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D-Unit
03-21-2012, 06:16 PM
- TRADE -

Dallas sends:
Round 1 (14) - NE drafts Michael Brockers.

New England sends:
Round 1 (27)
Round 2 (31)


Round 1, Pick 27 (From New England)
- C/OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin -

Height: 6-3 7/8
Weight: 314
Speed: 5.37
Arm: 32 3/4
Hand: 10 1/4
Wingspan: 80 1/2

http://pfw.s3.amazonaws.com/prospects/actionshot_463277.jpg

Upside:
• Excellent mass and girth — thick-bodied and wide-shouldered
• Midwestern work ethic
• Tough, smart and competitive
• Superb weight-room and functional playing strength
• Good grip strength to lock up, steer and control
• Plays on his feet with balance

Downside:
• Lumbers some on the move and can be stressed by quickness
• Labors to connect with a moving target on the second level
• Can do a better job gauging his power, striking with more power
• Tends to grab and hold more than strike and reload punch
• Has a history of ankle injuries

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/kevin-zeitler-70/

After trading down the Cowboys elect to take this versatile interior lineman. Zeitler has all the makings of a future Pro Bowler who could start from Day 1 and play for the next decade. The same thing you'd expect from DeCastro except without the overrated hype and the high draft pick expense. Zeitler is all substance and I can see him being our opening day starting Center or Guard. His overpowering style of play and experience with a run-heavy, pro-style system make him a perfect fit for Callahan's scheme. The thought in my mind is that the position battle would come down to who is the better Guard and Center between Zeitler and Bernadeau with the lean on Zeitler at C.

Must Watch:

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Trogdor
03-21-2012, 06:22 PM
:yes: Sounds good so far.

pocketaces
03-21-2012, 06:41 PM
I want D. This would not be a good move IMO

D-Unit
03-21-2012, 06:45 PM
I want D. This would not be a good move IMO
I feel ya.... I'm not gonna ignore it.

CowboysBeastMode
03-21-2012, 07:24 PM
i got much respect for ya D-unit, but boo we need defense LOL

D-Unit
03-21-2012, 07:54 PM
i got much respect for ya D-unit, but boo we need defense LOL
I gotta admit, this particular pick is also based off my hunch on where I think the Cowboys might go, so it has a bit of a prediction bias to it. Personally, I want HEAVY defense. The rest of the draft will show that though.

D-Unit
03-21-2012, 07:54 PM
Round 2, Pick 16
- SS Antonio Allen, South Carolina -

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/486/969/125478499_display_image.jpg

Height: 6-1 1/2
Weight: 210
Speed: 4.64
Arm: 32 1/2
Hand: 9 3/8
Wingspan: 77 7/8

Upside:
Good size and speed
Flashes playmaking ability
Good tackle strength to generate pop
Productive special-teams performer
Energetic, competitive
Leader by example

Downside:
Stiff hips
Not natural pedaling
See-and-go reactor
Average ball skills
Takes questionable angles in pursuit
Inconsistent tackler
Could struggle grasping pro concepts

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/antonio-allen-26/

I think in order to secure his services, that some team is going to have to draft him in the 2nd round to do so. I have a gut feeling that NFL offices are higher on him than most mock drafters out there, who are more comfortable putting him in the 3rd round. But pop in his tape and all he does is make game changing plays all the time. Just a tremendously smart player with excellent instincts and awareness. He's incredible in pursuit whether chasing down the ball carrier or honing down on the ball while it's in the air. When it comes down to it, you want the guy who will perform on the field before the guy who looks like he could perform on the field. With the way Rob Ryan loves his DBs to blitz, we could be the one team to reach for him since Allen is a force at the line of scrimmage as evidenced by 10.5 TFL in 2010 and 8.5 TFL in 2011. He may not be a name brand prospect like "Dre Kirkpatrick" but I feel he is a better Safety prospect and that this a better spot in this particular draft to pick a Safety that can be a part of our Safety rotation and eventually supplant Brodney Pool at SS.

