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ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
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Hard times have fallen on the small town of draftsylvania. A recent string of murders has been chalked up to a Vampire Coven that has moved in. Apparently the legends are wrong as these Vampires can be out in the sunlight and blend in quite well as regular townfolk. The town must rid its self of this blight before there is no one left.
Grizz
SuperPacker
Bantx
Gonzo
CJ
TheBoyWonder
BeerBaron
R4L
GallopingGhost
Caddy
SuperMcGee
Vidae
jrdrylie
D-UnitCigaro (Miller) was lynched day 1
JBond (Nosferatu, Tailor) was lynched day 2
Renji (Miller) was killed night 2
Rob (Leader of the Mob, Doppelganger) was lynched day 3
Bulldogs (Dracula) was lynched day 4
ATL (Sorin Markov, Roleblocker) has been lynched day 5




With 14 alive 8 are needed for majority

Rules:

-- Participate or you will be replaced. You get one warning.

-- Do NOT PM each other. Automatic mod kill if caught breaking this rule. Please report if someone does PM you.

-- All lynch and unlynch votes must be in bold. You must unlynch before changing your vote.

-- Refrain from editing your posts.

-- There is no "no lynch" in this game.

-- Each day has a maximum time limit of 24 hours, if 24 hours are reached, the person with the most votes will be killed.

-- Set your profile to invisible mode.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Special Twist as of right now you can elect a person to lead the Mob. The first player with 8 votes will be crowned the Leader of the Mob. The Leader of the Mob's lynch vote counts as two.

The leader can be anyone Town, Vampire or even other. Upon his death he chooses another person to take his mantle.


Please make all Elections in dark green and make it in this format:

Elect: ******

Caddy
05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Ok so Bantx wasn't lying about being a miller...

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
I'm still good guys! Elect me!

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Maybe they'll vote me this time! Maybe....

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 08:14 PM
It begins again.

Vote: Shane

ATLDirtyBirds
05-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Don't be ******* ******** again. Elect the messiah. Vote ATL.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Elect before you vote numbnuts.

BeerBaron
05-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Alright, attempt #2.

Caddy
05-14-2012, 08:16 PM
Elect : Caddy!!!!!

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 08:16 PM
Elect: Rob

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:17 PM
Kate was really sad that my reign ended prematurely last time. She is ready to dance again though if I'm elected again!

http://rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Kate-Upton-GIF1.gif

BeerBaron
05-14-2012, 08:18 PM
Vote: Rob

I don't have any reason to trust/distrust him anymore than last time, so it only seems fair.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:18 PM
Current Election Standings:

Caddy (1): Caddy
Rob (1): Gonzo, BeerBaron

8 is needed to elect.

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 08:19 PM
We meet again town!

To re-vote Rob, or not to re-vote Rob, that is the question.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 08:20 PM
Elect: Rob

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:21 PM
Elect: Rob

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:21 PM
For any of you investigators out there, I happen to be a miller, so think as you may.

Caddy
05-14-2012, 08:21 PM
: (

Caddy
05-14-2012, 08:22 PM
For any of you investigators out there, I happen to be a miller, so think as you may.

I'm a miller, so unless there are two, you are lying.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:22 PM
So....both Caddy and Cigaro are millers. meh.

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 08:23 PM
Or you both are. Or you both aren't. Or you are.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:24 PM
Current Election Standings:

Caddy (1): Caddy
Rob (4): Gonzo, BeerBaron, Cigaro, jrdrylie

8 is needed to elect

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 08:24 PM
Good to see we picked up right where we left off with the role reveals!

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 08:24 PM
What kind of leader will you be Rob?

A voice for the people? Will you vote where the majority wants you to vote even though that's not your opinion?

Or...

Are you gonna vote where you wanna vote whether it matches up with the group or not?



Honestly, I don't even know which kind of leader I'd prefer, but I'd like to know your answer to that.

vidae
05-14-2012, 08:25 PM
elect : Rob

It's only fair. I didn't trust him last time but it wasn't his fault we had to restart.

Caddy
05-14-2012, 08:25 PM
Or you both are. Or you both aren't. Or you are.

I have to go to class now, but I can guarantee I am a miller. If you choose to lynch me because you don't believe me, then so be it. But unless there are two millers, Cigaro is lying.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 08:26 PM
So....both Caddy and Cigaro are millers. meh.

Yeah it's tough to sit here and take that at face value but their votes in the future will be very telling.

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Elect: Rob S

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:27 PM
What kind of leader will you be Rob?

A voice for the people? Will you vote where the majority wants you to vote even though that's not your opinion?

Or...

Are you gonna vote where you wanna vote whether it matches up with the group or not?



Honestly, I don't even know which kind of leader I'd prefer, but I'd like to know your answer to that.

It is all situational. I will do what I feel is best for the town.....usually that will mean going with my gut regardless of popular opinion. There are times when a leader has to concede to the will of his people though.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:27 PM
I'm a miller, so unless there are two, you are lying.
So you say. But it would appear there are two.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:28 PM
There could easily be 2 millers in this game.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:28 PM
Current Election Standings:

Caddy (1): Caddy
Rob (7): Gonzo, BeerBaron, Cigaro, jrdrylie, Grizz, Vidae, Bantx

8 is needed to elect

bantx
05-14-2012, 08:28 PM
vote:rob

Only to be fairzesz

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:30 PM
Yay. So what are we thinking on the Caddy/Cigaro miller clusterfuck?

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:32 PM
What kind of leader will you be Rob?

A voice for the people? Will you vote where the majority wants you to vote even though that's not your opinion?

Or...

Are you gonna vote where you wanna vote whether it matches up with the group or not?



Honestly, I don't even know which kind of leader I'd prefer, but I'd like to know your answer to that.


