Final Fantasy Mafia Game - TOWN WINS!

[SuperPacker]

Im ferociously facepalming myself right now!

[njx9]

So we know myself and SP are good. I still don't think Gonzo is ACTUALLY evil, just dumb.


TBW confuses me a bit, and I want to review his posts. Traitor doesn't have any powers doing some research and IIRC, he seemed to be pretty gung-ho about killing the Mafia

wait, how do we know SP is good?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Jviggggggg, come out and playyyyyy.

Vote: Jvig



I know you are trying to get him to talk, but I am absolutely confident he is evil. He has not made a single post, yet BB is keeping him in the game (when he already booted someone else) which means he's sending in night actions. So either he's the serial killer (although if Gonzo's right, it's probably CJ) or he's evil.


vote: jvig

[Shane P. Hallam]

Sorry guys was sleeping, I investigated super packers last night and it came back evil, not sure if we can trust the result there or not, but thats what I got.

Incompetent cop called him evil.

[Bulldogs]

Jvig is mafia. CJ is the serial killer. You're welcome town.

[Grizzlegom]

So we know myself and SP are good. I still don't think Gonzo is ACTUALLY evil, just dumb.


TBW confuses me a bit, and I want to review his posts. Traitor doesn't have any powers doing some research and IIRC, he seemed to be pretty gung-ho about killing the Mafia

Well we can't completely clear SP, every investigation turned up evil whether they truly were or not.

I'd like to hear from Jensen today, I motivated him again last night so he better come up with two investigations (since I doubt there's anymore role blockers)

[Dr. Gonzo]

Everything I have said has been true. I am evil because I was wrong about Job? I am not the only one who voted for him.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Jvig is mafia. CJ is the serial killer. You're welcome town.


Stealin' from me bro?

[SuperPacker]

I know you are trying to get him to talk, but I am absolutely confident he is evil. He has not made a single post, yet BB is keeping him in the game (when he already booted someone else) which means he's sending in night actions. So either he's the serial killer (although if Gonzo's right, it's probably CJ) or he's evil.

Great point. He is obviously sending in his night action.

[Bulldogs]

Incompetent cop called him evil.

He was s nervous cop. Every investigation came up guilty. SP is not off the hook.

[njx9]

Incompetent cop called him evil.

"Every result turned up as Guilty."

guilty or not, he'd show you as guilty. nothing he said means anything one way or the other.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Everything I have said has been true. I am evil because I was wrong about Job? I am not the only one who voted for him.


You also lead the charge, which would seem pretty damning. But you aren't evil.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(2) jvig - (bulldogs, ATL)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Bulldogs]

Stealin' from me bro?

Haha, I was just going off instinct but if you are so certain I feel better about it.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Well we can't completely clear SP, every investigation turned up evil whether they truly were or not.

I'd like to hear from Jensen today, I motivated him again last night so he better come up with two investigations (since I doubt there's anymore role blockers)

No GG, incompetent cop shows the opposite.

And I am with GG. Who were the two people you motivated? TBW and Jensen? Both said they never got it? We see why with TBW. He didn't actually have a power it seems. Maybe Jensen is just BSing as well.

You probably shouldn't have stated you motivated him and just let him say if he was or not. Now even if he is evil he will say he was motivated, bah.

[Shane P. Hallam]

"Every result turned up as Guilty."

guilty or not, he'd show you as guilty. nothing he said means anything one way or the other.

Ah sorry, missed that. Let me retread.

[njx9]

No GG, incompetent cop shows the opposite.


jbond, re-read it. paranoid cop. not incompetent cop. every result turned up guilty, not reversed.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

We can worry about that later. It's either take out a mafia member, or the SK.


Edit: Referring to JBond and Jensen.

[njx9]

heh, stealth post. nevermind me.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Gonzo, I am still awaiting you telling me I am smarter than you :D


Well, I want to hear from Jensen. CJ seems likely to be the SK if he went for raiderz. Are you a watcher Gonzo? You watched Raiderz or follower CJ? Can't remember.

[SuperPacker]

I think there are more suspicious people than me right now.

[njx9]

vote: jvig

fine. but i'd still rather kill gonzo.

[Dr. Gonzo]

We should take out Jvig and someone roleblock CJ.

Vote: Jvig

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(4) jvig - (bulldogs, ATL, njx, Gonzo)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Shane P. Hallam]

heh, stealth post. nevermind me.

Nah, you are good, I am the dumb one who just read your post

an incompetent investigator

and assumed.

[Shane P. Hallam]

We should take out Jvig and someone roleblock CJ.

Vote: Jvig

Can you please answer my question?

[Dr. Gonzo]

I tracked CJ. JBond you are smarter than me. Really though it was just a bad decision on my part.

[Grizzlegom]

I doubt there are any role blockers left but yea, probably should have held off on coming out and saying that already. Yea well, his response should give us some clues anyway.

[Shane P. Hallam]

I tracked CJ. JBond you are smarter than me. Really though it was just a bad decision on my part.

Blah, alright. This makes me less confident to target CJ. But I still feel like it is a better shot at this point than Jvig despite his lack of post count.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I doubt there are any role blockers left but yea, probably should have held off on coming out and saying that already. Yea well, his response should give us some clues anyway.

At this point there aren't much mafia left to kill for him. If there is a roleblocker left we will find out tonight. If not CJ will likely kill me which I deserve haha.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Blah, alright. This makes me less confident to target CJ. But I still feel like it is a better shot at this point than Jvig despite his lack of post count.


Shane. He has not made a single post. BB has kept him in the game. He's acting at night, and it certainly isn't for good. Absolute worst case for us is he's the serial killer, but that's still most likely CJ.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

At this point there aren't much mafia left to kill for him. If there is a roleblocker left we will find out tonight. If not CJ will likely kill me which I deserve haha.

Or CJ can do us a solid, and kill someone like GallopingGhost, who is also most likely evil.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Ok sorry this is my first post I have been a bit busier than expected. I plan on catching up soon and coming back with some thoughts later. Please take your time on this one tho, we really cant afford to ******* up anymore than the situation were in.

Hey now, he made this amazing post!

[SuperPacker]

Vote: Jvig

He's sending in his night actions, but not posting. Unless he has the worlds worst role, where he can't say a single word, he must be evil.

[Snicho]

Wait Grizzle, didnt you motivate Jensen on night one?

[Shane P. Hallam]

Or CJ can do us a solid, and kill someone like GallopingGhost, who is also most likely evil.

So, you believe CJ is the SK but don't want to kill him? I don't care if he killed a mafia member, that is wayyyy too dangerous.

[SuperPacker]

Hey now, he made this amazing post!

Who was he defending?

[Snicho]

Guys can we slow down with the votes!

[Grizzlegom]

Wait Grizzle, didnt you motivate Jensen on night one?

Yes. That's why I didn't fully believe him yesterday but people found it hard to believe both TBW and Jensen were lying.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

So, you believe CJ is the SK but don't want to kill him? I don't care if he killed a mafia member, that is wayyyy too dangerous.


I'm really fine with either one. I'm just more confident in Jvig.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(5) jvig - (bulldogs, ATL, njx, Gonzo, SP)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Shane P. Hallam]

I'm really fine with either one. I'm just more confident in Jvig.

There isn't even actual evidence against Jvig. Shouldn't we actually, I don't know, investigate him first or something? As crappy as Gonzo has been, at least we know CJ targeted raiderz and he died. We know Jvig...doesn't post.

[Snicho]

This would make sense.
Grizz motivated Jensen night one. But Jensen only came back with 1 name of who he investigated. It doesnt sound right. Its to fishy.
Grizz you shouldnt have mentioned that you motivated him again last night, cos know he will probably just think something up.

I think Jensen is lying. And I would rather vote for that then an inactive..

[Grizzlegom]

Ok guys, I think jvig has enough votes to make him come out and talk. Lets slow down a bit and wait for some more react.

[SuperPacker]

There isn't even actual evidence against Jvig. Shouldn't we actually, I don't know, investigate him first or something? As crappy as Gonzo has been, at least we know CJ targeted raiderz and he died. We know Jvig...doesn't post.