Must Watch:

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leroyisgod
03-21-2012, 08:03 PM
I have to say I've never heard his name really being mentioned anywhere, but the highlight real was impressive. I'd much rather address DL before Safety.

D-Unit
03-21-2012, 08:55 PM
I have to say I've never heard his name really being mentioned anywhere, but the highlight real was impressive. I'd much rather address DL before Safety.
I've actually been talking about him since the beginning of the college season... when I was doing those quacky weekly outstanding performer reports... lol

Week 1
CB Shaun Prater, Iowa - 5'10, 185
FS John Boyett, Oregon - 5'10 202
SS Winston Guy, Kentucky - 6'1, 216
ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College - 6'2, 237
FS Jerrell Young, USF - 6'1, 209

Week 2
DE Melvin Ingram, South Carolina - 6'2, 276
SS Antonio Allen, South Carolina - 6'2, 201
FS Mark Barron, Alabama - 6'2 218
CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama - 6'2, 192
CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama - 5'10, 182

Week 3
ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College - 6'2, 237
SS Antonio Allen, South Carolina - 6'2, 201
FS Javon Harris, Oklahoma - 5'11, 207
OG Omoregie Uzzi, Georgia Tech - 6'3", 300
OG Barrett Jones, Alabama - 6'4 312

Week 4
QB Robert Griffin III, Baylor - 6'2, 220*
CB Casey Hayward, Vanderbilt - 5'11, 188
FS Bacarri Rambo, Georgia - 6'0, 218*
CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama - 6'2, 192*
OG Barrett Jones, Alabama - 6'4 312*

Week 5
Matt Barkley, USC - 6'2, 220*
SS Antonio Allen, South Carolina - 6'2, 201
FS TJ McDonald, USC - 6'2, 205*
CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama - 5'10, 182
DE Melvin Ingram, South Carolina - 6'2, 276

Week 6
Too busy to do.

The Fab 5 - Week 7

RB Trent Richardson, Alabama, 5-11, 244*

http://nflsoup.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Trent-Richardson-2011.jpg

Winner of the SEC OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK Award. Richardson makes the Fab 5 list for the first time with his career-high 183 yards on just 17 carries and career-high 4 TD game against Mississippi. He also added 2 catches for 30 yards. Richardson has now tied a school-record and leads the nation with 6 straight 100-yard rushing games. Now ranks 10th all-time at Alabama with 2,363 career rushing yards. Leads the SEC and ranks 4th in the nation with 130.3 rushing yards per game and 3rd in the nation in scoring with a whopping16 total touchdowns.


DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi St - 6'4, 295*

http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics32/640/TF/TFZZZFJLHAZFSPU.20111017154652.jpg

Winner of the SEC DEFENSIVE LINEMAN OF THE WEEK for the 2nd week in a row! Fletcher Cox posted a career-best 4 TFLs and a pair of sacks in Mississippi State's 14-12 loss to South Carolina. He was credited with 6 total tackles, second most in his career behind only the previous weekend's 7 total stops (vs. UAB). Cox led a defensive front that held USC to a season-low 110 yards on 43 rushing attempts and the SEC's leading rusher Marcus Lattimore to 39 yards on 17 attempts. The previous week, when Cox won this same award, he posted 7 total tackles, including 5 solo stops, in Mississippi State’s 21-3 victory over UAB. He was a presence in the UAB offensive backfield for most of the game, credited with 5 quarterback pressures. Cox leads a defensive front that has not allowed a touchdown in its last six quarters - a total of 20 opponent possessions. - SEC football


CB Morris Claiborne, LSU, 6'0, 185*

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Morris+Claiborne+LSU+v+Mississippi+State+k2dNehcgx JRl.jpg

Claiborne returned an interception 89 yards and also had 2 pass deflections and 2 tackles against Tennessee. Claiborne has risen his stock sky high this season with his excellent play thus far. I heard Kiper on the radio yesterday raving about him being the best corner in the nation. I bet you can just imagine his voice praising Claiborne. lol. Honestly, he could be long gone by the time we pick, so don't get your hopes up too much.


