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BeerBaron
04-28-2012, 11:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BGYhe.jpg

Through the twisting nether between worlds our heroes were pulled. Through blinding lights and unbelievable darkness they traveled. Suddenly, their senses returned to them and they once again felt the constraints of time and reality...sort of.

They opened their eyes to reveal a world beyond imagining. Mortal trappings such as logic and physics did not bind this place. A great black dragon circled the frozen mountains off in the hazy distance and rivers of lava flowed beneath them...this place was truly surreal.

They stood in a castle courtyard, and all around them the castle twisted and turned, extending seemingly forever onwards into the sky. The group began to gather together in the center of the courtyard, trying to figure out just what happened and exactly where they were. Amongst them were soldiers, mages, humans and non-humans alike...none had an explanation until a thunderous voice boomed from behind them.

http://i.imgur.com/N7prl.jpg

“I am Odin, chief deity of this realm,” he stated as he stood up from his throne. “You know us by many names...gods, eidolons, aeons, guardian forces...and this is our home. We have lent our power to worthy mortals since time immemorial, and now it is we who require aid.”

Odin walked towards the crowd, his great figure towering over them all. His giant sword rested casually on his shoulder and his long black cape hovered above the ground behind him as he moved.

“A dark presence has come to this place, seeking our power. This agent of evil has blocked our sight, and we are powerless to defend ourselves while it remains here...” Odin trailed off as he looked out over the balcony towards the dreamlike world beyond.

“That is why you have been brought here,” he said, turning back towards the crowd with his hand outstretched. “You are the most powerful figures of your worlds. It is in you that we place our trust. Root out and destroy the evil forces here before they can claim the power of the gods for themselves!”

With that, Odin returned to his throne. He sat motionless, almost statuesque, with his gaze fixed upon the crowd of heroes before him. He waited for them to make their first decision....

Still Alive:

1.) Grizz
2.) vidae
3.) jvig
4.) jensen
5.) SuperPacker
6.) Shane
7.) bulldogs
8.) Titan Hope
9.) ATL
10.) GallopingGhost
11.) njx9
12.) job reborn

Day 1 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2978241&#post2978241) - Broth (Aeris) - Doctor - Lynched.
Night 1 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2979022&#post2979022) - ImBrotherCain (Kimahri) - Protector - Killed.
- Woot (Squall) - Town Backup turned Doctor - Killed.
Day 2 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2979973&#post2979973) - GoW/Renji (Sephiroth) - Bulletproof RoleCop/??? - Lynched.
Night 2 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2980701&#post2980701) - ngatachance (Rinoa) - Lie Detector - Killed.
- Todd Bertuzzi and SuperMcGee - Goons/Syblings - Killed.
Day 3 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2981480&#post2981480) - Job Reborn (Tidus) - Bodyguard - Lynched.
Night 3 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2981808&#post2981808) - Scottyboy (Seymour) - Roleblocker - Killed.
- APS (Zidane) - Day Thief - Killed.
- Mr. Goosemahn (Ashe) - One-Shot Governor - Killed.
- *** Ork Wang - ??? - REVIVED
- Job Reborn - ??? - REVIVED
Day 4 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2982380&#post2982380) - Renji/GoW (Kadaj) - Hunter - Lynched.
- Caddy (Red XIII) - Watcher - Killed.
Night 4 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2982960&#post2982960) - tbw (Cait Sith) - Traitor - Killed.
- UKFan (Steiner) - Paranoid Cop - Killed.
- Raiderz (Seifer) - One-Shot Strongman - Killed.
Day 5 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2983641&#post2983641) - CJ (Gilgamesh) - Serial Killer - Lynched.
Night 5 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2984085&#post2984085) - Gonzo (Vincent) - Ninja Tracker - Killed.
Day 6 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2984723&#post2984723) - Rob S (Gabranth) - Redirector - Lynched.
Night 6 (http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2985268&#post2985268) - Snicho (Yuna) - Sensor - Killed.

With 13 alive, 7 votes are needed to reach majority.

-- Do NOT PM each other. Automatic mod kill if caught breaking this rule. Please report if someone does PM you.

-- DO NOT NAME DROP. I had to include character names for a few people's roles. Do not, under any circumstance, give your character name or any hints about it. This will result in a mod-kill. (Or stern warning if you are hinting.) You may role drop at your own risk.

-- All lynch and unlynch votes must be in bold. You must unlynch before changing your vote.

-- Refrain from editing your posts.

-- No no-lynching. Someone must be lynched each day! If no consensus can be reached, I reserve the right to take drastic measures.

-- Lastly if you are dead do not PM, chat or discuss the game with anyone in the game dead or alive.

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:34 PM
Hey guys. Sup?

Snicho
04-28-2012, 11:35 PM
Noooo i wanted first post! :(

TheBoyWonder22
04-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Noooo i wanted first post! :(
You selfish bastard you.

Dr. Gonzo
04-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Hello friends.

Raiderz4Life
04-28-2012, 11:38 PM
hi, how's it goin

Ngatachance92
04-28-2012, 11:38 PM
Awww yeaaaa..... Who ever got Sephiroth I hate you... But only a little bit so please don't kill me.

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:38 PM
Hello friends.

Does this seem suspicious to anyone else? :freakout:

Dr. Gonzo
04-28-2012, 11:40 PM
Does this seem suspicious to anyone else? :freakout:

I think you are onto something here.

Ngatachance92
04-28-2012, 11:41 PM
Does this seem suspicious to anyone else? :freakout:

Is it possible for Gonzo to enter a game and not seem suspicious? And I believe you have just stolen Shanes thunder Caddy.

Raiderz4Life
04-28-2012, 11:43 PM
Ok lets just get this out of the way

Vote APS

haha

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:44 PM
I think you are onto something here.

I see what you are doing Gonzo.

Dr. Gonzo
04-28-2012, 11:45 PM
His planned absence is convenient.

Dr. Gonzo
04-28-2012, 11:46 PM
I see what you are doing Gonzo.

I think we both are seeing what the other is doing wouldn't you say.

TitanHope
04-28-2012, 11:49 PM
Rule 34 definitely applies to Final Fantasy as well.

Definitely definitely.

Jensen
04-28-2012, 11:50 PM
ey yo im ****** hammered right now but we cant do no lynch today!! free pass for mafia and thats not good. 30 people, i think are chances are pretty good for getting a mafia since there should be more.

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:50 PM
I think we both are seeing what the other is doing wouldn't you say.

You wish you know what I'm doing. What I'm doing is being done so that what you think I'm doing, is not what I'm actually doing.

BeerBaron
04-28-2012, 11:51 PM
There is no no-lynching. I will add it to the first post rules. Something I meant to add anyway.

