ydwu0KcuIXf8P iXfiIO

BeerBaron
03-14-2012, 06:06 AM
Yeah, that fight thing is annoying.

Still, we got a big WR who works well with Cutler. We'll deal with it.

Shane P. Hallam
03-14-2012, 06:21 AM
Yeah, that fight thing is annoying.

Still, we got a big WR who works well with Cutler. We'll deal with it.

Annoyingly suspendable perhaps!

BeerBaron
03-14-2012, 06:29 AM
Annoyingly suspendable perhaps!

Still be 12 more games than we had a worthwhile receiver last year.

Grizzlegom
03-14-2012, 07:03 AM
Still be 12 more games than we had a worthwhile receiver last year.

With his past, it's thought he'll be suspended for a full season with his next infraction. Something Miami was always very worried about.

BeerBaron
03-14-2012, 07:07 AM
With his past, it's thought he'll be suspended for a full season with his next infraction. Something Miami was always very worried about.

His last suspension was 1 game. If Big Ben got 4 for what he supposedly did, I can't see Marshall getting a full year.

I'd be more annoyed if we suddenly voided this trade because of this.

Shane P. Hallam
03-14-2012, 07:07 AM
"Marshall Contract clause guaranteeing 6M of his 9.3M base is voided if he is suspended by NFL"

WCH
03-14-2012, 07:19 AM
His last suspension was 1 game. If Big Ben got 4 for what he supposedly did, I can't see Marshall getting a full year.

I'd be more annoyed if we suddenly voided this trade because of this.

I agree. The guy is obviously a jerk, doesn't seem to like women very much, and people seem to think it's a good idea to try to kill him. With all of that being said, he really hasn't done anything that I think really justifies a year-long suspension.

Then again, Goodell may be looking to come down on him for his possible role in escalating **** on the night that Darrent Williams was killed.

BeerBaron
03-14-2012, 07:27 AM
Goodell is also frying some bigger fish around the league right now. At absolute worst, I'm expecting something like 6 games reduced to 4 if he stays out of trouble, much like Ben a few years ago. And hopefully not even that.

Plus, in the last 2 years, the Bears went 11-5 then 7-3 with Cutler healthy despite crap on the o-line, crap at WR and an offensive coordinator who did not play anyone to their strengths. Being without Marshall for any length of time would suck, but we could probably survive it. He'd still to participate in offseason activities and the preseason and has previous experience playing with Cutler.

It would suck, but I think we could survive.

FUNBUNCHER
03-14-2012, 07:34 AM
Poor Jay Cutler just can't catch a break.

WCH
03-14-2012, 07:45 AM
It would suck, but I think we could survive.

Yeah, 4-6 games is nothing, really. As a Packer fan, I was sad to hear about the trade. I think that with a legit #1 WR, the entire unit could step it up a notch. I think you guys have two or three legit #2 WRs who were forced to try to be #1's.

Also, Jay Cutler has personally seen the good and the bad of Brandon Marshall, and he presumably supported the trade. That has to say something good about Marshall.

Grizzlegom
03-14-2012, 07:47 AM
His last suspension was 1 game. If Big Ben got 4 for what he supposedly did, I can't see Marshall getting a full year.

I'd be more annoyed if we suddenly voided this trade because of this.

Yea, idk how Goodell decides these things, I'm just saying that was the feeling around Miami. Who knows, maybe the attorney is right and he didn't hit anyone and he won't be suspended. I just know that many felt he would be getting a year-long ban next time he messed up. I hope for the Bears sake that's not the case.

WCH
03-14-2012, 07:48 AM
Yea, idk how Goodell decides these things,

I'm pretty sure that he makes it up as he goes along.

bigbluedefense
03-14-2012, 08:05 AM
Brandon Marshall is a giant turd and a ticking time bomb. Miami was wise to get rid of him before it was too late.

At this point I'm thinking Miami got the better end of the deal. We're talking about a WR with borderline personality disorder, frequent run ins with the law regarding domestic abuse, his wife almost killed him, he has a diva attitude, he's probably going to get suspended and rightfully so.

