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Ozzy
04-28-2012, 07:54 PM
Real early look at the 2013 NFL Draft, a ton of very talented quarterbacks, almost to many to count. So sadly the days of non stop quarterback prospect talk on the NFL draft is no where near over.




1 Matt Barkley QB USC
2 Robert Woods WR USC JR
3 Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia RS JR
4 Marcus Lattimore RB South Carolina JR
5 TJ McDonald FS USC
6 William Gholston DE Michigan State JR
7 Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame
8 D.J. Fluker Alabama OT RS JR
9 Xavier Rhodes Florida State RS JR
10 Devin Taylor DE South Carolina
11 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
12 Justin Hunter WR Tennessee JR
13 Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU RS JR
14 Alvin Bailey OG Arkansas JR
15 Louis Nix III NT Notre Dame RS SOPH
16 Brandon Jenkins DE/OLB Florida State
17 Xavier Sua-Filo OT UCLA
18 Michael Dyer RB Arkansas State JR
19 Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
20 Patrick Omameh OG Michigan RS
21 Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia JR
22 Cornellius Carradine DE Florida State
23 Bacarri Rambo SS Georgia
24 Jonathan Hankins DT Ohio State JR
25 Logan Thomas QB VT JR
26 Kawann Short DT Purdue
27 David Amerson NC State JR
28 Bennie Logan DT LSU JR
29 Joseph Fauria TE UCLA
30 Landry Jones QB OU
31 Tyrann Mathieu LSU JR
32 Jaz Reynolds WR Oklahoma JR




These guys in no real order all have 1st round potential as well in my book.

Robert Lester FS Alabama
Aaron Murray QB Georgia RS JR
Arthur Brown ILB Kansas State TS
Tony Jefferson CB Oklahoma JR
Greg Reid CB Florida State
Michael Mauti OLB Penn State
Geno Smith QB WV
Mike Glennon QB NC St
EJ Manuel QB FSU
Da'Rick Rogers WR Tennessee JR
Jordan Matthews WR Vanderbilt JR
Cobi Hamilton WR Arkansas
Knile Davis RB Arkansas
Rex Burkhead RB Nebraska
Michael Williams TE Alabama
Cameron Fleming OT Stanford RS SOPH
Kevin Graf OT USC JR
Chance Warmack OG Alabama
Seantrel Henderson OT Miami FL JR
Dominique Easley DT Florida JR
Brandin Hawthorne ILB Michigan
Prince Shembo OLB Notre Dame JR
Jamie Collins OLB Southern Miss
D.J. Swearinger SS South Carolina
Matt Elam SS Florida JR
Eric Reid SS LSU JR
Nick Moody SS Florida State
Tre Boston FS UNC JR
Tharold Simon FS LSU JR
Tyler Bray QB Tennessee JR
Jordan Matthews WR Vandy JR
Damion Square DE Alabama JR

JRTPlaya21
04-28-2012, 08:05 PM
Dyer is at Arkansas State now.

Pat Sims 90
04-28-2012, 08:08 PM
John Simon should be in 1st round mix next year. Kid is a beast.

Mufasa
04-28-2012, 08:16 PM
It'll be interesting to see if William Gholston's draft stock will be influenced at all by his bust of a cousin.

kwilk103
04-28-2012, 08:23 PM
wvu has a trio of offensive weapons

sr. qb geno smith
sr. wr/kr/pr tavon austin---led ncaa in all purpose yards
rsjr. wr stedman bailey

mcnole23
04-28-2012, 08:25 PM
Nick Moody will be playing LB this season.

A Perfect Score
04-28-2012, 08:29 PM
Two words: Keenan Allen.

Giantsfan1080
04-28-2012, 08:31 PM
Calling Lattimore to the Colts right now.

marks01234
04-28-2012, 08:38 PM
Amerson is legit. Kid is a true 6'3" 200 and runs in the 4.3's. And he's a ballhawk.

FSU is loaded again with defense talent. Carradine is the most interesting to me. He's a load and fast.

Overall the ACC looks a little down although there are several QBs who could step up.

vidae
04-28-2012, 08:58 PM
Where is my dude Tyler Bray at?

Ozzy
04-28-2012, 09:06 PM
JRTPlaya21 Dyer is at Arkansas State now.Oh yeah, my mistake, will change that.