Snicho
04-28-2012, 11:52 PM
You wish you know what I'm doing. What I'm doing is being done so that what you think I'm doing, is not what I'm actually doing.

Oh snap!!!

TheBoyWonder22
04-28-2012, 11:52 PM
There is no no-lynching. I will add it to the first post rules. Something I meant to add anyway.
Double-negatives :freakout:

Dr. Gonzo
04-28-2012, 11:55 PM
A lynch day one will be interesting.

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:57 PM
vote: gonzo

YOU KNOW WHY

Ngatachance92
04-28-2012, 11:57 PM
Has a member of the Mafia ever been lynched on day one?

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:58 PM
Has a member of the Mafia ever been lynched on day one?

Even if they aren't, you can still learn plenty.

Dr. Gonzo
04-28-2012, 11:58 PM
This hurts Caddy. It really does. Arch-enemies again. Curse you!

Caddy
04-28-2012, 11:59 PM
This hurts Caddy. It really does. Arch-enemies again. Curse you!

I am good. We are arch-enemies. Therefore Gonzo is bad.

Mr. Goosemahn
04-28-2012, 11:59 PM
You wish you know what I'm doing. What I'm doing is being done so that what you think I'm doing, is not what I'm actually doing.

My head hurts.

vidae
04-29-2012, 12:01 AM
Hello friend(s)!

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 12:02 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(1) Gonzo - (caddy)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 12:03 AM
You wish you know what I'm doing. What I'm doing is being done so that what you think I'm doing, is not what I'm actually doing.

That actually works out because what I am doing is not what you would think I would be doing if you thought I knew what you were doing and was acting accordingly. I am doing something else.

I am good. We are arch-enemies. Therefore Gonzo is bad.

Sound logic.

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 12:05 AM
I am good. We are arch-enemies. Therefore Gonzo is bad.

You saying that has got me thinking, a game this size with so many roles and diverse characters is bound to have a Lie detector in it or someone with a similar power. We have nothing as it is day one, so claiming our alignment may be the best way to start things off. I am good as well.

Snicho
04-29-2012, 12:05 AM
That actually works out because what I am doing is not what you would think I would be doing if you thought I knew what you were doing and was acting accordingly. I am doing something else..

So confused... :/

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 12:05 AM
im not exactly sober so dont mind me too much

Caddy
04-29-2012, 12:06 AM
Sound logic.

I thought so :njx:

Snicho
04-29-2012, 12:07 AM
You saying that has got me thinking, a game this size with so many roles and diverse characters is bound to have a Lie detector in it or someone with a similar power. We have nothing as it is day one, so claiming our alignment may be the best way to start things off. I am good as well.

If there is one..

I am good.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 12:08 AM
I am not Evil!

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 12:08 AM
im not exactly sober so dont mind me too much

Getting ****** up means you are under the influence of the devil. The devil is evil. The mafia is evil. Does this mean we should be suspicious of you?

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 12:09 AM
I think the lie detector works better if we just say we are evil.

vidae
04-29-2012, 12:09 AM
I am as good as good can be, that much I assure you! I am helpful too!

Caddy
04-29-2012, 12:10 AM
I think the lie detector works better if we just say we are evil.

That role works the same either way.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 12:11 AM
Rule 34 definitely applies to Final Fantasy as well.

Definitely definitely.

I have seen it and it was awesome. actually I've seen several of them so I'm unaware of what it is you speak of.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 12:11 AM
That role works the same either way.

I am just trying to get some people to say they are evil. You are blowing my cover!

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 12:14 AM
You saying that has got me thinking, a game this size with so many roles and diverse characters is bound to have a Lie detector in it or someone with a similar power. We have nothing as it is day one, so claiming our alignment may be the best way to start things off. I am good as well.
So what you're saying is you're a lie detector.

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 12:15 AM
I am just trying to get some people to say they are evil. You are blowing my cover!
You gave up on that quickly...

vidae
04-29-2012, 12:16 AM
Gonzo is already suspicious! Why am I not surprised?!

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 12:16 AM
I am as good as good can be, that much I assure you! I am helpful too!

This isn't the Jester game get those rhymes OUTA HERE!

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 12:18 AM
This isn't the Jester game get those rhymes OUTA HERE!
Game?! This is real **** yo. You're not taking this very seriously. I found Sephiroth everyone!

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 12:19 AM
So what you're saying is you're a lie detector.

I am not saying that, the first game I played in had one and it was about this size so I assumed it would only make sense to include one here too.

Todd Bertuzzi
04-29-2012, 12:20 AM
Caddy is usually good in these games, therefore he is good in this one. By that logic, Gonzo must be evil.

amidoingitright? :D

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 12:21 AM
I am not saying that, the first game I played in had one and it was about this size so I assumed it would only make sense to include one here too.
I'm just messing with you man. That would make sense, but I think it's more the mod's preference than the game size when it comes to things like that. Is there a FF character who that role makes sense for?

Caddy
04-29-2012, 12:21 AM
Caddy is usually good in these games, therefore he is good in this one. By that logic, Gonzo must be evil.

amidoingitright? :D

We were both bad in the last one :)

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 12:26 AM
I'm just messing with you man. That would make sense, but I think it's more the mod's preference than the game size when it comes to things like that. Is there a FF character who that role makes sense for?

Well, there are Sorcerers, Clairvoyants and any number of people who may possess that power presumably. I cant remember a character with that specific ability however.

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 12:32 AM
i'm drunk haha

i think we got with thre usual suspects

IM LOOKING AT YOU DG!!!

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 12:35 AM
i'm drunk haha

i think we got with thre usual suspects

IM LOOKING AT YOU DG!!!

Hey man, the RDT thread is where you proclaim your drunkness for 7-11's enjoyment, not here.... Unless... You are strongly eluding to a character... Time for a wiki check.

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 12:40 AM
Hey man, the RDT thread is where you proclaim your drunkness for 7-11's enjoyment, not here.... Unless... You are strongly eluding to a character... Time for a wiki check.

No there's no drunks in FF...that I can member...only Tidus' dad but he wouldn't bve in here I don't think. Would be awesome though, Jecht, the magnificent jecht shot mach III lol

7-11...weird he trips bout drunks...dawg's named after a good spot to get booze.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 12:41 AM
I don't even know what you are saying half the time raiderz

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 12:57 AM
I'm off to bed. It seems unlikely, but if we should reach majority before I wake up, someone please lock the thread.

Bulldogs
04-29-2012, 01:09 AM
SuperPacker time to step your game up.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 01:15 AM
No there's no drunks in FF...that I can member...only Tidus' dad but he wouldn't bve in here I don't think. Would be awesome though, Jecht, the magnificent jecht shot mach III lol

7-11...weird he trips bout drunks...dawg's named after a good spot to get booze.

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/206331-auron_large_3099.jpg

No drunks in Final Fantasy?