FS Bacarri Rambo, Georgia - 6'0, 218*

http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/files/2011/09/RamboSaye.jpg

Making a 2nd Fab 5 appearance! Rambo had a team-high 8 total tackles (4 solos) with an interception and two pass deflections against Vanderbilt. He was all over the place! This Bulldog is proving to be quite the playmaker and ballhawk. If things continue, I expect his draft stock to rise and in turn see him declare for the draft as a Junior.


OG Chance Warmack, Alabama - 6'3, 320*

http://media.al.com/birmingham-news/photo/9964748-standard.jpg

I've given a lot of love to Warmack's teammate Barrett Jones, but Warmack is no slouch himself. Winner of the SEC OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE Award went to Warmack who had the top grade on the Alabama offensive line with no penalties, no pressures, no missed assignments and no sacks with five pancake blocks against Ole Miss.



He has a bunch of videos that I liked. Here's some:

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You start to see how much of an impact he has in games... Not one to be invisible for sure.

Trogdor
03-22-2012, 07:22 AM
:unlove:

Wooaah D. Reaching for a hybrid LB/SS who made a ton of highlight plays (... his position accounts for a lot of that) in a pass happy NFL. I wouldn't touch Allen with a ten foot pole thanks to his piss-poor ability to play the pass. I think you're being extremely generous with "average" ball skills unless you are saying "average" for a collegiate linebacker :P

I hate the source but the impression is exactly on:

A physical in the box type player who doesn't key overly well. Isn't an NFL caliber pass defender either and looks more like a very average old school type strong safety.

Not the type of player we need in our secondary. If you want to reach on a safety make it a rangy centerfielder (Martin perhaps?).

pocketaces
03-22-2012, 08:53 AM
:unlove:

Wooaah D. Reaching for a hybrid LB/SS who made a ton of highlight plays (... his position accounts for a lot of that) in a pass happy NFL. I wouldn't touch Allen with a ten foot pole thanks to his piss-poor ability to play the pass. I think you're being extremely generous with "average" ball skills unless you are saying "average" for a collegiate linebacker :P

I hate the source but the impression is exactly on:



Not the type of player we need in our secondary. If you want to reach on a safety make it a rangy centerfielder (Martin perhaps?).

Yeah, I agree. D is a little off his game with this Mock. His pre FA draft was MUCH better. :confuse:

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 11:29 AM
Ha ha. I appreciate the responses. Please keep them coming. I did read that report on Allen before. It may be spot on (or not) and I realize he's an excellent in-the-box safety but I don't think I'm just gonna take that quote as doctrine as I have actually been following Allen myself all season long.

Besides in our defense I think there is a role for a player like Allen. We saw how Barry Church was used as a hybrid S/LB. Rob loves versatility, good tacklers, blitzing from his DBs and I really don't think Allen is a bad coverage guy at all. Even though we often hear that our safeties need to be interchangeable, I wouldn't imagine him in packages as the lone FS and last line of defense. Allen would play SS and I think he would be a damn good one, ultimately serving as Pool's replacement.

leroyisgod
03-22-2012, 11:32 AM
Ha ha. I appreciate the responses. I did read that report on Allen before. It may be spot on (or not) and I realize he's an excellent in-the-box safety but I don't think I'm just gonna take that quote as doctrine as I have actually been following Allen myself all season long.

Besides in our defense I think there is a role for a player like Allen. We saw how Barry Church was used as a hybrid S/LB. Rob loves versatility, good tacklers, blitzing from his DBs and I really don't think Allen is a bad coverage guy at all. Even though we often hear that our safeties need to be interchangeable, I wouldn't imagine him in packages as the lone FS and last line of defense. Allen would play SS and I think he would be a damn good one, ultimately serving as Pool's replacement.