But we know he sends his night action in. Meaning he's avoiding posting.

Other than being evil, why would he not post?

[njx9]

i don't believe anything gonzo says, so i don't believe cj targeted r4l.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

We know Jvig...doesn't post.


But is still in the game... Like I said, I'm fine with what the town wants to do (provided it's CJ/Jvig), but there's not a single doubt in my mind jvig is a threat to the town.

[Dr. Gonzo]

There isn't even actual evidence against Jvig. Shouldn't we actually, I don't know, investigate him first or something? As crappy as Gonzo has been, at least we know CJ targeted raiderz and he died. We know Jvig...doesn't post.

Bulldogs seems confident and I think knowing CJ its the killer will mean we can contain him tonight. With the mafia they can send multiple people so I worry about them more.

[SuperPacker]

i don't believe anything gonzo says, so i don't believe cj targeted r4l.

Pretty much this. Why are we all believing Gonzo all of a sudden? He ****** us up big time.

[njx9]

I think Jensen is lying. And I would rather vote for that then an inactive..

jensen is what he says he is, based on knowing what i am. if you want to go with anything else feel free, but at least in that, he was honest.

[Grizzlegom]

This would make sense.
Grizz motivated Jensen night one. But Jensen only came back with 1 name of who he investigated. It doesnt sound right. Its to fishy.
Grizz you shouldnt have mentioned that you motivated him again last night, cos know he will probably just think something up.

I think Jensen is lying. And I would rather vote for that then an inactive..

Yea I probably should have held off on that statement. That being said, who he comes back with as the two names tonight should give us some info. Plus he's claiming role cop so its not exactly easy to fudge and the mafia lost their role cop so he can't be fed info from him anymore.

[Snicho]

I trust Gonzo. And if he is claiming that CJ targeted R4L then i think there might be some truth behind it. But I dont trust Jensen.

[Dr. Gonzo]

i don't believe anything gonzo says, so i don't believe cj targeted r4l.

May I ask why?

[njx9]

why the hell would you trust gonzo? all of the incorrect crap he's fed everyone?

[Shane P. Hallam]

I am fairly suspicious of Jensen because if he IS an actual role cop (knowing TBW is a traitor,) wouldn't either the mafia and/or the SK murder him pretty hardcore? A role cop for the good side would be ridic, especially since we have a motivator.

Just a thought.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

i don't believe anything gonzo says, so i don't believe cj targeted r4l.

I believe Gonzo. He just got cute and played his role horribly in relation to Job.

[SuperPacker]

I am fairly suspicious of Jensen because if he IS an actual role cop (knowing TBW is a traitor,) wouldn't either the mafia and/or the SK murder him pretty hardcore? A role cop for the good side would be ridic, especially since we have a motivator.

Just a thought.

They could of been waiting until the last protector was killed, so they could have a clean shot at him?

[vidae]

I think it would be stupid to completely disregard anything Gonzo says. What is the worst that could happen? CJ has barely posted due to rl issues so if we lose someone good who is inactive we really just lose someone who is inactive.

[njx9]

*shrug* y'all have your votes then.

[Snicho]

I want to hear from Jensen. Im not sold on Jvig.
Things just dont add up with Jensen. He has come out as a cop. How is he still alive?

[vidae]

*shrug* y'all have your votes then.

I'm asking you seriously. What is the worst that could happen?

[Dr. Gonzo]

why the hell would you trust gonzo? all of the incorrect crap he's fed everyone?

Everything I have said has been true though. I have been been pretty open about why I am doing what I am doing, my suspicions, and who I am tracking.

[Snicho]

I forgot to vote

Vote: Jensen

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(5) jvig - (bulldogs, ATL, njx, Gonzo, SP)
(1) jensen - (snicho)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[vidae]

Why are we voting Jensen again?

[njx9]

I'm asking you seriously. What is the worst that could happen?

we kill 'job' again. everyone continues to think gonzo is worth listening to. like i said, feel free. he burned any trust i would've put in him either by intentionally misleading people, or by poor play. *shrug*

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Why are we voting Jensen again?

His claimed role is most likely ********.

[vidae]

we kill 'job' again. everyone continues to think gonzo is worth listening to. like i said, feel free. he burned any trust i would've put in him either by intentionally misleading people, or by poor play. *shrug*

Well, Gonzo said CJ targeted R4L and R4L ended up dead. If you don't trust Gonzo, what would your course of action be?

[njx9]

i already voted jvig.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Well, Gonzo said CJ targeted R4L and R4L ended up dead. If you don't trust Gonzo, what would your course of action be?

Probably voting jvig, considering that's what he did. Haha.


Edit: damn you njx.

[Snicho]

Because Jensen got motivated night one, and only came back with 1 investigation which could mean he is lying about his role. And also Id just like to hear from him. Plus how many people could claim they could investigate, like 5 or something. One of them has to be evil.

[Dr. Gonzo]

we kill 'job' again. everyone continues to think gonzo is worth listening to. like i said, feel free. he burned any trust i would've put in him either by intentionally misleading people, or by poor play. *shrug*

You are right, I am the only one to ever make a mistake in these games. At least you are no longer saying I am lying because everything I have said has been true.

[vidae]

i already voted jvig.

Probably voting jvig, considering that's what he did. Haha.


Edit: damn you njx.

Yes, I am able to read. I obviously meant for the future of the game, not just this round.

Furthermore, why are we voting JVig? Because he hasn't been posting but hasn't been replaced? CJ hasn't been posting much either and hasn't been replaced.

[Grizzlegom]

i have to step out for a few hours, bb as soon as I can.

[Dr. Gonzo]

i already voted jvig.

For the record I did too because it's the smart thing to do. Knowing who can kill at night is a huge advantage for the town and we should be focusing on possible mafia. I may change my vote to Jensen though depending on what he says.

[SuperPacker]

Yes, I am able to read. I obviously meant for the future of the game, not just this round.

Furthermore, why are we voting JVig? Because he hasn't been posting but hasn't been replaced? CJ hasn't been posting much either and hasn't been replaced.

CJ has had 16 posts, Jvig has had 1.

[njx9]

Yes, I am able to read. I obviously meant for the future of the game, not just this round.

Furthermore, why are we voting JVig? Because he hasn't been posting but hasn't been replaced? CJ hasn't been posting much either and hasn't been replaced.

haven't thought that far. but i'm not going to play today in complete contravention of what i've seen, just in case this time he's right. like i said, i'm just one vote. if you feel differently, please feel free to go in that direction. i don't trust gonzo.

and yes, for the same reasons. but i won't vote cj solely because gonzo's 'investigation' showed him doing something.

[vidae]

CJ has had 16 posts, Jvig has had 1.

Oh. Interesting. I suppose I'll go with jvig too but I still don't agree with completely disregarding what Gonzo is saying. We'll see if he was telling the truth soon enough though.

vote : jvig

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I don't think Gonzo's wrong. It more a case of would you rather get rid of the potential (more than likely) SK or a definite mafia/SK?

[SuperPacker]

I don't think Gonzo's wrong. It more a case of would you rather get rid of the potential (more than likely) SK or a definite mafia/SK?

I wouldn't say he's definitely Mafia. But what he's done is VERY suspicious and i'd take that over putting my faith in Gonzo.

[TitanHope]

Do we have anything more to go on towards lynching Jvig other than him having 1 post?

[njx9]

absolutely nothing.

[Dr. Gonzo]

We need to hear from both Jvig and Jensen. It's very likely that one or both is evil.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

We need to hear from both Jvig and Jensen. It's very likely that one or both is evil.


Both of them are evil, the way I see it.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(6) jvig - (bulldogs, ATL, njx, Gonzo, SP, vidae)
(1) jensen - (snicho)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Bulldogs]

Both Jvig and CJ are evil, choose your poison. I'm not sold on Jensen being evil yet.

[Bulldogs]

What's the hold up? Are we just waiting to hear on info from Jensen?

[Snicho]

I'm off to work, I'll try pop in every now and then. My votes in so hopefully we will get the right person today.