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 01:17 AM
fail!!!

hahaha

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 02:20 AM
who got lulu....or yuna....i want a piece of dat ass!!! hahaha

Caddy
04-29-2012, 02:26 AM
who got lulu....or yuna....i want a piece of dat ass!!! hahaha

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JqAyK5Ezjv8/TwLIB2d5_1I/AAAAAAAAAqU/_THFCPOKhdg/s1600/Drunk.jpg

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 02:33 AM
i should prolly put my computr away while i drinok

Rob S
04-29-2012, 02:41 AM
Just saw this. I'm hammered....all I know is that I'm good and that we should wait till tm to kill someone because I am a very poor judge of character right now.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 02:46 AM
I never look at my character til after day 1. There is no point to doing it.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 02:51 AM
Anyone else want to start a vote bandwagon and force Broth to look?

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 03:04 AM
Anyone else want to start a vote bandwagon and force Broth to look?
Sounds fun! Why wouldn't you look? What difference would it make? Plus, that's the sketchiest thing I've heard all day. Makes it sound like you're hiding something considering we could never confirm that.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 03:12 AM
Sounds fun! Why wouldn't you look? What difference would it make? Plus, that's the sketchiest thing I've heard all day. Makes it sound like you're hiding something considering we could never confirm that.

Well I could or could not be hiding something it keeps me consistent with the way I act day 1. Too many times people subconsciously change their behavior depending on what side they are on. Since I don't know what side I'm on my behavior can't change.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 03:14 AM
unvote: gonzo
vote: broth

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 03:22 AM
It does seem a bit sketch, but his explanation could be believable. Not saying I do believe him but the strategy does make a bit of sense. I try to play the same regardless of role, but I do get what he means by your subconscious possibly betraying you. You're being watched Broth tread lightly, or else whether good or bad we may know you're role before you do.

UKfan
04-29-2012, 04:18 AM
Morning everyone. Seems we have nothing too much to go on, but the Broth thing sounds a tad odd I guess.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 04:30 AM
Just vote for him until he looks.

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 04:42 AM
I guess I can get behind that. Its going to take 15 to reach majority so if a better option comes along there should be plenty of time to change, if nothing else comes up its day one.

Lynch:Broth

UKfan
04-29-2012, 04:44 AM
Yes boss! Vote Broth

Snicho
04-29-2012, 04:53 AM
Broth, just look..

Vote: Broth

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 05:16 AM
vote: ngata him saying he hates whoever got sephiroth makes me think he is sephiroth.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 05:30 AM
vote: ngata him saying he hates whoever got sephiroth makes me think he is sephiroth.

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 05:30 AM
Hes only the most awesome character in that universe, but I can see why its suspicious though.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 05:40 AM
Stop being so suspicious then Ngata.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 07:09 AM
Vote: Ngata

Because of what GOW said and because if he was bad he would want a lie detector test on people, so the lie detector person would come out and say whos good. Meaning him can kill us all!!!!

Caddy
04-29-2012, 07:11 AM
I want to kill you because of your bad grammar.

UKfan
04-29-2012, 07:12 AM
Agreed! It actually gives me a headache.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 07:14 AM
vote: ngata him saying he hates whoever got sephiroth makes me think he is sephiroth.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 07:21 AM
What's with the double post, buddy?

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 07:21 AM
i was posting from my phone

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 07:28 AM
Im also posting from my phone.

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 07:34 AM
Vote: Ngata

Because of what GOW said and because if he was bad he would want a lie detector test on people, so the lie detector person would come out and say whos good. Meaning him can kill us all!!!!

Not much I can say to defend myself on day one other than the usual it would be a mistake, look into who killed me when I come back good and an asset to the town yadda yadda. Packer, the lie detector wouldn't come out and say if someone was good unless it was to save someone from a lynching or say someone's bad to lead to a lynching, that being said I've noticed a few people who haven't answered that question.

UKfan
04-29-2012, 07:36 AM
In case of any lie detectors and so on, I am good, I am not evil.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 07:37 AM
Not much I can say to defend myself on day one other than the usual it would be a mistake, look into who killed me when I come back good and an asset to the town yadda yadda. Packer, the lie detector wouldn't come out and say if someone was good unless it was to save someone from a lynching or say someone's bad to lead to a lynching, that being said I've noticed a few people who haven't answered that question.

Only like 3 people have.

ImBrotherCain
04-29-2012, 07:51 AM
So I am posting from my phone until my power is restored... I'll try to follow along as best as possible.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 08:03 AM
I am as good as good can be, that much I assure you! I am helpful too!

Im wondering about this. Correct me if im wrong, but is this dodging the question? And secondly, why would you come out and say you were useful? That would only make you a target of the evil. Unless he is evil, so he's not worrying about that. It could be a ploy to get protected at night, taking protection away from a good person and onto a bad person.

Caddy
04-29-2012, 08:06 AM
Alright I'm going to bed. If you can't figure out who to lynch, just make it APS or SP.

Ngatachance92
04-29-2012, 08:10 AM
Im wondering about this. Correct me if im wrong, but is this dodging the question? And secondly, why would you come out and say you were useful? That would only make you a target of the evil. Unless he is evil, so he's not worrying about that. It could be a ploy to get protected at night, taking protection away from a good person and onto a bad person.

He does have a deep knowledge of the roles seeing as how he also has run a few. If there is a way to circumvent the Lie Detector he would know. He could have just went with I am good or I am not evil.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 08:13 AM
GOW your reasoning was weak and you seem to have no problem making yourself a target. I think that its because you are evil and know you don't need to worry about dying at night.

Vote: GOW

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 08:31 AM
have you ever seen me play?

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 08:34 AM
have you ever seen me play?

I have and I also know it is very easy for you to fall back on that. Something just seems off about you this time though.

Grizzlegom
04-29-2012, 08:48 AM
Good day gentlemen!

ImBrotherCain
04-29-2012, 08:59 AM
Alright power is restored and I am back in full force. After the JBond lie detector thing I doubt there will be another in these games because they are so OP but knowing that if I don't say it I will be thrown to the wolves...

I am good, not evil.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 09:01 AM
I have and I also know it is very easy for you to fall back on that. Something just seems off about you this time though.
i guess. Still, i had one post accusing someone. I have accused people before because they went no lynch.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 09:14 AM
i guess. Still, i had one post accusing someone. I have accused people before because they went no lynch.

The way I look at it you died early last time and spoke out in the Potter game because you were safe at night. You are also a little weak with your defense. I actually think I may have been right about you being evil.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 09:24 AM
The way I look at it you died early last time and spoke out in the Potter game because you were safe at night. You are also a little weak with your defense. I actually think I may have been right about you being evil.
I speak out in all games. I think it is always better to be suspicious in games. That way mafia doesnt kill you. I didnt speak out last game and got killed early. thats why i speak out.