Why not let Barry Church continue to develop in that role and use a 2nd round pick on a DE or OLB prospect where we could use the help more right now?

Trogdor
03-22-2012, 11:40 AM
Why not let Barry Church continue to develop in that role and use a 2nd round pick on a DE or OLB prospect where we could use the help more right now?

Also add in that Barry Church was essentially playing ILB in those formations which you can't blame Ryan considering it was him or throwing two old vets that couldn't cover anyone (Brookings and James). Now that we have Connor and a fully healthy Carter I doubt it's a valued positional trait.

He's a mega project regardless of the end position and I just highly question the value.

Go Cowboys
03-22-2012, 12:21 PM
:unlove:

Wooaah D. Reaching for a hybrid LB/SS who made a ton of highlight plays (... his position accounts for a lot of that) in a pass happy NFL. I wouldn't touch Allen with a ten foot pole thanks to his piss-poor ability to play the pass. I think you're being extremely generous with "average" ball skills unless you are saying "average" for a collegiate linebacker :P

I hate the source but the impression is exactly on:



Not the type of player we need in our secondary. If you want to reach on a safety make it a rangy centerfielder (Martin perhaps?).

I would just point to what Darren Woodson was in college, maybe we get lucky and Allen turns into that?

Witten4HOF
03-22-2012, 01:02 PM
I would just point to what Darren Woodson was in college, maybe we get lucky and Allen turns into that?


Not ony was Woodson a rare exception, the league has definitely trended more toward spread offenses since he retired and the NFL has instituted rule changes limiting the amount of contact a defender can make with a WR.

Traditional SS are being phased out of the league, the need for in the box run support has been trumped by the coverage ability.

CDCB14
03-22-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm in the majority here. I don't mean to be hard on you D-Unit but Allen at 45 is just an atrocious pick. He will probably be there in the 4th and is no different than Barry Church. It's the same concept as passing on Janoris Jenkins because Scandrick is the same exact player. I do like his playmaking ability and knack for being around the ball, but he has physical limitations in todays NFL and again would provide nothing different from Church and even Bobby McCray. He probably wouldn't even do much more than McCray, and you want spent a top 50 pick on him?

This pick would be like that Raiders pick a few years ago when they took a safety in the second round from I think Ohio who was regarded as an undrafted free agent.

Also, people keep taking about Pool as a strong safety and this would be his replacement.. you know Sensabaugh is our SS right? That's his natural position. Pool is playing FS. And since Sensabaugh just a got a 5 year deal, drafting Allen with a high second rounder would just be pointless. You can't start both of them because they can't cover and Sensabaugh is starting with that new deal.

There will be a player of much better quality at 45. I know a lot of people are joking when they say they would break something if they pick this guy or that guy, but if we picked Antonio Allen in the top 50 I would seriously find something and break it lol.

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 02:14 PM
I don't mind the criticism at all. In fact, I welcome it. There are a lot of folks that I love in the 2nd round. I think it's filthy rich with talent. I made a note in the pick that I think draftniks are lower on Allen than I think NFL teams are, and that is part of my reasoning for taking him here. I knew this pick wouldn't be appreciated by all, but at the same time, I don't think he would last to us in the 3rd, so this pick is admittingly a little early for him. I don't neccessarily care about that though. If a team likes a guy and he's within range of not being there when they are on the clock again, then I have no problems seeing them go there.

I think a lot of people have jumped to conclusion that just because he is a strong in-the-box player that they can't believe he can be good in coverage. That's not really true. He had a lot of experience covering TEs and slot WRs at Carolina. It's not really surprising to read that NFL teams are intrigued with his versatility.

Rotoworld.com:
"Allen says the Bears like him "a lot" at linebacker while the Jaguars mentioned cornerback. This is a bit surprising because Allen is not a liability in coverage but works best in the box as a strong safety. With incredible length (32 1/2" arms), Allen flashed the ability to cover athletic tight ends in college and at the Senior Bowl. His intriguing skill set will lead many to evaluate Allen as a hybrid-type safety with versatility."