[njx9]

What's the hold up? Are we just waiting to hear on info from Jensen?

or, i guess, for jvig to make post #2.

[Bulldogs]

or, i guess, for jvig to make post #2.

Haha not gonna happen.

[Jvig43]

Ok hi, I know I havent been on at all, I have had one terrible post so it looks like it should be my head right now. I just have more classes than I have ever taken and in between studying and writing papers I havent had the time to really actively participate and read through everything. I will say If you do decide that I should be killed please give me a list of people who you guys think are and I can at least help you in one way or another before I die. Thats all I can really say.

Haha not gonna happen.

Totally is. I am good and I can help and I do understand killing me right now- hell I would too with as little as I have posted. But like I said, if you are going to kill me before you do so, when you vote my name also add in people who are relatively suspicious and I'll see if I can help you guys out. Actually now may be a good time to lynch me during the day if anything.

[Bulldogs]

Ok hi, I know I havent been on at all, I have had one terrible post so it looks like it should be my head right now. I just have more classes than I have ever taken and in between studying and writing papers I havent had the time to really actively participate and read through everything. I will say If you do decide that I should be killed please give me a list of people who you guys think are and I can at least help you in one way or another before I die. Thats all I can really say.

What's your role.

[Jvig43]

What's your role.

Am I allowed to reveal roles?

[Bulldogs]

Am I allowed to reveal roles?

Yes, just don't name your character. What is your role and what have you done.

[Bulldogs]

Taking a little long to reveal something you should know. :waiting:

[Rob S]

Both Jvig and CJ are evil, choose your poison. I'm not sold on Jensen being evil yet.

Just trying to get caught up here....sorry I have been relatively inactive here. Work/final week have been tough.

BD, are you 100% sure on both of them. If that's the case, I think this would be the way I would lean over an inactive.

[Bulldogs]

Just trying to get caught up here....sorry I have been relatively inactive here. Work/final week have been tough.

BD, are you 100% sure on both of them. If that's the case, I think this would be the way I would lean over an inactive.

90% on Jvig, 75% on CJ.

[Snicho]

This will be interesting

[Grizzlegom]

Ok hi, I know I havent been on at all, I have had one terrible post so it looks like it should be my head right now. I just have more classes than I have ever taken and in between studying and writing papers I havent had the time to really actively participate and read through everything. I will say If you do decide that I should be killed please give me a list of people who you guys think are and I can at least help you in one way or another before I die. Thats all I can really say.


So you had time to post in the movie discussion thread last night but couldn't post over here?

[Rob S]

90% on Jvig, 75% on CJ.

So you had time to post in the movie discussion thread last night but couldn't post over here?

Yeah, I noticed that as well Grizz. Even if he couldn't catch up, just a post to let us know that he doesn't have the time to participate and affirmation that he is good would have been nice....something just doesn't add up for me really.

Coupled with Bulldogs' presumed hard evidence, I think I am leaning towards a lynch for jvig although I want to hear from Jensen and CJ.

[Bulldogs]

So you had time to post in the movie discussion thread last night but couldn't post over here?

I love Jvig, but he's lying. Let's just lynch him. Gonzo follow SP tonight, Jensen, if you really are good role cop CJ later on. We should have the final info we need tomorrow.

[Bulldogs]

Yeah, I noticed that as well Grizz. Even if he couldn't catch up, just a post to let us know that he doesn't have the time to participate and affirmation that he is good would have been nice....something just doesn't add up for me really.

Coupled with Bulldogs' presumed hard evidence, I think I am leaning towards a lynch for jvig although I want to hear from Jensen and CJ.

To be perfectly clear, I have zero hard evidence. I just called him out early on because he had one post and putting the pieces of the puzzle together am fairly convinced he is evil.

[Bulldogs]

Here's my list of what I think of everyone remaining:

Good:

Grizz
vidae
Jensen
ATL
Shane
Rob S
njx9
Job reborn

Not sure:

SuperPacker
GallopingGhost
Snicho

Bad:

jvig
CJ

[Rob S]

To be perfectly clear, I have zero hard evidence. I just called him out early on because he had one post and putting the pieces of the puzzle together am fairly convinced he is evil.

Okay. I mean, I agree the logic for sure. If we don't have actual "hard evidence" on anyone, I still think jvig is suspect numero uno for me.

[Bulldogs]

I'm changing my vote. I don't like the idea of keeping a serial killer alive tonight. Now only one person will go instead of two.

Unvote: Jvig

Vote: CJ

[Jvig43]

Thats fine, but your % on me is actually 100% wrong. I do understand killing me and yes I have posted somewhat in other threads, tho mostly from my phone last night because someone pulled the fire alarm while I was studying and while being out in the cold jumped on here. I havent really been following so I don't know what opinion or side I can take. If you all think CJ is bad I can help you with that right now upon me being lynched. But BD is wrong about me being bad, I don't know what that says about him but I am not a villain. And I will reveal my role but if I have a day power per say does that mean I cannot be blocked from using it? I'm assuming people can't block my actions upon me using them in the day/ using them upon me being killed.

[Bulldogs]

Thats fine, but your % on me is actually 100% wrong. I do understand killing me and yes I have posted somewhat in other threads, tho mostly from my phone last night because someone pulled the fire alarm while I was studying and while being out in the cold jumped on here. I havent really been following so I don't know what opinion or side I can take. If you all think CJ is bad I can help you with that right now upon me being lynched. But BD is wrong about me being bad, I don't know what that says about him but I am not a villain. And I will reveal my role but if I have a day power per say does that mean I cannot be blocked from using it? I'm assuming people can't block my actions upon me using them in the day/ using them upon me being killed.

What is your action and what have you done so far.

[Jvig43]

I have not done anything so far. And answer my question about being blocked before I state what it is because that would be important.

[Rob S]

This is heating up...do tell, jvig.

[Rob S]

I have never heard or a day roleblocker.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

I mean, it's incredibly obvious Jvig is evil. You don't even have to invent a story for us buddy, I'll spare you.


The town just needs to come to a consensus. Do we want to take out jvig (mafia), CJ (serial killer), or Jensen (probably lying about his role, mafia?)

[Bulldogs]

I have not done anything so far. And answer my question about being blocked before I state what it is because that would be important.

You can not be blocked during the day. What do you have for us?

[Bulldogs]

I mean, it's incredibly obvious Jvig is evil. You don't even have to invent a story for us buddy, I'll spare you.


The town just needs to come to a consensus. Do we want to take out jvig (mafia), CJ (serial killer), or Jensen (probably lying about his role, mafia?)

I say take out the SK with the rationale being only one person dies tonight instead of two.

[Jvig43]

Like I said I have zero issue revealing things about me although that may or may not **** up my action, I really don't know how blocking this thing goes but I imagine from reading my posts you could figure it out and it may benefit you guys the most to execute me during the day than have the mafia take me out at night, idk really. All I know is I can help, I understand that I am suspicious and that is my fault, I really feel bad for not participating in a themed game I love so much but I just have been pretty busy- most of my posts have been on my phone waiting for class to start and etc...

Who else besides CJ is on the watch list?

[Dr. Gonzo]

I say let Jvig take out CJ if he is implying he is some sort of hunter.

[Jvig43]

I am a hunter and can take down someone when I die. Now that its out there, if I get taken out at night I can be role blocked so you may as well tell me who to kill now and lynch me. I'd also be careful of the people saying they know 100% I am evil or that I am definetely mafia and should be lynched. My inactivity has nothing to do with me being evil. If you need to ask look at my last game. I was the godfather and one of the more outspoken people in the game, I don't play like a ***** when I am evil.

[Rob S]

This is a strange situation here.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Jvig, if you could take out CJ for us, that'd be swell.

[Jvig43]

How is it strange? No one has investigated me or come forward with the fact I am evil. People just are saying they are positive I am because I havent posted. I sent BB a pm telling him that I was a lot more ****** with work than I thought I would be heading into this week. My low posting is enough to get me on the radar and I will give you that. I have given you all the info I have, so all thats left really is to waste a lynch on me and let me try and take someone out.