A Perfect Score
04-29-2012, 09:47 AM
I've got limited time to post, but from what I'm seeing Ngata's statement wasn't overly suspicious. Could just be an overzealous FFVII fan who wants a shot at him. I'll check in again later tonight, but for the lie detectors and investigators and such, I'm not evil.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 09:48 AM
I speak out in all games. I think it is always better to be suspicious in games. That way mafia doesnt kill you. I didnt speak out last game and got killed early. thats why i speak out.

You would have been killed off earlier if you had spoken out but you were busy. You were told that. You say that you act like this every game which sounds to me like you are saying you are not being suspicious and then you go and say you are trying to act suspicious. On top of this you edited your post. More and more it's looking to me like you are evil.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 09:52 AM
i edited my post cause i wanted to add that i was actually not safe at night in the potter game but then deemed it unnecessary.

i dont quite understand your sentiment here. Im suspicious cause i voted ngata?

im just saying that i want to stay suspicious as in someone that is not worth killing at night since he might be up on the chopping block. if you throw me up there its fine as long as im not lynched since it is my intention. killing me would just mean to kill off one of the better players in this game.

as for the ngata vote, it is a way to get people defend themselves, just basically waht you are doing with me. im trying to see if he was scrambling, not basing the vote on incredible logic. but do i really have to explain what im doing after that many games i have played?

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 10:03 AM
also, why do you hate me :(

Job Reborn
04-29-2012, 10:06 AM
vote : titanhope

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:08 AM
i edited my post cause i wanted to add that i was actually not safe at night in the potter game but then deemed it unnecessary.

i dont quite understand your sentiment here. Im suspicious cause i voted ngata?

im just saying that i want to stay suspicious as in someone that is not worth killing at night since he might be up on the chopping block. if you throw me up there its fine as long as im not lynched since it is my intention. killing me would just mean to kill off one of the better players in this game.

as for the ngata vote, it is a way to get people defend themselves, just basically waht you are doing with me. im trying to see if he was scrambling, not basing the vote on incredible logic. but do i really have to explain what im doing after that many games i have played?

The funny thing is I voted for you for the same reason and you are scrambling. You say you are trying to not die at night and then say you are one if the better players in this game (disagree btw haha). I am keeping my vote for you because you have become more suspicious with your defense to me.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:09 AM
vote : titanhope

Are you a lyncher?

scottyboy
04-29-2012, 10:11 AM
that was incredibly random job. may I ask why?

and ngata is being a suspicious sally!

vidae
04-29-2012, 10:12 AM
Ugh, really? I have to do this? I was trying to add a little flair to my original post instead of being boring, but here goes:

I am not evil.

You guys happy now?!

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:13 AM
Ugh, really? I have to do this? I was trying to add a little flair to my original post instead of being boring, but here goes:

I am not evil.

You guys happy now?!

I remember when doing that got I think Jvig lynched day one. Don't worry, I trust you buddy. GOW on the other hand...

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 10:21 AM
The funny thing is I voted for you for the same reason and you are scrambling. You say you are trying to not die at night and then say you are one if the better players in this game (disagree btw haha). I am keeping my vote for you because you have become more suspicious with your defense to me.
ha, if you disagree, and since you are a bad player, i assume im right.

Also, im just getting incredibly angry if people after 10000 games still call me suspicious because i vote for someone randomly day one. you said, my logic was dumb and that made me suspicious which is what i have been doing in every game i have played so far. i dont like when people critique the way i play.

scottyboy
04-29-2012, 10:22 AM
yeah gonzo, by now it's almost knowing peoples playing style, this is how renji plays. idk, he's not that suspicious. it is day one. you've gotta throw out random names

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:24 AM
ha, if you disagree, and since you are a bad player, i assume im right.

Also, im just getting incredibly angry if people after 10000 games still call me suspicious because i vote for someone randomly day one. you said, my logic was dumb and that made me suspicious which is what i have been doing in every game i have played so far. i dont like when people critique the way i play.

Getting defensive, another sign you are evil. Should we just exempt you from being seen as suspicious every game?

Job Reborn
04-29-2012, 10:24 AM
Are you a lyncher?

considering i found out woot easily the last time i played, i think I'd do this differently if i were.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 10:24 AM
Well hello guys!

ATLDirtyBirds
04-29-2012, 10:25 AM
You are all suspicious.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 10:27 AM
I am good for future reference

Job Reborn
04-29-2012, 10:28 AM
Getting defensive, another sign you are evil. Should we just exempt you from being seen as suspicious every game?

I like that you're being aggressive, but you're attacking renji for reasons that don't really make him look more likely to be evil.

Being defensive is way normal.
Random voting is way normal.

You seem to just be pushing for a lynch instead of pushin for lynching someone evil.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:29 AM
yeah gonzo, by now it's almost knowing peoples playing style, this is how renji plays. idk, he's not that suspicious. it is day one. you've gotta throw out random names

It's not just him randomly throwing out a name that got me suspicious. I an fairly sure at this point he actually is evil just the way he is defending himself and based on the way he had played past games and this one. He always plays similar but slightly different depending on whether he is good or not.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:31 AM
I like that you're being aggressive, but you're attacking renji for reasons that don't really make him look more likely to be evil.

Being defensive is way normal.
Random voting is way normal.

You seem to just be pushing for a lynch instead of pushin for lynching someone evil.

Ah yes you did have some excellent reasons for voting for TH. Your post is actually laughable.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 10:31 AM
Gonzo is suspicious.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-29-2012, 10:33 AM
vote: superpacker

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:33 AM
Gonzo is suspicious.

I guess we as a town can forget about you stepping up. Easily swayed as always. Nice.

Job Reborn
04-29-2012, 10:35 AM
Ah yes you did have some excellent reasons for voting for TH. Your post is actually laughable.

There's a difference between a random vote, and a random push for a lynch. One is a usual way to start day 1 because of the lack of information. The other one implies wanting to get rid of someone no matter the reasons.
Your post is actually laughable.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 10:36 AM
I guess we as a town can forget about you stepping up. Easily swayed as always. Nice.

No one has voted for you. What am I being swayed by?

Grizzlegom
04-29-2012, 10:37 AM
Gonzo vs. Shane has evolved into Gonzo vs. the world

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:40 AM
There's a difference between a random vote, and a random push for a lynch. One is a usual way to start day 1 because of the lack of information. The other one implies wanting to get rid of someone no matter the reasons.
Your post is actually laughable.