SI Senior Bowl coverage:
- S Antonio Allen of South Carolina has flashed skill all day. He's a very sudden player that jumps out of nowhere to make plays. Allen is also a vicous hitter. He just needs to show more consistency against the pass, but you can tell he has the underlying skills.

Oh and as far as Dan Connor's arrival spelling the end to our linebacker coverage issues... I hope that was light-hearted comment. :njx:

With Rob Ryan's adoration for players who can play multiple positions, I had to find a way to get Antonio Allen into this particular mock.

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 02:23 PM
Round 2, Pick 31 (From New England)
- OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia -

http://fauxbruceirvin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/bruceirvin.jpg

Upside:
Rare speed, burst
Explosive take-off
Can bend and trim the corner
Plays hard, flattens down the line
Outstanding closing speed
Sack production

Downside:
Lacks bulk and base strength to anchor
Relies too much on his speed few moves
Can be engulfed and controlled
Never has been a full-time starter
Average instincts

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/bruce-irvin-11/

His arrest might have distanced other teams, but there isn't another OLB in this draft that we need more because of his jaw dropping speed, energy and change of direction skills. He blew out his peers when he ran a 4.43 forty at the combine and tested out as one of the very best athletes at the entire combine. In a division where the Cowboys will face Vick and RG3 twice a year, Irvin's got the suddeness and quick reactionary coordination skills to track down those elusive QBs. It'd be a wise decision to scoop him up before Round 3 starts... because players with these skills shouldn't even be here. One private team visit would be all that's needed to clear the air about his character/personality/commitment to football.

Must Watch:

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CDCB14
03-22-2012, 02:31 PM
I like the Irvin. I didn't really think about his speed being an asset with Vick and RGIII in our division which is a good point.

As for the Jaguars talking to Allen about being a cornerback... is that a joke lol? Good marketing by him though, makes it sound like his coverage skills are a lot better than they actually are. Oh, and 32 1/2 inch arms isn't incredible lol that's slightly above average if above average at all.

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 02:50 PM
I like the Irvin. I didn't really think about his speed being an asset with Vick and RGIII in our division which is a good point.

As for the Jaguars talking to Allen about being a cornerback... is that a joke lol? Good marketing by him though, makes it sound like his coverage skills are a lot better than they actually are. Oh, and 32 1/2 inch arms isn't incredible lol that's slightly above average if above average at all.
Eli is pretty elusive too even though he's not a running QB, he's very slippery.

As for Allen at CB? If you think JAX would use him as a fulltime CB, you'd probably be reading into that too much. Basically he's versatile. I wouldn't throw out the idea that his coverage skills are bad, just because he played the Spur at S.Carolina. He's made plenty of plays in coverage with and without his back to the QB. Facing the ball... he knows what to do.

...and it's not just the words out of his mouth...

"INDIANAPOLIS – South Carolina defensive back Antonio Allen was told by multiple teams at the NFL Combine that they could see him playing safety, cornerback, or perhaps even linebacker in the NFL."

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Cornerbacks-remain-in-demand/8a4683f9-e6f4-45ee-bdbc-33dbbdd3733a

Trogdor
03-22-2012, 04:20 PM
I didn't say Connor excelled in coverage in fact all through the discussion thread I was the nay-sayer in that he was mediocre in coverage and not the "Starting MLB" that other pegged him as :)

As a fellow PSU grad I'd say I'm pretty objective when it comes to our guys :D

I was just explaining that the reason you saw so much of Church at ILB was out of necessity (our aging ILBs couldn't cover) and not one out of preference IMHO.

I do like Irvin as an athlete but he'd be wedged as a backup to Ware as there is no way he'd be able to anchor and play Spencer's spot. I think he'll excel as a 3rd down rusher though as he gains bulk.

Biggest question... Right kind of guy? If he passes the interview then it's a value pick but I wonder if he even has a chance.