And Atl, I bet you are evil with the fact that now all of a sudden you are changing your story out of nowhere and trying to make it look like killing Cj would help. I would rather kill mafia than CJ th but thats up to you guys just make sure to let me know who to go after.

[Rob S]

vote: jvig

Here's what I'm thinking with voting jvig.....either we lynch a mafia (WIN) or jvig is actually a hunter and he goes out in style by killing CJ (SEMI-WIN).

[Bulldogs]

People do not lynch Jvig. He will take out one of our last investigators.

[Rob S]

How is it strange? No one has investigated me or come forward with the fact I am evil. People just are saying they are positive I am because I havent posted. I sent BB a pm telling him that I was a lot more ****** with work than I thought I would be heading into this week. My low posting is enough to get me on the radar and I will give you that. I have given you all the info I have, so all thats left really is to waste a lynch on me and let me try and take someone out.

It's just strange in the fact that we are now going from you being mafia to you taking out a SK for us....thats a big jump.

[Rob S]

People do not lynch Jvig. He will take out one of our last investigators.

you think he is a mafia hunter?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Yeah, while I'd love to believe he'd help us out, he won't.


unvote: jvig
vote: cj

[Bulldogs]

I am a hunter and can take down someone when I die. Now that its out there, if I get taken out at night I can be role blocked so you may as well tell me who to kill now and lynch me. I'd also be careful of the people saying they know 100% I am evil or that I am definetely mafia and should be lynched. My inactivity has nothing to do with me being evil. If you need to ask look at my last game. I was the godfather and one of the more outspoken people in the game, I don't play like a ***** when I am evil.

To be fair I said 90%.

[Grizzlegom]

People do not lynch Jvig. He will take out one of our last investigators.

I know Renji was a hunter after being revived but I do find it hard to believe the mafia would have two hunters. Not saying I completely believe him but if he is a hunter, I would tend to agree that he's probably a good hunter.

[Bulldogs]

you think he is a mafia hunter?

Absolutely. Why else would he want us to lynch him.

[Jvig43]

People do not lynch Jvig. He will take out one of our last investigators.
Excuse me what? Has anyone investigated BD because right now I am starting to feel like you are certainly evil. Why would I do that, I asked you to tell me who to take out...
It's just strange in the fact that we are now going from you being mafia to you taking out a SK for us....thats a big jump.

Hey thats on the people saying they KNOW I am mafia. They have no clue and I would just be highly suspicious of the ones saying that this is an easy kill. It is an easy kill, for the mafia right now. I have made it too easy for them agreed but I'm trying to help now before I am out of the game.

[Shane P. Hallam]

you think he is a mafia hunter?

We already experience the Mafia Hunter in Renji. Two would be pretty darn overpowered.

Vote: CJ

I honestly believe Jvig at this point as the only suspicion has been because he didn't post much, and the hunter role claim makes sense as we haven't seen it.

Bulldogs, I'm still not 100% sold on you either my man! I'm watching ya.

[Jvig43]

Absolutely. Why else would he want us to lynch him.

Because now that you made me reveal my role I can be picked off at night and role blocked. If I get killed now I can do some good and take someone out with me. Jesus its not like I came here begging to be killed, I just came to my defense and am trying to help now that I have been rather useless all game. Idk why you think you know this about me, if anything I am heavily suspicious of you right now considering how hard you are pushing the fact that I am mafia.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(6) jvig - (ATL, njx, Gonzo, SP, vidae, Rob)
(1) jensen - (snicho)
(1) CJ - (bulldogs)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Because now that you made me reveal my role I can be picked off at night and role blocked. If I get killed now I can do some good and take someone out with me. Jesus its not like I came here begging to be killed, I just came to my defense and am trying to help now that I have been rather useless all game. Idk why you think you know this about me, if anything I am heavily suspicious of you right now considering how hard you are pushing the fact that I am mafia.


Yeah, don't think you could roleblock a Hunter.

[Rob S]

Yeah, jvig's posts strike me as honest actually. If we think CJ is the SK, it may be best to take him out now.

unvote:jvig

vote:CJ

[Jvig43]

Ok I am going to say I think I should be the lynch right now. Otherwise I am completely useless to you guys. I do understand that I am pushing for this hardcore, but I do not want to be killed at night and role blocked from doing some good. Thats my best explanation, and the best thing I can do for all of you. I would be very weary of both Atl and BD tho. BD just doesnt want me killing someone because he knows if we wait until night then they can kill me and role block my ability.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Ok I am going to say I think the lynch should be right now. Otherwise I am completely useless to you guys. I do understand that I am pushing for this hardcore, but I do not want to be killed at night and role blocked from doing some good. Thats my best explanation, and the best thing I can do for all of you. I would be very weary of both Atl and BD tho. BD just doesnt want me killing someone because he knows if we wait until night then they can kill me and role block my ability.

no, no, no. Stop it.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Ok I am going to say I think I should be the lynch right now. Otherwise I am completely useless to you guys. I do understand that I am pushing for this hardcore, but I do not want to be killed at night and role blocked from doing some good. Thats my best explanation, and the best thing I can do for all of you. I would be very weary of both Atl and BD tho. BD just doesnt want me killing someone because he knows if we wait until night then they can kill me and role block my ability.

The mafia's roleblocker seems to be dead. I wouldn't expect the mafia to kill you if you are who you say you are. They will stay FAR away.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(5) jvig - (ATL, njx, Gonzo, SP, vidae)
(1) jensen - (snicho)
(2) CJ - (bulldogs, Rob)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Shane P. Hallam]

We already experience the Mafia Hunter in Renji. Two would be pretty darn overpowered.

Vote: CJ

I honestly believe Jvig at this point as the only suspicion has been because he didn't post much, and the hunter role claim makes sense as we haven't seen it.

Bulldogs, I'm still not 100% sold on you either my man! I'm watching ya.

I voted for CJ as well.

[Grizzlegom]

Yeah, don't think you could roleblock a Hunter.

Yea I've never heard of hunter being roleblocked either. In addition, with two role blockers already dead, not sure I'd buy there being a third.

At this point I'm with njx and still don't trust Gonzo so I'm not ready to lynch CJ either.

We got one person to come out and post by voting, I'm going to move on to calling out another.

Lynch:GallopingGhost

He's been a bandwagon hopper every vote and is always the last or second to last to vote someone and has contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation. In addition, he said yesterday he'd share his thoughts but not until the next day opened up then Caddy called him on it and then Caddy got taken out by Renji.

[Bulldogs]

Jvig is trying to make you question me because he is evil. I urge you guys not to lynch him. Trust me on this. I was 90% before but now that he's attacking me I'm certain.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Ok I am going to say I think I should be the lynch right now. Otherwise I am completely useless to you guys. I do understand that I am pushing for this hardcore, but I do not want to be killed at night and role blocked from doing some good. Thats my best explanation, and the best thing I can do for all of you. I would be very weary of both Atl and BD tho. BD just doesnt want me killing someone because he knows if we wait until night then they can kill me and role block my ability.



And now he's calling out two obviously good players. He's a hunter, and he's not going to take down who we want him to. Let's kill CJ. You'll have your time jvig...



Edit: I also switched over to CJ, BB.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(5) jvig - (ATL, njx, Gonzo, SP, vidae)
(1) jensen - (snicho)
(3) CJ - (bulldogs, Rob, Shane)
(1) GG - (Grizz)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[vidae]

I think jvig is full of **** with this Hunter thing tbh. Would the evil side really have more than one? That's OP.

[Jvig43]

The mafia's roleblocker seems to be dead. I wouldn't expect the mafia to kill you if you are who you say you are. They will stay FAR away.

Ok I just wanted to stress my worries about being role blocked.

BD - you arent sure for **** and if I do die, you are going to look very suspicious after I turn up good. If anyone wants to investigate me go right ahead, I'll come up clean. I have been very upfront about all of these questions. Am I allowed to say what game I am from?

[Jvig43]

I think jvig is full of **** with this Hunter thing tbh. Would the evil side really have more than one? That's OP.