This is my attitude towards those ******* vampires:

http://rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Kate-Upton-GIF-0161.gif

bantx
05-14-2012, 08:32 PM
playing off the miller claim from last game I honestly only think there was only 1 miller because no one else confirmed this last game.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 08:33 PM
playing off the miller claim from last game I honestly only think there was only 1 miller because no one else confirmed this last game.

I'm sure someone else can confirm now.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 08:33 PM
They were both townies in the first game. Now they are both Millers. The odds of that happening (assuming four townies and 2 millers) 0.04%. Take that as you will.

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 08:36 PM
Why would there only be 1 Miller? Seems logical to have more than 1.

BeerBaron
05-14-2012, 08:39 PM
Yay. So what are we thinking on the Caddy/Cigaro miller clusterfuck?

I find it unlikely that both are millers. One is probably actually evil and claiming miller to avoid suspicion.

Or, outside of the box thinking, IBC added another miller to throw us for a loop when he reshuffled.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:41 PM
I feel like more than one miller would have made sense, but I don't have the experience some of you do have. If we are thinking that one of them is evil, then I lean towards Cigaro.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:41 PM
One more vote before Rob is elected.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:41 PM
I feel like more than one miller would have made sense, but I don't have the experience some of you do have. If we are thinking that one of them is evil, then I lean towards Cigaro.

Por que???

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:42 PM
Unelect: Rob

You bastard.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:42 PM
Current Election Standings:

Caddy (1): Caddy
Rob (6): Gonzo, BeerBaron, jrdrylie, Grizz, Vidae, Bantx

8 is needed to elect

bantx
05-14-2012, 08:43 PM
Why would there only be 1 Miller? Seems logical to have more than 1.

defending a mellow fellow while eating some jello

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 08:45 PM
Unelect: Rob

You bastard.

So you unelect him because he is suspicious of you? You thought he was the right leader for the town five minutes ago.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:45 PM
God damnitt, IBC.....you messed up the vote count and I thought I won it when bantx voted.

lynch: IBC

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:46 PM
So you unelect him because he is suspicious of you? You thought he was the right leader for the town five minutes ago.

I simply maintained the same vote from last time. But yes, how dare he betray me!

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:47 PM
God damnitt, IBC.....you messed up the vote count and I thought I won it when bantx voted.

lynch: IBC

No you never voted for yourself there boss... Its right.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:47 PM
I have faith in the people to elect me anyway.

Back to the task at hand, I see no reason why there aren't 2 millers. If one of you is lying though, you came out after Caddy and I dont think you saw his initial post and reasoned it would be good cover and the smart play to get it out there early.

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 08:48 PM
God damnitt, IBC.....you messed up the vote count and I thought I won it when bantx voted.

lynch: IBC
Elect: Rob

I thought you already had it too.

Caddy
05-14-2012, 08:48 PM
Vote: Cigaro

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 08:48 PM
I still don't see why we are voting for Rob? I want more campaign promises and reasons. Likewise, I'd like an alternative to come out.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:48 PM
You ninja edited....it said 7 in my vote count just before bantx voted just a few seconds ago....didn't want to quote you though.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:49 PM
I have faith in the people to elect me anyway.

Back to the task at hand, I see no reason why there aren't 2 millers. If one of you is lying though, you came out after Caddy and I dont think you saw his initial post and reasoned it would be good cover and the smart play to get it out there early.

I saw his post, which is why I figured I might as well out myself now. Waiting until I was investigated would doom me if not.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Elect: Rob

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 08:50 PM
Rob has been elected Leader of the Mob!




Again...

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 08:50 PM
I still don't see why we are voting for Rob? I want more campaign promises and reasons. Likewise, I'd like an alternative to come out.
Campaign promises would be nice. I think Rob is an up and up fellow who would be open to that even after being elected though.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 08:51 PM
Vote: Cigaro

http://i.imgur.com/7PnjW.gif

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:51 PM
What would you like me to promise other than my unwavering loyalty to the town?

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 08:53 PM
What would you like me to promise other than my unwavering loyalty to the town?

I think an intriguing promise would be a specific number of vampires rooted out on your end or we lynch you.

This would force a good town leader to be very proactive while if he IS evil, he will have to give up his friends to keep our support.

vidae
05-14-2012, 08:53 PM
Just fyi, my cable is out so I'm posting from my phone which blows but I should be semi active.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 08:55 PM
I think an intriguing promise would be a specific number of vampires rooted out on your end or we lynch you.

This would force a good town leader to be very proactive while if he IS evil, he will have to give up his friends to keep our support.

Well, lynching me would not help the town as I am good so that's a stupid ass promise for me to make. If you are not happy with my performance, then go ahead and lynch me, but I'm not going to voluntarily make my final act (if deemed an unsuccessful leader) detrimental to the town.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Well, lynching me would not help the town as I am good so that's a stupid ass promise for me to make. If you are not happy with my performance, then go ahead and lynch me, but I'm not going to voluntarily make my final act (if deemed an unsuccessful leader) detrimental to the town.

Heh, alright.

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Well, lynching me would not help the town as I am good so that's a stupid ass promise for me to make. If you are not happy with my performance, then go ahead and lynch me, but I'm not going to voluntarily make my final act (if deemed an unsuccessful leader) detrimental to the town.
I agree that lynching you would be bad. But perhaps stepping down and opening up a new election wouldn't be as bad.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 08:59 PM
I agree that lynching you would be bad. But perhaps stepping down and opening up a new election wouldn't be as bad.

Is that even an option? I'd doubt it.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 09:01 PM
I wanted to wait until the leader was elected for this.

I was a miller last game, so unless whoever else claimed to be a miller last game was lying, there are likely two (or more) millers. Now are Caddy and Cigaro both telling the truth? I don't know. I can only say that I believe there are two millers in this game.