:( This also looks like a nail in my Jake Bequette hope for this mock xD

Witten4HOF
03-22-2012, 05:20 PM
I didn't say Connor excelled in coverage in fact all through the discussion thread I was the nay-sayer in that he was mediocre in coverage and not the "Starting MLB" that other pegged him as :)

As a fellow PSU grad I'd say I'm pretty objective when it comes to our guys :D

I was just explaining that the reason you saw so much of Church at ILB was out of necessity (our aging ILBs couldn't cover) and not one out of preference IMHO.

I do like Irvin as an athlete but he'd be wedged as a backup to Ware as there is no way he'd be able to anchor and play Spencer's spot. I think he'll excel as a 3rd down rusher though as he gains bulk.

Biggest question... Right kind of guy? If he passes the interview then it's a value pick but I wonder if he even has a chance.

:( This also looks like a nail in my Jake Bequette hope for this mock xD

I don't know if Ryan needs a true strong side linebacker in his scheme... he is always moving players around and Ware sees his fair share of time on that side of the field. I could even see Irvin getting a little package at SAM in 3rd and long situations.

I just dont know if JG would sign off on a guy that cant keep his nose clean, in the third round I think he is well worth the risk though =)

Trogdor
03-22-2012, 05:24 PM
I don't know if Ryan needs a true strong side linebacker in his scheme... he is always moving players around and Ware sees his fair share of time on that side of the field. I could even see Irvin getting a little package at SAM in 3rd and long situations.

I just dont know if JG would sign off on a guy that cant keep his nose clean, in the third round I think he is well worth the risk though =)

Agreed on JG. But on defense you can't have two guys rushing all-out on the outside or you have zero sustain. Dangerous against mobile QBs and draws / counters. I do agree with the notion that Irvin would have a place (mentioned 3rd down rusher in my post) but I think his ability to take the field other than as a pass-rush specialist would be extremely minimal.

His talent vs draft pick is going to be a steal it's just a matter of a team trusting him to leave his baggage behind. It was admirable that he kept his nose clean after his upbringing but the last incident showed it is not completely repressed.

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 05:51 PM
I don't know if Ryan needs a true strong side linebacker in his scheme... he is always moving players around and Ware sees his fair share of time on that side of the field. I could even see Irvin getting a little package at SAM in 3rd and long situations.

I just dont know if JG would sign off on a guy that cant keep his nose clean, in the third round I think he is well worth the risk though =)
2nd to the last pick in the 3rd too! :)

We're talking Robert Brewster, Jason Williams, James Marten range. lol. It's worth the risk. I do think he's got plenty of room to fill out. You could even tell at the combine that he was bigger than he was during the season. As for the character... I think Garrett would care more about that on the offensive side of the ball, especially if Ryan gave his endorsement (total assumption on whether he'd like Irvin though).

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 05:59 PM
Agreed on JG. But on defense you can't have two guys rushing all-out on the outside or you have zero sustain. Dangerous against mobile QBs and draws / counters. I do agree with the notion that Irvin would have a place (mentioned 3rd down rusher in my post) but I think his ability to take the field other than as a pass-rush specialist would be extremely minimal.

His talent vs draft pick is going to be a steal it's just a matter of a team trusting him to leave his baggage behind. It was admirable that he kept his nose clean after his upbringing but the last incident showed it is not completely repressed.
If he had been caught for drugs that'd be one thing (he probably wouldn't get drafted), but a broken sign just tells me the guy has natural born animal aggression. Gotta like that! lol.

He has room to fill. Ware weighed all of 256 pounds at the combine. These guys can be molded into form. Picking up enough good weight to be a better run stuffer is not hard...but as they say... you can't teach speed.

Pass rushing is also one of the easiest translatable skills between college and the pros. Good sack artists in college tend to be good sack artists in the NFL.