How is he worth it? You want good WRs Chicago? Draft one. You don't need this garbage. This is his 3rd team for a reason. Fool me once, shame on me...

senormysterioso
03-14-2012, 08:09 AM
Every time I watch a Dolphins game I see Marshall drop about 4 passes. As a Packers fan I hope this continues, but for the bears sake I hope he remembers how to catch.

TitleTown088
03-14-2012, 08:17 AM
Goodell is also frying some bigger fish around the league right now. At absolute worst, I'm expecting something like 6 games reduced to 4 if he stays out of trouble, much like Ben a few years ago. And hopefully not even that.



A repeat offender who has a history with violence allegedly punched a women in the face. That's a big fish to fry at any time, homeslice.

Also, "hopefully not even that"? You don't think IF he punched a girl he should be suspended more than 4 games? I think one should be implying hopefully he didn't punch a women, not that he hopefully gets a weak punishment despite punching a women.

WCH
03-14-2012, 08:26 AM
How is he worth it? You want good WRs Chicago? Draft one. You don't need this garbage. This is his 3rd team for a reason. Fool me once, shame on me...

When was the last time that the Bears were able to draft a #1 WR?

BeerBaron
03-14-2012, 08:28 AM
A repeat offender who has a history with violence allegedly punched a women in the face. That's a big fish to fry at any time, homeslice.

Also, "hopefully not even that"? You don't think IF he punched a girl he should be suspended more than 4 games? I think one should be implying hopefully he didn't punch a women, not that he hopefully gets a weak punishment despite punching a women.

I say "hopefully not even that" because I'm hoping the story is what his attorney said, which wouldn't put him in any trouble.

When was the last time that the Bears were able to draft a #1 WR?

Never. It has never happened.

703SKINS202
03-14-2012, 04:42 PM
I have a feeling if the Redskins gave two third rounders for Marshall we would get completely mocked by Bears fans.

regoob2
03-14-2012, 04:47 PM
I have a feeling if the Redskins gave two third rounders for Marshall we would get completely mocked by Bears fans.

Why? (ten char)

GaMeTiMe
03-14-2012, 04:48 PM
The character issues are there, but I think he can really be a true #1 NFL receiver when he wants to be. He'll be driven in Chicago with Cutler on a playoff team.

703SKINS202
03-14-2012, 04:55 PM
Why? (ten char)
Because of his personality and past plus everything that has been mentioned about a possible suspension. I know they didn't know until after they made the trade but I still think it was a lot to give up for Marshall.

jrdrylie
03-14-2012, 04:56 PM
When was the last time that the Bears were able to draft a #1 WR?

The last three receivers they have drafted in the first round have two 1000 yard seasons. Marty Booker is the closest thing we've had to a number one receiver in my life and he sucks.

703SKINS202
03-14-2012, 04:58 PM
The last three receivers they have drafted in the first round have two 1000 yard seasons. Marty Booker is the closest thing we've had to a number one receiver in my life and he sucks.
Doesn't mean you can't draft one ever again.

bearsfan_51
03-14-2012, 05:09 PM
I have a feeling if the Redskins gave two third rounders for Marshall we would get completely mocked by Bears fans.
That's because your franchise is run by morons; it's a safe bet to bet against them.

703SKINS202
03-14-2012, 05:19 PM
That's because your franchise is run by morons; it's a safe bet to bet against them.
I'm not looking for Redskins sympathy, trust me. I just think it's funny that Bears fans think their only resort to finding a WR is trading 2 third rounders for someone with borderline personality disorder.

And yes our front office gave $21 mil to a #2 WR, I get it.

regoob2
03-14-2012, 06:09 PM
Because of his personality and past plus everything that has been mentioned about a possible suspension. I know they didn't know until after they made the trade but I still think it was a lot to give up for Marshall.

It's not a lot at all. 2 3rds for an elite #1 receiver with decent contract is great value. Yes he has the off field issues but we dont even know if this one is true.

bearsfan_51
03-14-2012, 06:12 PM
People on draft boards always overrate late-round picks; anything past the first two rounds are usually depth or busts. For every one late-round pick that makes the pro bowl, another 10 are out of the league in a few years.