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 09:01 PM
Is that even an option? I'd doubt it.
I don't see why not. If an impeach is an option, I would guess that voluntarily stepping down would also be an option.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:01 PM
I agree that lynching you would be bad. But perhaps stepping down and opening up a new election wouldn't be as bad.

If that's allowed then I would be fine with that.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:02 PM
I don't see why not. If an impeach is an option, I would guess that voluntarily stepping down would also be an option.

Impeach isn't an option.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:02 PM
I wanted to wait until the leader was elected for this.

I was a miller last game, so unless whoever else claimed to be a miller last game was lying, there are likely two (or more) millers. Now are Caddy and Cigaro both telling the truth? I don't know. I can only say that I believe there are two millers in this game.

Unless you are evil this game and are trying to save Cigaro.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 09:03 PM
I don't see why not. If an impeach is an option, I would guess that voluntarily stepping down would also be an option.

The only way you can impeach is by lynching him. He then chooses his successor as the 2nd post in the thread says

Caddy
05-14-2012, 09:03 PM
I wanted to wait until the leader was elected for this.

I was a miller last game, so unless whoever else claimed to be a miller last game was lying, there are likely two (or more) millers. Now are Caddy and Cigaro both telling the truth? I don't know. I can only say that I believe there are two millers in this game.

Unless a third comes out, he is telling the truth


Unvote Cigaro

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 09:05 PM
Unless you are evil this game and are trying to save Cigaro.

Or perhaps you're evil and using your influence as mob leader to see which good guy you can get the town to go after.

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 09:07 PM
The only way you can impeach is by lynching him. He then chooses his successor as the 2nd post in the thread says
OK. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know lynching and impeaching was one in the same as that isn't mentioned in the 2nd post of the thread.

I just remember you saying "To impeach thou must kill my son." in the original Vampire thread. So I thought it was an option.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Unless you are evil this game and are trying to save Cigaro.

Well, that certainly is a possibility. It's not the truth. But that's the type of deep thinking and deduction I want in my Mob Leader.

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Alright two games and he still hasn't talked, calling him out again:

Lynch: CJ

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Unelect Rob

Elect: Caddy

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Or perhaps you're evil and using your influence as mob leader to see which good guy you can get the town to go after.

Nope. I even said earlier that I think there are probably 2 millers. You're getting a bit testy....just throwing out an observation.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Unelect Rob

Elect: Caddy

A little late on that one, lol.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 09:10 PM
OK. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know lynching and impeaching was one in the same as that isn't mentioned in the 2nd post of the thread.

I just remember you saying "To impeach thou must kill my son." in the original Vampire thread. So I thought it was an option.

I did say that... I was bored and it seemed interesting to say it that way. I just meant he is Leader of the Mob until death.

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 09:10 PM
A little late on that one, lol.

Good point.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Nope. I even said earlier that I think there are probably 2 millers. You're getting a bit testy....just throwing out an observation.

I'm aware. I'm just stating that you've already thrown out two accusations, although not serious, of posters being evil with little to go on. I'm not saying you're gunning for either one of us, I'm just pointing out the potential mafia-logic behind it.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:13 PM
I'm aware. I'm just stating that you've already thrown out two accusations, although not serious, of posters being evil with little to go on. I'm not saying you're gunning for either one of us, I'm just pointing out the potential mafia-logic behind it.

Well, there is always little to go on Day 1. There was a potential something there.....I think part of my job is to point stuff like that out.

BeerBaron
05-14-2012, 09:25 PM
Vote: GG

Similar to the above reason for CJ. Two games, no posts and, unlike CJ, I think throwing out a vote for him will actually get him talking.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:26 PM
I was going to consider putting a vote on GG.

SuperMcGee
05-14-2012, 09:28 PM
I'm not a miller.

Alright two games and he still hasn't talked, calling him out again:

Lynch: CJ

He's gotten even older!

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Updated Vote Count:

CJ (1): Grizz
GG (1): BeerBaron

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

CJSchneider
05-14-2012, 09:37 PM
Just got in and read the 3 pages of the re-do. I will say I was a miller last game so the odds of them being more than one seems likely. I am going to go back to read the 1st vamp game to see wtf happened.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 09:38 PM
Just got in and read the 3 pages of the re-do. I will say I was a miller last game so the odds of them being more than one seems likely. I am going to go back to read the 1st vamp game to see wtf happened.

So there are three millers?

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 09:39 PM
**** all of you millers.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:40 PM
******* millers. This is one area where I can't help quite as much......anyone with more experience know how many miller would be the norm?

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 09:40 PM
**** all of you millers.

Yeah, I don't know what to believe. It seems like literally half of the game is either townie or miller.

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 09:41 PM
There could be any number. IBC likes to make people actually use their brains, lots of townies and millers will certainly cause us to think more.

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 09:44 PM
Btw guyz, I am a miller.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:45 PM
Well, right now (factoring in last game) we are looking at 5+ townies and 3+ millers. I guess that is reasonable in the grand scheme of things.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:45 PM
Btw guyz, I am a miller.

this is going to get ******* annoying.

CJSchneider
05-14-2012, 09:46 PM
OK, as per Grizz' approach in the last game to get me talking - here I am, talking.

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 09:46 PM
OK, as per Grizz' approach in the last game to get me talking - here I am, talking.

:-)

Unvote: CJ

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 09:46 PM
this is going to get ******* annoying.

Haha, only kidding. Just watch the first person to come up as evil through investigation claim to be a miller to. Ugh.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:46 PM
this is going to get ******* annoying.

Lol, Rob, do you have a list of what people have said there roles are so far?


5+ millers seems too many to me. Maybe 3-4? But that seems like a max. Someone is lying IMO.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 09:48 PM
Or maybe there are no millers and we're all just claiming it...