A Perfect Score Two words: Keenan Allen.He is very good and could totally argue he has 1st round talent depending on who comes out.


vidae Where is my dude Tyler Bray at?I have him listed at possible players who have 1st round potential, had a inconsistent year last season because of injury but does have the height and the talent potentially.


mcnole23 Nick Moody will be playing LB this season.Yeah, and Kenny Tate moved down to linebacker and was so so before being injured, and Harrison Smith started at linebacker for ND and then moved back. Then Antonio Allen on SC was basically a hybrid linebacker safety for them and still got drafted. I feel he should stay at SS though, will see.



kwilk103 wvu has a trio of offensive weapons

sr. qb geno smith
sr. wr/kr/pr tavon austin---led ncaa in all purpose yards
rsjr. wr stedman baileyYeah it will be real interesting how Geno Smith does this year, had such an amazing bowl game. Will see if he becomes an elite 1st round talent at quarterback, but he does have a hell of a lot of competition.

Fred Savage
04-28-2012, 09:09 PM
You guys are losers. I am already looking at the 2014 draft.

Ozzy
04-28-2012, 09:15 PM
Fred Savage You guys are losers. I am already looking at the 2014 draft.hahaha


Yeah if a lot of juniors come out next year at QB, the junior crop for the 2014 class looks rough right now at QB. But Sammy Watkins will be in that mix at the top as will Jadeveon Clowney at DE and fine OTs also potentially in Cyrus Kouandjio, Fabbians Ebbele and Cameron Fleming.

armageddon
04-28-2012, 09:15 PM
Hope it's a strong class, the Rams could have 2 top 10 picks.

Smash28Dash34
04-28-2012, 09:32 PM
Seantrel Henderson is a beast

Ozzy
04-28-2012, 09:36 PM
Smash28Dash34 Seantrel Henderson is a beastWhen, before or after the back injury? Kid has been an insane disappointment and all of this is on potential and his physical size and hypothetical athletic ability. If it was on production he would not even be in the discussion. Hopefully he turns it around...but yes he is in the conversation potentially

twiz
04-28-2012, 09:42 PM
Woods, welcome to Cleveland.

Fred Savage
04-28-2012, 09:45 PM
Can't go off Rivals rankings for draft rankings. Look at Bryce Brown, Janzen Jackson, Bobbie Massie, etc.

Smash28Dash34
04-28-2012, 09:48 PM
When, before or after the back injury? Kid has been an insane disappointment and all of this is on potential and his physical size and hypothetical athletic ability. If it was on production he would not even be in the discussion. Hopefully he turns it around...but yes he is in the conversation potentially

Heard of sarcasm bro? I know all about him I was kidding. Was a former #1 recruit gone wrong I know. :banana: :banana: :banana:

RealityCheck
04-28-2012, 10:24 PM
Dyer is at Arkansas State now.
Talking about A-State, I'm curious about their QB Ryan Aplin as a prospect. Impressed me a lot this past season. They definitely should get some more exposure this year since Dyer and Malzahn joined.

jrdrylie
04-28-2012, 10:43 PM
Talking about A-State, I'm curious about their QB Ryan Aplin as a prospect. Impressed me a lot this past season. They definitely should get some more exposure this year since Dyer and Malzahn joined.

Aplin went to high school about a mile from my house, so I've seen him play quite a bit. He is a good college player, but I don't like him as a prospect. He's undersized and his arm isn't all that strong.

Complex
04-28-2012, 10:47 PM
You forgot DeMarcus Millner and Tharold Simon is a corner

Hurricanes25
04-28-2012, 10:49 PM
Small school QB for everyone to look out for: Brad Sorensen from Southern Utah.

cajuncorey
04-29-2012, 12:06 AM
Lester is actually better then barron according to many

Bills2083
04-29-2012, 12:21 AM
Are we going to be hearing similar things about Fluker as we did to Glenn this past year? I haven't seen him play, so I don't know if they're similar in the slightest, or what (aside from size)

hagy34
04-29-2012, 12:38 AM
I love the 2013 draft. Amerson for the Vikes. Please Please Please.

And yes I'm assuming we will suck this year.

SilentJaguar
04-29-2012, 12:48 AM
No Barrett Jones? I am disappoint.

Leon Sandcastle
04-29-2012, 01:08 AM
Need to learn more about Logan Thomas. Love that Mike Glennon is up there. Seen a little of him but I've liked what I've seen so far.

Ozzy
04-29-2012, 09:10 AM
Complex You forgot DeMarcus Millner and Tharold Simon is a cornerI have Simon listed as a potential 1st rounder below, but Millner, not sure he has shown that yet but clearly Saban will coach him up and he might become an elite player, has not shown that yet to me though.