Usually you provide a reason when you random vote to get the guy sweating. Your vote accomplished nothing. Not a damn thing. You saying voting for someone with no reason attached and not backing it up is more valid than me getting the guy I am voting for actually taking is the real laughable thing here. Maybe you are just trying to look weak so as to not die at night though which is actually not a bad strategy.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 10:40 AM
Vote Snicho

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 10:42 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(2) ngata - (GOW, SP)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Snicho - (wooty)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 10:43 AM
It's not just him randomly throwing out a name that got me suspicious. I an fairly sure at this point he actually is evil just the way he is defending himself and based on the way he had played past games and this one. He always plays similar but slightly different depending on whether he is good or not.
you have yet to see a game with me being evil. just saying...

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:45 AM
Gonzo vs. Shane has evolved into Gonzo vs. the world

It has been this way for a few games now. Just make sure to pay attention to how things are unfolding. Job and GOW are on my radar. Still hard to tell if SP is evil or incompetent. For now I give him the benefit of the doubt.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 10:45 AM
your radar usually includes 6 people. can you give us some more people to look at?

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:49 AM
you have yet to see a game with me being evil. just saying...

I know. Pretty sure the way you are playing this is the game I am seeing how you play when you are evil now.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 10:51 AM
Because of GOW's vote we have a good discussion going. I say his vote was very successful.

Rob S
04-29-2012, 10:52 AM
ugh....my stomach is a wreck right now and I have a splitting headache. I tried to read over the thread and failed badly. I'm getting halal food to hopefully bring an end to this horribleness.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 10:53 AM
your radar usually includes 6 people. can you give us some more people to look at?

Nope. I am sure I will look more suspicious than anyone I name and not everyone has spoken.

vidae
04-29-2012, 10:54 AM
What an interesting turn of events, friends. A lively discussion is good indeed, but pointing fingers and being nasty to your fellow townspeople is not! We need to keep this civil and make a decision!

Bulldogs
04-29-2012, 10:55 AM
Civil this!

Vote: Vidae

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 10:55 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(2) ngata - (GOW, SP)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Snicho - (wooty)
(1) vidae - (Bulldogs)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 10:56 AM
Bulldogs coming out of nowhere...

Unvote snicho
Vote Bulldogs

vidae
04-29-2012, 10:56 AM
Civil this!

Vote: Vidae

I think you just wasted your vote my good man. What a shame.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 10:58 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(2) ngata - (GOW, SP)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Bulldogs - (wooty)
(1) vidae - (Bulldogs)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Bulldogs
04-29-2012, 10:58 AM
Bulldogs coming out of nowhere...

Unvote snicho
Vote Bulldogs

I'm a cat on the prowl. I just woke up and thought it would have been a humorous rebuttal to Vidae's post.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-29-2012, 11:07 AM
I voted for SuperPacker and he has given no defense. Odd, I'd say.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 11:12 AM
I voted for SuperPacker and he has given no defense. Odd, I'd say.

What do you want me to say. Im good, dont kill me.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 11:12 AM
I voted for SuperPacker and he has given no defense. Odd, I'd say.

He seems very evil to me and he us the kind of guy who telegraphs his play.

Shane P. Hallam
04-29-2012, 11:13 AM
I am here! Time to read the 6 pages!

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 11:14 AM
Ok here's what I got thus far...

caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho - I think at least two of these guys are in cahoots and likely are evil if we follow these two assumptions
1. good doesn't know who each other are
2. evil does know who each other are.

The fact that ngata has defended me in one post and voted for me in the next is highly suspicious.

Vidae - He usually is more aggressive ultimately trying to take a town leader type role early in discussion. He has yet to do so. Doesn't mean anything per se but if I were guessing I'd say he is a powerless townie.

scottyboy
04-29-2012, 11:14 AM
bulldogs post made me laugh because i just pictured him yelling it.

anyway, yeah, I don't see renji being evil, I think gonzo's a bit off on that one. not saying that gonzo is evil, but I just don't see the suspicion in renji's posts.

ngata actually seems the most suspicious out of the gate.

vote: ngata

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 11:16 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(3) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Bulldogs - (wooty)
(1) vidae - (Bulldogs)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Rob S
04-29-2012, 11:18 AM
My hangover is diminishing. I should be caught up within an hour or so here.

vidae
04-29-2012, 11:19 AM
Vidae - He usually is more aggressive ultimately trying to take a town leader type role early in discussion. He has yet to do so. Doesn't mean anything per se but if I were guessing I'd say he is a powerless townie.

If you look in the Mafia discussion thread you'll know why. I'm cleaning my den / livingroom area and moving my computer back. Once I'm done I'll be a lot more active.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-29-2012, 11:19 AM
He seems very evil to me and he us the kind of guy who telegraphs his play.

I concur. I'm on to you SP.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 11:21 AM
I'm with scotty on this one

Vote: ngata

ImBrotherCain
04-29-2012, 11:23 AM
Seeing Cabin in the Woods right now bbl but here is my vote.

Vote: Gonzo

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 11:23 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(4) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Bulldogs - (wooty)
(1) vidae - (Bulldogs)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Bulldogs
04-29-2012, 11:24 AM
Unvote: Vidae

My joke has been completed.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 11:25 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(4) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Bulldogs - (wooty)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 11:25 AM
Ok here's what I got thus far...

caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho - I think at least two of these guys are in cahoots and likely are evil if we follow these two assumptions
1. good doesn't know who each other are
2. evil does know who each other are.

The fact that ngata has defended me in one post and voted for me in the next is highly suspicious.

Vidae - He usually is more aggressive ultimately trying to take a town leader type role early in discussion. He has yet to do so. Doesn't mean anything per se but if I were guessing I'd say he is a powerless townie.

Vidae also gets killed at night all of the time. I am expecting good players to lay low this game, especially if they are powerful. I am way more worried about people who are active and seemingly not caring about their status at night.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 11:27 AM
Someone could come out and do a "Bulldogs", we need to watch out for that.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 11:27 AM
Seeing Cabin in the Woods right now bbl but here is my vote.

Vote: Gonzo

It wouldn't be a game without you voting for me. I am an easy target for the mafia to hop on to and say just kidding later if they need too. I am watching you.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 11:29 AM
Unvote Bulldogs
Vote ngata

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 11:29 AM
VOTE COUNT:

(1) APS - (raiderz)
(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(5) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth, wooty)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 11:29 AM
Someone could come out and do a "Bulldogs", we need to watch out for that.

Keep in kind he was already outed as evil and very clearly lying. We as a town should be more critical of everyone but lets not go ahead and never trust anyone who says they have powers just because Bulldogs embarrassed the town last time.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-29-2012, 11:31 AM
I must say though Gonzo, I don't like the way you're playing. Some stuff that definitely makes me question you.

Shane P. Hallam
04-29-2012, 11:31 AM
I am not evil.


Looking back at the posts, Gonzo is pulling the sam schtick, I'll keep my eye out.