TheBoyWonder22
05-14-2012, 09:49 PM
I'm on the lynch GG train. He rarely contributes early and laying low is typically at least a little bit indicative of mafia. Start talking Red.
Vote: GG

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Haha, only kidding. Just watch the first person to come up as evil through investigation claim to be a miller to. Ugh.

You know they will now, lol.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Lol, Rob, do you have a list of what people have said there roles are so far?


5+ millers seems too many to me. Maybe 3-4? But that seems like a max. Someone is lying IMO.

I think just Caddy and Cigaro as Gonzo rescinded.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 09:51 PM
I'm willing to bet money one of those millers is lying. No idea which one though to be honest.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:52 PM
I think just Caddy and Cigaro as Gonzo rescinded.

Alright, then that is fine. But Gonzo is right, first person that come up evil will claim "Miller". Just wait.


I'm waiting for a bit more to make some determinations. Reshuffle really threw me off.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 09:52 PM
I think just Caddy and Cigaro as Gonzo rescinded.

CJ, bantx, and jrdylie were all millers last game, so it's likely we have at least three.

Raiderz4Life
05-14-2012, 09:55 PM
I was a miller before tje reshuffle too

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (2): BeerBaron, TBW

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:57 PM
I was a miller before tje reshuffle too

jeez, good luck in this one investigators, lol.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 09:57 PM
CJ, bantx, and jrdylie were all millers last game, so it's likely we have at least three.

I'm not ready to say with 100% certainty that bantx was a miller in the last game. He said this not long after D-Unit mentioned it and before the game was reshuffled, so he could have used that as an excuse for being evil if investigated.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 09:57 PM
4 sounds high to me. Call me crazy, but I think there is a decent chance one of the people saying they were a miller last game is mafia and covering for Cigaro/Caddy.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 09:58 PM
I'm just going to come out and say it, I thought either Caddy or Cigaro was lying because I'm a miller this game as well. With Raiderz coming out it looks like we have more millers than I expected. I wonder how many investigators we have? Maybe just one...

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 09:58 PM
4 sounds high to me. Call me crazy, but I think there is a decent chance one of the people saying they were a miller last game is mafia and covering for Cigaro/Caddy.

It seems high. Not sure that is absolutely the case for someone covering though, doesn't seem like the smartest plan. But 4 is a lot for sure.

ATLDirtyBirds
05-14-2012, 09:59 PM
Everyone in the game is a miller.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:00 PM
bleh. this sucks.

Grizzlegom
05-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Vote: Miller

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 10:01 PM
I guess this is IBC throwing a curveball at us to try and make us reason more. There are likely at least 4-5 vanilla townies as well.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 10:01 PM
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1273045_o.gif

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 10:01 PM
I'm just going to come out and say it, I thought either Caddy or Cigaro was lying because I'm a miller this game as well. With Raiderz coming out it looks like we have more millers than I expected. I wonder how many investigators we have? Maybe just one...

http://i.imgur.com/cDMEA.gif

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 10:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cDMEA.gif

How the hell was I supposed to know there was that many of us? I figured max two millers, so I was going to try to catch you two in a lie. It looks like you both might actually be telling the truth now.

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 10:05 PM
**** Bantx for starting this miller ********.

Vote: Bantx

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 10:05 PM
Okay, so Caddy, Cigaro, and Bulldogs claim to be Millers and four people proclaimed to be millers in the game last time. I definitely think people are lying. I'm not sure who, but since raiderz was last to come out it seems like he might be throwing out that he was a miller last time to cover for any of his mafia fans who might want to use that excuse later.

Vote: Lynch R4L

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:06 PM
I dont know, I think one of the millers may be where we have to start.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Okay, so Caddy, Cigaro, and Bulldogs claim to be Millers and four people proclaimed to be millers in the game last time. I definitely think people are lying. I'm not sure who, but since raiderz was last to come out it seems like he might be throwing out that he was a miller last time to cover for any of his mafia fans who might want to use that excuse later.

Vote: Lynch R4L

It's not the worst idea in the world, if R4L is bad, perhaps that means he was covering. That being said, we could have just as much of a shot if we nab one of the Millers today to do the same.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 10:07 PM
I dont know, I think one of the millers may be where we have to start.

What we have right now:

Miller last game:
CJ
R4L
Bantx
jrdylie

Miller this game:
Caddy
Cigaro
Bulldogs

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Or perhaps you're evil and using your influence as mob leader to see which good guy you can get the town to go after.

Nope. I even said earlier that I think there are probably 2 millers. You're getting a bit testy....just throwing out an observation.

I'm aware. I'm just stating that you've already thrown out two accusations, although not serious, of posters being evil with little to go on. I'm not saying you're gunning for either one of us, I'm just pointing out the potential mafia-logic behind it.

Something to think about......

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:09 PM
What we have right now:

Miller last game:
CJ
R4L
Bantx
jrdylie

Miller this game:
Caddy
Cigaro
Bulldogs

I'll add that we didnt hear from CJ and R4L regarding their status last game until this thread.

Raiderz4Life
05-14-2012, 10:09 PM
I'm just a townie in this game. But I was a miller the one before.

If lynching me gives you guys any info knock yourselves out. I don't have any ability other than deduction, so I'm an expendable member.

Shane P. Hallam
05-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Honestly, it would've been a pretty smart plan if Cigaro was evil to come out early as a miller like bantx did last time.

I'm heading to bed though. I'll be in early, no vote for now.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 10:10 PM
Something to think about......

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/14276_o.gif

Raiderz4Life
05-14-2012, 10:10 PM
I'll add that we didnt hear from CJ and R4L regarding their status last game until this thread.

I missed quite a bit because I was taking a nap.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 10:11 PM
I'll add that we didnt hear from CJ and R4L regarding their status last game until this thread.

Full disclosure, I didn't mention that I was a Miller in the previous game until this thread either.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:12 PM
I'm just a townie in this game. But I was a miller the one before.