You can absolutely have 2 OLBs rushing the passer, so I don't think it will be hard to find plays for Irvin. Having a good SS like Antonio Allen would do wonders for covering the TE or RB out of the backfield. ;)

D-Unit
03-22-2012, 06:18 PM
Round 3, Pick 19
- DE Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati -

http://pfw.s3.amazonaws.com/prospects/actionshot_448254.jpg

Height: 6-5 1/8
Weight: 295
Speed: 4.98
Arm: 33 1/4
Hand: 10 3/4
Wingspan: 80 1/4

Upside:
• Productive
• Big frame
• Has core strength to occupy single blocks
• Pushes the pocket and has active legs
• Good eyes, instincts
• Leadership traits and pro work ethic

Downside:
• Average quickness, athleticism, flexibility
• Plays short-armed
• Needs to improve hand use
• Can play with better leverage
• Questionable two-gap ability

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/derek-wolfe-95/

In reality, there's no reason why he's here other than the fact that he chose the wrong Ohio school to go to. Had he gone to Ohio St, we'd be talking about a Top 20 pick here. Wolfe has the intensity and nasty on field demeanor you want in the trenches, and his production is down right scary. 70 tackles, 37 TFL and 19.5 sacks in his (basically 3 year) career. We'd need to nab him here in order to secure his selection. He won't last to us in the 4th. You didn't like seeing me pass up on DE earlier in the draft, I know, but I feel this is a safe spot to assume Wolfe would be available and I just LOVE this player and the value. Arguably has the same upside as any at this position in the draft. Comparable to JJ Watt.

Must watch:

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TheFinisher
03-22-2012, 08:41 PM
Derek Wolfe? yay!

I wanted Watt BAD last year, but Wolfe would be a nice consolation price. I love high motor guys at DE, and I can picture Derek being an emotional leader here for a long time. He's the kind of guy who may not be a perennial pro bowler, but his style of play will be contagious among those around him.

leroyisgod
03-23-2012, 07:36 AM
I'll take Wolfe here. Gets us a guy that goes in the the DE rotation and someone that can push for more PT.

D-Unit
03-23-2012, 01:55 PM
Round 4, Pick 18
- FS Josh Norman, Coastal Carolina -

http://profootballzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ccu-normanlatest-e1323997547587-300x298.jpg

Height: 6-0 1/4
Weight: 197
Speed: 4.61
Arm: 32 3/4
Hand: 9 1/4
Wingspan: 78 1/2

Upside:
Outstanding size
Highly athletic
Flexible hips
Reads and reacts
48 passes defended
High-points; has soft hands to snatch INTs
Makes acrobatic plays on the ball

Downside:
Has to fill out frame
Takes some questionable angles
Struggles to break down (poor body control as a tackler)
Questionable aptitude
Inflated self opinion

http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/josh-norman-24/

4.66 wasn't quite the number that Josh was hoping for as a sleeper CB prospect from a small school. But that speed at his size (6'1, 197), is fine for a transition to Free Safety. Very raw and unproven, but when he's in competition with his peers, he easily stands out. Could use the time behind Sensy to develop, but now is the time to groom someone as AOA has washed out. Enjoy this clip. Josh Norman is one of my favorite sleepers this year. With the future of SS Antonio Allen and FS Josh Norman, the Cowboys have the look that makes me tingle inside.

Must watch:

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HEISMANHERSCHEL
03-26-2012, 08:03 AM
I think this mock is really pretty solid.

I do hate Allen in the second, but getting a starting center and a great risk/reward player at OLB and not being out of the second round yet? I think that is a great start.

I would agree with the previous posts, though. Allen is a project player at a position that is being phased out at the NFL level. I have no confidence in him. But stranger things have happened, and to bring in s top level Center and OLB along with a pretty good project player that might be able to do multiple things on defense? Great job as far as I am concerned.

antwanboldin
04-01-2012, 04:48 AM
Started off slow but got wise

Get familiar w/ the trade value chart and that could be remedied

jojo
04-09-2012, 09:06 PM
Just as long as they don't trade down out the 1st rd ......again.

Jimmy Johnson did that yr. after yr. & it drove me effing nuts!! I will start throwing inanimate objects at my TV screen if they do.