Renji is pretty reckless in general, but this post
you have yet to see a game with me being evil
Gives me pause. It didn't directly address Gonzo and seems like a good way to deflect if evil. I'm not going to vote for Renji because if he is good and we lose him, it could be pretty brutal.

And honestly, broth seems a bit more suspicious to me than ngata. Not looking at your role? Come on man.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 11:33 AM
it did adress him. he said he knows how i play when im good and evil. i havent been evil since the star wars game and he didnt play in that and i was killed day 1. that was what i meant

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 11:35 AM
And honestly, broth seems a bit more suspicious to me than ngata. Not looking at your role? Come on man.

It makes sense, but i did question it. I dont see why someone would want to do that.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2012, 11:36 AM
i get it. its actually kind of smart. You play like you always do and dont show another reaction when beign accused or so. I can get behind it.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 11:37 AM
I am not evil.


Looking back at the posts, Gonzo is pulling the sam schtick, I'll keep my eye out.

Renji is pretty reckless in general, but this post

Gives me pause. It didn't directly address Gonzo and seems like a good way to deflect if evil. I'm not going to vote for Renji because if he is good and we lose him, it could be pretty brutal.

And honestly, broth seems a bit more suspicious to me than ngata. Not looking at your role? Come on man.

It appears we are both pulling the same schtick. I am thinking the good/evil alignment is reversed this time though. Let's not turn this into another bicker fest though :)

Shane P. Hallam
04-29-2012, 11:39 AM
i get it. its actually kind of smart. You play like you always do and dont show another reaction when beign accused or so. I can get behind it.

Eh, if you are mafia, you would want to look to see who is on your side. I feel like saying that is a way to get out of any culpability for voting for someone good/not voting for someone bad Day 1.

Jensen
04-29-2012, 11:39 AM
I don't think Gonzo or renji are evil. that's just how Gonzo plays the game and I'm nowhere near ready to lynch him off of that or renji based off of what both have said. Ngata's flip-flopping on broth i believe is a little suspicious though.

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 12:01 PM
I'm not hungover but I am tired as hell. Gonna sleep a bit and catch up again. I was just joking so
unvote aps

SuperMcGee
04-29-2012, 12:10 PM
Pfft. You were the only one voting sensibly.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 12:11 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(5) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth, wooty)
(1) GOW - (Dr. Gonzo)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Bulldogs
04-29-2012, 12:20 PM
Are there people we've yet to hear from yet? I'm sure there's at least 6-7 of them.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 12:21 PM
Goose
niel
GG
TH?
Todd?

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 12:22 PM
Are there people we've yet to hear from yet? I'm sure there's at least 6-7 of them.

4 by my count:

jvig
CJ
gallopingghost
niel89

I've sent a text to CJ to let him know we've started. Neil was AT the draft, so he may be traveling/recovering.

Bulldogs
04-29-2012, 12:25 PM
Goose
niel
GG
TH?
Todd?

TH and Todd both have one post. We'll see if the others BB mentioned chime in later.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 12:26 PM
Don't forget Job. He popped in, made a weak vote for TH, defended the vote very poorly, and then popped out. Way more suspicious than anyone else to me right now.

Unvote: GOW

Vote: Job

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 12:26 PM
I think it should be between ngata/broth

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 12:26 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(5) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth, wooty)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Rob S
04-29-2012, 12:27 PM
I'm all caught up. Nobody seems an obvious target to me really. Good discussion between Rejii and Gonzo though.

The only thing that kinda jumped out to me was this post:

Ok here's what I got thus far...

caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho - I think at least two of these guys are in cahoots and likely are evil if we follow these two assumptions
1. good doesn't know who each other are
2. evil does know who each other are.


IN reading the thread, I didn't see anything really that suggests anyone is in "cahoots" and this post is pretty strongly worded especially considering the claim is fairly baseless and not backed up with any evidence.

Todd Bertuzzi
04-29-2012, 12:41 PM
Ugh I don't want to vote broth based on him not looking at his role. Shane did make a good point that he could use that excuse as a cop out for his voting patterns on the first day though.

Gonzo is all over the place tossing out accusations but that's usually how he plays when he's good. I wouldn't put it passed him to try and use that play to make us think he's good since he's gone with a different approach these last few games when he was evil but I think that's a long shot.

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 12:42 PM
Hey ya'll. Catching up on my reading.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 12:45 PM
Ugh I don't want to vote broth based on him not looking at his role. Shane did make a good point that he could use that excuse as a cop out for his voting patterns on the first day though.

Gonzo is all over the place tossing out accusations but that's usually how he plays when he's good. I wouldn't put it passed him to try and use that play to make us think he's good since he's gone with a different approach these last few games when he was evil but I think that's a long shot.

Probably a good idea to not try and attempt to figure me out. I have voted for two people thus far. Would like to hear more thoughts on Job. I am fairly sure he is evil.

Todd Bertuzzi
04-29-2012, 12:46 PM
Galloping Ghost AND SuperPacker in the same game?!

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/xu/c6/0t/ugh.gif

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 12:47 PM
Galloping Ghost AND SuperPacker in the same game?!

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/xu/c6/0t/ugh.gif

Vote: Todd Bertuzzi

Rob S
04-29-2012, 12:48 PM
Job's pop-in was a little strange. I think he made some decent points afterwards though. I'm fairly confident Job isn't evil.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 12:49 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(4) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho)
(5) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth, wooty)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)
(1) Todd - (GG)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 12:50 PM
Job did nothing but use sound logic as to why Gonzo's accusations of GOW were flawed. Don't see why that would make him evil.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 12:50 PM
We are going to lynch a random guy one way or another....let's not make the same mistake twice and getting to no consensus :/

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 12:51 PM
Job did nothing but use sound logic as to why Gonzo's accusations of GOW were flawed. Don't see why that would make him evil.

He just talks to get reactions from people. The noobies would usually give it away early they are evil when accused. He's just making the Day 1 usable.

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 12:52 PM
We are going to lynch a random guy one way or another....let's not make the same mistake twice and getting to no consensus :/

Or vote for me because i talk more than most... even though you were evil that game. That's the game with the worst town i have every seen.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 12:53 PM
He just talks to get reactions from people. The noobies would usually give it away early they are evil when accused. He's just making the Day 1 usable.

Accusing people and saying you're fairly certain they are evil are two very different things.

Todd Bertuzzi
04-29-2012, 12:53 PM
Probably a good idea to not try and attempt to figure me out. I have voted for two people thus far. Would like to hear more thoughts on Job. I am fairly sure he is evil.

I don't get Job's strategy at all but throwing a lynching out on his first post with no explanation is grounds for putting himself in the spotlight from the get go. My guess is he's just a townie trying to make things exciting. I'd be very surprised if a bad guy would just throw himself under the bus like that.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 12:53 PM
I was definitly not evil

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 12:54 PM
Accusing people and saying you're fairly certain they are evil are two very different things.