If lynching me gives you guys any info knock yourselves out. I don't have any ability other than deduction, so I'm an expendable member.

I believe this....my PM from IBC in game 1 with the townie role used similar terminology. I mean, I suppose you could have been townie in the first and vampire now, but you're not at the top of my list.

Bulldogs
05-14-2012, 10:14 PM
I'm actually shocked there's this many of us. I was pretty positive Cigaro was lying earlier and evil but it might be plausible if none of the guys from the previous game are just bs'ing.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Not exactly sure why everyone suspects me, and no one Caddy.

vidae
05-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Forget last game.. it has no bearing on this one at all. Who cares who was a townie or miller in the last game? The roles were swapped. Keeping that kind of thinking will not help us at all, period.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 10:18 PM
Not exactly sure why everyone suspects me, and no one Caddy.

I'm not saying I'm suspicious of you. But it's probably because he said it first, almost immediately. So either he is telling the truth, or he came up with that plan as soon as the other game was closed.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:19 PM
Forget last game.. it has no bearing on this one at all. Who cares who was a townie or miller in the last game? The roles were swapped. Keeping that kind of thinking will not help us at all, period.

Well, what do you think then? Is 4 millers reasonable?

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 10:20 PM
I'm not saying I'm suspicious of you. But it's probably because he said it first, almost immediately. So either he is telling the truth, or he came up with that plan as soon as the other game was closed.

I know Caddy came out first, but the first reason Rob offered for him thinking I was more suspicious was that I hadn't seen Caddy's post yet, and came with the idea to cover for myself. So even though Rob though we both came up with same idea independently and I posted without knowledge of Caddy's post, somehow I'm more suspicious.

Me thinks there may be more to this...

CJSchneider
05-14-2012, 10:21 PM
I'll add that we didnt hear from CJ and R4L regarding their status last game until this thread.

I didn't post in the last thread either. I would hate to kill a town-alligned person and thereby hurt my chances of winning.

vidae
05-14-2012, 10:21 PM
I think 4 millers sounds like a bit much. I think the most we'd have is three to start, with two being more likely. But I don't know what IBC would or wouldn't do.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 10:22 PM
The post I was referring to;

I have faith in the people to elect me anyway.

Back to the task at hand, I see no reason why there aren't 2 millers. If one of you is lying though, you came out after Caddy and I dont think you saw his initial post and reasoned it would be good cover and the smart play to get it out there early.

Doesn't make sense to suspect me more than Caddy if he though I came up with the plan without knowing of Caddy's, which naturally brings me to question whether there's not more to why he choose me, and not Caddy.

TheBoyWonder22
05-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Well, what do you think then? Is 4 millers reasonable?
I say a person claiming miller should go down tonight. For all we know there is no miller role and the entire mafia just claimed it. Certainly something to look into.

vidae
05-14-2012, 10:24 PM
Having the entire mafia claim to be millers isn't a bad idea at all actually. I'd be on board killing one of these "millers" to get a sense of what is what.

ImBrotherCain
05-14-2012, 10:26 PM
Off to bed. Please close if we hit majority.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:27 PM
I'm betting there is at least one miller, probably more. I'm also betting one of the millers is evil.

And Cigaro, it's just the way it was written. It's tough to explain, but your post seemed more likely to be a lie....it's just a gut thing.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:28 PM
I will say that it is odd Caddy claimed miller and has since disappeared.

Cigaro
05-14-2012, 10:33 PM
I'm betting there is at least one miller, probably more. I'm also betting one of the millers is evil.

And Cigaro, it's just the way it was written. It's tough to explain, but your post seemed more likely to be a lie....it's just a gut thing.

Perhaps it is, perhaps it was worded that way because there is something more to it. It's in no way damning of anything, but I felt it was worth noting.

I will say that it is odd Caddy claimed miller and has since disappeared.

And now you start to distance yourself from Caddy...

Dr. Gonzo
05-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Vote: GG

Speak up *****.

Rob S
05-14-2012, 10:39 PM
Perhaps it is, perhaps it was worded that way because there is something more to it. It's in no way damning of anything, but I felt it was worth noting.



And now you start to distance yourself from Caddy...

This is all good stuff. I'm more than happy to answer any allegations. I can assure you that I am good. We can't be sure about anything right now....I was just letting the townspeople know what my gut told me in that moment.

D-Unit
05-14-2012, 11:11 PM
If anyone else is a Miller, they should speak up now cause nobody is gonna believe you if you come out later. Could probably clear up the current situation too.

jrdrylie
05-14-2012, 11:32 PM
I will come out and say I am not a miller. Seems like I'm one of the few apparently.

Caddy
05-14-2012, 11:33 PM
Hey guys. Did you hear I'm a miller?

Rob I disappeared because I had class/an important clerkship presentation.

vidae
05-15-2012, 12:38 AM
I am not a miller and I'm not a vampire. Omy!

Caddy
05-15-2012, 12:41 AM
I am not a miller and I'm not a vampire. Omy!

Lies.

I can see you sparkle from here!

Dr. Gonzo
05-15-2012, 12:54 AM
Sparkling is not to be tolerated around here!

bantx
05-15-2012, 12:55 AM
All these millers are going to be pretty damn tough for investigators we're likely only thing we can observe is voting patterns and take a chance at one miller off the bat? Or go for someone who hasn't spoken yet?

Gay Ork Wang
05-15-2012, 02:36 AM
im going to claim miller too. As i dont think there are three, id say lynch one of caddy, cigaro and me.

TheBoyWonder22
05-15-2012, 02:40 AM
Perhaps it is, perhaps it was worded that way because there is something more to it. It's in no way damning of anything, but I felt it was worth noting.



And now you start to distance yourself from Caddy...
This is a really good point. I may be buying into this whole scheme, but I think if we're to lynch a miller we should go with Caddy to see if Rob is to be trusted.