No they wouldnt... which is why I am not ******* evil. Hello.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Honestly, I imagine there is a Hunter on our side if the bad guys got one. If someone else wants to come out and call BS on Jvig and claim to be a Hunter, then do it and we can lynch him down the line to see who is lying. If not, I'll sacrifice Jvig. And quite honestly, I want to try to go through and see what roles we know and who we don't as that may be very telling.

[Bulldogs]

Yea I've never heard of hunter being roleblocked either. In addition, with two role blockers already dead, not sure I'd buy there being a third.

At this point I'm with njx and still don't trust Gonzo so I'm not ready to lynch CJ either.

We got one person to come out and post by voting, I'm going to move on to calling out another.

Lynch:GallopingGhost

He's been a bandwagon hopper every vote and is always the last or second to last to vote someone and has contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation. In addition, he said yesterday he'd share his thoughts but not until the next day opened up then Caddy called him on it and then Caddy got taken out by Renji.

If you look at my list I'm actually suspicious of GG. However, today it has to be one of the sure kills in either CJ or Jvig. With Jvig possibly being a hunter it's not worth the risk at this point, and killing CJ will leave us with an extra good guy during the night. Let's look at GG during the night phase.

[Bulldogs]

Ok I just wanted to stress my worries about being role blocked.

BD - you arent sure for **** and if I do die, you are going to look very suspicious after I turn up good. If anyone wants to investigate me go right ahead, I'll come up clean. I have been very upfront about all of these questions. Am I allowed to say what game I am from?

You won't die. You are evil.

[Jvig43]

Honestly, I imagine there is a Hunter on our side if the bad guys got one. If someone else wants to come out and call BS on Jvig and claim to be a Hunter, then do it and we can lynch him down the line to see who is lying. If not, I'll sacrifice Jvig. And quite honestly, I want to try to go through and see what roles we know and who we don't as that may be very telling.

I agree, if anyone wants to come out with any info on me being evil by all means do so. Or if anyone can tell if I am lying go right ahead and detect if I am lying. If I was ******* evil I would of sat back and let you lynch me and then I would of taken one of you out with me, I wouldnt be here trying to convince you that I am on your side or who you want me to take out.

[njx9]

unvote: jvig

i get what you're saying, jvig. but i'd rather not leave my vote hanging out there now that you're talking. i'd like to see if grizz draws out GG.

[Jvig43]

You won't die. You are evil.

Bwhaha its almost hilarious watching you try to come at me so hard with no reason other than my low post count. It really is saying alot about your game, which if people remember correctly was how you played when you were evil with me last game. You just kept pushing for people you KNEW were 100% evil until you got three people. If you want to prove I am evil, back it up with something other than the fact that you just "know".

[Bulldogs]

Bwhaha its almost hilarious watching you try to come at me so hard with no reason other than my low post count. It really is saying alot about your game, which if people remember correctly was how you played when you were evil with me last game. You just kept pushing for people you KNEW were 100% evil until you got three people. If you want to prove I am evil, back it up with something other than the fact that you just "know".

I backed it up with "facts" when I was evil. Right now I'm using my knowledge of the game and how you have played so far to determine that you are bad. I don't need to back it up with more than just I know, it seemed to work for Renji, Scotty, and TBW (not for Job, sorry brah). 3/4 is a pretty solid record.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(4) jvig - (ATL, Gonzo, SP, vidae)
(1) jensen - (snicho)
(3) CJ - (bulldogs, Rob, Shane)
(1) GG - (Grizz)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

BB, I switched to CJ...


And, I completely believe Jvig is a hunter. I'm just not convinced it's a neutral/good role. I don't want to take that risk. Let's kill CJ.

[Jvig43]

unvote: jvig

i get what you're saying, jvig. but i'd rather not leave my vote hanging out there now that you're talking. i'd like to see if grizz draws out GG.

Ok, I mean I hope I can't be role blocked but it would suck to lose my power if I could be. I mean people have seen me play evil, this is pretty much the farthest thing I would do if I was evil. I would be much more social, and if I was evil and a hunter why the **** would I defend myself instead of just sitting here silently letting you vote for me until i got killed and took someone good out with me? It makes no sense to say I am an evil hunter when I could of easily just taken someone out but jumped up to defend myself.

[GallopingGhost]

The people i think are evil:

TBW
JVIG
SUPERPACKER

[Grizzlegom]

The people i think are evil:

TBW
JVIG
SUPERPACKER

Oh look he speaks. And one of the people he thinks is evil is dead.

[Bulldogs]

The people i think are evil:

TBW
JVIG
SUPERPACKER

TBW is dead and yes he was evil.

[GallopingGhost]

Oh look he speaks. And one of the people he thinks is evil is dead.

Well then. My reading skills aren't up to par.

[Bulldogs]

Well then. My reading skills aren't up to par.

You and SuperPacker really are more alike than I ever thought.

[vidae]

unvote : Jvig

vote : CJ

[Jvig43]

BB, I switched to CJ...


And, I completely believe Jvig is a hunter. I'm just not convinced it's a neutral/good role. I don't want to take that risk. Let's kill CJ.

Youre an idiot. If I wasn't a good one why the **** would I say anything? I would have just let you idiots lynch me and did my killing. God are you even thinking this through or are you and BD just trying to push for an easy kill? This is pathetic how easy it is to see I am not a bad hunter.

[Grizzlegom]

You and SuperPacker really are more alike than I ever thought.

Moderately shocked both are still alive, haha

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(2) jvig - (Gonzo, SP)
(1) jensen - (snicho)
(5) CJ - (bulldogs, Rob, Shane, ATL, vidae)
(1) GG - (Grizz)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

[Bulldogs]

Youre an idiot. If I wasn't a good one why the **** would I say anything? I would have just let you idiots lynch me and did my killing. God are you even thinking this through or are you and BD just trying to push for an easy kill? This is pathetic how easy it is to see I am not a bad hunter.

To be honest I didn't like the way you were pushing for people to kill you. Plus assuming you are "good" which I doubt, why not keep you alive and kill the serial killer the easy way?

[vidae]

Jvig, will you kill who I pick if you're a good hunter?!

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Youre an idiot. If I wasn't a good one why the **** would I say anything? I would have just let you idiots lynch me and did my killing. God are you even thinking this through or are you and BD just trying to push for an easy kill? This is pathetic how easy it is to see I am not a bad hunter.


Because being a "good hunter" is better than any other ******** excuse you could come up with, and would let you buy time?

[Shane P. Hallam]

To be honest I didn't like the way you were pushing for people to kill you. Plus assuming you are "good" which I doubt, why not keep you alive and kill the serial killer the easy way?

What exactly is your role Bulldogs? I feel like at this point it is time to be out in the open a bit. You've put %s on people, we got misled by TBW a bit already. I'd like to know.

[CJSchneider]

I am here. Please hold your votes so I can read over the last few pages and reply.

[Bulldogs]

What exactly is your role Bulldogs? I feel like at this point it is time to be out in the open a bit. You've put %s on people, we got misled by TBW a bit already. I'd like to know.

**** it. I'm the vigilante. I kill every "even" night. Night two I tried to kill Scotty but it didn't work. This is why I went after him hard Day Three, it didn't make sense to me that a good roleblocker would be protected. I killed TBW last night aka Night Four. CJ needs to go. If there are any protectors left help me out tonight.

[Jvig43]

To be honest I didn't like the way you were pushing for people to kill you. Plus assuming you are "good" which I doubt, why not keep you alive and kill the serial killer the easy way?
Better yet, i don't like how you were pushing for me to die and saying you know 100% I am bad until you found out I was a hunter. Not to mention you pushed for the fact that I am an evil hunter, which I keep throwing in your face, the way I have come out would make no sense if I am an evil hunter. I would of let you kill me, then kill one of you. I wouldn't be here asking for a group consensus of who a bad guy is, and I only pushed to be killed because I am unsure if I can be role blocked at night now that you made me out my role. You are far more suspicious with the pushing for me being evil than I am for low post count. I even said I would gladly be investigated and or lie detected. If I end up dead, I can take out someone we think is evil, and it will tell us alot about you and Atl for pushing so hard to kill me once I turn up good. You are making this way too easy.
Jvig, will you kill who I pick if you're a good hunter?!
Since I havent been following the game eough to know if you are good or not, no I am not going to take one persons advice, i'd take the group consensus.