They need to to stay in the 1st & address actual NEEDS!! They struck solid gold with Tyrion Smith last draft, they can do it again. I am firm in my belief that this is the best orgn. in pro FB, & can still extract the talent from the gold mine.

Smith will be playing OLT next yr. btw, it's time to find a true center or an oG who can PLAY center -- the interior OL needs to be addressed, it's time. I don't five a flying eff what rd, just find me the next Wiesniewski.

cmd34
04-12-2012, 01:55 PM
Really like the Zeitler, Irvin, and Wolfe picks. Antonio Allen pick in the 2nd would probably cost me a TV.

As far as Norman, not sure what I think of him, love his speed and potential, but I'm sick of being the team to gamble on small school corners only to lose that gamble. Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12 corners get tested every week by pass-happy offenses. Who did Norman (Josh Thomas, Akwasi Owusi-Ansah, Courtney Brown, Kareem Larrimore, etc) ever shutdown in college on a consistent basis.

Overall I think your mock would have made the Cowboys better but I'd be pissed (can we semi-cuss here?) about the Antonio Allen pick. Not to mention he's another Strong Safety and we have an abundance of step-slow Strong Safeties already IMO.

D-Unit
04-12-2012, 02:10 PM
Really like the Zeitler, Irvin, and Wolfe picks. Antonio Allen pick in the 2nd would probably cost me a TV.

As far as Norman, not sure what I think of him, love his speed and potential, but I'm sick of being the team to gamble on small school corners only to lose that gamble. Big 12, SEC, and Pac 12 corners get tested every week by pass-happy offenses. Who did Norman (Josh Thomas, Akwasi Owusi-Ansah, Courtney Brown, Kareem Larrimore, etc) ever shutdown in college on a consistent basis.

Overall I think your mock would have made the Cowboys better but I'd be pissed (can we semi-cuss here?) about the Antonio Allen pick. Not to mention he's another Strong Safety and we have an abundance of step-slow Strong Safeties already IMO.
Sure, we can discuss Antonio Allen. I love his knack for making big plays. I think it's more than coincidence/luck. He is a SS type for sure, but I liken him to a Troy Polamalu type. So I wouldn't group him in the same breath as Gerald Sensabaugh or Brodney Pool. With the way Rob loves to send his Safeties in to blitz, I think Allen is the prototype player to fit his scheme. Allen is versatile too. Rob could line him up anywhere from CB, LB or S. Not many players like that in the draft... much less those who could do it well.

I'll say this... I'd rather have Allen than Barron any day of the week.

primetime217
04-12-2012, 03:22 PM
Sure, we can discuss Antonio Allen. I love his knack for making big plays. I think it's more than coincidence/luck. He is a SS type for sure, but I liken him to a Troy Polamalu type. So I wouldn't group him in the same breath as Gerald Sensabaugh or Brodney Pool. With the way Rob loves to send his Safeties in to blitz, I think Allen is the prototype player to fit his scheme. Allen is versatile too. Rob could line him up anywhere from CB, LB or S. Not many players like that in the draft... much less those who could do it well.

I'll say this... I'd rather have Allen than Barron any day of the week.

Pretty BOLD statement. Going to be interesting to see in the next few years. I disagree with you, but I appreciate a bold statements like this.

D-Ware Nightmare
04-12-2012, 10:42 PM
Sure, we can discuss Antonio Allen. I love his knack for making big plays. I think it's more than coincidence/luck. He is a SS type for sure, but I liken him to a Troy Polamalu type. So I wouldn't group him in the same breath as Gerald Sensabaugh or Brodney Pool. With the way Rob loves to send his Safeties in to blitz, I think Allen is the prototype player to fit his scheme. Allen is versatile too. Rob could line him up anywhere from CB, LB or S. Not many players like that in the draft... much less those who could do it well.

I'll say this... I'd rather have Allen than Barron any day of the week.

I think Roman Harper is a good player comparison for Allen.