Bills2083 Are we going to be hearing similar things about Fluker as we did to Glenn this past year? I haven't seen him play, so I don't know if they're similar in the slightest, or what (aside from size)Fluker has a crazy base, huge thick kid, not an awful pass protector but is just an earth mover. But yet if he struggles in pass protection he will drop, but to be at this point he is the most talented offensive tackle potentially out there.


SilentJaguar No Barrett Jones? I am disappoint.I like him, just not sure he is 1st round potential, could totally make that argument though, amazing versatility.

SolidGold
04-29-2012, 09:29 AM
I love Barrett Jones. The fact he can play all 5 positions on the o-line at a high level is amazing. I hope he is drafted as an OT in the pros.

Hines
04-29-2012, 09:33 AM
I REALLY want TJ McDonald on the Steelers.

Pontus
04-29-2012, 09:37 AM
I REALLY want TJ McDonald on the Steelers.

Better hope for a really bad season then ;)

SenorGato
04-29-2012, 10:12 AM
I REALLY want TJ McDonald on the Steelers.

Yeah really want him or Lester since Los Yets didn't get Barron.

T-RICH49
04-29-2012, 10:16 AM
I really hope we go with a QB in the 1st round.that's the only posistion holding us back

ramsrule
04-29-2012, 10:17 AM
Do not sleep on Ray Ray Armstrong from "THE U." Word from Miami is that he is in great physical condition and had an outstanding spring.

Ozzy
04-29-2012, 10:42 AM
ramsrule Do not sleep on Ray Ray Armstrong from "THE U." Word from Miami is that he is in great physical condition and had an outstanding spring.Oh I will sleep on him, I will go to friggin bed on that guy.

Crazy disappointment so far, stiff, not productive, not a good ball hawk, not a great tackler, lacks intensity on the field. He has a long ways to go and so far through three years of college football, he has been a huge disappointment, maybe he can turn that around in one year, who knows.

cmd34
04-29-2012, 11:18 AM
My 3 favorite 2013 prospects for the Cowboys are:
Eric Reid, SS, LSU
William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama

and to keep my USC homering in tact:
TJ McDonald, FS, USC

BoiseSt39
04-29-2012, 11:23 AM
Boise State has a pair of corners that are draftable prospects:

Jamar Taylor
Jarrell Gavins

Thats2
04-29-2012, 12:02 PM
Hey all. Signed up just to come out with a preposterous bang. Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State... if he comes out, he'll be a first round pick.

He's 6 foot, ~200 lbs, fastest guy on the team, GREAT return man (4 KO return TD's in 2 years), has great ball skills. He intercepted Luck, Griffin, Tannehill and Landry Jones this year, and on the Luck and Griffin picks, baited them both into throwing to a guy they thought was open before exploding to make the pick. Both QB's afterward said "well that one was just a great play by the CB".

He's still learning the position (came in as the ubiquitous "athlete"), but the progress he made from 2010 to 2011 was crazy. If he does it again (and he's one of the hardest workers on the team), he could go top 15. He's got everything you look for.

Just wanted to get that in now so I can be that annoying "I told you so" guy a year from now. Looking forward to it.

TuckNole
04-29-2012, 04:39 PM
Yeah, and Kenny Tate moved down to linebacker and was so so before being injured, and Harrison Smith started at linebacker for ND and then moved back. Then Antonio Allen on SC was basically a hybrid linebacker safety for them and still got drafted. I feel he should stay at SS though, will see.

No chance to start if he stayed at SS. FSU has a stud there in Terrence Brooks.

TuckNole
04-29-2012, 04:55 PM
This could be the best draft class to come out of FSU ever depending on who comes out and how '12 seasons play out.

These guys have 1st round potential and are predicted to come out:
Xavier Rhodes - CB (top CB with Amerson?)
Tank Carradine - DE (freak DE)
Bjeorn Werner - DE (dominant DE)
Brandon Jenkins - DE (most productive DE)
Christian Jones - LB (freak athlete)

These guys are all 2-4 round type guys:
Everette Dawkins - DT (maybe best and most versatile DL)
Rodney Smith - WR (Tommy Streeter 2.0)
Greg Reid - CB - (also top return man)

These guys are all later round draft picks:
EJ Manuel - QB (physical tools, mental questions)
Amp McCloud - DT (very solid run stuffer)
Dustin Hopkins - K (probably top kicker in draft)

These guys all have draft potential, but are borderline right now
Lonnie Pryor - RB/FB
Vince Williams - MLB
Nick Moody - LB/SS
Chris Thompson - RB

thebow305
04-29-2012, 10:19 PM
When, before or after the back injury? Kid has been an insane disappointment and all of this is on potential and his physical size and hypothetical athletic ability. If it was on production he would not even be in the discussion. Hopefully he turns it around...but yes he is in the conversation potentially

Neither of you guys have any idea what you are talking about.