[vidae]

**** it. I'm the vigilante. I kill every "even" night. Night two I tried to kill Scotty but it didn't work. This is why I went after him hard Day Three, it didn't make sense to me that a good roleblocker would be protected. I killed TBW last night aka Night Four. CJ needs to go. If there are any protectors left help me out tonight.

You're a town aligned Vigilante?

[Jvig43]

Because being a "good hunter" is better than any other ******** excuse you could come up with, and would let you buy time?

Yet you still think I am a hunter? Jesus give me a break, first I was evil, then I was an evil hunter, now I am lying about being a hunter because it was an easy excuse. You two can't keep your accusations straight to save your life.

[Grizzlegom]

You're a town aligned Vigilante?

Aren't vigilantes always town-aligned?

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Yet you still think I am a hunter? Jesus give me a break, first I was evil, then I was an evil hunter, now I am lying about being a hunter because it was an easy excuse. You two can't keep your accusations straight to save your life.


No, my accusations are quite clear. I believe you're a hunter. I just don't believe you are a good hunter.

[Jvig43]

Oh and this is too rich, now BD is a good vigilante? Give me a ******* break thats the guy we are supposed to believe knows I am evil? At least my story is way more logical than a town vigilante.

[Bulldogs]

You're a town aligned Vigilante?

Town-aligned. Aren't they always?

[Bulldogs]

Oh and this is too rich, now BD is a good vigilante? Give me a ******* break thats the guy we are supposed to believe knows I am evil? At least my story is way more logical than a town vigilante.

I wasn't exactly being pushed to reveal it. I can't kill tonight anyway so I'm assuming you and your posse will have more important people to look at anyway. Seriously if you are good what is your problem will killing a serial killer?

[Grizzlegom]

Seriously though, Vigilantes are always town-aligned guys, straight from the mafia wiki:

A Vigilante is a Townie who can kill a player at Night.

[GallopingGhost]

All i can say in my defense is that i am good, i have a role, and i'm using it effectively and accordingly. I haven't been as active as needed and that's why i haven't really been paying attention as much as needed. I'll try my best to change that.

[Jvig43]

No, my accusations are quite clear. I believe you're a hunter. I just don't believe you are a good hunter.

I'm not even going to respond to your stupid ******* accusations at this point, as I don't think anyone in their right mind would take them for having any worth with this back and forth. Ok so suppose I am a bad hunter. So everyone starts voting for me, terrific because that means I can kill someone along with me. But wait, I stop you from voting for me and come out with my own god damn role which anyone can investigate me on and call bs but I did it to stay alive an extra night rather than get a kill. Literally makes zero sense AT ALL. If I was evil I would of let you kill me, Idk how many times I have to say that.

[Bulldogs]

All i can say in my defense is that i am good, i have a role, and i'm using it effectively and accordingly. I haven't been as active as needed and that's why i haven't really been paying attention as much as needed. I'll try my best to change that.

What is your role? You are still suspicious to me it's just guys like CJ and Jvig need to go first.

[Jvig43]

I wasn't exactly being pushed to reveal it. I can't kill tonight anyway so I'm assuming you and your posse will have more important people to look at anyway. Seriously if you are good what is your problem will killing a serial killer?

Oh and now somewhere in my texts I have said I have a problem with killing CJ? Yeah keep at it BD, because never once did I say that I had an issue with us voting CJ, just that I didn't want to be role blocked in taking someone out should I die tonight. My god your entire argument just reeks of desperation in trying to convince people I am evil.

[GallopingGhost]

What is your role? You are still suspicious to me it's just guys like CJ and Jvig need to go first.

If you all REALLY want to know my role let me know, but i'm not going to advertise it unless i really need to.
I feel like there are much bigger fish to fry.

[Bulldogs]

Oh and now somewhere in my texts I have said I have a problem with killing CJ? Yeah keep at it BD, because never once did I say that I had an issue with us voting CJ, just that I didn't want to be role blocked in taking someone out should I die tonight. My god your entire argument just reeks of desperation in trying to convince people I am evil.

Why are you so mad? Nobody is killing you. We'll have somebody look at you tonight and if you are clear you are clear. Problem solved. If you have no problem killing a serial killer stop attacking obvious good guys and put your vote in.

[CJSchneider]

OK, here goes. If you recall, early I spoke about believing that many people had dual roles. That there was a sense of duality in this game. I still believe that. Since I guess it has come to that, I am a town aligned thief.
My actions so far are as follows (any errors are in all honesty as my game notes are at work)

Night 1: missed my action.
Night 2 Goose (pendant)
Night 3 ------ (White mask)
Night 4 Raiderz (shotgun shells)


I literally just got home to see night 4's info, and if raiders was alive, I would have reported him anyway.
I don't want to reveal who had the white mask as I believe a white mask means they are good, if it were a black mask, I would have thrown them under the proverbial bus already.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Believed Roles (someone fill me in on ? that we do know and I missed)

1.) Grizz - Motivator
2.) vidae - ? (known good)
3.) jvig - Hunter?
4.) CJ - SK? Thief?
5.) jensen - Role Cop
6.) SuperPacker - ?
7.) Shane - One shot kill
8.) bulldogs - Vigilante
9.) Titan Hope - ?
10.) gonzo - Tracker
11.) RobS - ?
12.) ATL - ?
13.) GallopingGhost - ?
14.) Snicho - ?
15.) njx9 - One shot Reviver?
16.) job reborn - Bodyguard

[Shane P. Hallam]

OK, here goes. If you recall, early I spoke about believing that many people had dual roles. That there was a sense of duality in this game. I still believe that. Since I guess it has come to that, I am a town aligned thief.
My actions so far are as follows (any errors are in all honesty as my game notes are at work)

Night 1: missed my action.
Night 2 Goose (pendant)
Night 3 ------ (White mask)
Night 4 Raiderz (shotgun shells)


I literally just got home to see night 4's info, and if raiders was alive, I would have reported him anyway.
I don't want to reveal who had the white mask as I believe a white mask means they are good, if it were a black mask, I would have thrown them under the proverbial bus already.

I recognize there could be dual roles, but they wouldn't both be for the same side. We had this with APS, it has been proven with his death. I think you are full of BS or a thief for the mafia.

[Bulldogs]

OK, here goes. If you recall, early I spoke about believing that many people had dual roles. That there was a sense of duality in this game. I still believe that. Since I guess it has come to that, I am a town aligned thief.
My actions so far are as follows (any errors are in all honesty as my game notes are at work)

Night 1: missed my action.
Night 2 Goose (pendant)
Night 3 ------ (White mask)
Night 4 Raiderz (shotgun shells)


I literally just got home to see night 4's info, and if raiders was alive, I would have reported him anyway.
I don't want to reveal who had the white mask as I believe a white mask means they are good, if it were a black mask, I would have thrown them under the proverbial bus already.

We already had one town aligned thief. Severely doubt there was a second. I'd also love to hear the theory on this white mask thing.

[vidae]

OK, here goes. If you recall, early I spoke about believing that many people had dual roles. That there was a sense of duality in this game. I still believe that. Since I guess it has come to that, I am a town aligned thief.
My actions so far are as follows (any errors are in all honesty as my game notes are at work)

Night 1: missed my action.
Night 2 Goose (pendant)
Night 3 ------ (White mask)
Night 4 Raiderz (shotgun shells)


I literally just got home to see night 4's info, and if raiders was alive, I would have reported him anyway.
I don't want to reveal who had the white mask as I believe a white mask means they are good, if it were a black mask, I would have thrown them under the proverbial bus already.

Uh, ok. So..

You come out after hardly posting, claim a role that we know APS already had (would there really be two?) and conveniently stolen items from two people who are dead and a third that you refuse to name?

This sounds like a load of horseshit to me.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Might as well reveal at this point CJ, otherwise you're dead.


Edit: With the "white mask" name at this point.