He may just be saying he's certain.

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 12:54 PM
I was definitly not evil

Looks like i'm misinformed.

scottyboy
04-29-2012, 12:55 PM
We are going to lynch a random guy one way or another....let's not make the same mistake twice and getting to no consensus :/

really though. It's going to be broth or ngata at this point it seems numbers wise. let's not have this go on for a hundred million pages.

Rob S
04-29-2012, 12:59 PM
I'm more suspicious of broth than ngata. Since it seems that we have whittled it down to those two, I'll put my vote in to lynch broth.

vote: Broth

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 01:01 PM
Job did nothing but use sound logic as to why Gonzo's accusations of GOW were flawed. Don't see why that would make him evil.

I just didn't like how he said being defensive and random voting is normal and then called me out for getting GOW to talk. He voted without and explanation and if I hadn't have called him out I think he would have just not posted again. Great way for a mafia member to claim he is active and voting without actually being active or doing much of anything.
He is either evil or good with a nice power but I an leaving evil.

I don't get Job's strategy at all but throwing a lynching out on his first post with no explanation is grounds for putting himself in the spotlight from the get go. My guess is he's just a townie trying to make things exciting. I'd be very surprised if a bad guy would just throw himself under the bus like that.

I think he thought people would think that about him. Maybe it was him throwing suspicion away from fellow mafia. Either way if he is a good townie his play makes no sense.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 01:02 PM
really though. It's going to be broth or ngata at this point it seems numbers wise. let's not have this go on for a hundred million pages.

That kind of attitude is very mafia like to me, especially if neither is evil.

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 01:03 PM
How is this mafia like ?!

We don't ******* know anything. The only thing we can do is lynch a guy and hope he is a bad one. Nothing more you can do

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 01:05 PM
How is this mafia like ?!

We don't ******* know anything. The only thing we can do is lynch a guy and hope he is a bad one. Nothing more you can do

Wootster is the voice of reason..

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 01:06 PM
The 1st day is usually a crapshoot. Im still not 100% sure which way I'm leaning

vidae
04-29-2012, 01:06 PM
And there is no possibility of a no-lynch, so we're forced to pick someone.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 01:08 PM
How is this mafia like ?!

We don't ******* know anything. The only thing we can do is lynch a guy and hope he is a bad one. Nothing more you can do

Not everyone has posted, very little discussion is happening and yet you want to push through a vote now? Maybe it is you who us the mafia. To be fair to you though you always are anxious to lynch. I feel like I will be the fenikz of the game watched night one and also killed. At least you guys will know who does it.

TitanHope
04-29-2012, 01:08 PM
I didn't get that Renji's Ngata/Sephiroth accusation was all that alarming cause it didn't seem too sincere to me, and I'm not sure how he made himself a target considering it's the first day. I mainly just have no idea how Gonzo became near certain he's evil based on one post unless Gonzo has access to the evil list. But Gonzo will just say he's just playing the game his way like he's always done. It just seems like he got singled out and singled out quickly, and this led to the discussions getting stunted last game (and eventually stalling an entire day, giving the mafia an extra night phase).

Ngata seems like he made a move like ATL did when he wanted us to role reveal in the DBZ game. I think the dude was just trying to get things going, but if he is trying to out the investigator and they kill him, then it could be a serious blow to us. That ability seems like it would be incredibly useful more down the line when people are cornered.

Broth has votes just cause he won't check his character, so he doesn't even know if he's good or bad. So, like, he's either playing us, or he's not taking his role seriously. And why come out with that unless you're trying to get out of something? Personality wise, it does kind of fit Broth. Kind of get the impression he likes to show off his knowledge on things, and saying he didn't bother to check his character because, according to his expertise, it doesn't matter until after Day 1 seems right up his alley.

Job cuts me deep. And no, that is not a penetration joke. I'm good, and I'm assuming this was just to incite a non-hentai related post...which is no fun.

If I'm voting just on suspicion, then it'd probably go Broth second, cause like JBond said, claiming ignorance seems like a strategy, and Gonzo first cause he practically had his mind made up that Renji was bad based on one post, Anne Frankly, I'd like to nip the Gonzo vs somebody distraction in the bud quick. I know Caddy said that stuff messed up the mafia side (although, Gonzo was mafia in that game and we're not sure what side he's on this time around), but to be honest, it distracted me as an investigator in the DBZ game too. I investigated Shane, came forward that he was good, and he still almost got lynched because the town figured they could have an excuse to lynch one of the arguers since it would help validate me.

Vote: Dr. Gonzo

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 01:10 PM
I would just like to point out I accused GOW exactly like Shane accused me last game. Kind of funny Shane found that suspicious.

Dr. Gonzo
04-29-2012, 01:12 PM
TH, I am glad I successfully tripped you up last game. I will also once again say I did not mess up the chemistry of the mafia at all, they were being sore winners.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 01:18 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(5) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S)
(5) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth, wooty)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

GallopingGhost
04-29-2012, 01:20 PM
Every game i am suspicious of Gonzo because he is a scumbag ginger, but he pulls the same **** every single game. There is nothing more than slight suspicion for Gonzo, i don't know why you are bothering voting for him.

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 01:21 PM
Every game i am suspicious of Gonzo because he is a scumbag ginger, but he pulls the same **** every single game. There is nothing more than slight suspicion for Gonzo, i don't know why you are bothering voting for him.

Gonzo's a ginger??

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 01:23 PM
And this is gonna stall............

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 01:26 PM
I'm going Broth. Suggesting there's a lie detector is way more normal than publicly saying you don't read your role. He could very well be bad and he just doesn't know it? Bull.
Vote:broth223

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 01:26 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(6) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw)
(5) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth, wooty)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Mr. Goosemahn
04-29-2012, 01:27 PM
Yeah, I get the feeling that Broth is throwing **** around to see what sticks. Saying you didn't look at your role is very suspicious to me, feels much more like a cop out than the truth.

Vote: broth

Wootylicous
04-29-2012, 01:28 PM
Unvote Ngata
Vote Broth

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 01:28 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(8) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty)
(4) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

vidae
04-29-2012, 01:30 PM
Wait, he said he just flat out refuses to look at his role? lolwut? That makes zero sense.

vote : Broth

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 01:30 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(9) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty, vidae)
(4) ngata - (GOW, SP, scottyboy, broth)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 01:34 PM
I'm all caught up. Nobody seems an obvious target to me really. Good discussion between Rejii and Gonzo though.

The only thing that kinda jumped out to me was this post:



IN reading the thread, I didn't see anything really that suggests anyone is in "cahoots" and this post is pretty strongly worded especially considering the claim is fairly baseless and not backed up with any evidence.