Kid has dealt with injuries, but is one of the hardest workers on the team. Coach Golden praised him relentlessly before last season for getting into shape and showing great work ethic. He went from around 370 lbs his freshman season, to around 345 lbs his sophomore season. It's all about the injuries with him, but when he has been healthy and in the lineup, he has been every bit worthy of that top ranking coming out of high school. If he stays in the lineup the whole year, he will be a top ten pick, no question about it. Kid is a DEVASTATING run blocker, and above average pass blocker. If he locks on, it's over.

villagewarrior
04-29-2012, 10:22 PM
Also, Amp McCloud has the coolest name. I really like Bjorn Werner as well. Always showing up in the backfield.

keylime_5
04-29-2012, 10:35 PM
Arthur Brown could be a top 20 pick after this season. Tank Carradine is a guy who will probably go higher than the more highly touted Brandon Jenkins, but you never know. Also I thinK Star Loteleilei (sp?) is definitely the #1 DT at this point, probably top 12 pick.

thebow305
04-29-2012, 10:39 PM
Johnathon Hankins would be very disappointed in you keylime ;)

I have him ranked over Star right now, even though I'll admit it's a big leap of faith.

dannyz
04-30-2012, 05:27 AM
You left Sam Montgomery off your list?

I think another guy who could maybe sneak into the 1ST Round could be Nickoe Whitley from Mississippi State.

I really want to see how Tyrann Mathieu handles going against the Top WR's in the SEC, I really like him but think he will have to move to Safety in the NFL and could be a Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed type of big play maker because his coverage skill are not that good and watching the NC Game he just got killed all over that game.

AntoinCD
04-30-2012, 06:15 AM
Robert Woods and Keenan Allen are both better than any WR from this year's draft. Any Cal game I watched and any time I watched draftable prospects from this year, either for Cal or against them, Allen was the one guy who stood out by a mile.

Ozzy
04-30-2012, 07:22 AM
Neither of you guys have any idea what you are talking about.

Kid has dealt with injuries, but is one of the hardest workers on the team. Coach Golden praised him relentlessly before last season for getting into shape and showing great work ethic. He went from around 370 lbs his freshman season, to around 345 lbs his sophomore season. It's all about the injuries with him, but when he has been healthy and in the lineup, he has been every bit worthy of that top ranking coming out of high school. If he stays in the lineup the whole year, he will be a top ten pick, no question about it. Kid is a DEVASTATING run blocker, and above average pass blocker. If he locks on, it's over.What is Golden supposed to say? Rip on a kid who has under preformed and tear him down when he is one of the few left on a decimated offensive line? Will see what happens, but when you come in and everyone considers you to be elite, and you are not elite, kind of a disappointment. Especially at that size being a former basketball player as well.

Of course he might turn it around, but so far cannot see how anyone could say he is living up to his expectations.


BoiseSt39 Boise State has a pair of corners that are draftable prospects:

Jamar Taylor
Jarrell GavinsI agree, both are outstanding corners, very good athletes and are quick as can be. Both should easily be drafted next year.


keylime_5 Arthur Brown could be a top 20 pick after this season. Tank Carradine is a guy who will probably go higher than the more highly touted Brandon Jenkins, but you never know. Also I thinK Star Loteleilei (sp?) is definitely the #1 DT at this point, probably top 12 pick.Yeah Arthur Brown was stellar last year, but has a lot of competition at inside linebacker though.

Bixby (Thumper)
04-30-2012, 07:24 AM
Eric Reid and TJ McDonald are STUDS

I <3 Keith Price

jth1331
04-30-2012, 09:01 AM
What are everyone's thought on Kenny Stills? I see you listed Jazz Reynolds, but not Stills.
Its going to be interesting watching Landry Jones this year. He'll either cement himself as a 1st round pick, or fall to probably 3rd/4th round.