TheBoyWonder22
05-15-2012, 02:40 AM
im going to claim miller too. As i dont think there are three, id say lynch one of caddy, cigaro and me.
Also, I really don't like the sound of this at all.

Gay Ork Wang
05-15-2012, 02:45 AM
hey, im a miller. I really dont think there are three of us, so one of us is lying.

Caddy
05-15-2012, 02:47 AM
I thought someone else claimed too, which would make it 4?

Also screw you TBW. How does killing me let you trust Rob? He has no idea what my role is...

Gay Ork Wang
05-15-2012, 02:50 AM
a one in four shot is better than any other lynch i suppose.

TheBoyWonder22
05-15-2012, 02:51 AM
Yeah I didn't see your edit until after I quoted it. The original post sounded really sketchy. The only reason I'm saying Caddy is because it's as if Rob was targeting Cig when there was no difference between your claims. To me that's really suspicious and should at least be acknowledged. I'm going to bed. I'll check in during school.

Caddy
05-15-2012, 03:26 AM
Yeah I didn't see your edit until after I quoted it. The original post sounded really sketchy. The only reason I'm saying Caddy is because it's as if Rob was targeting Cig when there was no difference between your claims. To me that's really suspicious and should at least be acknowledged. I'm going to bed. I'll check in during school.

It was because of when Cigaro posted that he was a miller, not that he posted he was a miller. Feel free to waste a lynch on me if you truly think I am evil though. It will be a waste.

Shane P. Hallam
05-15-2012, 06:24 AM
hey, im a miller. I really dont think there are three of us, so one of us is lying.

I think we have to take our shot on one of the four of you. There COULD be four, but it seems like way too much.

Cigaro seemed to get extremely defensive when Rob tried to call, if I am going to take a shot, it will be on him.

Vote: Cigaro

Gay Ork Wang
05-15-2012, 06:28 AM
come on man
vote cigaro

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 07:11 AM
Renji being bad...

Anyway, what is the procedure for replacements? If it happens pretty quickly, I'm willing to change my vote from GG. If not, I think I'm going to keep it on him.

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 07:35 AM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (2): BeerBaron, TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
R4L (1): R4L
Cigaro (2): JBond, Renji


With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 07:38 AM
I think R4L and GoW are extremely sketchy. Raiderz claimed very late, that he was a miller last time. Now GoW comes out well after everyone else to say he is a miller. If we go after one of the four, I say GoW.

Grizzlegom
05-15-2012, 07:55 AM
come on man
vote cigaro

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WxtT24tvjYQ/0.jpg

In any event, I think coming out and claiming miller is going to be the theme of everyone that is a miller or mafia this game so I would agree that killing someone that's claiming miller makes the most sense here. After re-reading over the thread, out of all the millers, I'm honestly most suspicious of bulldogs, just my hunch.

Vote:Bulldogs

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 07:57 AM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (2): BeerBaron, TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
R4L (1): R4L
Cigaro (2): JBond, Renji
Bulldogs (1): Grizz

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

Caddy
05-15-2012, 08:09 AM
I'm off to bed. If you want to lynch me, know I won't be coming back to defend myself.

CJSchneider
05-15-2012, 08:13 AM
Lynch:Cigaro

Forgive me if my vote ends up wrong, but I'm making this vote as I am following Shane here.
Reason being is that I can appreciate his post about making the Mob leader accountable for poor performance. I can't see a vampire making that kind of statement. I therefore think Shane is good and I choose to vote with him at this juncture.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 08:15 AM
I'll put my vote out for the Miller who I think is most suspicious.

Unvote: R4L
Vote: Renji

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 08:18 AM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (2): BeerBaron, TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
Cigaro (3): JBond, Renji, CJ
Bulldogs (1): Grizz
Renji (1): jrdrylie

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 08:21 AM
Cigaro should be at 3 after CJ.

CJSchneider
05-15-2012, 08:27 AM
This is totally unrelated, but I just know I am going to accidentally post in the Psych game at least once.

Gay Ork Wang
05-15-2012, 08:28 AM
you'd think that the miller coming out last would be the least suspect especially considering i was the one coming out and saying we should kill off us first

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 08:30 AM
Well, I'd still like to lynch GG due to inactivity and him being GG, but I'm coming around to the idea of lynching one of the millers. If they are a miller, then they're no real loss to the town so it's a low-risk day 1 lynch.

If they're not a miller, then they're a liar and probably something much worse.

Unvote: GG
Vote: Cigaro

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 08:39 AM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (1): TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
Cigaro (4): JBond, Renji, CJ, BeerBaron
Bulldogs (1): Grizz
Renji (1): jrdrylie

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

Gay Ork Wang
05-15-2012, 08:44 AM
I think R4L and GoW are extremely sketchy. Raiderz claimed very late, that he was a miller last time. Now GoW comes out well after everyone else to say he is a miller. If we go after one of the four, I say GoW.
i wasnt around when the thtead opened. i vame in. claimed miller and went on wizh reading the thread. there is absolutely no reason for mafia to claim it at the point that i did

Rob S
05-15-2012, 09:04 AM
For any of you investigators out there, I happen to be a miller, so think as you may.

I just didn't like the way he connected this to investigations.....that's what gave me suspicion. It was probably just something he wrote without thinking, but it can't be ignored. Day 1 is obviously a crapshoot, but I feel like Cigaro is a pretty decent place to start lynch wise.

vote: Cigaro

Shane P. Hallam
05-15-2012, 09:07 AM
Lynch:Cigaro

Forgive me if my vote ends up wrong, but I'm making this vote as I am following Shane here.
Reason being is that I can appreciate his post about making the Mob leader accountable for poor performance. I can't see a vampire making that kind of statement. I therefore think Shane is good and I choose to vote with him at this juncture.

