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Sloopy
05-17-2012, 02:18 PM
SEC

QB: Eli Manning
RB: Arian Foster
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Mike Wallace
TE: Jason Witten
LT: Jason Peters
LG: Ben Grubbs
C: Maurkice Pouncey
RG: Evan Mathis
RT: David Stewart
DE: John Abraham
DT: Richard Seymour
DT: Geno Atkins
DE: Charles Johnson
OLB: Will Witherspoon
MLB: Patrick Willis
MLB: Jerod Mayo
OLB: Jarret Johnson
CB: Champ Bailey
CB: Jonathan Joseph
FS: Ryan Clark
SS: Eric Berry


PAC 12


QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Desean Jackson
TE: Rob Gronkowski
LT: Jordan Gross
LG: Eben Britton
C: Ryan Kalil
RG: Andy Levitre
RT: Tyron Smith
DE: Haloti Ngata
DT: Sione Pouha
DT: Paul Sloiai
DE: Andre Carter
OLB: Terrell Suggs
MLB: Brian Cushing
MLB: Nick Barnett
OLB: Clay Matthews III
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
CB: Marcus Trufant
FS: Eric Weddle
SS: Troy Polamolu


Can the speedy skill position players of the SEC stand up to the violent defense that is the PAC 12?

Can the talented SEC CBs cover the speedy PAC 12 WRs?

Can the all time great Abraham get after Aaron Rodgers and disrupt a potent passing attack?

AntoinCD
05-17-2012, 02:30 PM
This is a real good match up.

I like both offenses and I think they could score against any defense.

Neither offensive line is dominant but they are both steady.

I think this one comes down to who can create more pressure with their front 7 and I think that goes to the Pac 12 quite comfortably.

With Ngata up front and T-Sizzle and Clay coming off the edge they should constantly be in the offensive backfield.

I like the four man line of the SEC but I just don't see it causing as much damage up front.

Both secondarys are strong so it may come down to which QB has more time to throw. I'll take Rodgers against the SEC over Eli against the Pac 12

jrdrylie
05-17-2012, 02:43 PM
This one is a nice matchup.

Quarterback, running back, and offensive line are pretty much a push. The SEC has better receivers but the PAC-10 has a slightly better Tight End. Both have a great corner and pretty even safeties.

The advantage comes from the front seven. They are pretty even there but give me Suggs and Matthews over Johnson and Witherspoon any day. In a close one, PAC 12.

georgiafan
05-17-2012, 03:21 PM
I have to go with the SEC and the 5 UGA players including 3 of the 4 DL.

Sloopy
05-17-2012, 03:32 PM
I have to go with the SEC and the 5 UGA players including 3 of the 4 DL.

I'm not saying you did this, but I just want to take the time to remind everyone that you aren't just supposed to vote for who you think the best conference is or the conference your favorite team plays in.

If we did that I don't think anyone would think of the defense that the Pac12 team actually has etc. we would just go based on preconceived stereotypes

Again georgiafan, I'm not saying you did it. I'm just reminding everyone.

vidae
05-17-2012, 03:44 PM
I went with the SEC but this one was even closer than the ACC/Big10. I could have gone either way with this one though. I almost regret voting SEC already but meh.

ImBrotherCain
05-17-2012, 03:47 PM
I voted Pac 12 and as others have said it isn't by much.

Sloopy
05-17-2012, 06:07 PM
votes are a lot closer on this one than I though it would be

ChiFan24
05-17-2012, 06:49 PM
Trufant can't be the other Pac-10 corner.....off the top of my head, maybe Terrell Thomas instead? Because Wallace vs. Trufant would be an absolute raping, and enough to swing my vote in favor of the SEC.

Rosebud
05-17-2012, 06:57 PM
Eli throwing the ball to Mike Wallace :explode:

mightytitan9
05-17-2012, 07:16 PM
I think you've gotta go SEC, that run game paired with that line and WR combination would be too good to pass

21ST
05-17-2012, 07:37 PM
I feel like cam should be the qb

Rosebud
05-17-2012, 07:42 PM
I feel like cam should be the qb

Why? (10 char)

ChiFan24
05-17-2012, 08:17 PM
I feel like cam should be the qb

Ehhh maybe you should keep those feelings to yourself.

tjsunstein
05-17-2012, 08:38 PM
Went with the PAC12. I think another WR and CB need to be added for both with how the NFL is today.

XxXdragonXxX
05-17-2012, 08:45 PM
Trufant can't be the other Pac-10 corner.....off the top of my head, maybe Terrell Thomas instead? Because Wallace vs. Trufant would be an absolute raping, and enough to swing my vote in favor of the SEC.

Trufant has atleast 2, possibly 4 pac12 corners ahead of him on the depth chart on his own team...maybe if this was 2006 he could be on there.

Sloopy
05-17-2012, 09:01 PM
Trufant has atleast 2, possibly 4 pac12 corners ahead of him on the depth chart on his own team...maybe if this was 2006 he could be on there.

Hmmm, seems to be a consensus, if they do make it through to the championship I will change the roster.

Could we maybe get a vote going for who should replace him.

I myself liked Browner the best but I wasn't sure about the rest of the boards feelings on him and went with the guy at least everyone will

Also while we are on the subject, I was really tempted to go T.J. Ward over Troy, however I figured an argument could be made that with that stacked of a defense, Troy would be able to roam and do what he does best

Went with the PAC12. I think another WR and CB need to be added for both with how the NFL is today.