Many times if you look at the first 5 people to vote for a good guy and the last 5 people to vote for a bad guy you tend to find at least 1 bad guy in those groups.

secondly I only don't look day 1 so it isn't a good way to hide voting patterns. After we lynch someone today I have to look to see if I have night actions. Since there was so much hoopla I did look I am good and aligned with the town. I was also not told who any of the good people were for what its worth.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 01:35 PM
Just went back to check on Vidae (sorry Vid) and saw this from Broth, which i must of missed.

I am not evil!

I never look at my character til after day 1. There is no point to doing it.

He says hes not evil and then says he doesnt know who he is. Makes no sense.

Unvote: Ngata
Vote: Broth

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 01:37 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(10) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty, vidae, SP)
(3) ngata - (GOW, scottyboy, broth)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

vidae
04-29-2012, 01:38 PM
Just went back to check on Vidae (sorry Vid) and saw this from Broth, which i must of missed.





He says hes not evil and then says he doesnt know who he is. Makes no sense.

Unvote: Ngata
Vote: Broth

Hah, SuperPacker shoots.. he scores!

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 01:39 PM
BTW saying something weird isn't suspicious. I do openly request to be investigated. Kill Ngata today investigate me tonight. I'll come out good.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 01:40 PM
Might as well revile my role as a doctor then while I'm at it. Because you guys are going to kill me anyway. I said I'm not evil because not saying you are not evil instantly makes people say ZOMGZZZ YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE LIE DETECTOR. but go ahead kill the doctor and screw yourselves.

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 01:42 PM
Just went back to check on Vidae (sorry Vid) and saw this from Broth, which i must of missed.





He says hes not evil and then says he doesnt know who he is. Makes no sense.

Unvote: Ngata
Vote: Broth

Wow...SP...color me impressed lol

vote broth

Rob S
04-29-2012, 01:42 PM
ugh....this doctor reveal made this interesting. He is scrambling a bit though, and SP actually made a really good observation!

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 01:43 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(11) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty, vidae, SP, raiderz)
(3) ngata - (GOW, scottyboy, broth)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 01:44 PM
Damn, stop complimenting me! I dont like it!

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 01:44 PM
I made that point one post above him. Check it out, he just copied me.

Rob S
04-29-2012, 01:44 PM
I'm floored that you noticed that, SP.

vidae
04-29-2012, 01:48 PM
Ok, so the Broth timeline is as follows:

1) I'm not evil!
2) lol I don't even look at my role
3) Don't lynch me, kill ngata tonight and investigate me! Then kill me tomorrow!
4) ****, I'm suspicious! Uhhh.. I'm a doctor!

Not really buyin that.

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 01:50 PM
Ok, so the Broth timeline is as follows:

1) I'm not evil!
2) lol I don't even look at my role
3) Don't lynch me, kill ngata tonight and investigate me! Then kill me tomorrow!
4) ****, I'm suspicious! Uhhh.. I'm a doctor!

Not really buyin that.
The first three are just awful, I don't know what to think of four.

Rob S
04-29-2012, 01:54 PM
Day one is so annoying sometimes!

scottyboy
04-29-2012, 01:57 PM
That kind of attitude is very mafia like to me, especially if neither is evil.

seriously? the DBZ game was painful and not fun for the first few days. we're not going to get anything of substance on day 1, it just doesn't happen. It's a crapshoot really

UKfan
04-29-2012, 01:58 PM
Agreed, especially as there is no way to verify that claim and a doctor is a pretty big call. I've fake role called Doctor before and had it backfire as Bulldogs also had that role, not sure if he can bring in further info on how that played out before, if he knew in that game of his fellow doctors etc.

Brothgar
04-29-2012, 01:58 PM
Ok, so the Broth timeline is as follows:

1) I'm not evil!
2) lol I don't even look at my role
3) Don't lynch me, kill ngata tonight and investigate me! Then kill me tomorrow!
4) ****, I'm suspicious! Uhhh.. I'm a doctor!

Not really buyin that.

Kinda reminds you of the last game I was in.

1) Broth says something weird
2) ZOMGZZ BROTH IS EVIL
3) Broth: I'm not evil investigate me now.
4) HE'S ASKING TO BE INVESTIGATED HE MUST BE THE HEAD HANCHO KILL HIM NOW!
5) Broth: I'm a townie guys.
6) BS Broth lets kill him
7) Broth is townie
8) its your own damn fault.

scottyboy
04-29-2012, 01:59 PM
wow, go super packer!

unvote: ngata
vote: lynch broth

SuperPacker
04-29-2012, 01:59 PM
seriously? the DBZ game was painful and not fun for the first few days. we're not going to get anything of substance on day 1, it just doesn't happen. It's a crapshoot really

Yep and thats why we should just do something now instead of taking 20 pages to decide if Broth is telling the truth or not.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 02:01 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(12) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty, vidae, SP, raiderz, scottyboy)
(2) ngata - (GOW, broth)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(2) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain, TH)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Raiderz4Life
04-29-2012, 02:01 PM
Askinv to get investigated is stupid because then you just become an easy and obvious frame target

TheBoyWonder22
04-29-2012, 02:02 PM
Agreed, especially as there is no way to verify that claim and a doctor is a pretty big call. I've fake role called Doctor before and had it backfire as Bulldogs also had that role, not sure if he can bring in further info on how that played out before, if he knew in that game of his fellow doctors etc.
The thing is I doubt a doctor would fall for that this early considering Broth is mafia. That's risky so I doubt he's called out this early regardless of role.

TitanHope
04-29-2012, 02:05 PM
Gonzo claimed protector powers last time, and Bulldogs claimed having protective powers too (along with like two or three other ones in his "best most powerful character in the game...but I can't explain my role...cause the mod might kill me...since it's so obvious cause I'm so powerful...which means you need me...lets kill that investigator!" role).

I still think his no look pass was just him being reckless, but what use is an exposed, reckless, alleged doctor? Meh.

Unvote: Dr. Gonzo
Vote: Broth

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 02:06 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(13) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty, vidae, SP, raiderz, scottyboy, TH)
(2) ngata - (GOW, broth)
(1) TitanHope - (Job)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.

Job Reborn
04-29-2012, 02:07 PM
unvote : Titanhope
vote : broth

On the basis that the TH vote was not a serious vote and that broth is acting in a way that even if he's town, he's gonna end up being a liability.

BeerBaron
04-29-2012, 02:08 PM
VOTE COUNT:

(14) Broth - (caddy, ngata, ukfan, snicho, Rob S, tbw, Goose, wooty, vidae, SP, raiderz, scottyboy, TH, job)
(2) ngata - (GOW, broth)
(1) SuperPacker - (ATL)
(1) Gonzo - (ImBrotherCain)
(1) Job - (Gonzo)

With 30 remaining, 16 votes are needed for majority.