K Train
04-30-2012, 09:02 AM
Xavier Rhodes and Sentreal Henderson <3

wicket
04-30-2012, 09:16 AM
louis nix isnt even a certainty to start, doubt hell go pro with 2 years and i dont think he is that high a pick when he is probably the worst starting DLineman for his own team.

keylime_5
04-30-2012, 10:19 AM
Johnathon Hankins would be very disappointed in you keylime ;)

I have him ranked over Star right now, even though I'll admit it's a big leap of faith.

He's a top 15 pick too IMO. I like Star a lot as well being unbiased (what???)

jojo
04-30-2012, 10:31 AM
No Barrett Jones? I am disappoint.

I love Barrett Jones. The fact he can play all 5 positions on the o-line at a high level is amazing. I hope he is drafted as an OT in the pros.

Barrett Jones' omission is sinful. All 4 of the other Alabama o-line front 5 are present, but no Jones.

Jones is the best of the lot, certainly the most versatile as he has played all 5 positions on the OL for the Tide, maybe their next Outland candidate. Could be a Franchise OLT for some team.

Jesse Williams, the Bama NT currently at DE, weighs like 305 with <2% body fat, a Polynesian from Australia & will be an NFL NT for a 3-4 team.

TuckNole
04-30-2012, 11:32 AM
Depending on who comes out, this could be the strongest class of pass rushers in a while:

Jarvis Jones (UGA)
Sam Montgomery (LSU)
Tank Carradine (FSU)
Barkaveous Mingo (LSU)
Bjeorn Werner (FSU)
Jackson Jeffcoat (UT)
Brandon Jenkins (FSU)
Alex Okafor (UT)

tjsunstein
04-30-2012, 11:44 AM
Depending on who comes out, this could be the strongest class of pass rushers in a while:

Jarvis Jones (UGA)
Sam Montgomery (LSU)
Tank Carradine (FSU)
Barkaveous Mingo (LSU)
Bjeorn Werner (FSU)
Jackson Jeffcoat (UT)
Brandon Jenkins (FSU)
Alex Okafor (UT)
Sean Porter, Texas A&M also comes to mind.

SenorGato
04-30-2012, 02:07 PM
Montgomery and Okafor are the big guns at pass rusher for me.

keylime_5
04-30-2012, 02:10 PM
Depending on who comes out, this could be the strongest class of pass rushers in a while:

William Gholston (Michigan State)
Sean Porter (Texas A&M)
Jarvis Jones (UGA)
Sam Montgomery (LSU)
Tank Carradine (FSU)
Barkaveous Mingo (LSU)
Bjeorn Werner (FSU)
Jackson Jeffcoat (UT)
Brandon Jenkins (FSU)
Alex Okafor (UT)

corrected.

as of today, Gholston is the best prospect out of that group imo. best combo of size and athleticism by a mile.

thebow305
04-30-2012, 02:24 PM
corrected.

as of today, Gholston is the best prospect out of that group imo. best combo of size and athleticism by a mile.

I'd have to agree, Gholston is probably the most physically gifted pass rusher in the draft. But he's definitely not the cleanest. Based on potential, production, cleanliness and measurables, the guy that will top my list this year is Barkevious Mingo. Dude is just a terror off the edge with that speed. Just gotta get a little stronger at the point of attack.

Plus, you gotta love the name!

wicket
04-30-2012, 02:53 PM
Barrett Jones' omission is sinful. All 4 of the other Alabama o-line front 5 are present, but no Jones.

Jones is the best of the lot, certainly the most versatile as he has played all 5 positions on the OL for the Tide, maybe their next Outland candidate. Could be a Franchise OLT for some team.

Jesse Williams, the Bama NT currently at DE, weighs like 305 with <2% body fat, a Polynesian from Australia & will be an NFL NT for a 3-4 team.

The bolded part i flat out do not believe. Given that pro cyclists have about 4-5% bodyfat and Lance Armstrong was exceptional with less than 4 i do not believe that there is any NFL player below 5% let along a 305 DLineman

TuckNole
04-30-2012, 04:19 PM
corrected.

as of today, Gholston is the best prospect out of that group imo. best combo of size and athleticism by a mile.

Can't believe I forgot him.

But if the criteria is size and athleticism, I think Carradine is on par, or at least not a "mile" back. He gives up an inch or two, but he'll be show up to the combine 6'5, 270, chiseled, and run something stupid like high 4.6s. I think Carradine is more agile than Gholston. Biggest issue with him is rawness and the fact that he splits snaps with two other potential 1st/2nd rounders.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/101/1018996.jpg

ramsrule
04-30-2012, 04:37 PM
Heard of sarcasm bro? I know all about him I was kidding. Was a former #1 recruit gone wrong I know. :banana: :banana: :banana:
He is the starting right tackle at Miami. Supposedly he is in great shape. Not sure if he will be a high draft choice next year, but if he stays another year, he could be a potential late first, early second round choice.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-30-2012, 04:40 PM
Warmack, Mingo, Bray, or go **** yourself.