[Bulldogs]

Something else to note. CJ said he missed his night action the first time. Night One began at 3:30 PM, but Day Two started at 8 AM. 24 hours did not pass and therefore BeerBaron would not have skipped him. He is lying.

[GallopingGhost]

Something really stands out for you CJ. For some reason i REALLY don't believe you.

Vote: CJ

[Grizzlegom]

OK, here goes. If you recall, early I spoke about believing that many people had dual roles. That there was a sense of duality in this game. I still believe that. Since I guess it has come to that, I am a town aligned thief.
My actions so far are as follows (any errors are in all honesty as my game notes are at work)

Night 1: missed my action.
Night 2 Goose (pendant)
Night 3 ------ (White mask)
Night 4 Raiderz (shotgun shells)


I literally just got home to see night 4's info, and if raiders was alive, I would have reported him anyway.
I don't want to reveal who had the white mask as I believe a white mask means they are good, if it were a black mask, I would have thrown them under the proverbial bus already.

Why did you miss your action night 1?

[vidae]

Yeah I think CJ is lying here too. He should be our target today.

[Jvig43]

Why are you so mad? Nobody is killing you. We'll have somebody look at you tonight and if you are clear you are clear. Problem solved. If you have no problem killing a serial killer stop attacking obvious good guys and put your vote in.

I'm not mad at all, I am just having a blast poking holes through your arguments and watching your response just be "No you are evil, I know so". I still am lost on why you think I have an issue killing cj, you just blatantly made that up, along with knowing I am bad. I can put my vote in when I feel like the discussion has led us to a rather unanimous argument, Im not going to just jump on easy targets right away without discussion the first time I start paying attention to the game. You have been far more suspicious than I have since this day started, from you making up stuff about me and saying I dont want to kill CJ, to just pushing the topic way further than needed to be. Its just hilarious watching you think you know what your talking about when it comes to me and knowing how wrong you are, not to mention how strange it is you make stuff up to convince people I am bad. Its only a matter of you'll be investigated tonight" because you have to back off me now other wise people will KNOW you are evil, if it isn't apparent at this point to begin with.

[CJSchneider]

We already had one town aligned thief. Severely doubt there was a second. I'd also love to hear the theory on this white mask thing.

I have no idea. My FF knowledge is lacking at best. I did answer to the lie detector question that I was not evil. If I were evil, would I have taken that risk?

[Bulldogs]

Yeah I think CJ is lying here too. He should be our target today.

With CJ dead there will only be one kill tonight. Since it is Night Five I will not be able to help out the town, however I can still kill tomorrow. Hopefully there is still a protector or role-redirector out there that can save me.

[vidae]

I have no idea. My FF knowledge is lacking at best. I did answer to the lie detector question that I was not evil. If I were evil, would I have taken that risk?

It's a very low risk to take. It isn't like they get to know the outcome of everyone who says "I'm not evil".. they pick one. You were already under the radar at that point so 1/30 isn't a big risk at all.

[CJSchneider]

Why did you miss your action night 1?

I was at TT's wedding reception and away from my computer for a prolonged period of time.

[Bulldogs]

I'm not mad at all, I am just having a blast poking holes through your arguments and watching your response just be "No you are evil, I know so". I still am lost on why you think I have an issue killing cj, you just blatantly made that up, along with knowing I am bad. I can put my vote in when I feel like the discussion has led us to a rather unanimous argument, Im not going to just jump on easy targets right away without discussion the first time I start paying attention to the game. You have been far more suspicious than I have since this day started, from you making up stuff about me and saying I dont want to kill CJ, to just pushing the topic way further than needed to be. Its just hilarious watching you think you know what your talking about when it comes to me and knowing how wrong you are, not to mention how strange it is you make stuff up to convince people I am bad. Its only a matter of you'll be investigated tonight" because you have to back off me now other wise people will KNOW you are evil, if it isn't apparent at this point to begin with.

Time will tell. For now CJ is the obvious target.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Let's discuss the guys with question marks above on my list as I feel they warrant the most suspicion. I do generally believe guys like vidae and ATL are good, but the rest worry me a bit, and if they haven't been very vocal for the town, I think it is time to start role revealing. It will be a race either way against the mafia. If they haven't been very helpful yet, I'd guess they aren't investigators and we should at least put the pressure on them a la Jvig (which I think we learned quite a bit from this ordeal).

[Rob S]

CJ is not helping himself. My vote absolutely stands.

[Bulldogs]

Something else to note. CJ said he missed his night action the first time. Night One began at 3:30 PM, but Day Two started at 8 AM. 24 hours did not pass and therefore BeerBaron would not have skipped him. He is lying.

In case nobody saw this.

[vidae]

CJ is not helping himself. My vote absolutely stands.

Agreed. CJ has to go tonight.

[vidae]

Believed Roles (someone fill me in on ? that we do know and I missed)

1.) Grizz - Motivator
2.) vidae - ? (known good)
3.) jvig - Hunter?
4.) CJ - SK? Thief?
5.) jensen - Role Cop
6.) SuperPacker - ?
7.) Shane - One shot kill
8.) bulldogs - Vigilante
9.) Titan Hope - ?
10.) gonzo - Tracker
11.) RobS - ?
12.) ATL - ?
13.) GallopingGhost - ?
14.) Snicho - ?
15.) njx9 - One shot Reviver?
16.) job reborn - Bodyguard

Bump/pagetrapped.

[Bulldogs]

Let's discuss the guys with question marks above on my list as I feel they warrant the most suspicion. I do generally believe guys like vidae and ATL are good, but the rest worry me a bit, and if they haven't been very vocal for the town, I think it is time to start role revealing. It will be a race either way against the mafia. If they haven't been very helpful yet, I'd guess they aren't investigators and we should at least put the pressure on them a la Jvig (which I think we learned quite a bit from this ordeal).

I know it's your thing Shane, but I'm not a fan of role-revealing full out. I feel as if it takes a little bit of fun out of the game. I'm pretty sure we have this almost wrapped up anyway. If people are all for role-revealing sure, but I don't think we even need it at this point to win.

[CJSchneider]

Consider this, is this my MO when caught? Look at how I went out in the Firefly game. When the game is up, I tend to have fun with it. If you take me out now, you also take out the potential for me to help the town gain knowledge.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

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[Bulldogs]

Consider this, is this my MO when caught? Look at how I went out in the Firefly game. When the game is up, I tend to have fun with it. If you take me out now, you also take out the potential for me to help the town gain knowledge.

Of course you would try to change the strategy though. This doesn't really help to change much in my mind. Also, who did this mysterious white mask belong to. We pretty much know who is all good anyway.

[Bulldogs]

BeerBaron, CJ should have six votes. You missed ATL, Vidae, and GG.

[vidae]

*** BB, ATL and I have changed our votes to CJ ***

[Grizzlegom]

I was at TT's wedding reception and away from my computer for a prolonged period of time.

Yea i don't buy this because I know BB was saying he didn't care for the full 24 hour thing but I doubt he'd be quick to skip people on the first day.

unlynch: GallopingGhost
Lynch: CJSchneider

[Shane P. Hallam]

I know it's your thing Shane, but I'm not a fan of role-revealing full out. I feel as if it takes a little bit of fun out of the game. I'm pretty sure we have this almost wrapped up anyway. If people are all for role-revealing sure, but I don't think we even need it at this point to win.

We aren't revealing characters, we can't. And it is going to happen eventually, so why not force the issue. It takes the fun out of it because people have to actually be creative and lie instead of just sitting back and posting 14 times (TitanHope) and getting away with it.

[Bulldogs]

We aren't revealing characters, we can't. And it is going to happen eventually, so why not force the issue. It takes the fun out of it because people have to actually be creative and lie instead of just sitting back and posting 14 times (TitanHope) and getting away with it.

I'd love to hear more from certain people. We are still waiting on Jensen too, who should have somebody's role today.

[CJSchneider]

Something else to note. CJ said he missed his night action the first time. Night One began at 3:30 PM, but Day Two started at 8 AM. 24 hours did not pass and therefore BeerBaron would not have skipped him. He is lying.