Thanks, I don't think it is such a bad plan for the leader as if we have a vampire as a leader it could screw us over pretty hard.

I don't have any type of hard evidence against Cigaro or any of the millers or anything, but I am with everyone else. I am pretty sure someone is lying and when people get as defensive as Cigaro got, it is generally an indication of something.

Best case scenario, we nab a vampire

Worst case scenario, we lose a miller.

For Day 1, neither is a TERRIBLE option.

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 09:07 AM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (1): TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
Cigaro (6): JBond, Renji, CJ, BeerBaron, Rob
Bulldogs (1): Grizz
Renji (1): jrdrylie

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

bantx
05-15-2012, 09:42 AM
Vote: Cigaro

Lets hope we get a baddie off the bat aiming all these millers.

CJSchneider
05-15-2012, 09:43 AM
Make sure you bold that.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 09:44 AM
Beat me to it, CJ

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 10:05 AM
Lynch me because i call out baddies like itz my job. plzzzzz guy

vidae
05-15-2012, 10:06 AM
If this is what we've decided I'll back it.

vote : Cigaro

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 10:07 AM
Lynch me because i call out baddies like itz my job. plzzzzz guy

The ****??

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 10:08 AM
Updated Vote Count:

GG (1): TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
Cigaro (9): JBond, Renji, CJ, BeerBaron, Rob, Vidae, ATL, Caddy
Bulldogs (1): Grizz
Renji (1): jrdrylie

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

ATLDirtyBirds
05-15-2012, 10:08 AM
If this is what we've decided I'll back it.

vote : Cigaro



Same here. While I'm always up for a GallopingGhost lynch, we need to work through this miller nonsense.


vote: cigaro

Caddy
05-15-2012, 10:14 AM
Vote - Cigaro

Grizzlegom
05-15-2012, 10:16 AM
It appears the town has decided, I'm still more suspicious of Bulldogs but...

Unvote: Bulldogs
Vote: Cigaro

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 10:17 AM
Final Vote Count:

GG (1): TBW
Bantx (1): Gonzo
Cigaro (11): JBond, Renji, CJ, BeerBaron, Rob, Vidae, ATL, Caddy, Grizz, Bantx
Renji (1): jrdrylie

With 20 alive 11 are needed for majority.

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 10:19 AM
Cigaro (Miller) has been lynched.

Submit your night actions ASAP!

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 03:32 PM
There were no deaths last night!

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:33 PM
Ayeeeeee, the vampires are all softies.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:33 PM
Well, just a miller lost day and night 1 one is a win.

Raiderz4Life
05-15-2012, 03:35 PM
I'll be here a lot today, I'm at work so, yep yep

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:35 PM
I want to see what information we gather during the night because i doubt that everyone came out blank... but in the odd case the baddies have 10 role blockers, my next vote is for either of the millers, preferable GOW.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:37 PM
Well, someone stopped an attack which is awesome.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 03:38 PM
No death at night? That is good news. Definitely a good start. Based on day one, I am suspicious of four people (*** Ork Wang, Vidae, Rob, and Raiderz4Life). Galloping Ghosts, Bulldogs, Shane, Cj, and Super McGee also rise a small bit of suspicion, but not to the level of the other four.

SuperPacker
05-15-2012, 03:39 PM
I have shittiest role ever. I come up as evil when investigated, wtf...

Anyway, i guess i'll have to read through the thread.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:39 PM
I have shittiest role ever. I come up as evil when investigated, wtf...

Anyway, i guess i'll have to read through the thread.

Another ******* miller! This is getting ridiculous.

Raiderz4Life
05-15-2012, 03:39 PM
I have shittiest role ever. I come up as evil when investigated, wtf...

Anyway, i guess i'll have to read through the thread.

Means you're a miller big dawg.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:40 PM
I ******* hate millers. Jesus.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 03:40 PM
I have shittiest role ever. I come up as evil when investigated, wtf...

Anyway, i guess i'll have to read through the thread.

Super Packer is the fifth Miller to come out? I'm not buying it.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:42 PM
Super Packer is the fifth Miller to come out? I'm not buying it.

Absolutely no way there are 5.

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 03:42 PM
SuperPacker is taking over for ngata

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:43 PM
Lmao... this some sick joke?? How many freakin millers can one game have? Someone has to be lying. Whoever is the roleblocker needs to not role reveal at all costs and keep doing what you are doing because it worked night one.

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 03:44 PM
Just as a recap, who have all miller claimed so far besides Cigaro?

SuperMcGee
05-15-2012, 03:46 PM
There was no death because everybody is a miller.

vidae
05-15-2012, 03:46 PM
No kills.. interesting. I wonder if someone was protected last night.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:47 PM
Caddy, Renji, BD, SP have all claimed miller I think.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 03:47 PM
Absolutely no way there are 5.

If I had to rank them in terms of likelihood of telling the truth I would say:

1. Cigaro- 100% Obviously because he was lynched and we were told he was a miller.
2. Caddy- 95% He was the first to claim it, then when Cigaro claimed he was a miller, Caddy voted for him. As soon as I confirmed that there were multiple millers, Caddy rescinded his vote.
3. SuperPacker- 60% I think he is pissed about being a Miller. I doubt he would come out right away with that after four others said it in day one.
4. Bulldogs- 45% He came out and said that we should be skeptical of anyone who claims to be a miller and then in his next post, he claims to be a miller. Just taking his advice.
5. Renji- 25% He was the last person in Day One to claim the role, and only after R4L said that there were four Millers.

vidae
05-15-2012, 03:47 PM
One of those guys is lying, I can feel it in my plums.

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:48 PM
No kills.. interesting. I wonder if someone was protected last night.

Ahhh, never thought about protectors. I hope it was a role blocker though :P .

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 03:48 PM
So Shane is definitely not on that list...interesting...