TACKLE
04-30-2012, 04:52 PM
Tyler Wilson, Dominique Easley, Ray Graham or go educated yourself.

tjsunstein
04-30-2012, 05:08 PM
Jesse Williams, the Bama NT currently at DE, weighs like 305 with <2% body fat, a Polynesian from Australia & will be an NFL NT for a 3-4 team.

The bolded part i flat out do not believe. Given that pro cyclists have about 4-5% bodyfat and Lance Armstrong was exceptional with less than 4 i do not believe that there is any NFL player below 5% let along a 305 DLineman
http://brightcove01.brightcove.com/6/260701696001/260701696001_1180330162001_vs-1180317882001.jpg?pubId=260701696001

Just looking at him like this you can tell he's well above 2%. Wherever you heard that is lying.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-30-2012, 05:12 PM
Tyler Wilson, Dominique Easley, Ray Graham or go educated yourself.


Love Easley. Hopefully that explosiveness rebounds.

http://brightcove01.brightcove.com/6/260701696001/260701696001_1180330162001_vs-1180317882001.jpg?pubId=260701696001

Just looking at him like this you can tell he's well above 2%. Wherever you heard that is lying.


Bahahahahah at him being 2% body fat. Absolutely ludicrous.

TACKLE
04-30-2012, 05:36 PM
Love Easley. Hopefully that explosiveness rebounds.

I sure hope so. Best get off I've ever seen in college. Same with Graham. Too many damn knee injuries to studs this last year in college football (Easley, Graham, Lattimore, Kniles, Hunter).

keylime_5
04-30-2012, 05:40 PM
Can't believe I forgot him.

But if the criteria is size and athleticism, I think Carradine is on par, or at least not a "mile" back. He gives up an inch or two, but he'll be show up to the combine 6'5, 270, chiseled, and run something stupid like high 4.6s. I think Carradine is more agile than Gholston. Biggest issue with him is rawness and the fact that he splits snaps with two other potential 1st/2nd rounders.

http://media.scout.com/media/image/101/1018996.jpg

yeah I like Carradine a lot. He's from Cincinnati and coming out of high school, if he didn't have such terrible grades, he would've been offered by and signed with Ohio State. He is very raw but probably has the most potential out of all the speed rushers in this class.

I still like Gholston a lot more b/c he 's more polished and at 6'7"/275 he moves better than Quinton Coples did and has a more consistent motor. I really feel like he'll be a top 10 pick and probably the first DE selected right now. I think he'll explode for a 10 sack type season this year as a junior.

Ozzy
05-03-2012, 08:22 PM
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/SKP8287-610x457.jpgAlec Ogletree, 6-3 236, kid could be an elite inside linebacker and have a standout year for the Dawgs. Love his size and athletic ability, could arguably play inside in a 3/4 or 4/3, or outside in a 3/4 or a 4/3. Has so much potential, has big time first round potential.



keylime_5 yeah I like Carradine a lot. He's from Cincinnati and coming out of high school, if he didn't have such terrible grades, he would've been offered by and signed with Ohio State. He is very raw but probably has the most potential out of all the speed rushers in this class. I agree, he really came on strong at the end of last season. With that size and speed, he could be a very big time talent when it is all said and done.

holt_bruce81
05-03-2012, 08:28 PM
I'm tellin you guys....Sheldon Richardson is going to shoot up draft boards, he had a good season last year, first year at Mizzou. I expect big things from him this year, and he's a great athlete, I'm expecting a 4.75 in the forty, or lower.

P-L
05-03-2012, 08:36 PM
Did Michael Dyer get a hardship waiver? I can't imagine him entering the draft if he's not allowed to play this year.

Bixby (Thumper)
05-03-2012, 08:51 PM
Alec Ogletree, 6-3 236, kid could be an elite inside linebacker and have a standout year for the Dawgs. Love his size and athletic ability, could arguably play inside in a 3/4 or 4/3, or outside in a 3/4 or a 4/3. Has so much potential, has big time first round potential.