Rosebud
03-14-2012, 06:44 PM
People on draft boards always overrate late-round picks; anything past the first two rounds are usually depth or busts. For every one late-round pick that makes the pro bowl, another 10 are out of the league in a few years.

The third is a good place for good teams to get high upside depth guys to polish into eventual starters. Yeah it's not going to turn a bad team around, but I'd say that for good teams that need to keep replenishing their depth that the first 3 rounds are important, after that you're looking at long shots and special teamers.

Monomach
03-14-2012, 06:58 PM
I'm not looking for Redskins sympathy, trust me. I just think it's funny that Bears fans think their only resort to finding a WR is trading 2 third rounders for someone with borderline personality disorder.

And yes our front office gave $21 mil to a #2 WR, I get it.

Two third rounders for a three-time pro bowler in the prime of his career. We'll live.

Bucs_Rule
03-14-2012, 06:59 PM
It's not a lot at all. 2 3rds for an elite #1 receiver with decent contract is great value. Yes he has the off field issues but we dont even know if this one is true.

Head cases like Marshall can cause problems for the development of young QBs. That's probably why they shipped him off, knowing they weren't likely to get Manning.

Marshall won't give Cutler any problems like that.

LonghornsLegend
03-14-2012, 07:14 PM
I'm not looking for Redskins sympathy, trust me. I just think it's funny that Bears fans think their only resort to finding a WR is trading 2 third rounders for someone with borderline personality disorder.

And yes our front office gave $21 mil to a #2 WR, I get it.

I find it even funnier that a Skins fan is trying to chastise another front office for trading away picks. That's even more lollzz. Two 3rd round picks for a guy who has consistently gotten over 100 catches and 1100 yards? Matched back up with the QB he thrived with? Yea, Chicago is so stupid. /sarcasm



That and he's only 27. Yes he does have issues, none of which you would have a problem with if you guys had done the trade. You could have traded two 2nd's and you'd probably be stoked to hell, but it's more fun to chastise another team for getting a steal when your two starting WR's are average #3 guys signed to FA contracts.

regoob2
03-14-2012, 07:16 PM
Head cases like Marshall can cause problems for the development of young QBs. That's probably why they shipped him off, knowing they weren't likely to get Manning.

Marshall won't give Cutler any problems like that.

I agree. I think it's a good trade for both teams.

bigbluedefense
03-14-2012, 08:23 PM
Marshall's problems are more off the field than on the field.

And how many times does a guy have to get accused of hitting a woman before we realize where there's smoke there's fire? 1 woman, fine, she was golddiggin, 2 woman, ok maybe, maybe you didn't learn your lesson the first time.

But what is this, like the 4th time this happened? Come on. He's a turd.

Hurricane Ditka
03-15-2012, 12:49 AM
Probably the best move the Bears could have made this offseason. Lest we forget the New York Post is not exactly known for their journalistic integrity. Even if he misses 4 games or so this year, he's still the best receiver the Bears have ever had.

So for it's worth they have the best quarterback and the best receiver they've had in a generation.

Bengalsrocket
03-15-2012, 02:09 AM
On one hand, I feel like the Bears recently gave up a lot of picks for Cutler, and giving up 2 more for Marshall could jeopardize their depth in the next 2-3 years. However, the Bears need a legit receiver and 2 third round picks for Marshall is a nice steal.

HeavyLeggedWaistBender
03-15-2012, 02:48 PM
^ -__-

3 picks and Kyle Orton got us Cutler and Johnny Knox. Which would be the absolute most you could ask for with those 3. And mind you, KO was not even the guy you see now. Plus we couldn't draft worth **** at the time. Just sayin.'

703SKINS202
03-15-2012, 05:26 PM
I find it even funnier that a Skins fan is trying to chastise another front office for trading away picks. That's even more lollzz. Two 3rd round picks for a guy who has consistently gotten over 100 catches and 1100 yards? Matched back up with the QB he thrived with? Yea, Chicago is so stupid. /sarcasm



That and he's only 27. Yes he does have issues, none of which you would have a problem with if you guys had done the trade. You could have traded two 2nd's and you'd probably be stoked to hell, but it's more fun to chastise another team for getting a steal when your two starting WR's are average #3 guys signed to FA contracts.
^this (10 char)