I will definitely take this into consideration and possibly add a WR and CB to each team for the championship game.

I'm not sure I would want to add them now as some people have already voted



I'll also throw my two cents in here:

I think that despite Trufant, the rest of the D is about as solid as it gets.

The SEC has a good line but I can't imagine that they would be able to fend off that front 7, especially if Troy was free to throw in some safety blitzes.

Foster would likely be bottled up, and the receivers might not even be able to make it down field before Eli would be on his ass.

On the other hand, I think the Pac 12 have a good enough line to give Rodgers time to make the throws he needs to and you can't discount Rodgers' mobility

Then I look at the SEC safety duo. Clark isn't a slouch but I don't think he is going to keep anyone from trying the deep ball. Berry is good but he may have to be on Gronk all day long if they even hope to contain his #s.

I had to go Pac 12 here.

WCH
05-17-2012, 09:16 PM
QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Desean Jackson
TE: Rob Gronkowski


I think I just had a footballgasm.

Rosebud
05-17-2012, 09:20 PM
Hmmm, seems to be a consensus, if they do make it through to the championship I will change the roster.

Could we maybe get a vote going for who should replace him.

I myself liked Browner the best but I wasn't sure about the rest of the boards feelings on him and went with the guy at least everyone will

Also while we are on the subject, I was really tempted to go T.J. Ward over Troy, however I figured an argument could be made that with that stacked of a defense, Troy would be able to roam and do what he does best



I will definitely take this into consideration and possibly add a WR and CB to each team for the championship game.

I'm not sure I would want to add them now as some people have already voted



I'll also throw my two cents in here:

I think that despite Trufant, the rest of the D is about as solid as it gets.

The SEC has a good line but I can't imagine that they would be able to fend off that front 7, especially if Troy was free to throw in some safety blitzes.

Foster would likely be bottled up, and the receivers might not even be able to make it down field before Eli would be on his ass.

On the other hand, I think the Pac 12 have a good enough line to give Rodgers time to make the throws he needs to and you can't discount Rodgers' mobility

Then I look at the SEC safety duo. Clark isn't a slouch but I don't think he is going to keep anyone from trying the deep ball. Berry is good but he may have to be on Gronk all day long if they even hope to contain his #s.

I had to go Pac 12 here.

Eli behind that line would have more time than he did behind the giants OL this year. *shrug* Plus Eli throwing the ball deep to Mike Wallace and Hakeem Nicks-SEC edition. Bonerific.

diabsoule
05-17-2012, 09:23 PM
Just curious why Geno Atkins is at DT over Nick Fairley, Jay Ratliff, Kyle Williams?

Maybe Joe Haden over Champ Bailey? Richard Seymour could be a backup.

Jerod Mayo over Witherspoon or Johnson?

Complex
05-17-2012, 09:25 PM
The SEC does not put out great D-Line men

mightytitan9
05-17-2012, 09:27 PM
Just curious why Geno Atkins is at DT over Nick Fairley



Jerod Mayo over Witherspoon or Johnson?

What has Fairley proved to be over Atkins?

and Mayo is on the list...

Rosebud
05-17-2012, 09:31 PM
Fairley isn't, but I'd take Kyle Williams over Richard Seymour and Haden or Webster over Champ. Charles Johnson seems like he could be upgraded on and the same goes for Clark.

JHL6719
05-17-2012, 09:32 PM
The SEC does not put out great D-Line men


Since when?

Complex
05-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Since when?

Since Geno and John Abraham are on the list.

diabsoule
05-17-2012, 10:47 PM
The SEC does not put out great D-Line men

John Henderson and Marcus Stroud would like to have a word with you behind closed doors with no cameras

mightytitan9
05-17-2012, 10:53 PM
John Henderson and Marcus Stroud would like to have a word with you behind closed doors with no cameras

I was just thinking this, a few years ago we could have had a front of Albert Haynesworth, John Henderson, Richard Seymour and Marcus Stroud.

Saints-Tigers
05-18-2012, 12:59 AM
I don't even have to look at any of these lists to know the SEC should just win this right now.

Complex
05-18-2012, 01:05 AM
I don't even have to look at any of these lists to know the SEC should just win this right now.

Except against the ACC

Sloopy
05-18-2012, 05:10 AM
I don't even have to look at any of these lists to know the SEC should just win this right now.

This is exactly the type of bias that this whole process is trying to avoid.

Just curious why Geno Atkins is at DT over Nick Fairley, Jay Ratliff, Kyle Williams?

Maybe Joe Haden over Champ Bailey? Richard Seymour could be a backup.

Jerod Mayo over Witherspoon or Johnson?

I don't really see Ratliff as a top guy in this league.

Nick Fairley may be on this list next year, for the most part I tried to avoid rookies unless there wasn't another good option or they had really made a point of it like Aldon Smith.

Kyle Williams could be on there as well, in some cases I just made judgement calls.

Joe Haden was considered as well, in some cases I went with the name sake player.

Rosebud
05-18-2012, 10:55 AM
Since Geno and John Abraham are on the list.

Geno's a beast.

Sloopy
05-18-2012, 01:11 PM
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It was a close match up, a lot closer than the Pac12 would have liked showing that "Even a god-king can bleed"

In the end the PAC 12 D was able to hold off the SEC onslaught long enough to give Aaron Rodgers the last minute drive.

Now, on to the championship