My #1 LB prospect. I actually think I had him as the first defensive player drafted in my way too early, mostly guess work mock draft. He's a stud, he can do it all. Better than Kuechly this year. His performance against Michigan State in the bowl game was just stellar. That whole Georgia defense is going to be amazing. They're my early pick for National Champions.

Ozzy
05-03-2012, 09:16 PM
Bixby
My #1 LB prospect. I actually think I had him as the first defensive player drafted in my way too early, mostly guess work mock draft. He's a stud, he can do it all. Better than Kuechly this year. His performance against Michigan State in the bowl game was just stellar. That whole Georgia defense is going to be amazing. They're my early pick for National Champions.Not sure he is better than Kuechly, sure might be athletically but hard to argue with Kuechly's production on a much less talented defense than Georgia. As for Georgia being National Champs, no way I see that, especially not in that division where even Vandy will be pretty good. I see them losing too much on the offensive line and they will hurt a little with Rambo's early season suspension as well. Will be in the hunt though of course but really doubt they become National Champs. But Jarvis Jones and Ogletree and arguably the two most talented linebackers on any one roster in America though.

Matthew Jones
05-03-2012, 09:28 PM
I'm really excited about all of the front seven players in this draft: Devin Taylor, William Gholston, Sam Montgomery, Manti Te'o, Barkevious Mingo, Jarvis Jones, etc. This should be a fun year.

ChiefMojo
05-03-2012, 10:31 PM
Being a Chiefs fan, of course I'll be watching QB's but the main position of interest for me is ILB. With Belcher only having a one-year tender and Siler as the back-up, the Chiefs need a ILB for the future. They always could re-sign Belcher long term but I think he would be best as the back-up in time.

Seems like this will be a strong class for ILB's as well which is a plus.

jojo
05-03-2012, 10:35 PM
Are we going to be hearing similar things about Fluker as we did to Glenn this past year? I haven't seen him play, so I don't know if they're similar in the slightest, or what (aside from size)

Fluker has started at RT since his freshman yr, reported at age 18 at 340+ lbs. He is an excellent run blocker human road grader, both Mark Ingram & Richardson ran well behind him.

Bama fans like me want to see him return for the senior yr, to be honest he could stand some footwork & pass blocking technique improvement, but with the lure of 1st rd. NFL megabucks it isn't likely.

Bixby (Thumper)
05-03-2012, 10:48 PM
Not sure he is better than Kuechly, sure might be athletically but hard to argue with Kuechly's production on a much less talented defense than Georgia.

I was Kuechly's biggest fan boy. Love me some impact middle linebackers. I think Kuechly is a beast and his production was off the charts and will continue to be off the charts but I think Ogletree is a little better at making splash plays. A little less instinctive and clearly worse in zone coverage (but thats just b/c Kuechly was so good) but he plays downhill more than Kuechly did, is a better blitzer, takes on blockers better and he's a more explosive hitter. Completely different players.

Bixby (Thumper)
05-03-2012, 10:50 PM
I do not think DJ Fluker will hold up in pass protection at the next level, especially at RT. He's got really slow feet and he's really heavy. Phil Loadholt v.2. Huge, mauling RT prospect from a big school.

gator3guy
05-04-2012, 12:37 AM
I'm tellin you guys....Sheldon Richardson is going to shoot up draft boards, he had a good season last year, first year at Mizzou. I expect big things from him this year, and he's a great athlete, I'm expecting a 4.75 in the forty, or lower.

Did he turn it on at the end of the year? I watched some of their games early in the year and specifically him when he came in. He didn't seem to make an impact. I don't know whether he was out of shape or what. I heard what a good athlete he was for such a big guy and I was excited to see what he had.

mqtirishfan
05-04-2012, 01:06 AM
Jesse Williams, the Bama NT currently at DE, weighs like 305 with <2% body fat, a Polynesian from Australia & will be an NFL NT for a 3-4 team.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IySPC.gif

I don't even have any words for this.

jojo
05-04-2012, 08:19 AM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IySPC.gif

I don't even have any words for this.
So I exaggerated his body fat. I saw a pic of him shirtless at Western Arizona Juco as a 19-yr old & he looked like he was carved from marble.

He will return to his natural NG position this fall from DE, we'll see how many laugh at him when he goes to an NFL starts there -- he won't be a typical "fat" NG by any stretch.

jbooshey
05-04-2012, 08:55 AM
Not reading through the whole thing, but the 1st page appeared to go without mention of Ricky Wagner OT Wisconsin...that is a big oversight.

mqtirishfan
05-04-2012, 10:01 AM
Not reading through the whole thing, but the 1st page appeared to go without mention of Ricky Wagner OT Wisconsin...that is a big oversight.