Vote: Shane

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:50 PM
Let us wait for some information by our goodie role guy dude kids.

ImBrotherCain
05-15-2012, 03:51 PM
Updated Vote Count:

JBond (1): BeerBaron

With 19 alive 10 are needed for majority

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 03:51 PM
Let us wait for some information by our goodie role guy dude kids.

I have my suspicion on good authority.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:51 PM
Let us wait for some information by our goodie role guy dude kids.

I doubt they will be coming out with info on day 2 and rightfully so.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 03:51 PM
BB, what makes you think Shane is suspicious?

SuperMcGee
05-15-2012, 03:51 PM
Maybe SP comes up as evil because he really is evil! He's trying to trick us with honesty.

I can also feel the lies in vidae's plums.

vidae
05-15-2012, 03:51 PM
So Shane is definitely not on that list...interesting...

Vote: Shane

So Shane is suspicious to you because he didn't come out and say he was a miller? Neither did you.. should we be suspicious of anyone who hasn't roleclaimed? That seems stupid.

Either you have some sort of info which is leading you to lynch Shane, or you're full of ****.

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 03:53 PM
BB, what makes you think Shane is suspicious?

Well, my power for one. I'm a Seer. I picked someone who I didn't think claimed anything yesterday to investigate, and Shane came back evil.

Granted, there are a **** ton of millers around. But the result combined with the fact that the millers have to end somewhere makes me more confident.

SuperPacker
05-15-2012, 03:54 PM
I hadn't read through the thread before i came out. Im seriously am a miller though lol.

I like your list JR apart from that i know i'm 100% miller. I'll wait for investigators if they want to come out, but right now i'm leaning towards Renji.

Raiderz4Life
05-15-2012, 03:54 PM
Well, my power for one. I'm a Seer. I picked someone who I didn't think claimed anything yesterday to investigate, and Shane came back evil.

Granted, there are a **** ton of millers around. But the result combined with the fact that the millers have to end somewhere makes me more confident.

I can get behind that
vote shane

GallopingGhost
05-15-2012, 03:55 PM
Vote: Shane

Easy enough....

vidae
05-15-2012, 03:55 PM
I have my suspicion on good authority.

Well, my power for one. I'm a Seer. I picked someone who I didn't think claimed anything yesterday to investigate, and Shane came back evil.

Granted, there are a **** ton of millers around. But the result combined with the fact that the millers have to end somewhere makes me more confident.

So you were purposely vague with the first post and then five minutes later you just come out with it and are blunt about your power? That makes.. very little sense.

SuperPacker
05-15-2012, 03:55 PM
Do we trust BB? Also, why did we have to restart?

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 03:56 PM
I debated coming out with my power for a bit since there are so many millers around, it could just be another miller result. But I also didn't want to risk dieing at night without being able to pass that along.

What I know, is that Shane came back evil and didn't miller claim yesterday.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:57 PM
I dont trust BB. I want to hear from shane though obviously....lets show some restraint, townspeople.

SuperPacker
05-15-2012, 03:57 PM
Ok i believe him.

Vote: Shane

Raiderz4Life
05-15-2012, 03:57 PM
I dont trust BB. I want to hear from shane though obviously....lets show some restraint, townspeople.

You already know, that's like asking a dog to not bark.

vidae
05-15-2012, 03:58 PM
I debated coming out with my power for a bit since there are so many millers around, it could just be another miller result. But I also didn't want to risk dieing at night without being able to pass that along.

What I know, is that Shane came back evil and didn't miller claim yesterday.

5 minutes != a bit. It was like five posts too. This doesn't jive with me at all.

Rob S
05-15-2012, 03:59 PM
You already know, that's like asking a dog to not bark.

Gentlemen, I implore you: Hold your lynch!

BeerBaron
05-15-2012, 03:59 PM
5 minutes != a bit. It was like five posts too. This doesn't jive with me at all.

I debated from when I got the result to when I asked on the last page if Shane claimed anything yesterday. I was pretty sure that he did not, but wanted to make sure no one saw it anywhere that I missed.

Bulldogs
05-15-2012, 04:00 PM
If I had to rank them in terms of likelihood of telling the truth I would say:

1. Cigaro- 100% Obviously because he was lynched and we were told he was a miller.
2. Caddy- 95% He was the first to claim it, then when Cigaro claimed he was a miller, Caddy voted for him. As soon as I confirmed that there were multiple millers, Caddy rescinded his vote.
3. SuperPacker- 60% I think he is pissed about being a Miller. I doubt he would come out right away with that after four others said it in day one.
4. Bulldogs- 45% He came out and said that we should be skeptical of anyone who claims to be a miller and then in his next post, he claims to be a miller. Just taking his advice.
5. Renji- 25% He was the last person in Day One to claim the role, and only after R4L said that there were four Millers.

To address your concern, I was suspicious of those two because I already knew I was a miller so having three in a game seemed like too many. Having five is just ridiculous.

vidae
05-15-2012, 04:00 PM
We elected Rob S so we should probably listen to him for now. I will hold my vote until we have some more information. I don't trust BB right now, so I'd rather wait.

jrdrylie
05-15-2012, 04:00 PM
I'm inclined to believe BB more than Rob or Vidae. And Shane did come off a tad bit suspicious yesterday. But I agree that we should wait a bit before we lynch Shane.

SuperPacker
05-15-2012, 04:01 PM
Gentlemen, I implore you: Hold your lynch!

Unvote: Shane

No harm in waiting for Shane.

TheBoyWonder22
05-15-2012, 04:03 PM
I'm with Vid here. I also always hate when cops come out early. Seems mighty suspect.

Bulldogs
05-15-2012, 04:03 PM
As for BBs claims it would seem like a risky move for him to lie if he was indeed evil so I'm inclined to believe, but I'd like to hear from Shane first.