I left for the wedding/reception during Shane's draft coverage. I even let people know I was going. I got home late in the AM from the reception. I crashed without checking in and the next day was Sunday. I was at a church function for most of that day. BB did text me while I was at church. I just responded skip my action as it was in the middle of the service and I didn't want to get removed from the game.

[BeerBaron]

Sorry, I copied an older one by mistake. I'll post a new one.

[Rob S]

Believed Roles (someone fill me in on ? that we do know and I missed)

1.) Grizz - Motivator
2.) vidae - ? (known good)
3.) jvig - Hunter?
4.) CJ - SK? Thief?
5.) jensen - Role Cop
6.) SuperPacker - ?
7.) Shane - One shot kill
8.) bulldogs - Vigilante
9.) Titan Hope - ?
10.) gonzo - Tracker
11.) RobS - ?
12.) ATL - ?
13.) GallopingGhost - ?
14.) Snicho - ?
15.) njx9 - One shot Reviver?
16.) job reborn - Bodyguard

Ugh....this is pretty annoying and I debated staying hush hush, but I will reveal. I'm a lyncher. I have not met my win condition yet......awkward lol.

[Shane P. Hallam]

I left for the wedding/reception during Shane's draft coverage. I even let people know I was going. I got home late in the AM from the reception. I crashed without checking in and the next day was Sunday. I was at a church function for most of that day. BB did text me while I was at church. I just responded skip my action as it was in the middle of the service and I didn't want to get removed from the game.

I can attest that he did go to TT's wedding.

[GallopingGhost]

Going to bed, but i'm keeping my CJ vote..

[Bulldogs]

Ugh....this is pretty annoying and I debated staying hush hush, but I will reveal. I'm a lyncher. I have not met my win condition yet......awkward lol.

Alright, so you are neutral? I'm not sure what to make of this. You are still like #4 on my priority list though.

[njx9]

Vote: GG

i don't believe there are any role-blocks for a hunter, based on nothing other than what other people who have played more games have said. therefore, i believe jvig could use his power if killed at night, if he is good.

i think gg is clearly evil.

i will not vote for anyone gonzo nominates until i feel like he's no longer a complete wildcard.

[GallopingGhost]

Ugh....this is pretty annoying and I debated staying hush hush, but I will reveal. I'm a lyncher. I have not met my win condition yet......awkward lol.

What's a lyncher?

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

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[Bulldogs]

I can attest that he did go to TT's wedding.

I'm not debating that, but I feel as it he is using it as a bit of a cop out. Why wouldn't you just pick the first random name that comes to your head and get some info?

[GallopingGhost]

Vote: GG

i don't believe there are any role-blocks for a hunter, based on nothing other than what other people who have played more games have said. therefore, i believe jvig could use his power if killed at night, if he is good.

i think gg is clearly evil.

i will not vote for anyone gonzo nominates until i feel like he's no longer a complete wildcard.

Correct it to i think gg is evil.
Clearly my ballsack, the only sketchy thing i've done is been busy the past couple of days.

[Rob S]

Alright, so you are neutral? I'm not sure what to make of this. You are still like #4 on my priority list though.

No, I'm town aligned I just had a grudge against a certain (presumably) town member that is still alive. I win if the town is safe and my grudge dies.

[Bulldogs]

I'm not debating that, but I feel as it he is using it as a bit of a cop out. Why wouldn't you just pick the first random name that comes to your head and get some info?

Page trap.

[njx9]

Correct it to i think gg is evil.
Clearly my ballsack, the only sketchy thing i've done is been busy the past couple of days.

:njx:

cool story, bro.

[Shane P. Hallam]

I'm not debating that, but I feel as it he is using it as a bit of a cop out. Why wouldn't you just pick the first random name that comes to your head and get some info?

I'm not saying it makes him good, just corroborating. I still voted for CJ, lol.

[CJSchneider]

Going to bed, but i'm keeping my CJ vote..

As for you, I had voiced my opinion about you much earlier. I also defended niel/njx from being a SK earlier as since niel was inactive, he too was actually skipped and replaced. That was my defense for us being aligned with the town. Look at the killers MO. On Night one we say the SK act. If I was not even active then how could I be the SK as I am so accused?

[GallopingGhost]

:njx:

cool story, bro.

:banana: off to bed for realz this time.
I might come out with my role soon.

[Grizzlegom]

unvote: CJ

I want to hear who the white mask belongs to.

[BeerBaron]

VOTE COUNT:

(2) jvig - (Gonzo, SP)
(1) jensen - (snicho)
(6) CJ - (bulldogs, Rob, Shane, ATL, vidae, GG)
(1) GG - (njx)

With 16 remaining, 9 votes are needed for majority.

I THINK it's finally right...

[GallopingGhost]

As for you, I had voiced my opinion about you much earlier. I also defended niel/njx from being a SK earlier as since niel was inactive, he too was actually skipped and replaced. That was my defense for us being aligned with the town. Look at the killers MO. On Night one we say the SK act. If I was not even active then how could I be the SK as I am so accused?

Meh, i haven't done anything. If anyone want's to investigate me tonight, go right ahead. If an investigator can clear me, i will for sure come out with my role.

[GallopingGhost]

unvote: CJ

I want to hear who the white mask belongs to.

Not a bad idea. I'll check in in 15 minutes after i shower and shiznik.

[Grizzlegom]

Meh, i haven't done anything. If anyone want's to investigate me tonight, go right ahead. If an investigator can clear me, i will for sure come out with my role.

so first you say you have an ability and that you have been using it well and now you say you haven't done anything.

[njx9]

Meh, i haven't done anything. If anyone want's to investigate me tonight, go right ahead. If an investigator can clear me, i will for sure come out with my role.

then you're worthless anyways. better waste an investigator though. we have so many reliable ones left.

[Shane P. Hallam]

Meh, i haven't done anything. If anyone want's to investigate me tonight, go right ahead. If an investigator can clear me, i will for sure come out with my role.

That...doesn't make sense?

[Bulldogs]

so first you say you have an ability and that you have been using it well and now you say you haven't done anything.

Without actually being him, I think he was referring to not doing anything during the day. But his posts make my eyes bleed so I have no idea.

[CJSchneider]

I'm not debating that, but I feel as it he is using it as a bit of a cop out. Why wouldn't you just pick the first random name that comes to your head and get some info?

I left to TT's before I even knew my role. When I got BB's text I was in the middle of a church service. He informed me we had started and was letting me know so I didn't have to be replaced. I just texted back no action.

[Bulldogs]

I left to TT's before I even knew my role. When I got BB's text I was in the middle of a church service. He informed me we had started and was letting me know so I didn't have to be replaced. I just texted back no action.

You keep dodging the question. Who does the white mask belong to.

[ATLDirtyBirds]

Reveal who has the white mask.

[Bulldogs]

i don't believe there are any role-blocks for a hunter, based on nothing other than what other people who have played more games have said. therefore, i believe jvig could use his power if killed at night, if he is good.

i think gg is clearly evil.

i will not vote for anyone gonzo nominates until i feel like he's no longer a complete wildcard.

Pretend Gonzo didn't say anything. You don't think CJ saying he was the second thief this game, while apparently only stealing from people who have already died is suspicious? Come on now.

[vidae]

Come on CJ, tell us who the mask belongs to.

[CJSchneider]

I will tell who mask belongs to only if they promise not to be mad if the get revealed as a good guy and we do our best to protect them.

[Bulldogs]

I will tell who mask belongs to only if they promise not to be mad if the get revealed as a good guy and we do our best to protect them.

Why would we be mad? We have been making lists trying to find out who is good. This is ridiculous.

[Grizzlegom]

I will tell who mask belongs to only if they promise not to be mad if the get revealed as a good guy and we do our best to protect them.

............why would someone be mad at being revealed as good?

[vidae]

Why would anyone be mad at being revealed as good? The Mafia already knows who the good people are, ie, not one of them.

[Shane P. Hallam]

I will tell who mask belongs to only if they promise not to be mad if the get revealed as a good guy and we do our best to protect them.

The bad people already know they are good. It only helps us if you reveal it.