Is that you, Todd McShay?

Bixby (Thumper)
05-06-2012, 08:11 AM
Anyone have an opinion on Kyle Van Noy, LB from BYU? I have to watch him more but I remember being quite impressed with him. Didn't write anything down. He finished last year with 68 tackles, 15 TFL, 7 sacks, 3 interceptions, 3 PBUs, 3 FF and 1 fumble returned for a TD. Listed at 6'3" and 235 pounds.

Bixby (Thumper)
05-06-2012, 09:17 AM
I'm listing players/teams I want to see more of here so that I don't forget any:
Nordly Capi, AJ Klein and Jake Knott, Kyle Van Noy, Gerald Hodges, Michael Clay, Kiko Alonso and Dion Jordan, Aaron Dobson, Khaseem Greene and DC Jefferson, Joseph Fauria, Texas A&M, Florida State, Texas, Tennessee, Oday Aboushi and Morgan Moses, Chris Faulk and Alex Hurst, Derek Carr, Colin Klein and Arthur Brown, re-watch Aaron Murray, Mike Glennon, Toilolo and Ertz, Jonathan Brown, Jelani Jenkins, Corey Nelson and Tony Jefferson, and Stansly Mopanga and Casey Pachall.

Any somewhat under the radar prospects I should make note of now?

One of my favorite guys that isn't getting hype at this point is Zach Line.

Man crush on Keith Price.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/uwsports/files/2011/10/keithprice-480x376.jpg

<3

Brent
05-06-2012, 09:26 AM
not counting my alma mater's prospects (Swope, Porter, Michael, et al.), I'm all aboard the Marquess Wilson bandwagon

As I said weeks ago:
In 2011,

Targets: 122
Catches: 81
Yards: 1383
Yards/Target: 11.3

And now he's going to be in a Mike Leach offense? Yikes.

PpPzojudHMo

wicket
05-06-2012, 09:45 AM
So I exaggerated his body fat. I saw a pic of him shirtless at Western Arizona Juco as a 19-yr old & he looked like he was carved from marble.

He will return to his natural NG position this fall from DE, we'll see how many laugh at him when he goes to an NFL starts there -- he won't be a typical "fat" NG by any stretch.

you didnt exaggerate his body fat, you were just talking out of your ass, not the same thing

Leon Sandcastle
05-06-2012, 12:58 PM
corrected.

as of today, Gholston is the best prospect out of that group imo. best combo of size and athleticism by a mile.

No love for Dion Jordan on your DE list?

Ozzy
05-06-2012, 04:33 PM
Bixby
I'm listing players/teams I want to see more of here so that I don't forget any:
Nordly Capi, AJ Klein and Jake Knott, Kyle Van Noy, Gerald Hodges, Michael Clay, Kiko Alonso and Dion Jordan, Aaron Dobson, Khaseem Greene and DC Jefferson, Joseph Fauria, Texas A&M, Florida State, Texas, Tennessee, Oday Aboushi and Morgan Moses, Chris Faulk and Alex Hurst, Derek Carr, Colin Klein and Arthur Brown, re-watch Aaron Murray, Mike Glennon, Toilolo and Ertz, Jonathan Brown, Jelani Jenkins, Corey Nelson and Tony Jefferson, and Stansly Mopanga and Casey Pachall.

Any somewhat under the radar prospects I should make note of now?

One of my favorite guys that isn't getting hype at this point is Zach Line.

Man crush on Keith Price. Gerald Hodges is overrated to me, there are more than two more talented linebackers on Penn State than him, he could be good but so far has been just ok if that. Aaron Dobson I like as well, he has been good for quite awhile now. DC Jefferson, so he did not go out for the draft? If not that is great, kid has a sick tight end body, just needs to produce the way his athletic ability might allow him too. Morgan Moses disappointed last year I think, but he is still young. Faulk could be a stud OT potentially, and Colin Klein makes Tebow look like crap at times running the football at quarterback, kid is very underrated. Arthur Brown is a stud, plays with great leverage and is much more mature than his fool brother. Corey Nelson is a tough one, ideally would be a SS but not sure he can play that spot, and Jefferson ideally is a corner but playing him at linebacker is not good for his development, and Jefferson had a down season last year also I feel.

SenorGato
05-06-2012, 05:29 PM
Anyone seen Renfree the Duke QB? I hear he's got game/talent.